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>Watch_Dogs Legion is set in a near-future, dystopian version of London.
>It's a post-Brexit world in which society, politics and technology have changed and altered London's fortunes.
We swear, this will not be a politically-slanted narrative this time
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I hope acid attacks are a feature in the game. Maybe knife license mini missions.
a sequel nobody asked for
You can't forget the police state, and milkshakes being thrown.
I mean it's Ubisoft of course it was getting a sequel. They've repeatedly said their focus on ips to turn them into series.
seems they looked at W2 and said "this isn't cringy enough"
>dystopian version of London
So just normal London then? Poof infested shithole.
With Ubisoft being in France you can't forget that they also get government grants.
obligatory trump blimp escort mission
>blasting andy stott while pakis and wogs tries to smash your car windows
I dont think anyone gets that Watch Dogs is cringy on purpose. WD1 had edgelord hackerman cringe, WD2 had annoying young hackerpeople cringe.
wasn't the second one a huge flop tho?
They already had a mission in WD2 where you had to break into a politicians house who wanted to make bay area great again.
>dystopian London
So just London then
>dystopian version of London
>post-Brexit world
>not ... a politically-slanted narrative
I can't even imagine how that would work.
what's the point though, why would you want to play a game where the characters are all unbearable specimens
no it's 'dystopian' as in white
You know, maybe I'd be on board if it was based on the London you see in Children of Men. Something tells me Ubisoft won't be that brave.
>brexit party utterly annihilates the competition
Just because you don't like brown people doesn't mean they're not British.
fuck off american
>He actually believes this
Why does MAGA piss so many people off? What's wrong with wanting your country to do better?
Watch Dogs 2 was a pretty shallow game desu. In fack, all of Ubisoft's open world games are and they all follow the same setup.
Is it all of london or just a part of it?
Because the last two went SO WELL!
>mission where you have to stop the police from framing a peaceful group of muslims who are being accused of grooming underage white girls for sex
>mission where a white girl is pregnant with a black baby and you have to hack into social media and change the baby to white or something
>mission where you uncover some right wing troll and he's 400lbs and lives with his mom
>mission where the police are framing blacks/pakis and you bust them out of jail
>enemies are all white dudes
>you play as some nigger kid
>all your allies are shitskins, one is trans, one is in a wheelchair, most have dyed hair
Never played a watch dogs game in my life, how close am I?
>dystopian, post brexit London
>Post-Brexit London
>All are goona be white people and evil
John Cleese is uncancelled!
>Watch_Dogs Legion is set in a near-future, dystopian version of London.
>dystopian version of London
Isn't that a bit redundant?
>durrr it’s political because I don’t like it
more unoptimized ubisoft trash
Also, when was the last time they made an original game? Far Cry, Watch Dogs, Assassins creed are all re-skins of the same damn game.
>What's wrong with wanting your country to do better?
Because if you make your country better, (((they))) can't control your life with their actions.
>brit-lefty trying to hijack pepe
LOL
Because it's being brought by the wrong person. If someone ran under MAGA and proposed bringing back the massive income taxes on the rich that the US had around the time when it was "great", people would be much more on board. But in what way does Trump want to make America great again? Aside from saying it as a rallying cry it seems like there is nothing behind it.
I hope that Ubisoft will implement the loicense lists on everything.
I see ubisoft shill are already at work.
Does anyone really care about another generic open world game?
>Pepe belongs to the right
God you right wingers are pathetic
The protagonist of Watch Dogs 3: pic related.
This honestly sounds like the most interesting one yet
If it was fun
But they're always so focused on the narrative that they forget to make it fun
why do the left keep stealing our memes?
Based Autechre poster
Wouldn't the player character need loicense to access the internet?
>mission where police are being made fun of for confiscating illegal spoons and have to assassinate all the twitter troll leader
inb4 they make a fictional Theresa May but she's just a not dead Margaret Thatcher
Stop shilling ur shit faggot
Doesn't London have that upcoming requirement for a porn license? Sounds dystopian enough as is.
>those filenames
he's adorable
What narrative? The story is always bland and inoffensive as much as possible
Its a social experiment by Ubisoft.
>you will be arrested for having a wrongthink.
Politics belongs on Yea Forums
I doubt that most people really know just how fucked it can really get in Londonistan.
>near-future, dystopian version of London
>near-future
i wish people would stop using the word "leak" when it's blatantly obvious that it's all pre-planned to build initial hype
Brexit is a good thing.
Good, get the fuck off the street
Will you be countering moped crime?
Why would they ever claim that? Watch_Dogs has ALWAYS been political.
cool it with the anti semitism
cast her
>mission where you have to "rescue" a trans toddler from their parents who want them to live a normal life, and put them in a brainwashing school
>difficulty levels: easy
Hope my English bros stocked up on medicine.
Either on the topic of WD3, I'm interested in the play as anyone mechanics. I assume story wise it's just nano machine bullshit like the movie Gamer but are we going to stuck as a bunch of low quality NPCs like the assimilation feature in Prototype. Will there be a central main character who does the brainjacking.
My dick (on top of)
>read first part
>think it's about teaching them how to write in a readable way
>turns out it's just allowing them to use a pen
Post guaranteed cameos
>If someone ran under MAGA and proposed bringing back the massive income taxes on the rich that the US had around the time when it was "great"
>he thinks corporations ever paid 80%+ income tax
>what are charities/foundations?
The reason the Baby Boomer era was good was because there was a massive leap in innovation regarding production capacity and a booming population in the West that shot economic growth up like a space shuttle. Even then Kennedy and other Presidents lowered tax rates during the 60s and 70s and the damage only came when globalization started to shift markets deeper in the late 80s and it continues on today now that foreign markets are more valuable to "those" interested in growth then stabilizing and promoting the domestic market.
Also the "top 1%" pays for over 50% of the budget that the government gets from income tax and the levels have barely dropped from peaks during WWII and post-WWII. Stop spouting bullshit that you know nothing about. I don't even like good goy Trump but you morons hate on him for the wrong reasons.
>protect her from mohamed
I like the way you think.
she is 15
OP is being disingenuous by co opting an argument Ubi made about the Division 2 being not political when it's right wing as shit.
you need to get a loicense on each shits. Sounds a big grindfest
>daily mirror
fak--
>tower hamlets
Carry on. Anyone English who isn't a leftist shit-eater fled London ten years ago.
rent free
It does say something about the state of the bong media if the fucking DM is the first bringing the story and everyone else only started to pick it up after CNN and co started to report on it as well.
I wonder if they'll portray the pakis as a peace loving people.
they're NPCs. they don't really understand anything.
Your disdain for that tabloid is correct, but the story is factual and caused a massive scandal that ended in the government having to seize control of the local council when they refused to accept reality, an unprecedented move in modern British politics.
en.wikipedia.org
This is what you get for voting for Labour tribally. Next election they proceeded to vote Labour again, so I'd withhold a large degree of sympathy for these idiots (not that I don't hate the tories either, but the absolute fact is these paki-rape gangs have only happened in labour areas
Real talk, WD2 was actually good. Even if you hated the story, the multiplayer was a fucking blast and the game was a lot of fun. I grinded Bounty Hunter PvP missions and had a blast killing perps.
Hmmmm
I hope we can help cover up child sex crime
I seriously want China to rob us of our freedoms.
FemMC confirmed? Wasn’t there a leak before with some of this info?
Honestky chink conquering the west would be an improvement. I'm not above eating cats.
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Half Asian fem mc
God I hope not, just make it another black guy if they want to be progressive. Ass creed odyssey already proved nobody wants to play as women.
Didn't someone just pop this?
>post-brexit world
so exactly the same but less EU flags
Is this loicense thing just a meme or is it an actual problem for you brit boys. Americunt btw
You could obivously use an exaggerated United Kingdom as a setting for a cybercrime police state dystopia game.
You have a state that enforces it laws in a very uneven manner - forgiving those useful to it and being incredibly harsh on people who keep demanding rights and shit.
You've got the universal surveillance and the electronic integration on many levels of society - including mandatory registration of electronic devices, and AIs to monitor how those devices communicate with each-other. The police force is deployed if you use your devices in a manner which the government does not like.
You've got your ground-level thugs, which while not technically government forces, will be corraled by government forces to where they can do some damage then the government arrests anyone who tries to defend themselves. This also gives the government plausible deniability as they can then "punish" those thugs with slaps on the wrist.
It also gives the player opportunities, because being able to sic a mob on something can very obviously go in the player's favor or backfire in any number of ways, and a very trigger-happy police that will arrest someone for a post the AI flags can easily be rigged in your favor if you subvert the device making the posts, or you subvert the AI itself.
Plus, the uneven enforcement of laws is naturally going to get a lot of people angry and in a state where they would rebel, if they had the tools to do so. Electronics and hacking are tools. If the pen is mightier than the sword, then the internet could be more powerful than the gun.
But knowing them though they'd make it a racial or religious issue about Muh Nazis rather than it being about biased government implementing a surveillance state, covering their own asses with useful idiots and shutting down dissent.
every meme has a certain truth behind it
What is the point of the meme if it is not real?
I don't really know what it's supposed to be referring to, other than the TV license.
Unless it's just generally poking fun at the UK for being an authoritarian shithole, in which case it's 100% on point.
Need permission from the fucking queen to take a shit these days.
UK has a fuck ton of beuracracy. The meme is a bit overdramatic but licenses are real in the UK. They have to pay for a TV license.
>>It's a post-Brexit world in which society, politics and technology have changed and altered London's fortunes.
>Half Asian
Which kind? This does take place in London.
That's 100% the point of the meme, it's just bantz about the uks nanny state condition.
Literally who cares about this actual shovelware?
>London
>a future
OH NO NO NO NO!
Not really, it's pretty much just shitposting retards, mostly yanks or people who never go outside.
I'll just play watchdogs 2, this sounds awful
MUH DICK
What was life like before Britain joined the EU?
That's right, they were an Empire.
see
You got a license for those bantz child bride?
OI U GOT A LOICENSE TO MAKE THAT POST?
London is already dystopian and was going to be with or without "brexit".
Might as well set it in 2019, it's already a crime ridden shithole, and was long before brexit was even a thing.
This
Fuck that. I'm so sick of this shit.
W2 was the most forgettable game I've ever played
Because in the modern day the way it resonates has been significantly more reactionary than in the past, to the point it's taken on fascistic elements. America First is also a phrase which has been, since the 40s, associated with the American fascists.
It's just a recycled campaign slogan, I don't really get it either. Someone else already used it, I think it was ronald reagan.
I mean the plot of watch dogs 2 was about police brutality and how it treats blacks unfairly
Not even kidding either
we ar legion lmao! Neve forgive, never forget. For da lulz! 1337 HAXXORZ ON STEROIDS
HACK THE PLANET
You guys did this shit last time too with Far Cry New Dawn. Claiming you play as the niggresses and the white guy is the bad guy. Turned out younguys were wrong, and will be wrong again. Post-Brexit has nothing to do with the plot, it's just set in the near-future which will be post-brexit.
>girl in the front is against Trump because he's a lapdog of the jews.
wtf bros I thought Trump was our guy????
can't wait to find out we're playing as a trans muslim female where the costume selection is just various graffiti punk versions of burkhas, and you hide all your hack tools inside it along with your weapons you get from the local mosque
will be good because then running around executing muslims and non whites won't be frowned upon
they got the setting right this time though, dystopian as fuck with big brother orwelian themes
>main character loses his mother to a bike wheel, and has his TV wrongfully imprisoned due to lack of a license, and becomes a vigilante
They were 100% right about Watch Dogs 2.
It was just about a criminal serial killer din du fighting the white mans system.
>liverpool wins the champions league
>now this
I can't take it anymore, lads
>What was life like before Britain joined the EU?
Economically collapsing.
The TV license is literally just a TV tax that you can opt out of paying if you don't watch broadcast TV.
>dystopian version of London
too bad the game was shit
W3 sounds... ohh spicy!
>half asian
Nice
>female
Fuck
This is very unrealistic, since when can women hack?
So was Watch Dogs 2, but it was by far the better game between it and the original.
That's not true though.
>What's wrong with wanting your country to do better?
They don't believe in "Better". Any measured differences between groups of people are purely measurement error and societal bias. Women should not be expected to be loyal or dutiful because being a good person is an outdated patriarchal norm. Hyper-promiscuous lust is just as good as a strong pair bond.
Migrants deserve a place in society because they're people too, and any differences in crime rates are purely due to biased police.
Once you start with the assumption that the concept of "Better" doesn't exist, and it's not possible for one person to become "Good", then you understand why they reject the idea of making America great again.
I don't know, go ask the people who play JRPGs.
I do hope Milkshakes are throwable item.
saying that post-brexit britain would be a dystopia is pretty fucking political
>Legion
Is this gonna be some l337 haxor Anonymous bullshit?
>tfw London is still whiter than any major US city
You Brits need to stop that shit before it gets any worse.
That's not what they're saying. Stop trying to be a victim.
That's not what was said though.
Leaked image of Watch_Dogs Legion's main enemy faction.
What else does "post-brexit dystopian London" mean?
It's cool if it is a politically slanted narrative, as long as they don't try to say it's anything other than that. Artists are allowed to disagree with you and make things that express their views. The game can also have a smart political narrative and still be a totally shit game.
Your entire preposition is based on unsupported assumptions.
America is still the most wealthy and powerful nation in history. This isn't a problem of lacking greatness, that's one of the principal cornerstones of ONE dimension of rejection of MAGA. Ignoring the fascist attraction of modern MAGA (which is there in the people who feel like they've lost status due to other people making gains and would like to roll those back.) The principal of great america being restored by... doing things which are demonstrably ridiculous (A wall? when border apprehensions, the metric used to determine number of illegals is at an all time low? with a president who has repeatedly stated that he thinks it's government's job to keep people from leaving their countries. Another alarm bell for people who are concerned about a push towards authoritarianism.) Then what you start to see is that the rejection of MAGA is because it's rooted in nonsense principals, you can't make something great by doing the same thing that has lead to it's decline (rising income inequality, the desolation of towns and communities without anything put in place to help stop them declining into drug dens when the good jobs moved away because you liberalised global capital and made it feasible for companies to move money to china and set up there and opened up the doors to companies refusing to reinvest money because it's more profitable for shareholders to do stock buybacks.)
Fascism combines totalitarianism with nationalism. Totalitarianism meaning one party, one dictator, one leader, whose will is enforced absolutely. I get why you'd oppose that.
Nationalism means putting your own nation first, and trying to work to build your own nation ahead of others, trying to reduce the amount of leeches and drains on that nation, and rejecting the people who'd sabotage your nation for selfish or international gain. This is the part that's resonating.
Trump's not even a nationalist because he's sucking Israel's dick.
>The game can also have a dumb political narrative and still be a totally shit game.
FTFY
Then why is brexit even brought up? Only leftist globalists think brexit was a bad thing. It's clear fucking propaganda you fucking mindless retards.
>Watch_Dogs Legion is set in a near-future, dystopian version of London. It's a post-Brexit world in which society, politics and technology have changed and altered London's fortunes.
Notice how distopian and post-brexit aren't even in the same sentence.
>"Keep politics out of my games"
>wants government to regulate the industry.
Enjoy your shit Yea Forums
Nice mental gymnastics to hide their blatant narrative you faggot.
They're setting a timescale.
>mission is based on Hillary's shit
>make Trump the villain
what did they mean by this?
brexit baaaaad
How is being in the same sentence relevant?
It's still post-brexit and is a dystopia, why would they even mention post-brexit if it's irrelevant?
Nationalism is 2 key things. The first is a useful tool but that element has completely passed the west, it's done that bit (creating socio-economic structures during the collapse of feudalism). Now all that's left is a destructive strongman element which doesn't serve to improve your nation in any real way, but instead to dissolve dissonance, foster an attitude of anger and distrust. The only places in the west with credible nationalist movements are places like Occitan regions and Brittany in France, Catalonia in Spain, etc. Everything else is nothing but an evolution of Georges Sorel's national mythology.
You can't. Racist.
Yeah a timescale...not like just saying its 50 years in the future as a timescale. Its clearly a political statement to get leftists interested in their games(and hopefully brainwash the young and naive)
Whats not true you twat.
Nigga you try to decouple a legal and economic system that's been tied into your country for 40 years. Shit is not easy and will do short term damage no matter what. But it's destroyed the tories, so it's not all bad.
Aren't frenchies making this game anyway?
>America is still the most wealthy and powerful nation in history.
And it could get better if we tried to make it so rather than saying "It's great enough, this will do".
>Ignoring the fascist attraction of modern MAGA
What do you mean when you say "fascist" because MAGA has nothing to do with fascism. Define your buzzword, please.
>which is there in the people who feel like they've lost status due to other people making gains
The income earned by the bottom 90% in society DECREASED from 2008-2012. Most of that went to the big banks. It's not just people feeling like they've lost status, they HAVE lost status.
>The principal of great america being restored by... doing things
It's done by NOT doing things such as trampling on 1A, 2A, 10A, or on trying to support multi-national corporations at the expense of local industries.
>he thinks it's government's job to keep people from leaving their countries
The context of this is that he thinks the other country should become good enough that people don't want to leave. You know, improve the country?
>Then what you start to see is that the rejection of MAGA is because it's rooted in nonsense principals
You don't know what the fucking principals are. It says it right in the fucking name - Make America Great Again. Do you know what that means? It doesn't mean "Maintain what makes America okay".
>make something great by doing the same thing that has lead to it's decline (rising income inequality, the desolation of towns and communities without anything put in place to help stop them declining into drug dens when the good jobs moved away because you liberalised global capital and made it feasible for companies to move money to china and set up there and opened up the doors to companies refusing to reinvest money because it's more profitable for shareholders to do stock buybacks.)
Okay, so we've established Hillary can't make America Great.
the ubisoft rep behind this thread is probably seething hard that he can't screenshot it to show his supervisor
I want to play as a indian and shit in all the streets.
Let's change it to this:
Watch_Dogs Legion is set in a dystopian version of New York. It's a post-Revolution world in which society, politics and technology have changed and altered New York's fortunes.
Is that paragraph saying the revolution caused the dystopia? No? Didn't think so.
>Okay, so we've established Hillary can't make America Great.
I would never have said that, Hillary is only 1 step behind Trump, the only and I do mean only thing she really has on him is the lack of using terms which are mired with the American fascist movements. MAGA has adapted that because the people who have lost out due to the post 2008 attack on regular people by the elite has found an easy target in the minorities in the US which have made social gains.
You can't improve the country to make capitalists not leave, America is too expensive because they have to care about not dumping waste everywhere, paying almost liveable wages, etc. This won't happen unless you want to crack down on global capital in a big way.
But it is nonsense because tautology doesn't mean you're doing anything, all Trump's done so far is help his mates make a bunch of money and stick everyone else with the bill 10 (well 8ish years now) down the line.
Imagine if they have a mission where you hack Big Ben to fucking explode
What a shitty comparison. The point is "post-brexit" is clearly a political jab at modern politics. You are just burying your head in the sand like most of your ilk.
The only black character is the main one. The other members of dedsec are white. And never in the game do they say white men are the enemies.
It's not set 50 years in the future. It's set in the near-future sometime after brexit.
>I-It d-doesn't c-count.
Why can't Watch_Dogs go back to being a normal game like the first one? Why are they forcing the whole "play as a minority" thing? I just want to play as a snarky Liam Gallagher-like character in London.
>nigel farage neverending dabbing
They haven't said that you play as a minority...
You keep saying "Fascist" when there's nothing fascist involved.
Define your buzzword properly or shove it up your ass.
Fascism isn't even bad if you remove the totalitarian elements, which aren't present in Trump's campaign, nor are they valued among Trump's supporters, nor does Trump himself support them.
Why is brexit a bad thing?
So why did they mention post-Brexit?
confirmed you play as an asian female so
America first was, and has been since the 40s a slogan used by American Fascists. You can't just pretend that it isn't.
Fascism is always bad because one, you can't pretend the totalitarian elements aren't there, and on top of that one of the most mainstream definitions of fascism is "the replacement of political expression, with the expression in terms of fashion"
Why is this meme so funny?
it was still extreamly subpar and just swapped out boring gravely man with actual trying to hard cringe
Nope, it's not.
The UK basically have spent the last 40 years scamming Europe, they've made a killing and have basically been able to ignore anything they really wanted to.
Brexit means their banks can't scam the whole of the European banking sector.
>le politics
2 was hardly political. The trump shit was loose as fuck and the flagrant tranny was made out to be a cunt.
Shit games though.
Anti brexit fags can't answer this.
Because Trump has stood strongly by the democratic process, he's stood by 2A, and while he hasn't officially said anything on 1A he's talking about social media censoring conservatives and how to stop it, which would be an extension of 1A to digital platforms.
"Fascist terms"
Okay. Which terms? And for that matter, are you sure they're fascist terms, and not just terms of nationalistic pride and improvement?
Trump's campaign is not anti-minority with the single exception of the Muslim minority. Trump's supporters are not anti-minority unless you consider "criminal" to be a minority.
You are parroting talking points which A. aren't true and B. which you don't even understand.
>You can't improve the country to make capitalists not leave, America is too expensive because they have to care about not dumping waste everywhere, paying almost liveable wages, etc. This won't happen unless you want to crack down on global capital in a big way.
If by Capitalist you mean Globohomo, yes those faggots are a huge cancer and they do want the country to get worse - every time people go bankrupt, the banks get to trade their made-out-of-thin-air money for actual stuff.
And yes, Trump is a huge cuckold for selling out to them.
>all Trump's done so far is help his mates make a bunch of money and stick everyone else with the bill 10 (well 8ish years now) down the line.
No, that's Obama.
>America first was, and has been since the 40s a slogan used by American Fascists. You can't just pretend that it isn't.
It's a slogan used by anyone who'd want to put America First.
Fascists use it because nationalism + authoritarianism = fascism.
But the slogan would fit perfectly fine without the authoritarianism.
>Fascism bad
I do not dispute this point.
I dispute the language used being fascist, because it's NOT fascist, it's nationalist.
Get your damn head out of your ass, putting America first isn't fascist unless someone's trying to prevent people from expressing support for or voting for a different party.
>their largest trading partner and due to proximity means they never will stop being their biggest trading partners.
>The British financial institution has been making an absolute killing by slowly murdering European banking.
>Been able to constantly say "no, no greater European integration"
>Okay. Which terms?
I explained this three times.
>I explained this three times.
You mentioned something that isn't a Fascist term three times.
You are stupid.
didn't the second game sell approximately zero copies?
>America is still the most wealthy and powerful nation in history.
That hasn't been true for nearly two decades.
Yes it is, you can't say "oh fascists made this their slogan, but we don't have to deal with the history of it"
I bought it so it sold at least one copy.
because it's based in reality.
>you can't say "oh fascists made this their slogan, but we don't have to deal with the history of it"
I can, I did, I am, and Get rekt.
>PS4 exclusive
Not trying to argue, but how is keeping the UK in the EU going to make the situation worse? Doesnt that mean the UK can't take more advantage over the EU now?
>Only leftist globalists think brexit was a bad thing.
No, a lot of right wing globalists think it's a bad thing too.
*better not worse
Thruss isn't a villain, and there's a mission where you actually have to save him.
So pretty much only muh one world order globalists are upset. Sounds like a good thing to me. Fuck the jews.
>So just normal London then?
Literally yes. The reason why they're choosing London is because current London is so heavily monitored.
Fuck I came into the thread to ask how there can be a sleeping dogs 3 when there wasn't a sleeping dogs 2 and then I realized you're talking about an infinitely inferior game.
"The history of a slogan"
Please. What matters is the slogan's meaning. Not people with a second unrelated goal who also used that slogan.
Or do you think that if a flat-earthing niggerfaggot who says climate change is a serious problem that needs to be addressed (or whatever else you consider complete bullshit) happens to say "Look Before You Leap", that now you're not allowed to use that phrase anymore, and anyone advocating caution is now encouraging Enviro-tarding?
That's the exact mentality that makes the OK hand gesture and the Hashtag a hate symbol. If a 2nd person says a message, it doesn't bloody matter what the 1st person who said it used it for, what matters is the message.
Imagine believing that a one world government that doesnt fairly represent the people it rules over can possibly be a utopia.
Truthpill. The reason why they're choosing London is because it's infamous for being such a fucking nanny state requiring a citizen to need a "loicense" for just about fucking everything because Watchdogs was always about authoritarian control. It's not really about Brexit.
Double dose pill incoming. They are using the garbage post brexit marketing just to stir up controversy to get the name out.
>it'll be full of "deep" """""""homages""""""" to V for Vendetta
>slant
Fucking racist
>Full white protag in first game.
>Full black protag in second.
>Half asian in third game.
No full for asians?
Cashing in on the anti hapa victimhood.
I thought 1984 would never happen.
The question of "How do we fairly represent the people whom we rule?" is one with no easy answer.
I agree that the Brussels faggots aren't a utopia, but representative democracy isn't a utopia either because it doesn't represent their future citizens, only their current ones.
In a representative democracy, a person who has no desire to contribute to the nation's future still gets power.
Anyone who has no loyalty to their nation, and who have no children to care about, have no stake in that nation's future, and they still get a vote.
As a result, you get tons of welfare addicts and student debt collectors who accomplish sweet fuck all, but who still have the power to assign themselves taxes because they have the power to vote for people who would do so.
But suppose you want to stop this. How would you measure who contributes and who doesn't? It's not money, money is controlled by private institutions called banks and tends to end up in the hands of people who'd sabotage your right-to-law so they can get more control and power. It's not hours worked, because that number is so piss easy to inflate that it'd be a farce, and this also does not count the great value that mothers have for society. Is it raising a family? Then do we deny rights to the infertile, and grant rights to someone who'd shart a baby across the border to reap benefits with no real loyalty?
There's no good answer, and to "fairly represent the people you rule over" is not an easy thing to do.
>lacking a third grade level of reading comprehension = someone is engaging in mental gymnastics
I see summer arrived early this year.
So then perhaps it would be unwise to attempt control over the whole world when we arent even close to being wise enough for such a monumental task.
>dystopian
no user that word simply means the game will have nothing but the most cartoon-tier villians that will be mostly white men with a few of the classic standouts:
>evil old white hag who resents all the young people because they are more beautiful
>stereotyped to the extreme black masculine male bruiser who hates pretty much everyone except the people giving him a paycheck
>evil twin girls of random descent that finish each others sentences and have a romance route you can take where they capture and force you to lewd them
>completely silent male that has unknown motives and probably feels the least connected to the villain cast, at one point in the story will have a chance to kill you and go full anime aloof mode and just walk off like he doesn't care but in reality its because he doesn't have the stomach for the line of work
>Robotic AI that seeks to engage a worldwide network of flying amazon drones and eventually finds itself struggling to come to terms with the harsh reality of human existence that it discovers over the course of the game and eventually asks the player to end his existence by destroying all the backups the villains have of his mind and save him from a nightmarish life of knowing he will always be controlled by humans and used like a slave, you can also choose to let him live and face a robot boss that contains his final backup rather then a stealth mission to collect the harddrives that contain him
Nice argument.
Who’s she
who cares.
>proposed bringing back the massive income taxes on the rich that the US had around the time when it was "great"
but that made America worse. Reagan and now Trump have proven that tax cuts actually make the economy much better.
Gotta agree.
Perhaps the best option is to have a whole bunch of little nations, and let each rise and fall according to its own merits.
At least that way, if one system collapses, it's not the whole fucking world collapsing like it would be with this fucking global financial system.
Eventually we'll able to bio-engineer a better human being, or build an AI better able to make decisions, and get a better answer.
If you look at nature, though, I think we already have the answer.
There needs to be competition between organisms for those organisms to adapt. Organisms get old and die to make way for newer, better adapted organisms.
Any one global system you make would not have competition. It would not adapt. It would also not inherently age, but will just become more flawed over time as entropy works its way into the cracks.
It's not a pleasing solution, but "Keep fighting over the ideal system forever" is _A_ solution and it'll do.
>But in what way does Trump want to make America great again?
Bring back jobs which he was been doing in the rust belt.
Deport Illegals who lower the quality of life for the rest of us.
Stop going to war
Stop letting china, europe and Canada exploit our trade laws.
Pretty simple actually.
The left can't meme. Never could and never will be able to.
Where's the images of the manga muscle men with holes at the top of their heads. It was a video game too wast it?
and whats the problem?
Only reactionaries I see are the left who lose control at the thought of stopping the decay.
I like the way you think and am of the same mindset. Lets have sex.
>the metric used to determine number of illegals is at an all time low?
But that is wrong. They are at an all time high especially for 2019.
The wall is both necessary and justified and honestly it's already in place in most border towns.
>fascist attraction
really....
>rising income inequality,
That's a meme issue and not even a problem. It doesn't effect anyone. Wealth is created and one person having more doesn't prevent another from also having wealth.
There is nothing wrong with totalitarians in some cases its required as was in Spain and Chile.
Pass.
Sex between people of the SAME IDEOLOGY? But that would be ... forbidden bedfellows!
Add another to the get woke go broke list.
I for one do enjoy sticking my sweaty fascist dick inside hairy communist pussy.
Literally nothing wrong with fascism.
Oh m8, you got a loicense for that loicense?
Yup, there are fucking cameras that track over your face that tries to identify criminals and you aren't allowed to cover it, just like watch dogs
Hopefully there wont be anymore fake hipster hacker garbage bullshit that made me sick of watch dogs 2. I want a darker tone like the first game. Only thong the 2nd had going for it was more interesting mechanics.
tankiefag here
You're being overly literal here. It's like saying the hammer and sickle is just a shape. Technically true, but it misses the point.
Make America Great Again is just a generic slogan, but it's become the slogan for a political movement associated with the rise of the alt-right and anti-SJWs (although you and I could argue until the sun goes supernova about the minute differences between these terms and which individuals/ideas fit in each category). People associate MAGA with shit like Charlottesville, /pol/ tier edgeposting, the rise in hate crime, political polarization, etc.
"White Pride" isn't inherently inflammatory either, there's nothing wrong with being white, but White Pride movements are so heavily associated with violence and hatred that the term has taken on a new meaning
its a game nobody wants but a game that will sell decently just by nature the kind of game it is
ubisoft really knows how to check the boxes
>the rise in hate crime
Thats a myth.
>anti-SJWs
Everyone is anti-sjw.
>tankiefag
Figures after the shit you spewed. GO watch your tranny youtubers.
>political movement associated with the rise of the alt-right and anti-SJWs
There it literally nothing wrong with that.
#maga
>Because in the modern day the way it resonates has been significantly more reactionary than in the past, to the point it's taken on fascistic elements.
This is only what the left thing, To them everything is facist and nazi.
There is nothing about President Trump that is either. Not one person has yet to make the case.
>Now all that's left is a destructive strongman element which doesn't serve to improve your nation in any real way, but instead to dissolve dissonance, foster an attitude of anger and distrust
Thats nonsense, it's more important in the age of globalism than it has ever been before. When culture, identity and local industry are under attack it's become imo more important than in the past.
You've OD'd on bluepills my friend.
>Ignoring the fascist attraction of modern MAGA (which is there in the people who feel like they've lost status due to other people making gains and would like to roll those back.)
You keep calling it facist but you don't explain how. You just said "people losing status due to other people making gains" what does that even mean? In the eyes of the law everyone has been equal for some time. The Whole concept of MAGA is to resist the globalist movement and protect the interests of the nation.
>Thats a myth.
No, it's not, but I realize I'll never convince you because any source I show you will be disregarded as being an "elaborate kike scam" or some such other nonsense.
>Everyone is anti-sjw.
So there are no SJWs?
>GO watch your tranny youtubers.
futafag psychological projection hours
Trump isn't a fascist, but he is undeniably drawn towards autocrats (which is understandable, he's from the business world where nothing is run democratically), and a lot of his supporters undeniably hold views consistent with neo-fascism (disdain for ethnic/religious minority groups, disdain for immigration, support for private ownership of the means of production, etc)
What even is the "globalist movement"? It's one of those vague terms like "postmodernism" which seems to mean whatever's convenient at any given moment.
>I would never have said that, Hillary is only 1 step behind Trump
tankie detected.
>I would never have said that, Hillary is only 1 step behind Trump, the only and I do mean only thing she really has on him is the lack of using terms which are mired with the American fascist movements.
Maga is not fascist.
> Trump's done so far is help his mates make a bunch of money and stick everyone else with the bill 10 (well 8ish years now) down the line.
Based on what?
>views consistent with neo-fascism
>support for private ownership of the means of production
>America first was, and has been since the 40s a slogan used by American Fascists. You can't just pretend that it isn't.
They may have said it in passing but no it hasn't been a rallying cry for so-called "fascists" There aren't even any american fascist groups to speak of. Revisionism.
Fascists do support private ownership of the means of production. Unless they're nazbols or strasserists or something.
Was it though? I thought you were fighting some man-bun wearing tech mogul faggot
This is why the left loses any moral high ground. You can't genuinely debate ideas.
Neat premise for two reasons
-It's going to date the game to shit and make the people who made it look like alarmist tossers. I hope they go full-on deranged panic
-Britain is already Airstrip one, so just take the direction it's going and amplify it by ten.
I was insinuating how that's all it takes for you to consider somebody a fascist
Anyone else find it weird how Britain is freaking the fuck out over Brexit but have zero politicians who are calling for a stand-down of the police state and a reversion back to pre-9/11 politics in the face of increasing militarization of their police and runaway surveillance of their land?
You would think this discussion would be front and center, but instead it's if a trade policy will make the richest of the rich of their country a bit richer from free trade.
It's not, but that's a surprisingly big sticking point. It's one of the key reasons fascists oppose communists.
It's the difference between class being the most important characteristic, or race/nation being the most important characteristic.
>No, it's not, but I realize I'll never convince you because any source I show you will be disregarded as being an "elaborate kike scam" or some such other nonsense.
You're right because you'll post something from the ADL or SPLC that makes out any inter racial crime as a "hate crime" yet ignore the fact that Fake so-called hate crimes have substantially increased as well.
>So there are no SJWs?
Unfortunately no, they are a vocal minority but the general public is anti-sjw. There is no "both sides".
>and a lot of his supporters undeniably hold views consistent with neo-fascism
You don't understand what facism is then, what you listed (poorly) is held by a majority of Americans.
People have a disdain for illegals, people have a disdain for poor migrants.
> support for private ownership of the means of production
Well thats just common sense and the only way to do business.
>t's one of those vague terms like "postmodernism" which seems to mean whatever's convenient at any given moment.
aww the tankie gets triggerd by "postmodernism"
>globalist movement
Open borders, Open trade ect. ect.
Being a marxist I thought people like you would be against it as well?
Nice then the majority of the west is fascist and even communists like china it seems. This is why people make fun of the left. You spout nonsense.
Stop posting my wife you bastard
>It's one of the key reasons fascists oppose communists
everyone opposes communists and as others have said most people support the private ownership of the means of production. We've seen time and time again it's the best and most efficient way. If anything we should do it with education.
>If someone ran under MAGA and proposed bringing back the massive income taxes on the rich that the US had around the time when it was "great"
Watch out, we have a brainlet over here. The 90% income tax is a meme and the effective tax rate on the so called "1%" was only 42%, barely anyone even qualified for the 90% with most that did sought other avenues to avoid paying tax, like investing in war torn Europe instead.
As you can see here, 90% tax didn't actually increase the amount of revenue recieved, in fact on average the 1950s had slightly lower.
Holy shit it's real
There's a difference between two things you might be talking about.
There's what I'd call Marxist internationalism, basically the idea of breaking down national borders as communism spreads. Ethnicities still exist in a sense, but all communists are more or less on the same team.
And then there's globalization, which is shit like NAFTA and the TPP, and where borders are porous, but only because immigration can sometimes help capitalists because of cheap labor (think seasonal farm workers, the Guatemalans outside of your local Home Depot, etc)
China is pretty complicated. They have a lot of aspects of a market-based economy, but there's also a lot of state intervention, and the vague idea that at some undefined point in the future China will be sufficiently modernized, and the next step of communism can begin (google "Xi Jinping Thought" and "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics")
They also ignore the economic data of the fact that supply side economics has always created a stronger economy as a results of cuts. For example today we have the highest wage growth this century and GDP growth that shouldn't be happening in standard economic cycle. Reagan proved it in the 1980s and President Trump is proving it today.
seriously. what the fuck is postmodernism.
jordan peterson fans are always like "wow this creme brulee tastes pretty fucking postmodern", "hey, do you wanna skip geometry class and go postmodern behind the dumpster?", etc
From what I've been reading there is no main character you play as the NPCs in the game.
I really want a hapa gf bros
But it blows out your entire thinking that "private ownership of production is fascism" I mean you've proven you throw the word around like you don't understand what it means so there is no sense in trying to backtrack.
>china and japan are neo-fascist
>jordan peterson fans are always like "wow this creme brulee tastes pretty fucking postmodern", "hey, do you wanna skip geometry class and go postmodern behind the dumpster?", etc
that sounds like something from one of your tranny youtubers would say.
>western AAA games
Xe's a tankie, don't bother.
He’s not, tankies are all about soviet dun nothing wrong what holodomor. Him labeling nationalist ideas as neo fascist flies in the face of what Soviet rule was.
Didn't say that, I said that fascists believe in private ownership of the means of production, which they do.
So do social democrats, for the most part. So do libertarians. So do ancaps.
It's just that like 75% of the traditional fascist talking points boil down to "fuck these minority groups", "autocracy is okay sometimes" and "don't let the commies steal my shit".
Those are also beliefs held by MAGA guys.
The redpill is actually that you are correct, the rich need to be taxed and are in fact the ones making life hard for the average person. However most people who realize this are too stupid to recognize how they're doing so. Open borders and mass immigration are in fact only happening because they benefit rich people and huge corporations by lowering the price of labor and increasing the value of assets (by introducing lots of people who have no assets). So where does that leave us? A left who is in bed with the rich doing their bidding, giving them access to tons of low cost labor and a right with no spine that won't do anything against rich people because muh free market. That's why this argument against trump for being a """fascist""" is used. They want to scare libertarian types away by claiming he is an autocrat. He is doing what needs to be done, what both the right and left are unwilling to do because they are cowards or in the pocket of huge corporations. The left politically also directly benefits from the arrangement as immigrants will vote for them in the first generation, then when they have kids and the kids vote right they need to import more labor and on and on. It's a big pyramid scheme.
>Those are also beliefs held by MAGA guys.
and a majority of people around the world.
nice backtracking.
You know if they wanna make a political statement I don't fucking care, but can they not make it so fucking literal. Whatever happened to at least making it appear like a world that is not ours so it doesn't feel like getting hit with a shovel. WD1 at least tried to make it a little subtle as to what the bad guys were representing.
