Here's your Mary Sue bros

Why did people start using this term so much? I heard it a couple years before TFA.

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Byakhee:
>Servants of Hastur the unspeakable, they are a race of hybrid creatures made of ordinary matter that live in interstellar space. A hybrid who is neither completely crows, nor moles, nor buzzards, nor ants, nor vampire bats, nor decomposed human beings, they can neither be fully perceived nor remembered by a sane person. They can travel through space and carry a rider, but the rider must have something capable of protecting them from the cold and vacuum of space. They can be summoned to Earth to carry out tasks or act as steeds.
Last appearance was Eternal Punishment.

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I've heard it here and there, but TFA really kicked it into high gear. I mean, it works for Star Wars because it's a valid complaint, but people just read it as a complaint and don't bother researching what it actually means.

Trash character she's another Rise and Marie mixed into one garbage character

But Makoto is already a shitty Mary Sue. There's no way to make a character worse than her.

because they have no idea what it means and where it's applicable. originally, mary sue is a very well defined term to categorize a specific type of "special snowflake"-character but, somewhere along the lines, all "snowflakes" were falsely deemed mary sues

She seems like one of those characters the developer REALLY wants you to like, but as a result you end up strongly disliking them.

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>because it's a valid complaint
ehhh.... it's horribly exaggerated. Everything surrounding star wars is

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Her Persona is Cinderella holy shit she's garbage

Her persona looks pretty cool. Her all out attack screen sucks though

god damn fatlus is really going all out on this one

The irony.
You're not using it correctly either.

Every time they reveal more and more of her she becomes an even bigger piece of trash

>OP remakes his thread from a few weeks ago but with a different clip because he got btfo the first time
boards.fireden.net/v/thread/463064152/

>rey isn't depicted with an unrealistic lack of flaws or weaknesses

>DEBOTION

>Persona is Cinderella
>All out attack is Beauty is Devotion
>Gets to go to Hawaii
>Cinderella needed a prince charming to save her from her shitty life

Canon waifu confirmed ugh

I hope Joker gets startled and tries to jump on top of her. "I'll reveal your true form!"

That's not what Mary Sue actually means. That's the bastardized version used by retards.

she's not immune to being KO'd iirc

define it then

>Not Marie Sue.

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if it doesn't include the raidou dlc I'm not gonna buy it

It's the factual definition, whether you like it or not.
Sure, but then she goes ahead and singlehandedly breaks out of prison and does whatever she wants.

>voiced by Sora Amamiya
>doesn't sound anything like Shiho
Nope, I'm not really feeling it

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A R M P I T S

rey isn't a self-insert, at least afaik. yes she's a horribly written character and yes she's a snowflake superjedi that can do things it takes everyone else decades to master in a matter of minutes, but that doesn't mean she's a mary sue you faggot

NO NYARLATHOTEP NO BUYLATHOTEP

>Devoted to Senpai like Rise
>Gets tons of stupid shit like Marie
>Gets exclusive time with lead like Marie and Aigis
>Is a happy outside sad inside character like Minako

EWWwwwwwwwwwwwww

Yes it does you illiterate retard
google.com/search?ei=Y4f4XLHkO-WN5wLS8qjABg&q=mary sue definition&oq=mary sue definition&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0j0i22i30l3.2330.4282..4346...0.0..0.95.737.10....2..0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j0i67.DdjB98Wpe6A

unironically better news than anything kasumi related

>Another Altus rerelease
>Another heavily shilled waifubait character aimed at he lowest common denominator

where does she even come up in the game

A character like the one the trope is named after.

> breaks out of prison
and then gets knocked out, again
would've died if finn didn't defend her

>more Kaneko
based

>I'm going to use my poorly worded definition I found online years after the term was already coined because it found widespread use after the latest iteration of a renowned blockbuster series turned out to be less good than people expected
No, it doesn't. Do you even know where it comes from?

Kasumi is pure

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i love how this is the exact same shit gamefreak does but atlusfags are gonna eat it up like grandma's cooking

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nice dodge

Your day is better now anons.

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Gamefreak is worse about it and still gets away with it.

Well am no pro author or anything but for her to be considered a Mary Sue should have to be to perfect, just because shes good at a lot of things doesn't make her one, if shes written well that is. Because you can't just apply extreme perfection to a character without a good reason, that would be bad writing maybe if your parodying the idea of a Mary Sue.
So far from the trailers made public it is impossible to determine her as a well written character or a Mary Sue. She has been shown to be good at things, that's it. We've yet to see some negative side of her, they're probably saving that for the game because they don't wanna spoil anything. Me personally, i feel like we've seen too much good from her, it's time to see what negative feelings she has.

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Oh no she's hot.

Fucking tubular

Hey guys you know that wasn't her awakening right? her's is during an animated cutscene in fucking winter she's your new Marie! HAHAHAHAHAHA

How can the gremlins even compete when there's now 3 classy girls in the Phantom Thieves.

Last (You), but I'll still bite the bait.
The term "Mary Sue" comes from the name of a character created by Paula Smith in 1973 for her parody story "A Trekkie's Tale"[2]:15 published in her fanzine Menagerie #2.[3] The story starred Lieutenant Mary Sue ("the youngest Lieutenant in the fleet — only fifteen and a half years old"), and satirized unrealistic characters in Star Trek fan fiction.[4] The exact story reads: (...) By 1976, Menagerie's editors stated that they disliked such characters, saying:

Mary Sue stories—the adventures of the youngest and smartest ever person to graduate from the academy and ever get a commission at such a tender age. Usually characterized by unprecedented skill in everything from art to zoology, including karate and arm-wrestling. This character can also be found burrowing her way into the good graces/heart/mind of one of the Big Three [Kirk, Spock, and McCoy], if not all three at once. She saves the day by her wit and ability, and, if we are lucky, has the good grace to die at the end, being grieved by the entire ship.[5]

The difference between the two is that Atlus doesn’t pander to retards and their past few releases weren’t boring as shit.

Debotion?

This, she's fucking gorgeous.

>Sony continues to win e3 by doing nothing

I’m pretty sure Mary sue means a character who is jerked off endlessly and a character who has no flaws

>Atlus doesn't pander to retards

Beauto is Debotion?

>probably only playable for the last 1/3

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Kasumi is still showing up throughout the entire game which is better than what they did with Haru.

True.

Did you not see? She is fighting alongside Joker and Morgana, and no one else. She'll probably be a teammate before "For real" guy

Realistically, that's probably just a demo area or something. Ryuji is literally the first person you enter the Metaverse with, it'd be pretty drastic to change that.

>pantyhose

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I did, but I'm staying cautious 'till I see calendar dates. For all we know, her awakening could've been happening during winter and you're just temporarily separated during that new palace for whatever reason.

Pretty cute Persona.

personacentral.com/persona-5-royal-straight-flush-limited-edition/

welp, the tokufag within me is gonna make me preorder this shit

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I think that was just for demonstration, Joker and Mona have around 500 and 400 HP respectively, that's way too much for it to be that early in the game

What is probably going to happen is that Kasumi is going to get some sort of special dungeon with just Joker and Morgana for her awakening that will take place before the Casino.

She's just Makoto with long, red hair.

>BGM included
Those cunts actually did it.

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And a personality

Mary Sue is just another word for a “female character I don’t like”
Nanako is the most accurate representation of a Mary Sue in this series but nobody ever complains about her.

Kasumi actually out here bodying all the Persona girls and her game isn't even out yet. Makoto fags are seething right now I bet

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You shut the fuck up, you piece of shit.

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i sleep
REAL SHIT

This man gets it. Fellow patrician.

>Cry Mary Sue
>Can't even into baseball

Devotion

I knew they were going to throw in Featherman costumes when Joker ran off with the red costume during the concert, but getting it as a BGM too is awesome. Too bad about it being DLC.

The things pantyhose does to my dick, man.

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I did

Have you played Persona 4?

No, I unironically only come to these threads for the fap material. Hell, I barely even play video games anymore.

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konichi...wah!

>Dante
>Raidou
>Marie
>Qatherine
Atlus just can't do it. Why are they still trying?

>No comically hideous party member that is completely played straight instead of like an ebin beautiful all along character
I would laugh my ass off if Atlus had the balls

>>Dante
>>Raidou
ebin

she looks like she fucks black guys

>Persona 6: Katawa Shojo

I've seen the tattoos

Lies

Same, it's been my fetish since I was literally 2. I don't get off to naked. Naked is gross.

>Persona 6: Stone Ocean
Fixed

But Chie already exists

Remember in Persona 4 when there was a girl played for laughs entirely because she was disfigured

Women are so much sexier clothed, it's the allure of the mystery, the unwrapping of the present on Christmas.

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Wait, is it Cendrillon? Cendrillon has nothing to do with rebellion. She was entirely passive and needed a literal deus ex machina to show up and help her.

>Persona 4's theme is about accepting yourself
>Unless you're fat lol

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Cinderella is about someone subjugated due to societal restraints, in her case being fucked over by her family. Fits with the game.

Cute Chuu, Stan Loona

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wait is she not like p3 femc? she's just another hoe to for the mc to date??

Marie all over again

That is literally objectifying. You should probably reword that

Yes. At no point was it even implied she was like FeMC.

But usually, the Personas are actual rebels or those who went against the establishment. Cendrillon was subjugated by her circumstances, but she never rebelled against them until a deus ex machina showed up and gave her everything she needed to have just one night of happiness. And then when all that was taken away from her, she quietly returned to her subjugated lifestyle until someone else saved her from it.

>another hoe to for the mc to date
she is the canon love interest and she will be shoved down your throat marie style and you will learn to deal with it.

Fuck off roastie.

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Being a fat fuck is a poor choice and shouldnt be celebrated.

>Marie

You can completely ignore her till she dies. No such thing with super perfect Kasumi here.

Which is what? Don't be obnoxious. It's obvious no one knows the character referenced

Hanako was a rude bitch though

I'm sorry what? Are you saying Pokemon fags don't do exactly that?

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Well yeah, the fat bitch accept herself completely, to the point of ignorance.

>tfw no character will ever approach the greatness that is Ishtar

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>no one knows the character referenced
The character is mentioned in this very thread. Regardless, lmgtfy.com/?q=Mary Sue origin

You're comparing a human being to a present under a tree. That's not right

As long as she has a better personality than Marie I don't mind taking that Kasumi dick.

You don't belong here. Don't @ me.

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she's super cute, hopefully she's well written

>a type of female character who is depicted as unrealistically lacking in flaws or weaknesses.
So Rey then

I hate nu-persona ironic weebs normalfags fanbase

Apologize.
Everyone knows Yu was the biggest Gary Stu, fucker was forced into everything.

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well the only thing hes been forced into that the other protagonists havent are the p4 fighting game and bbtag, he's not that much more forced than Makoto or Ren

>Cinderella Persona
So, I can bet that she will have family issues or be poor

Yu is the main character, of course he is.

People forget that the term Mary Sue comes from characters forced into an already existing story, like, say, Marie.

Will she turn back after midnight?

The plot twist will be is that she is also created from magic

Oh please a shit gary stu like Yu deserves a shit Mary sue like Marie. They complement eachother perfectly

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>Add new character
>Haru gets pushed further down the line

>people arguing over what mary sue means
>nobody actually bothers to back up their point against the people who are actually right

all the MC's are "gary stu's", thats a shitty argument to make. Marie and this new chick deserve to be shit on though

should've been feMC, this is fucking stupid dude.

>>Qatherine
that
isnt actually their name right? please tell me no

>Disney's big blunder
what?

Hmmmmm?

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Yuricucks die in a fire

How did Snoy allow her leotards? That's Cammy tier sexy

I think he means the new Catherine ayylmao in full body, idk if her name is actually spelled with a Q but they already have K and C taken

...

>play game with ridiculous self-insert Gary Stu getting your dick sucked 24/7
...
>Mary Sue comes along
REEEEEEEE NO NO NO I'M THE COOLEST ONE THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING

Self-insertfags are pure cancer.
Prove me the fuck wrong (you can't).

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shut the fuck up you motherfucking niggerfaggot

>Beato

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JUST GIVE ME FEMC ALREADY FUCK GODDAMNIT!

>make a generic character that is made for the sole purpose of selling a re-release
>because of this, you have to REALLY sell her to the player
>because of this she just ends up feeling like a forced waste of dev time that ends up throwing a wrench in something that was already fine to begin with
why does atlus keep doing this? It felt like the Catherine remaster was the worst it was going to get since the entire game kind of revolved around the main two. It seems like this girl's story is going to change tons of shit about P5's story, for better or for worse, either way I could tell you that R is probably going to shill this girl a ton throughout the entire game and it's just gonna get super annoying real fast since she was made to have no real personality since her whole purpose is to get as many people to re-buy a game.

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>play game with ridiculous self-insert Gary Stu getting your dick sucked 24/7
You clearly didn't play the game. Joker's an outcast.

Never ever

Woah that's so cool.

Yu was based

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I remember there was one fag I was arguing with who was Soo sure she was FeMC before the concert. I want to see his seething face now haha

>people fall for it again
just look at the reactions both here and outside of this thread, everyone is falling for this generic cookie cutter waifu

>thing that nobody asked for

I mean she's hot but whatever

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Joker is only an outcast to characters that don't matter, and it's really only shown off to the player in the beginning.

This. Persona is nothing but a playable Light Novel, and nothing is allowed to question the self-insert's dominance.
Looks like they made a miscalculation of their audience here.

I can't believe sony going to censor this, I want to look forward to it, but FUCKING sony.

>b-but sega one of the big guys! sony will give them a free pass!

explain sony getting capcom to censor DMC then

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>P5babies are so salty over Yu that they now think being a chad is the same thing as being a gary stu
just look at all the canon material and Yu is a much more enjoyable character than Joker at least.

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>why does atlus keep doing this?
Making new characters that are completely avoidable and doesn’t change the main plot at all unless you do the new stuff? I don’t know nepfag you tell me.

>Catherine remaster was the worst
How would you know that? You never played since it isn’t out in the states or Europe yet.

And she looks exactly as P3P femc with a different hair, but it seems that got erased from the memories.

What? Mary Sue is a term commonly used in series, especially manga/anime. It doesnt matter the gender

>people
It's a singular mentally ill shitposter
boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/mary sue/type/op/.

>entire base Catherine game was built around an obvious dichotomy of two girls, and the game makes this point clear throughout
>new game says fuck that and gives a third option that doesn't even make sense and is just there for weirdness and strangeness
also you can figure out how bad it got because the entire story is uploaded on youtube already. I think the dumbness of this whole thing all comes together with the new title screen, it's fucking terrible

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>SJW persona

yikes cringe dislike

Persona's entire theme is social justice you mong

So far, I’ve been able to pirate every SMT/Persona/Devil survivor game via a hacked PS3/3ds/Vita and will pirate P5R aswell. fuck atlus

>Mary sue/Gary stu are a badly written characters, without any flaws.
>the term originates from star trek fanfic

The term itself is old as fuck, and yes, there is gendered version - Gary stu

>It's just Maire again
>No one liked Marie last time not even the Japs
>They keep pushing her and no liked her
>They are now trying it again
Just stop with this shit.

I rather have kasumi then FeMC

>Gary Stu
just say mary sue, faggot.

>he is unaware

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Thats pretty based, unlike other disabilities like being a cripple, death, blind, etc, being fat is a choice and a poor one

Kys, he's posting god-tier mages.

In-game, sure, it's your player character, what the fuck did you expect?
If you take shit like the anime and P4A into account, fucker's not perfect at all and quite the autist at the beginning. Has his own share of issues, a shadow like everyone else but manages to overcome his shit at the end.