Smash'N'Splash 5 thread

>viewers drop by 10k
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

You now realize that Ally is probably going to win this tournament

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They're also appropriate
>58K viewers
Absolutely pathetic

>meleefags trying to compare grand finale viewership to top 8
sad

REMINDER THAT ALLY IS A PEDOPHILE WHO FUCKED CAPTAIN ZACK WHEN HE WAS UNDERAGE

BASED
A
S
E
D

Brawl has the best in-game crowd cheering so I'm okay with it

>Melee bigger then SF and Tekken
look at the sheer cope coming from these seething cringe Smeelefags, fucking yikes!

for real, theres not a single good game at evo this year besides Tekken.

God I wish that were me

Get out homos

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You think he'll beat Leo, lol
Based

3.1 can't come soon enough.

>melee is bigger than evo
is this what they really believe?

Are you watching, my dude? Do you spend your weekends watching streams you hate then complaining about them?

>completely ignoring a 10k drop

T-this is normal h-haha guys

Are you actually caring about some smash player's woman? Unless she gave your toes herpes after sucking them, why do you care?

so when does this get good? Watching one side chuck shit while the other does aerial WoPs can't be the entire game

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Literally nothing wrong with that

Watch ultimate get over 100K viewers at evo. While melee will be at a big whopping zero

i'm honestly surprised that ultimate's viewership has already peaked. even tr4sh, which was a much worse game, maintained consistently higher viewership than melee for like 2 years. hasn't even been 6 months for ultimate. yikes.

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Based and twinkpilled

this is all so tiresome, dont you guys get tired of the vitriol?

Good
eceleb children need to fuck off

>Viewer dropped by 50,000,000K
OH NO, WHAT'S HAPPENING BROS? IT'S ALL COMING DOWN!

>w-we'll catch up by grands!
Like at Genesis, Pound, or GOML? KEK

Reminder that this was a misunderstanding and they were only friends and doubles partners

is captain zack cute for you

3.1 it's just be SNAKE SNAKE SNAKE SNAKE

>thinking viewership won't rise when grand finals star
cope harder

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>20k views higher at the same exact place in the tournament
Are you retarded or do you enjoy being a dumbass

Olimar is such a shit character, thank you for 3.1

Watch Ultimate be dead and buried by Evo 2020 and Mr. Wiz comes crawling back to Melee.

Its a good thing, I dont want people that only care about the eceleb and not about the game around

Leo is weak to Snake

based ally

have fun not being at evo

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Melee got 120k views on fucking SATURDAY EVO. There's literally no chance lultimate can compete with Melee Sunday's 200k.

>Wolf got a slap on the wrist
>also ignoring how hard Falcon and Ken/Ryu got buffed

>it all keeps tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down

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Did these Smelee faggots fail math or something?
>Smelees only watch it for Wizzrobe
>He loses, they promptly leave
>this leaves Ultimate at 50~k, losing about 20~k
This just proves the "Ultimate waiting room" meme, you morons.

>coney cast

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viewership dropped 10k after the leffen/mango game you retarded faggot

It all depends on whos playing. Melee fans are very fickle as soon as Leffen lost to hbox there was a viewer drop. If wizzy hadn't of beaten hbox melee would've gotten 60K max.

pii---chu

brawl actually has the best everything aside from the actual gameplay

>best singleplayer
>god tier roster
>perfect fanservice that is the core appeal of such a crossover game (trophies, soundtracks, stickers, game demos, etc.)

one of the big ironies of people accusing meleefags of just wanting the same game over and over when they bitch about newer smash games is that I would absolutely love to have a game with all the great fluff of the newer titles with the solid mechanics of melee

not with joker he isnt

>he thinks Hbox won't have killed off Melee by the end of 2019
delusion...

2019 Melee has been super hype compared to 2017 and 2018. I think Sm4sh was lucky to exist when it did.

>Mang0 wins a major
>PPMD came back to life
>Falcon wins a major
>HBox 0-3 since the crab

HOMOSEXUALS FUCK OFF

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Hope this is what people wanted. You traded in Forward aerials for frame 1 grenades, up tilts, C4s and nikitas.

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Feels like Smash in general is declining as an e-sport. Not a lot of new people getting into it, just a bunch of boomers from Melee or Brawl/Smash 4.

SMASH ULTIMATE IS DEAD

ironic considering the literal physical embodiment of soi wojak is an ultishart player

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Melee fags are retarded subhumans.

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Nah, it's going to be the rise of Lucario and Diddy Kong.

>cringeker

why are so many meleefags just /pol/fags in a smelly disguise

>wake up
>samsora got knocked out by leo AGAIN
holy fuck this is what the 6th time?

>bragging about viewership numbers in a contest where one of the contestants aren't attending

That's like bragging about winning a contest where you where the only applicant. It also shows you're insecure about what would have happened if Melee did show.

NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE FUCKING VIEWS. GO BACK TO CONSOLEWAR THREADS YOU SHITPOSTING NIGGERS AND LET THE REST OF US DISCUSS VIDEO GAMES IN PEACE

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That's incorrect though, tr4sh never peaked higher than Melee at majors from the start too.

Snake and Olimar are easily the two least exciting characters to watch. Fortunately Olimar should be less of an issue in the new patch, but we'll probably still have to deal with Snake.

>posting this right as Hbox is 0-3 since the crab and Wizzy crushed him twice
Lmao at your life

literally rent free. dumb nigger.

Can we all thank the real savior of melee? If you think about it, whoever threw the crab was the true catalyst of all this for destroying hbox's confidence

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Cope you ugly meleecuck

Smash Ultimate? More like Trash Ultimate

voids joker is so lackluster compared to leo, hes not optimizing at all

>comparing secondary streams
why can't ultishit compete with main stream melee? why can't gimr stop being a kike and give melee main stream on top 64 days?

based bob ross

it's not rentfree if you spam every thread on Yea Forums with /pol/shit lmao
I just want video games

Is ally the best snake or is MVD?

the peach vs pichu was a similar case. People say that this is supposed to be a neutral heavy game but from what I've seen the neutral is pure aids

What was in that fucking crab?

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Ally and it's not really close

Smash Ultimate? More like Smash LULtimate

Ally is the original Brawl Snake so I'll go with him

Voids joker is kinda trash compared to LEo's.

I'd say Ally is a bit ahead.

V O I D

BASED

FUCKING

VOID

I want to fuck Akihiko.

He's probably barely put any time into Joker. His Sheik was the m2k Marth of smash 4 in terms of optimization.

void got his serial killer eyes on

Ally choked hard.

where'd you get that picture of my wife!?

>that Void Comeback
Waaaaaait a minute

Who do you think MVD played in Brawl?

No Joker compares to Leo's

Let's fucking go Void

>Quoting drag queens

youtube.com/watch?v=8MdaeCpIqmA

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>literally "bleeding victor" logic

based and vintagepilled

>Excuses
Cope

Someone please get Trihex off the fucking stand. Coney do it if you're reading this

That's cause Leo is simply better with base Joker.

Void is fucking nuts I really want him to win this set

>Melee and Ultimate are both good Smash games
It feels good being a Smash player these days. Some matchups are pretty bland in both games but when it's good it's good.

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Leo's literally Joker himself at this point

ultimate was on the secondary stream during pound and melee was on the main stream. ultimate still was winning when both games were streamed at the same time. melee is literally ultimate's waiting room

Salem is better than both.

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>meme meme
Exactly what I thought.

I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

actually only melee is a good game of those two

I wonder if Tamim said that because he fucked a 12yo boy and is hard projecting.

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Kek, has he still not changed it?

smash melee? more like smash smelee

Snake is such a cancer.
>grenade
>grenade
>grenade
>grenade
>up tilt
>what? You hit me? Too bad I was holding a grenade.

how long until joker is put into people's complaint lists

Ally is the first agressive snake ive seen

what exactly is good about ultimate, competitively speaking? I sure can't tell by watching

Holy FUCK Wizzy fucking WON Smash n Splash what the FUCK how is this real life?

Why do I always miss watching the hypest top 8's live fuck my LIFE to pieces

Watching the VoDs sucks shit

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That was the original video.

Someone...please...get Tri off the mic...

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cringe :(

this is the most hype tounrey ive ever watched!!!!!

>THAT snake
>aggresive

UNGA BUNGA

Ally is better than MVD. Salem is 2nd best Snake.

At launch.

And this is why Void will never win shit

I'm surprised he slipped by in 3.1. He's definitely the main target for nerfs next patch

You can literally hear Coney's voice start to die, god this other commentator is terrible

Smash wasn't made to be competitive, melee is boring too. You're just a retard blindly saying something is perfect because you personally like it.

That would be the most aggressive Snake you can even imagine

I am watching, and I find it pathetic that Ultimate viewership dropped by 10K simply because Wizzy left. Its especially pathetic when Ultimate got higher numbers yesterday

To be fair, its probably because of Trihex's shit commentary, or lack thereof.

......because ally exists?

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Before I open the stream. Let me guess. Snake/Snake finals are projected?

Seems Void was carried by Pichu all along.

TriHex isn't even a commentator, not even a Smash player either he's a speedrunner

He's not the original Brawl Snake, though. Ally pioneered the character's development within the first month.

why didn't they nerf grenades? that shit is much more obnoxious than Olimar

professor pro's PM snake was peak aggression

Void relied to heavily on Arsen, his base joker crumbled

worse
snake v olimar

Because he can't comeback from shit and can't adapt

uhm sweetie youre talking about trihex of TriHard fame, watch your mouth hon

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Nintendo's logic is all over the place. They nerfed Peach's backthrow despite it being decent at best, but Palutena, Ness or any one of the other kill throws stay untouched? It makes no sense what they do or don't touch. They buffed Snake's Up-tilt.

I’ve been listening to fucking Rod all weekend. Trihex, shitty as he is, is a breath of fresh air.

There's only one Snake in top 8.

>Smash wasn't made to be competitive, melee is boring too.
this is the textbook definition of "cope"

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currently 2-9 vs joker lmao

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It's a good game if you like neutral.

Do Grenades still come out frame 1 in Ultimate?

It was pretty magical. He had a great pop off, too.

Fun and entertaining...

HE'S GONNA JUMP

BASED

Would anyone have a picture of Snake raping Joker? Just for the giggles haha

need to nerf that dash attack while they're at it. it's too safe

Palutena and Ness arent as good as Peach. Also, Ness's killthrow is a staple.

>Implying Dabuz has a chance of making grands

Cringe retard

You are projecting pretty hard man. Literally never said anything about perfect, but it's clear as day that melee is a way more exciting and dynamic game even despite its oldness which is fucking sad

finally some good fucking joker

Nintendo looks more at their online data than tourneys. There's no point in comparing the top few % of the player base to the rest. Not many people can play Snake as well as MVD or Ally but yeah, Snake will definitely get some sort of balancing next patch since he will be reigning in competitive now that Pichu and Olimar get nerfed.

Please stop with the viewership autism. You can enjoy both games.

they can hurt snake himself, so that's probably why they havent been nerfed, but they do break several rules
>snake is a heavy that should be combo food, but grenade is a frame 1 combo breaker
>grenades are counted as items instead of specials, so they don't stale

Ally's Snake is the only hype one to watch
he plays fucking crazy

taking away Ness's backthrow is like taking away Akuma's air fireball

i hate both these guys

Did Tri just say he's hard?

I doubt Olim

What will happen if every smash player admits melee is better and plays melee? Will you be happy then?

Didn't he molest a girl too?

Marss is the only player left that can beat Leo.

Better back throw being gutted than losing my down throw combos with her imo.

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Proof it without a wiki page.

Do you really think I give a shit about what you retards think? The man sakurai himself hates your retarded game that should tell you fags that you are in the wrong. Who the fuck even plays party games competitively you have to be autistic.

TETRAKARN BITCH

Ultimate would be a much better game without Snake.

So is Leo just maining Joker and sticking with him? No more floating between like 4 different Sword characters?

Prof. Pro's Snake was a thing of beauty
>Still remember that Prof Pro vs Rolex MM

True, and I can still laugh at viewership struggling to beat 60K

And when the fuck will Trihex get off the mic, goddamnit. I guarantee you replace him with anyone, and viewership will rise at least 10K.

Leo's Joker is just on a whole another level.

The thing that seperates Leo from other Jokers is that hes just as good without Arsen than he is with it.

it's clear as day you need to take a shower, retarded cuck

Remember to cheer for /ourguy/ Marss

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did wizzy lose his ult bracket?
had to go just after the melee final

IGNORE ALL ANTI MELEE SHITPOSTERS
IGNORE ALL ANTI ULTIMATE SHITPOSTERS

marss looks like papa franku

People keep saying this but what exactly is good about ultimate's neutral? The movement isn't all that interesting and neither are the approaching options. I'd say it's neutral is easily worse than melee's, the punish game just isn't as strong so you have to play it more

It seems like Leo finally found his boy

rosterfags pls go

T H R E E S T O C K E D

Lucina is his back-up in case Joker gets hard-countered.

Leo's Joker is fucking CRAZY

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Snake, Olimar, and swordies
>Gets 3 stocked

Leo is disgusting.

HE'S GONNA JUMP

>Nintendo looks more at their online data than tourneys
If that were true Peach and Daisy wouldn't have been nerfed or as much. they're nowhere online despite being one of the best

But Peach's backthrow is mid-tier, why cripple that? Because she's good overall so they need to make her worse in areas that don't need fixing? This "everyone place nice" design philosophy Nintendo operates with is why all new Smash games end up slow and boring. They focus on how "unfair" good characters are rather than ask why the good characters are good and what the other characters are lacking. But all they end up doing is crippling the game experience universally for viewers and players.

HE'S GONNA JUMP
fuck this little bitch

Not happening unless he stops going for awful grabs.

Yes, flash back two weeks and people here were swearing up and down Joker was another Ike that he'd drop as soon as he started losing

Not really because I'm just shitposting.

It'd be better if Grenades didn't come out frame 1 and Snake were limited to one grenade.

Ally was better but MVD was there pretty much from the start, dude. I don't even like MVD, but they are both OG Snake players along with Razer

when will we see Isabelle in top 8?

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It's a tough call. Snake has three very strong top players who main him, which is something you don't really see in other characters.

Ally started off the game slow. But ever since early 2019, maybe about a month before Pound happened, Ally has taken off and started really clicking with Snake.

Not to mention the changes to Snake in the 3.0.0 patch were huge in Ally's favour (due to his Snake playstyle), and the 3.1.0 patch will also only help Snake it seems.

No.

Fuck off, viewership nigger.

And I doubt anyone would be able to play Joker as well as he can. His Joker gameplay is just so smooth.

joker is his main with lucina for the chu's

i mourn for marss, 3 stocked AND spiked

Is Joker good or it's just Leo who carries Joker?

Is there anybody on leos level? you guys said marss gives him trouble but im not seeing it

who gives a fuck what sakurai thinks? also why are you in a competitive game thread if you don't like competitive games?

>WAAAAAAAAAH PEOPLE ARE PLAYING A GAME DIFFERENTLY THAN THE CREATOR'S INTENTION AND HAVING FUN WHILE DOING SO AND THAT GOES AGAINST MY RETARDED REASONING HOW FUCKING DARE THEY RREEEEEEEEEEE
This is how idiotic you sound. Cope & seethe more.

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when isabelle gets literally anything decent in her toolkit

Except they did both

Marss lost before the set even began.

If Leo was carrying Joker he wouldn't be this consistent

Snake was slightly nerfed in the 3.0.0 patch when 4 frames of endlag were added to his Up Smash. And while I do believe that he was overall buffed in that patch, that was still a blatant nerf to his move.

Also, didn't Sakurai say that he won't really be changing characters anymore?

Nerf joker

After Void's performance, it's pretty obvious that its MKLeo carrying Joker

>Smash wasn't made to be competitive
But that's a fact

The Marss fears the mexican

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Marss isn't playing like his normal self here at all, he's flubbing the basics

>no 6 stock
that aint bowser

So who do we cheer for at this point?
Who is based? and who is cringe?

MARSS IS SHOOK

Leo could make any character look good

It seems like any character he picks up ends up being considered "good"
He's just really good, though obviously he isn't gonna pick an outright shit character.

Arsene is legit stupid. Not smash 4 top tier stupid but still noticeably stupid

Can u speak without dick in ur mouth

The lower movement options mean players have to mixup more to get a hit or grab in, but most characters have decent movement speed and the best characters have a lot of range. There's still plenty of room for reactions and reads in there, and making the right decisions in a row can mean quick stocks. I much prefer Melee but this is miles ahead of 4, at least in the not so campy matchups

This is why the fgc hates you fags. Have fun in your circlejerk while people play real fighting games.

Arsene Joker is seriously the best character I'm the game
But Leo is also the best player in the world probably
Zackray and Shuton are godlike, hopefully we'll see tmore of the Japanese soon

based

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Everyone is so fixated on Wizzy and Ultimate that nobody will notice that boomer HugS won Dreamhack Dallas with Samus. twitter.com/DIGSmash/status/1135261951146188800

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THREE STOCK COMEBACK HOLY SHIT

GODLIKE COMEBACK

No, retard, Sakurai said some stupid shit like "well, the Quickplay data shows every character's winrates to be about the same so I don't feel the need for balancing updates" which is stupid as shit since he said in an earler statement that the most used character is picked over 20 times more than the least used character, yet he thinks this isn't a problem,
Either way Sakurai had nothing to do with the balancing of Ultimate so nothing he says matters, thank god.

>blowing a 3-1 lead

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>shit talking marss the entire game
>he takes it back
cunts

Buff joker

WAAAAAAIT A MINUTE

Based Marss just pretending to be retarded

Yeah, he's the only one. Marss will win this.

Cmon MKLeo you fucking Mexican

MARS YOU FUCKING GOD

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Cringing hard at this artificial hype

so you have no answer?

Why is hugs even there instead of SnS? Dodging all the big boys lmao?

This top 8 kinda blows, VoiD is cool I guess

highway robbery

When Ranai decides to pick her up

>Won a tournament where the only notable player is a mentally challenged falco
nobody cares

The real stupid is how good counter is. Kill move and can be incredible active. If you do get baited to hit him, he gets arsene more quickly. It's SO fucking activem Jesus Christ. It isn't witchtime cancer but it's pretty dumb

I still don't think Joker is all that great
this is just a testament to Leo's ability

Dilate, dumb tranny

Remember when people thought Ike was good when MKLeo won tournies and then got downloaded and Ike is now considered a mediocre character with an above average nair?

>won by beating a literal tranny
bafes hugo

based hugo

Marss just fucking stole that game from Leo, which is kind of ironic considering Leo's character

>dtilting that tranny into oblivion
based hugs

Over no one relevant
Grands was aganinst that tranny

**Sumus

What is trihex even doing there?

trihex is sucking the life out of this

and cute Peach player MuteAce won Ultimate

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>no argument
also, who the fuck cares what a bunch of unregulated laggy waifu cockfighting community has to say about a party game turned competitive esport THAT ALREADY SURPASSES YOUR FLAGSHIP GAME AT EVO

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that was an uptilt

just got in here.
just wanna say wizzy had a great run in this major
amazing

fucking christ Coney would legit be better off going solo FUCK

>smash
>hype

>trihex

Jesus, Marss looks so stressed

thanks man I appreciate it

woo
wow
oh
yeah

why does marss down throw with zss? am i missing something?

after hugs became east coast hugs i can't root for him anymore

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Melee chad here.

Is /steveposting/ the most hype thing about Super Smash Brothers: Ultimate for the Nintendo Switch?

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what's scarflard up to nowadays

marss learned hoe to take advantage of base joker it seems

>mars starts just fucking punching his leg
rofl

Joker is pretty crazy imo. It's like a combination of Sheik and Lucina and Arsene is a combination of Ganondorf and the former two.

based hugo going to dreamhack just so the tranny can't win

He's playing against MKLeo, of course he's stressed.

>unregulated laggy waifu cockfighting communit
Smash?

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I feel stressed watching it, close sets with Marss drain your soul

He's a full time streamer now.

streaming sonic 06

footsies neutral bro.. aggression..

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supreme boomers in their natural habitat

man ultimates training mode is so ass.

>Do you really think I give a shit about what you retards think?
He says as he is posting in a Smash thread, replying to someone, and awaiting for (You)'s to continue the shitposting extravaganza
Really made me think.

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Literally who

wasn't aware he had a personality to sell

holy shit trihex has said capitalize 50 times this set

nothing will top melee's my dude, just accept it

Can someone please shoot Trihex? It'd liven up this commentary.

Being a streammonster and playing variety games for money

marss stole one game and got too cocky, hes done for

diddy wucked so he streams now
biddy buffed so he might return

>tournament match
>in winner's
trihex don't you have yoshi's island to ignore

how the fuck is arsen balanced? It's almost as bad as 4 cloud's limit

I swear every top 8 set Marss is in comes down to the fucking wire

Isn't that guy not allowed to compete?

He's great, but the difference between base Joker and Arsene Joker is rather huge. You need to play as good as Leo in base Joker to bring out his full potential, which is a very hard thing to do.

just be glad its not vikki instead

He spouts memes all day, perfect for streaming on twitch.

>"oh I like how he waited there"
>dude was literally just waiting for arsene to run out

>people actually think Joker is OP
lol

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when will we see ganondorf in top 8s again

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>SFV?
>Tekken?
>Granblue?
>DBFZ?
>MVC?
>Literally every 2D anime fighter in existance?
Even Ultimate's god-awful input lag is still better than SFV's input lag POST PATCH

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HE'S SUCH A LITTLE FUCKING BITCH LMFAO

I am glad that after all these years trihex doing anything to not run yoshis island is still a top meme

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Cope

>RAGEQUITTING LIKE A PUSSY
VIVA MEXICO CABRONES

he just gave up what the fuck

for the first year yes

>just walks off the edge
fucking LMAO

The brofist didn't even connect lmao

Marss no...
fuck I feel so bad for him

damn, marss is now the leffen of ultimate

>the city-state of Marss

HE'S GONNA JUMP

what a fuckin quitter

get out of the thread trihax XDDDD

Joker stole his soul

>giving up

>spend $5
>win every tournament

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>His neutral special is GUN
kek

Lol

When Nairo don't choke

damn ragequit?

Joker is good, but Leo is the best.

I don't blame anyone trying to wait out arsene if they can manage it

>ragequits
Is this more embarrassing than "HE'S GONNA JUMP!" ?

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Vikki would at least keep me awake, and she's not terrible if paired with the right person.

absolute pussy

Marss with the LTG special

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Leo is the best Ultimate player but Joker is also top tier. His Arsene is a speedy Ganondorf

Never

can u speak without ur mother's cock in ur mouth

>no based 27 inch
yikes

>ragequitting in top 8
Is this what autism looks like? It didn't even look like a blowout.

Why would you just SD
What a quitter

>his face when Joker stole his jump with rain storm
fuck

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Quick reminder that the best falcon EVER, and the current Melee champion bustered out at 7th place ( wich is pretty good for meleebabs, but still)

And this is why Leo fucking wins

I don't really get the hate for vikki to be honest with you, senpai

melee

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Mars just knew he was outclassed in every single way. There was no try, there is no victory, there is only gun.

Marss whiffing like crazy. Leo just avoiding everything. Leo winning this Tourney free. Don't see Ally beating him.

>Unironically thinking this
Where's Kermit when you need him? Meleeniggers truly are the worst.

I would rather listen to Vikki than Trihex.

can someone post a webm i didn't catch the rq

Does anyone actually like MKLeo?
There has been no match in which I have rooted for him

>Tfw he didn't jump

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...

>another game where dlc will be top tier
Does SAkurai just want to kill Ultimate again or something?

melee is hype
so is ultimate

Because he's just fucking ridiculously good? Yeah.

VAMOS PINCHE LEO!!!!

Zacatecas here

What's worse is in the second game he showed he could make a vomeback. he's just a pussy

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His Joker is pretty fucking cool to watch

But the thing is, Leo is so much better with base Joker than it's arguably better to go at him when Arsene is out.

>FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS

do better

The guy was clearly flustered like 80% of the set. Probably felt like he was playing like shit and just wanted it to be over.

Mvci is unironically more hype than melee

I mean hes a little boring personality wise but at least hes not an asshole.

I do when he is not playing his Marth clones.

AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

lots of people like leo, its just that he doesnt get the underdog support

based
both games are fun to watch for different reasons

IT BEGINS

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this, Joker v Snake feels like a bad matchup for Snake anyway

there's literally no one else playing Joker at Leo's level

Who is the perfect commentary to go with Coney? Trihex can't keep it up

>tossing nairs and fairs until something connects so you can hit a second one and then reset is hype

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Lol the Melee champion went out at 7th at a game he does as a side hobby.

hi marss
you lost badly
do you want to jump off?
if so, go ahead

How do you know it's one year?

leffen quit in top 4 once

I don't find it too hard. Having every aerial confirm into grab and pretty safely guaranteed 50% combos early makes it not too difficult to rack up damage for Arsene late stock, and his edgeguard game is even stronger in base form which I find crazy. Only maybe two other characters can edgeguard as well as base form Joker. Getting kills in base form is definitely difficult but setting up for edgeguard isn't too difficult with his set of horizontal launchers and fsmash kills really dang early. Arsene normally makes up for that lack as well.

her voice is grating as fuck. The non-substantial commentary is tolerable, like the rest of the mediocre commentators, but the voice kills it

Are he and leffen boys?

I don't think he's OP but if he can hang with a lot of the high tiers without his stand thing then that's pretty fucking great for him.

why do you guys in-fight so much
i thought you guys would've been happy that Smash gets two alive games while most games struggle to keep 1 alive

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I like him, he's chill and his gameplay is kino when he plays on point

Ok niggers, what makes MKLeo being so fucking dominant and good? I thought MEXICO was a 3rd world country with shit vidya players.

lmao
it's at least a year too early to go all bayo/puff on joker

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is it that hard for these fuckers to keep their mouth shut just after losing
surely they realise that they're all emotional and not thinking clearly

OH NO NO NO NO

Is there a SINGLE smash player who doesnt cry on Twitter whenever they lose? Honestly.

i rooted for him in this match because i hate mars

Your right. You good?

Someone save COney

>literally no argument
I'll take this as your concession, FGC peasant. Go back to banning Hitboxes and cucking your former legends.

oof. zss tr4shfag whining lol
git gud marss

Ultimate is not hype, at least nowhere near the level of melee

>ads in to a break
what the FUCK is gimr doing

It began a while ago and they felt joker needed a slight buff in 3.1 lol

Absolutely bodied, physically and mentally

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Persona and more Persona and more Persona, and also Persona.
He's clearly not even keeping up with Ultimate, he was "testing" out 3.1 and kept getting common known stuff about Diddy wrong over and over again. He was happy he could do things he was already able to do with him in previous patches. He also didn't realize how a lot of the changes would effect characters.

this level of fucking cope

>Dies to a flub
>Hype

cope

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N O
J O H N S

>Mario Sunshine music

a symptom of autism is not understanding why people enjoy things that you don't, so go figure

youtube.com/watch?v=o5ZWCZ-FecY&feature=youtu.be&t=1820
melee

he's not wrong
you have to camp Arsen joker but you really can't because he's so fucking fast and hits so hard
he's Ganon but fast and can always recover and has the best counter
Tweek goes on complete radio silence

Honestly, I feel like it can go either way. Leo hasn't fought a serious Snake as Joker yet and Ally had some experience against Joker so he knows the gists of how Joker fights.

most dont actually
but since they dont do anything you dont notice them

Does anyone have a clip of Marss rage quitting?

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Fucking baby salty quitter, you threw the match so your opinion is irrelevant

>drop melee for months
>train daily with mkleo salem and m2k
>side hobby

You just described most melee matches. Posting webm of a specific moment that it doesn't happen doesn't make it the norm.

Damn that's pathetic
To think I was rooting for him as an underdog

No amount of practice can beat innate talent. MKLeo has been winning Smash tournaments since he was 9.

>t. only watches lucinas and wolfs
watch ESAM's pikachu, a pokemon trainer player, Elegant's Luigi, or Tweek's Wario. There are deffo some crazy combo oriented characters in this game.

Its MKLeo, you faggot. People were bitching about Ike when Leop was winning with him, too.

Haven't seen that comic in a while

TK
K

He brought it back from high damage 1 stock just the other game, I don't know why he couldn't believe he could do it again.

Leo raped that guy physically and mentally

t. never watched melee

based 4.0.0 will nerf arsene and massively buff pic related watch.

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He's not wrong

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I actually think Jokers fun to fight

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I say this as a fan of smash as a series.
Something like 90% of the competitive smash community is legitimately autistic to some degree.

Coping at top 8? Your brain is rotted by memes. Post another one.

Get Rod and that other guy he was commentating this weekend to finish the rest of the tournament

Lost some respect for him now. Any baby who takes to Twitter after a loss, with a ragewuit no less is detestable.

>tossing nairs and fairs until something connects so you can hit a second one and then reset is hype
That's literally just Smash

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thats what i remember them having said back when all those japs pros announced their involvement in the games testing

absolute textbook fat ugly bastard hentai mindbreak

Oh nooo hahaha

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>Joker is already Bayonetta
>there's still 4 more DLC characters to go
yikes

I missed the salty suicide because i looked away no no NO NOOOOOOOOO

Meleefags have made it a personality trait of theirs that they're fans of "the best smash game and everything else is just a shittier melee" while other communities have been telling Meleefags to fuck off for a decade now.
Meleefags will just shit on Ultimate/Smash 4/whatever for no real reason while going "look how cool melee is! dont you wanna be playing Melee?! Please ignore all it's issues and just admit it's the better game!" much like is doing right now.

I watch both
There are many things you see people going yooo lets go for melee, but when the exact same happens in Ultimate people pretend it's boring

Joker carries players, he's not wrong.

>leo uses ike
>everyone thinks it's unga bunga shit
>leo uses lucina
>everyone cries for nerfs
>leo uses joker
>"IT'S SO BROKEN!"
LMAO

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Nairo and m2k beat the shit out of themselves and only themselves if that counts. VoiD, Leo, Tweek, Samsora, and some others don't often complain about losing matches. Honestly few do, but those few are often very vocal.

clips.twitch.tv/playfulrelentlesshamsterfrankerz

Activate Windows 10

based

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Because it relied on Leo making mistakes, which is so not happening again after that one loss.

to be fair he legit looked like he was about to have a heart attack after that game

I said this before, for a community that invented 'johns' as a term for making excuses for losing they do it more than any other FGC.

Iroincally that ice climbers player describes most of melees community

>Do you really think I give a shit about what you retards think?
You're the retard posting about how much you "don't care" on Yea Forums

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>It's a character is broken because Leo plays him tournament

That's why Ike, Marth, Lucina, Meta Knight, Roy, Greninja, or any other character with a sword is busted and wins everyone tourney right?

>happy that Smash gets two alive games while most games struggle to keep 1 alive
the whole idea regarding "the smash community needs to be united" or whatever other gay shit is unabashedly reddit as fuck

Not really, Leo plays like 5 other characters

Nerfing arsene to 20 seconds from 30 would be more than enough given how fast he charges from damage AND passively

Most players don't

Because it actually takes mental energy to maintain that kind of mentality and concentration. This is why people who get their sleep in and can meditate can stay focused longer. Everybody can pull a clutch moment occaisonally, it's holding on long enough to win 3 games that makes somebody a winner.

Joker has barley been out and he's already seething. Pathetic.

Why is leo so good? what is he specialized at?

What a pussy. And he's not even funny or cute, like Plup.

webm of the ragequit asap

Swordies are unga as fuck. yes, everyone has a pocket Ike/Marth clone.

Fact: ultishitters couldn't top 64 melee after 2 years of training for it

>tfw Ike player
I like Leo but him switching to another character was the best thing I could have asked for.
I don't have to put up with nearly as much nair whining and now Ike will probably fly under the radar for nerfs.

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>Go into Tekken/SF/VF thread
>People talking about the game
>Go into Smash thread regardless of what version its about
>Meleeniggers raging about MUH HYPE

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Nair is still stupid
There's literally no reason to use marth unlike how Roy and Chrom coexist
Arsene is busted

beyond all of that though. Sometimes you're just outskilled

Doesn't take away from the fact that Joker carries players. One thing does not negate the other.

smash 4 did a good job scaring people when it came to DLC characters

I don't care, because I'm in the right here. Smash is not a competitive game

fact: smelee will never be at EVO again it's time to move on

>Leo plays Wolf
WAH WOLF IS BROKEN NERF HIM
>Leo plays Ike
WAH IKE IS BROKEN NERF HIM
>Leo plays Lucina
WAH LUCINA IS BROKEN NERF HER
>Leo plays Joker
WAH JOKER IS BROKEN NERF HIM

This is hilarious, at some point you have to blame yourself for losing instead of the character.

microspacing and optimal punishes. If you've seen his smash 4 gameplay he abused perfect pivoting more than any other top player, and you saw how many of Marss' fairs were instantly punished oos after the first hit. So many other top players would just keep their shield on simply because they cant react to it or are too scared to. Leo's micro is way too good.

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Is that why Smashfags cry when their games are shit on?

is mvd from hawaii? he looks like that dude who sang over the rainbow

Didn't Wizzy smash Tweek who was using Joker?

I agree with Marss, Joker does sap the fun out of the game. He’s tedious to play against, and not even cool to watch after the first time. Oh man dair into upsmash to kill at 80 so cool.

is it possible to have a dignified advertisement during a smash tournament?
i'm not sure it is

I think the Lucina nerfs 3.10 brings will warrant some players to take another look at Marth
I know it's hard to be consistent with his Tipper in Ultimate but Marth does silly things if you can nail it

Fuck off, your character is still braindead as shit and still getting results, I hope swordies join Olimar in the nerf pile. Fuck no risk all reward characters.

I find it interesting how melee players are expected to crossover to ultimate, otherwise they're elitist fucks. Yet, I never hear from ultimate players trying or performing well in melee.

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t. marss
get out

can i blame the other person for being better than me

He's mexican Armada, a bit drab but a generally nice guy and extremely good.

>Upthrow rest
>Up tilt up air up air
I thought melee was supposed to be technically advanced?

>marth clone

I know he's he original but is it even fair at this point to address Lucina, Roy, and Chrom as "marth clones" when the original has no present in the meta currently?

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Has joker even been out a month? Imagine complaining about him already, Leo is the only pominent Joker lol

Ahem...

samsora is currently 2-9 against leo's joker.

This set will prove if leo carries joker or not

the haves are generally expected to give to the have-nots, not the other way around. the melee players being the haves, having a high level of skill, the ultimate players being the have-nots, being the opposite.

This Ultimate tourney is curing my insomnia

oh my fucking goodness
GET THAT TRASH NIGGA TRIHEX OFF THE GODDAMN MIC

>Yet, I never hear from ultimate players trying
Isn't that what people bragged about in sm4sh?

i thought he lasted 30 seconds, or was that without damage being taken into account?

Well the thing is that some of your pros like leffen actually tought they were hot shit, and talked trash. Where is leffen now? baack in the melee cuckshed.

right, just pathetic, hypocritical and pretty cheap honestly

same

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>more views than melee finals
defend this

Yes, because Void totally won with Joker, right?

Yes? They're still based off the same moveset and Marth is like a low A-Tier that MKLeo busts out at locals. I hate that Marthfags see Marth isn't taking tournaments left and right and instantly start screaming that he's shit tier and needs buffs as if he's not one of the safest characters in an ultrasafe game.

Except they aren't. No one gives a shit. What people care about is you going Hurr duur melee every ult tourney instead of just leaving and taking a bath

Isn't Lucina Marth in her lore?

void plays melee a bit, mango is getting him a pass to the next summit

Whatcha talking about?

but Ultimate has the EVO invite, while Smelee are the Have-nots here :^)

>I watch games I don't like
Yea Forums in a nutshell

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>technically advanced

Meleefags would have an aneurysm trying to figure out VF.

she gets fucked, doesn't she

who do you think you're talking to? these faggots say "honest" like it means anything, they'll never blame themselves

Why are you being retarded on purpose? Joker carries players, it's damn obvious.

That's the issue. IF he lands them. It requires too much effort to land tippers in ultimate and there are 3 easier options to use. Even Roy had his sword had his sweetspot range enlarged and that has done wonder foe him

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take a shower meleegro

You sure you understood what that user said?

He does need buffs though. Either that or Lucina needs more nerfs. Sure Marth is already pretty good but there needs to be a reason to pick him over Lucina.

Why are people still playing on Animal Crossing stages?

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She's a direct line descendant, 1000 years later. She tput on a mask and call herself marth after the hero of legend to hide her identity early on.

Ultimate fans actually watch and support Melee. No one is telling you to play Ultimate, they're just telling you to stop shitposting about it.

>17
>pedophile

make a new thread faggots

she literally puts on a mask and LARPs as marth, who has been dead for thousands of years at tat point, for a while

Distant descendant, and tries to impersonate for a bit. Nearly everyone sees through it immediately.

this is how people justify consolewars

Just tuned in

Anyone repping /mygirl/, or is she still being slept on?

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>Gets 2 stocked and switches off
Actually kill yourself, you're one of the reasons these threads are always garbage

>Oh man dair into upsmash to kill at 80 so cool.

Meanwhile in Melee
>uthrow into rest
>uthrow into uair
>utilt into uair
>jab into usmash

Welcome to Smash, faggot.

VoiD has been trying to get into Melee, but he places like 129th

He carries players as much as other high tier characters will carry you. I

didnt a lot of ult players used to play melee?

HE'S GONNA JUMP AGAIN

Thread's dying so here comes a brainlet question:
When and where does the line get drawn with balance changes? It has to end at some point, and it's inevitably going to end with something being "broken" somewhere. How is anyone supposed to establish and adapt to a meta with constant changes?
I find it hard to enjoy watching Ultimate when high-level is so reliant on semi-frequent patches.

Lore wise Lucina was cosplaying as marth. Marth is Chrom's and Lucina's great great etc. grandfather.

>he can't deal with sword characters

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wadi had a medical issue and couldnt show up, srry man

when melee was the current game, then brawl came out and they jumped ship. there are a few recent melee transplants but none of them seem to be really sticking with it besides armada plup and wizzy.

>when a character I don't like does well they're "carrying"

Where's the next thread you fucking smelly retard smashtards????

>he said, as Samora just smacked the Joker straight out of Void

>but it doesn't fit my narrative!
>I disagree!
>waaahhhh

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Balance patches end when the dev team disbands. As for top-tier people need to learn how to adapt you idiot, balance changes have done little until now

>Void literally just loses using joker against samsora

some games get balance changes without making any one character broken, see rivals of aether or tekken 7. the devs just have to understand competitive play, sakurai does not

the best nu-smash player of all time is a self proclaimed meleefag

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no and never

Something that can't be denied is that Joker gets rewarded for taking damage. That means that when MKLeo plays Joker he is literally getting rewarded for getting hit. Surely this is something that can cause many people to feel ambivalent about fighting Joker.

I understand that. But there's legit people out there who expect melee players to play and keep playing ultimate, otherwise they were 'unable to adapt' elitists.

Another one for the collection

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too bad he is too shit to even place in double digits in melee

none of the patches to Ultimate have suddenly made someone broken/useless tho

What makes you say that considering the patches we've received so far have been good?

Either way Sakurai doesnt balance the game directly, bandai namco does.

>nu-smash

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Esam and Zero are at least competent in Melee though both are probably rusty in the present. The Melee CHAMPION getting top 8 in the Ultimate bracket is pretty great though.

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>the best nu-smash player
Just stop. Here's your final (You)

And there's legit players that throw crabs at people, what's your point?

Who do you root for when both players are playing cancer?

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>sheik
this is an actual throw

He recently picked up Joker retard. Leo has been playing him for almost a month

can one of you pedophiles please make a new thread?

Many "Ultimate players" are just Smash players in general. They probably played Melee when it was current, just like 64, Brawl, Smash 4 and now Ultimate

Melee players are not expected to crossover, just to stop being autists whenever a new entry is released

More like he's a melee poser trying to fit in with the cool kids club. Fucking cringey.

People are silly, I guess.

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>Peach and Sheik
>cancer

i prefer the therm lolicon

i know, thats not what i was responding to though. im just saying patches dont inherently have a large effect on competitive viability

I set you up for a joke with that reply but you never replied so I'm gonna tell you before the thread dies that you did indeed take that post correctly.

he got btfo'd from ultimate so hard he crawled to meleefags for some relevancy

Mid April. He's been out for nesrly two months. I still think he needs more data, Leo dominating with him is not enough

>ESOY
>competent in melee
his samus was hugo-tier at best

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>This character is A tier
>let's buff him so he's S tier
Nerf Lucina so she has an actual weakness and there's a reason to use Marth.

>joker carries players
>b-b-but you have to train for months!
>r-retard!

ayylmao, please stop replying

Here

Why the fuck did Void ditch his best character over one game? Fucking got cold feet and just threw the tourney before even the first match against Samsora.

And he kissed their asses enough for them to take them.

meleegroes are subhumans i guess

you find which cancer you prefer and cheer for that