UNIST Thread

We haven't had a Phonon in a while since you and park have been drinking out of your CPUs
For some reason icey hasn't signed up, what's up with that

Signed up for what?

2nd anniversary team tournament

pc lobby up: kw is pclobby
I'll leave the lobby up when i got, buyt i can only stay for 15 min today since im so tired

might wanna post the link, yeah?

nice, I started drinking at like 8 and started watching Band of Brothers but I switched to mixed drinks after that and I'm feeling pretty good
I actually managed to land some of the new shit I've been practicing too, definitely the liquor
I already have a lobby up, join that instead since I'll be around longer

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My PS+ ran out in May, i just resubbed to it for the GBV beta. I'll be back in the PS4 lobbies again whenever i'm around, which as always depends on my unpredictable sleep schedule.

challonge.com/tournaments/signup/6pM56gPanP

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That's like a month away and I forgot what my old account was for the website.

I only plan to play for a short while today so don't be offended when I dip.

Mika doesn't crouch while holding down. she also gets no vorpal effects. please buff mika.

She leers when she crouches, it's intended.
The no vorpal trait definitely wasn't though.

>I actually managed to land some of the new shit I've been practicing too, definitely the liquor

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spoon, did you see what me and hippie were talking about after you left yesterday or were you out?

if mika crouched any further than she does now, she would low profile most standing normals.

Sign up with whatever then, I just need names to put into a randomizer.

inb4 it's discovered that mika had a vorpal trait coded all along and they just made a typo somewhere that leads to it never activating

was it something about using buffs? I saw that part but I left soon after that

you need to get in my face and not let up when you get buffs
redblade was actually talking about how this is one of phonons worst matchups the other day

i never feel like i got outplayed when i lose to phonon, is that common

What would be a good mika trait?
>236x destroys projectiles
>Extra missile
>Can combo after regular throw
I unno. That's all I think of.

I don't think anyone but Hilda can get a win without outplaying the other guy assuming basic matchup knowledge and ignoring netplay latency.

alright, ill try to next time

I get this feeling from Akatsuki.
Bad Akatsukis mash buttons the whole match and if you make a mistake they still get good damage out of it.
Good Akatsukis play in a way that it still feels like they're just mashing buttons the whole match but they convert every hit into a full combo too.

rip pc bros

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She should do more damage with her FF the higher she goes

Fully invuln 360C command grab
Maybe projectile invuln 214C
Untechable 214s

>Can combo after regular throw
that sounds awesome, I'll take that one

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sorry about the lobby lads, I was running a set earlier and I had the settings fucked up
you should come to garage gear or something so me and hippie can help you out

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>faster startup on dropkick

>236x
I mean 623x

Are you literally me?

Anyway what did you think of the beta? Seems like a day one buy for me. Box knight is just too fun

when is garage gear? i'll see if i can make the time to go

Next Saturday

I'm definitely picking it up. I was shocked to find out Ferry wasn't the character i enjoyed playing the most, A few games with the Potato made me a fan.

>Mr. RedBlade was really ugly, GG!
Nice one google.

Also hope I can get in at least 1 or 2 go arounds before I've go swimming. Lobbies are busy as can be it seems.

it also could have been the fact that I had 1 frame instead of 4 or 5 and that I've been working on the setup more in training mode
saturday the 15th. generally once you get in on phonon with buffs and a knockdown if you have her cornered at about 6b range you can just string off of that and rebeat into 2a/5a and she really can't do anything outside of guess. if you can watch the redblade/silent or go1/schoolbus sets from combo breaker.

I wish GBF was coming out sooner, or even had a release date because I want nothing more then to play more Kat.

>tfw you see an akat mash out a 2B before getting the 22B
>the Akat DPs but you mistime your punish and he gets another DP off of you
I get that he's supposed to play like he's in Blitzkampf but 22x being a DP sickens me

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i'm pretty sure i'm free then so ill try to go

Im excited for the roster. Its been confirmed it will be bigger than normal arc sys releases so ppl are speculating 18+

I feel like they missed tons of potential with Ferry's design. They could have had some kind of ghost-summon-stance system similar to Zappa but nah she's just Dhalsim with a DP and projectile mine

>Its been confirmed it will be bigger than normal arc sys releases so ppl are speculating 18+
when did this happen? last I heard it was going to be like 10 chars on release

she gets fun when you use her install, but it's rarely worth it even if you get to pretend you're phonon for a few seconds.

>623X > 623C proration becomes non-existent
>623X in general moves forward faster and farther and destroys projectiles while on the ground

Ideally her 360C would get invul too as a buff. I'd also be fine with vorpal giving her 236X head invulnerability too.

I really need to stop using ories 5b. It's really fucking me up.

That install was the most fun I had with the demo, it's a shame it seems like she has better uses for meter 90% of the time

That's a clean scan. Got any of the other pictures in such high res and clarity? I believe there was a set of images.

Man fighting games are so weird sometimes, i basically took a month off, and some of the stuff i was working on when i quit is coming out way easier than it did a month ago. I can near seamlessly do that right corner crossup now. My combos are rusty as hell though, so at least that makes sense.

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yeah i'm just going to stick with Potato Blanka unless Metera or someone like her gets in and is really fun.

Looks waifu2x'd to me

you keep telling me you're going to steal my confirms, I'm waiting. Here's your new bible:
docs.google.com/document/d/1g5whvX_sHdKcMw-PddB5a_S69hBn2S7bZ8akd2zy9wE/edit#

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So it's some kind of super-sampling filter of sorts? You might be right judging by how straight the lines are but I'd appreciate high-res scans of the whole set either way.

I figured because the text at the top left is blurred to shit. But no, the preorder bonuses still haven't been scanned.

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>run up to someone and end up in a mexican standoff
>press a button after a moment of us both blocking
>get counter hit
Is there a trick to these scenarios or am I just happening to act second?

Bummer, maybe they'll get included in Western preorder bonus incentives for UNICLR.

The faster draw (and the faster attack) usually wins out). However sometimes a trade will end up with either you or the opponent still being able to capitalize if you or they're in hit stun following the trade.

We can only hope. I'm not sure if I should be happy or sad this is the only one that got decently scanned
Everyone thinks the former, but it's really just the latter.

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man those are some really thorough notes. There's a few things in there i don't fully know what they're talking about like
>Practice 8AD 1icj2B OS
still that seems like it'll be really useful thanks. I may actually have to start labbing again to work on my combos, also that has some suggestions for other things to work on i'd never considered trying.

I think that's specifically stuff LTP is working on but 8ad 1icj2b is extremely strong
here's a new 2c side switch route that's probably not in the notes yet
twitter com/silenthooper/status/1136106504447307776?s=21

Reminder that Gordeau is a better main character than Hyde by far

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also note he plays on hitbox so a lot of those OSes are way easier on there. right now I'm working on resets and safejumps/oki.

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I hope the birthday art keeps that glowing eye.
Even if it's NEVER explained why it does that

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Because he actually is the main character in Chronicle mode.

What should I be doing in training mode so I can actually get better? I just practice some combos.

lobby has gotten pretty big so Ill take my leave there. GGs all. Its nice to have another nana around

Yeah, but Linne is a way better main heroine than Chaos.

You could practice reverse beats or stray hit conversions.

Chaos is cuter though

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GGs

Been practicing what you guys told me about yesterday, but holy fuck. Muscle memory is a bitch to deal with.

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Can't argue with that.

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I'm gonna make a second lobby. Want to get more orie matches

GGs PC lobby. I really want to stay but I shouldn't. I hope I helped ya at least somewhat Spoon.

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Darn, I feel like I was autopiloting those combos abit too much there. Especially the AA j.C >5B combo setup.

I should take more risks on the next one if I don't get preoccupied by my other thing before then.

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why the fuck is that a thing?

ggs bro

GGs!

It's never easy trying to replace what you already know.

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why is what a thing

pick one thing that gave you trouble and recreate a situation for it with dummy recordings, then figure out your options for dealing with it.
eg. say someone's overhead gives you trouble, record a blockstring with the overhead and practice blocking/punishing it, then record another blockstring or two in other slots that don't have the overhead but start similarly, and set it to random playback so you can practice then reacting to the overhead and punishing
you can do this for any ind of situation, the best players tend to be lab monsters and will just go practice bizarre obscure situations in the off changce they come up in a match

What are you hoping for in CL-R?

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well, hopefully i'll feel motivated enough to work on that stuff. I've never been a fan of OS's so practicing stuff like that in training is going to be a new experience for me.

All stages to be netplay-safe.

hyde actually having a cancel window

better
netcode

i know it's not happening but it's all i want

rollback

how do i kill wallenstein

there should be enough things there outside of OSes to keep you busy for a while. even if you don't want to learn them, keep in mind top JP/NA players use them so you should understand how they work if you want to blow them up.

Realistically, just new characters and balance updates. Maybe a new vs. theme and a new stage or two. I still think this is going to be something of a patch than a completely new title that's going to have new story/arcade.
Throw in new mission modes too

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hope he doesn't get you in a corner and kill you in two hits

Hop his grabs that don't take you from the air and get in close and jab him with A attacks to stun him and then get your combo setup.

Or predict when he jumps in so you can space out his jumping attack and counterhit into combo.

Don't stand next to him if he has meter.
Do not underestimate the rock in vorpal
Don't shield recklessly

The only thing I really hope for is that they DON'T add any half-assed system mechanics.
By the time Melty was done it had a mess of systems and gimmicks of varying importance, and UNI really felt like it consolidated all of those in a really slick way. I want it to keep that coherence and not itself become bloated with random ideas to later be refined in FB's next game/series.

alright ggs pc dudes gotta go crash now
yeah thanks for the tips from you and park gives me a some ideas on how to get better

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yo just give me 2 new characters and another `0 hours of story and Ill be mad happy

Keep an eye on his meter and don't let him get into his groove. His offense isn't scary if he never gets a chance to run it.

Get in his face and keep him in the corner. If you see a super flash, jump over him. You will always avoid both doing that since his dp hits farther out and you're in the air unable to be grabbed.

Fug

Anyone else wish assault wasn't tied to grd?

I wish cs wasn't a double tap.

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what would you put it on? CD?

I can play exactly one game. Who's gonna be the lucky gal?

nice work

thank you, i've been looking for either a sleepy phonon or something similar for a long time.

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We got someone who can use photoshop/draw now?

Looks like the Reddit mascot

that's awesome, thanks for the hard work/requesting someone to do it on my behalf

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Darn, didn't get the teleport input in time on that one haha.

Can that teleports through you dash attack be parried with 5B by the way? I assume if you time it just right you can do it but maybe the window is too small?

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i would bet half the people on pc can use photoshop

Meant to say 4B actually, whoops.

Dunno, maybe make it its own button. I'm coming from blazblue so I'm used to overdrive canceling.

I want it to be a patch

Third rate Hyde is on the way.

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round start vacant shift every time is the strat

Looking forward to it!

It has been a while since I drew anything, analog or digital. I just need to practice consistently.

what's the lo'er on those blankets

>reactions ever so slightly too slow to jump the wald whiff air attack to buffered 720x grab

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And that was my one game. Thanks for the whooping. I may not show up for a few days, but don't cry for me, my cute little kittens. I'll try to weasel a friends' wifi and return to you!

Seth arcade ending

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Best of luck in your adventure to find internet broski.

Did you see me dash right through your 66c raz?

Incidentally, I'll end up in you guys' time zone, so it might be more convenient. Anybody in Seattle-ish?

Sure did, the IWEXs have been pretty great.

did I have CS there? holy shit I got outplayed

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gg pc bros

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I told you Orie's 5B sucks compared to Kat 5B.

I can't help but notice, but where are my fellow Wag bring bros in these lobbies?

GGs.

I just do it out of habit because of Yuzu. It's hard to not press it

Damn autocorrect, I need my laptop fixed soon.

Hippie, I noticed that a lot of Hyde's optimal combos involve delays. What are some basic bitch combos I can do until I actually understand Hyde?

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GGs PS lads. Looks like my time is up but maybe I'll be back later!

Thanks for the fun fights tonight!

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Crossplay? It's not like it's going to come out on Xbox or Switch

2A > 2B > 2C > 5[C] > jB >jC > jC > 66C/5C > 214BBB is the easiest and most frequent A starter that nearly every hyde uses.
What delays are you having issues with? I'd need to know to give you some easier alternatives.

Actually, it is coming to Switch.

oh its an alt-night episode
my bad bros

GGs PS4 lobby, i'm suddenly very tired so i'm out.

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Switch will apparently be a thing

Also, Lobby 2, how many people you got? Lobby 1 thinned out

Some buffs for my main, rematches, unlikely but better netcode.

it literally got rated for PS4 and Switch...

Rip in peace. Maybe the new characters will be cool and Mika will get better

I doubt crossplay will still be a thing between Nintendo and Sony though

I keep trying to do the 2a, 5c, 4c 421a for Orie but I keep fucking doing a j5b instead.

Oh yeah, that was Hyde's day one combo. I knew I was forgetting something.

We can still do the classic potato vs spider matches if you want. I just felt like picking Hyde for the first time.

Well if Warner Bros' devs can get a kusoge like Power Rangers to have crossplay then surely it's not an impossibility.

that's what I get for trying to AA with a 17f startup move, at least I got the reset in the corner though

GGs PC lobby
Remember that Wald's fastest normal is 8 frames and you can jump 360C after the superflash

Reminder that Wald can throw out a 3C and whiff cancel it into a 360C

GGs. Thanks for the Wald games, Tank.

Should you just jump in on gord if he has meter?

Or at least im assuming its Warner bros, I could be wrong on who has the video games rights. Actually didn't bandai recently purchase the rights from Saban?

Example would be doing 2A > 2C > 5[C] > (1)6B
I seem to always whiff 6B or hit with the first hit of 6B when I want the second.
Another example would be blah blah into j[C] > 2C. End up whiffing 2C instead.

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Depends if he has vorpal or not too.

That's something I pull out every once in a million years

>that new sub
Sha you sure do love air movement.

I really wouldn't worry about doing combos that involve getting the 2nd hit of 6B and whiffing the first one.
For beginner stuff, you can stick with 6B > 214BBB > 3B > 5]C] > 214BBB. Hyde combos involving his B/C buttons that aren't 6B tend to vary greatly with distance.

how do I actually make that matchup hell for wald if I can survive round start? do I just rebeat into 4b constantly to beat out jump ins? any time I leave a slight gap you're just out of there

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I don't know what character you are talking about.
But if it's Phonon as I suspect, basically you need to be ready to stop my air approach at all times, because Wald has an awful time moving without assault.

Who are you playing

Cool. Also, I'm getting the hang of delaying 214BBB, but wanted to know if there's an easier way to know when to hit B again. Like, how do you know when to hit B again?

Man my brain can't handle doing rebeats with orie. I had enough trouble with them with Yuzu but now I can appreciate it how small her 5a/2a are. Having such a big 5a is so hard to whiff.

the skies are my home

Is atic not gonna play Orie?

He played both her and Gord yesterday.

Atic, where's the Chaos at? I thought you were gonna play some of that.

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yeah pho, I guess rebeat into 4b/214b/623b would be good options as well as delays into FF in block strings.

The sound cues usually help me the most but at this point, it's pure muscle memory for me. I'd still say there's a rhythm to it, but I'm just lacking the words to describe it

Yeah but I need to see how he plays to learn orie.

Sound cues it is then, gotta make sure I have sound effects always on now. Probably dumb to ask someone how they do it when they've played him for like a century.

Damn, I should really lab a character before trying them out.

Okay so should I play Orie with Mage and Chaos with Raz or something?

I feel like I should have just grabbed.

My mind is telling me to time the rekka presses as soon as Hyde finishes saying the line associating with each rekka input.

GGs PC Lobby. Gotta get some sleep.

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Just play whoever you want, Atic. I don't really care either way

This Pink Nanase color is nice.

Fuck this guy. Play orie. I need help learning her.

Damn, Sha is already so solid with Nanase even though it's the first time I'm seeing it. Is this the difference in someone who actually has fighting game fundamentals

I don't know who is who here.

How do I play as the smug blood guy?

But he doesn't always say the same lines. It'd be easier if he only said first, secondo, thirdo.

Man mage is so good at using the persona in neutral. I'm so afraid to even use it.

God damn having a meterless dp feels good

Sha plays Nana now? I want to see

ggs, I like the changes you've been making!

Fuggin Seth, can't tell what he's doing.

I'm guessing
Is razz
Is Icy
I'm Mage and I think you should play whoever you want.

Learn how to position puddles

GGs for now lobby 1 wanna see what I can learn by checking out Shanase in lobby 2

Ohh you can do 66c 214x.

Fuck I forgot to save the match with Atic.

Whichever set of lines he says, once you hear the correct beat of how he says them, it should work out

If you hold down 214A and 214B the puddle stays down until you let go of the button, then the rock comes out

Not pressing 6B in months is really fucking with me here. My muscle memory is so bad.

It really is summer, my room is heating up.

I can barely count the amount of times I've used 6B tonight on one hand even though I use it so much as Elt.

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Got greedy with buffs. GGs everyone, see ya.

Man why can't I be good at doing 421 as orie. It's hard to let go of 4 to do the actual dp in time.

I really wanna land that dp cs combo amigos...

Thanks, and you're welcome.

How much room in lobby 2?

In a sea of horrendously lazy edits in the community, thank you for some quality work.

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2 spots, how's 1 looking?

who was this? I really appreciate it

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Only 4 of us left

This again huh?

ggs amigos im out of here for now
see you another night, alt or otherwise

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huh?

ggs PSN lobby. Catch all of you later.

GGs pc, grats on the red square park. Fun matches.

That damn cute puppy is bullying me too hard.

ggs. How long have you been working on that Nana?

GGs

Lobby 2, merge up.

Yuzufrens, what sort of things can you get off of her B and C teleports? played some matches with the lads ytd but i only ever got like an iai poke or two out of it

How many are in lobby 1?

ggs, I really like your more patient/projectile take on linne but it's probably best to play that in small doses against phonon haha
something I feel like you should steal from dia is his use of canceling/ending 214x into just jumping dive kick/tk kuuga in pressure
I don't know if it's matchup specific but I have to call out the tk kuuga with 5b. If you call that out, divekick will crush any button I press afaik. Just another tool for the kit.

A few days. I wanted to see how it felt to play a character with a meterless dp/solid anti-air and so far I'm pretty pleased. more fun than i thought shed be

Just 3 now

Oh hey, haven't seen akward and JK in a while.

Icy's lobby just blew up so I guess the timing fit

goodnight everyone & ggs, glad I'll have a relevant phonon picture tomorrow

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I guess everyone left after the lobby blew up?

Interesting. I'd have to see how dia plays sometime but I'm almost never on at the same time as him on ps4.

Looks like everyone just hopped into lobby 1

Any PC lobby up, or is it too late for everyone?

Ggs, I think I’m too tired to play.

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In lobby 1 now

I assumed it was closed on purpose so we could all move to lobby 1

everyone left early tonight, it was 3 of us for a while and I just closed it

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>that pixel
I've been practicing adding an extra 5B into the ender in the corner too, that would've taken the round if I'd remembered it

he's been in the PC lobbies for several months now going by Kieselsghur. I'm still upset that I couldn't make the connection even though I had a hunch based on playstyle. He hoodwinked the fuck out of me...

Why are orie combos so specific what you can combo off of? I swear the 421a, 5a, 5c always drops because I didn't do it in a specific way.

You can't use the j.B > j.C > j.214A > 623A > 5A route on an A starter. I saw you kept trying that yesterday.

Because different characters combo differently

What why? That's a mission mode combo.

That's a mission mode combo off 5B/2C. Refer to my post yesterday with the starter combos for A

I need to be up early tomorrow so I'll end it when it gets back to me. Plus I desperately need something to cool me off

Man, that's so silly that one move makes the difference. Why can't they just lower the damage?
How do you even remember if you got the A starter in time to know what combo to do?

A lot of her combos go 5C > (2C) > 4C or 2C > 4C after the starter, so there's a couple moves to remember whether you initially hit with A or not. Then you can follow up into j.B or 623A or j.214B.

>How do you even remember if you got the A starter in time to know what combo to do?
Practice

It's hard enough for people to get hit with a 2/5a. I don't know how you're supposed to confirm off a c stater. Imagine if Yuzu was asked to do that for her combos.

There probably are optimal light starters that make you got 5A > 2C or 5C that you don't know about for Yuzu

She actually does have some advanced combos that doesn't work with an A starter

Yuzu works more off of counter hits rather than her normal.
No shit but they keyword is "advanced combos. Why should Orie get locked out of a combo because you did an a starter. That's just dumb.

GGs everyone

GGs
These captchas are getting incredibly annoying again.

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Literally every character can't do certain things from an A starter. That's how proration works.

GGs guys

If you aren't using 4chanX and forcing noscript captchas in {current year} then your life is going to be absolutely miserable

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Thanks for the advice again Hippie, here's to hoping that I can one day become a second rate Hydo.

I guess this doesn't apply to Yuzu

ggs everyone

If you're really stuck you can just do the 2/5C > 4C > 623A > 5A etc route after almost everything at first and then work your way into recognizing starters.

see

No, you're just being dumb again

Give me a basic Yuzu combo she can't complete because it started with an A stater. Name one and I'll concede.

Never really thought about it, but Yuzu is pretty lenient in the sense that you don't really need to change up her normal midscreen combos even with an A starter

you'll just cry "not basic enough" if he does answer you...

I'll let prove something to you but this is once again conceptual so it won't surprise me none if you fail to understand. Hit stun/proration won't allow for certain combos to be done off of Light starters.

No I fucking won't
Give me a combo
There is nothing Yuzu can't complete off an a starter. Obviously longer and more difficult combos will drop but anything basic is good enough to end with a 66b 236a bac.

>There is nothing Yuzu can't complete off an a starter.
>Obviously longer and more difficult combos will drop

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Reminder to block high against Eltnum 66C and punish with a throw or 5f move to force Razzy to stop using an unsafe move without CS and improve his game.

Yes, I'm talking about basic combos starting with an a starter. If I do 2a, 2c, 5c, j5b, j5c, 214a 421a 5a 5c. That is basic and shouldn't drop for Orie.

GGs everyone. Was fun doing all those alt games, Icy.
I'm trying man, why must muscle memory curse me in this way.

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Yeah good games man, your Hyde's fireball game is really good.

I think I'll call it a night since I have no bars with Lamp again.

ggs everyone

Oh I should mention that you should use hyde's 22a/b more in neutral. It's scary good.

Did the person who challenged me find a combo Yuzu can't finish off an A stater? Shouldn't take this long

Can I throw Yuzu out of that dodge or do I just delay my attack and let the dodge whiff?

Throw or just let them dodge and then hit them. She's basically wide open after that.

That was pretty good wall pressure Icy. Couldn't really find a way out. Maybe teleports would've helped me there.

You just didn't punish me when you could've. You should've been able to beat me,

Darn, 2 really close rounds there down to the wire hahaha. Fun times.

Hmm, so you can convert air 214 to 5C before the enemy lands with Yuzu eh? I've been wondering what your'e supposed to chain after finishing the air portion with that move.

I got damn lucky at the end there.
Getting pretty tired so that's it for me. GGs everyone

GGs m8. See ya next time!

Sai end all of your 2c's with a 2/5a if it hits you can follow up with a 66b.

Hmm, interesting. I'll have to give that a shot. Thanks for the tip!

I've been wondering how to work in 66B proper actually.

This is minus and you'll get counter hit if the opponent is expecting it

Or if the opponent is just mashing

So should I be right next to them to connect the 2/5a? Seemed to keep gettin whiffs on every attempt but then again I was spaced out abit far each time haha.

Right, I forgot. Never listen to anything I say, don't actually do it Sai. If he says it's worthless than he's right.

Well I'd like to learn a few new tricks to the character outside or practicing holds (which I'm still lacking in) so I appreciate the advice for improving my mix-up game.

Just listen to lamp. I don't know how to Yuzu anymore so what I just said isn't worth learning. Don't do it.

Yeah, I've been wondering how I begin the air portion of converting 2C > 236A actually too, like it seems I have to use a delayed move maybe or a charged move?

Guess I will buy this on PS to play with you guys. PC always dead at this time.

You don't have to take it that personally. I still rebeat into 5A whiffs, just not all the time like you were suggesting

Well It'll certainly give you more player variety if that's what you're looking for. Is it still on sale?

Ah so it is a whiff then? Guess it's just something you have to muscle memory in if you want it to work.

UNIST more like UNINSTALL

The easy version is just 236A > 9D > j.C > 66C. You don't have to delay it or anything

I think you're confused. 2C > 5A whiff is a common to reset pressure since it leaves you at -1. If the 2C actually manages to connect, you can quickly do 66B after the 5A whiff to confirm it into a combo. That being said, the window is pretty small so you have to be on your toes to react to it

I see. I guess I'll work on the easy version first then.

Ah yeah, confused me a fair amount actually haha. I appreciate the clarification.

I still can't get over how shitty it is Orie can't finish her stupid combo.

Thought I had an extra slash but I guess I wasn't pressing the right button there haha. Also need to get faster reaction out to do 2C >236A it seems.

Which combo are ya talking about?

>all those warning shots off-screen
I didn't realize Eltnum was such a nice person.

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Orie has a bug where if you don't do a combo a specific way she can't finish her combo.

Did you know Orie can hold any button and still do a dp?
So if you're wait to get out of a combo just hold a button and you can do a dp with a different one.

Hopefully they get a fix for it in UNICLR.

Yeah, doing an a starter shouldn't prevent you from finishing a combo.

Whew, took me awhile to re-adjust there hahaha.

Was thinking like how I was playing Yuzu for a moment and wanted to 4B and 4C and do 236BC hold slashes.

That's pretty interesting actually. I wonder what the ruling for that was to determine it? Is it exclusive to her?

People were saying all characters have this but I don't buy it.

Those were some flashy combos in that one. I'm definitely saving the replay.

Dang, those slashes are on point Lamp. It's getting tough to approach!

God I fucking hate that I'm not allowed to finish my combo. So fucking stupid

Dang, started to feel victory coming around there haha.

Just do 623A after 4C instead of jump canceling into j.B.

Hoping? More than 1 new character. Because being realistic that's the only thing they might actually do. The netcode and lobbies will probably never be fixed.

Were the lobbies the same in the original release (8 players sitting in a lobby)?

Finally managed to pull one out there, woo! haha

Please stop picking Nancy. I've fought nothing but nancy all night. Pick Linne or Yuzu for the love of god.

Sorry about that hahaha. I'll change it up.

Man that was an intense final round there.

Finally got the 236Bx2 into 214B to connect but couldn't get the easy part done haha. One day.

See Lamp, that's how you should be playing Yuzu. Sai did it really smart to get around my thrust ranges.

It could've been just a lucky round haha. Yuzu's 2C has really good reach too.

Congrats Sai, I pass my title as the best Yuzu onto you. Fight proudly with your new title

I'll do my best to not let you guys down as I continue to learn what I should and shouldn't do.

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Fuck off you know what I mean.
You shouldn't just stand there. It's dangerous and makes it easy to plan out an attack. What's the point in trying to help you get better and learn the match if you aren't going to take my advice?

Ah shit, you're starting to employ some tricky stuff

Yeah, it seems adding in dashing 5As to pressure was something I was missing after getting in on you.

Also, nice grab at the end there haha. Seems like you still remember Hilda combos there Icy.

GGs both of ya and thanks for playing it out this late! I'll definitely work on practicing that easy mode route you mentioned earlier Lamp.

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Good games, I think I did alright with Orie but the combos are still an issue. I'm getting better at using the thurst at the very least and the persona. So not bad for the first week of trying her out. Hopefully next week I'll be doing full combos.

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Go to sleep already.

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I mean, I've asked around plenty already. Not to mention I've played a bunch of long sets with Atic so it's not like I'm unfamiliar with the match up.

The consensus seems to be that you need to parry or dodge charged thrust. It's +0 on block and Orie has better normals than Yuzu, so my turn is basically over if I end up blocking it

But you make it too easy for orie to find her spot. You have to move and throw off the range of the charge thrust. Even the slight step back can save you instead of risking a parry.

>risking
It should be consistent, being able to react to parry. Like I said, I wasn't throwing out those 4Bs randomly.

Also Icy, I don't want to sound demeaning, but I can't take your words as fact just because you've been playing Orie for a week. If you want an example of some glaring mistakes you've been making, that 4A followup to 214X is -11 on block, and is solely used for combos

Not him but I didn't even know she had a 4A. Interesting.

I'm pressing buttons randomly when I'm in block string. I don't know what I'm doing. You on the other hand should at this point.

Let me just make this clear, you aren't the only one trying to bait out specials at fullscreen

You should be teleporting instead of baiting something you can't do reliably.

I know you can't react to teleports so I learn nothing

I have nothing to do with this. I've been playing her for 4 days. I don't know why you'd risk going for a parry when they are way safer options.

>safe
I don't think you understand how easy it is to punish a teleport in neutral. Do you think I haven't tried it against Atic? Blocking too, everytime I block charged B thrust, if I try to mash afterwards at all I'm basically guaranteed to get counter hit

I really didn't want to say this, but how can you expect me to take your advice when you can't beat him either

Not him but is it not a safe move to use teleport when you have a good idea it's coming and can punish afterward?

The dude is pretty hard to eat though for sure.

Sai right? I'm not sure if you've tried it in training mode yet, but when you do a normal B teleport, there's a bit of a delay after you reappear where you can't input any specials. If you do 421B and immediately try to 236A, the move won't come out. Unlike a blocked slash into a B teleport, there's no blockstun hindering the opponent at all.

It's so slow I'm able to consistently punish all 3 teleports with Yuzu's 5C, a 12 frame normal. It's also her third best starter for combos, so you can get an idea of just how risky it is to do neutral teleports

Good to know. Thanks for the in depth explanation. Sounds like teleports are really viable only when you are in somebody's head like Icy seems to be when he uses them.

At least he always traps me in his teleports half the time.

You're probably just not that used to it yet or don't know which buttons to press. I imagine Linne's 6C will work pretty well? Even if you get the wrong side, auto-correcting to 5C isn't a bad deal. The key is to watch for when Yuzu disappears. Immediately start mashing afterwards

Yeah, I usually just use my goto 2C and attempt to read it on something like teleport > CS and then whip it out if I can, which works about half the time I'd say.

Also, if he's doing neutral air teleports is when I just DP since that seems to be the most effective against that move (though sometimes it gets dodged). Otherwise, I'll either guess with 2C or block the follow up usually.

Now that I think about it, what you can do to practice and check ranges is set 3 training dummies to first do a neutral jump, then as soon as they land input 421X > 6C if ground or j.236A if in the air. Have the playback set to random and see if you can find any normals that cover all 3 teleports

I didn't know you could do multiple dummies, neat. I'll have to give that a go and see how it works.

Maybe I ought to explain all the stuff I do as Yuzu that I notice work particularly well on you while you're here

j.6C is basically Yuzu's low crush. It beats out lows that the opponent throws out. I tend to do this very frequently after 2C > 5A whiff because I know you and others like to mash there. This does lose against things that have a "mid-type" hitbox like 5B or 5C, but people tend to do lows since they're crouch blocking.

236B > CS opens you up I want to say practically every single time. You are stuck in blockstun for a long time when I do this, so don't mash unless you have balls of steel and are 100% confident I'm not going to try to meaty. Getting hit by 2C here is easily 3k for an unoptimized combo. In general, special > CS you have to sit back and block. Don't try challenging it or you'll get blown up

4B meaty I like to do after hitting you with my own reversal since I know people love to do revenge DPs. VO and IW(EXS) work since it's so slow it won't trigger the parry activation, but without those you can beat it by either 2A mash or simply blocking if you're unsure

In general I've noticed that you're very aggressive when it comes back to taking your turn on defense. This isn't necessarily bad because it does force me to check what frametraps work against you and what doesn't, but just be wary of going too crazy

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Video of the j.6C whiff in action

I created this video a while back with you in mind, so be proud

Cool, I appreciate all the help m8. Patience is definitely my biggest flaw I feel that puts me in the disadvantage state more than half the time so it's a hard habit to brake but I'll keep at it.

Thanks for the info on your plays and what to do and what not to do as well. I'll try my best to apply it.

Wish I could give you advice but I don't think I'm at that place yet hahaha.

Awesome, I'll definitely give this a save then and work with it. That looks like quite a nasty punish.

I'm free to suggestions. Is there anything in particular that you've noticed I fall victim to easily?

Well I suppose this is worth mentioning but before you used to use stance-dodge more on my divekicks and air kuugas and give a pretty n ice punish but now it seems you've defaulted to either getting hit, blocking or trying to anti-air with 5C with some slashes here and there.

Just something I've noticed.

Ah yeah, I noticed that too. I really need to start getting dodge into my system again

It's good to know that there's always new and old things to keep working on as we keep striving for better play. Thanks again for all the tips up til now.

Gonna sleep on it now and definitely work on the new ideas for matchup experience and also keep working on Yuzu gameplay myself too since she's been pretty fun to learn.

See ya next time!