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Toreachads get in here

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I'm so funking horny

so is that a boy or a girl

does it really matter?

why would I pick a clan this boring and vapid over literally anything else? would unironically rather skulk the sewers as a nossie

yes Cause you wanna play a social playtrough i guess? i hoped for gangrels to be added theyre my favorite but i always go for more of a social playtrough whatever so my next option would be toreador except i dont like that presence ability.

Malkfags, what's the best build for Malkavians? Firearms of melee? Which disciplines should I upgrade? Which one is the most useful? How to make Malk playthrough fun?

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What's her clan?

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cutest clan coming through

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Who is your favourite charachter and why is it tseng? Also arent thinbloods weak as shit? Why play as one?

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I think stealth melee is a popular build for Malks.

Should probably still put a few points in guns for the late-game though.

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lads i unironically had a dream last night that i discovered a Giovanni run restaurant in my town (The name was "Giovanni") and then some point later specifically a daughter of cacophony tied me up in and stepped all over me with her bare feet while pouring vanilla vodka on me
what does it mean

june 3, 2019

i am forgotten...

>Favorite character
Probably Beckett, or the Voerman twins.

>Favorite side character
Mister Ox. I like that nothing about his nature is ever really explained. Just a creepy weirdo asking you to do creepily weird things.

>Why play as a thinblood
Underdog story.

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That's not a Malkavian

MALK
LANCES
DRAW
TORRIE
GLANCES

T1HEN J0U
MALEPGAY

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Going ninja on everyone is how I played as malk... until the end game at least, then you'll need to use firearms.
So, if you want "fun" play as malk just go with melee and stealth and have firearms at least on 3 so you don't suck completely in the end.
Therefore, Obfuscate is the only useful Malkavian only discipline you'll get as a Malkavian. Auspex is a meme and Dementation is useless at the end game.

Max dementation and put points into stealth. Obfuscate isn't really necessary because of how broken stealth is but you can use it if you want. I did guns with a couple points in melee as well just for Hollywood. Max dementation is a fucking blast, in stealth you can just instakill sentries with vision of death and then use hysteria on someone and feed on them to refill all of your blood. Bedlam is great for fighting groups with guns or melee.

Well-rounded or a specialized build?

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Oops.

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Thanks for the tips. Well, off I go then.

I know Tremere HQ was apparently nuked by this point, but I hope we can still hang out with a few more of them as a group, especially if we actually rise in rank in the clan.

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Stealth and firearms. Auspex works well with firearms and through dementation + obfuscate you can annihilate entire groups of enemies with voice of bedlam.

>no Giovanni

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Toreadors are only good for being concubines to superior vampires

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Very rare to find a trap with a torso like that, it's always more bulky and square.

As a trememe you should understand better than anyone else how insufferable trememes are

Lasombra or Baali

...for being concubines to Malkavians

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Name me one not-Nosferatu clan that ain't. They're all insufferable cunts.

She was an angsty traveler that can turn into a wolf monster. So Gangrel?

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TREMERE CHADS REPORT IN

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lads i been gone for 2 whole weeks, have they announced any good clans yet?

lasombra?
tizimice?
werewolf-furry-clan?
nosferatu!?

>Tremere
>chads

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>Tremere
speak softly and carry a big stick: the clan

WE OUTCHEA

What the FUCK was her problem?

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An obvious choice. I let him live.

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Yes they announced his clan aka clan RETARDS.

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>Tremere gets qt goth sloot with a septum piercing

He was pretty "normal" in the trailer desu. At least when compared to edgelords in other trailers.

This is a Tremere, prove me wrong.
Protip: Thou cannot

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The man, the myth, the legend... The thin blue line protecting the good people of Los Angeles 24/7, 364 days a year.

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He really just wants to hold hands with you, doesn't he?

Nope, but who cares when it will be a garbage game anyways

Tremere himself and some 4th generation fags are are still alive, so hopefully they're not a fucking meme.

How do vampires think if their brains are dead and shriveled up?

>Tremere on the cover
Not in million years, kikes!

I never said Giovanni user, stop bullying the edgy goth kids.

Reminder that the devs are responsible for these turds

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Is it true Tremere are the most hated clan?

I want to hold hands with this cute daughter of Malkav!

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Pfft. I'd sooner buy the story that Tzimisce is on the cover than Tremere.

Her father had a good heart, but as a busy and mild mannered single parent he lacked the gumption to properly discipline her for fear of driving an emotional wedge between himself and his only family.

Which left her spoiled, and with free reign to succumb to the growing negative influences of her crime riddled social environment.

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We got Brujah, Tremere, Ventrue, Toreador and Malkavian.
They add 2 clans as DLC i think?

I'm genuinely curious if she's just an oddball who dresses like that all the time, or if she's hiding out in an acting troupe, that thinks she's just artistically eccentric.

>clan RETARDS
Yet Malkavians have some of the most intelligent kindred in their clan. Ironic.

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hey RETARDS you're never going to get your Lasombraps, your Tizzymichies OR your Baali!
This is CAMARILLA TOWN and only CAMARILLA clans are welcome!
stay mad and inferior sabbitches

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Where the fuck his other glove?

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Sees herself as a performer most likely.

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She came from prague and got vamped instead of auged.

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Shit, fine, shit, shit, fine.
Lazy trash devs

Well the Malkavians in the first game had a unique fashion sense so I imagine that it will be similar in Bloodlines 2.

Got stolen by Mitsoda.

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"unique fashion sense" also known as trashy stripper and chaotic retard

yikes

You are asking a lot of specific questions, user. We have Brian on and you're asking questions we cannot answer, which is a bummer!

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I'm very pleased with how the females in this game have turned out. There was whining before the reveals that the game was going to get SJWified and that it would be nothing like the previous game, but the girls so far are just as cute if not cuter.

gangrel girls fuck dogs

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So? Most girls like to get fucked by a dog

I'm sorry, user, but we have Brian on and you're asking a lot of "specific" questions that I'm afraid we can't talk about.

Yeah, I think they're having fun with giving the different clans a unique aesthetic.

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*AHEM*
FUCK THE CAMARILLA
FUCK THE ANARCHS
FUCK THE SABBAT
AND MOST OF ALL
FUCK THE KUEI-JIN

t. ennoia

YAAAAAAAAASSSS

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based and knotpilled

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Can’t wait to see how fucking bad this pile of garbage will be.

But if you fuck the whole world, who is left to fuck you?

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If you actually read the interview it's pretty clear they're letting the players decide what their character's politics are. Stay mad.

Oh look. One Angry Gaymer woke up.

>flat tits
>dyke hair
Man, those reverse traps sure are convincing nowadays.

Like in the TT?

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Yeah and get fucking negative consequences. Can’t wait to kill Drumpf!

Most people in Seattle aren't going to be Nazis.

hes in malkavian trailer

Reads like propaganda

...

If this is anything to go by the writing in the game will be shit. Villians will be one dimensional goofballs.

red herring

Wannabe Lasombrabrap.

>Acknowledging V5

Can’t wait to play a Tremere
>3 shitty low level spells
YIKES

have any of you ever even played the first game lmao you could literally tell a guy to go kill bush and the villain was a one dimensional power hungry pale blonde aristocratic frenchman

The people who made the TT are not writing the game retard

>implying r/the_donald play games

Look, mom. I'm trying hard to be the new pic-related again.

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The hacks writing this are even worse and have lesser talent. The game will be absolutely dreadful

If there's no nosferatu I will likely just pirate this game.

They better be of they are freaking nazis

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>acknowledging the version that the game is based on
Wow! How dare he?!

Tores are legitimately worse than Gangrel.

hmm... youtube.com/watch?v=s08JTWiuDm8

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Meh I'll still play it and won't risk spending my money on a potentially bad game.

You and like 2 other faggots repeat this in literally every thread and you always get BTFO'd.

>Dementation
>V5

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What's up with burgers and their obsession of having a Ferris Wheel on the pier?

tourist viewpoints wtf else

I'll take that as a "no I have never played the first game"

the game started development while V5 was still in the works retard

Are you retarded? VTMB1 also changed shit when they adopted the V20.

More like Toreadorks.

>toreador look like street punks instead of classy spaniards
Disappointing.

Because if something goes wrong with it... you'll fall down in the water, dumb euroyanks.

Please tell me who'd get triggered more if VTMB1 would get released today:

right-wingers cause of Bush/Trump jokes, or left-wingers cause you can have a female sex slave that you can rob and tell her to wear only panties

Post your

>Reasons to be excited
>Reasons to be wary

They aren't supposed to be faggot Spaniards just regular faggots.

>VTMB
>V20
Come on, I give you that v20 is literally just reprinted revised but get your terminology straight?

>VTMB1
>Adaptation of V20 released in 2011

>getting mad about video games about vampires
lmao @ your entire life either way tbqh bucko

>Reasons to be excited
Mitsoda and Avellone
>Reasons to be wary
Literally every other reason

To piss the rest of the world off. Why else?

Urban vampire societies are gay as fuck.

Righties wouldn't give a shit. They'll just go "WHATEVER AMERICA YEAAAAAH"
Lefties would be pumping out "X is problematic and here's why" articles and tweets every other second.

>muh bloodlines

>pretty much everything

Probably /pol/.
Especially considering that leftists love VtM and Ghouls being literal slaves has been incredibly consistent.
Turns out everybody loves playing a monster

>clan named after bizet's opera
>supposed to be obsessed with beauty and passion
Punk is the antithesis of what a toreador is supposed to enjoy.

you are

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Where are my Amish country vampires?

>Reasons to be wary
Shovelware developer
Paradox
Still no gameplay

Uhhh it makes sense though. First of he 300 years old WHITE blonde guy. Comes from a prestigious high class background. Obviously he feels entitled to the sarcophagua. Think about when you a handsome immortal white guy why fuck would you not tell some dumb kid to get you your fuckin coffin and not play nice with ch!nks and anarch monkeys?

>Righties wouldn't give a shit. They'll just go "WHATEVER AMERICA YEAAAAAH"
Nigga. Most of the backlash for this game has been from butthurt conservatives. Read the thread.

whatever
I never said I'd get mad, I'm asking you who'd actually get outraged at the shit in VTMB1. You and other posters like you always imply that it's some typically left-wing game that only insults the sensitivities of right-wingers.
Not really, sweetie. V5 removed practically all of that, including the gray morality.

It's just a name dude. Don't take it literally. Brujah aren't Spanish either and Tzimisce aren't Greek.

>excited
Uhm..
>wary
Everything

>V5 removed practically all of that, including the gray morality.
Are you retarded? What exactly do you think they took out that impacts the morality or how vampires are monsters.

Ah yes one thread on Yea Forums sure is good indication of everyone’s opinion about the game huh? You fucking retard, kill yourself.

Hello Yea Forums, whats keeping you up tonight?
>debofnight.andcuriouser.com/

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Get fucked idiot

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They made the Anarchs the morally good faction, made romances between vampires commonplace, pretty much removed the Sabbat, etc.

The upcoming race war of course

HI DEB

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Look at the other threads. Literally every single one has someone sperging about the supposed "leftist" politics.

Reasons to be excited.
>same writer and composer of a game that I already enjoyed
>clear desired emphasis on the differences between clan playthroughs
>non-voiced protagonist with more abilities to customize and roleplay
>the combat and performance were so jank in the original that there's nowhere to go but up with what they can learn from it.
>it's still a hub based world without waypoints

Reasons to be wary.
>It's been over a decade. It's a new team with new ideas, and they shouldn't be expected to make something just like the original.
>the game might be shorter than I'd like it to be
>weapon degradation?
>No confirmation of Deb of Night
>Too many potential DLC gimmicks from the get-go.

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What's the context of that picture? She looks like the stereotypical strong female figure that gays find attractive.
I didn't mean "gay" literally before. But I'm using it literally now. She's the kind of character to make gays go YAAAAAS QUEEN.
That is, assuming I'm not looking at a man in drag. Because honestly, she could pass as a man in drag.

So what is their resason for only including the most boring clans and only give each clan 4 discipline powers each?

have sex

get fucked retard

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>Yea Forums
>OH NO NO NO MUH SJW BOOGEYMAN
>One Angry Gaymer
>OH NO NO NO MUH SJW BOOGEYMAN
>JewTube videos that are about vtmb2
>OH NO NO NO MUH SJW BOOGEYMAN
>elswhere, in general
>OH NO NO NO MUH SJW BOOGEYMAN
Come again?

Good evening, Deb.

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>game made in 2019 is more culturally sensitive to game made in 2003
SHUT IT DOWN GAMERS THE LEFTISTS HAVE TAKEN OVER AHHHHHHHH

OHNONONONONONONONO

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>world of darkness
>should be culturally sensitive
Thanks for letting me know you never actually liked the setting or the first game, faggot. You queers always show your true colors if pushed a little.

NOOOO THEY CAN'T HAVE POLITICAL OPINIONS OUTSIDE OF MY OWNNN AHHHHHHHHH THIS IS GAMER DISCRIMINATION

OH MY GOD A GAY CAKEEEEEEEEE AGHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY GAME IS RUINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Is cultural insensitivity the core of World of Darkness? I thought it was horror

I'm just saying, she has the face of a baseball pitcher. Not softball. Baseball.

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Best clan

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>low humanity torechador
>can't give the spooky amulet to therese without doing Jeannette's painting slashing
>do it
>bully her extra hard on the way back and make therese kill her
>taunt Nines by saying" but who'll pay artists"
Feels good to succomb to the beast

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Back to discord you shit gobbling trannies

you might be gay mate

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>They made the Anarchs the morally good faction
No they didn't. The only thing that changed about the Anarchs is that they are now in ascendance in terms of power.
>made romances between vampires commonplace
Not anymore than it was previously.
Or did you think mutual bloodbonds and vampires clinging to their mortality was introduced in v5?
>pretty much removed the Sabbat
Tell me more about how the Sabbat was "morally grey".

>One Angry Gaymer
Pretty sure that retard that is spamming in these threads with these ebin screenshots/Rudi bs is him.

Not really. Edginess is basically what the lore set itself apart from other TT games like DnD.
Explain how you can have a "culturally sensitive"(and by that I assume you mean by modern liberal standards) world depicting monsters and their monstrous activities.

>muh trannies
rent fucking free

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Look how sassy she is! She's a real boss! YAAAAAS!!!!

reminder that one of the main quest givers in the first game was a gay jew

STOPPPPP OPRESSING ME NO GAYS IN MY VAMPIRE GAME

How much lgbt stuff will be in bloodlines 2. Hmmmmm

dilate

Reminder again that all Malkavians are trannies

Storyteller, I want to roll a humanity check by telling the barmaid I voted republican once.

>No they didn't.
Yes, they did. You're completely disingenuous if you claim otherwise.
>Not anymore than it was previously.
No, romances between vampires weren't all that common, whereas now apparently the average vampire is in a fucking relationship or something.
>Tell me more about how the Sabbat was "morally grey".
Their contrast with the Camarilla and the Anarchs was the moral grayness.

>Explain how you can have a "culturally sensitive"(and by that I assume you mean by modern liberal standards) world depicting monsters and their monstrous activities.
Like how the Kuei-Jin were set up in VtMB1, except less blatant asian stereotypes and better voice acting. That's literally it. The themes aren't harmed by making certain things more realistic, you can still have a gloomy, edgy, horror game without that stuff.

Gain sentience.

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Ah yes I can’t wait to play this downgraded SJW infested mess made by a bunch of literal who garbage developers

>giving money to paradox

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like the first game?

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I don't know what you fucking mean by this.
Kuei-Jin are nothing more than Asian stereotypes. That was their issue since they were introduced for the first time.

What are you trying to say?

>"Okay."

Bro you better have at least computers 2 and hack it

So can you have a sex slave ghoul in this one?

your mother was busy for face scanning

>Kuei-Jin are nothing more than Asian stereotypes. That was their issue since they were introduced for the first time.
Sorry, I was trying to say that you could base different horror creatures of different cultures if you researched them thoroughly. Like the Kuei-Jin could have been less racist if they were more rooted in chinese mythology.

What does the malk character say when confronted to her?

Nope, that would be too problematic and the writers are a bunch of trannies and nu-males.

They are rooted in Chinese mythology. What the fuck are you saying?

source on that statement?

>I'm a huge faggot please rape my face.

On them being trannies and nu-males? Look up who’s making this pile of dogshit.

You forgot the best part:
>Official mod support confirmed.

lol stop making liberals explain how something is offensive when it clearly is not is too funny.

No, I mean why do you make shit up based on some pictures you've seen?

>first person only
>very few abilities
>focus on melee weapons that break
>ranged weapons will be thrown away when out of ammo
lol

Are they? Aside from living in a temple and dressing like monks, I never really got an authentic cultural mythos vibe from them. And then Ming turned into Cthulhu, completely fucking up any chance of that. I haven't read the tabletop thought so maybe they're better in that.

>first person only
This shouldn't concern anybody but the other points are valid.

They are based on Chinese mythology, you dumb fuck.

But even if what you're saying is true, you're saying that the only way for something to be "culturally sensitive" is to make it so that it doesn't stereotype cultures or races? Cause I'd argue most of the insensitivity would come from themes like rape and mindbreak and shit like that, not cultural stereotypes.

it's amazing how you keep samefagging

Imagine going to the threads for a game that makes you seethe just to sperg at everyone

What did I make up?
Are you one of the devs or something you drooling moron?

>This shouldn't concern anybody
what if we want lewd mods

Are you being willfully ignorant or do you not realize that Asia has its own version of vampires?

Excited
>it's a wod game
>the combat can only be better than vtmb
>artsyle looks cool for now
>writing may be good
Wary
>publisher known for DLC fuckery
>writing may be bad
>animations look weird from what I've seen
>if it ships on consoles pc players may pay the price for it

Back to discord or reddit then you sensitive bootlicking tranny

>All the actual powerful characters basically call her a naive idealist with no understanding of how things work
>Just sits in the bar doing fuckall the whole game besides ranting about MUH CAMMIES

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What color nipples do pale vampires have?

Based

>no ghouls because ad hominem
>ask for source on no ghouls
>uuuuuuuuuuuh trannies

Oh no, the second game might have almost as many potential gay interactions as the first.

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>if it ships on consoles pc players may pay the price for it
But it does, it’s literally a console game first and foremost.

I got that, but at least from the game I played, the only interaction I had with that eastern vampire culture was an asian lady telling my character they were an inferior westerner.

So you are saying there will be female ghoul slaves in the game you can dress up as sluts? lol

>Reasons to be excited
Bloodlines sequel
Mitsoda and Avellone

>Reasons to be wary
Paradox
shovelware developer
Day 1 dlc
No gameplay shown yet
Only 5 clans playable and most of them are basic bitch clans

Oh, I see
Oh no free pr and cake pretext in a game where you make as much blooddolls as possible regardless of their sex

So fucking what? Do you want a backstory or something? Kuei-jin are invading and they want to kill non-Kuei-Jin. What more do you want?

you're just boring desu

How would that make the game worse or better? Do you literally only consume media if it gets your dick hard?

Yikes into the trash

>tfw Toreador with Malk bf

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>forgetting Rik Schaffers return

>Reasons to be excited
i enjoyed aspects of the first
>Reasons to be wary
everything about this game

boundingintocomics.com/2019/06/03/planetscape-torment-writer-chris-avellone-criticized-for-belief-that-its-possible-to-do-apolitical-games/
I honestly think they are able to stay away from enforcing their political stances on the player so it doesn't become preachy.

Also a reminder: Malkavians are cute!

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main character can dress up as Jeanette so why not? and even if the option wasn't there you can mod it in as long as there are ghouls

>central part of being a vampire is removed for being too problematic
>hOw Is tHAt A PRoBlEm
Are you brain damaged?

It's outstar, my fav vampire e-celeb

Yeah he's good but him coming back isn't going to convince me to buy the game.

>Do you want a backstory or something?
Yeah, it's an RPG, there should be an option to learn more about one of the factions in the game than "Asian vampires who hate white piggu".

This game is going to be a train wreck isn't it?

Avellone is only designing few characters and quests and most, he literally has no say in this.

>central part of being a vampire is using your inert dick to ejaculate blood

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>Not being able to have a ghoul sex slave is central to being a vampire

Avellone isn't writing this though.

>***
>****
>*****
reminder vtmb1 has cuckshit

Then read the books. Don't expect them to drop a bunch of exposition on you. It's not that kind of game.

Damsel is for sex only

100%

don't kid yourself, though. the first was too.

Yes, pre-order now for some weapon skins for your breakable melee weapons and some outfits we ripped from the first game! Down with the patriarchy!

Look, all i'm saying is that it wouldn't hurt to portray the only non-european faction in the game as inherently monstrous and snide.

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It's only cuckshit if your mind is programmed to like cuckshit. Any other guy would realize Jeanette is a crazy slut and just use her for sex and move on.

Ehhhh but Asians are monstrous and snide in real life as well. It's a pretty fair portrayal of them.

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/pol/'s seethe today is getting me really fucking hard, I might actually pre-order the game and fuck a tranny dressed up as a vampire at the same time

also I should create a discord channel

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Yikes I hope it flops big time

What will she play as Yea Forums?

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>Reasons to be excited
Mitsoda back, Rik Schaffer back, taking liberties with the lore
>Reasons to be wary
15 years later, hard-lined "What we think is right and wrong," pronoun selector. That's about it, honestly. I know it won't hold a candle to VTMB, but I want it to at least carry the same soul as its predecessor

>look at me I am such a queer look at me I am such a special snowflake
Have a (you) sad thing

But every woman in the world belongs to him exclusively! If not, then it's cuckshit!

she makes my peepee hard and he accent is very cute. I hope she makes a tzimisce vid soon

Let see what ToreChads did
>Arikel is the favorite and one of the oldest of Caine
>Her brother and sister Antediluvians SEETHE with jealousy because of her beauty and power
>Clan "curse" is boon to make her Kindred feel alive
>inspiration for the Path of Humanity
>Arikel is still up and running without causing too much havoc; might be in Greece
>Toreadors are the leaders of culture
>so hedonistic, they can topple empires like Rome and Carthage
>Ventures and Brujah still SEETHE at Toreadors because they believe Toreadors caused their pet empires to fall which they did lol
>founded the Camarilla
>Started the Renaissance
>started many trends really
>can manipulate kine with just words or just a bit of Presence
>sex appeal so strong even the most cold Tremere fall for them
>Malkavian lovers flock to them
>guardians of Elysiums
>throw the grandest parties where if you're not invited, you're basically a nobody
>hide behind the facade of being airheads while manipulating you and others
>Embraced Brain
When did you noticed Toreadors are the most powerful Clan, Yea Forums?
Also, they might have caused the Holocaust to get inspiration from the suffering of Jews.

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Yeah, but I'd expect him to set a good example in how to handle these things. Some influence.
I mean, if you have the privilege to work with Avellone on a project wouldn't you want to learn a few things from the guy, he has quite the impressive pedigree.

For me personally Dying Light 2 wouldn't be such a big blimp on my radar if they didn't have him working on it.

I don't think it's all doom and gloom. Wait and see for now.

I can.
He has a rose on the right side of his chest. If anything, he would be a toreador.

Besides, you're seeing a V. I'm seeing two; VV. Like Velvet Velour, also a toreador. Even though it's clearly a ferris wheel

Remember, kids, raise Auspex before Dementation.

GOD I AM SO HURT YOU CAUGHT ME I AM HOMOSEX GOD I SHOULD ADD UP SOME NUMBERS TO THE 40% MEME, thank God you've been here all this time samefagging through the thread to save us all from degeneracy

She's not even the best girl

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Can you even think of anything else other than your “peepee”? Incel

Yeah, my point exactly.
What bothers me are the fags that constantly spam these threads with how this is nothing to worry about and that the first game apparently was just as progressive and liberal.
And they then post Republican and bush jokes from the first game as if that's an equivalent to gender pronouns.

Based

tl;dr get a personality snowflake

>there won't be any comfy vtmb threads anymore due to shit flinging, not friendly banter

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Auspex in the game is wack

blame the devs

I think about Outstar, a lot

Pretty pretty please invite me to your party !
Is Helene of Troy still running btw?

Threads here are literally linked on their Discords and getting raided. I would know since I infiltrated a couple of them. They have a shit ton of rules and if you say something just a tiny bit problematic you are out. The devs are listening to these rabid lunatics.

Blame r/the_donald tourists

>thinking shit flinging isn't friendly banter here

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Shit flingers aren't to blame
Final Death yourself. There's a difference between discussing/arguing and shit flinging.

These threads still exist but you gotta wait night time/school time

Just wait until June 10th. We were promised gameplay

t r i g g e r e d

Nice try, Menele.

Okay, link them for us then.

cringe
Based

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>you must worship Drumpf of you don’t want cringy gender neutral pronouns and other pandering shit in video games

>he doesn't think r*dditniggers aren't infesting this site
go back

Your definition of "shit flinging" is quoting the devs themselves and claiming to have a problem with it?
Yeah, they always have like 2-3 programmed responses to criticism.
Their most popular one is to imply that if you don't like the SJW faggotry then that means you didn't play the first game.

I do, considering one just replied to me.

each clan has about 4 disciplines because you carry on your thin blood powers for a total of 6 after you diablerize into your clan. most clans like toreador had less than 4 in the last game so this is a huge upgrade. not only that you can play the same clan with different thin blood powers each time giving more replay ability. whats also nice is that each clan has a unique power now as well and many previously useless of boring powers have been made better.

as for clans we know we are getting more as free dlc so it makes sense having all of the boring clans out of the way. i hope gangrel, noss, and lasombra get added in.

You have to go back. I don't care from where, but you need to go back

Here is your audience bro

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Your mom’s crusty old pussy is still sore but aight I will go back and have another round.

No, you have 3 in total same as the first game, with 1 discipline being carried from the thinblood state.

>out of context tranny picture
>S-see the devs are leftist!
Cringe and redpilled

I thought it was common knowledge that there's lots of red flags and to not get your hopes up, is this just the designated shit flinging and dick sucking thread?

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What a beautiful Toreador. That fair maiden must seduce many men with that seductive gaze

dyke hair

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There's a difference between not getting your hopes up and straight up derail the thread with tranny pictures and pride cakes.

>dick sucking thread
Yes considering it’s raided by ugly unfuckable trannies from Discord

are toreador fans always this over-compensating about picking the most bland clan imaginable?

The dlc (if there is any) is going to be fucking shit. Don't expect them to integrate it with the game very well. It's also supposed to be free so that tells me it's going to suck even harder than your usual Paradox dlc. If they were going to do Nos and Gangrel any justice they'd already be in the base game.

yes but mots (not all) disciplines have two powers to them. for example nebulation has mist shrowd and the mist inhale trap and chiropteran lets you glide and summon a flock of bats

AHHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I knew the incel posters were trannies

The most bland clan is a tie between Brujah and gangrel

We already know the game is going to be bad. We're just flinging shit now. I mean I hate forced politics in my games but it won't be the worst thing about this game unfortuntaely.

they already confirmed that free clan dlc is a thing from the get go. i wouldnt expect those to be anything new storywise per se but rather a new clan to play the based game and paid dlcs with.

And what will the regular disciplines have? It looks really damn lackluster imo.

Where my Chantryboys @

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>Gangrel
>bland
First time I’ve heard that wtf is wrong with you

Clans like Nos and Gangrel almost necessitate unique gameplay and dialog. It's going to be shit however they include them into the game.

How the fuck is a guy who isn't working on the project going to influence anything. He's not just going to magically "influence" hacks into quality writers from a far. You don't just read a fucking article and become a good writer. Whether or not the writing is good has already been decided years ago.

Gangrel are one of the more unique clans especially among the Camarilla. Toreador, Ventrue, Brujah and maybe even Tremere are your basic bitch faggot clans.

Kuei-jin are horribly for a boatload of reasons.

>gangrel

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The first game had more clans and more disciplines in total.

He's referring to the game, not the tabletop.
They are bland in the game.

He has a much bigger role in making Dying Light 2, which I look forward to.
But like this game and many others his role is sadly minimal

They have already said that the reasoning for having such a tiny amount of powers is having too many would get complicated.
Basically they are lazy

Strictly in terms of gameplay? Yeah I guess but even then they have Protean.

Malkavian is always fun.
Kindred tend to hate the Salubri, Cappadocians and Baali more, while kine tend to hate the Nosferatu and Samedi more. Also dhampir and abominations are KOS in most locations.

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I love the air of summer night around the beach, I don't think Seattle will be the same, but maybe a winter based adventure through town will be nice.

Which is why the game shouldn't be being made to begin with, especially not with how White Wolf and Paradox are. Also I like how people conveniently forgot that We Eat Blood was a game that was made. Paradox already proved that they will make it political and they will use it to push an agenda.

I don't care that it wasn't Paradox developing it, the publisher has final say on what goes where, they could have stopped it from being essentially tranny vampires killing Republicans at a gay bar. And don't get me started on the Mage: The Awakening game they made. How getting raped by migrants helps you become a better wizard I don't know.

Gameplay and story, yes. The game doesn't really capture the Gangrel experience very well so it just plays as a slightly weirder Brujah.

It's better in PNP. Psychic combat, aura manipulation, telepathic communication, psychometry, the list goes on.

But then you remember that Auspex, Fortitude, Presence, Potence, Celerity and Obfuscate where all literally just passive buffs that you activated.
Leaving Animalism,Protean, Dominate, Dementation and Thaumaturgy as active disciplines.
And Protean literally just deprecates previous levels of the discipline after 2 while Dominate and Dementation have incredibly little in terms of difference

>story
Not really an argument since the game doesn't capture any clan experience very well. Even Nosferatu and Malkavian were sort of half-assed.

It’s an easy cashgrab made by literal who shovelware devs.
I just look forward to seeing just how bad the game will be when I pirate it, and I almost never pirate games.

But then you remember the devs saying in recent interviews that they don’t follow the tabletop too closely, hence the made up thinblood powers.
What is their excuse for not having more abilities for the clan disciplines then?

But they are much better than the Gangrel. At least in terms of uniqueness.

As a Toreador I got a kick out of small things, like prostitutes making me pay less and Gary seething at me.

>It’s an easy cashgrab made by literal who shovelware devs.
I'm sure Paradox made their, to quote, "biggest investment ever" to get the WoD IP just so they can contract shovelware devs to make one cashgrab.
Do you have even the slightest idea how buisness works?

Yeah? Look at Disney and Star Wars.

I agree which is why I always played Nosferatu or Malkavian. The other clans just got boring.

I was arguing against what the first game did.
>What is their excuse for not having more abilities for the clan disciplines then?
None of the abilties directly correspond to the p&p ones because you can't use those mechanics in a videogame as they are mostly freeform

They're not in it for the money, they're in game development because they want to push an agenda. That's a problem with aspects of both the Left and the Right - they can't help but make everything about their ideology. I don't want politics from EITHER camp in entertainment unless it makes sense in-game. But it never does unless it's something like a simulation or a 4x, with notable exceptions like Liberal Crime Squad, Phucker in the Gulag and illegal crime game, but no one in the mainstream would have heard of niche titles like that under most circumstances.

That's fair. I always played Toreador.

Have you seen who is making the Werewolf Apocalypse game?
They are literally just handing the IP out to their garbage tier devs.
Also the other Vampire game is getting made by devs I can’t even fucking remember, the devs behind that Telltale like game called council or something.

And no shit it’s their biggest investment, what else have they invested in?

yes

>I played VTMB1 for the combat

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Oh I agree with that, but the first game was also a bit of a mess in many aspects at release.
You’d just hope that the devs making the sequel would improve upon the first one instead of just downgrading entirely.

>Also the other Vampire game is getting made by devs I can’t even fucking remember, the devs behind that Telltale like game called council or something.

unironically the most promising one

Is their game worth trying? I have seen it in sales a few times but never heard about anyone who played it

>Werewolf: The Apocalypse from the creators of Blood Bowl, Tour de France, Basketball Manager, Styx and Call of Cthulhu(2018)

>The game will put us in the shoes of a Fianna tribe Garou named Cahal and set us up against the secretive Pantex organization (run by vampires) that is destroying the natural world through the every-hungry exploitative corporate machine. Cahal will have to overcome the threats posed by this group, all the while having to uncover the fate of his missing son.

>Dominate being able to command people outside of dialogue
>active abilities in every discipline
I don't see how it's a downgrade.

>forced first person is an upgrade to VTMB1

>The player will be able to assume three forms: Homid, Lupus, and Crinos. Sadly, Glabro and Hispo seemingly won’t be in the mix, but that’s probably because there’s no way to meaningfully incorporate those forms into the mechanics.

Listen every other complaint is valid but forced first person is not. Third person is dogshit just play it in first person like everyone else.

Designing both first person and third person in a single game is hard work, have some sympathy for the talented and critically acclaimed developers of Hardsuit Labs.

thank god user is here to tell me if my opinion is valid or not
take your first person and jam it up your loose colon

Eh, Styx was a good game and Call of Cthulhu wasn't awful. I'm expecting a mediocre action game with rpg elements. The true problem is the publisher and they might go the epic exclusive route(it was a forgettable AA game that no one played).

You'll play first person and enjoy it faggot.

You're gonna eat my entire ass and like it in third person

still a cuck ***

>dude look all the cool skins and outfits you can get for pre-ording the totally not jewish deluxe editions and by referring people to our website. They will look great on your customized character in first person
Literally what is the point?

>not killing Jeanette
>willingly letting yourself get mogged by other vampires

>you will enjoy this pile of trash
lol

Therese is the better girl clearly.

I assume you'll be able to view your character in third person at some point. I don't really care honestly I'm not going to buy this trainwreck. All I know is I prefer first person over third person.

user hates options and fetishizes sign language

You will see your character during takedowns like the new Deus Ex games, and it will be jarring and bad as fuck.

>the secretive Pantex organization (run by vampires) that is destroying the natural world through the every-hungry exploitative corporate machine

it sounds like sjw bulllshit and it probably is, but that sounds like werewolf. just need a wolfxwolf sex scene

>no character creation
fucking retards

>wife’s son

I'm not into werewolves so eh