Why is modern Isekai terrible?
Why is modern Isekai terrible?
>posting the edit
>Why is modern Isekai terrible?
because it's usually filled with shitty harem tropes
Because the writers are too young to have proper life experiences and mostly don't read anything but isekai beyond what's required for school or a few series that run in Shonen Jump, leading to an incestual cycle of influence, shitty isekai begets new shitty isekai. It's the Hapsburgs of genres, so inbred that it has inherited disorders not found in any other bloodline.
>Watch modern Isekai
>They completely disregard the protagonist came from another world one or two episodes in
>Protagonist doesn't care about returning.
Fuck dudes, the only good Isekai I've seen was that one about the doctor or the chef going back to federal japan.
Who want return back to being hikki neet loser?
>he never read Zipzang
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What would an isekai JRPG feel like? Would it be self aware of the videogame logic?
The protagonist is usually dead in most isekais.
Rise of the webnovels japanese hacks write on their phones on their 3 hour commute to work that aren't interested in telling an actual cohesive narrative, but rather preoccupied with presenting their totally unique spin on the concept and their OC donut steel settings and whatever
You end up with half-assed shit with no direction
The term isekai shouldn't even be used of older works that actually tried to tell a story with the elements of transportation to another world or timeslipping or whatever
Because you haven't written yours yet.
Do those trapped into mmos count as isekai?
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance is essentially an Isekai
I think the first Dragon Warrior Monsters games is an Isekai, with the premise being that the main character returns home after winning the Starry Night tournament
>Love the Isekai genre because of how much potential it has for slice of life stories
>Every possible writer wastes it with their empty harem plots or their "i have become god" characters with their cheat powers
I honestly feel bad about it. the industry will get exhausted from the Isekai genre without popping out good stories.
>They completely disregard the protagonist came from another world one or two episodes in
not defending shitty isekai shows here but this is absolutely not true, all isekai shows start their episodes with the MC bringing in something from modern technology to solve/start an issue.
12th kingdoms was alright iirc
They do, but it's a more classic approach to the genre. Usually those are played for horror whereas modern isekai is wish-fulfillment escape fantasy.
Isekai where the protagonist isn't overpowered.
It counts as real world native isekai, assuming you mean stuff like SAO. If you mean Log Horizon, Overlord or others where they're actually transported into a world based on a game, then it's a standard isekai.
12 Kingdoms is from a different time and a prime example of something that definitely shouldn't be put under the same isekai umbrella with the shit that's got popular in the last decade or so, ever since SAO
Because their worlds are boring and not fleshed out. What are their tax policies? What do they eat?
>>Protagonist doesn't care about returning.
they didn't want to return in Narnia either. wanting to return has always been bullshit when the new world is a hundred times more interesting than your old one
I meant stuff like hack
Only bullshit if you've got cheat powers and nothing to worry about
A """realistic""" fantasy world would be fucking terrible to live in
Just think how boring day to day life would be without electronics, what a chore everything would be to do, traveling would be a gamble with your life
To be fair, in Narnia they were living through the WW era. Their world would have been depressing as fuck to begin with.
Often in Isekai most MCs don't want to return based on NEET wishes like wanting a harem or inane stuff like that.
>Isekai where the protagonist isn't overpowered.
does it count if the MC starts weak but gets stronger as the game advances?
Isekai is only the new way they justify why characters have to explain how the world works, the decade before that it was the magic high school with the MC being an underachiever (but actually super strong) so the others character felt the need to show off by explaining basic concepts to him.
I would want to go back and forth because for as convenient as the new world is, it wouldn't have videogames or my old family and friends.
It would be cool if they at least give decent reason for people to not go back, like wanting to go back but being unable to do so or already having a shit life in the old world.
The usual bullshit "It's an Isekai, so let's have fun!" gets boring after a while.
Aren't most isekai protag neet loser or trapped though?
Nobunaga no Chef is the best
Even a neet loser has his hobbies in his old life which he tries to recreate poorly in the new world.
I mean, they are trapped but at least they should be actively seeking a way to get out. But most of them give up 5 minutes in and say "Oh well, let's just enjoy it".
Because they tend to default to an RPG-Rules-Driven setting that takes a lot less world building and explanation to set up rather than put more work into illustrating/establishing their own unique world. They think whatever conflict or interactions between the hero and the people he or she meets will sell the piece more than coming up with Barsoom uniqueness in the landscape.
Speaking of Heroes, Isekai and Light Novels in general have also really just doubled down on making bland, down on their luck non-characters as the MCs in order for the audience to deliberately use them as ciphers for themselves, and don't take risks or extraordinary measures to give them personalities. Not that alot of silent protagonists of RPGs are any more 3 dimensional, but still.
The writers endlessly plug them as characters who do not think they're anything special until a manic pixie girl or plot shows up and drags them into an adventure where whatever paltry life experiences from the real world will give them egregious boons to solving the world's problems.