Smash'N'Splash 5 thread

Let's end this discussion RIGHT NOW, Yea Forums.
Does Joker carry players, or does MKLeo carry Joker/Lucina/Ike/Wolf?

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Gladly.

Agree, its pretty obvious Leo is gonna win at this point.
Last night pools were way more hype with the bowser shit.

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Jesus Sheik is bad in Ult

at this tourney? probably not

How do we fix him?

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Samsora is so broken because of Joker that he didn't even enjoy winning.

Man joker just saps the fun out of the game.

How do 64boomers manage to be the best Smash fanbase?

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>tw33k
>freesam
>Light skin
>Hype
Shut the fuck up, Marss is hype dude to his autism

Ally.

He lost against MR.R(Snake) and Salem(Snake) not so long ago.

Sheik requires so much precision in this game. Holy.

hi i just came in. wasn't tweek supposed to be really good? but he drowned in pools?

what happened tweekfags?

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MKLeo carries them, but they're also really good characters. Except for Ike, that was just because of matchup inexperience.

>olimar
i sleep

so is joker top tier or what?

honestly I was tired of Ultimate but I'm enjoying this tourney a lot
but I'm also drunk as fuck right now

Mars just looks like he's dead inside now.

Holy shit this game is trash 2.0

this game would be fundementally shit in design if someone can fake these extremely consistant top placements with different characters when no one else can

idiots, all of you.

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FINISH THE JOB DABUZ
BREAK HIM FURTHER

Ally
Marss
Leo
all hype imo
ESAM was at Dreamhack
Light is washed
Tweek, I don't know

All those characters are easy to do well with, but Leo is the best

>esam
>hype for freesam

keep trying

64boomers just sort of sit in the corner and do their own thing. They don't bother participating in the game wars.

Needs more data. There has to be Smash 4 Cloud-tier results at best in order for the former to be considered. Otherwise, it's just Leo being Leo

Reminder that Leo thinks Joker is broken and is proving it

he bended his twinkass to the wizzrod

MKLeo carries Joker, but Ike, Wolf and Lucina are all either top tiers or very high. Joker is strong too but MKLeo makes him look busted.

Inb4 salty Ikefags start shitting themselves trying to pretend their character is balanced when Mars flexes Ike because he can combo and kill lightweights off of 3 nairs into uair.

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Leo carries Ike but the answer is neither for the rest of the characters

joker is good, hes not broken like retards claim

tweek is inconsistent, esam is forever a choker, and light is an overrated hack but they're still hype
more exciting than optimal players like leo who just go for the safest option every single time

HOW THE FUCK IS TRIHEX STILL ON THE MIC WITH HIS TRASH COMMENTARY?!

coney with the chad warden everytime kek

Give it to me straight, Meleefags, did you guys really believe Brawl could've been Melee 2?

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based

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he has rough tournaments sometimes
this also happened at Ultimate Nimbus a few months ago

>Coney with the Chad Warden reference
You're alright, Coney.

>mars hates fighting joker
>has to run it back against dabuz
odds of him quitting ultimate?

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MK Leo carries Joker. The same way He carried Marth in S4. And the same way he carried Ike in Ult.

Ike is good and simple but not nearly as good as everyone was complaining about.
Leo has strong fundamentals so he was carrying Ike a little bit, combined with the newness of the game at the time.

>did you guys really believe Brawl could've been Melee 2?
obviously not because it wasn't, what did he mean by this?

All of those characters are decent at worst, Leo is just good at bringing out their potential. Maybe in the future we'll see a Top 8 of Joker mirrors but we're nowhere near that stage yet.

Joker is good, but Leo could beat Mars with any of his characters

Joker does have the data. Check out OrionStats, he's already sitting at #28 at 131 points. In comparing Ik, Stinkling and Olimar were below that during late February.

This tournament is a little shit because the meta has settled in an awkward place but all the obnoxious characters got nerfed so this is the last time well have this problem.

By being more mature basically

Who are the top tiers in Ultimate currently, I don't follow it closely

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GET TRIHEX OFF THE FUCKING MIC

That guitar looks like a huge ass.

All of you getting mad at Marss for deciding tweet his feelings are bunch of bitches. He didn't john like leffen. He expressed his feelings on jokers and you bitches would do same.

How many of you complained about olimar and inkling being broke or bayonetta back in smash 4. There's nothing wrong with expressing how you feel.

As for giving up the match. Nothing wrong with that either. He's down a game and behind a whole stock. There's no way he's winning this game let alone the set and neither would you.

>him

I want regiposting to be a thing now

Well there was no precedent of Sakurai sabotaging his own games established yet so why would wouldn't they hope for the best?

>ultimate

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Snake and Snake.

After that tweet from marss I want his sore loser ass to lose

They just do their own thing. They don't participate in the "WHEN'S MAYLAY" and "TAKE A SHOWER" shitflinging.

don't people complain about how brawl was intentionally gutted for compfags

snake was untouched

>that voice crack
someone please help coney out, jesus christ

any pics of regi and leffen together?

Remember when everyone swore Inkling was broken? Lmao

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I believe the first demo for Brawl was much closer to melee than the final product was, at least according to people who playtested it. When it came out, however, it was obvious that it was no melee.

Snake
Wolf
Olimar, but probably no longer
Peach/Daisy
Palutena
Lucina
Pichu

there are some other characters that are really good, but those are the super clear top characters

I kept lookingbat this thinking he was sticking his bare ass up but I realized it was a guitar and now I can't see the ass anymore

Kys, Marss. You are fucking pathetic.

They just play their game without sperging about other communities

yes, and? before the game came out, people assumed it would because they had no reason not to believe that it wouldn't be. but then it came out, and it was complete garbage, and eventually people started playing melee again.

>Voice crack
He's just hoarse as fuck from having to commentate top 8 more or less by himself

They're just daydreaming about combos, no potential to be annoying.

He's getting fucking hoarse, this is so bad
It's amazing how much he's still putting in though, what a great commentator

Snake isn't obnoxious? Joker is already making his way there too.

>Marss suiciding and bitching on Twitter
>also Marss two stocking Dabuz
guys I have conflicting feelings on Marss atm

if leo was white and american he'd be more loved

Too much drinks.

Stinkling is broken and these rounds of nerfs will make it rise up the tier list

After this patch:
Wolf, Peach, Inkling, Snake, Pikachu, PT, Joker?, Wario, Pichu still probably, ZSS, Palutena, Luncina, and some others that don't really have the result yet

Dabuz is losing it.

she is still like top 3, especially after the patch

everybody was ready to jump ship to brawl because the thinking was it would be another jump like 64 -> melee. And then it came out and the rest was history

Me too. I miss the ass.

Isn't mars that baby who started yelling at an audience member mid match?

Salt driven marss is a force to be reckoned with

Remember when Chrom and K.Rool were considered broken?

I know this is an Ult thread now, but I fell asleep after AMSa Wizzy. Were there any good sets that were fun to watch and not carried by someone being upset?

Rosalina is fucking gigantic what the fuck

shut the fuck up and never attend a tourney, not even a local, with that pussy mindset
weak ass redditspacing nigga

He and Leffen have a lot in common.

Not really? I refuse to believe it until 3/8 players in Top 8 have a pocket Joker, in which case we got a problem

shut the fuck up marss

Olimar
Snake
Peach/Daisy
Wolf
Lucina
Inkling
Wario
Pichu
Pikachu
Greninja
Palutena

if he had any semblance of a personality he'd be more loved
dude makes wizzy look like george carlin

>Inkling
>top 3
No sweety

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Snake, Olimar, Peach, Pichu, Lucina, Inkling, and possibly Wolf.

This.

no that's leffen

U U U U

Bros I thought Rosalina was shit tier

that's why she's best girl

inkling takes skill to play unlike most of the other top tiers

t. woomy main

You all forgot Fox.

Void recently picked up Joker, Tweek was using Joker, Wishes is dropping PT for Joker, Dyr dropped Stinkling for Joker and those are some of the top players that I can recall that are using Joker.

That list is so wrong in so many levels...

Well, you had Wizzy beating Hbox, if you're into that sort of thing.

>Snake isn't obnoxious
yes

"Man Rosalina just saps the fun out of the game."
coming soon.

Tournament's not running 3.1, so right now it's
Wolf, Snake, Peach, Olimar, Pichu
3.1 nerfed all of them but Snake, but it's too early to say if the nerfs made a major difference to them yet. Olimar's pretty fucked though

This is the latest official tier list

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The only top player using her is Cosmos, who doesn't opt to use Splat bomb or Splattershot effectively
I've talked to top players about her and the consensus is she's top tier but boring as shit to play as

Not even the shitter known as light can get decent results with him

That's the average of all 3.0 tier lists. This list was released 9 hours before the new patch and it was inline with the characters that recieved nerfs

>Official
There is no official tier list, that was just calculated purely from tournament results.

>shulk
>top tier
you crazy

At least that one would actually be true.

>Fox
>Peach/Daisy
>Pichu
>Lucina
>Wario
>Snake
>Olimar
>Wolf
>Palutena

There are other good characters like Pikachu and Inkling but those are the tip-top agreed-upon best characters.

dabuz is good enough to make it work

And how many of them have won with Joker? People were picking Ike when Leo won a tourney with him, doesn't mean Ike is top tier.

I don't consider Fox top tier. I consider him high tier.

Yeah, I’m just afraid that it won’t actually be interesting to watch, and is just cool cause Wizzy upset Hbox

Light is the only top Fox
Just like Cosmos with Inkling

Yeah, no. Snake is the best.

Yes Fox too

I wonder how this will look post patch. Wolf anr the princesses obviously aren't dropping. Pichu might take a hit. Olimar is currently experiencing growing pains. literally

What characters are in ulti top 8?

What is this, Waifu wars?

APOLOGIZE TO MARS RIGHT NOW

>Early Ult tier list

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>Luma already dies to everything
>they nerf her stamina in 3.1

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so that BUZO means buz olimar?
damn thats so deep....

you sure about that

Why is Palutena so fucking hot bros

What happened to K Rool why is he trash now

I've attend many local tournaments and will continue to do so. Its not about mindset its about Yea Forums giving shit where it isnt deserved. Yall talk a lot of hot shit sitting in the spectator seat, but don't ever consider the perspective of the player you're giving shit.

Wasn't there a version after this? It was released right before the patch while this was released right after Joker came out.

...............macbros..........................

>dabuz starts doing way better when he switches to mommy gf characters
Based

I take it this is post patch. Also nice order of when they joined the series

If it was calculated from tournament results Shulk wouldn't be so high. It's a tier-list average.

she's mommymode

huge hurt box
bad frame data
linear recovery

>Stinkling
>Requires skill
Shit is an easy mode character with super safe options. All these worthless zoofilic pedos do is spam bair all day and fish for grabs while abusing dash dancing

>Shulk
what the fuck am I reading

Marss is kinda cute tho

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he was always trash

No it was not, it was averaging out the tier lists of all the top players.

commentator's curse always wins baby

yea he destroyed samsora with rosa at summit

Waifu powers give him strength

You're never getting smash 4 luma back

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people underrate Mac, at least he has some ok results.
Kirby is the worst character in the game, literally no results at all.

Yep. Dude gets really whiny really fast

Wizzy beat Hbox in Melee grands and got Falcon his first ever supermajor win in 17 years.

>he doesnt know

The fact Nairo and Dabuz sorta play the same character is so sad

Joker is still new dumbass. He's only about a month old and even so Leo already won an s tier tourney with a solo Joker run and he might win another. Other pros weren't picking up Ike and even Leo said Ike was gonna drop out of the meta during genesis

if that's based on tournament results then how the fuck is shulk top tier? nobody uses him

This.
This top 8 is proof how everyone is using Inkling and just how broken she is.
smhtbhfam

That's pre-patch but I don't think that much changes in practice, aside from Olimar's (unintended?) shield nerf which might be enough to make him drop a tier or even due to how much it hurts him.

>trihex on commentary
why

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That was great. And Rosa is somehow better thanks to the new patch. Dabuz is thinking in that too. Because Olimar isn't that good anymore.

Muh potential.

please for the love of god 3-0 dabuz

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stop white knighting dude, if you wanna vent just keep that shit to people close to you instead of taking it to twitter like a twat
he was being passive aggressive towards some random ass follower on twitter for daring to disagree with him, that's diva mentality
also it's never ok to ragequit, learn some sportsmanship

That's just an issue with the tier separations. No one sane puts 14 characters in "top tier".

Marss touched my breasts when I was at a Wii U tourney 4 years ago and only 16. He is a pedophile so please don't cheer him, thanks.

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HE'S GONNA JUMP

Dabuz only has faith in Rosa because Kirihara was putting in work.

Greninja the eternal meme. He must require 300 IQ because I always see him as "top tier" yet nobody gets results with him

DON'T JUMP

dabuz has big hips made for impregnating

>Olimar cuck player gets destroyed with 3 different characters
God fucking bless

Everyone in the NE plays Palu, bitch is braindead

Leah is pretty good, he just never leaves Japan.

Reminder that ZSS got buffed

Please kick trihex off for grand finals

Hes really on top tier cause of Stroder

based

he had Joker PTSD thanks to Momocon and lost to Wizzy in winners and a Palutena in losers

top tier doesnt have a character limit dumbass

This. He's average.

No matter what now, ultimate is saved

GET HIM OUT

OUT OUT OUT

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Based

Seems like players are finally starting to realize sticking with one main character is a death sentence (unless you're Leo).

Dabuz is based tho

It's all on paper stats. It's why some of these lists are worthless except for characters that have actually gotten results.

CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE GIVE CONEY A GLASS OF WATER AND SOME HALLS BEFORE HE LOSES HIS FUCKING VOICE

>"last tournament as Olimar"
>ends up having to fall back on Rosa and Palutena and going 0-3

What are some games where the antagonist is only one due to circumstances and is otherwise more sympathetic than the hero?

What exactly are Palutena's weaknesses? It seems like she can do everything decently well and has giant lingering hitboxes that are hard to challenge up close.

Why is Trihex STILL FUCKING HERE?

After this patch:
he's coming

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Why nobody plays Link?
Why Salem abandoned my boy..?

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that's the weirdest fucking thing man
her down b was already good and now they made it better

Stroder, Lea, JW etc have all had great runs with Greninja

But he was beaten by someone who sticks to one character

BASED AND PEDOPILLED!

irony the post

Dabuzs Palutena isn't that good, that's why she came out last. His Olimars been getting him everywhere.

Shotos are still low tier garbage

Dabuz is a cool guy, he just loves to play campy characters and doesn't give a fuck if people dislike the way he plays

Jack of all trades master of none? I mean she does everything well but she doesnt really excel in any one area.

Shes an all-rounder i guess.

>implying Smash players can pull off combos with DP motions
lmao

Inferior to Snek in trapping/CQC

Despite what you think, she is rather weak to rush-down characters. She needs time to setup and poke.

he was never an antagonist to me
Why do people antagonize players based on the characters they play? Fucking brainless assholes

Bad recovery
Too slow

The poor boy has to compensate for his shit co-commentator

you're gonna suck this dick real soon

The "buff" was only reverting a change to it that was introduced last patch

Requires spacing to be great. Any characters that outspace her or zone her will make her struggle

Low range, no really great kill options. She's an all rounder kind of character, but a pretty good one

post feet

he should pick up D3

Her down b wasn't supposed to get nerfed in the first place, it's now back to what it was before 3.0.1

Slow startup on nearly everything that isn't nair.
No reason to play a hybrid zoner/swordie when Wolf exists, Lucina is also an extremely braindead pure swordie.

She's absurdly one-dimensional.

Salem dropped him because he said Snake is better Link
the only top Link left is T from Japan I think

I want to believe but something tells me he and Ryu still won't get many results after the patch. Either from being too difficult to use or too situational.

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Everyone who switched around has cratered.

25th and 33rd at an A-tier event is pretty alright

Marss actually has some other characters including a Mega Man, don't think they've seen much use since his ZSS has blown up though.

and Izaw

no good ground moves really so she has to rely on aerials to get in
her aerials are fucking nice though.

Will we start seeing Fatality more often now that Falcon was buffed and his worst matchups were nerfed?

there's that one French guy as well, but he's been maining Link since like, 64 I think

Smaller characters like wolf, mario, and pikachu really give her trouble because they can low-profile her aerials and punish.
no

Because the characters dictate the experience of the game you brainlet. Are you going to be dense and act like character choice doesn't affect player and viewer experience?

His remote bomb just isn't good enough to carry him through his weaknesses. Maybe let him have an option between round bombs and square bombs would be a good start.

>Izaw
>top
no user, no

I hope so, fatality is hype

I fucking hope so
any game Fatality plays he's always a joy to watch

He's not buffed THAT much, grabs in this game still suck ass which will always hold him back

People need to stop thinking that a character getting buffed fixes all their problems. Until CF gets a better initial dash and a change to his Up B he's nowhere near his Smash 4 self.

People act like someone's character choice dictates who they are as a person.

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its a shame too, link is one of the few cool high/top tiers

But T is not that great too

I like smash no matter what characters are playing.
Retards like you complain about the "toptiers" whoever they happen to be at the moment antagonizing people to the point of actually hating them and attacking them with seafood
You are sick

Why'd people say he was on Adderall?

there better be a fucking commentary switch

Why invest in technical characters like Shotos, Rosalina, ICs and Shulk when you can just get play an easier to play generalist like Wolf and Lucina and get the same results, except more consistent

joker is high tier at the very worst, he just has so many ridiculous tools

falcon will never be relevant in ultimate because he doesnt have any of the broken shit he had in older games where he was good
>can't tech chase like his melee self
>doesn't have a good initial dash and extended sliding dash grab like his sm4sh self

Who seriously thinks that?

It's time for /ourboy/

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The crazy eyes and generally twitchy strung out look i'd guess? I think its just how he is though

Every buff helps though, and buffs were what made characters like Mewtwo rise from trash tier t top tier in smash 4

His serious face is very strange. He kinda bugs out and stops blinking. So people joke that he's on drugs.

in japan he gets results western cuck

What a retard. It's not about "top tier", it's about play style and viewing experience. Stall game is consistently disliked across multiple sports/competitions. It's something analysts look out for in playtesting because it's known to kill player interest.

hbox has come to save the commentary

>trihex still there
well at least coney doesnt have to carry anymore

>Hbox
ahhhhhhhhh fuck my life.

>Hbox

>Trihex and HBox
Just end my life

based

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it's fun

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>sent in Hbox to save the commentary

I guess he is better than Trihex but they should just outright kick him off

it does in an entertainment medium. If you're going to play a fag character then prepared to catch shit. Elena, morrigan, guile, olimar, etc. It's the same for every game

>hbox
time for great comms
>OHHHHHH
>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH MY GOOOOOOOOOOD
>OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>*girlish squeeks*
>OHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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Arsene feels just a little too easy to get. Other than that I think joker is pretty balanced. At this point we have to accept that leo is just OP

Please. snake is the next target for some fixing

>OMG SO MANY NERFS TO PICHU RIP PICHU REEEEEE
>still top tier

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>hbox

Well its better than trihex i guess

based hgod swooping in to salvage this dumpster commentary

>HungryBox
Ultimate is saved!

What? Yea Forums cant bitch all they want about who ever they for what ever reason want but they cant be called out on their own bull shit? This isn't about marss its about Yea Forums being a big bitch and im tired of it. Constantly giving people shit without considering their perspective on it.
Its not a rage quit he didn't throw his controller or catch a fit. He SD, fist bumped and went on his way. Its not bad sportsmanship to give up either.

Hbox saving the commentary

trihex getting mogged on commentary by hchad

the fuck is viewer experience?
What are you talking about?
If you like smash you dont care what characters are playing

That's what i was thinking. He's absolutely average but lightyears better than Trihex. Favorite with /ourguy/ Coney is definitely TK though.

wtf?

Well at least Hbox actually says more than "oh my"

>hbox actually good on commentary
I'm kinda glad they sent him in to save Coneys poor voice.

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these guys dont actually like smash, theyre just esports hypebeasts

hbox is a much better commentator than that tempo faggot

>Thinking that's post-3.1.0 when Olimar's also still top tier

for someone so hated hbox is pretty charismatic, oddly enough

Or joker is actually broken and you dotards are making excuses

At the very least with Hbox on commentary Coney doesnt have to carry the entire conversation

Trihex just got cucked lmao

hbox actually has done a fair bit of ultimate commentating

Coney losing his voice lmao

BASED HBOX SMOTHERING TRIHEX

God Leo is so fucking GOOD

HE
IS
MEXICAN

Why is Hbox so good at commentating a game he doesn't even like that much

>hbox blesses commentary to save Coneys voice
>nigger is silent
thank you hbox

HE
IS
MEXICAN

>HE
>IS
>MEXICAN

HE IS MEXICAN

Trihex hasn't said a fucking thing. Thank god

>No matter the matchup, he is Mexican
What did he mean by this

He doesn't even blink.

is this match to negotiate the USMCA trade agreement

>joker
How bad are you?

imagine if Goku was actually in smash

Leo would be invincible

trihex is so awful. who the fuck thought it was a good idea to put him as a pundit in a top 8? based hbox saving commentary

Ban all commentators for racism

Hbox is a great commentator actually.

>didn't say a single word all match

thank you juan

>he's not mexican
Explain yourself

he's just a chatty cathy in general

he is mexican

>it's not a ragequit unless it's a controller breaking tantrum
>not bad sportsmanship to not try your hardest and finish the match
>Yea Forums is one person
nah bro

Hbox loves to listen to the sound of his own voice. It turns out that this is actually beneficial for commentators.

hbox loves ultimate
he just can't pull the same results he can in melee on puff right now

The stupid fuck doesn't know a damn thing about the game so why anyone put him on mic is beyond me.

someone stop this madman!

Holy shit, I legit thought you guys were joking when you said Trihex was on the mic. I was watching for like 7 minutes before I finally heard his fucking voice.

>1st patch: Utilt sweetspot lasts longer
>2nd: bair becoming a kill move
>3rd: nades do less damage to shields aka buffing defensive Snakes
>4th: fixing jab
Nintendo knows Snake is the most honest character. So get fucked.

His clout got him on

Why is the viewership so low compared to melee?

Loudest kek of my life

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hbox is a decent commentator, way better than trimeme

he legitimately is
a fucking shit ton better than trihex at very least

its fun and good for attention whoring

>of the four characters I have in elite, three of them are the fucking bottom of the bottom tier, in a fucking row. K. Rool, Piranha Plant and Bowser Jr.
you people are a fucking joke. You need to get good.

waiting room

the melee crowd left

I'm just happy for Coney. The guy was probably going to die if he had to solo commentate for much longer.

oooohhh myy

Fatality just beat MVD at DreamHack Dallas, and he stuggles a lot against Snake, and this is pre-patch.
So I'm sure we'll see him more post-patch.

remainder to ignore viewerfags
but ultimate viewers doesnt mind watching some melee before their game, so as soon as melee ended all melee viewers quitted and ultimate viewers remained.

Twitch chat destroying trihex right now

Did Leo get fatter? Or is it the camera angle?

>not pulling out based mario
no balls from ally

hbox is really hype, why would anyone dislike him for commentary?

how is leo so far ahead of everyone else wtf

Oh god, Leo is just dominating Snake with his inferior Mexican genes.

OH GOD

L E O
E
O

holy shit the difference between leo joker and void is monumental.

I actually enjoy HBox losing his shit over hype stuff

>Everyone says Joker is mid tier at best
>Leo puts in work
>Suddenly twitch chat calling for Joker nerfs

God people are so fucking dumb

>slight nerfs make a character not top-tier anymore

wew laddius

looking good joker

>double spike

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Is Joker a bad MU for Snake or is this just Leo being Leo

because this is not the level of Snake we normally get from Ally at all

>11:44

>11:43

what the shit

>Joker isn't op he's fi...

Leo is just an incredibly player regardless of the character he plays. He could probably play Piranha plant and make top 16

balance patches were a mistake

I think what sets Leo's Joker above everyone else's is Leo is good with Arsene but he doesn't rely on him to do all his kills.

hbox's commentary is great, he's seriously saving this

>loses anyway

4 in the morning in europe. Good night, faggots.

Yea Forums is shit sometimes

Joker does great vs Snake

what is ally reading?

>trihex trying his best to say anything

Hilarious

this
once he retires from competing he should definitely commentate
he brings so much energy and knowledge

Word, way better than Coney losing his shit and Trihex going "yeah..."

Wonder how trihex feels right now getting overshadowed by Hgod

This, he's fucking nuts. I really think he's on a completely different level from any other player, that's why I don't like watching him because it's almost always a foregone conclusion

>Yea Forums is great sometimes
ftfy

also the only smash player who's gf isn't a trophy cosplay whore

based and boxpilled

>completely missed another tourney
Any specific Melee sets that are a must watch?

relief after realizing he was in over his head

...oh my god

>HE'S ALSO NOT MEXICAN

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He keeps up with it and is aware of how the scenes evolving while also still being the best at Melee. He knows what he's talking about, which when paired with Coney, who also knows what he's talking about, works well.

It really goes to show you how important it is to have people who have knowledge on the game instead of getting put on mic because of nepotism.

Plup leffen was really good

>dat double spike

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>a-at least I still have a twitch emote

What are these mexican comments?

Both really. Joker having strong grabs to avoid grenades and good projectiles, especially gun to break in during neutral makes the matchup pretty decent for Joker. The tether recovery also makes it that much harder to Nikita him offstage and his really good edgeguarding exploits Snake's terrible disadvantage, forcing him to recover high nearly every time.

winners finals and grand finals

he actually really likes ultimate, but he can't really play it and stay at the level of melee he needs to be at

HE'S DOING IT SIDEWAYS

watch the stream

Leo is the only Joker ive seen that doesnt rely on Arsen for his kills.

What is MKLeo anyways?

DOUBLE GOTCHA

double up smash

which is why his joker is so above everyone else's

Not human that's for sure

estonian

Mark Leo

I love watching Snake get bodied. He's a great character in general, but a stupid Smash Bros. character.

>double upsmash

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he's
M E X I C A N

god
this tournament is looking free for Leo, he's on a completely different level

this, he's not afraid to go in as base Joker at all

trihex getting brutally personality mogged

Post her

There's only one nerf that needs to be had. Holding counter is dumb as fuck.

he's mexican

But in return, his Arsene could be a lot better. He's not really abusing Arsene and his OP-ness as much as he should be.

Little bit of a little bit of b. Joker can deal with Snake neutral due to his gun and he's fast enough that if he gets in he'll fuck Snake up. Similar to Fox matchup.

fuck off faggot
you hate snake because he's a boring ass character
don't sugarcoat it

>hbox is too loud
>my feet hurt
>I wish I was at home, not playing Yoshi's Island

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Leo has been completely unstoppable since he picked up Joker

>HBox holding up Mango's 7th placed prize

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M E X I C A N

>trihex desperately trying to look like he belongs there
kek

He didn't have one before. Why did you think they dragged HBox into commentating?

t. Joker weeb

hchad showing mercy to trihex and throwing him a tiny bone before beginning the mogging anew

Why the fuck is trihex still even in the building, this is so funny to watch him just sit there and have nothing to say

my feet hurt
my teef hurt
my fete hurt
my tefe hurt

desu I feel pretty bad for trihex, Feels bad thirdwheeling when you know you are getting mogged

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kek

Yeah it feels like Leo grinds base Joker to the point he's godlike, but his Arsene mode is lackluster as a result.

he cute

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T. leffen

GO SAMSORA BEAT THIS FAG

with all the trihex hate, i wonder what exactly makes truly trash commentary? i thought its because he barely said anything and if he did, he didnt know much about the game

usually i dont focus on commentating im more worried about the game tbhhh but i wanna know your thoughts

Wait, was Samsora actually naked?

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Hope Marss gets brapped on

What is he thinking anons?

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what was hbox talking about with the naked dude, anyone got more info

I mean he needs to be aware of how in over his head he was when he signed on for this
dude doesn't even play Smash at a high level, he's known for speed running Yoshi's Island and Mario Maker for fucks sakes.

>65k
NO MELEEBROS WE CAN'T LET IT GET ANY HIGHER

>chad warden
the absolute madman

>ps3 make the best games

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twitter.com/Samsora_/status/1134512232426082311

Yeah I wanna see the naked gamer too. ProJared wasn't enough.

sam is legit the most effeminate man i have ever seen and he also says he's not gay

>my ass hurts
>hbox's mic is too loud
>I wish I was at home trying to find excuses for not streaming Yoshi's Island

Hoping marss wins because samsora would just get bodied by leo again
but marss probably will too so who cares

dude, just stop

a lack of contribution and being unentertaining
the point of commentary is to give you something to listen to in order to keep the viewer further engaged and provide insight on what they're doing
just reacting to things the players do without elaborating is bad commentary, and being completely silent with a couple words here and there is even worse and what he was doing

What's been up with the random minute-long viewer count spikes all night after matches are over
When Wizzy beat Hbox it jumped like 5k viewers after it was already over
When Dabuz beat Wizzy it jumped like 5k viewers
When Leo beat Ally it just shot up like 8k viewers

I hope Marss wins so I can see MKLeo suck out his soul again.

>damn, two coneys, imagine.

He lacks any real knowledge and says nothing of worth regarding the match.

Basically anything from local pools.
>nice back air
>dude I totally would've gone 2-1 if I knew the matchup
>clipping the mic every time somebody does something remotely entertaining
>anime reference

>hbox labelled as coney
lol

marss is already mental boom, he'll lose 100%

Is Samsora carried? Or does he carry Peach?

He barely said anything, leaving poor Coney to ruin his voice trying to solo cast the entire thing.

washed af, better jump on commentary asap cuz he's never winning a supermajor again but can't stand being irrelevant
he's been hosting/commentating minor tournies in his region lately

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sam is great

possibly the biggest metrosexual in human history

coney and his co-commentator cloney

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youtu.be/V2xkbUig3v8
Marth mirrors are my favorite overall matchup in every game

F E A T H A R P U B E S

There's no way he's straight.
t.gay

carried. Look at how shit he is with the turnips

based Coney with the top tier fetishes

Testicular Fortitude

he was totally referencing that wasn't he
truly, /ourguy/

kino

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HE'S GONNA JUMP

he bought a peach dakimakura

>Trihex desperately trying to get inot the commentary

This is fucking funny

based grace jones

Is MkLeo becoming the ZeRo of this game?
Can any of these people even beat him?

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>Targets
BASED

>Hbox calling out Marss for bitching about joker
Based

fucking hilarious

you would be surprised what a gay weeb will buy

Why are so many Smash 4/Ultimate players Gay? What caused this?

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I hope Pichu after the nerf is back to being the shitty joke character back in Melee, the fuck was Sakurai thinking

>the most infamous Melee player
>surprisingly good Ultimate commentator
I swear, HBox has two different personalities

just a byproduct of single motherhood

He's legitimately straight. A gay friend of mine tried to suck his dick and got shot down hard.

God I love Coney
He was like top 10 in Smash 4 where Peach wasn't that good and is only slightly better in Ultimate. I'd say a majority of his good performance is attributable to his skill.

Gross.

good points, good points. since this trihex guy is a speedrunner i was thinking: why dont they have numbers commentate? he knows the game better and hes a speedrunner too.

HE'S GONNA JUMP

based

How did trihex get on the caster desk anyways? Isn't he a washed up speed runner that relies heavily on anime to sell his channel?

>Target Test

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Gay icon characters are top tier

Mars waking up

Is it me or has there been a lot of parrying going on lately?

he's been using peach since brawl and 4

if this is his act of desperation then i truly feel sorry for him

God I miss Break the Targets bros

>You're not wrong there

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He's like the post patch ZeRo. It's crazy how Leo got so good with Joker so fast.

Its Pride Month

>What caused this?
Cute players like CaptainZack turned them gay. Can you blame them, though? I WANNA FUCK CAPTAINZACK AND MAKE HIM MINE, AAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHH!

Isn't the fag on the right a Smash 4 evo champ? I have literally not seen him since in ultimate. Did he retire or something?

he finished 33th or something in japan

He thicc

>a friend of mine got rejected so he must be straight!
Just like how all girls that reject you are lesbians right?

marss beat him at goml

People just pulse shield now if they know an attack is coming. Retarded AF that there isn't a system in place to not let this work

literal fag that got carried by Bayo in 4, tried to do the same in Ult but since she's shit now he got rightfully destroyed

Because Trihex is (or was) sponsored by Twitch. Literally nepotism.

he's nothing without Smash 4 bayo

taunting is 100% cursed

man look at mars fucking spazz out

No, Samsora is actually straight.

man, Marss is fucking up

Not even close. Leo loses tournaments. Zero went for a damn long stretch of time without ever losing a single tournament. He dominated Smash 4.

whooops
slipped an up special

someone clip marss screeching

is he going to bitch about Peach now?

BRACE YOURSELVES FOR THE RQ LADS

kek

marss about to chimp out and charge at the crowd

Marss is tilted from Joker still, it's over.

He's just super close to his mom, like she's his best friend and streams with him sometimes.

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to be honest marss usually wins most games he taunts in

zss sux

Look at the sort of stuff he says. It's clear that he's thought out entirely the sentence, says it, and shuts up afterwards.
Coney and hbox are able to continually expand on their sentences in reaction to what's happening. Their ideas are probably halfbaked in their heads, but they open their mouths anyway and string it together.

Captain Zack never won EVO. Lima was the Bayo who won EVO last year.

Man peach just saps the fun out of the game.

>if samsora wins he'll get destroyed by mkleo for the 10th time in ultimate
>if mars wins he'll just suicide and walk off the edge on the last stock against leo and lose regardless
can't wait

Model doesn't show enough skin

Man Peach just saps the fun out of the game.

Mars just got shook hard by Joker. Like, how mentally fragile he could be right after he got bodied so hard, he just gave up.

IS he gonna rage quit against peach

he actually won evo without dropping a single game

>He STILL cannot get over it
Oh sweetie, keep crying. Your tears sustain me.

Samsora is based and he can fuck my wife

this is literally captainzack

He just got 13th at this tournament going mostly Bayo, and Bayo is shit tier in this game

I beat Samsora on quickplay once.
Marss sucks

lmao at the chat shitting at trihex

that's cute

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they both still have to go through ally

You all got the crown slap and butt nerfed. You're not getting anything else.

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>zoomers shitting on what they can
what else is new?

Samsora's parries are incredible

cute

based low key top player user

Funniest shit I've seen from Twitch chat in a long time

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Coney sounds like he's completely losing his voice, HBox couldn't have come around soon enough

online and offline peach may as well be two different characers

Man peach just saps the fun out of the game.

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damn another 3-0

Trihex is literally HMW

3-0 damn
he'll never taunt again

i'm not crying about shit, i'm speaking the truth. why do you think all the Bayo players are gone? they didn't even switch to a new character. i remember watching one of the first Ult tourneys and there quite a few Bayos there, all went out by top 16 and were never seen again.

Man peach just saps the fun out of this game :\

"Man Peach just saps the fun out of the game."
incoming

>you will never be crushed by peach's ass
why live

Man, jumping really saps the fun out of this game

the dilapidated hooverville of marss

based and normpilled

>Trihex's arm posture and gestures
He's so uncomfortable holy fuck

If Bayo makes a comeback after some more balancing, I'll blame you for this.

Glad that piss baby got 3-0'd

At least he can laugh at himself