What went right?

What went right?

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Literally everything.

>unique aesthetic/setting
>memorable OST
>fast-paced gameplay with many different styles of play that took full advantage of the DS
>avoids a lot of the typical JRPG plot pitfalls despite being a Squeenix game
>motherfucking tin-pin slammers

>motherfucking tin-pin slammers
My nigga.

how can i play this game if i don't have a DS? i would play it if it was on Steam and on sale for $4.99

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There’s a mobile port that’s available for $17.99. It’s downsized gameplay wise compared to the original DS version but it can still be pretty fun.

TIME

I WON’T EVER GIVE IN

NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU PULL ME IN

I KNOW GRAVITY AIN'T AN EXCUSE

I KNOW GRAVITY AIN’T AN EXCUSE

I JUST WANNA MAKE THINGS A LITTLE MORE SMOOTH

MAJORITY IS STILL ASLEEP

THEY’RE TIRED OF THOSE DREADFUL DREAMS

>likable cast of characters that grow and develop
>a heartfelt plot that was able to blend in emotional drama, ball-busting humor, and insane twists and turns together incredibly well
>unique and fun gameplay
>incredibly memorable OST with plenty of bangers
>Nomura's aesthetic actually fits the setting and remains some of his best work
>unique gameplay mechanics that not only gave the game more identity but also reinforced the messages and themes of the story
>insane replayability and great post-game content like Another Day
The bigger question is how did everything go so right? TWEWY seemed like the last time Square actually had their shit together.

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It was lightning-in-a-bottle. Squeenix couldn’t just rely on the FF brand or nostalgia to make it sell so they had to actually try. The devs were also incredibly passionate about the game and went out of their way to make sure that TWEWY took full advantage of the DS system.

EVERYTHING
SO GOOD

fpbp

>unique gameplay mechanics that not only gave the game more identity but also reinforced the messages and themes of the story
This was one of my favorite things about the game
>mfw Uzuki and Kariya boss fight

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What didn’t go right?

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You just had to remind me, didn’t you?

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Buy a DS? They're like 30-50 bones, and you the rest of the library is solid

Y'all ready for E3?

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youtu.be/7WJfz7Nwx1A
Today, I will remind them.

It's worth buying a cheap DS/3DS on eBay for.

Weren’t there rumors of a TWEWY 2 popping up around recently?

how the fuck do I avoid taking damage with my partner on the top screen

I fucking love the way TPS was portrayed in the game. It made it feel like it was actually a real thing. It had its own business, tv show, slang, cults, cheaters, and even criminals if you consider AND canon.

not being made by square enix helped.

Appart from what most already said, just how fucking fun the gameplay is, when you're starting with basic pins and no knowledge of builds and also when going for more sofisticated setups. I remember it hooked me right up like when you're 10 and getting a videogame for the first time.
>The devs were also incredibly passionate about
So much this, you can tell they really were

learn to use their block/dodge on the big hits

Another Day was a masterpiece.

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Music, gameplay, interesting art style and no bullshit, just pure action.

TWEWY has one of my favorite combat systems of all time. The amount of depth the pins added to the battles and the way you can set up Neku’s moveset, as well as having to sync with your partner to perform to the best of your ability, made grinding an absolute blast.

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The original release. Shame about the ports.

>if you consider AND canon
it's a major part of the plot as a parallel universe, of course it's fucking canon

no, this was a mistake and i don't want to be proven right

>you’ll never play TWEWY for the first time ever again

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>start up game for the first time
>Long Dream plays in the background
>”We can do this, Neku!”
That’s when I knew the game was going to be special.

You guys did get 100%, right?

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What the fuck was his problem?

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everything but mingle pins

>always level up during a pig fight and forget to reset at least once per playthrough
i understand this doesn't affect the stated values but it will never be 100% to me unless i have level 1 clears on all enemies, too
wish i had a picture but that data is long gone and i gave the cart to someone else a few years back. gonna have to get that 100% some day, though.

Loved the unique designs that went into each brand. I unironically wore some of these when I was an edgy teen

Autism.

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Didn't think there were so many Nomura fans on Yea Forums.

how about TWEWY fans

Sometimes, very rarely, Nomura isn’t a hack.

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Did Nomura even do that much for TWEWY besides the designs?

He did, actually. He was the one who pushed for the battle system to take advantage of the DS’ hardware and actually helped research for the development.
>Working on the title now, the experience of making the DS title It's a Wonderful World that released last year was very helpful. It's a Wonderful World from the planning stages aimed to make use of the DS's features, it became a game that utilized the functions of both screens and the touch panel only the DS has, where you could carry out a battle that was simultaneously different on the top and bottom screens. I personally researched the DS while developing It's a Wonderful World, wondering what to do to make Kingdom Hearts work on the DS. As a result, I felt the best response would be to bring the action elements natural to the Kingdom Hearts series to the DS, a reverse idea to the new directions that It's a Wonderful World took to when adjusting to the DS, furthermore I had confidence that it could be powered up and new elements could be implemented.
>As a matter of fact, I tried to make the title of It's a Wonderful World only numbers, but because it was a new series, I gave up the number title since I feared it people wouldn't remember it.
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>Kando: In the beginning the three of us kept sending game ideas and were in arguments about it.
>Arakawa: Right. I remember being chewed out by Mr. Nomura. He’d say “No, we could do this on the PSP,” or something like that. The hurdle was really high from the get-go, because we set out to create “a game that can only be played on the DS.”
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>we set out to create “a game that can only be played on the DS.”
it's been over a decade and it still holds true. hope they try to make future titles their own thing

So that's why the game is filled to the brim with shitty gimmicks.

>shitty
The microphone pins were fun as fuck to use. Mingle was a pain in the ass to use, though, I’ll give you that.

it is indeed the reason. nothing wrong with making a game without mass-market appeal, unless you are profiting off the release and only care about that aspect.

The pins had great designs. Reminded me a lot of Jet Set Radio.

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Plenty of ways to design a game without doing all that stupid shit, although I suppose with a dumb platform like the DS, you don't have much choice. I was never really one for shoehorned touch screen features. It's partially why Dawn of Sorrow is worse than Aria.

There are, but then you wouldn't have TWEWY. Nothing wrong with not liking the game, and everyone who doesn't like it has their reasons.

Maybe it wasn’t for you but I loved how TWEWY took full advantage of the DS hardware. I never had trouble with the touchscreen controls myself, personally, and there’s this one guy on Yea Forums who was actually able to beat the game with a literal stump for a hand.

SINE

COSINE

THESE COMMENT LINES DON'T CONTRIBUTE SHIT TO THE THREAD

Stump user is based.

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I almost thought you were quoting the game

it'd really suck if i had taken an opportunity to go on a tangent in a comment chain

Nice digits

>mfw he showed up again for the 10th anniversary
Wonder how he’s doing now?

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Hey, it's far from the worst when it comes to touch screen controls. It's not completely garbage like Kid Icarus: Uprising or something. I do think that the DS's layout and design definitely stunted its potential for good action games, though.

Idon't understand the complaints about KI:U. I just booted it up again the other day and it felt fine.

Who was the best boy and why was it Beat?

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His backstory got to me, honestly.

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It's on Switch.

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Ouch

It probably sounds corny but I can relate to this. As well as Neku and Shiki in some ways.

Well KH3 had Shibuya in its secret video so SE definitely has the series in mind I think. I strongly think we'll get another game.

huh, nice

The controls are total ass in KIU. Double-flicking the analog stick to run feels awkward. The camera movement feels awful compared to that of a mouse and/or right analog stick. And the shitty one-handed grip the game expects you to use just cramps up my left after a while.

And worst of all: the N3DS analog support literally turns the right analog knob into a stick for movement. Like, fucking really? What the hell were they thinking? At least let me control the camera with it.

That’s what I loved about TWEWY. The cast really did feel like a group of teens with their own sets of problems and flaws they had to work through, which made their character development all the more great.

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Persona 2 and 3 did it better, though.

And TWEWY is not those games. Doesn’t mean the cast have less any depth than those games.

Neku and Shiki learning from one another and helping each other grow was genuinely wholesome as fuck to see.

I disagree. Persona 2 especially did more with its characters than TWEWY ever did.

Ngl, I actually shipped the fuck out of these two when I first played the game. Still do to this day.

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And, again, TWEWY is not Persona. I’d honestly argue that the way TWEWY uses it’s mechanics to help further its themes and messages make it pretty standout compared to Persona.

In that regard, sure. But regarding a cast of teens with their own sets of problems and flaws they have to work through, I'm going to agree with even if it was an out of place claim to make.

Based Neku/Shiki chad.

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Maybe, but who says you can’t appreciate both in their own ways? I like the way TWEWY handles it’s cast and I like the way Persona handles it’s cast.

>Nomura
Noumera's designs can sometimes be legit good, it's just that they're often intertwined with homoerotic overtones or a very confusing plot

>who says you can't appreciate both in their own ways?
Nobody in this thread, at least.

>I’d honestly argue that the way TWEWY uses it’s mechanics to help further its themes and messages make it pretty standout compared to Persona.
This. I don't really want to argue it because I enjoy Persona as well but I think TWEWY is a special game in particular for how well it was able to develop its characters in a timely pace, while still making them feel believable and on top of that being so thematically consistent to where even the basic concept for the gameplay engine is incredibly relevant to the games overarching themes.

Joshua somehow felt even gayer in DDD.

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Is Joshua really gay or just Neku-sexual?

Yes.

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Post em, you zetta sons of digits.
>Favorite pin
>Favorite song
>Favorite partner
>Favorite moment

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>Favorite pin
Excalibur. Was fun as fuck to slash away at enemies with lightning.
>Favorite song
Transformation
>Favorite partner
My nigga Beat
>Favorite moment
The Reaper duo boss battle.

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>Favorite pin
The icicle pin
>Favorite song
Deja Vu
>Favorite partner
Joshua
>Favorite moment
Finding out how Neku’s death really happened

>Noumera's designs can sometimes be legit good
TWEWY certainly aren't on that list, whatever it includes.

Reminder that he did nothing wrong.

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His week was the best. The game entirely breaking down and him disappearing into nothing really made it feel like everything was coming to a close.
Being able to finally take down reapers really showed the progress from week 1, though I never fully understood the power levels in the game. Is a player inherently weaker than a Reaper? It seemed that way when Beat became one, but then they went on ahead and took down highly experienced reapers anyway.

>fuck you i didn't like it
Neat, but I'm not sure why you'd spend your time engaging with fans of something you didn't enjoy.

>not liking the TWEWY shopkeeper designs
Sad.

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This is a open forum, not a cliquey circle jerk. I'm allowed to dislike something I'm discussing.

Never said you weren't allowed to. Just found it odd that you'd prefer to spend your time talking about something you don't like instead of something you do like, that's all. I'm just one person, not an authority on anything.

Neku and Shiki were starting out in the game, to be fair, and Joshua was hiding his power level in order to avoid not getting caught. Plus, there’s this excerpt in the Secret Reports.
>Upon becoming a Reaper, one's physical body changes, gaining incredible strength and an extended lifespan.

The shopkeepers were great, man.
>mfw maxed out her shop just to see her spill her spaghetti more and more around Neku

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People like to bash things they don't like? How is that a hard concept to understand?

Meh.

>no porn of them whatsoever
Fuck this gay Earth.

It's not a hard concept to understand. Preferring that to discussing things you enjoy is what I'm at a loss for, but at the end of the day, different strokes I guess.

>Not posting best Health Food store grampa
Sad.

i claim top middle as my WIFE

That's what I assumed, which makes it all the weirder how things went down in week 3.
Was Neku just that overpowered compared to everyone else?

No one said they preferred it. Are you just making shit up to increase your >you count?

Actually, yes. It’s noted that Neku had a high Imagination compared to everyone else, which was made him able to use almost all of the pins in the first place.

Happy-go-lucky circle jerks where people do nothing but echo praise and enjoyment for something are boring as hell. I'm not looking for some safe and warn environment to discuss something I like all the time.

Daily reminder that Jupiter of the Monkey is objectively the best brand and that anyone who says otherwise is a fag.

Considering he was handpicked by the Composer it's to be expected I suppose.
I wonder if previous Composers are just players like him who overwhelmed the system.

Nomura was ONLY the character designer and his atrocious storytelling skills were NOT used.

>Why yes, my favorite brand is Lapin Angelique. How can you tell?

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Based and LASSpilled.

cutting your health down for massive damage was the best way to play

he was definitely involved in A New Day, that or a random intern told to come up with sequel bait

Based

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>not Pegaso
I want plebs to leave

An unfortunate tragedy because if this is all true? Nomura ruined Neku's happy ending. I don't consider Final Remix canon.

>all of those mind games between Sho and Joshua

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It’s a good thing parallel universes are confirmed to be a thing, huh?

It is for the best. They could have continued exploring the game world in so many other ways, but they choose the same cast with the same city in what may very well be the same game format. I thought they explained the UG system the way they did so no matter what kind of game they made, on whatever platform, they'd be able to do something far more interesting than this route.
Then this post happened and I'm far more at ease. It can be canon but a new parallel. Still upset at the huge missed chance, but maybe all is not lost, if they at least go this route.

TELL ME WHO YOU ARE AND WHO YOU WERE. HOW MUCH HAVE YOU BEEN PAID?

Best song. Made running throughout Shibuya a treat.
youtu.be/PjCXl9KdzOA

TAKE IT EASY
R-E-L-A-X

WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING TO DRINK?

Brainwashing Shibuya to the extent that the citizens essentially become mindless zombies was kind of fucked up, even if he did do it to stop Joshua from nuking Shibuya.

People give Nomura a lot for shit, plenty of it justified and his fascination with belts is legendary but when he feels like it he can crank out peak jrpg designs. My personal favorite is still probably Auron.

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They did, actually. Would’ve made things a lot more interesting if they went that route.

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How would a new TWEWY game work now that touchscreens are kinda out?

It would be interesting to see the devs take that same design philosophy they did for TWEWY on the DS and apply it to the Switch to have the gameplay revolve around using the Switch’s hardware.

I still need to get around to playing FFX. How is it on PS4?

>Reaper’s Game set in America
>get shot on the first day

For once? Everything.

>When you realise they could hold out well against the black noise because you can damage black noise with the light puck

>one of the game’s mechanics revolves around changing and influencing the trends by wearing brands into battle to make them popular
>Kitaniji abuses this by issuing a mission that has you wearing a specific pin (the Red Skull pin) into battle to make it popular, thus furthering his goal of complete mind-control

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I feel like the Switch has less wiggle room for gimmicks than the DS, but I'd like for them to prove me wrong.
Either way they can't continue in the vein of Solo and Final Remix and expect it to be well received.

>want to replay on switch
>forgot how much I hate motion controls

welp

>make an amazing, one-of-a-kind gem of a game
>never do anything like it ever again
>choose to instead rerelease the same game over and over again while missing the point of what made it so good in the first place
God I hate Square Enix.

Sorry Mate, I like Jupiter of the Monkey too but Natural Puppy has a cleaner look AND bullet pins. It's clearly the best brand.

How about a quick thought experiment/game lads? Take the number month you were born with and cross-reference it with the postions of the Brands in the Zodiac, with Mus Rattus being the first, so January, and Wild Boar being last, so December. Think about if you could pull off a look from the brand you get. I'd get D+B so there's no fucking way I'd look anything other than atrocious.

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This.

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waiting until the 3DS was dead to revive the IP was a fucking baffling decision
now they're put in an extremely awkward position where they can't improve upon the base gameplay, and the writing quality in a new day seems noticeably worse,
i'm not convinced a sequel would be anything other than disastrous at this point, but i would also be mad if they didn't release it after blueballing me for all these years

>Jupiter of the Monkey
Fuck yeah.

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>Lapin Angelique
Oh boy.

I love these kinds of fanart. They’re so comfy.

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>we'll never get the insanity that was TWEWY's dual-screen gameplay ever again
It hurts.

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Neku is cute! CUTE!

We know, Joshua.

Stop posting, Josh.

Just give us a TWEWY 2 set in a different UG with gameplay designed FOR the console it's released on.

Hope you got a high bravery stat and a cute physique, user.

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every switch game essentially being forced to be able to be played docked is the biggest hurdle in creating anything good out of TWEWY on the switch in my opinion
you can't recreate the accuracy of the stylus with waggling, nor would you be able to multitask as easily with such a control scheme
if they could ignore the docked option entirely i think they could create something good, maybe by splitting the screen horizontally like in that webm, but for now i really can't see what they could do

FOLLOW MY LEAD

SCREW THAT

>femboi Natural Puppy Neku
Oh my.

>amazing art style
>gorgeous UI
>catchy, varied music that grows on you hard
>for most of us a somewhat relateable story (when it came out)
>Thorough likeable cast that makes even side and minor characters memorable
>Intense varied gameplay with hundreds of ways to switch it up
>Uses every ounce of the DS' potential to it's highest degree
>Meaty post game that rivals the initial game

For me, TWEWY is the closest the world's come to a perfect game.

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Neku in Smash when?

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At least day 0 and 1 has a catchy ass beat. They all do, but those are my favorites if I remember. Can never find a link.

>That "Are you ready?" before japanese Someday starts
I'm getting goosebumps

I'd love for him to get in more than anything. He has an insane moveset pool to pull from as well as great music just begging for Smash remixes.

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>Makes some noise
>Not hushing, crushing, facing, or erasing some noise

>Fav pin
Lightning Rook or Love me Tether for gameplay, Pyrokenisis or Wonder Magnum for design
>Fav song
Japanese twister, Long Dream, black box version of make or break, japanese someday or Deja Vu
>Fav Partner
Joshyboy
>Fav moment
Really hard to choose just one, maybe meeting Sho for the first time or maybe when that street salesman slowly gets confidence in himself

>music is randomized to ensure that the battle themes never get old
This game was way too ahead of its time.

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>hi res pin art
Where are the rest?!

Probably never, no one but us dedicated fans know about him.

Got them from this site
khinsider.com/the-world-ends-with-you/pins

There's so many pins and threads setups I've probably never tried even though I've clocked the core game three times. I just tend to use slash pins, bullet pins, and a barrier. Recommendations for really mixing it up, Yea Forums?

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Gonna take awhile to save all of these, but it's better than nothin. Thanks man.

>you unlock more battle themes the more you progress through the game
>you can even buy the music in-game to set as your pause menu theme

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Found these setups off an old Gamefaqs thread
>Lightning Deck
Lightning Rook
Lightning Rook
Excalibur/Black Jupiter
Lightning Rage/Other
Wassup Voltage!/ Network Spider/Other
Lightning Pawn/Jelly/Pegaso

>Burninate Deck
Blue Blood Burns Blue
Blue Blood Burns Blue
Black Mars/Final Pyre, All Expired
Drake
Tin Pin Ifrit/Lazy Bomber/Other
Sizzling Gaze/ Fox/Dragon Couture/Other

>“Can’t Touch This” Deck
Walk On, Walk Off/Boomer/Whirlygig Juggle
Blink Step/Boomer/Whirlygig Juggle
Teleport Warning/Boomer/Whirlgig Juggle
Wolf
Velocity Tackle
Splish Splash Barrier/Tin Pin Thrift/Boomer/Whirlygig Juggle

>Juggle Like It’s the Circus Deck
Ice Risers
Tigris/Tin Pin Shiva/Blizzard Cool
Kusanagi/Shiro
Lightning Rage
Wolf
Boomer/Shiro/Blue Blood Burns Blue/Other


>Slow Enemy Deck
Lazy Bomber
Shrew
Lightning Rook
Lightning Rook/Other
Spider’s Silk/Meteor Spike/Splish Splash Barrier/Other
Cornix/Visionary Blend/Speed Factor/Other

>Fast Enemy Deck
Lightning Rook
Lightning Rage/Tin Pin Rocker/Lightning Rook
Black Mars/Final Pyre, All Expired/Blue Blood Burns Blue/Drake
Wolf/Velocity Tackle
Splish Splash Barrier/Black Saturn/Other
Network Spider/Wassup Voltage!/Ice Risers/Gimme Dat Elephant(or Hippo) /Other

>GOT BALLZ deck
Lazy Bomber
Shrew
Aqua Demon
Frog
Aqua Pawn
Burning Berry

>Balanced Pwnage
Kanesada
Anguis or Speed Factor
Excalibur
Lightning Rage
Drake
Velocity Tackle

>Eternal Fire deck
Demon's Hatred
Drake
Blue Blood Burns Blue
Final Pyre, All Expired
Lazy Bomber
Velocity Tackle
>STREET FIGHTER/JOTM Deck
Kanesada
Izanagi
Shiro
Mitama
Jupiter of the Monkey or Zantetsu

>Squeenix will never make a game full of soul like TWEWY ever again
How does that make you feel, Yea Forums?

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>Favorite pin

Blue blood burns blue stacked twice

>Favorite song

Calling

>Favorite partner

Shiki cause shes my waifu

>Favorite moment

So many to chose from but probably the whole sequence before the second week.

Depressed

>soul
I see what you did there

He’s actually not that good at math.

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so what the fuck is this going to be

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>Favorite pin
Sweet Talk Tether
>Favorite song
OOPARTS, COLD HEART, SO DARK, GO FIND THE MARK
>Favorite partner
Joshua
>Favorite moment
When you get to tag team this bitch with Beat and summon Rhyme to help deal damage to her

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Nomura taking on even more drugs than usual.

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Pretty sure he wasn’t even the sole character designer

Nothing to do with TWEWY, thank God

Is Sora in the world of the World Ends With You (a game Nomura previously directed)?

Nomura: It does look like it. But there's more meaning in the fact that it is not Shibuya (written with kanji), but Shibuya (written with katakana). Also, Sora promised Neku and the others in KH3D that he would meet them in Shibuya (written in katakana), but that doesn't mean it's directly connected to this movie.

FEEL ME WHEN YOU COME INSIDE

>he doesn’t know about parallel universes
Also, from what I can gather, the interview was a lot more vague and he actually referred to it the same way the people in UG Shibuya referred to it in TWEWY

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>tfw Konishi doesn't even have that much porn
Shame

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NOW LET ME SHOUT AND WAKE YOU UP

I really wish drastic could handle the dual screen for this game much better, I'm having a blast playing it but I've had to go on auto partner fast because of the stylus and pad not working together simultaneously

The pain never goes away

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TOUCH ME WHEN YOU WANT ME ANYTIME

ENJOY
>kicks you repeatedly
THE
>slams you into the pavement
FUCKING
>bum-rushes your ass with clones
MOMENT
>tackles you to death

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My hand was legit cramping by the time I was able to finally beat this fucker.

Can you play this game emulated on a laptop?

Considering how much the game takes advantage of the DS’ hardware, I’m not sure if that’s a particularly good idea.

That boss fight was both fun and tough.

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I suspected as much. Are there still physical copies being sold for reasonable prices or do I just use an everdrive?

Check amazon

You can get a copy off of Amazon for almost $30 bucks so you should be fine. I was able to get a physical cartridge for my second copy of the game.

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Cute fanart.

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>all of this genuine love for TWEWY
Alright, Yea Forums, you’re cool sometimes.

Came here to post this.

LET ME WAKE YOU UP

I WOKE UP THIS MORNING, BAE

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>blocks your path

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>not liking midriffs
I want gays to leave

>ywn have a qt fast-food worker gf
Just fuck my shit up.

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You sound like a blast at parties.

WHEN THE SUNSET DYES THE SKY SO BRIGHT, SHE FREAKS ME OUT WITH HER SECRET SMILE

>tfw you always had headphones on because of this game for atleast 6 months after playing this.

Anyone else know that feeling?

I always tend to listen to TWEWY’s music with my earpods so I kind of know how you feel.

THE SKY ABOVE CHANGES ITS COLOR

FROM DAWN TILL DUSK, I WONDER WHY

IS THIS A CURSE OR JUST A HARSH LONG WINDING RIVER WHERE THOSE FLOWERS FLOAT?

Is this the game that makes the most out of the console it was released on?

Warioware and Kid Icarus Uprising come close, imo.

I KNOW YOU CAN STOP IT’S FLOW ON A WHIM SO I HAVE LEARNED TO SWIM

Based as fuck

>not Dragon Couture

UNTIL THE TIME IS UP, I CAN’T GIVE UP ON YOU

BEFORE THE TIME IS UP, I’LL LEAVE ALL MY REGRETS

BETWEEN THE LINES AND LINES, I AM LOST AGAIN

UNTIL THE TIME IS UP, I’LL NEVER GIVE THIS UP

TWEWY is still one of the best handheld games of all time

CALLING