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>It's another shitty waifu bolted onto an Atlus rerelease.
This should have been years off, but I guess 3-4 Persona spinoffs consecutively bombing sped up the process.

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It’s been 3 years since P5 came out
Golden came out 4 years after P4
At least try to understand what you’re talking about retard.

N...no it is a new game!
SMT5? What is that? lol only Persona games are good!

I mean, Atlus games in general suffer from this. It's definitely not just Persona.
>Catherine redux adds awful trap bitch to fuck up the balance of the story.
>Strange Journey adds Space Yukiko.
>DeSu2 expansion gender-bends gray-haired faggot whose name I forget.
>EO remakes with some boring story and boring bitch added.
>Comparing a release a generation later to a redux coming to literally the exact same console.
pic related

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waifus are 80% of the appeal of persona games so i don't see the issue with them re-releasing a game just cuz there's a new waifu tacked on

P5 was a ps3 game, the ps4 version is identical except for slightly bigger crowds and faster loading times and was only released because they took an eternity getting the game developed

>Sony continues to win e3 by doing nothing

DeSU 2 stuff was supposed to be on base game tho.

And Space yukiko barely affects the story unless you go do new stuff.

>Space Yukiko
That is mean. She was nowhere as awful as Yukiko.

Why is she so generic?

Have sex.

i have, it's good but not as good as atlus waifus

At least have taste then retard.

>Same console
Persona 5 was a PS3 game

Then this could have been DLC instead of a $60 rerelease with MAYBE five hours of new content.

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shut up dad you can't do shit

Don't tell me that's the new battle theme. Sounds so anemic.

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t. seething makotofag

Are those new sound effects for the menu?
Also when they did the all out battle thing it was only MC, the cat and her. Do you think you will pick her up early?

Honestly seems more and more like I should just wait for Persona 6. Probably not actually that far off.

What the fuck are you talking about? It's the furthest it could be with this new release.

Probably made a party of those three to showcase it

>Do you think you will pick her up early?
Kasumi will be introduced in the story early, but I don't think she'll awaken until right before the Casino. Morgana and Joker being the only ones there just make Kasumi seems more special.

And you base that on what exactly? 4 released a year after FES.

>SMT is grindy, trial and error, mechanics driven game with minimal plot,dialogue and style

>Persona is ez mode mechanics with plot and style, but too bloated with dialogue

Maybe Atlus should come up with a new game that gets the peanut butter in the chocolate, if you know what I mean.

>SMT is grindy
Nice meme.

because 4 to 5 was like 8 years

...And you want to guess why that is? You're so close, user.

>before they realized the power of spin off

based ''i played nocturne only and i know everything about smt'' poster

PC when, Fatlus

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>Another fire magic persona user
OH NONONO Annbros

something about her design gives me mary sue vibes

Stop being poor then faggot.
It’s not that hard to get a job.

it's a "we need to convince weebs to shell out another $60 design", as in it's trying way too hard

name one thing they all have in common

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They have nice socks

Pointed chin?

any megami tensei fans know what the demon is that kasumi is fighting or no?

A+ thighs

Please stop overusing "mary sue" but I agree. The design is a little bit safe to me. The accent between the hair and the shoes is nice but that's it.

>see guys they’re totally alike xddd
Why are Megaten fans so retarded?

zettai ryouiki

>trying way too hard
>the most simple and generic design in the game
You’re a fucking retard

I do thanks to this user

You got me. The only Megaten games I've played are Nocturne and Persona 5. This doesn't mean that Atlus shouldn't try and find a better balance, Persona is obscene in the amount of faffing about it does with dialogue and nothing in particular happening for hours at a time, while Nocturne has the opposite problem of it being an almost pure dungeon crawler with no context for what you're doing. Somewhere in the middle would be a great game.

>cats land on their feet
>they fall on their backs
Da fuck physics.

>Failing at the batting cage
>Sneaking up on Joker and trying to spook him
>Says that her body and heart are charged after she finishes eating with Joker and Morgana
I think Atlus got me this time.

If anything Annfags should be scared. Kasumi is coming to snatch up the genki girl role and whatever relevancy Ann has left in the latter 1/2 of the game

>Cinderella as a Persona
>not a thief at all, but had something stolen from her
>had her dream come true from an outside force

That has implications

>generic means low-effort
You'd be surprised.
The most generic designs are often a result of a shitton of focus testing and boardroom meetings. When you try to appease as many people as possible, the design gets whittled down to nothing.

Don't compare FeMC to those shitters. FeMC was actually a huge awesome change.

Marie and New Bitch CAN be compared to the donut steels added in the rehashes of DeSu2 and Strange Journey though.

not him but that's the point, it seems kind of contrived. nothing daring or particularly interesting about her imo, just checks off the usual boxes (bangs, pantyhose, feminine poses, awkward but cute, really intense and serious in battle)

Why are you comparing a 2016 game to a 2003 game that’s catered to different audiences?

They have. It's called Devil Summoner, but it's dead since Atlus found their cash cow in Persona.
>Wait for Persona 6
That's not happening for a long ass time, bud.
>P5R still hasn't been released
>SMTV in development
>Re:Fantasy in development hell as well
The last thing you're getting in the next 5 years will be Persona 6.

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Because Atlus went bankrupt

The issue here, is that you've only played 2 games in the series and talk as if every other entry is similar. Not being rude, but play the other games first, and then get back to us.

do you mean devil survivor? Devil Summoner is something different.

Also, SMT V and Re:Fantasy are different teams.

thanks, can't wait to see more demons in this game. Also post demons you wanna see in P5R

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Like her Persona. reminds me a bit of the designs from 1 and 2.

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i doubt p5 and p6 will be as far apart as p4 and p5, those were only as far apart as they were because atlus wanted to make a new engine, tested it with catherine, then actually started making p5 after that

wasn't p5 in development for, like, 4 to 5 years or something? based on that i wouldn't be surprised to see p6 by 2022

Because they're the same series made by the same people? Persona and SMT are the same thing, one just has more text boxes and waifus than the other.

CUTE

the EO remakes are god tier though

Honestly, the new girls aren't even an issue for me. I know how Atlus operates, so I purposely wait until the inevitable enhanced edition is released, or I pirate the game nowadays. I didn't even buy P5 to begin with, and simply watched a play through.

Nocturnefags are a mistake

>atlus wanted to make a new engine
No it was because of the earthquake making them change plans and atlus going bankrupt.

It was in development for 8 years.

Nice legs

Nope.
Come on, this is an easy one.

Yeah but you’re comparing an outdated game to something that’s more fixed and refined. Your argument would’ve made sense if you compared SMTIV to P5 but you never played anything besides Nocturne.

>atlus going bankrupt.
Atlus didnt went bankrupt, the company they were a subsidiary of was into some shady practices and shut down

No, Devil Summoner as a whole. I guess Debisama, and Soul Hackers would be a better example, though.
>More story focused than usual SMT games, but still retains a relatively driven and interesting story that doesn't drag on incredibly long
>More challenging than Persona, while still retaining SMT levels of difficulty (although this isn't saying much since no Megaten game is hard, really)
As for the second point, I know. My point was that they have a lot of titles on their line up, so rushing P6 isn't really necessary. Even then, it'll probably release around 2022/2023.
That's still quite a long time, and even then P5 was in development for such a long time because Hashino backpedalled on his main vision for the story, among other things.

>Soejima is finally getting better at making Persona's
I would have never thought. I wonder what a Persona design by Doi would look like, though?

it began development shortly after p4, but it didn't enter full development until catherine came out because they wanted to use that engine instead of p4's

they probably nailed down some early character designs, the setting, and parts of the story or something. there's nothing else they could have done if they were waiting on a new engine

it's a long time but 3 years sure is more optimistic than 6+ as you said

i just hope we don't have to wait quite as long but that depends on how much money atlus milks from the gay spinoffs i guess

Soejima isn’t doing the designs for P5R.

I could see the Atlus lineup being
>P5R
>P5 Musou
>SMTV
>Re:Fantasy
>Probably an enhanced version of SMTV
>Persona 6
For the next couple of years. I can't see P6 being delayed as much as 5 for a lot of random factors like the earthquake, and waiting to use a new engine, but at the most 2023 or so is a given.
According to what? He did the character designs. You got the source? If I'm wrong, then my bad.

What the fuck is she even supposed to be? A phantom thieves uniform is based on their perception on what a rebel is, and they all fit with their personalities quite well.
>Joker being the arch-type thief.
>Ryuji being a punk with a bat, fitting how society regards him.
>Ann being a dominatrix, fitting with the sexual pressures applied on her.
>Yusuke being a samurai, fitting with his high regard for tradition.
>Makoto being a biker, tying into her families law and order background.
>Futaba being Tron, fitting with her being a hacker.
>Haru being a highwayman, fitting with her position as a corporate noble.
Even Akechi's PT form makes sense, being a noble paladin looking dude it fits with his view that everyone is scum and that's the natural state of society, so a rebel would be someone who really was a good person.

But this new girl. What the fuck is she supposed to be? A gymnast? A magician? What kind of personality/backstory could she possibly have where that would be what she thinks a rebel is.

Anybody got that reaction image of Yusuke's eyes when he's awakening his Persona for the first time in the anime? My computer crashed recently, so I lost my images.

She's a high class girl rebelling against the tyranny of the majority.

Cendrillon according to 1:01.

>Cendrillon (Cinderella) is an opera—described as a "fairy tale"—in four acts by Jules Massenet to a French libretto by Henri Caïn based on Perrault's 1698 version of the Cinderella fairy tale.

So literally Cinderella.

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>enhanced version of SMT V
I don't know if I can deal with another Maniax, but a pseudo-sequel like Final might be good.

Why is this game's soundtrack so mediocre compared to 3 and 4's soundtracks? The final boss theme is especially shitty in 5.

Then shouldn't she be wearing either a ball gown or peasants rags

Aren't we getting new information soon?

b8

A Joker ripoff I guess, because she legit looks up to him. Or maybe something to do with going against her upbringing or something; isn't she supposed to be a "good girl" or some shit? I dunno.
If her persona is Cinderella I can't really see it being rebel related unless either
>They go with the Brothers Grimm version of Cinderella
or
>Play off the notion of fairy tales which further supports Kasumi's possible dream shenanigans

You know, why can't they just make 1 game, be happy with it, and move on to the next game? why? Why are they making every pay full price for a game they already played? Why not just make P5R from the very beginning?

Nvm I thought you were asking what her persona is.

As for her theif uniform motive I am sure it is based on black swan.

Persona 4 had a mediocre soundtrack too, honestly. I found P5 an improvement in a lot of areas, and Royal was said to get another 28 pieces of OST. I still think Meguro is lacking compared to when he worked on the PS2 era Megaten games.

it's a gymnast outfit because she is a gymnast

*Nocturne was a mistake

>Why are they fixing the game to make it more playable and less retarded?

Atlus is no stranger to enhanced re-releases on the same console. What do you think Nocturne was?

The same reason why Gamefreak doesn't make two versions of a game per generation for the mainline, before moving on to spinoffs, or the next generation immediately.
M O N E Y

>Why are they making every pay full price for a game they already played?
But they’re not. Just don’t buy it poorfag.

Except that was a long ass time ago. The original Nocturne didn't even release outside of Japan. Everyone else immediately got Nocturne Maniax. To begin with, Nocturne is a very unfinished game, and still was for Maniax because of the limited hardware specs.

It's what Atlus has always done. It sounds like the developers can never put all of their ideas in during their first run so they go back and fix up some stuff and throw in some new shit and get to make a profit at the same time.

nocturne isn't even grindy. Play literally any other game that falls under SMT dude. Most have more story than nocturne's.

should never have been unplayable and retarded in the first place

Why is being a gymnast a rebel to her? Do her parents not want her to do that or something?

Dem thighs
Fuck you Fatlus

Why are you complaining about them fixing the game?

>Why are they making every pay full price for a game they already played?
They’re not making you do anything. If you don’t want it don’t buy it.

Miyako Hotsuin was a fun character, and she like Alex at least started as an antagonist from the get-go so she isn't strictly waifu-bait.

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Good goys buy it and so it gets made

well i guess im just a stupid goy for buying the first game

Stop samefagging

These aren't even valid excuses you absolute Fatlus shills. When I tell you to cope, I expect you to fucking cope. Just admit that this company that you put on a pedestal, is a fucking joke. You don't see any other series outside of Pokemon doing this kind of shit. You want a proper JRPG experience that is complete from the get go? Play Xenoblade, Tales of Vesperia, or anything besides this mess. I'm tired of supporting Atlus.

>DeSu 2
That game didn't add a new girl, though. It's just Yamato.

That still doesn't explain the extra versions with Raidou, or Persona 3. Or Devil survivor games since they're almost exactly the same situation that Persona 5 is. This company has always made by via cheap re-releases with new content. If you don't like it then you are with the wrong company since they've been doing this since the early 90's and will never stop.

It's called milking, user.

sometimes people have to learn the hard way.

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>I'm tired of supporting Atlus.
Yeah, fuck off.

>he actually bought fatlus games in the first place

I hate nu-persona ironic weebs normalfags fanbase.

>"I'm tired of supporting hacks"
>"Y-YOU DONT LIKE IT? FUCK OFF!
Um, okay? Cope.

Yusuke's a ronin going against his master, you faggot. A samurai isn't inherently rebellious, quite the opposite.

>You don't see any other series outside of Pokemon doing this kind of shit
But you do. Anyone that isn’t a braindead normie or nintentoddler has complained about the declining quality of the games.

>You want a proper JRPG experience that is complete from the get go? Play Xenoblade, Tales of Vesperia,
Okay this is bait.

Showing off thighs

I really hope SMTV wasn't delayed for this

Stop samefagging and take your meds.

I don't know if you're new here, but saying "this is bait" to opinions you disagree with makes you sound retarded. Xenoblade 1, and Vesperia have P5 beat in a lot of categories. It didn't need an enhanced port to do it, either.

>implying they're working on it in the first place
Plus P-studio's completely different from the team on V

>You don't see any other series outside of Pokemon doing this kind of shit.
Fire Emblem, Yokai Watch, pretty much any monster catching game

You telling me XCX isn't a complete experience?

>"I really hope a game that is being developed by an entirely different studio isnt being delayed for this"
Use your head, user.

Quit guessing shit until you know for real, baka.

>Better treatment of LGBTQ characters

Isn't Lala one of the most positive portrayals of a trans man in recent memory? Unless she's just a transvestite, or really unattractive woman. I think she even won a poll for most popular non-story, non-social link character.

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I'll say it again
>he actually buys atlus games
Didn't vesperia get rereleases with new content of some sort? I never played tales of.

>Cope.
What do I have to cope with?
I'm okay with having new content and paying for them.
I support what I like, and get what I want.

It's not like I'm doing so reluctantly.

What Reddit shit is this?

>If you don't like it, this is the wrong company for you
This isn't really an excuse for what they've been doing, though.

I don't know if you're new here, but comparing P5 of all games to the other popular weeb rpgs like Xenoblade and Tales makes you sound like a seething retard.

>He says this while listing two games that got enchanted ports and is probably the first time he played Vesperia.
You are baiting.

If anyone is seething, it's you since you sound so hurt that I called out P5's quality. I don't know what it is about this game that makes people defend it to the death, and sit inside their little bubble where they pretend it's the best JRPG ever, but it needs to stop. This game was delayed for too many years to be as mediocre as it was. Just accept that there's JRPG's that have it beat in other categories, and call it a day. Imagine supporting something like this to begin with.

>Two games that got enhanced ports
Xenoblade 3DS was nothing more than a port. There's virtually no enhancements from the original. Tales of Vesperia Definitive Edition is nothing more than a remaster. You need to cope, SMTfag.

>poverty is a good thing, m'kay

>I don't know what it is about this game that makes people defend it to the death
Retards on here like you can never put up a decent complaint or argument about the game which makes it easy to respond too.
>they pretend it's the best JRPG ever
Lmao nobody has said or implied that before. I’ve seen people say “GOTY 16-17” or “Best jrpg of 16-17” but not that.
>Just accept that there's JRPG's that have it beat in other categories, and call it a day.
I don’t really care cause I’m not comparing them all like a popularity contest. Just Chill out dude.

I think it’s time to take your meds user

Nobody likes to acknowledge Lala because she doesn't look like the pretty anime girl they all think they are

Cope, Nusona shitter.

Stop samefaging.

Just look at the new Satan design for SMTIVA

>Tales of Vesperia
>proper JRPG experience that is complete from the get go

lmao

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Oh NO NO NO IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR TIME DOI BROS WHY IS KANEKO SO MUCH SUPERIOR AAARGH

It's not an excuse. It's their MO. If you don't like it, walk. It's not going to stop.

That doesn't make it a good MO, though.

This is a fucking persona, Doi.

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Great leg game. The redheads also don't make me want to jump off a fucking cliff.

It's shit like this that leads to microtransactions, lootboxes and pre-release DLCs. Fucking faggot.

Looks a million times better than SMT4 new demons

>P3:FES is okay
>P5:R is not okay
Explain this

Because it's years later and they're still using the same cheap tactics. You should have said Persona 3 Portable.

I am not saying it's good or bad. I am saying that's how they do business and if you don't like then you should stop buying it. Cheap re-releases has always been Atlus' thing. It will always be an Atlus thing until it stops working. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

Atlus has already been doing microtransactions for awhile now. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

No it doesn’t. If people never bought it then it wouldn’t be popular.
Use your brain bro.

>that sexy leotard

How did Sony allow it

Yo wassup cake FAGGOTS? I'm enjoying my new UNDERAGE wife and gonna fuck two cunnies later.

>You should have said Persona 3 Portable
>using that inferior port as an example.
Retard

how does he use his hands with those spikes in them

That strategy is not really working seeing the state of vidya, fuck there are even people against the deregulation of those practices.

meanwhile capcom has done this with every monster hunter release and people aren't making shitstorms about it at every opportunity unlike persona

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>That strategy is not really working seeing the state of vidya
Because of the normalfags and kiddies. Loot boxes are about to become illegal now I think so it’s just micro transactions.

Seething Femc tranny lover
Kys

Vesperia PS3 was an enhanced version of the 360 version with 1 new character, accessibility to one character you barely got to play as in 360, new moves, new dialogues, new bosses, new sidequest, blah blah blah.

The current version of Vesperia doesn't add content it's just that the PS3 version was untranslated for years until this year

>People sperging about Atlus making enhanced versions of games
>When the current state of the vidya market is remaking older titles instead of focusing on new installments
This isn't specifically limited to Atlus. Many companies do this, and it still isn't a good thing.

I think stuff like PS1 remakes are fine
But enhanced stuff for a game that came out like two years prior is pushing it.

because she was literally made to be the cookie cutter waifu since she's literally the only reason anyone has to buy this re-release.

True. I guess that's how they find success, though. I can't hate them for it, but I don't agree with it, either.

On the good side of things, one of Nyarly's errand boy in EP came back

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FeMC wasn't introduced in 06. She was introduced in 09, retard

Cool

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Dream palace confirmed

>she's literally the only reason anyone has to buy this re-release.
you know, besides new content with the phantom thieves, new location to travel to, that doctor social link, definite new dungeon and story and other content we dont know about.

>clearly meant to be a femc, but producers told them to make her a party member

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>Re fantasy in development hell
Do you people think Rome was built within a day or something? When they project was announced all they had was a few illustrations and tracks. It was an announcement to hire developers, too. Game is probably just getting out of pre production now.

>new stuff that only adds up to maybe 1% of the total content in the base persona 5
vs
>the one waifu character that is gonna be shilled a ton to the player and used in all the promo material

>Leotards are sexy

Maybe to you, user. If games were censored around you, they wouldn't be allowed to show a plastic bottle.

What would her Ultimate Persona likely be?

The Catherine one makes me mad, that game didn't need that shitty meme fetish

AAAAHHHHHHHHH I HATE NEW THINGS!!!!

Yo, anyone remember the text people found examining the webpage code? It was like some characters knight-Templar viewpoint or some shit.

Calling it now, that's the new girl. She starts as a party member, ends up wanting to go further than the group is comfortable with and splits off

that society as whole. everyone is nostalgic for the good ol days. even television/movies are just turning out sequels/remakes of whatever they can think of and hope it sells

Okay. Play vanilla. Why should you get mad over something OPTIONAL?

P5 is a good game that could've been better and if you know Atlus you should've known this was going to happen eventually

>"Beauty is Debotion"

???

>Persona 5 Royal is the Eternal Punishment of vanilla P5's Innocent Sin
I think we're in for kino, gentlemen. If these things are usable demons as well, that'd be even more based. It makes me wonder, will the Consultant be Nyarly, or..?

>Ultimate Persona
I'm honestly expecting it to be Sophia, from Gnosticism. It would be all too fitting since we already have Yaldabaoth, and Joker's true Persona is Satanael. Not only that, but Kasumi's mask is pretty reminiscent of Yaldy's face. On top of that, the new girls are usually tied with the main antagonist in some shape or form. Marie had a connection to Izanami, if I recall correctly. Kasumi being connected to Yaldabaoth wouldn't really be surprising.

Don't they a super duper ultimate persona after the Christmas event?

Idk

>Censorshit

sleep

Where did this meme come from, also cope

What will her fucking problem be

This meme is hilarious in its sheer stupidity.

I don't understand why people are so fascinated by the concept of a female MC. Literally who gives a damn if it helps you self insert better. The only people who actually want them are
>Faggots who want to date the male confidants
>Trannies who want to be a woman
Or both, really. Thank God it didn't happen, and you need to cope.

To make replays actually different, you schizo autist

Shes desperately looking for a dick to do the splits on

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I'd honestly be impressed if it turned out that P5R was secretly a timeloop/alternate dimension/etc sequel to P5 rather than just an expanded version.

Monster Hunter is good, though.
nu-Persona is complete surface level weeb garbage.

That would be truly based, since Eternal Punishment relatively had the same setting and areas, outside of its story changes.

Lucky for you every SMT game after Nocturne and every Persona game before 3 was "somewhere in the middle". SMTIVA was even over the line. Don't make broad statements about a series when you've only played one game.

Cope.

It's Byahkee, a lovecraft demon that was only ever in P2.
Nyarlathotep is back boys, it's time

>he's still seething.

The only bad tracks in P5 are boss battles because Meguro is a fucking hack who broke his own fucking theme to produce the same shitty slow wailing rock song he always does. P3 and P4 have the same exact problem so I don't know why you're singling P5 out for this.

because he's shitposting

Honestly his work on the PS2 megaten games isn't very good either, the only good tracks I can even recall from Nocturne for instance are remixes of Masuko's tracks from older games.
Yes that means I dislike the battle theme.

I hate buzzword spouting drooling retards but clearly we're both disappointed today.

The appeal of Persona games is the playable VN aspect. Going through dungeons was shit in 3 and 4 and even in 5 is... meh. Combat is grating and repetitive as fuck and the game's filled to the brim with filler text. If it wasn't for the mildy interesting stories (main and side stories) the games wouldn't be interesting at all.

>s-stop being poor, just buy the $60 re-release of an almost 4 y/o game goyim

Pretty sure he's a guy in drag, but if he were trans then he'd be a trans woman, not a trans man. Learning that could save your skin from getting witch hunted by LGBT maniacs someday.

RYAN

You're a retard.

He's right you know

Imagine paying $60 for a re-release with Mary Sue added plus some extra scenes if you could instead play it for free on PC.
>b-but it runs bad and has glitches!
Runs fine at 1080p with mod menu and portrait fix. Portraits have a slight seam with animations if above native, which doesn't bother me. The game runs well too, averaging around 45fps, dropping to around 20fps in certain city scenes, often during interactive cutscenes where it doesn't matter anyway.

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meh

A pole dancer
You know, because she looks way more whore than even Rise

I know what you mean. Seems like a plain Jane to me but I'm hoping she's more likable when the game releases.

That's what you think

most of this sounds pretty good desu

Nu-Sony isn't a meme, It's very real.

Based

the best kind of edgy

>ITS ANOTHER MARIE

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t. Makoto

>P3 has this issue
>Master of Shadow
>Master of Tartarus
Neither of these are rock songs, period.

Imagine being so poor that you can only afford one game console or whatever you faggots call PC.

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Yeah no, I am dumb for not buying a PS4, paying extra for online and playing at 30fps smug_anime_grin.png
Also if you genuinely like Akechi, kys. 75% of the main cast is garbage.

Master of Tartarus definitely reeks of Meguro's stupid rock ballad boner and you're totally lying to me and yourself, but I was more referring to the final boss theme which is fucking INDISTINGUISHABLE from P3 and P4's.

What does CV mean? Is that the voice actress?

Seriously, she looks like a female self-insert. Her PT getup even resembles Joker's.

Yeah. I think it means Character Voice?

>Game suffers from not developing existing party members enough
>"I know! Let's add another party member!"

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>I am dumb
I know you are. You're dumb for being a console war faggot and bragging about playing a game you don't even like.
I also can't imagine being so poor that you have to brag about owning a glorified door stopper.

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They were all unnecessary I guess?

FeMC didn't make the game worse but she did'nt make it better, Marie made the game worse, and Kasumi doesn't look like she's actually going to help fix any of the original game's issues

You're a fucking retard

>Beauty is Devotion
Sounds like what a cult leader would say.

Please explain how I'm wrong

I got all day, take your time

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at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out Haru was just deleted from the game.

Lol

Haru was just there.....

Sorry your 'praise my waifus' image didn't work the way you wanted.
They're all completely pointless characters made to justify reselling you the game, exactly the same situation as with the Catherine rerelease.

what the fuck is atlus even doing with this game
do they really think tacking on another waifu-bait character is going to get people to buy the exact same game on the exact same console? if there's more to this thing they're doing a terrible job of showing it
wouldn't a better way to cash in on p5's success be to rerelease p3 and p4 on modern consoles?

It's like someone tore off 6 firebrand heads and put it one one bahamut body.

You're going to buy it anyway user so stop whining

I'd love an accessible way to play Persona's 3 and 4. I don't feel like dusting off my ps2.

Nah I enjoy P5, I just don't like the faggot cast. P4 felt genuinely good while in 5 it just feels fake as fuck and everyone's this special "outcast" and le ebin rebellion. I like doing side confidants and the main story stuff (mostly), but all the pointless filler text and the gay ass attitude of some characters is just too much.
>my i7 and 1060 is a doorstopper
Okay.
But nah, I bet you own a $2000 rig for 1440p144hz gaymen alongside your $400 box, right?

I might pirate it if it comes to PC but I have no interest in buying a DLC for full price

>complains about playing the same exact game on the same exact console then proceeds to ask for the same exact games he played before

i haven't played p3 or p4 and im sure p5 was a lot of other people's firsts too, rereleasing them on modern consoles while interest in the series is high makes sense to me

>wouldn't a better way to cash in on p5's success be to rerelease p3 and p4 on modern consoles?
No, Atlus is too busy shilling the fuck out of P5
Don't be surprised if they release another persona arena with the p3 and p4 cast jobbing to make the phantom shits look good

Reminder you can play P3-P5 and Catherine on the PS3 and there's no issues with that whatsoever.

Buy a Ps3 then. You can get one for less than 150.

P5 is on PS4 you faggot.

>Uses Fire magic instead of Bless
Nigga...

>paying $150 for a PS3 when you can get a new PS4 for $199.

>Le ebin
You outed yourself as a redditor, way too fast Ryan. I'm sick of all the P5 haters on this board.

>i haven't played p3 or p4
Okay retard.

Naoto Shirogane is a girl
Nanako, the protagonist’s cousin dies
Tohru Adachi is the killer.


Ikutsuki is a traitor
Shinjiro dies
The main protagonist also dies
Aigis has obsession over him because she sealed Death inside of him when he was a little kid

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>p4fag, consolewar faggot and also using reddit memes
yikes.

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>150
Nigga, you being ripped off.

>nanako dies
Was it ever explained why she magically comes back to life if you dont kill Namatame?

>less than

no

You can buy a PS3 for less than 100 you faggot. No one's buying PS3s for fucking 130 or 140 bucks.
P4 is objectively the best game when it comes to 3, 4 and 5. 3 had very bad writing and a bad story too, 4's cast was good and had a great story too while 5's cast once again is shit and writing is okay at best.

I'm talking about rereleasing p3 and p4 on modern consoles, not p5 you nigger
Isn't the upgraded version of p4 stuck on vita?
Get laid, faggot

That's bullshit, the DeSu2 stuff renders the main plot and routes completely meaningless. Whatever lame excuses they made, it was obviously an afterthought. Triangulum wasn't good for anything but fanservice.
And Space Yukiko comes out at the end no matter what you do during the game and straight up tells you all the original endings turn out horribly for everybody. It's a massive retcon, and her actions don't even make sense.

You're the nigger, nig.

when you kill yourself, please don't make it inconvenient, as much as you can. Good night my friend.

>4's cast was good and had a great story too

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They should let Kitajoh do the final boss theme.
youtube.com/watch?v=P-vQrAfp7zs

explain yourself

>It's a massive retcon
But literally everyone agrees all the original endings are fucking garbage and turn out horribly.
I mena, that's the point
>law brainwashing
>world of chaos
>schwartzbelt again
They were never good endings in any way.

>Beauty in Debotion

What the fuck is a Debotion?

You have to drop AT LEAST 200 for one that's backwards compatible, why the fuck would you ever want one that isn't?

P2 is objectively the GOAT of the series. Everything since then has been fujoshit.

I think it's supposed to be "Devotion" but Fatlus can't into english.

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P3 and P4 are on the PSN store user

>since then has been fujoshit.
Put some fucking effort into your bait holy shit

She uses curse attacks right? It’s the only one available

And bless

>If you don't like it, don't buy it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
i know you want to seem smarter and above it all, but what does saying that add to the conversation at all? don't you think this guy, with all the complaining he's doing about P5R, is going to buy the game? why do you think he needs to hear that?

>Curse attacks
More than likely going to Loki. Judging by her attacks in the trailers thus far, she's probably going to be straight up STR, and GUN based.

Bless was used by Akechi

P4 is fucking garbage with tone, which 3 handles VERY well, and gameplay, which is by far the most important aspect and also the aspect where P5 fucking DESTROYS P3 and P4. The writing is also boring and repetitive for the first 90% of the game and stupid and contrived for the last 10%. Literally all of the party member dungeons boil down to the same recycled "YOU'RE NOT ME" dialogue and none of the things that happen in them have any impact on the story.

No she's probably a physical speedster

>P2
>not fujoshit
user...

He used curse as well

Joker uses curse attacks moron. She has to be light, she has fucking Cinderella as her persona.

Akechi was already light. And does Joker really count he uses Arsene for all of 30 minutes

Akechi was already curse as well, did you forget his moveset? He had both

Rip. Then she’s probably neither

Akechi is a party member for all of e hours, if that. And Arsene is Joker's canon persona, he counts. Kasumi will definitely be using light skills, and possibly almighty since she joins in what is effectively the post-game.

3 hours, what the fuck

How the fuck are they gonna handle an extra character, with probably an extra dungeon in a game that ended up being too bloated as it was? What can they possibly cut to accommodate her, the whole mementos shit in the end?

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He's coming back, you can see his leg in the trailer

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Because they're extending the calendar, it won't end in December anymore

Oh god she's a baka . It just keeps getting better and better

Why do you niggers think a Persona user can only use one specific element? If anything, she'll be Physical, Bless, and maybe some Almighty. Akechi uses Curse, Bless, and Almighty.

They're adding a third semester and she's joining during that. P5R is going to be fucking titanic.

They're extending the game even longer. get ready for casual first-time playthroughs that last over 100 hours

I hope to all fuck it's optional like the accomplice ending in P4, he deserved to die and I don't want to be fucking stuck with him any more than I have to.

>130 hours of main story

>Kasumi is actually an established character in the story before she joins your party, unlike Haru..
>There's an entire third semester, meaning multiple new months which might mean multiple new dungeons for her to get used to the PT's as a group
It's simple, really. I'm still worried, though.

Casual playthroughs of P5 are already over 100 hours.

>tfw no Kasumi in PQ2

I get that, but even if they spread out the content, the base game shit was still 80+ hours, and now adding 3 extra months, 2 extra confidants and an extra palace is gonna push the game into 100+ hours unless they cut shit
>played base game when I was a NEET and it took me over a week to finish playing almost 10+ hours a day
>now I'm a wageslave who can barely play 2 hours a day
God I'm gonna take 6 months to finish the game now

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P5's cast is almost entirely made up of anime trope archetypes while 4 had genuine characters. 3 was also like 4, but just way less interesting. Yukari was a bitch, as was Mitsuru. "where have you been" was a male Mitsuru and Junpei was pure comic relief.

Wait for a holiday, that's what I did.

EO2U story mode was awesome.

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All Persona games have anime trope characters.

I'm currently at 55 hours and just finished Futaba's palace. Is the next dungeon really as bad as people say and how much longer till the game's done?

That's every Persona game.

Next dungeon just has a legit puzzle.
The worst is, dpeending when you finished Futaba's palace, the amount of non-content in summer.

You aren't even half way there

it's not likely the new music from Royal will top what we got

>could have gotten bandit character Westaboo
>just wifu bait

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The next palace was literally the worst not only the worst one in the game, but it introduces the worst part of the game
On the bright side, the game gets better after it ends, so you can look forward to that at least
You're like maybe halfway through the game though

He seemed to be operating under the assumption that Atlus doing these business practices was a recent development, and that what they were doing 20 years ago things was different. It's not, and I pointed that out. The company has always had these business practices, and if you don't like it then you shouldn't support them. Not giving em money is the most effective measure always. I don't know why you think I'm trying to sound smart or looking to add something to the "conversation". I just wanted to point out they've always been this way.

4 doesn't, unless you count Teddy. They're believable/normal stereotypes, while 5 has actual weeb shit tier characters.
>painter guy who lost his mom
boohoo
>loli who lost her mom
boohoo
>cool teen detective
>some bitch I don't know anything about just yet
>super smart prez girl who is totally stable
Riuji and Ann are the only ones that are okay-ish, even fucking Morgana is annoying as hell.

That is a complete game user

It took me from the day it came out to the last day of the semester in the first week of May playing every free hour I wasn't spending on coursework. I forget what day of April it came out but I had to have put almost a month of time into it. Glad I won't have to manage college with it this time around at least.

>Beauty is Abortion

>They're believable/normal stereotypes
>the bro who exists solely to suck your cock
>the yankee
>the idol
>the tomboy
>the reverse trap
>the bland yamato nadeshiko
Yeah, super believable totally not anime archetypes.

4 does even worse since they're all bland one-note retards. at least the 3 and 5 casts develop ad does interesting stuff in the story.

50 hours left minimum, it isn't bad just long and hard. Writing takes a nosedive for it though. Get SP adhedives and take breaks instead of trying to plow through it all at once.

>want to get it when it launches in Japan
>the base game costs 90 fucking dollars
What the hell? Why are games so expensive over there?

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Well yeah, palace wise there's still a bunch of shit up ahead when I took a peak in the mod menu, but I am just annoyed with how long it takes.
I finished P3P in nearly 45 hours (with reading EVERYTHING and not skipping shit either) and P4 with cheats took me around 42 hours. HLTB says rushed is like 80 or so hours for P5, but I am 55 hours into the game and am only halfway done.

That's a flat out lie. Shido's Palace is 100%, garbage.
You can argue all you want, but every Persona game has a cast with anime tropes, user. You can't say P4 was the only game in the Nusona trilogy to have actual characters since you disliked them, because you're flat out lying to yourself, and everyone else. Go to bed.

Shido's palace is great, you're just a massive bitch.

it doesn't really make me want to play the plus version. I'm not paying 70 bucks for a new confident and a generic playable character I don't care about.
I don't see what would make me buy persona 5 royale honestly.

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nice blog

I agree Shido's was bad, but Okumura's was just in another stratosphere of dogshit
>those robot fights
>that stupid fucking space puzzle
>timed boss fight that didn't really need to be timed
>that Morgana cutscene before the boss fight
>rat sections
>great

>I finished P3P in nearly 45 hours (with reading EVERYTHING and not skipping shit either)
No you didn't, not without skipping shit or intentionally not doing stuff like social links or side stuff.
>P4 with cheats
lol

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It truthfully isn't. The rat puzzles are retarded, and there's way too much dialogue present when you're trying to explore. Most people consider it one of the worst dungeons in the game.

By the way, how many dungeons are there in Q2? Looks like there's enough space on the ticket screen to fit five but I don't know if the fifth one is just for the special screenings.

get a load of this fag

Rent free

>I finished P3P in nearly 45 hours
what the fuck
Unless you were speed running P3 takes like 80 hours to beat

>P4 with cheats took me around 42 hours.
are you speed running user.

In that case
*ahem*
FUCK P3FES, FUCK P3P and FUCK P4G
the garbage those games added outweighs the QoL improvements.

P3FES and P3P doesn't add anything

Okay, as I said Teddy is gay and I forgot about Rise. Excluding them the stereotypes aren't total weebshit like in 5.
Rather bland retards than generic anime cast #2039
STOP TELLING ME TO GO TO BED YOU FUCKING NIGGER CAT
Well okay I lied, I dropped the game at like 85% with a total playtime of 41 or 42 hours. I played those 42 hours over the span of 3 1/2 days cause I had no internet. Played from morning till bed. What is true though is that I didn't skip any dialogue, of course I didn't do every side confidant or mission, I rushed Tart. once a month for those mini missions and mostly just grinded stats and social ranks.
As for P4 with cheats, I played legit until the incel boss that was total garbage to fight, from there on out I used EXP mult. cheats as well as instant map reveals.
P3P was alright when it came to dungeon crawling cause you had an overhead view, in P4 and regular P3 it's over the shoulder and might I add shadows have an instant lock-on and your melee range is pathetic. I played P4 solely for the story, same as all the other games.

The rat sections are fun as fuck, and they're cute.
The dialogue is great too. Why would you not want character interactions in the final dungeon? Those are some of the best parts of P5's dungeons in general, it grounds them in the reality of the game instead of feeling completely disconnected from it like P4's.

I think there are only 4 but PQ had 5 so I'm still holding out for a surprise.

You're absolutely mentally ill when you say it'll only have 5 hours of new content, when you KNOW that not to be true. It's like you're trying to fool yourself (because you sure won't anyone else) and being self-aware of that fact, just weird.

>The answer
>FeMC and new social links

Based tard.
Nah, I just didn't bother going into dungeons every other day, I rushed them midway through a moon cycle for those rescue missions and then grinded a lil bit before story missions.
Most of my time was spent ranking up social thingies and getting stats.

Actually what the fuck are you talking about, this post is just blatantly wrong

> I dropped the game at like 85% with a total playtime of 41 or 42 hours
So this is the true potential of a Yea Forumsermin, huh?
how disappointing you didn't even make it half way through.

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The dialogue is excessive, to the point where they might as well hold your hand. The puzzles are piss easy, too.

>Why does a VN have so much dialogue?

I still can't imagine re-playing a 90+ hour JRPG with massive pacing issues for a bit of new content, this is such a baffling release
At least Golden came out years later on a new handheld

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FES
>you can revive chidori for some fucking reason
>the answer fucking sucks balls but at least you don't have to acknowledge it
P3P
>FeMC and everything that came with her was fanfic garbage

And had Adachi link

I realize this is late, and I agree with P5 boss themes sucking ass, but Burn my Dread or Battle for Everyones Souls are incredibly iconic. Don't know how you would ever confuse P5 and P3's final boss themes, unless you're referring to Darkness from The Answer.
P4 I could maybe give you since The Almighty is generic as fuck.

I'm more suprised that there's still demon-designs I haven't seen yet, even after playing SMTIV which has like 600 demons in it

nice blog post

I was nearly done with it lmao. I stopped playing at around the same time that one girl died, the one that was with "the bad guys" before and then was in hospital for ages. I also remember some bigger threat appearing. I probably still have the save file laying around on my old drive.

nice blog post

Byahkee is only in P2, there are a lot demons that only appear in one game.

>At least Golden came out years later
So 3 years isn't okay but 4 years is?

"for a bit of new content"
Quite the deceiving thing to say. We know the general moments, but not what happens within them. For example Kamoshida's palace is redone in P5R with new assets, puzzles, ways to move, different rooms, maybe the fights within it, etc . Who knows what dialog outside the palace was changed, the pacing, etc?
We know that we still meet him and then defeat him, but nothing else, not what or how it happens in-between those two. Same applies to each and every arc in the game.

If you think you already got your dose of P5 then fine, but this clearly goes wellllll beyond a P5G or P3P/FES

>conveniently leaves out the "on a new handheld" part

doesn't matter

> P5G
P4G*

nice blog post

Royal is coming to Switch though
:^)

>loli who lost her mom
>cool teen detective
You literally listed two archetypes that are also in P4. On top of that, the archetypes aren't super believable in P4, as much as I love the game.

nice blog post

>this is such a baffling release

No it really isn't. Did you miss the Catherine re-release? Radiant Historia re-release? Strange Journey's? Let's not forgot both devil survivors or fucking hell Persona 3 which had 2.

Those were at least re-releases of older games on new platforms. I'll grant you Catherine though, but at least to my knowledge Catherine doesn't take 50-90 hours to replay

Full Body and P3P are enhanced ports not a re-releases.

Because those aren't re-releases at all.

Nocturne and P3FES were on the same platform.

You say this as if it means anything which is the best part you embarrassing nigger. Keep crying for me.

They did both. Catherine classic and a full body.

Devil Survivors, Strange journey, Radiant Historia were all DS to 3DS which isn't much different from Persona 5's PS3 to PS4. Persona 3 FES was put out again on the same system too, and that kickstarted all the franchise mainstream appeal. It really isn't baffling at all man that they did this.

>which isn't much different from Persona 5's PS3 to PS4.
But it is.
DeSu1 got fully voiced dialogue and a extra day.
I don't know what extra shit DeSu2 got because i don't wanna get spoiled.

> and that kickstarted all the franchise mainstream appeal.
FES sold less than P3.

for all the boy characters, the guy rips off his mask when he unlocks his persona and gets blood everywhere. for the girls, there's never any blood.
What does it mean.

I don't think there's any blood for Ryuji or Yusuke, is there?
Other than Yusuke's bleeding fingernails I guess.

You have to go back

>DeSu1 got fully voiced dialogue and a extra day.
And P5R has extra months

>have to buy a PS4 for this
Why the fuck can't they just release this shit on PC or Switch?

when i say "it isn't much different" I mean the fact it's going from 1 console to another not that the games were moved to the 3ds without any new content. re-releases always have extra goodies with the only exceptions being shit like catherine classic.

>FES sold less than P3.
I also meant in general 3 kicked the franchise's mainstream appeal, and it had a re-release on the same console. 5 has already outsold it.

there's blood for both ripping off their masks.

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Oh, that is strange.

Only Futaba and Haru don't have blood

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Holding out for the PS5 and just gonna skip on the PS4
What are the odds this is getting a PS5 port?

It's already a PS3 port right?

The boys also sound like they're having their nuts chewed off by a feral badger when pulling the mask off, while the girls screaming is there but muted by the soundtrack and persona's speech.

>Futaba and Haru
Makes sense, those two are literally non-existent

Which shouldn't be a surprise since Futaba never rips her mask off and Haru already has her "awakening" off screen.

I'm gonna need a Costanza meme of this girl immediately.

not touching this if it's not released as a DLC expansion. I bought the special edition with the shitty bag, art book, and everything. not paying 60+ dollars for a new game.

PS5 will probably be backward compatable with PS4 since Sony filed a Patient for it.

I don't know why everyone hates the new girl we barely know anything about and female MC was fine.

Marie was a mistake, though. It's especially bad that they made a P4G series that was literally "Whenever Marie isn't onscreen, people should be asking 'Where is Marie?'"

>comparing an entirely new campaign (or at least modified) to an unnaturally added on waif that exists just to break up the flow of the existing campaign

dumb nigger

Well guess your not playing this game then. If this was a simple DLC expansion then Atlus would've released it last year, but its not. Its a rerelease that potentially has too much changes from vanilla P5 that it can't be released as DLC.

>potentially has too much changes from vanilla P5 that it can't be released as DLC.

I can't find an image to convey how hard I'm laughing at this statement, just know I am.

How many extra months are we supposed to be getting? I heard someone say the third semester was 3 months.