Neo Yea Forums will defend anything

Luckily it doesn't ban based gacha games so I don't care

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it's called being a human being, OP. we can be inconsistent when our base ideas allow bullshit like lootboxes to happen. stop being an NPC nigger

the bill

I will defend lootboxes over the autistic screeching of commie and neo Nazi retards who own no capital and hate America.

Gamboling is not capitalism. It takes advantage of human vices.

Shouldn't you be sucking penises for virtue points?

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Damn you Bill!

So is alcohol and prostitution not capitalism? Kill yourself commie. Come back to me when you actually own capital and we'll see if you still like the idea of restricting businesses.

Once again, you're retarded if you oppose this

You are un-American if you support this.

Who is your Witcher waifu???

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Not really

Don't want the state to interfere with your business? Fine, but give up your copyright protection first.

Nah, pic related is how to be American.
Not having support for the Lootbox Bill is the most Chinese thing you can do, and that's un-American.

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>8 core cpu
>32gb ram
>256gb/1gb ssd
This means nothing whatsoever.
Also, what cooling capabilities does either option have?
What PSU?
This is a dumb fucking picture that is normalfag bait.

not defending the mac, it’s just a shit comparison that belongs on facebook

This. But the corporations will suffer. Oh no.

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Actually China is ccurrenly doing a better job at capitalism than America and its because of bullshit like this.

>mouthbreathers too stupid to realize that AO rating on gachagames means all those godtier artists can now be commissioned to do full lewds on rare cards
>profits up 5000% despite losing underage audience
jews are surprisingly stupid and unadaptive.

Appleshit always releases with outdated components and always had the shittiest of temp control with throttling being a common feature. So it's not much of a bait.

As someone who's never played the games, I can give the impartial view that the best three are Anna Henrietta, Sasha, and Iris

>’murricans still pretending government bans on things they don’t like are unamerican when they have a long history of banning things and European immigrants profiting off those bans by providing them illegally

>At least it’s not the government
>Oh wait it still is

Unrestrained capitalism is garbage, history has vindicated that

COMMIE AND NEO NAZI RETARD WHO HAVE NEVER HAD A BUSINESS OR OWN CAPITAL PLEASE FUCKING DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIVES BEFORE YOU TRY AND DESTROY OUR ECONOMY YOU INBRED LAZY FUCKS.

>politicians doing something right for a change
>republicunt, of all people
We live in strange times.

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We have this thread everyday.

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Nice try, I'm not a retard libertarian either.

SUPERIOR KOREAN PLAYER, ALWAYS SUCKY SUCKY GIRL MILK
INFERIOR OP, ALWAYS SUCKY SUCKY DICK MILK
ANY QUESTION?

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why is owning capital relevant to the worth of someone for you

Okay. Ban is still gonna happen though

Finally American made video games will have to rely on actual story or actual gameplay as selling points rather than whales.

Because he’s an investor that wants to keep his nest egg valuable

53 get

if Yea Forums defends anything, why don't they defend lootboxes and gacha

>conjecture
>not bait
Come on, user.

Also the old mac pros were great, which this is clearly an attempt to bring back.
You’d have to be a literal drooling restarted to think that a standard form factor desktop case with upgradeable components is going to throttle and have bad cooling because non upgradeable tiny laptops and all-in-one monitors have them.
This is some born-in-2000s newfag shit.

Imagine unironically being ancap

$5999 for a cheese grater?

thank fucking goodness. I want corporate America on a tight leash so fucking bad. They deserve every bit of this.

Sounds like an Apple product alright

Ancap? I am a good old fashioned "neo-liberal" buddy. Because I actually make money and own shit. Try it.

What does bipartisan support mean?
Please no bully.

Nah, i'm going to think it because the last "Pro", the Trashcan Pro, was a housefire inducing pile of throttling dogshit which also came with broken badly soldered AMD graphical chipsets.
Days of Apple quality checking are long gone.

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well, they specialize in fruits, so this is the best they could do

Reminder that any pro lootbox fags in these threads are AAA publisher shills.

Fuck off and die.
Hopefully you'll all get fired soon.

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Corporate America treating civilians like livestock deserves to be met with contempt and rejection. Bootlickers like you deserve the rope.

Shills are so fucking desperate that they're trying to pin this on commies AND nazis.

Good lord, imagine actually defending lootboxes even if you're paid for it.

Corporate shills will defend anything. Fuck Activision, fuck EA, fuck Ubisoft, fuck all of them.

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I can't believe Yea Forums is honestly defending lootboxes.

hope he knows we commies are going to void his nest egg in the new world

>Because I actually make money and own shit.
Including your virginity.

Ahahaha no. I would never get in this business. Its a bubble. Look at the autism of their consumers. I just don't want this kinda cancer spreading.

>rare cards
R-RARE PNGs?!

Both parties

Yea Forums:
>Fuck corporations like EA and Bethesda, they make only shit games
>The free market will regulate itself, no government intervention needed
>Vote with your wallet!
>Blame the retarded parents who let their kits buy this shit.

Also Yea Forums:
>OMG GIBERMENT PLS HALP
>NOW EA AND BETHESDA WILL GO BANKRUPT, NO MORE FALLOUT AND ELDER SCROLLS GAMES REEEEEEEEEE
>FUCK CONSUMER SHEEPS FOR BUYING LOOT BOXES

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DEFEND THIS

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Disenfranchising the jewiness in gaming is the only path.

your kind is ending

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>the free market will regulate itself
said nobody ever. Try reading upton sinclair's the jungle. That's what we get with no government regulation.

Woah Hermione likes GoT?

>Neo-Liberal
Good fucking goy

>NOW EA AND BETHESDA WILL GO BANKRUPT, NO MORE FALLOUT AND ELDER SCROLLS GAMES REEEEEEEEEE
said the shills

But it's just cosmetic
Loot boxes don't effect game design at all

I literally have a 19 year old girl living with me because of my success. I don't get why you morons don't want money. It will give you anything you want in the world. Fucking cucks.

Pic related is OP.

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Anyone against this probably either is making money that way or is ignorant and upset at the notion of politics touching video games despite the fact this is a clear example where some kind of regulation is needed. Especially since ‘voting with your wallet’ has proven capable of making a game sink but still not change the behaviors of devs.

Can you guys believe it, the new form of gambling that flew under the radar so far will finally be subject to gambling laws.
Will the government stop at nothing?

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ok

>NOW EA AND BETHESDA WILL GO BANKRUPT, NO MORE FALLOUT AND ELDER SCROLLS GAMES REEEEEEEEEE
Good fucking riddance

Was she a virgin?

Did she just blow you in the shower and shit was so cash?

Let me know.

It's the attempt by corporations to nickel and dime their customer's that's wrong. How it's implemented is of no consequence.

Does that conspiracy protect you from your empty bank account and dry dick? You are as empty-headed and lazy as the commie you hate. Can't eat to watch you kill each other.

Unregulated free market leads inevitably to monopoly and exploitation of the people through an inexorable imbalance of power and information.

Companies don't even have to tell you what their profit margins are on the things you buy from them. The customer knows practically NOTHING about the products they're buying and this is supposed to be considered "fair trade".
The original concept behind capitalism came about when the buyer could reasonably know whether or not they were getting a good deal because it wasn't that hard to know how much most goods cost back then.
However modern times, mass production and digital goods changed all of that and with no changes to legislation this has led to a broken system where the merchant holds all of the cards and the buyer holds none.

It's not the change I would propose to create a working capitalist system but it's better than nothing. Fuck lootboxes.

I guarantee I have more assets than you and even I'm not a braindead thirdway fag. Liberalism is a failed ideology that constantly falls to fascism in times of crises, then cycles back to liberalism, and fails again. This cycle is the last however, climate change will see the end of all ideology.

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a bunch of NEETs shitting on a machine meant for actual work? whoda thunk?

>Unregulated free market leads inevitably to monopoly and exploitation of the people through an inexorable imbalance of power and information.
spoken like a true leftist

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No she was a slut, why would I want a sugarbaby who can't satisfy me?

How does that boot taste?

He's also correct, you bootlicking cuck.

Fascists and commies will kill each other while I laugh. GL buddy. :)

How does the corporate dick feel in your ass?

The only bootlickers are the ones defending lootboxes.

If that's the issue, then if people are dumb enough to pay for it why shouldn't companies be able to offer it?

I am the boot, faggot.

That posting style seems awfully familiar. Dominic, is that you?

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t.

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>OP mentions market-related stuff
>/neo-pol/ instantly seethes and tries its hardest to protect its ancap / lolbertarian views and believes

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Applefags btfo.

Their customers are largely children, which makes it exploitation.

out of the corner of my eye i thought this was a Jerma thread

>that schlotz
I dont give a shit what this kike said

oof

Are fucking retarded, I just said why. Because companies shouldn't be able to nickel and dime their customers. They need to be held on a short leash in order to ensure that all of their actions contribute to the betterment of society, and not just lining the pocketbook of their investors.

thread derailers just dont work like they used to huh?

adam ROLLING in his grave over the modern world

>and believes
as expected of an retarded tranny

>Literal who says thing

Lol the state or poorfags. You are the ones that we need to remove room our country. At least the spices work themselves hard, are happy for what they get and don't bitch and moan because they know what a country without beaitoful liberal capitalism is like. :^)

he kind of laid the ideological ground work for the modern day economic system.

EA can finally die. What a time to be alive.

>he kind of laid the ideological ground work for the modern day economic system.
oh so its HIM who we have to thank for all these lobbyists and gay ass corporations ruling our country

And how is that any better than posting a random tweet?

>trying to educate gamers who literally are communists or fascists almost universally.

Its what we call a waste of time.

In this debate, I would be considered more of a centrist than anything.
Communism doesn't work because giving too much power to one group (the government) leads to exploitation of the people through an inexorable imbalance of power and information too.

The main difference is that Communist systems become exploitative and despotic much more quickly because the power is concentrated instantly by the edict of law. Unregulated capitalist systems simply take longer for the power to concentrate to a sufficient level for exploitation and despotism to occur, however if we don't enact the needed changes this system WILL inevitably lead to the same end point as all those communist dictatorships.

The best system is a balanced hybrid system that disperses power, finances and information as evenly as possible among the people, rather than concentrating it to a small group. To accomplish this requires a balance of government and free market that has not yet been achieved in any society.

its more of a perversion of that ground work done by the bourgeoisie in the interests of accruing more power and wealth rather than adam's fault specifically.

I like lootboxes

to be fair, the corrupt pigs would have found another way to do it even without him like the slime they are

Give corporations free reign and you get bullshit like a 90+ year old work of art that somehow still isn't public domain.

well, its like if a random tweet got taken really seriously and drove peoples ideas of how humans should organize themselves. its different from a random tweet in that it is way more relevant historically than any old literal who.

Rolling!

are you talking about pic related?

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Been PC master-race since 1992 and I am highly suspect of the price of the 2nd computer. Unless the parts are nothing but chinese garbage bought in quantities of thousands at a time, and even then it's pretty sketchy.

no, they will both kill you first, read a history book you retarded boomer

surface.syr.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?filename=11&article=1016&context=books&type=additional

This law only hits big corporations who deserve it. One new good law in a thousand and contrarians try to jump on it to defend. Piss off. Laws that hurt small and medium sized companies, individuals or the general public with dumb shit are bad. This law is 100% focused on containing the Jew, well at least this explains the shilling a lot.

Fuck yes.

Tick tock, EA.

The issue is while anyone can gamble and potentially profit off it lootboxes are pushed onto the consumer only by the developers of a game usually in a way that guarantees no chance of monetary return or profit to the individual. Essentially you could argue one was even duped into gambling if one was entirely unaware of the gambling aspects upon purchase of the game. It’d be like if you bought a baseball ticket and had to play rock paper scissors with a bunch of dudes to get a seat and also the people that bought multiple tickets have a better shot at getting a decent seat.

what about a communist society that takes into account all of the flaws you've mentioned with stalinist countries and heavily limited the power of government or decided to axe government altogether
would that satisfy constraints? my ideal communism is one that has all of those positive attributes in your third paragraph. but it is a much trickier balance in reality than my head i imagine.

Unions have no one to blame but themselves by becoming vehicles for social leftism rather than actually defending workers rights. All the big unions in Britain are run by unironic communist dinosaurs that repel both the public and apolitical workers.

The one on the bottom is better for work than the one on top tho. It has higher multi core performance and is better for video rendering due to the vastly superior vega card. You seething applefags just never give up do you.

Capitalism is the best and most moral economic model. Vice is immoral and degenerate, therefore anti-capitalist. Jesus was the first capitalist.

Agreed. There's no brand names. No speeds. No motherboard. no power supply. no storage hard disk. no cooling details. no specifications on fucking anything, no mention if it's new/used components. etc etc.

Not defending apple. But this comparison is bullshit. Any respectable computer with quality parts that will last you more than 5 years (with 1 graphic card upgrade at the 2.5 year mark) is going to cost over $2200. Anything less is just money in the trash.

>hating on Beauty and the Beast
kill yourself faggot

I like Aladdin

I also like how you excluded The lion King or The Nightmare Before Christmas both of which are as conservative as anything in the top half of the list

>climate change will see the end of all ideology.

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I really need to actually play 3.

communism is literally a society without a central government, it's comes from the words commune, which are groups of communities working towards an agreed goal, a central government cannot exist in such a society. A government that owns everything with commodity production is state capitalism. A socialist society exists with a government where businesses are run and owned by their workers, the government may or may not own property in such a society.

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This isn't about journalists so much as 'creative types' in general. Go visit an art college and you'll get the idea. Journalists are usually 'creative types' that take useless writing classes. All of those types tend to be unstable and unrooted. Not remotely logical,

5 times in fact all with the same exact op

Good. More chances to mock EA.

a union is as good as its membership, maybe you and others should join them and kick out the shitty leaders just like any democracy instead of just bitching about it

Do you enjoy warring bands of neighbors?

Because that's what happened to parts of the land in Russia which was farther along in Siberia
That entire area become under Mafia rule, it's also what happened during the roaring 80's and 90's of Russia where government power was as it's peak corruption level and very weakened to the point where most regular citizens didn't care about breaking the law so most people had to walk around strapped with 9mm

American communists don't seem to realize that the strong rule the weak

Isn't Oni Chichi that one about the father drugging and raping his 2 underage daughters until they beg for more?

>A socialist society exists with a government where businesses are run and owned by their workers, the government may or may not own property in such a society.
Surely nothing could ever go wrong here.

as she said, strengthening family bonds.

C'mon, 85!

>The means of production are controlled by the workers

No they're still controlled by the capitalists, who do you think sells and redistributes the products that are created by workers user?

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My wife is a bookworm and she said the show deviates from the books just enough to keep it interesting for people that have read the books. It's not a direct port, you could say.

>corporate america treating americans like livestock
That's literally what this bill does though.
>people are too stupid to make their own decisions
>here, let's get big brother to remove the choice entirely
>by the way we'll be raising taxes again to pay for this extra function
Good job, your vendetta against lootboxes is going to result in you paying money to keep stupid people from buying lootboxes.

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cope lmao

"To Children".
So loot boxes won't be removed from games like that are M rating and above.
This still won't stop kids from spending money because the problem was always the parents never looking after what their kids are playing.

Sorry shill, but not even Yea Forums will be contrarian enough to defend lootboxes

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> bookworm
> for reading got

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The vega card can't edit 3 8k videos in realtime, did you even watch the demonstration

Apple pro has a "Afterburner" card specifically for speeding up video editing

>That's literally what this bill does though
That's what corporations are doing. The bill is just putting a stop to an unacceptable practice.

>as important
>mentions two things that aren't important if you have a good story
>irony: focusing on diversity is the number one indication of an absolute failure of a story
The fucking state of """""game"""""-developers.

I'm an ancom that can read theory and wants to change this shit society for its flaws yet I also understand how it works, including monetary policy, trade agreements, market influences, and I can read an earnings report. Stop assuming twitter and larping faggots are the only or largest demographics.

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Should have just taxed the hell out of them like tobacco and liquor. Or, in Chicago's case, "amusement tax". Might as well make some money if you're already doing shady shit anyway.

Do you retard understand that at least 20% of people ARE to retarded to make these decisions for themselves. They're destroying the economy and hurting everybody in the process.

the workers, have you never heard of a Co-op my dude?

>Capitalism is essentially wasteful: Commodities are produced because they can be sold, not because they're needed.
OH NO NO NO READ MISES AND HAVE SEX

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Why can't the government intervention be seen as the consumers taking matters into their own hands and bitching at their representatives to put a cap on companies' jewery?

17=minor according to federal law, sorry.

I have more books in my house than you had in your inner-city school, faggot. Fucking zoomer probably hasn't even seen a hardback book outside of his 'applied math' school book.

McConnel is never going to bring this up for a vote anyways

To be fair is that actually wrong?

Americanized freedom comes from the fact that they have unlimited wealth to throw around at unlimited products.
That's why most american's always deal in excess.
Excess Guns/Food/Clothes/Food/Video games/Food.

And it's been that way for so long that most American's don't know any other way of living
But the fact is that resources and products aren't unlimited, and giving your citizens unlimited wealth means your wealth actually gets limited fairly fast

What are they to do at this point?
If they don't ban it, the poor become poorer which leads to more wealth redistribution in welfare which they don't have

It's sad to say that American's are essentially Cattle.

>choice vs no choice
>having choice is what you do to livestock
Hurrr

>it doesn't count because X people ARE cattle!
HURRRRR

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That's Space Ghost though.

it's worked many times until they're destroyed generally by the CIA or fascist groups, its working right now with the zapitistas and rojava as well as smaller scales in many nations, perhaps you should look into the Mondragon corp for a non-society based example

as a person who lives in this shit state, that turtle man better do his goddamn job or I will be forced to feel even worse about living here.

>$2200
maybe if you live in Canada

That chart is a fucking train wreck. None of the years line up. Also, it takes at least 2 years before the actions of any party take effect. ie: Clinton's policies wouldn't have started to show an affect until 1994 at the very earliest. Usually it takes 4-6 years to see a real change. 2 years is being very generous.

my perfect communism is the one where Stalin kills all commies and not just a lot of commies

the dude is like 500 years old, he doesn't even know what a "lootbox" is

He only kills things that would help minorities or hurt trump. Unless Sony/Microsoft/EA place a large deposit in a bank account it's going through like a normal bill.

No, I've heard of
>Give me bribes so you get more things in our mafiaso corrupted system

Unlike you, my family actually lived through communism
It's still that way today
If I want a passport done quick, I have to bring a bottle of champane or some vodka drink or just straight up money because that's "courtesy" otherwise my application gets """"lost"""" for weeks to months on end because our systems of bureaucracy are fucked

Actual workers don't do shit because workers are retards user, just like you

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For a second i thought that was a cheese grater and you're just joking. Jesus christ.

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How much are they paying you to post this repeatedly?

you honestly, unironically believe that EA doesn't pay off politicians on a regular basis? they are the very definition of a scumbag company, that's probably their first reaction when they see something like this, "I wonder who I can bribe to make it go away", not "I wonder how I can make my games better"

Corporate shill detected

This is my PC I built around 1 year ago. It costed $2300 parts+tax not including monitor/keyboard/etc. And the parts aren't even premium. Good computers are not cheap.

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>why can't something be seen as something it's not
CONSUMERS taking matters into their own hands is LOOTBOX CONSUMERS NOT CONSUMING LOOTBOXES ANYMORE. You're doing the exact same thing SJWs do, loudly protesting for games you don't even buy and don't intend to buy to pander to your ideological vendetta. Nice job validating the strategy and the bell curve faggots, you are literally contributing to the destruction of west by being so fucking gullible and ignorant of how your own economy works, and letting sleazebags in congress destroy your own self interest for the sake of virtue signaling to their voters.

this is the ugliest apple design I have ever seen

I'd rather be a "commie" who doesn't suck corporate cock to the point of feeling obligated to defend any of their cancerous business decisions and their wars that don't benefit us in the slightest, it only benefits their pockets. Being American doesn't mean you have to defend any bad thing entities and authorities in your country have done either.
I would also like to ask how your faggot ass can be anti-American process yet present yourself as more pro-American at the same time.

You treat capitalism like religion. there is nothing inherently righteous or beyond reproach about capitalism.
Making money at all =/= defacto capitalism either, that's merely corporate Wallstreet narrative.

You are going to otherwise have to explain to the Kochs that the fortune their family made in the Soviet Union (and initially left the US for because they couldn't make enough money in the *land of opportunity*, due to US patent trolling.), apparently doesn't exist.

you suck the party cock instead, and you end up dead on a mass grave if you dont do it properly, good job

>scarcity doesn't exist
>Americans have unlimited wealth
>American's are essentially cattle
Congrats Yea Forums, this is the person whose ideology you've implemented directly into law. The west is saved!

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>government regulations BAD

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Fun Fact: Intellectual Property isn't capitalism. In a free market """"""""piracy"""""""" would be legal and recognized as constitutionally protected.

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So yeah. M-A games unaffected
E-T still under the bill.
Which doesn't matter because Kids still play M-A games because Parents are neglectful.

Retards are cattle. There are people out there who don't actually buy lootboxes you know.

What party cock, faggot? Dead in graves by who? According to who? More Wallstreet revisionism?

these kind of images are kind of lootboxes themselves

>M games are unaffected
17 year olds are legally children.

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>some people behave cattle
>so let's create a law affecting all people on the premise of being like cattle
>legal precedent now set that all people are fair game to be treated as cattle on a legislative basis
But corporations are the ones enslaving us. Honk honk!

Whilst true, for every 1 person who has self control and doesn't impulsively purchase things, there are 3 spics and niggers and zoomers who don't

That's sort of the problem with this
>Free market means that if a product is bad people will stop buying it
Because that's not the case when you specifically indoctrinate children through most of their early life with the ability to pressure them into specific group think

Why do you think V-bucks are the biggest thing in the world ATM?
Social proof and not being on the latest thing is what a corporation does best to invoke even if the product is subpar

We like to think our choices matter, but in the grand scheme of things the majority of people will always go towards what other people do as opposed to what they decide for themselves.

That's the harsh reality of the 21st century

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>capitalist nations
>advanced technology and innovation
>can defend themselves from foreign threat
>zapitistas and rojava as well as smaller scales in many nations
>exist at the mercy of the legitimate government and benevolence of larger nations
>no innovation
>as poor as the lower classes of a capitalist society without the middle and upper classes
>you should look into the Mondragon corp for a non-society based example
>the only unusual thing is that workers with equity vote on a wage ratio between management and labor
>non equity employees don't get a say

Except that no amount of pretty words can change the fact that the only way to facilitate a communist society is through laws and the only way to ensure even and fair distribution of resources without leading to free market capitalist concepts is giving a governmental body the power to control all of those resources in order to distribute them.

It's very easy to say "a communist society is run by the people, there is no central government", but that ideal collapses very quickly under the harsh gaze of reality and you're left with the communist dictatorships we've already seen.
Socialism has similar, but slightly different issues but the main problem is the same, some form of government is required in any system where resources need to be distributed and such governments have immediate access to all of the power since they control all of the resources.

I get that the IDEAL of these systems is different to this, however the reality has never matched the ideal and we have multiple independent examples to work from for demonstrating that.

rollarooney

explain why

What happens to impulsive buying retards? They spend their money on stupid shit, they run out of money, they make bad decisions and that keeps them from making more money. Darwin is proven right again and society evolves.

What kind of things get impulsive retards disproportionately large amounts of money?
>affirmative action
>equality-of-outcome based policy
>safety nets
These are the real enemy. Either you let the children of others be burned by the stove their mother left on, or you give government the excuse to create a padded wall society with you footing the bill.

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Nigger alcohol is already restricted because you can't sell this minors and prostitution is flat out illegal in many states, you mouth breathing clown.

>why can't something be seen as something it's not
Why is it not though, you still haven't explained why?

Whilst I agree that the weak should die out, the truth is that we live in a globo homo control where free gibs rule the world
The current American system is one of perpetual gdp growth and the only way to stop it from collapsing in on itself is to keep the gibs flowing otherwise
>Uh oh we don't give out gibs and now niggers are burning down our infastrcture

It's a zero sum game sadly

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>drug dealer comes to town; free to deal
>gets most people addicted to his drugs
>leaves after he sells his wares
>has deprived the town of its accumulated wealth
>has deprived the town of its able-bodied workers
>addicts vote on welfare policies to keep themselves alive; lazy faggots exploit this new voter base to get as many entitlements as they can

>"W-well the addicts and lazy faggots shouldn't be able to vote, only smart people like me should govern!"
A smart leader would have shot the drug dealer as soon as he stepped in town

Honestly kinda torn about this whole ordeal. Ive always hated lootboxes and how modern AAA game companies have treated their customer base, but i dont know if i want the government banning them.
I know the "slippery slope" is a logical fallacy and touted by nuthead conspiracy theorists, but i really do worry that this will lead to governments putting further regulations on video games and other media. Plus, once lootboxes are banned, companies will just find another way to make their micro transaction money.

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Loot boxes did not affect me directly because I do not buy them.
They affected me indirectly in that many games I may have liked to play I did not because of loot box shenanigans.
So I guess I saved money over all.

But to let government stick it's dick into videogames? Those slimy motherfuckers will find a way to fuck over the American people with this shit. Mark my words. It's the only thing they are good at.

>"If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. Its peculiar character, too, is that no one possesses the less, because every other possesses the whole of it. He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. That ideas should freely spread from one to another over the globe, for the moral and mutual instruction of man, and improvement of his condition, seems to have been peculiarly and benevolently designed by nature, when she made them, like fire, expansible over all space, without lessening their density in any point, and like the air in which we breathe, move, and have our physical being, incapable of confinement or exclusive appropriation. Inventions then cannot, in nature, be a subject of property." -Thomas Jefferson

Ideas, inventions, art, and other intellectual creations are not an abstract singular entity, they are something simply incredibly easy to replicate. Intellectual property cannot function in any way that adheres to the understanding of the word "property", but rather by keeping people from creating something from their own knowledge and property, it is literally a monopoly (the term "patent" originated from the monarchies issuing monopolies) dressed in a way to trick idiot boomers into thinking it is part of- not an enemy of- individual property rights.

Even the founding fathers understood this. There are letters where they directly refer to patents as monopolies interchangeably. It was theorized that it was better for the sciences for them to exist, so they implemented as they weren't entirely capitalist in ideology.

BOOT LICKERS OF THE GOVERMENT WILL GET THE CHOPPER.

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And the bill says up to 17,
So M unaffected.

Gambling is already regulated by governments, so pissy libertcucks like you getting triggered is hilarious

>boohoo I can't gamble any more sadface :(

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>surely nothing could ever go wrong

This isn't an argument. You could easily flip it and say the same thing and it'd be just as valid.

>a government where business is private free from government influence, landlords are completely private and free of control

'nothing could go wrong here tho

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>Implying you won't be the first.
The oven is coming, and you won't stop it. just like no amount of money will help your bald head

>buying and fucking fucking consuming unknown substances from someone with an unknown background
Sounds like natural selection to me mate. Human beings do not need to consume very many things to survive, you have to fuck up pretty hard to take poison in the process. Idiots will always be deprived of their money for idiotic and self destructive reasons no matter what you do. Society is better off not burdening the capable portion with the dead weight that nature itself intends to die off.

[citation needed]
The original quote was "to children", which includes 17 and thus M rating. You're the first person to claim that "up to 17" was specified anywhere.

Why does a cheese grater have 32GB of RAM?

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Hey. I don't have excess guns. I have what I need.

I need a handgun
Then I need a PCC
Then I need an AR-15 because 'murika
Then I need a precision shooter
Then I need a revolver
Then I need a lever gun to cowboy it up
Then I need a shotgun
Then I need another shotgun just a different kind
Then I need concealed carry
Then I need another another handgun but in a different caliber

I'm set. I could probably use a couple more .22 too because well.. those are just a ridiculous amount of fun.

Up to 17 includes 17, ESL. That's why it would be "up to" and not "below".

>actual work
>businesses upping expenses at the price of profit
you don't do actual work

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>gameplay is not important
>doesn't know the difference between good and realistic graphics
>muh story
based retard

I’m confident your conclusions are the result of a lifetime of researching social ineptitude and being unwanted

I doubt it makes games better. If it somehow makes games worse than they already are then fuck me and this hobby.

Yet the M rating says 17 and up so it doesn't.

THIS ISN'T EVEN MY FINAL FORM

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>a government where business is private free from government influence, landlords are completely private and free of control
Nobody proposes this or claims it exists.

Yeah that's what I'm saying. This nigger posts this thread over and over. Literal corporate shill.

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Being honest, this bill will never pass. I would love to be proven wrong but it is not happening.

See the problem is that free market self-regulations don't work when you have investors/stock holders who decide their bad ideas can dictate how companies operate
They see the profits made by garbage phone games due to microtransactions and think the same success can be replicated in the triple a game market and refuse to buy the idea that the money GTA Online generated is the exception, not the rule
So now we need Government regulation to put this shit down

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>The fucking state of """""game"""""-developers.
Here's a salve for your wounds

gamedaily.biz/article/910/casual-connect-indie-development-is-stagnant-says-braid-creator-jonathan-blow

>Blow certainly seems wary of games that are made to serve a subject matter first, rather than designing a gameplay system that ties in with a theme. “The material of games, like interactivity, is its own topic”, he insisted. “You end up jamming things together that don’t really fit. I think that’s what most people who try to be creative end up doing.

>“I use other mediums as a reality check,” he explained. “If you read novels, you know how good stories can be, and you probably know where game stories land on that quality bar. If you’ve seen film, you know how good some kind of non-verbal communication can be. You watch, especially, directors who do long shots that are not boring, somebody like Tarkovsky or David Lynch. You can learn things by looking at any medium, but then you have to go back to your own work and ask yourself ‘Am I doing the games version of whatever these other things are doing?’ I’m not trying to do long cinematic shots [in a game] because those are always terrible, but are you doing something that’s as interesting? The answer is usually not quite, because it’s hard, but it’s a good way to keep yourself honest and working hard.”

>Just don’t expect to see one of Blow's games with story cutscenes any time soon. “I’m soundly on the gameplay side,'' he admitted. “That’s the place that is the most sophisticated and interesting, and isn’t just a copy of what we see in other media. It’s a place where we’re making our own progress.”

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Not him, but you can still get the hardware required for work related stuff for 1/6th the price.

>effecting some cocksucker CEO's scam bonuses = "effects all people"......
>sheep apparently demand gambling trash be treated as such......
How many shekels are they tossing your way, sheep intern? Only sheep think that voting with your wallet works on the whale model, that model is prioritized because they don't have to worry about most of the customers not purchasing that crap, they only need enough whales to profit, as the gambling shit cost nothing to implement.

>the working day is determined by the workers
how the hell did they thought this could work even for a second

>there is complete transparency of transaction between two parties
Literally fiction, and ancap encourages further deception to occur, as it is necessary to sell the product.
>Society is better off not burdening the capable portion with the dead weight that nature itself intends to die off.
>bad actor annihilates a formerly productive society
>"Heh, they deserved to be deceived since they aren't omniscient"

"Up to 17" is synonymous with =17, both include 17-year-olds, ergo M rated games are included in the bill.

Your pilpul sucks.

That’s a critical flaw throughout the entire system. People want to think the boom is the standard, and the bust is just a glitch

Gimme one

sounds almost as crazy as our current situation

Checked

and so is prostitution in many countries

liberturdians are gonna be on the wrong side of history on this one. maybe they should instead focus on more important things like internet privacy and drone strikes instead of whining like baby cucks about gambling

>$1,000 for an even less ergonomic monitor arm

Affecting CEO boni directly would be to tax them specifically. Instead you took the tyranny route and made it illegal for free citizens to buy loot boxes. Congrats on contributing to the destruction of the west, hopefully you'll die horribly and your female family are made sex slaves when the economy collapses.

Don't buy and consume shit if you don't know what's in it. Is that so hard to understand? Surely you can wait a week to see if the new McBurger is causing people to fucking hallucinate.

>pilpul
I'm pretty sure you're a moron and only believe you are right because you used an uncommon word in a sentence.

fuck yeah rolling
60 get pls

>gambling is not capitalism
Imagine being this fucking barbarically ignorant. Literally all life is a gamble of opportunity if not outright wealth. Gambling businesses simply offer people a gamble on demand in exchange for rates that favor the house.

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I'm pretty sure you're a sore loser with no argument.

Well T is 13 and up so I guess it doesn't apply to T games either, or anything but EC.

There is literally nothing wrong with eliminating loot boxes.

>vote with your wallet
>just don't buy it
Lootboxes ruin the progression of games even if you don't buy them. Everything becomes a tedious treadmill because companies want you to spend money on them. Also your non purchase will be made up by whales.

>Don't buy and consume shit if you don't know what's in it.
>good actors can never turn into bad actors
>people can have perfect knowledge
>if you don't have perfect knowledge, don't make a transaction
Okay, so we're going to move back to being self sustaining primitives?
You're bringing society back farther than any of these regulation could.

this but season 4 is where the TV series ran out of source material.

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>The free market will regulate itself, no government intervention needed

Neoliberal meme, this has never and will never be true.

WILL EA DIE IN MY LIFETIME?

If the lootboxes you don't want "ruin the game" then don't buy the game. Don't try to make games you don't like illegal dumbass.

Rat turds being put into sausages is almost like DLC/loot crates/microtransactions being put into video games.

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>100 people work at an employee-owned factory 8 hours a day making widgets
>Advancing technology cuts work time in half
>100 people now work 4 hours a day

>100 people work 8 hours a day at Ford factory making Fords for Ford
>Advancing technology cuts work time in half
>50 people now work 8 hours a day making twice the widgets without any increase in salary.

How do those boots taste?

Then don't buy games with lootboxes, or better yet just don't play games at all and fuck off.

The show was fine through season 4, 5 is where it started to falter, and 7 is when it went to shit. 8 just made it so shit that it pissed off smoothbrains who watched it in bars.

There is no societal model that is immune to bad actors, there are only models that are better at mitigating their damage and dis-incentivizing the creation of more. Your argument is disingenuous.

If I make my own hours why would I bother coming to work?

Sounds like the work hasn’t actually become more valuable.

I'm not trying to make the games illegal. I'm saying that predatory gambling practices should be.
Enjoy your macrotransaction future. Give them an inch and they will take 5 miles.

I don't buy lootboxes, but the retards still do and its ruining the games for people like me that want nothing to do with that retarded practice.

You literally can't "vote with your wallet" when it comes to this kind of thing because they're targeting the 1% of people with bad impulse control and gambling problems, the 99% already vote with their wallet and its not enough.

>None of the years line up
Because it's a chart of economic expansions, which are not predictable in duration or frequency?

>Also, it takes at least 2 years before the actions of any party take effect. ie: Clinton's policies wouldn't have started to show an affect until 1994 at the very earliest. Usually it takes 4-6 years to see a real change. 2 years is being very generous.
You're right about this though. Which is why Trump is putting band-aids laced with poison on the economy right now, because he knows that he won't be reelected in 2020 but if the Dems have to deal with a recession in 2021, Republicans again will have the presidency in 2024 (around the time more Supreme Court judges die)

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>EA loses their licenses for sports games
>suddenly more developers can make sports games
>more options with better value for the customer because they have competition again
Why is this a bad thing?

Who cares, when I think of the games that earn the most from loot boxes I think of shit like CoD, overwatch, battlefield, csgo, dota 2, pubg, battlefront. I dont give a fuck how much money those games make, delete them and move cosmetic items back to gameplay related unlockables, that would be more fun.

>I'm not trying to make the games illegal. I'm saying that predatory gambling practices should be.
Which makes the games legal, ergo you're trying to make the games legal. You suck at pilpul and are boring me to sleep.

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Valve doesn't sell lootboxes so I'm fine with it

Better stay away if you have trypophobia

sure buddy, whatever you say, interesting how people who are old enough to remember living in the shitty "socialism" of the USSR miss it today, yet the young faggots like you who never did think it was worse.

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What’s so predatory about it, retard?

The older generation is more likely to pine for the poorly remembered past than the immediate present? Say it isn’t so.

Based

>banning lootboxes makes games illegal

based retard

whats the actual bill say though?

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m-muh free marget don't lige id don't by id hurrbrbrbrbrbr

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Under your belief system, there are no bad actors, simply people who deserve the results due to their imperfect humanity

It doesn't matter who wins at this point, electorial metagaming will destroy the country in our lifetimes either way. The democratic system is on its deathbed.

acquiring great and terrible magicks

they remember when everyone who wasn't a party officer was poor, now they are poor and there are people who are able to be richer than them. why would they be happy?

gib shani or yen

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I can't take anything regarding The Mask seriously anymore since I found out that one of my co-workers writes She-Mask fanfiction.

no one does real work on a mac

Gamers are mentally ill and should be treated like retarded kids and trannies are perfectly sane when they want to chop of their dicks off in public because thats totally sane and normal while gamers are sick and should be kept on a leash but not trannies because trannies are cool and sane not like gamers because gamers are insane and should be sent to asylums because they like playing games and not chop off their dicks or punch nazis because chopping off dicks and punching people for having dicks is perfectly sane and normal

yeees

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>OLD PEOPLE LIKE FREE SHIT AND DON'T LIKE PAYING FOR SHIT NOW

W O A H user
YOU DON'T SAY?!

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>CIA comes to town hot off their Vitenam and Iran/Contra drug dealing.
>ruin's communities yet again
>forms an entire industry out of "War on Drugs" to wet both sides of their beak.
Shooting a rando street dealer does nothing, shooting the American banks deliberately laundering the drug trade money in the first place, and offing the chiefs in the CIA, would have more of an effect.

fixedthat for you

loot boxes were never a good thing though.

I'll give it a whirl.

we need to put him down, im sorry..

FUCK OFF YOU TOOL!

american libertarians should be fucked rounded up, put into camps and worked to death.
stop shitting up the internet with your retardese

Keep crying commie

>If I want a passport done quick, I have to bring a bottle of champane or some vodka drink or just straight up money because that's "courtesy" otherwise my application gets """"lost"""" for weeks to months on end because our systems of bureaucracy are fucked
Sounds like a problem with Slavic culture, not a type of government.

>>Vote with your wallet!
vote with your wallet doesn't work when whales exist. i don't plan on ever going to vegas, but that doesn't stop helpless morons from unloading their life's savings at the casinos
>The free market will regulate itself
like having an infected wound and saying it'll heal itself

>just don't buy it

>other people still buy it
>the industry follows whatever trend makes the most money
>all games will decent budgets end up as shallow skinner box trash
>all that's left to play are games from decades ago and the occasional indie game that's not shit

How about fuck off? The only way to make video games good again is to force them by criminalizing the shit that makes them bad. First loot boxes, then consoles, then politics.

i want to be a punch wizard

>shitting on Kuzco
Faggot

>you see, the government WANTS fewer economic centers, because the poor labor economy of a prison system is more of an economic engine than new york!

>banning lootboxes doesn't make games containing lootboxes illegal

No, the market has mechanisms for dealing with bad actors. Killing customers reduces the number of customers you have, and creates a bad reputation for a product, creates market demand for services that verify the authenticity and safety of products, creates incentive for people to buy products from people and places they know IE local business, etc.

There are both people that make bad decisions, and victims of bad decisions and the market addresses both. Meanwhile equality of outcome/safety nets do not address the existence of people who make bad decisions, it claims everyone that fucks up their life is a victim, and creates monetary incentives to fail.

>Gender bender wizard
What's that? Does that mean I can cast a spell on someone and they will be the opposite sex? How much money do you think I could make with that? Do you think desperate I WISH I WERE A GIRL lonely neckbeards would cough up 500 bucks to be a girl? Then I'll charge 1k to turn them back once they realize they are a disgusting hambeast and the realize just how much periods suck.

it's already destroyed now with the sports-team mentality and popular personalities being focused on right now rather than policies. So far the only candidates talking policy are Sanders and Warren, everyone else, including Trump, are just attacking each other, all the shitlibs are shitting on Trump, Trump is shitting on shitlibs, winemoms are crying about berniebros, it's the usual bullshit. Until policy takes precedence over flair, democracy will end up collapsing.

>actual work
>apple
If that was the case, Boot Camp, Parallels, VMware Fusion, and their ilk wouldn't need to exist.

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1.Nations who used force you mean, they didn't depend on the invisible hand for success. It don't matter what economic model a nation is using, force is always a main decider. Dumb libertarians have always been wrong.

2.Pilferred technology from graves of invaded lands then rewrote them as their own inventions. Innovation spurred on by the likes of the less well-to-do, who were trying to come up with ways of improving their day to day lives, as aristocracy were less inclined to do, since they were already living quite comfortably and didn't want to spread that comfort to peasantry, less desperate work horses if you do that.
Innovation also spurred on by the Soviet competition which was kicking their ass in its prime before CIA and MI6 decided to exploit media indoctrination(Like how the Jews are now solely accused of.) with illegal fake news radio, propped up shills like Gorbechev and Yeltsin, and the very anti-market sanctions.

3.No, they make up foreign threats(cIaSIS) to make excuses for supporting invasions and the relinquishing of further rights of their own citizenry, Big Brother style. They salivate at monitoring and controlling your entire daily routine under the guise of "anti-terrorism" and "security".

Are you one of the "lel physical removal" fags, or an actual voluntaryist? If the latter then you're cool.

>i cast guilt
>i command you to give me your change

Go back to trannyera already

Its impossible to convince brainwashed retards like you

>Number 9
>Number 46

This is a shit wizard chart. Rollan.

>just don't buy it
>other people still buy it
>the industry follows whatever trend makes the most money
>all games will decent budgets end up as shallow skinner box trash
>all that's left to play are games from decades ago and the occasional indie game that's not shit
It's sad that we've reached a point where "STOP BUYING WHAT I DON'T LIKE" is literally Yea Forums's political stance. I'm going to optimistically believe you're just a naive zoomer and not someone so pathetic as to still have 2010-tier arguments as a grown adult.

I AM ANGRY ABOUT HISTORY

Soviet Union collapse was the worst thing to happen to Russia since WW2. Maybe if it was handled by competent leaders with Russia's best interests in mind it could have been a great thing, but it wasn't.

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Corporations work faster than governments. AAA game companies will find new ways to exploit the system to keep their investors happy, many of which are politicians themselves.

Someone's going to buy that 6K monitor for gaming without checking the specs first.

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Ok, how do you propose we fix the industry?

HE DOES IT FOR FREE OH NONO

>literal good goy
YIKES!

By not making video games illegal and letting the free market do its magic

this can't be real

boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/pujHWnxSPOMaf6BEUY_SEg/
BRUH LOOK AT THIS DOOD

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rollin for the 51

>actaul work

yeah I used that line too, now my boss approved the $1000 VESA stand

this

you are absolutely delusional.
90% of media is created on macs.
>t. video editor living in nyc

>letting the free market do its magic
that's how it got this bad to begin with

Swing and a miss.

>The one on the bottom is better for work than the one on top tho
Depends on the soft. I hate to be an apple apologist, but the upper one *can* run all three major OS, while the lower one most likely can't easily run MacOS.

>No, the market has mechanisms for dealing with bad actors.

>corporations put literal rat feces in sausages
It's not our job for the gubmint to police the noble corporations who are merely trying to make an innocent profit! Consumers will just boycott! The market self-regulates!

>consumers don't even know that rat shit is being put in their food
That's the gubmint's fault!

>Food and Drug Administration is created
Baahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh gubmint tyranny!

>FDA regulates and prevents corporations from putting rat shit in their food, and notifies consumers of when accidental contamination does happen
We must reduce the size of gubmint! It's too large now!

I sincerely wish people like you die, not out of malice, but for the good of humanity. You are simply too stupid to exist.

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rollo

>the market has mechanisms for dealing with bad actors. Killing customers reduces the number of customers you have, and creates a bad reputation for a product

businessinsider.com/nestles-infant-formula-scandal-2012-6

timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/despite-ban-marketing-of-breast-milk-substitutes-continues/articleshow/64200270.cms

marketwatch.com/story/nestle-net-profit-rises-upbeat-on-outlook-2019-02-14

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Ok, well the free market has done a pretty good job of ruining video games so how long do you think it will take to correct itself?

nice

Based, fuck consumers. Retards will keep buying my garbage and complain about it on social media but it'll never impact my sales no matter how much I rip people off.

it hasn't been that way for like 10 years. No one uses ProRes and most TV has moved away from Final Cut Pro, particularly because of the period where it lost fucking multicam support.

A CIA Wallstreet shill routinely stifles development in developing nations due to sanctions and framing any technological advancement as something that can be weaponized. Its why they cry about nuclear power plants there why decreeing it the safest thing ever when talking about their own business connections.

>all humanshit

nah

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How is the free market going to stop game publishers from squeezing every penny out of cash cow retards and children?

I have to agree. This is unironically fucking disgusting.

I've never known physical removal fags to be anything but shitposters. Not a fan of Hoppe's solutions in general.

>Killing customers reduces the number of customers you have, and creates a bad reputation for a product

"Perfect information" is false and utopic just as much as communism is, you retard. Unless you are a computer-citizen with a gigantic database of memory, you will never have perfect information about the market.

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There is literal no place for an ancap in today's America. You must be tearing your hair out.

Is the bill going to get rid of lootboxes or the gambling aspect of them?

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bookfag here, was still entertaining through season 4. not as good as the books but interesting in it's own right and the plot changes were acceptable, even entertaining in the new interactions it spawned. after that they tried to write for themselves...

Let retards and bad parents fail and society to start evolving again. A stupid people produces a stupid culture.

>Killing customers reduces the number of customers you have
This is an argument often cited to justify why free market pharmaceuticals won't develop actual cures, but lifelong medication instead.
>creates a bad reputation for a product
Unless the company used resources to cover up the results
>creates market demand for services that verify the authenticity and safety of products
Unless it's more financial viable to cover up or falsify the results
>creates incentive for people to buy products from people and places they know IE local business
Again, bringing society back to a primitive level.

>all the fascists and commies ITT
You make me sick Yea Forums

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>recognizing snake oil is utopia
If people can't tell when they're being scammed, how does democratic government?

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>letting the free market do its magic
That's what has been happening. The ESRB is the industry self-regulating itself.

Clearly it is not doing its job. I'm sorry zoomer, but go look up 1990s history from before you were born.

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show us your dick

rolling hard

Everything except your shit bait threads, user.

This guy gets it.

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reminds me of when trump took office and immediately overturned the internet privacy act

you know, as much as I hate what has happened to politics post 2008, it did do one thing right: it killed off the infestations of neo faggots on both sides. the period from the late 80s through post 9/11 was filled the absolute height of corporate dicksucking and capitalism as religion. thank fuck people are not drinking that particular flavor of koolaid anymore, and the few left are going to be on literal life support soon if they haven't already bit it.

loot boxes and gacha and micro tranactions exist in this free market. they were born from it

>how does democratic government?
By employing specialists (the average citizen is not) and requiring approval of potentially harmful substances before they are released on the market

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_and_Drug_Administration

Jesus do you even think before you post?

Lolbertarians decry regulation but bitch about market dominant tech companies that know everything about them.

Please be Jutta.

I don't think the market should have any interference. That includes monopolies which only exist thanks to government help, in an actual free market these companies would be threatened by competition.

With that attitude how do we decide anything is wrong?

>supporting gambling
You are the degenerate here.

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Don't like Battlefront 2 and Fate/GO? Don't play it you fucking niggers.
>MUH GOBBERNET NEEDS TO PROTECT ME THO
Get gassed.

>in an actual free market these companies would be threatened by competition.

Someone hasn't passed econ101. Here, let me help you.

britannica.com/topic/barriers-to-entry
investopedia.com/terms/d/dumping.asp
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economies_of_scale

Fuck EA and fuck gachaniggers

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The govt regulating the video game industry sets a dangerous precedent where the government is more likely to interfere in what content can be distributed through video games. I fucking hate lootboxes, but this is not the ideal solution.

Once people know that fingers are in the meat, they'll seek out the business that doesn't let that happen and the one with the bad practice will go out of business.

What do you think the government is going to do?

Yeah and why do all those things exist? Because government. Imagine a system where a fuckup dooms a company and nothing is there to save it.

Based Ghost: Coast to Coast.

>britannica.com/topic/barriers-to-entry
>investopedia.com/terms/d/dumping.asp
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economies_of_scale

Posting commie propaganda isn’t helping your case, tranny. Try again.

So the FDA has never approved harmful products or employed bad actors?

micro transactions have only increased, not decreased in utilization. how does your hypothesis work with that?

BUILD MY ROADS
TO MY HOME
DON'T JEW ME
FOR MY THRONE

That's my point. Society is composed of people. Any system that argues people are incapable yet government organizations aren't is intellectually dishonest. Even 's example argues that the government never actually stopped Nestle from jewing third worlders, not that I fucking care if they do.

Damn, a Mac Pro for only $6? That's pretty based. Why's everyone making fun of Apple?

Anna please

Because microtransactions are not the same thing as human body parts in our food. Microtransactions aren't going to literally make us sick.

Modern literature is a joke just like the rest of western art. You won't be well-read no matter how much Twilight, Fifty Shades, GoT, and Stephen King you have.

That's why we need a machine government.

so then the free market can't be expected to correct this shit

Can someone donate money to me so I can go to this things country and murder it with a knife to the throat

>society needs the FDA to save us from corporations
>the entire pharmaceutical industry is FDA-approved

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The free market will correct things that are actually problems.

That's why I hate shit like the FDA and the EPA. They turn into rubber stamp agencies and override common law.

you're wasting your time, these people are are in a cult

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>government is responsible for barriers to entry, dumping, and economies of scale
JFC, this is how I know you've gone off the deep end

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>macpro
>8-core
is 28-core processor.

What is the other business gonna do, smash up my store because they don't like that I make a better product?

funny enough I just posted this so you're more right than you know

Shouldn't the Messiah there be Adam Smith?

AI rule is just the latest iteration of the barbaric concept of a god-king. Creating a concept that is greater than humans and thus has the right to rule humans with an iron fist is the very basis of tyranny. Statists and religious fanatics are birds of a feather who only disagree on their master.

t. authoritarian asshole who wants to establish communism/fascism/totalitarian neoconservatism

you gotta be shitting me, have you never fucking read the history of business ever? That's literally what people fucking did, and still do in many places, it's a fucking meme that's centuries old.

Tell me what's wrong woith a God-King?

Nope. That's the price of the 8 core default eyelet. 28 core is the last of 4 optional CPUs and out the wazoo in cost, the Xeon W-3275M alone costs 7000k and by the looks of it will be a pile of dogshit.

I haven't upgraded my PC in over 6 years now apart from upgrading my HDD to SSD, but thats only because my hard drive died. Still works decently and my PC was already not very good back when I made it and it didn't even cost me 1k, so you're fucking retarded.

no, because Adam Smith was against everything Ancraps, republicans, and neoliberals stand for as seen here

For starters, every god-king in history has just been a human with human limitations defrauding his followers.

Let's find out.

???
yes

in any system that is completely free, the first powerful actor will realize it's beneficial to make the system non-free for their own benefit. freedom has to be regulated and enforced.

literal cuckold mentality
>im in control because I CHOOSE to get fucked over by gaming companies

It doesn't matter what he actually said, it only matters what his believers think he said.

Why would you even need a mac that powerful the OS is so limited it's just a glorified Facebook machine

But a machine isn't a human.

an AI by definition isn't human, so the entire argument doesn't work, we have no idea what kind of construct it would be, how it would function, or how it would dictate, so there is no way to for any rational argument around it other than assumptions. It's like arguing about alien life, it most certainly exists somewhere, but we can only theorize based on our 1 datapoint of what it would be like.

Nah bruh. I make video games and I want this shit banned. Sure it makes me some money but it ruins every game its in

I defend lootboxes because suckers deserve to be ripped off.

Mental retardation.
Professionals these days depend on GPU farms run 99% by Linux and 1% by Windows and providing Virtualization to maximize efficiency as distributed among staff.
Apple is not worth shit, especially the amortization cost, only brainlets get scammed into it.

>economics of scale is government/commie propaganda
I hope I'm giving (you)s to bait

If you are incorporated, a hostile takeover

In any case regardless, a competitor can forge exclusive contracts with your suppliers and cut you out of the production chain

It can use a "loss leading" strategy (otherwise known as dumping) when they are in a position of strength to take losses for X number of quarters, where X is equal to the time you hemorrhage profits and go bankrupt. Then after you exit the market, they raise the prices to normal levels again to recoup their losses. This is easier when you are a monopoly.

Larger corporations also have a more efficient economy of scale, which is simultaneously a strength and a weakness. They have a lot of money invested in a particular manufacturing process (or whatever they do), being on the bleeding edge of R&D, which means that unless you have access to similar resources, you will be unable to enter the market even if you offer a unique or superior idea in some aspect of your product. The mass production simply shoves you out.

I don't blame you for not knowing this shit, but like all lolbertarians you should really graduate high school and take a few microeconomics and macroeconomics courses at university before making brazen posts on the internet and wasting everyone's times. I posted the links for you, now go for it when your 12 hour workshift is over (oh wait, we don't live in the 1800s anymore)

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>I am literally incapable of thinking for myself, thus instead of formulating arguments I am going to dump random sources in an attempt to get other people to argue against themselves for me and/or appeal to authority

>I am literally incapable of thinking myself, thus instead of formulating arguments I am going to post a strawman that I myself didn't even create

>I am literally incapable of thining myself, therefore I am going to prove the NPC meme right without even realizing it, and spout the exact same strawman at the same time someone else does and be impressed rather than disturbed at my own lack of originality

Bad news for you anons, the cultists in this thread aren't the people you're talking to.

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editing youtube videos isn't actual work, faggot

Isn't this the same guy who forces you to watch a hour and a half {{{Video}}} of paint drying to solve a puzzle in game?

*ahem*

Look at all of the bootlickers itt. Look and laugh.

ROLLLLLLLLLLLLLING

N

dismissive statements and zoomer memes in the face of actual history makes you an idiot

yeah retards will defend unregulated predatory gambling directed at children as long as there are cute gorls involved

There are no options left except fovernment intervention. I'm all about keeping the government out of business but that philosophy has its limits.

We tried boycotting. We tried appealing to the developers. We tried letting the system sort itself out thinking loot boxes would die off as people came to realize how they're predatory in nature and actively make a game worse. But there are so many retards all over the world who are getting suckered into the loot box and "games as a service" systems that no matter how hard we protest or how hard we boycott, the publishers still make money. Lits of it. Millions and millions of dollars.

So if it saves videogaming then let the government bitch slap the likes of EA and Activision. Loot boxes, games as a service, and freemiun systems in full $60 games is killing the hobby. Pretty soon gaming will just be a wasteland of games that are half finished microtransaction infested trash. Because in an unregulated market there are enough retards willing to shell out the cash that those games will make millions off of zero effort on the part of the publishers and developers.

Yes actually.

lets go

you don't know what you're talking about

in the future we will return to religious wars. with the fighters not giving allegiance to a nation, but to various AI gods that are competing for power. the human race will splinter, as some AI gods will choose to leave earth with their populace rather than fight on it. eventually humans will become several sub-species in different locations in space. some may even meld with the machines, or go through designed evolution to become even greater than the AIs. inevitably, we will encounter alien races that have had high technology for billions of years and can travel through space and time effortlessly. will they accept us, or destroy us?

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Take econ101 before posting about economics, thanks. Fucking "appeal to authority" my ass, it's called researching the subjects you spout.

An AI is not human, but it falls it utilizes the exact same logical trap to tyrannize people that a god-king does.
>The god-king is above criticism, the will of heaven is carries wisdom beyond our comprehension and must be followed for society's wellbeing.
>The AI is above criticism, the machine intelligence is beyond our comprehension and must be followed for society's wellbeing
There is no oversight, and no accountability. If the god-king/AI causes calamity it is simply the best outcome out of many worse possibilities, and if the god-king/AI is wrong it is a misunderstanding/beyond our comprehension/a great plan. This is also what bothers me about the rabid Trump genious faggots, they remove their personal perspective from the occasion and entrust their future to something with unknown motives.

Hell, the "AI" could just be a fraudulent human, just like the "god"/"heavens" are just a fraudulent human. A system that cannot be criticized is a system that enables exploitation. Humans must perfect self-rule in order to achieve the greatest possible survival as a species.

really wish people would lurk more before posting. it would save a lot of unnecessary bandwidth

>There are no options left except fovernment intervention.
The ESRB could actually fuckin do its job, but you're right

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>the machine intelligence is beyond our comprehension
Except unlike human god-kings, the machine intelligence is actually beyond our comprehension.

The general population is fucking wracked with retarded, irresponsible spending habits. As much as I hate the concept of devolution, it's hard not to see it that way, I simply cannot relate to idiots. Unregulated markets don't work in the long term.

>Faggots raised by this board are so desperate to be contrarian they are defending fucking lootboxes
Imageboards were a mistake

Nice namecalling. I'm not giving the time of day to anyone that can't write their own posts.

Posting wikipedia links isn't research, nor is it an argument. Telling people to read econ 101 doesn't make you an economist. You're just some jackass putting on airs on Yea Forums, fuck off.

>climate change will see the end of all ideology.
It's communism via the backdoor. When I ignored his anti-Brexit spew and repeatedly asked a green activist during the European Election campaign how carpeting over the green-belt with concrete was environmentalism he called me a stupid fascist (I voted Lib dem last general election so one of those was right).

It's pol astroturfing, jesus refute it and move on. Yea Forums is post-contrarian now, because the contrarian posts attracted genuine retards who think we believe what we mocking portrayed.

I bet these fresh reddit niggers don't even know what caused Habbo Hotel. They probably think that swastikas were spammed for the lulz.

I gave you reading material nigger. Go read it. You should be glad I'm educating you considering your school didn't bother.

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If something's beyond your comprehension you have no way of verifying that it's actually working in your best interest. In that sense, it's even more dangerous than a god-king (and I don't mean that in the "hurr durr AI revolution" pop sci meme way, I mean it in a personal freedoms way).

It's not devolution, it's changing and perfecting unethical business practices and creating new methods of exploitation that elegantly circumvent the system in place to protect us from them while coopting that system further. It's like how gas companies no longer plan what low price they sell at in the future, instead they sell oil back and forth between themselves giving gas the illusion of high demand and low supply. These practices are why gas in the 90s was at least two dollars cheaper than it is now.

This is actually healthy. The reality is, everyone here is okay with this but others are playing devils advocate for fun. Because debate is fun.

For the people that will larp and say that banning lootboxes is a bad thing, they will never protest irl and will sit on their ass and deal with it because this is something we all want unironically.

Not that guy, but I understand your concern. With elected leaders we have the catharsis of the election, the semblance of control and critique. With an AI we're just supposed to trust, believing in it's leadership becomes an act of pure faith. Even in it's fuck ups, it's all 5D chess.

When mature wallets can't vote because retarded children flood the market to financially prop up what should never be propped up to their ignorance, and in spite of the ESRB that their retarded parents are incapable of owning up to, it is up to the government to step in and regulate both the underage retards and the garbage companies. There is no other way, as it's unrealistic to ask for Westcuck parents to learn how to parent.

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>tells people to refute things
>is someone that responds to discussions by posting random links
You don't know anything about economics.

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>Casual trash can't pay to win anymore.

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>limiting personal freedom is good
nu/v/ is weird

...

The argument is that the business will regulate itself. In this case it does not. Games are getting infested with this garbage and it is not stopping. Quality is going down across the industry.

For once I think I side with the lawmakers. If we can get rid of this crap maybe it will improve.

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t.resetera tranny
also tl;dr lol

Pfff anybody but Ilona and Crones

I posted you uneducated halfwit nigger, but keep pretending I didn't bother explaining anything just because you're too illiterate to read.

Do I have to teach you how to read, too? Fucking lolbertarians. Learning how to read is apparently under the purview of the ebil gubmint too. Go get homeschooled by your pedophile father.

>I defend predatory monetization practices aimed at children that make devs completely fuck up game cycles and whip up bullshit half baked products because of games as service bullshit
You are a dumb shill. There is a limit to Yea Forums contrarianism

>wanting reasonable government regulation makes you a commie
shills at it again I see

>I like gameplay mechanics so I'm a tranny
Go back to Gone Home then you dicksucking faggot limpwrist.

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I want this to pass so that I can see all of those mouthbreathing weebs who spam this board with gachashit cry.

Yer a Blizzard Harry

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Pretty sure Yea Forums overall hates gacha, but /feh/ on /vg/ would probably implode in a pile of messy Doritos-smelling diarrhea

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The fundamental problem with the concept is the abandonment of self-rule, and under self-rule you can already do anything the AI tells you to but also have the option of abandoning it. Without self-rule you make yourself a slave to the AI, you give up any semblance of autonomy, and abandon the alternative options. It is restrictive of choice. If the AI is surpassed the society that unconditionally follows the AI will hit a dead-end while the self-ruling society will not.

You are paying for macOS which is far superior to whatever version of winshit you install on that junk.

Praise the Omnissiah!

What kind of shithole do you even live in, for that to be true? I, living in the middle of Siberia, spent all of three days replacing my passport, with an electronic application and one hour of waiting at Migration Affairs to get the thing done.

>advocating control over video games because bad parenting exists
>anything to do with communism
Nice strawman faggot.

>You are paying for macOS which is
An increasing pile of dogshit since Jobs died and inferior to BSD which it is based on. So i'd be paying for a meme UI i can stitch up in Linux in 30 seconds, is the reality here.
You can take a hike with your stupidity and ignorance.

rollerino

>muh regulations are always bad corporations have my best interests in mind they certainly don't want to prey on addiction
Taking bootlicker to a whole new level

Coming through, just here to claim a nice waifu. No witches though, witches are 100% cunts.

again, you're making assumptions with nothing to base on, the only way you can argue this point is if an AI existed already, you're also ignoring the fact an AI can be reprogrammed if it fails expectations

>completely unverifiable claim referring to a completely different comment chain
>over half your post is butthurt namecalling
You're just further proving my point. Presenting a real argument is completely beyond your capabilities.

*Dabs*

Except it wont because it is also a self developing and self maintaining system that would also develops the people too as well as constantly adjust any new or unknown variables. It could literally make magnitude more decisions a faster rate than the entire human population combined.

>also tl;dr lol

You're making a "Resetera tranny" accusation at a post you didn't even read?

>get linked to a real comment chain
>deflect instead of addressing it
You're just proving you're a cuck.

>lootbox thread
>guaranteed 500 replies
Because of baits like these:

>strawman
see

>bootlicking
>a term for disparaging people that kiss government ass, particularly the police
>not wanting government to have their fingers in video games is bootlicking

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>tranny false flag
Go back to dilating trannyfaggot.

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>Yea Forums is one person
>people that disagree with me are one person
HURRRRRRRRRRR

have sex

Let your mother rest a bit first bro.

This thread is an unmitigated disaster what the fuck is even going on in here

>there are no options left except government intervention
FUCK WHY IS IT SO HARD TO STOP PEOPLE FROM BUYING THINGS VOLUNTARILY, STATISTS PLEASE SAVE US

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more like REE market

bootlick more

astroturfing

only politicalniggers would argue that video games should be shittier because a company wants to extract profit from it

they're not Yea Forums

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I'm not paying dues just so some commie can act like he's doing something. I already have to pay taxes for literally the same thing.

>it's voluntary when monopolies control the suppliers and production at a stage before you can "voluntarily" participate
Continue living in a fantasy-utopia land you stupid child

except u wont have the software, stop being a retard. there's a reason apple is used by a lot of graphicfags, and I say this as an absolute pc fanboy.

thank fuck that's just a fake disease for fake people then!

>FUCK WHY IS IT SO HARD TO STOP PEOPLE FROM BUYING THINGS VOLUNTARILY

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