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>2 is overly memey and poorly designed
What does that even mean, has reddit actually rotten your brain? Fallout 2 has a larger world, more interesting story and better writing than the original.

Why is it bad, Todd

Fallout 2 > New Vegas > 4 > Fallout > Tactics > 3

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3 > NV > 2 = 1 > 76 > 4

>Todd
>Caring about anything other than Skyrim
Newfags

>kung fu town
>talking mole rats
>did someone say south park references????
>dude bro i love monty python how did you know
>lets shove every weird looking modern gun we can think of in they look so cool lmao
>frequent encounters with more than ten enemies that force you to wait forever while they slowly go through their turns
>you critically hit for 0 damage
>you critically hit for 0 damage
>you critically hit for 325348 damage
for every good thing in fallout 2 there's something else that's mind numbingly retarded and the game was clearly not designed with any unified vision, the devs just crammed in whatever they wanted because they thought it was funny.

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>Every game has to be 100% serious for mature gamers like myself

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have sex

Are there any other games that even use that gun besides Planetside?

>Reddit meme
Leave

>Every game has to be 100% serious
like the first one yes

>yeah I like reddit humor
fuck off faggot 2 sucks

When did he say every game? We're talking about Fallout here

>exact the same issues with 3, some issues go as far as 1
>but in New Vegas you can actually join "bad guys"
>F3 is better thought
Uh huh.

I don't get why so many people prefer 1 over 2. Sure the writing in 2 is worse(not that it's especially good in 1 either), but as an RPG it's still far far better. 1 is too limited and small scale to really feel satisfying. It neither has the story or gameplay to really work as a more linear "Bioware" style game. It needs that scale 2 brought to make the mechanics interesting, it needs those opportunists to let you build your character, it needs those more memorable locations you spend more time in. Not to say that Fallout 1 still isn't a damn fun game, it just felt to me like Fallout 2 realized the ideas that 1 tried to do and never quite reached. Sort of how NV improved on everything Fallout 3 build to make a far more satisfying RPG.

Fallout 3 > Fallout: New Vegas > Fallout 4 > Fallout 1 > Fallout 2 > Fallout: Tactics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fallout 76

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>mfw i bought fallout 76

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user...

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Fallout 3> fallout 2> fallout> New Vegas> fallout 4> fallout tactics

openttd wastelands > fallout doomsday > fallout 2 > fallout 1 > fallout nv > fallout 3 > fallout 4 = fallout 76 > fallout rimworld > hoi4 old world blues

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I like how tides have started to turn against newvegas fags
>OLD GAMES GOOD
>OLD GAME MAKER MAKE NEW GAME
>NEW GAME BEST GAME ME HATE ANYTHING ELSE

swap 4 and tactics and I agree completely.

this looks cool

hoi4 old world blues at least is challenging unlike 3

3 > 4 > NV > 1 > 2

objectively true and you know it

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If you actually like RPG's and not just Farcry with shitty gunplay, then it's completely reversed.

fallout 3 with tales of two wastelands is interestingly difficult, especially if you dont fast travel. it took me 3 in game days to walk through the city part in the bottom right and it felt like an absolute journey.

Fallout BoS is piss
Fallout New Vegas is shit
Every other Fallout game is fine

lol cope

imagine unironically liking bethesda "fallout" over NV lol.

>Sarcasm
yeah sure buddy

[Cait liked that]
xp +25

Even a dead rat is more fun and interesting than LGBTQ Vegas.

>fallout 3 is the best fallout game

Objectively you are wrong, the story is not that great, there isn't a lot of side quests, and the characters are forgettable. The wasteland and map design is god awful too.

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>The wasteland and map design is god awful too.
If by "god awful" you meant "aeons ahead of New Vegas" then yeah I agree.

I love Fallout 4 for the sole reason that it's proof that you could write something dumber than Fallout 3. Even if you think that 1, 2 and NV aren't all that you still have to admit they at the very least have some basic coherence and sense, meanwhile the Institute somehow outretarded the Enclave and BoS from 3 combined.
Have do you create a faction that doesn't make sense at all, literally nothing about them is thought out, it makes the Railroad look like a stroke of genius.

Yes, and Fallout isn't serious
Fallout 2 is the opposite of reddit, though

Legion is far worse.

>going through the metro to get to new locations
>wasteland populated with every enemy imaginable, you can't go three minutes without running into another fight of rad scorpions or a yao guai
>wasteland locations pretty much feel the same everywhere you go

youtube.com/watch?v=5z8XHe2NoAE

I have 250+ hours on 4 and literally never bothered with the Institute ending, they just never felt compelling to me.

Spoil me on what's their end game? Do they literally just want to replace all humans with gen 3 synths? What for? Feels like the Master and his grand plan all over again.

I'm not that user, but you must be legitimately brain damaged if you think Fallout 3's map design was good or made even a lick of sense

they wanna invent shit while every other fucking faction wants to blow up what could be the last working lab in the world

>muh morality

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Imagine being such a miserable casual that you think 3 and 4 are preferable to the rest because you dont feel comfortable playing anything that isnt as simple as Skyrim.

imagine actually taking time to make this
and I'm not talking about the "arguments" themselves, but the whole "I AM SILLY!!!!!" part of it.
have a pity (you)

Was the Railroad in any of the Isometric Fallout titles? I always assumed they were invented in 4 but 3 had a full side quest for them

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pleb

The whole plot of 4 is based on a shitty sidequest in 3, which in turn was a silly nod to Blade Runner.
fallout.fandom.com/wiki/The_Replicated_Man

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Fallout 4 had Assoultrons so it's good in my book desu

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Degenerates like you belong on a cross

>Fallout 3's colour pallete
green, brown, black, white

how so?

>tfw no assaultron gf

cool read user, thanks for posting

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Maybe when sex robots become affordable, we could meme Todd into selling Assaultron-themed sex bots as merchandise

>2 as the best one
No.

New Vegas really highlights just how much more tolerable Bethesda games would have been if they just started hiring some actual writers and quest designers.

Apparently the fact they they wear sporting goods and imitate ancient rom makes them worse than a faction with ill-defined motivation, that constantly sabotages themselves, stirs up problems for really no reason at all and is somehow outdone by any other research institute and factions in the previous series entries.
Who cares that their motivations seamlessly fit into the overarching conflict of the mojave with the leader bothering to explain to you as to why he reached the conclusions that he did.
I absolutely get the criticism against the legion, but to say that they are worse than the institute is the most dishonest full of shit thing I've ever heard anybody say on Yea Forums.
Any faction that actually bothers to properly explain its tenets and beliefs is by default better than the institute. The institute as an issue that's debated among Fallout fans doesn't even need to be brought up in the typical classic fallout vs bethesda fallout arguments, the institute would've failed to be good in any other game as well because that's how poorly defined and contracting they are.

F2 > New Vegas = F1 > F3 > Tactics > F4

put some thought into your bait, this is just a super typical contrarian opinion

now this is good bait. here's your (you)

Fallout 1 -> Fallout 2 -> Fallout Tactics -> Fallout BOS -> Fallout 3 -> Fallout New Vegas -> Fallout 4 -> Fallout 76

How do you guys always fuck up the order in which the games came out.

It looks like typical hive mind tastes to me

F1 = NV > F2 > F3 > Tactics > F4

That said I still enjoyed 4 when I started playing it more like a Fallout themed Borderlands then an RPG.

>all the retards with 200+ hours on 4 pretending 1 or 2 are their favorite

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I dont even own 4, it just pretend I do so I can say its better than 3

True, Bethesda quest/faction/companion writing is always flat out bad.
A fucking armor had more character than almost every f3 companion, how sad is that?

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You forgot Shelter

He's only counting game releases not money holes for impatient idiots.

>clearly hasn't played fallout 1
forgot about all that rich story integration with your no name sidekicks who only ever do anything when there is a fight

Companions are the worst part of FO1 and 2.

>HUR DUR I AM SILLY

>All the incels that reply to you have no counter argument
Love it

Unbelievably based

cringe and bluepilled

Max Payne, Project IGI, Battlefield 2/3, to name a few

>>closest to quality
>full of shitty bugs
>vats spergs out 75% of the time
>can max every skill
>Bethesda engine
>shitty fps
Yeah, fuck off zoomer lol

>Fallout 3 > Fallout Tactics > New Vegas
Let's not pretend like you ever played the first fallouts you retarded zoomer.

>Fallout 3 > Fallout Tactics
Okay, but does FO3 have deathclaws that can drive? Didn't think so

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Fallout 1 was also a buggy piece of shit. It was a well paced, tightly written buggy piece of shit though.

You know I never did give Tactics a fair shake and that's a compelling point.

Fallout 2 was notoriously buggy on release, don't remember much being wrong with 1 though.

>objectively true and you know it

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Yeah, F4 was not bad. The RPG elements and atmosphere were the drizzling shits but I was satisfied playing it. Ranked F1 below F2 because the companions felt more like conveniently allied NPCs and the areas were shorter and constrained, but it's still an excellent game. Good taste user.

based

F1 > F3 > F4 > cancelled MMO by Chris Taylor > Tactics
F2 and Jew Vegas aren't canon, they're piece of shit fanfic that completely misses the point of F1 and retcons half of the worldbuilding. Chris Taylor and Scott Campbell said as much.

Is the MMO still around?

There's only concept art which Bethesda took and incorporated into F3 architectural style.

It might just be me then, I had a lot of CTD's with 1 for some reason. The only time I had a problem with 2 was when I decided to do goofy shit with an item editor.

Then who were those Russians and Yea Forumsirgins I played the MMO with?

fucky shit can happen to some of the quests in fallout 1 causing them to break completely. sometimes you can't accept them, or turning in only gives you a bad ending.

another example of a bug (or oversight) is that you have to brutally murder dogmeat before you enter the cathedral otherwise your cover will be instantly blown and all the supermutants will come to kill you

i should add that the reason for killing dogmeat is because you can't dismiss him

Project V13 was Taylor's game. It was 3D.

Fallout Tactics > Fallout > Fallout New Vegas > Fallout 2 > POWERGAP > Fallout 4 > Fallout 3

>no name sidekicks
NIGGER DONT TALK SHIT ABOUT MY MAN IAN

I don't think I've ever managed to avoid being smg bursted in the back when I brought Ian along.

why didnt you just give him Gizmo's turbo pistol?

epic

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It's a cycle of him killing me when I first recruit him, causing me to decide to abandon the idea of companions rather then work within the limitations of the system. I stick with it longer in 2, but then they start clustering around doorways and I get tired of having to push them all out of the way every time I have to leave a building.

>mfw ditching the dog in fallout 1, 2, 3, nv, & 4

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kys

1>NV>2>3>Tactics>literal shit>4>76

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You become the head of the institute and take over the world via dispassionate radio speech and diamond city has some Skelly synths in it afterwords.

Fallout 1 has aliens and Elvis.

1>3=NV>2>4 (still pretty decent)
Haven't played the rest but I don't have doubts about 76 being at least close to last place

Tactics > 2 > 1 > 4 > NV > 3

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Reminds me of the Calvin and Hobbes strip with T. Rexes flying F14s.

Go to bed Todd!

>Hurr durr NV is bad and 3 is good
>"Bethesda Engine"
You just shot yourself in the foot

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There's no way this isn't bait

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>Fallout = Fallout 2 = New Vegas > Tactics > There's no other Fallout games.