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aside from speed up movement, what else you guys want see changed?
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aside from speed up movement, what else you guys want see changed?
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>16 slots
Should be 4-5 at most desu
WHO CHARLOTTABROS HERE?
Change super meter radically, holy shit. If CyGames really is going to shill for this to be bigger than SF and at every EVO (let's be real here it's locked in until GBFV2) I'd love to not spend all of my time watching every match end with one of two cinematic supers
Hard to believe arc games are only looking better and better.
Ferry is kinda cute but I'm still kinda just sitting here thinking that none of the characters so far are ones I really like, which is a shame.
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Whoever okay'd this damage is crazy.
the cinamtic don't play if you finish them with skybound
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The events mentioned in the tweet aren't until the end of July/beginning of august so don't expect more news until then
They should add YRC for meter burn
1. Pic related
2. Increase the space at which proximity normals come out maybe, it was definitely annoying being fairly close to the opponent but I'd get far normals nonetheless
Skill Icons should be bigger and at the bottom of the screen to a have a better idea of the current possibilities of our opponent.
Imagine not wanting to be the fifth member of Katalina's harem.
>that cow butt
We just gotta believe
>16 slots
There is 12 slots.
I honestly think that this will be the best training wheels game for people trying to get into 2D fighters, I was playing sets with a friend who mainly plays 3D games and it was really nice to see it start to click for him towards the end of the beta
if vira is truly confirmed, then we are getting 16, the 5 we already know and 4 more surprises
>none of the characters look or play distinctly from one another
i swear all arcsys games aside from dbfz have this problem
VA is confirmed to attend both of the events where more Extra info is coming out. She's in.
In GBFV Katalina has a projectile "Frozen Blade". In GBF Katalina possesses no attack with this name but R Dante and SR Dante can give himself a buff with the same name. What's the lore here?
Tell me more about how anyone from blazblue plays like someone else from blazblue
You should just go play Rev 2. They should keep roman cancels the fuck out, and maybe come up with something they haven't done before.
Why would you speed up movement? Not everything has to be retarded anime rushdown garbage
Let ONE game not have that shit in the last fucking decade, christ
Nuclear Potato
What? DBFZ is by far the worst when it comes to that. Guilty Gear and Blazblue are nothing like that.
I sincerely wish Ferry's 236236H had it's invuln removed. It has no business having any invuln at all.
On a more general note, I don't think chip damage should kill.
The only remotely similar characters are Gran and Katalina
How the fuck does Ferry playing anything like Charlotta
The game is still retarded rushdown garbage, just slowed down so casuals don't get dizzy.
Did you mean "no arcsys game outside of dbfz have this problem"? Because otherwise you might be going full retard there.
>Lancelot looks like and plays exactly like Ferry
nigga what the FUCK
>anime
SF2 has a faster walking speed than most anime games
Yeah, not being able to block out of dash recovery because of how slow it is is a GOOD thing!
Is that a joke? DBFZ is the game that has the biggest problem with that.
All 5 characters have a distinct playstyle, you're actually retarded
de arimASS
People want increased walking speed precisely because it would make walking and playing the poking game, causing moves to whiff and then punishing them, much easier.
As is, you move too slow to effectively do that.
That's why walking exists
It's almost like a game wants you to actually commit to your options instead of LOL JUST KIDDING YRC NOW I'LL PUNISH YOUR ATTEMPT TO PUNISH ME :) shit that you faggots are used to
SF2 didn't have running, learn to fucking 66 nigga
yes it is
evade or get hit
if you wanna haul ass commit to hauling ass
they made kat so cool in versus
>hey look, Yea Forums is talking about fighting games again
when did she get the stand tho? I stopped reading after akasha
You idiots fell for the bait
Percival confirmed next reveal.
Sure bro, I'll just walk at Ferry and 5b-alina. Why should you be able to punish anything with close range characters like Lancelot or Gran? With the way dashing works right now they can keep you out forever with normals and you can hardly ever whiff-punish. It feels terrible.
She doesn't have it in the gacha's story yet.
she didn't, the story was teasing a power up to her, and versus just spoiled what it was
Season 2 will probably be about the Albion Arc with Vira too, so of course she is in Versus and Relink.
we already got her stand teased two years ago
To be fair, pressure is applied more or less the same way for every character, at least in the beta. The mixups are the same, you're guessing between throw and overhead while looking out for stupid sideswitch gimmicks that won't work after week one. And neutral in general is pretty trivial because of slow walkspeeds, dodges and bad buttons.
Why are you talking about punishing when you were just talking about being hit for running forward?
Why are you suggesting running forward as a 'punish' on characters that both have fast advancing moves you're supposed to use for that?
Again, it just seems like you're just complaining a game isn't like a completely different kind of game. If you are far away you do not always get a run in punish, that's just how it is. It's not particularly unusual.
Street Fighter was and will always be anime, ameritard.
>Not everything has to be retarded anime rushdown garbage
Street Fighter is anime as fuck.
>mfw you'll probably have to gacharoll to unlock new characters
>mfw cycucks will defend this
Wow it's almost like close range characters suffer disadvantage at far range what a load of bullshit
>what is forward dodge
Everytime.
>Season 2 will probably be about the Albion Arc
jesus christ, just skip the whole act 1 already
act 2 is infinite times better, I want all these fuckers in
Aesthetically yes but I was obviously meaning the guilty gear/versus games playstyle with airdashes and retardedly oppressive offense/setplay which completely invalidates defensive playstyles
>As is, you move too slow to effectively do that.
Strange, I was actually be able to do that with characters made for this purpose.
Forward dodge is actually insanely strong when used properly
If you played the beta you shouldn't be surprised at all. It was so rare to find people that actually used the dodge mechanics. Makes me wonder about the walk/running complaints I'm seeing.
Throw out a projectile and use that to cover your approach.
Jump at them.
Low profile their attacks with 2S.
Roll through their attacks.
Etc.
>mfw source is my ass
>mfw I'm coming up with another leak right now
Here. Played 60ish matches and lost only once.
give this image a crown
God bless her j.A because scrubs doesn't know how to deal with that.
seething
It's simple, you should be able to block after dashing, Otherwise far range characters are just strictly better.
A gimicky unsafe option, at least in terms of approaching.
Yeah, the disadvantage of being hit from far away and having to move in to attack. Add in the additional disadvantage of not being able to quickly close the gap in a more safe way than "throw out this midscreen, punishable special move" or "try to get a dodge read and get punished for it" then it becomes blatantly unbalanced and more frustrating than it should be. Movement should be the number one smooth feeling aspect of the game.
Most people who play fighting games now haven't played a game where the shoto playstyle is viable in their life
The issue is that it's hard to cause Kat to whiff then move in to punish her. I was doing it with Gran's 214B
Katalina doesn't need to make anyone whiff by walking backwards and then hitting their extended hurtbox. She keeps people out with her excellent reach and fast pokes and chips away at people while they try to approach you.
She's the kind of character that the strategy I outlined should be used against. Unless you're talking about a mirror match, I guess.
>Why should you be able to punish anything with close range characters like Lancelot or Gran?
>Gran
>not able to punish
You are just FUCKING BAD holy shit.
It actually felt so good dabbing on people with just Katalina's fireballs and anti-airs. Dumb zoomers don't know what to do when they don't have a skip neutral button.
Her fucking j.L is insane. Fucking active frames forever.
I saw Hameko abuse the shit out of it.
>this disadvantage is fine but this one isn't because my opinion is law
Walk forward, block when you need to. It isn't hard. If they are going to throw out a normal or special, jump or roll. It isn't difficult and the player trying to get in is supposed to have to task risks to get in.
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Is it over?
>too lazy to make one r8 n h8
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>A gimicky unsafe option, at least in terms of approaching.
>dodge
>gimmick
My.Fucking.Sides.
Main: Danua
Secondary: Forte
Tertiary: Naru
Wait. Is there a reason to think Vira is any more in today than a week ago?
Personally I managed to whiff punish by being well outside their normals' range, dashing in, then stopping just short of their normals' range. They'd hit a button trying to catch my dash and I'd punish that. If they didn't press anything I was still safe.
Nigga do you even KoF? A lot of people were getting through my Katalina fireballs when they were running forward by just forward dodging past the fireball
next granblue live event will have all the current voice actors of versus plus her
Might as well throw in more for a wish list so you have more opportunities to look back and see if you got some right
>retardedly oppressive offense/setplay which completely invalidates defensive playstyles
What the fuck. That's the most ingenious thing you could say about GG. That game has the most defensive options in any fighting game available.
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That's not going to get you in, though. And if you do that while playing a short range character (Lancelot) versus a far-reaching one (Katalina), you'll have to stop well outside of your own range, too. Unless you want to risk a 2S, I suppose.
It does but it has so many movement options and such powerful setplay that it doesn't matter. Guilty Gear effectively boils down to something>sweep>put something on top of them>do your setplay because it's the only thing that leads to consistent reliable damage without massive risk and volatility
Every GG after slash is like that, and Blazblue is like that too. It's just how Arcsys design games. I'm honestly shocked they managed to make a game where defense is inherently strong in this game.
It's the fact that having BOTH disadvantages is the problem and makes things unbalanced. Walking forward simply isn't a viable option against Kat and Ferry. Because you won't able able to get anything started if your opponent has half a brain and doesn't do anything wild. Not to mention the slow walk speed makes the whiff punish game almost non-existent in most neutral scenarios.
I'm talking about normals here mostly. There isn't much to stop a Kat from keeping you jailed with her 5b all day when dashing in isn't a safe option.
But Katalina IS a skip neutral type of character, and I say this as a Katalina "main". Auto footsies 5M with one button DPs means being good at neutral doesn't matter.
>It does but it has so many movement options and such powerful setplay that it doesn't matter.
Oh god. Nah I ain't taking this bait. You do you man.
BlazBlue has all the same defensive options outside of Blitz, and also Overdrive (Raid), on top of having a much more safe burst.
Definitely needs to be placed somewhere else. I'm not staring at the top of the fucking screen most of the time, put it at the bottom.
No, I'm saying that it's fucking NORMAL in that kind of game that some characters are designed about the idea of being strong in that type of playstyle while other shine in different approach with their own unique tools.
You are literally saying that every character should have the same reach/speed/tools which would make a boring game because you are too bad to approach someone with fucking Gran or Lancelot when they have their own tools to do it.
Seriously, you just didn't play against strong players in that Beta, it's fucking obvious.
You must have not been playing against people who know what they are doing, because it's a beta where probably more than half of the base are people who are not good at FGs. But there is high low mixups on Ferry, Charlotta and Lance. All of them have ways to make you guess or read the setup, Lancelot can hide his animations in his fireball if he's good due to being able to run with his projectile and actually just stand inside of it on block stun, Charlotta can change what she's going to do mid air on a special leap and Ferry is about reading how the hell you are going to traverse the minefield that is the space between you when she has meter.
Well you're wrong but sure. You can believe that Ky players are winning with sick projectile zoning and aren't just using that as a means to put their charged fireball on top and them and do an unreactable airdash high/low 50/50. Zoning is defo the better option for him and it's not like he's the character more geared in that direction in the whole fucking game or anything with most others having much worse shit. And of course if they win the 50/50 they get to do it again, but yeah, defense is godlike in that game if anything defensive players since because they can do a gimmicky armour move a couple of times a game or use cancels to make themselves safer which are better used offensively anyway.
Defend this
>There isn't much to stop a Kat from keeping you jailed with her 5b all day when dashing in isn't a safe option.
Spot dodge then DP if you think they'll just throw out another 5B or move in.
Based
Dbfz is fast as fuck
Ferry's armpits.
She doesn't have a projectile
>it's been years since the last time we got a fate fighting game
>every fate-related vidya has solid like hotcakes
>FGO is more popular than granblue could ever hope to be
>arcsys still decided to go for this literally who garbage instead
For what dark purpose
>That's not going to get you in, though.
It will because you buffer in a special to get you in if your normal hits.
>you'll have to stop well outside of your own range, too.
What? You stop right outside their normal range. You hit the extended hurtbox from their normal, not their regular hurtbox. Your own range doesn't matter.
Yup, what I was doing a lot in the beta was dashing into spot dodge or forward dash on reaction and then blocking out of it depending on what came out. Only thing it's tough on is against ferry because of that grab
She is the projectile
Cope fgotard
She IS a projectile
>ANOTHER one of these
Only character we need.
Fate has to actually ask them first
FGO doesn't use the insane amount money it makes to even improve the game itself or release content in a timely manner.
SOIYA BOYS WHEN
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I'm not saying that at all. Don't put words in my mouth.
I used Lancelot, and if I ever needed to approach from far away, I'd usually toss out a projectile and use that to cover my approach and run / 5S my way in through that. If the other player would let me get away with it, I'd jump at them at an angle where I'd hit them with my j.M cross-up. I'd also try to use my 2S at max range to score a knockdown while low-profiling through a projectile.
The strategy I outlined above, skirting back and forth while walking slowly to make someone whiff a normal, doesn't suit Katalina at all because her effective range is so far outside of other characters' that they wouldn't even try to push a button unless you intentionally go closer than you have to and needlessly put yourself in harm's way. Doing it against Ferry or other Katalina players, sure, go for it.
It's not Arcsys that decides. Cygames actually puts their infinite gacha money into real games. FGO is content in solely milking you brainless idiots.
>Ferry mains itt defending not being able to block out of a dash
It only detracts from the game and makes it more frustrating to play. Rushdown characters already have to work to get in even without this, but with the way it works now they have to work even harder while zoning characters get rewarded for very little, and don't have to try at all to keep you out. It's just unbalanced and one of the poor design decisions of the game.
There are ways around it in specific scenarios, but most of the are punishable. The fact that people are even debating having a reliably safe movement option is pretty fucking absurd.
Nice scrub quotes submission here buddy
I enjoy Fate as an IP over Granblue Diet Final Fantasy IP any day of the week, but it's pretty fucking obvious cygoys is actually trying to make their product at a higher quality, whereas with FGO Fate is just fine making billions putting in very little effort.
Game needs something else to do with meter. Not even EX moves using it feels pretty lame, especially with how fast it builds it's basically just "okay next hit I should try to confirm into super/reversal super"
People like are you why SF5 turned into what it is
Your brain on Potato
>You hit the extended hurtbox from their normal
Do we know for sure that all characters have hurtboxes on their weapons? I know Ferry does, but I never noticed anyone else get hit from me striking their weapon or vice versa.
ASW model for box makes me less guilty over lewding her
cygames reached out to arcsys not the other way around retard
DUDE I HAVE TO THINK AND MAKE A DECISION WHEN APPROACHING AND IF I MAKE THE WRONG ONE I GET PUNISHED? WHERE IS MY 'GET IN AT NO RISK' MOVE? WHAT THE FUCK?
Fate is a soulless cash grab created by a writer who just wants to fuck off and write more garbage
Granblue is made by the ex Final Fantasy crew and so the team wanted to make more games in other genres.
Is that a Lancelot main?
I have to thank the brainless idiots that play GBF mobile that at least with this developer, they want to make real games. I hope they continue being good little drones if I keep getting cool fighting games and hopefully with ReLink a good adventure RPG.
NASU IS A STORYFAG
THAT'S WHY ALL HIS GAMES ARE VISUAL NOVELS
THAT'S WHY MOST OF THE MONEY HE MAKES GOES INTO FUNDING ANIME, MANGA AND LIGHT NOVELS
HE DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT MAKING GAMES
HE'S NEVER BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY KIND OF GAME DESIGN
FATE IS ABOUT STORY
IT'S NOT A FUCKING GAME
HALF THE FATE """GAMES""" BARELY HAVE ANY GAMEPLAY
AN RPG WITH LITERALY ROCK-PAPER-SCISSOR AS A BATTLE SYSTEM IS NOT AN RPG
MUSOUS ARE NOT REAL GAMES
DO YOU KNOW WHY FGO IS SO POPULAR?
BECAUSE IT'S MADE FOR JAPS WHO LIKE ANIME, NOT FOR PEOPLE WHO LIKE VIDEO GAMES
GBF IS MADE BY ACTUAL GAMERS WHO'VE MADE SEVERAL GAMES AND ARE INTERESTED IN MAKING MORE GAMES
THAT'S WHY THEY'RE FUNDING SPINOFF GAMES INSTEAD OF A BILLION LIGHT NOVEL LIKE NASU
FUCK OFF TO Yea Forums FATEFAG, FATE IS NOT VIDYA
they are all in
>no one datamined the beta to find the remaining characters
useless
Dashing should be committal
I wouldn't mind if it was a bit faster though, finding the opening to dash in should get you in their face if you don't get hit
>running forward is now a "move"
holy shit ferry mains are actually fucking retarded.
What you described if completely fine when attacking or making an error in neutral, not when you're trying to move forward slightly faster on the ground you actual brainlet.
The only real mixups I've seen were Ferry instant overheads. The problem is I really don't think Lancelot's rekka mixups and Charlotta's demon flips are gonna be hitting people who actually played the game for more than just a weekend. I can actually see pressure in this game becoming like early SFV where every character had killer pressure using just throws and throw baits. Unless the new characters are wildly different to the ones we got, these character quirks are going to mean less and less as time goes on.
Dashing is a move, yes.
Good talk, thank you for understanding.
I'd personally prefer if dashing was a step, with a set amount of distance and recovery. I think that'd suit this type of game pretty well.
lmao at this brain addled gacha addict
cygames actually spends their gacha money on fun, soulful endeavors, no one gives a fuck about granblue's phone game it exists to whip whales on the weapon pool treadmill
>rekka mix-up
What rekka mix-up? They're all mids.
>my dumb short range ungaboar of a character gets outranged by this other long range character
you ever played fgs before?
That's what forward dodge is, isn't it?
It's an option. This is what you don't understand. You can walk, allowing you to block. You can jump. You can run. You can do an attack. You probably have more character specific options too.
What you want is for all of these to be invalidated and just run forward in every situation and safely block all attempts to stop you, and then when you get in without ever jumping or doing anything dangerous to make you deserve it, you now get to rush that player down and put them at a massive disadvantage.
If you are playing against a zoner and you are not in, you are in a bad position and now have to take a risk. That's how it's supposed to work. What is the point in playing a zoner if the other player can just safely go in at no real risk and then fuck you up with their much superior close range game to yours, and when they were at your optimal range, they never had to take any risks and it was really no big deal? Zoners would be shit. And that's why zoners ARE shit in most fighting games now because of people like you who want to play rushdown characters but don't ACTUALLY want to learn how to play rushdown characters and just want a skip neutral button and to always be at advantage.
>Money granblue makes
Goes almost completely to cygames, they pump it back into their various projects be it anime, mobages, or vidya.
>Money FGO makes
Split between TM who pockets it all, Sony who funds LITERALLY anything but FGO, and a small portion goes to DW.
Literally blame Nasu and Sony.
If Nasu likes stories so much then why are his so bad?
I hated this monkeyfaced retard until I found out he was using that awful korean mmo to make real games. Now he's based and I hope he lives a long and fulfilling life. Keep sucking the money out of pathetic gambling addicts for my vidya benefit, you beautiful man.
I suppose, but that feels a bit too slow.
I guess it would make a step kinda redundant, though. No reason to have both "fast step" and also "slow but invuln step".
I disagree, not every way of approaching should be committal when a zoner can keep you out without committing at all. Getting punished for throwing out a mis-timed special? Sure. Whiffing an attack? Fine. Doing a poorly thought out dodge forward? Of course. Jumping in raw and getting anti-aired? Classic. Simply dashing a short distance is where I draw the line and things just get obnoxious. Having that extra level of meticulousness in your play when zoners barely have to put in the effort to run their gameplan is ass balance-wise.
Yuisis' VA is going to attend those events too
I'm seeing far more interest in Versus from the FGC than from the GBF fandom
I'm not even talking about Lance's rekka which isn't really a mixup but just something you wait to see if he staggers and/or goes for the full hits.
But there's Lancelot approaching with his fireball in front of him, you block the fireball that still lingers and creates a bunch of animation on block stun on top of it that Lancelot just stands in. You can barely see his hitboxes and he can go high, low, mid with his options. Lance can also just let the fireball hit, do nothing, back up, dash in but use his fake where he quickly dashes back, makes you whiff a normal and he can punish with EX or super. Ferry's is about whether she will do something or not
It's Cygames who went to ArcSys. Not the other way around. Cygames has stated in a lot of interviews of how much they like fighting games. That's why it was actually not that big of a surprise that Granblue got a fighting game when it was announced.
Where does she poop from?
His strength is character driven stories, it's why that Camelot chapter in fgo is actually quite good by mobage standards, gbf definitely doesn't have anything comparable. Boots and blades is the only story event I can think of with a really endearing character driven story. He shits the bed hardcore with plot driven shit, which is why the entire Extraverse is a fucking disaster.
she's in every event user, that VA has a lot of free time
just like siero's one
How could you hate him if you weren't one of the retards exploited by him?
They don't understand that doing your zoner job is not something easy, that you have to think and react in the good way every fucking time and that it should also be rewarded.
I bet that when they are at close range, they can't do shit against a good zoner even if he has less tools to work with and that's why they are angry.
>Boots and Blades
>Not Ranger Sign: Bravo
>dash in but use his fake where he quickly dashes back, makes you whiff a normal and he can punish with EX or super
I actually wonder if 66H is fast enough to punish moves like that. I'm not sure if that's practical.
>a zoner can keep you out without committing at all
They are doing things too, and they are at their optimal range. You jump over a zoner's fireball and they die. You whiff punish their poke and you get in. You can use your fireball to clash with theirs to create room. You can dash forward if they are poking with normals. None of these are no risk to the zoner.
Should the zoner have a no risk way out of rushdown blockstrings too without having to take a risk in a mixup? No, obviously not.
He was the Shadowverse producer as well. Which is a much better game.
He's just like me and fighting games.
dragons don't poop
I don't think I ever used 66 for anything.
Half of my interest is the ArcSys models. I'm hoping the game does well just so all that work doesn't go to waste on something people drop in a month.
I've seen a lot people in both camps that were already casually in GBF but also FG players.
I hope we get both Yuisis and Vira.
>which is why the entire Extraverse is a fucking disaster
Boy, is it. EXTRA is probably the single worst game I've ever finished. What an absolute travesty that was.
Cool intro segment, though.
GBF players are largely mindless gacha addicts like all the other gacha game players. They only want gambling and grind, learning a fighting game is too much for them.
It isn't skipping neutral though. If you dash forward and block an attack, you're still at disadvantage mid-screen, being in their attack zone and them not being in yours. And it isn't like zoning characters are slower or something, they can just as easily get away from you unless you're already on top of them. As for having a drastically weaker close game, in another series I'd agree, but ferry and katalina are both perfectly fine in close range thanks to their specials and auto-combos. Moving in at all against a zoner is a risk, even with a relatively safe dash.
KMR literally killed shadowverse with the fucking mini expansions.
Like completely ignore the meta and the state of the game, the mini expansions pushed out so many people from playing and made the game objectively worse.
it's all the same shit when you skip
Well we know Siero is going to be the final boss anyway
Probably because it's potentially a huge source of money for tournaments, bigger than even Capcom. There's also the fact that a lot of the anime FGC already plays Granblue anyway.
Do you think it could have anything to do with who owns a PS4 and who doesn't?
WHERE'S DJEETA
What else would you punish with? 5S-4S puts you quite far away.
It's also a godsend for corner combos. It's your only way to get any kind of extension, to my knowledge. The normal version is good for sideswapping and gives better oki.
Can't say, not a lot of stuff I tested. Only after the beta ended did I start thinking about things I wanted to try. But I probably couldn't have anyway since I wasn't playing with mutuals
speak for yourself, I played BB to hell and back
I fucking wish lancelot was anything close to hibiki
You two are bad at finding cute dragon-girl buttholes. It's almost peeking out.
Jew skin Djeeta with Blue transformation in her low health super soon.
Walder is a goofy retard, but I'll admit if I take my own biases out of it that character arc was good. Honestly I think a great move for GBF would be to follow the FGO pattern for its main story. Make the ensemble cast switch up every new island so you aren't saddled with the same fucking bland assholes after their character arc finishes. Why is Io even around anymore, or Eugen? Allow other characters to get some time to shine.
Fully agree. Cain alone made the entire act 2 leagues better than act 1. Better characters, better pacing, better knights better everything. Hate how rushed the reunion was for act 3. It's clear they were lazy and intended people to know and do Grand Cain's fate episode prior to it. I cared more about returning to Nahlegrande than Phantagrande at that point.
>4 male characters
>3 females
the game literally needs more waifus to reel the GBF fandom in
this game is gorgeous just imagine the fanservice levels they could shit out with the draphs and erunes
I just wish they'd give us training mode.
The CF demo they released was so godlike, why not do that again?
>he can go high, low, mid with his options
There's no real high-low mixup with just the universal overhead since it's slow enough to just react to, and mid-low mixups aren't even a thing. In the limited time I had with the beta, the real mixup there is just between throw or overhead, which literally every character can do effectively. I'm not saying Lancelot doesn't have any real offensive options at all, I'm just saying the ones he has are not unique to him, which was my initial point anyways.
You won't hear me argue there, it's why he's a monkeyfaced faggot. But SV still is more interesting as a game, or perhaps I should have said was.
Ladiva is female
Can't be sure because I didn't play Lancelot that much, but his Wirbelwind Feint was really great to bait the opponent, I punished A LOT of things with it.
Is Zeta, Metera, Yuisis and Vira enough to win them over?
Because this is not a demo, it's a beta to test the servers.
They'll drop in their females for them. And their gold brick/sunlight stone tie in items for buying the game for those whales too.
I'm starting to lose hope
There's going to be more characters than average for a base Arcsys game roster so you'll get more waifus for sure. Also Ladiva is a female.
>Finally get a modern fighting game that actually looks like it rewards zoner gameplay as a viable strategy
>People immediately want to ruin it because it interferes with their unga bunga rushdown
For fucks sake you guys. Why is everyone terrified of zoning?
and when cag gets in there will be a male to counterbalance ladiva
In neutral, sure the overhead is reactable but in the example I am talking about it's different because it's hard to tell. Lance's fireball actually helps him so much if you position yourself right
they can't go all-out with fanservice because the whole point of making a fighting game is cashing out on e-sports cash. gotta keep it disneyxd friendly
I'm pretty sure Ferry would still be crazy good even if you could block out of a dash. Hell Katalina would just straight up get better.
I'm aware, but I wish they'd let us have training mode for the characters during the beta. Maybe during server maintenance.
>keeping the fanservice limited when Metera is one of the logo characters
Bruh think back CF was the 4th entry in a series that already had an arcade release long out before the console version. Same goes for those nice demos they gave out for Xrd Revelator. GF doesn't even have a release date yet.
>FGO is more popular than granblue could ever hope to be
There's a reason why GBF's fuck ups like the monkey gate make national news while FGO's don't despite having the same kind of shit happening multiple times (like the Scat yakuza loan). FGO is notable for having a relatively small playerbase (but still huge compared to the average mobage) for the amount of cash it brings. GBF, Monster Strike or Jikkyou Pawafuru are played by way more people than FGO.
But you can blame Type moon and Aniplex for doing nothing with that cash except go to Sega to make a fucking gacha arcade game.
>implying the logo isn't just a ruse to fool nerds
Ferry's side boob and back is already more than I expected and Metera will probably push it further. Yuel might be too lewd though.
>game comes out in 2019
at the rate they're going there's not more than 5 characters left
I think fighting games gave up on trying to keep things friendly after the ESPN debacle. SFV straight up doesn't give a fuck anymore and has been releasing shit that looks straight out of a porn site skin mod archive for Chun.
They literally said that it's going to be a bigger roster than you think.
SF had swimsuit skins
AND SO WILL THIS GAME
naa the fate fanbase is huge, when I went to JP a couple of years ago there was fate branded crap everywhere. granblue had almost nothing
she's in
that means nothing
I've just always found playing against a well made zoning character to be really fucking tedious. I don't play games to roleplay Sisyphus rolling my fucking boulder up a hill only to do it over again when one read goes wrong and I'm back to square one. I won't be too upset if she never gets nerfed, but I'll just continue my eternal trend of sighing and generally not having a good time whenever I'm up against a zoning player.
how is Yuel more lewd than Metera
Metera is in lingerie with a heart shaped ass cutout
Yuel is just in what amounts to a bikini with fur accents
>Swimsuit Ladiva
EX fireball just gives him the plus frames to apply the same pressure every character get to apply on knockdown. I just would like to see viable offense be more nuanced than that.
Based sisbro.
Play Ladiva for a better world!
This game won't because of the way the models work.
Yeah, I suppose that makes sense.
I just wanna lab shit, man.
Also please give me damage numbers in matches, god damnit, at least let me figure out if it's worth going for 66A ender for oki over her 214AAA ender for damage.
Actually, the lack of damage numbers probably means that damage isn't universal. Might work off a defense modifier like in Guilty.
they would just user her newer outfit if it was a problem, which it isn't
you realize that a 'skin' basically means they have to make an entirely new character with how they do their models
Fuck off with your pedobait characters. but mainly I fucking hate playing against small hitboxes
>Sega to make a fucking gacha arcade game.
It's a shame they won't do anything more with that, because those characters models are quite good too. If Nasu would stop pimping out Fate we could at least get another Meltan when he finishes the Tsukihime remake in 47 years, Actress Again was a fantastic game.
BELIEVE IN CYGAMES MONEY
id buy costume dlc
I refuse to do her fate episode. I hate her shitty face.
does arcsys even know what costumes are?
the potential for ferry SFM porn is the only reason i'm even interested in this game
What if I think it will have 60 characters?
Just start it and skip it and cash in those sweet 50 things
Metera's outfit is lewd but it isn't as obvious that it would tick one of Sony's censorship checkboxes. They've gone after bikinis before though.
granblue is with branded crap everywhere right now
things changes man, right now on the no news months of FGO you barely see brand stuff around
they have a vague idea of what it is
I prefer this outfit than her normal one actually.
This one is cool too.
They should have made a FGO game instead of this shit.
Blazblue calamity trigger was also pretty ass
Someone was able to tell if there was a damage difference between L/M/H Auto Combos?
Gacha babbies should buy this game and ReLink so Sony gets the memo that branching out of mobage is financially lucrative. It's the only way those greedy suits will get the balls to make a move.
Gran is literally one of the best characters in the game at punishing, j.S and 2S lead into a full combo and oki respectively. You can whiff punish from half screen with his tatsu. Power slash is also one of the best punish moves in the game due to its retarded scaling
Git gud
Gbf is not that big.
Playing against a zoner as a rushdown character is exhilarating as fuck. It's like cracking a tough coconut to get to the juicy meat inside. Hitting the giant enemy crab's weakpoint for massive damage. It tests your neutral of course but it also tests your pressure/combo ability too. I imagine someone who has one but not the other will find these matches very frustrating.
Is the anime worth watching?
I need the Nu function
No
And I find reducing fighting games to literal guessing fucking tedious too
The doujins are worth better
It's very generic and summarizes the least interesting portion of the story, but I've seen some people like it
not even arcsys themselves could make porn animations with these types of models, drawing by hand would actually be much easier
It's made by A-1, which means it is not good. Although even with a competent studio, it still isn't very good. It even has an irrelevant swimsuit filler episode, which is a big fucking warning sign that the anime you are watching isn't confident enough that its plot or characters can stand on its own.
Just cash in the poverty crystals bro
We still have yet to see Soriz in one of the backgrounds, Eugen is on the grandcypher while Jin is next to the fisher in the beach stage.
It's fairly mediocre. It looks nice I guess and has a few cool set pieces like the Leviathan fight, but it covers the very early parts on the first arc which is pretty much monster of the week island hopping boring bullshit. Season 2 might be better though since it should start off with Vira which is where arc 1 starts to slowly pick up.
>2S
I played against a mother fucking strong Gran with a mastery in 2S.
It was like playing a different game.
First two episodes show why Gran and blue hair girl are a duo, explain somewhat the rules and shows off animation. Give it a shot I guess
how big is arcsys now? am I gonna get cucked out of P5A because of gachashit?
I'm fairly certain there isn't, scaling aside.
The starter will obviously deal different damage, but the follow-ups are literally the same regardless of what starter you got.
hopefully
>cucked out of P5A because of gachashit
BBTAG still has a lot DLC left
Prove that its real
Joker is a GBF character. Just make him DLC lol.
The game wasn't going to be made anyway
They are probably sitting on some decent money to make whatever they want for GG or BB after these licensed titles they've been doing.
I was sold until I noticed she has no anus and that anatomical fuck up makes it kind of creepy.
>ungafags getting put in their place and forced to realise their fundamentals are trash
>BBTAG
I haven't played it (no PS4) yet but the game being "slow" makes it a lot more interesting to me. Hope the Steam release is popular enough.
>i swear all arcsys games aside from dbfz have this problem
People still think that they only have Team RED and BLUE.
I'm fairly certain that they are way bigger than during the Xrd era, but they are great at management too.
Right now, it should be something like:
Team RED, working on the next Guilty
Team BLUE, working on GBF
Unamed Team, working on P5A
Small crew 1, working on the DLC of DBFz
Small crew 2, working on the DLC of BBTAG
Yeah, I think she's in.
What does the grappler function look like in Granblue? I know nothing about the mobile game, I just want a cool wrestler man with 720s.
Are we getting any jewtenshoes?
how about a wrestler lady?
Would Sara and her sand castle work as a grappler?
man remember salty comments from the "xenoverse community" when dbfz released? i was hoping it would be the same for granblue
no
It's an ArcSys joint, there has to be a Carl Clover type character. If Orchis isn't in that could work for Sara.
People are really sleeping on Gran cause he’s the “basic” and honest character. His j.S is a massive flying hit box that is godlike at crossing up, and 2Shives him the lowest height in the game while also having surprising reach and knockdown on hit. A Gran that masters those two moves specifically is actually really fucking scary, especially when they start spacing them well. I played against a Gran that destroyed my soul using ambiguous j.S crossups or empty jumps into 2S
it's the fatefucks who are salty. their arcade game ended up being a cheap 2 button masher with card gacha
Its either obvious bait or by someone overwhelmingly retarded. Given that this is Yea Forums I really can't tell. I have my issues with anime games but that could not any less true if user tried.
What gives you the idea that a new Persona fighting game is even confirmed?
tfw sad as fuck Lowain and Ladiva weren't in the beta
So at least, we are two here who know how scary he really is.
I laugh at people who want to give him more tools to approach, they are fucking crazy.
You start to really understand the real flow of the game when you play against a great Gran, people are clearly not ready to see the real face of this game, every fucking choice is important or you get assblast into oblivion.
>a gbf thread at 30+ replies
Did mods finally take their autism pills and come to realize that gbf is a video game?
Rumors, which were around the same time that when we got a rumor about a GBF fighting game made by arcsys.
It's true, I fucking wish we got a fightan from Arcsys, i'm salty as fuck.
still gonna get this though because it looks fun.
>the FGC of all people are shocked and taken aback by GBFZ horniness beating their own
Kinda nutty desu, it's like a subvilain realizing he was never the big bad
There's also a frame focused on her ass cheek
Gbfv isn't lewd at all though
Blame TM/DW for not wanting to spend their piles of money on improving FGO itself, let alone making more games.
Too many shenanigans, if people saw either of Lowain's supers without knowing what the hell this game is they would have an aneurysm
>Mix of Alex and Zangief
She looks fun as fuck. I didn't think I'd even give a shit about this game but Ladiva is making it very tempting.
Djeeta (Azul) moveset
U - Ninjustu
-> L, L - Fire Evade
-> L, M - Encount
-> L, H - Thunderswift
-> L, U - Tight Spot
-> M, L - Cast-off
-> M, M - Water Evade
-> M, H - Curse Bind
-> M, U - Poison Evade
-> H, L - Plover
-> H, M - Aisha
-> H, H - Wind Evade
-> H, U - Raccoon Retreat
-> U, L - Eye of the Tiger
-> U, M - Life or Death
-> U, H - Firefly's Light
-> U, U - Earth Entomb
236 - Aether Blast
214 - Rupie Flip
623 - Resonating Blade (When Glory Arts is active)
236236H - Glory Arts
214214H - Two to Tango
236236U - Celestial Torrent
13
YEARS
OLD
Which Granblue has the best porn? I plan on popping some Adderall and jacking off for the next 12 hours in a bit.
Yet.
>need to spend money to play the game
>need to spend even more money to get new characters
>this is an arcade game
Thank god Arcades are dead in the West because if someone tried to pull that shit here a new law would be passed.
It is on Twitter and in the discord. Also the notebook threads
thumbnail looks like a gigantic dong
It's ok, it's just a dead body.
They're almost certainly going to make P5A at some point, but I'd imagine it won't come out until 2021 or so. They'll probably have a concert or something in 2020 and announce it there. I think Mori made some passing comment implying it would be made in a BBTAG interview anyway, and while I imagine a new Guilty Gear will come out in 2020, they don't have anything lined up for after that and P5A seems like the most sensible thing to assume they would release after that, so it probably will be that barring something unexpected happening.
Rather I mean it is lewd-ED
wasted post
Literally where
Is gbfv confirmed for evo?
They will bring a lot of soul to the roster.
Was kind of disappointed at first because they were not those fanfavorites you would expect, but it makes so much sense.
I'm glad they are in because it's not the kind of chaacters we will get as DLCs, so it's a smart choice.
is it cause of the discord thing? honestly, that was probably the anime fgc instead of the granblue players
BROTHERS
Would be neat. If they do Djeeta at all I'm expecting them to go with the meme of her being the uber whale and have her either be Jew skin or Kengo.
This one.
Placenta handjob
>Team blue is working on GBF
I doubt it's straight up one team working on GBFV. If anything it was primarily Team Red with a few Red guys plus Daisuke just working on the next GG in the background. Since Versus was said to be in development for 3 years so roughly after Revelator was released which makes Rev2's whole life makes a lot more sense. And secondly, the battle designer for Versus is Pachi. The battle designer for GG so unless he has a shit load of Team Blue guys working for him on this project for whatever reason then it's probably more of a Red project.
Again though it's more than likely a joint project between the two. It's impossible to tell who's getting thrown in ASW to work on what and how they structure their shit from an outside perspective without doing a shit load of cross referencing that nobody wants to do. Since they never flat out say, oh this is team blue, or team red. Hell people thought it was team red on DBFZ, but in reality it was the Persona guys.
Jews, blacks and Asians are a protected minority on Yea Forums.
It's confirmed not for EVO.
I'm glad that Lowain wasn't in the beta since I would have liked how the game will normally play with the most basic characters without running into and learning against Yggdrasil memes already.
>Fatefags have to go to nip arcade to play that
>Meanwhile Grubbers are getting a similar game with Relink except it will be on PC and consoles.
I mean I can hope so but to me its false until proven real.
Not following
>melting cows by thomas
>236236H - Glory Arts
Should be Glory Hole instead, lmao
but GBFfags are the ones so obsessed they have to bring up Fate all the time
As someone who has zero knowledge outside of doujins of Charlotta, should I pick this up? I'm relatively decent at fighting games and want to bully people as Charlotta.
It was GBFfags that always show up to complain about Fate not getting an Arcsys game all this time?
Just like how everyone is obsessed with Americans. Everyone will always talk about what's #1 and FGO will always be the #1 mobage.
>want to bully people as Charlotta.
If you're interested in playing Blanka with Akuma's Demon Flip then yes you should pick this up
Gran is as honest as Ky
thank you kind sir
>FGO will always be the #1 mobage
Now this is delusional.
>gematsu.com
There is this too.
P5R=Persona 5 Royal
P5S= Persona 5 Scramble
P5AG= ???
P5U= ???
P5D= ???
Please, someone give me a good Ferry doujin.
You're right, FGO2 will be #1 next
Nobody's as honest as Ky, and you'd do well to not slander the king by comparing him to those beneath him again. There can never, and will never, be anyone as honest as he.
fateshit has never been first in anything.
I fucking love the little stickers art for this game. It's all so adorable. They need to make a fuckton more.
The real question is: What is the best doujin or artist for each character?
I have a tentative list:
- Cagliostro: Volpone
- Andira: Andiralala
- Yuel: Any of the doujin done by Herio
- Beatrix: Same as Yuel
- Lamretta: Same as Yuel
- Monica: Any doujin done by kizuka kazuki
- Camieux: Camieux Kawaritai Desu!
- Vampy: Vampire Sandwich
- Ferry: Ferry-chan to Chucchu Suru Hon
They're all taken from the browser game, which has a lot more stickers.
twitter.com
I thought you guys said it doesn't play like ST?
>Test is already over
>only got to play 3 matches in total
>got bodied in all of them
>didn't even get to learn basic combos
T-there will be another test right?
A properly made FGO arena fighter would probably give Gundam a run for it's money
But alas
Oh I see, I'm not sure I'm ready to plunge into actual Granblue yet. That does give me hope for Versus though.
There will be another beta that isn't just a stress test, yes. As for when or if you will get in, who knows.
arturo is secretly based
Mitsugi's 150 page Yuel book is a masterpiece.
EVERY SINGLE FUCKING THREAD.
I'm absolutely certain you're a falseflagger or something, this is the most obnoxious part of these threads. It's literally every single time. Are you going to stop?
Fucking based, thank you user.
>implying it's an actual Fatefag
It's one hundred percent a shitposter. There was an early thread where they let slip they didn't even know Fate had a fighting game besides Arcade already.
Oh it's obviously a falseflagger trying to stir up shit for no reason, the moment it happens in more than a couple of threads it's readily apparent. People will never ignore though so we're fucked.
You know I don't even care for much of Sara as a character since I don't have her nor have I done her side stories yet. However I do want her in terms of an idea of a Puppet/grappler hybrid. Essentially a more fleshed out and expanded upon version of Relius's command grab with Ignis if that was the main gimmick of the character. I know people will say well she'll be the straight up puppet character if Orchid isn't in, which is true, but I have no doubt in my mind that Orchid will be in the game as DLC and I'm sure she's already planned as such. Orchid can play as your more traditional puppet character if anything.
But back to Sara, it would be a interesting spin on the grappler dynamic is instead of trying to get close as possible you're trying to push away and zone your opponent to land your grabs. And all her close up moves will be very defensive based too. You can balance it out too with Sara herself since she's just literally a 9 year old human with a sand guardian so she would be extremely shit without Graphos their to do her work. So if you get too cocky with Graphos and lose him for a short amount of time, the opponent can really start doing some major shit on Sara until he's back.
But that's just rough spit balling and I'm sure there is a better way to balance it, but it's a unique idea that I can see working. I just think it would be a waste to too see a character like this just end up playing like a Carl or whoever else you've seen before. Especially when you can have someone else like Orchid who'll be in this game anyway sooner or later fill that position a lot better. So having a character that does show capabilities of being a lot more unique and not capitalizing it because it's the more "unsafe" way of doing things since it hasn't really been done before would be a disappointment.
>secretly
I want Carmelina on the game. I know she has no chance but her moveset would be very fun...
twitter.com
FKHR already said next time the game will be playable will be at Granbluefest. I wouldn't expect another beta anytime soon.
How long do you think it'll go on for? No one even cares to call it out for what it is.
Also if you love that kind of art, you should read the fun little stories with them.
Damn, nice taste user.
Post sticks you want in
Only the best
>aside from speed up movement,
fuck off casual scum
Only the strongest of them all.
There probably won't be daily threads up to launch like DMC5 so his autism will be kneecapped the moment these threads stop anyway.
>speeding up movement in order to make things more punishable is being casual
fuck off
faster movement anyway. for a game without dash braking walking is too damn slow, and they seem to want you to walk back and forth and whiff punish which becomes actually a thing with good walk speed. don't always gotta dash all the time.
50% bar guard cancels, some of the current chip setups are mega fucked and there's no FD or whatever to negate chip. plus this means there's a choice between meter for defense and meter for supers
skippable fucking cutscenes aaaaaaaaaahhhgh
or just make them shorter. this shit is the worst part of modern fighting games. fuck street fighter 4 so hard for kicking this trash into place
beatrix, even though I know she'll make it as $8 arcshits DLC
Sara for Relius, Orchid for Carl, Danua for Jack-O
I'll be sure to post it again in the next thread if I can guarantee it'll make you upset.
>starts right back up again when the threads do
Reminder to join us at /gbfg/ in /vg/ if you want to discuss versus and GBF in general. /gbfg/ is one of the friendliest generals you'll ever find and always helps new players.
And I'll be there to tell you to fuck off, every time. Not like you weren't planning to post it again anyways.
lol
fuck off "sis"
Oh leave that user alone, they were just trying to not be a faggot.
Look up Kikuushi no Seikatsu
No one here has even started talking about bathwater
I think they need to work on the UI. I really don't like those massive tabs and text that appear on the side of the screen for counters and such. No reason they should be that large since it adds nothing.
>Mentally shat on Gran when the game was revealed/when trailers and gameplay came out because I thought he’d be a boring shoot function
>Didn’t think I’d play him at all
>Beta releases and I end up playing 90% of matches with Gran and have a shit ton of fun with him
I don’t know how this happened, this is not what I expected at all. There’s something so alluring about his honesty and simplicity, like genuinely he feels great to use because he’s so sterile with no gimmicky bullshit. It’s refreshing, in a way. And winning with him feels real good.
Granblue has terrible UI so it's a reference
>let's be real here it's locked in until GBFV2
I think you guys are vastly overestimating how much the FGC is going to embrace this game and how effective CyGames' shilling will even be. At best it'll be a mainstay at Evo JAPAN for a some years, but after a year or so Western FGC will drop this thing like rock and it wont have the entrants to justify it being a main stage game at most events.
Is there a witch girl in this game?
They have a card game that's dying and were still willing to do this.
Me before central fiction
>eh, don't really care about susano'o, the locked specials are...something, but whatever
then after it comes out and I get the game
>WHEN
>YOU
>DIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE
Literally nobody in /gbfg/ was talking about GBFV after the first phase of the beta and they didn't even mention the beta being over.
yeah
Honestly Susie has so much charisma it's impossible to not like him, even ignoring how great MUST DIE is.
I love that character so much.
Okay got it. Good to know now.
He's just a fucking blast, as a character in general. A nice little cherry on top is that to this day, I still find it difficult to dash cancel for some fucking reason, but since Susan can't do that, I don't have to worry about it. Unlike my poor CP main, bullet. I just can't get back in to her.
>muh money
NRS shovels a ton of money into the FGC and their scenes still become ghost towns after a year. The only reason it "worked" for SFV is because SF is the most beloved title in the genre. Granblue wont get that kind of love and loyalty.
I will now buy this game.
>check what is ResetEra saying about GBVS
>thread about roster speculation
>they talk about which PoC from GBF should be in
Of course.
*blocks your path*
I like Gran because of his big ass BOOT kick he throws out on his tatsu and his 2A
Also he has jumping knee which is pretty cool
>Unlike my poor CP main, bullet. I just can't get back in to her.
Ugh, I think maybe this is why I'm so weird about Blazblue now. I haven't liked Bullet and Blazblue really since the first version of CP.
Who are the Poc?
Like most Erunes? Yodarha?
you guys seriously spend too much time and effort looking for things to bitch about
P5D is Persona 5 Dancing
>check what is ResetEra
linger on there a bit longer why don't you
Spinnah and JJ
They're right Eustace, Yuel and Societte should be in the game
Sorry if I just love to laugh.
Fucking ESLs
Yuel and Socie are too white to be PoC.
Gran bros, how do I git gud with him? Do I infinitely throw fireballs at my opponent until I chip them to death?
Call me when Metera gets announced and they go nuclear
Cygames is really good at making cute stickers.
>Granblue wont get that kind of love and loyalty.
We'll see about that.
Learn neutral
>implying micrib cares
Cygames has been the top sponsor for Evo for multiple years now, probably since the development of the game. They're absolutely going for the long haul.
yeah, it is.
fucking this
git gud
The "FGC" only plays Capcom fighters, they will never embrace anything else. People who like fighting games will play just about anything, though, but this game will definitely not catch on, not even in Japan. This game is fueled purely by CyGames, no one ever fucking asked for it, not even GB players.
It's ArcSys so most likely every character will have a dark-skinned color
>Nintendo removed this sticker and a bunch of others because no negativity allowed in a Nintendo game.
I felt a violent rage when I saw someone on Twitter calling Eustace a "POC".
lol
Metera and Zeta are both in the logo and have the outfits of actual street walkers. Plus Vaseraga is pretty obvious bara bait but Resetera only cares about female fanservice.
Get fucking crazy. Jump-ins and cross-ups with air O and air X are both great tools, and crouching X has a solid amount of range. Space with your boot, and use your dragon punch to catch shit like Ferry poking. Just don't go full retard.
>speed is casual
You disgust me.
I asked for it.
Lowain is literally a niggercat.
Explain why moves being more whiff punishable is casualizing the game. I'll wait.
What's his neutral game then. I feel like I'm getting punished for doing anything other than fireball. My only experience with fighting games comes from playing BB back in the CS days.
they removed my favorite sticker because of this shit. the worst part is i mostly only used it when i was mad at myself for fucking up.
Lowain is based on a Japanese stereotype, he's Japanese but tan.
The ONLY black people in Granblue are JJ and Spinnah. MAYBE Kuvira.
this looks bad
because it means getting in is easier. you don't need as much patience as a game where you have to work your way in, and patience is the number one thing casuals hate.
wow, the "no RoB in GBVS" guy is actually from ResetEra.
There are multiple people saying that. I know this because I had a conversation with them.
>but this game will definitely not catch on, not even in Japan
Let's not say things we can't take back, user.
>no one ever fucking asked for it, not even GB players.
And yet, the game has been accepted with open arms by fans ever since it's reveal.
>Metera
I don't follow granblue so I didn't know this character existed until now
Hot damn. The shoes are retarded as fuck but I love wind magic bow girls.
Without knowing anything about how she plays, she's definitely in the running for main now.
so are you desu
Learn your normals. 5M is a good anti air and you can cancel it on hit with guard and 66(forward dash). Remember your 2U (down unique attack) is a low sweep, your M version fireball has 2 parts and is useful for jump ins and matching fireballs while getting an advantage. 2M fireball on clash with another fireball can have the first hit absorb and still send your fireball out. Stagger 2L for footsies on block. Optimize your hits when you confirm hits in the corner, start with 214 EX for wall bounce, I think its 6L into EX fireball, 5M and super.
Also Gran's DP is the best one
Send out a fireball to cover your approach. If you notice your opponent jumps over fireballs a lot, then bait them with one and dp or hit them in the air. If they block it, approach and use jumping X to try to cross up or get a combo started, or just poke using his normals. Once you’re in, you have to learn when it’s your turn and then you mix up from there.
Lowain and his friends act like actual niggers though
She's the town bicycle
JAMIL!
>playing Gran
>every time I try to jump in with j.S get beat out in the air by a faster jump normal
>try to go for an empty jump set-up after knockdown
>get hit by an air unblockable reversal nearly every time
>try to bait it out
>they just mash light on wake up or get away from me
Too honest for me. Had some fun with 2S though, though the short range on it has gotten me fucked every know and then.
>She's the town bicycle
That's actually Sandalphon though
>Lowain and his friends act like actual niggers though
Only in the translation.
I'll warn you now, her personality is straight out of a Mizuryu Kei hentai
a nyagger even
Ferry’s dp is the best in the game cause it’s disjointed and invincible
2S range is actually pretty dirty you just need to learn how to space and git gud
you've been playing too much mahjong
I prefer her holiday version or her Fire version, but either way i'm looking forward to seeing how she plays. It's kind of hard to picture a bow character in a game like GBV.
I feel like Gran's DP is more safe even on fuck up depending on the range, like you can get a block in when others wouldn't
forgot pic
Mina(Samsho)+Yukari(P4AU)
UNTZ
It’s LITERALLY impossible to walk in heels like those
Thanks Granbros. Makes me wish the beta had a training room to get familiar with the character before venturing out into the sea of Ferries.
She floats 24/7
I'm not seeing how anyone has an issue with it. Just bait it out of Ferry player and cave their shit in afterwards.
good thing she seems to be able fly judging by her art and battle sprites.
She'd probably be very much like Yukari from Persona 4 ultimax. Question is how her flying is going to take effect. Either she'll have something like a double jump or straight up just turn into Magneto from fucking MVC.
all dp's are disjointed and invincible they wouldn't be dp's if they weren't.
It’s not an issue, I’m just saying it’s objectively the best one. Of course you can bait it and fuck them up, that goes for every dp in every fighting game ever
I'd like to think it'd be like Yukari from P4 Arena, especially since that'd really piss my friend off
I don't keep up with events
What happened in Nagoya
She's in
Morrigan movements could be cool, not sure if this slower game would work with it though.
My guess is that she plays like I-No.
>all dps are disjointed
Not true at all
I could see her having something like Izanami's float mechanic from Blazblue.
Or May actually.
Where do their hitboxes connect to their non existent hurtboxes?
Why do people make posts like this when they clearly don’t know what they’re talking about. Is this really what happens when you try to make a fighting game aimed at smoothbrain gachaniggers?
May? All May has is a faster and higher than normal jump, otherwise she has the same double jump/airdash as everyone else.
Hit Gran during his dps active hitbox = he takes damage
Hit Ferry’s active dp hitbox = she doesn’t take damage
I shouldn’t have to explain this
She keeps jumping around and generally moving in the air with her stupid anchor.
Are you saying that there's no point in gran's dp where he has an active hitbox that you can't also knock him out of? because for it to function as a reversal that has to literally be false.
No, it’s a reversal because it’s invincible ON STARTUP. But if you throw it out and Gran is in the air during his dp animation you can hit him and do damage. This does not apply to Ferry’s do because she sends out a ghost, and the ghost is disjointed. Hitting the ghost will not damage Ferry. Can you please learn the basics of fighting games before posting
and during that startup it has a disjointed hitbox, because otherwise he'd always trade with any meaty attack. Any invincible move is technically a disjoint for at least part of the move, this shouldn't be that hard to understand.
This is Lancelot and his wife Djeeta, say something nice about them!
He doesn’t trade with meaty attacks because he is invincible, not because the move is disjointed...are you pretending to be retarded or what?
Why is Lancelot cheating on Vane?
Why is Djeeta cheating on Percival?
that's the same thing. he's invincible because he doesn't have a hurtbox, but having a hitbox during that time makes it technically a disjointed hitbox. that's what i've been saying from the start.
Is the gacha game worth playing? Kinda got a bit interested.
So how fast is this game going to die after it releases?
Looks like he mixed up his blonde king husband Vane with a blonde demon girl shitter
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Not unless you like retarded amounts of grind to get bigger damage numbers.
not really
just wait for Relink imo
Lanchan...
I just noticed this game doesn't have a release date. How are they doing a beta with no release date? Is this a legit beta test?
That’s like saying a character’s entire body during any invincible move is a disjoint which is simply not true. I’m not going to argue this with someone who doesn’t understand what a disjoint is. I’ll explain it simply for you:
Gran’s dp is invincible on startup but he can be attacked during his dp’s active frames, sword included, his dp extends his hurtbox. Ferry’s dp is invincible on startup and the active frames of the attack can be attacked, but will not damage Ferry at all, because it’s disjointed and not part of her hurtbox. Please go drool somewhere else
just play it casually and do free rolls
It's not even a beta test, it's a network test.
they were testing the network things
And since you know what's happening, as the better player you'll know how to beat it.
Why are there even male characters. No one is going to buy this for the male characters. wtf take them out and put more waifus. dumbass developers
I forgot to complaint about the netcode in the survey
>one of those fighters where you sit there blocking for 20+ seconds until your opponents obscenely long combo ends and you have an opening to punish
Does beatrix have a real shot to get in?
sigh
They're in.
>he doesn't know
not their body, but the hitbox for any attack that comes out is literally a disjoint. A disjoint is any hitbox without an completely overlapping hurtbox, no matter how much it bothers you all reversals have disjointed hitboxes during their invincible frames, because "invincible frames" are just frames without hurtboxes. the only exception would be super armor type reversals where you still get hit but power through the hit without flinching.
It is a beta test though
you can tell because the PS4 icon had the beta letter on it
This game looks unbelievably fantastic stylistically but as a fighter boring with low moves/special variety & combo/general depth.
>How are they doing a beta with no release date? Is this a legit beta test?
In the old days, fighting games were playtested in japanese arcade, at the end of a playtest session, people write their thought on the survey and they make changes for the next playtest.
It's basically the same here, it's not just a fake beta to test the servers before launch and promote the game.
I think you got it wrong.
GBF go for fujoshit long time ago and only new characters are either fujobait or cuckshit.
>Vampire Sandwich
Just read the story and events if you want to get into the franchise. The grind requires serious autism.
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call me whatever you want but I wanted a typical anime airdasher and I'm still sad
dude this game is super slowwwwwww. the art looks good but thats about it
No since no one even have them except for the toppest of autists
SHE'S IN
I'm a wage cuck though.
that doesnt exclude you from being autistic
Okay I thought you were trolling but I see you really are miseducated so I will give you a hand.
>”In fighting game lingo, a disjointed hit box is when the hit box of an attack (the part that can harm your opponent) is separate from the hurt box of the attack (the part where your opponent can harm you).”
>not their body, but the hitbox for any attack that comes out is literally a disjoint.
That’s not true. In street fighter, if dhalsim throws out his leg and it travels full screen, you can attack it. The leg extends his hurtbox. Thus it is not disjointed. Reference the beginning of this video to see it in action.
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Gran can send out a poke with his sword in neutral, but if he misses, and you time a hit correctly, while his sword is still out, you can whiff punish and hit him, cause his hurtbox has been extended. His sword is not disjointed.
In GBVS, Ferry can attack you with her whip from full screen, but even though it’s an active hurtbox, you can whiff punish it and attack it, from the other side of the screen. If you can still damage her by hitting the whip, it’s not disjointed. It’s still part of her character. You can even dp her whip and damage her. This it’s not disjointed.
But with Ferry’s dp, she sends out a ghost that is NOT part of her hurtbox, it’s essentially a separate entity. Hitting it will not damage her. This it’s disjointed.
Do you understand now?
>Not Caim
Oh nononono
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Meant for
Why would you invest on The Tower though? Isn't it the hardest summon to FLB? The thing doesn't even give you a waifu like The Devil and Death
That book is so damn good. Yuel is hairy as fuck and even takes it up the ass in it. Very good taste user.
Yozo is awesome
Retard.
ReLink may yet get a late 2019 release date, you might as well wait for that because it's going to be better than the grindy flash game that gbf is.
I'm not trolling, and I understand plenty well, I already know dhalsim or gran's normal attacks aren't disjoints I never said they were. you're the one who doesn't seem to get what i'm saying.
>not their body, but the hitbox for any attack that comes out is literally a disjoint.
This was in reply to
>That’s like saying a character’s entire body during any invincible move is a disjoint which is simply not true
As in "during the invincible frames any attack that comes out is a disjoint" because as you posted
>a disjointed hit box is when the hit box of an attack (the part that can harm your opponent) is separate from the hurt box of the attack (the part where your opponent can harm you).”
You can't get more separate than a hitbox existing when a hurtbox doesn't exist. so on frame 3 or whenever it is that gran's sword first gets a hitbox during his reversal, if he's still invincible (which he is or it wouldn't be a reversal) he has a disjointed hitbox because there's no hurtbox on screen overlapping his swords hitbox. It's only for a few frames of the attack, but for those few frames it's technically a disjoint. After those few frames his hurtbox returns and the attack ceases to be disjointed.