What would TF3 have to do differently than TF2 for it to succeed?

It only need to be made. At this point Valve has a clear vision for TF2, and other games have done buy-able cosmetics in better ways than TF2 did. They'd just need to re-build TF2 on a new engine with all of those additions that TF2 got being added early-on so they don't break anything like what happened in TF2.

To be fair, those autists weren't the ones around when the game was flourishing and at its peak, they're just there picking the bones. I think if they made a new one a lot of the original player base would flock.

Oh wait you meant team fortress

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TF2 but in VR.
>Bolting after the enemy team as a Spy.
>Getting up and close, hearing the proximity mics getting louder as you sneak closer.
>Having to physically backstab the enemy and duck and slide as you bolt out of there.
VR stealth games are both horrifying and exhilarating and I'd love something like that in a multiplayer game.

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This

A completely different game. Needs to be a Japanese RPG with lots of waifus. No men. That's why OW is beating the shit out of TF2 at every turn.

It's a fact, everyone would be back if Valve re-made TF2 from scratch. Get rid of the cancerous crafting economy. No scrap metals, no crafting. No adding a million different hats in droves because that only bloats the game size by adding hats that nobody will wear. Plan shit from the start so you don't get broken viewmodels when you add in the cosmetic weapons.

>overwatch
>beating TF2
LOL overwatch is fucking dying both casually and in esports while TF2 is still going strong.

>TF2 is literally the perfect game
it has likable characters but it is by no means a perfect game. i would go so far as to say it turned to complete shit at the mannconomy update and transitioned into irredeemable garbage when they killed community servers

vr is a dying fad
nobody is spending that much money to get a headache and forced to put in far more work in a lazy hobby like gaming

Same characters but more weapon types and play styles

More beta looking graphics like the first trailer where 2fort bridge has no roof.

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ray tracing

Whatever you say, chump.
Valve is making more VR shit than Team Fortress shit anyways.

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that roof was a good addition and a weird thing to target specially
2forts biggest problem is the hallways that lead to the intel room are just boring straight corrdiors and there needs to be more spawn locations with shorter tunnels to make going down their actually viable

When you say they "killed community servers," do you mean Valve is the only one who can make servers now?

even if they hypothetically decide to make it I dont want it
valve has lost their touch completely

and all of them will fail
If you think gamers on mass have 300+dollar vr setups on top of the money required for the machines to even run it
Plus think they will want to sit up straight or have plenty of room to play these games comfortably
your in denial
your in denial

>implying valve is a game company

No, they just introduced matchmaking and pushed it so that it's the most common way to play, instead of looking up a server and joining one. So community servers aren't as popular anymore.

they are making auto chess right now and have some vr stuff in the works that no one gives a shit about

>Remove what made TF2 unique because I don’t like it

Sure sure, an you don't need to try vr to know it's already a meme gimmick fad that's already over I get it.
Too bad the Quest, Rift S, and Index are all sold out; you coulda' tried one~

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These autist whine that quickplay was the best and should never been remove while also bitching about community servers
even tho community servers died with quickplay

Personally community servers are overrated trash thats filled with garbage servers to the brim, and people just forgot how shitty they are. im glad it stopped being the main way to play the game
the Meet your match system is also p trash and i rather just have quickplay
but what can you do

>a broken-ass economy ran by autists and a shitty crafting system is what made TF2 unique
How can someone be this retarded? How can someone be this obsessed about something that has nothing to do with the game itself?

What about hats makes tf2 unique?

>not stocked that much
>"sold out"
Cool dude, very impressive

Vanilla exists and nobody plays it.

>tf3
they need to fix tf2, not make a whole new game
>hit reg is still trash and spy can abuse networking settings to do stab you from 90 miles away
>performance is trash due to all the retarded looking hats they're adding every other week and comp badges no one's ever going to see
>not enough fun weapons to use because of retarded balancing
>cheaters in every server
>matchmaking still sucks dick and is inferior to quickplay in nearly every way
once thats done they should add the beta stuff
>scout's original nail gun for a primary or secondary
>demo's bundle of TNT in place of the sticky launcher
>the old beta muzzle flash that actually fit the style they removed for the stock source one for some reason
>finish fucking cactus canyon
also
>add a hatless mode or a setting in the options menu that disables cosmetics based on year (like disable all cosmetics past 2011 or something)

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be on a new engine

Heavy needs the nail gun more then anything as a primary

Hah, you guys always say the same shit.
Unless you have any production numbers to back that up, cope harder.
You can have fun with us too someday.

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>>hit reg is still trash
Kind of
> spy can abuse networking settings
Why can we change our network settings again? just make the default good and lock that shit
>not enough fun weapons to use because of retarded balancing
Nobody uses anything that's not stupid broken tho like the pre-nerf lock and load
Theirs tons of wacky weapons but nobody wants gimmicks. They just want things that work good
>matchmaking still sucks dick and is inferior to quick-play in nearly every way
True it has improved, but almost 3 years later and its worse than what we had
>the old beta muzzle flash that actually fit the style they removed for the stock source one for some reason
no that shit looks obnoxious and i rather not have my eyes bleed when playing
>finish fucking cactus canyon
Fuck cactus canyon. terrible map with a terrible boring aesthetic
>add a hatless mode
The one thing that could actually save tf2
never going to happen

Be TFC2

It would probably be similar to TF2 but with maybe some key differences and additions to gameplay and classes, as opposed to something like a TFC to TF2 jump which was much more drastic. Likely would have cosmetic systems from day one though, maybe optimized. Although the TF2 mercs are also probably too good to pass up on for new characters.

vr isn't new anymore dude
its like 4-7 years old now and no one still gives a shit about it
the biggest vr game is just a xd funni chat room where most of the playerbase doesn't even use vr
There are probably more people playing borderlands 2 right now then people using vr for any game in the entire world
I would say its Dead-on-arrival But were way past its fucking arrival
Again its been like half a decade

good luck when your in buyers denial mode when valve silently cans those vr games and retool them to be normal

The best future
>TF3 with a similar style to TF2 but with a new setting/set of characters plus optimizations, gameplay tuneups, and a modding scene just as big as TF2's; inventory from TF2 can be transferred in some manner
The good future
>TF2 on Source 2 with regular content updates, community support and equal/greater modding scene to TF2; everything comes over
The okay future
>TF2 gets a sudden revival in popularity and gets a good several years more of life into it
The current future
>TF2 is neglected but the hope for a big update lingers
The bad future
>TF2 is randomly shut down one day without a word

Let us make our own merc but you can only use a class kit which you select by class switching.

tf2 is in a playable state. is it as good as it once was? no. i miss community servers, sprays/mods in quickplay, and other things as well. but is it still a damned good game? yeah, for sure. at its core the gameplay is mostly the same, and that gameplay is so solid that it stands the test of time.
t. played the game starting december 2007 on xbox then migrated to pc a bit later

They should instead port TF2 to Source 2. The game is so poorly optimized because of the cosmetics and effects that have been added over the course of its time.

fpwp, this is what /v actually believes
dumb nigger.

Imagine getting so defensive about not being able to afford 400 messily dollars that you have to dodge points and resort to random conjecture on an anime forum.
Does it make your blood boil that people are having unsanctioned fun without you or what?
It doesn't matter anyways, I'll see you in the next VR thread where you complain and try to derail other people's discussion on something you have no experience with.

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TF2 just needs its match making and balance fixing

Who the fuck goes to dead ass vr threads
Is this bait?
Ive literally never seen 1 break a 100 replies in the last year

Two reached bump limit last night.
But it's fine, you didn't see it so it's not real right?
You have fun, user.
I'll see you later~

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oh it is bait
should of known
enjoy your dead peice of plastic user

Just make it $60, no MTXs, awards from achievements, bring it back to the pre-F2P shit before it became a hat and trading simulator. No Matchmaking, public and official servers in the browser. New maps, same game modes, different characters in the same roles.

fuck I need that pillow