Game has class divide

aww how cute, babbies first moral judgment

oh god man, poor rich people they are so unjustified portrayed they dont deserve this

I grew up poor and a lot of poor people, especially the ones in cities are disgusting, brutish, dangerous morons.

Yeah, it's very anti-semitic

I grow up in a poor neighborhood, people is easy to read when you know how they behave, is not like I can be afraid of poor people at this stage of my life. Rich people live always in panic to loose any privilege.

What are some games where I can kill the elite and redistribute their wealth?

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City people is disgusting, brutish and dangerous by default. I miss small towns so much.

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>afraid to be poor
>they also want to be rich
>hypocrites!
Eh?

yeah now i know you're larping as ''wealthy''

>they are unconfortable with poor people around them
Because poor people tend to have trash personalities that gravitate towards VIOLENT criminal behavior. Not everyone is like this, but caution is always good.

t. "Detroit isn't dangerous, I've only been shot once"

do you realy belive rich people isnt ass and could backstab you? you need to be a complete ass to become rich and RICH not well accommodated

You tell the truth.

Collective Farm Simulator 6: Inevitable Famine

Detroit was always a shit city
If that make you feel better about your own life, its ok for me I guess.
Is ont only poor people who steal and have violent behavior. Rich people can be violent and criminal, is just they know better how to use the law on their behalf

no it wasn't
and stop embarassing yourself, judging from the way you type you're either underage or an ESL

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it's the oldest trope out there and few people dare challenge it because they want their book (or any other media) to sell

>authors actually love the rich and think they're morally superior, but they feel forced to choose the underdogs if they want to sell copies
Yeah, no.

don't strawman kid

>game acknowledges both classes are evil and cruel in their own ways and that the human condition is only simplified for the advantage of smaller minds who can't easily comprehend complicated problems, which in turn does more harm to society than anything else
>the focus of the game goes from standard good vs evil to simple vs complex, and then to reduction vs growth
>ending is the realization that everything wishes to be one with everything either through total omnipresence or singularity of all things, and what humanity values most is nothingness

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>game has race divide
>everyone is a fucking asshole

tales of symphonia was my first red pill

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This, any city over 500k people is a shithole full of crime

>the rich are evil
>the church is evil
honestly the best and most based clichés in video games

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>money bad

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This
Everyeone's evil, poor and rich. The rich merely have more ability to express it.
Top example: Look at the Baby Boomer generation. They were universally rich and universally evil, despite being from all walks of life rich and poor parents

but it is! its just paper bro!

Biggest brain is realizing that if you are middle class it means the rich and the poor are both robbing you.

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I don't think so, the people from the first half of the XX century was far worse, I think that the lack of moral limitations makes people worse

Middle class like what?
In the age when those terms where coined being middle class meaned being the owner of a small business, a lawyer (back in those days there were far less lawyers), a public servant with some importance like an inspector or an oficial of an army.

Are you on government assistance?
Do you earn enough money to buy a car without thinking twice?

I love serving my masters, who have graciously given me enough money to survive. I wish I could work even more to bring them the wealth they deserve.

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it's a shame that the left nowadays are all scum who serve the rich without even realizing it

This post is highly anti-semitic

middle class sheltered faggots are the worst. literally milquetoast humans who like to roleplay as being above either group.

poor people have way more life experiences and actually have dealt with struggle to develop character for themselves for the most part. the ones that are low iq and haven't developed aren't pussy faggots or fake pussy faggots and will actually kill you.

rich people who are sheltered can get away with it because they can easily spend any of their wealth to get knowledge and experiences that the middle class can't, to the point where more middle class people are sheltered than rich due to superior education from the rich. aside from being above the middle class in every way, the rich also are normally just as lethal as the poor due to being above the law or just genuinely not giving a shit.

middle class people live static, boring lives and are extremely fucking gay.

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So you're saying that every body with 1000$ like for example free after paying the necessary stuff like housing, meals, clothes... is middle class?If that's true, then I see a big problem with what you said here is that you're mixing very valuable workers with shitty human beings like the people from the Human resource management department, you know all those daughters of middle-high class parents without any usefull skill

The middle class is dying in America. Everything has gotten too expensive so only the rich can own shit, and middle class people aren't poor enough to get benefits if they're not provided by their job.

edgemaster

More like most people want to be left alone in comfortable moderate luxury, with the ability to worship the gods (or not) that they please. Most would also prefer this in a racially or ethnically homogenous nation or area as well. There’s nothing wrong with tribalism and the sooner we figure that out, come to agreements about how to divide up our space, and separate, the better.
Games rarely tackle this because to do so would be heresy against the current religion of progress and diversity. A game made around establishing a safe, homogenous nation and running it is sorely lacking in today’s gaming industry.

No.
I'm saying if you're on gov. assistance you're probably poor.
If you can buy a luxury item like a car on a whim you're probably rich.
Both survive through exploiting the middle class.

Idiot commies think the CEOs get a check for $62 million each year. They don't. That income is wealth that is created from their ownership of the company and its growth. Should they just give away their ownership because it's making too much money? No.

Yes, it was. Not him but my family is from Detroit, Nobody care about pre-Ford Detroit, automovil industry is what make the town grow up. Of course if your idea of a golden age Detroit is based on old photos of the good areas in 1910, I have bad news for your concept of reality, because Detroit was in free fall since 1960 when the autoparts suppliers was relocated in the south and canada.

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Here's the real ranking for class divide, from best to worst :
>Born middle/low class people who made it and are humble about it
>Born rich people who are humble about it and understand in what situation the other classes live
>Middle/low class people that are fine with their situation
>Born middle/low class people who made it but are bragging about it
>Middle/low class people complaning about their situation
>Born rich people being condescending to other classes

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How is this even debatable? Look at fucking history FFS. Higher class/rich people literally believed themselves to be a different species, or that they were gods/chosen by god/of divine blood and could thus get away with anything.

In my country near nobody gets gov. assistance unless you're an inmigrant with nothing or you have a disability and those paychecks are very low

Just started playing through GR1 again.
So comfy.

The maximum value any human life can have is the price of one bullet. This is my philosophy and it's why I avoid pissing other people off or being condescending to them, no matter how much money or power I have.

The world has limited land and resources with the top 1% having big empty plots of land while the poor have crowd around shanty towns in the dark lower layer. Yeah, I'm sure there's a little resentment.

lmao

I love Gravity Rush more than life but that's easily my least favorite bit of the years.

>dude rich are evil and poor are suffering good boys lmao

I don't even have an issue with the message in and of itself but just how fucking overplayed it is, it's incredibly lazy.

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but my mom and dad never told me no growing up so I can't handle that

t.Edgy highschool student

I know it sounds edgy but it's kind of true, no? Crazy people will kill you for no reason, but sane normal people will kill you if you give them a good enough reason to.

With the destruction of the middle class and environment, and the rise of populism and anti-intellectualism I'm fearing a cultural revolution in the same way that china or russia had. People do crazy fucking things when they're desperate.

CEO's usually don't own the company, they manage it but the company is owned by the shareholders, CEO's usually are just a little part of the shareholders

That bothered me less than the fact that rich people living higher up with more sunlight are lighter skinned than the poor people living in the cloudy shithole.

Everyone is evil. Rich people are just better at being evil.

>Tfw didnt want to hang out with the poor people because their area was fucking annoying to get around

That's just bad worldbuilding

Humans were proclaimed guilty of persecuting elves, half-elves, but the game doesn't really show it. People hated the Dsaran's because they were assholes, not because they were half-elves. It can be presumed elves were on good terms with humans, because Raine and Genis passed themselves off as full-blooded elves and they never got any shit.

The rich are degenerates and the poor are savages. This much is true. The middle class life isn’t perfect, but it’s better than being poor or being a degenerate. The middle class SHOULD be the only class that matters. We seek comfortable, dignified, quiet lives with moderate luxury. Your “experiences” mean nothing and are nothing more than proof at how shit a situation you are in.
The real “path to enlightenment” is to not worship the poor or the rich. There is nothing noble in poverty, and nothing admirable in immense wealth. Life is what you make it, if your decisions in your free time are boring and bland, that says more about you than it does how much $ you make. I work a shit job at a catering company for $8.25 an hour on the weekends and am currently looking for full time employment somewhere better. There’s nothing to brag about with having done hard work for shit wages. It is only suffering. I enjoy my hours off. I play games, read online, discuss politics, go for walks, hang out with friends. I even intend on starting flint-knapping and target shooting soon.
user, just enjoy life, don’t hate others because they seem “boring” because most poor people are boring shits too.

t. poorfag bullied by middleclass kids

Is communism just a massive cope ideology for people who feel inferior to the successful and want to take them down?

The world would be a better place if everyone were middle class.

In all seriousness, yes.

I like to hate on the rich a lot but honestly growing up around poor and middle class people, the same type of cruelty is present in them as well. I kind of just hate everyone equally and try to live a peaceful, comfy life while slowly building my own financial capital.

I haven't met many kind people. Pretty much nobody gives a shit about anything besides themselves. If I actually met a kind, rich person who gave a shit I'd probably lighten up my views on them.

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What middle class?

And the result of richfags being morons

It's because wealthy individuals have more ability to affect change than poor ones so it's easier to write them into evil roles. It doesn't usually make sense to have the poor people be the grand evil mastermind but you do see some poor people being evil, usually in groups, like the small town population that is up to some eerie shit and wants to sacrifice the lone traveler to their dark god or something.

I believe that being born into wealth shouldn't be an option. Everyone should have to build their own empires and masses. Suffering unironically builds experience. It's why the most terrifyingly competent political leaders and inventors come from hard times. I think the current system, where you can be born into massive wealth with no effort on your part, will decay society and bring us into collapse. All the competent rich are dying out and we're left with their children who don't know how to shit without someone helping them.

The premise of communism, that human history is the history of class struggle, is not wrong. It just doesn't propose any working solution to that.

The only solution that a communist considers acceptable is to steal everything from the bourgeoisie. The acknowledge that capitalism can makes people's lives materially better, this is called "the easing of living conditions". Technology will eventually make the conventional economy obsolete when robots are doing all the work and humans wont need to labor at all.

There's still a middle class. It's just becoming more selective to keep out the trash.

This. It's why the theory of evolution was originally hated.

The middle class is like Santa It's your parents

If the workers weren't ACTUALLY successful (i.e. making functioning products and properly performing services) services, then the rich wouldn't be "successful" (i.e. just rich).

thanks for your milquetoast input middle class defense force

keep voting to support either my class or the poor class. cant wait for you fucking faggots to go through a terrible crisis

TOBLEROOOOOONE

How are you going to justify being able to tell rich people they aren't allowed to give their kids money?
What will be the break off point?
A percentage of wealth will be allowed to go to your kid? Would it be divided by tiers? How could you even enforce such a thing? Rich people would just give eachother's children's money to get around it.
At what age will they be ready to get the money? Will they actually have to accomplish something? need a speific degree? Who gets to decide that?

You see, little shits like you always think the answer to problems is to like you be in control, let you make a rule or two, then everything would be much better, right? Except you're too ignorant and navie to understand how intrigue the world is, so anything you could ever come up with would be a joke at best, and evil at worst.

The real problem will come when not even the middle class can find jobs to be able to afford to buy things made by these new fully-automated robots. This is why some look to socialism or communism in the modern day. The scary thing is that there is no reasonable answer.

Feel free to quit buying the products and services made by the "trash" working class, then.

ceewee

>game has class divide
>the poor become pseudo-communists and burn everything to the ground
What's its name, Yea Forums

I never said I had a viable implementable solution to the problem, user. I simply stated what I feel is going to cause our downfall.

You attacked that aspect of the argument because you cannot refute that we are going through a crisis of competency in modern society. Our leaders and business owners are becoming more and more sheltered, and when the bubble of peacetime bursts we are all in for really bad times. We're one hitler or stalin away from a permanent dystopia.

rich people earned it one way or another.
You are bot entitled to other people's property, and it's not their fault you're a poverty stricken bottom feeder.

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spurella

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I'm having trouble seeing if they actually went out of their way to model a vagina of it's just empty space with the leotard giving the impression that there's something there

communism is for people who unironically believe in equality

>rich people earned it one way or another.
Usually off of the backs of lots of workers.

Feel free to sink further into poverty when your skillset is replicated by a bunch of gears and a motor.

half-elves ended up becoming Dsaran's beacuse of human persecution and elves looking down on them and by turn started looking down on them both thinking they superior. people in slyvarant may not have been outright kill all elves but they were still looked down on and less trusting off them.

>464345821

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workers who have given their consent to get a determined wage for their labour

Not gonna happen,. My entire job is babysitting a bunch of gears and motors that can't go 5 minutes without shitting themselves.

why do you still make these threads

god wagies are such retards

Unless you are one of the top ten richest people on earth or closely related to them, you are on the list for culling. Don't kid yourself. We go into the future together or we all die together. Richfag or poorfag, we're all in the same boat.

Will you fight amongst yourselves and die like dogs, or will you absolve your differences and live as men?

>game has a violent religious cult that prays to a fucking rock

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Poor people suck, they don't have the same standards or respect for the things and people around them.

Coerced consent. If they don't have money they die of exposure and starvation.

Why does gravity rush have no decent porn? Seriously it all fucking sucks.

>implying ritch fags wont build space ships and bail the moment the planet shits itself.

Space is a pipe dream. It's never gonna happen.

>because you cannot refute that we are going through a crisis of competency in modern society

That's more due to things like affirmative action, where we're lowering our standards for diversity, from college to even being a police/firefighter, the requirements to succeed in these fields have dropped dramatically in order to get more minorities (usually blacks) into it.

I don't think you realize what a small amount of the population the sheltered ignorant CEO is and how little effect just those people can have on a country as a whole.

Detroit wasn’t shit before it was filled with niggers

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Because Kat is too innocent to lewd.

>>the rich are evil

no shit

Not sure why people hate the rich.
They provide cool tech and services that make your lives easier.

I am a poor redneck in Cali and I have no beef against the rich.
It's brain dead people who vote in corrupt politicians that I detest.

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How do I find a cute, rich gf who loves me for who I am?

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What? If anything, standards are higher than ever. Ridiculous certifications and amounts of experience are demanded for entry-level positions.

>Not sure why people hate the rich
They're jelly.

>Detroit was always a shit city

My dude. read. whats the point of having such strong opinions when you know nothing.

>Coerced consent.
not a thing

>If they don't have money they die of exposure and starvation.

welfare is a thing

How do politicians become corrupt?

There is no moral rich person.

You don't

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>being an adult
>believing in a middle class
oh honey

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that thing you people want to end?

> Ridiculous certifications and amounts of experience are demanded for entry-level positions.
Which affirmative action bypasses to a large degree.
The fact I even need to point this out shows you're too ignorant to be trying to discuss these issues.

Rich girls are usually rich because they fucked some rich dudes.

Either that or they are 50+ year old gilfs who are dried up.

Progress is not inevitable nor always desirable. Smart policy can prevent harmful progress. All it takes is for people to put their foot down. That’s the problem with the middle class. They have the numbers of the poor and are known for political activism, but they won’t ultimately put their foot down.
Also, I would rather die fighting for my tribe to prevent your degenerate future, than to join you in a horrific, rootless world based purely either on material or spiritual things.

only reason you poor or still middle class is beacuse you dont have wife or a husband you can pull your wealth together with and save enough to get out of your situation.

>Why do people who have nothing hate those who have it all?
Gee I wonder why

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>we need to cut taxes on the rich and corporations, it will trickle down
>doesn't trickle down

Why are Americans so gullible?

That's not even a little part of what's wrong with our society, in countries like Japan or France salaries are far lower than 20 years ago, basic goods are getting more expensive, the gov and the big corporations spy on almost everyone with internet...

lol if you think affirmative action is having that large an affect you’re getting your news from someone with an agenda

sup brainlet.

You wouldn't have corrupt politicians if it weren't for citizens voting in people who are easily influenced.

Just like you wouldn't have hookers if there weren't so many people looking for easy sex.

Don't forget most form of dissent, even non-violent, gets you thrown into hail

Who influences the politicians?

like what

Yeah is incredible how you can be jailed for calling some politician a corrupt in social media even if it's Vox populi or how you can be left without job and beaten by the system dogs because you said something against globalization

I can't presume to know your politics but many of those "corrupt" politicians are honest people that you think are corrupt because they threaten the rich's death grip on the country and so the rich have used the media conglomerates they own to endlessly push the narrative that those politicians are corrupt.

>Projecting the fact I'd get my news from a single source
lol
and all that has absolutely nothing to do with what we're specifically talking about, learn to read.

>kill the rich

lmao you delusional tankie, your homosexual revolution will get stomped by a well paid milita of mercenaries

Whenever I was dating I had less money than when I was single.
You might think getting married doubles your shit but in reality she will divorce your ass and you will lose most of what you have along with paying child support if you were stupid enough to have a kid with her.

Being single nets you much more income.

Marriage and divorce is only beneficial to Females.

Try to film a policemen beating a citizen and you'll get arrested

probably not

dont marry a whore then.

>not because it's impossible to find a rich gf
>but because it's impossible to find someone who loves me for who I am
I-i'm not feeling too well, mr. user.

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It has, you're just focusing in a little part of the problem called atomization of the society, identity politics are just a part of it

This, CEOs are not much different from us wagies. They are also wagies for shareholders and can just as easily be fired if not worse.

If none of the politicians excepted bribes then the rich wouldn't bother bribing them.

If someone told you that you can double your income if you payed someone a little money you would do it in a heartbeat.

Get rid of greedy politicians and the uneducated citizens and you would have a more fair election.

Those are the two things destroying a country.

You'll figure out when you're an adult that very few people are poor because of circumstances out of their control and most chronically poor people are poor because they're fucking losers who never grew up and learned to behave like civilized adults

Any game where rich people are good?

Fuck off

hes right tho

They are just very well payed workers

Nothing he said is wrong
People who think CEOs are like emperors of their companies are literal fucking retards

I guess most females are whore then looking at divorce rates.

Both of my parents have been married 3 times.
People just get tired of each other until they are too old to care.

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Batman games.

Except they don't do any work

How do you know?

Your mom looks like Clancy Brown.

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he thinks that ceos are like mr burns

The worst that can happen if you fuck up at work is you get fired. CEOs are responsible for company, people working there and shitton of money. If they fuck up hundreds of people can lose their job and they can easily be held responsible.

That is what happens when schools don't give economic formation to the students

Fuck off with your bullshit false consciousness, the CEOs will never be on the workers' side and always on the side of the stockholders, they serve the same interest, they rake in the money whilst the workers do the actual work.
>B-b-but I need to go to business lunches with champagne and delegate tasks to managers, it's such hard work, and if I fail to deliver results my bonus might get halved to only several millions, or I get shunted with a massive severance package, won't anyone please think of the poor CEOs ;_;

Corporate bootlicker

I don't even work so... try again.

So you're licking that boot and you don't even get anything in return?

I dont think you understand licking boots is work. I don't have to work and never will have to.

You need to buy a gun too, retard. You're not as clever as you think you are.

You are such a fucking retard.
Try not projecting onto what we're saying so hard, we never said the CEO was on the same side as the average worker.

I don't think you understand the metaphor being employed here, but then again you probably don't understand anything about employment, parasite.

>revolutionaries fighting against fascist state are also evil
very creative, bioshock

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>we never said the CEO was on the same side as the average worker.
>This, CEOs are not much different from us wagies. They are also wagies for shareholders and can just as easily be fired if not worse.
Your bootlicking lies are coming apart already?

It was still miles better when nogs weren't around

Bioshock falls into the South Park problem of
>if you have a strong opinion on something, you're stupid or evil

yes

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Why are you so mad, did ceo fucked your waifu or something? Just admit you're not qualified to lead the company and you're easily replaced low qualified worker. This is why workers will never raise up because you can also replace them with obedient workers. While you will starve on streets.

I wish you ESLs would stop posting here.
Nothing he said was wrong and nothing he said implies CEOs would side with the average worker.

This
I'm glad I moved back to my nice human city where you can walk from one end to the other

But have you tried bein both stupid and evil?

Church is just a perfect candidate for villains, if only because you can point at their god and escalate until you fight it.

>work hard your entire life to give your kids a good upbringing and send them to university
>government takes that money and gives it to daquarius instead because his dad is in jail

CEOs are fucking everyone, dipshit. You think workers need the CEOs or shareholders? No, they need the workers. All profit made by the CEO is stolen wages.

Don't fucking play dumb, what the fuck is "CEOs aren't much different from the average wagie" supposed to imply other than they're in the same situation, belong to the same class, and have the same interests? It's a gimmick to try to make them seem sympathetic. Never forget who the enemy is.

>Technology will eventually make the conventional economy obsolete when robots are doing all the work and humans wont need to labor at all.
They've been saying this since the spinning jenny hundreds of years ago ffs, when will you get it. Human labor will always be needed even if the shape of it is different

Most inventors had aristrocracy ties or were direct nobility.

I don't know if the is a compliment or not...

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>Game where the big bad rich guy loses, the poor benefits, and then the poor turns heel.
Name 1 (one) game where this happens.

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Well duh, no one else had the free time to bother with experimenting and shit, they were all working their asses off to survive.

>You think workers need the CEOs
Yes, because they're to dumb to manage the company.
>shareholders
Also yes because they need initial investment to build their workplace.
I don't think you realize how world works. Those factories the workers work in someone had to build them and that someone spent millions if not billions to build them so they expect a return and profit. I wouldn't expect anyone who clearly never invested in anything to understand.

Bioshock Infinite.

because of niggers who abuse it.

>Yes, because they're to dumb to manage the company.
What kind of classist bullshit is this?
>Also yes because they need initial investment to build their workplace.
So what do companies do before they become publicly traded?
>Those factories the workers work in someone had to build them and that someone spent millions if not billions to build them
Is your response to criticisms of capitalism literally "but capitalism exists"?

you're also autistic

Isn't everyone?

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I've seen good and bad on both sides. Poorfags will employ direct, barbaric tactics to fuck you up. Richfags will sometimes stoop that low but usually play the game to fuck you up. The key is to not play their fucking game or give attention to their dumb cliques, get a small plot of land somewhere and just fish with your dog for the rest of your days.

still spouting you're poor, huh?

Yeah the enemy is retards like you who don't realize how retarded they are.

Poor people tend to be stupid, brutish and extremely materialistic. They are much more criminal too but on a day to day life they also show much more anti-social or plain disgusting behavior. They have poor hygiene (and post 1850 poverty doesn't cover being physically unclean, literally no excuse), they are rude more often. More issues with alcohol and other substance abuse.
Voluntary poverty is by far the best (either the full monk route or even the casually poor one) but it represents a tiny proportion of the poor.

right, but do they consider working class poor? like a guys supporting a family on 60k a year?

can't wait until we can replace poor people with robots bros. it's gonna be sick

>game has poor people rushing to the rich's defense

cringe

>no rich, kind people

I've met a few. But most of them are perfectly happy stomping on the lower classes because they've justified / rationalized their wealth as proof of their superiority. Very few rich people have actually earned their wealth, but the ones that have definitely deserve respect.

>game has middle class larping as revolutionaries

Although it's funny because within the upper class, people who earned their money in their lifetime are looked down upon as not being "proper rich".
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nouveau_riche

Precisely why free market capitalism with regulations to root out anti-competitive practices is so great! Anyone who can think of something other people want are free to start selling it, becoming wealthy themselves! God bless the USA!

A natural consequence of the accelerating effect of money.

Having lots of money makes it exponentially easier to make even more money.

Having no money makes it exponentially more difficult.

It's not funny, it's natural. If there's someone out there that can make a change that doesn't benefit the rich for once, it's self-made wealthy person.

What is stopping you from starting a business providing a service to other people exactly? Is it maybe laziness? Maybe you want what people who come from people who worked hard have but you can't get it because you're shit so you villainize them?

that was a surprisingly good anime

What are you talking about. I'm shitting on people being born into wealth thinking they're hot shit, I've no problem with humble rich folk.

Rich people have serious issues with alcohol

>Anyone who can think of something other people want are free to start selling it
No, you have to make it first if you want to sell it

>raise your kid to be a spoiled brat who doesn't try in school and gets shit grades
>he doesn't get to go to university despite having infinite money
>Requisha decides he wants to get out of the hood and make a name for himself so he tries his best and gets good grades
>he gets to go to university despite being poverty-stricken
FTFY. That's actually how it worked post-war when people realised that everyone is a fragile finite miracle and being fair to each other is for the best. Now we're slowly regressing back to a Victorian-tier class divide and it's all thanks to people like you worshipping billionaires. When we're side-by-side shovelling horseshit for our weekly loaf of bread, don't say I didn't warn you.

>people who come from people who worked hard
You mean freeloaders who didn't do shit? You mean the vast majority of rich people?

>implying there aren't businesses with low overhead like programming or internet sales
No one can make us git gud at life but ourselves user, stop blaming other people and just lament your unfortunate circumstances while doing nothing to fix them like normal people.

Their ancestors worked hard for them, which is a sign of how far we've come as a society and a species. You should start on a safe investment portfolio to pass down to your kids.

Thats only with darkies

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You call it "people who come from people who worked hard". I call it "people who come from people who come from people who come from people who come from people who come from people who come from people who come from people who fucked someone over".

>starting a business
>fucked someone over

Isn't wonderful that we live in a world where we can insure the welfare of our descendants if we put the time and talent in?

Programing and internet sales require more investment than you think, let's suppose that you're a 30 years old guy that wants to learn programation and then start a business, you need the time to learn which is not always compatible with a full-time job and then you need to survive the process of starting the business (business then to not be profitable the first year) and you have to take in consideration that the 80% of the business fail in less than 2 years.

because of a scapegoat that's convenient

cringe bootlicker

So what you're saying is you have to work hard to get nice things? Why does this make me angry?

>and they can easily be held responsible.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahaha

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Isn't wonderful that we live in a world where we can pretend that a puny minority of the rich represent all of them to feel better about living off our parents' money? Might be news to you, but people who started tech companies in their garage aren't the average millionaire.

>wants to throw a bitchfit because he's shit
Sad.

No I'm just saying that it isn't as easy as you first post said, IRL for example, an electrician can start a related business after working and saving for 25-35 years.

You sound insecure.

>the rich are evil
So just like in real life?

This board is full of bitter poorfags that think people who are better than them are evil. I bet these fags all think nazis were evil too.

Why don't you try and sell something and invest the money so your descendants don't have to work so much while your money helps fund other people trying to sell something?

Jesus Christ, Toyama...

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>work hard
Getting a seven digit bank transfer from daddy sure was difficult. Phew, I'm sweating just thinking about it.

Starting from zero is hard, that's why most millionaires are heirs

Because doing that requires money.

post it

Honestly, a fully paid, reliable car and the deposit for an apartment are the only things you need to get started in the states and start living okayish.
Something that's absent from dialogue in the states is that giant, invisible tax that is the car payment with liability insurance. You "have" to have the fucking thing, too.
Euros wonder why we don't raise the taxes and get better infrastructure. They don't realize that the difference between our tax rate and theirs is largely eaten up by our invisible car tax, created by the tremendously stupid urban planning of our predecessors. "OH HURDERDER A FUCKING METAL HORSE! YOU CAN JUST THROW SHIT ANYWHERE THANKS TO THIS!"

Their ancestors worked hard to ensure a comfortable life for their descendants. Why do you consider this a bad thing.
But if most people put the work in they could do it. Most people aren't willing to do that and are content with less which is fine.

Who was in the wrong here?

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>healthcare is free and universal
>no new hospitals being built to help poor people
>hospital workers are not paid for their work
>hospital supplies are not being reordered
welp since all the rich people are dead, we have to live like savages and move into the wilderness

dynastic wealth has caused every single current and nearly every single past issue with society

No, as a economy student I can guarantee that a lot of people don't have the knowledge or/and the abilities to manage a business

Real life. Get to it.

Fuck rich's.

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Only a complete sociopath can get rich in capitalism.
The faggots that inherit it just get to chill with the wealth their sociopath progenitors have robbed.

Business is largely chance even with optimal planning. Being rich gives you more rolls.

Hard work doesn't always pay off.

>Why do you consider this a bad thing.
If nobody in history thought it was a bad thing, you'd be living in a pigsty hoeing barley for the local baron. Or maybe your ancestor was said baron, which subsequently is why you think having access to limitless opportunity for no effort beyond forking over your dad's cash is okay.

Those poor poor millionaires

How will they ever cope with someone calling them evil on a Korean basket weaving forum, just imagine how much they must be hurting while they ride their Lamborghini jetpacks

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Why don't you start baking cookies with a secret ingredient and selling to people at a farmers market, maybe people will like them?

DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER
You would have to literally shoot the ones in power french style though for this to happen.

What argument do you even have.
>Just keep trying until you eventually get it in this ideal utopian universe I've concoted where you can keep trying and trying until you eventually succeed and your mistakes and failures don't have any consequences and there's nothing else in your life that also requires your attention
Are you a leech to a rich daddy? You genuinely can't be this fucking naive.

No, people in history thought forcing people to live in a pigsty was a bad thing. Most people think the idea that anyone can make it in a free market capitalism is great. Why do you think your entitled to someone else's opportunities that their ancestors made for them?

Hmm.

Then maybe you should have not bringed blacks to there is first place.

>But if most people put the work in they could do it.

Not him but that's objectively false, while the free market is volatile and open to change. Established businesses can and will undermine upcoming small businesses if they view it as a threat. There are only so many avenues one can specialize in for enterprise purposes and unless new structures for said avenues like the internet come about there is little room for everyone.

their ancestors are brown, they didn't make anything.

The wealth is accumulating into fewer and fewer hands, as well.

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Maybe you should have not brought them to america in first place, fucking idiots.

Because I didn't choose to be born, and I especially didn't choose to be born into poverty. You shouldn't be given special treatment because you happened to materialise in the balls of a stock broker. I believe that one's wealth should be determined by their own performance, how evil of me.

it's not and it never will be, get over it faggot.

>Is [conflict] just a massive ideology for [living beings, as individuals, groups and species] who feel inferior to the successful and want to take them down?

1-first, you arent defending capitalism because you think it's the better qualitatively, you simply think the status quo benefits you. The "commies" think it doesnt benefit them
2-capitalism-communism dichotomy is not only outdated, as we're way past the industrial revolution, but it is simply a human artifice to explain something as simple as conflict.
3-for real, you should stop bitching about da muh gommies11!!1!!
you seem to defend and accept the inter-individual conflict in the capitalist society (successful and inferiors) but wont accept inter-group conflict.
4-in the same way that capitalist bootlickers are hypocrites, so are commies for thinking the new system will avoid conflict.

>implying
You never clearly have lived with white trash then.

>itt

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Don't bother user, did you forget the burgers were too lazy to do their own work thus used foreign labor to do it? Now they bitch about them despite the fact it was there own laziness that invited the situation in the first place.

Fuck them, they will get no sympathy.

>Hahahaha fuck the poor
That's the actitude that caused that half of the world burned with civil wars in the XX century

Good to know you agree that it isn't morally justifiable. I guess OP was right.

the poor are shit just like the rich, never going to change.

Victiorian style class divide is gonna end in hangings, just way more indiscriminate.

Until we kill eachothers in the WWIII, the last war because nobody is going to survive the uclear winter

There are two classes: lower class and upper class.
Your class is decided by the family you are born into. You cannot go up a class, but you can go down one.
You would understand if you weren't American, as all Americans are inherently lower class. Even Bill Gates is lower class.

Is this the Gravity Rush thread?

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Fuck you, nazi!

No, it's about discussing the distribution of wealth

For rich guys middle class is poor too.

I love small towns, but I want to move to a bigger place because I'm tired of having 3 Mb/s internet.

So it’s realistic?

>did you forget the burgers were too lazy to do their own work
productivity wasnt decreasing, it was just corporations seeking higher profits
delocalization wasnt due to people being lazy, it's simply the result of industrial and technological advancement, from refined assembly lines to transportation

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>t. Europoor burger flipper

Yeah this. I finally started making more than a few thousand dollars a year, but that pushed me up to where I make just a little too much for any actual benefits.

My family is from Detroit, read this by 80´s detroit was already poor but mostly because richs moved all industry to mexico and canada.

Sounds like something an immigrant could do for half the pay.

I think you're missing the point user.
>rich basically killing the poor
>kat helps the poor
>rich are being killed by some enormous monster
>poor want nothing to do with it
>kat tells poor to fuck off and saves the rich herself
Kat is pure good (and cuteness) who helps all in genuine trouble

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Rich people is not better or more evil than regular citizen, but they want privilegiate spaces and social segregation, that´s sort of evil.

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There's a very simple solution to that

this
GR is about Kat's character arc and where she starts off in 1 where she doesn't really give a shit about saving people to becoming a true hero who will save ANYONE

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Is Yea Forums finally turning to the left? After all these years of /pol/?

Being a wageslave engineer made me see how badly the talentless have the talented whipped
I've been in the med device industry for six years, and I've generated around 20 million in revenue through the products I've helped develop and design, including one I've got my name all over the patents and invention disclosures of since I was the primary design engineer for 90% of its' mechanisms.
I make only 90k a year, whereas my manager (who does nothing all day, he's not even a project leader) makes 150k, and his manager makes "more than double", who does even less work.
The truly rich are just leeches on society that profit off the backs of the talented that can only fight back by starting their own companies, which will then be bought out by big companies who will suck any worthwhile IP out and destroy the remains.
Apology TnA for the blogpost.

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Well.. yeah. That's just a common sense way of making a story. If the rich weren't evil or at least complacent to what actually is evil, then they would be working on reforms for the class divide to be non-existant.

I mean, really, a story with goodie two shoes rich trying to help but being scorned by the evil poor sounds retarded as fuck.

Nah, exploitation isn't a thing. Shut up and grind wageslave.

This Yea Forums guy sounds really indecisive.

>After all these years of /pol/

>Being a libertarian
>Start entering in /pol/ and learning about fascism
>"Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state"
What did you expected?

Are they really talentless if they have enough talent to make the talented wageslave for them? At that point they're either more talented than you give them credit for or you're not as talented as you think you are.

Nah, your boss just worked harder than you!

Yea Forums does not exist
there is only /pol/

>when one of the Lei Hivana residents says Kat isn't cute because her skin isn't fair enough

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You're making assumptions there. Assumptions such as people cannot get into positions of prestige based off of nepotism instead of personal merit.

>be american
>have nothing
>except education and an extremely high standard of living including access to a computer with high speed internet
>still tho, have nothing.

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It used to
Mussolini was originally a communist, the thing is that fascism was never left in practice

STFU commie

Have you ever had a real job?
95% of all managers are incompetent retards. Doesn't matter if it's a McDonalds, an office job, blue collar work, etc.
It's like teaching, those who can't do, manage

Fascism was corporativist, ie industrialist bootlicker

Oh I'm not denying the very real truth that it's "not what you know but who you blow" but if you can successfully convince someone who is more talented than you, with patents et al to stay in a job for infinitely less than they're actually worth while you're taking in a paycheck nearly double for less work then it just sounds like they have a PhD in coasting.

>When we're side-by-side shovelling horseshit for our weekly loaf of bread, don't say I didn't warn you.

lol you fantasize about that much with your persecution complex? grow up loser; learn a trade.

Tell me Yea Forums, how do you feel about unions.

I know, I agree. I'm just pointing out that just because they're retarded in the metrics of their job doesn't mean they aren't talented bullshit artists.

jews btfo

>tfw work at UPS part-time
>cannot fathom how in the actual fuck this place ever became a multi-bil company

Spanish brought more of them to South America and Africans sold their own to us

thank you very much for making this post
I will be saving it now

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Can good people that care become and stay middle managers or is the crushing weight of generally being useless for anything productive kept in the hands of sociopaths?

I can't imagine exercising what little power I have to just huff and puff how important everyone should find me when EVERYONE knows it's just the worst bullshit. The stress of being a permanent third wheel would eat me something fierce.

Reminder that people that cry about the rich being evil are literally just jealous they don't have that type of money.

You're not very talented if you're still stuck doing all the work six years in.

Yea Forums is full of all kinds of people. The only trait they all share is
>being stupid
>hating video games

>persecution complex
Persecution reality, actually. Make sure to remember me when the middle-class is nothing more than a fleeting memory and all that bootlicking was for nought.

It’s not like the workers came up with the ideas

>people who work hard to put food on their table are envious of people who live the high life without lifting a finger
Imagine that.

>without lifting a finger
Yeah, because rich people always just trip over their millions of dollars and never do a single thing to earn it. Want to know how I know you're still a teenager?

>Having lots of money makes it exponentially easier to make even more money.
>Having no money makes it exponentially more difficult.
runescape taught me that
it's difficult to make money as a noob
but once you have lots of GP you can buy gear/mats for higher income methods and also flip/invest for passive income

a lot of that money is in capital gains on things like stock
if it was dumped on the market, it would crash

>because rich people always just trip over their millions of dollars and never do a single thing to earn it
Correct.

Current nobility is a pathetic sight as they're still playing pretend while everyone else already moved on and most people don't even know they exist at all.

rip antitrust

True, actually. The majority of the heads of big billion dollar companies usually had most of their starting given to them. Jeff bezos had a bunch of money to start up amazon, he didn't just make that from scratch.

Hello envious underage.

I've seen some incredibly hardworking managers.
I've seen some incredibly lazy grunts.
The first and second highest salaries in my store haul fucking ass and stock like their lives depend on it. It blows me away every time I see them working.

Then I go about my day and see a morbidly obese black woman waltzing through the aisles with one little five pound box in hand and both earbuds in.

It's just that people in general are useless and the only way to "trim the fat" is for a legitimate psychopath to get in a position of power. No one really wants that, though. You can't put all of your money on one work horse. The normies are still needed to kind of pad things out.

It's possible to become rich by hard work

It's also possible to inherit wealth or luck into it. And as has been pointed out, there's a feedback loop with wealth. A billionaire needs to do essentially no work whatsoever to make $50m in a year; an amount it would be nearly impossible for someone on the poverty line to earn.

Then humans by nature are evil, in which case, who cares?

Hello talentless freeloader.

But thinking they're all evil because you just have jealousy issues is retarded.

yes.
In capitalism you have to slave away for ugly fucks youd rather see dead and pussy has human rights so you dont get any.
In facism you have to fight wars for ugly fucks youd rather see dead and pussy has human rights so you dont get any.

>game has class divide
>the rogues are evil

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>It's also possible to inherit wealth or luck into it
Affluence isn't something a lot of people understand, i.e. the ignorant born-into-comfort types

>guy with good idea makes company
>makes a good amount of money with company
>hires investment companies to turn his million into multi-millions
>give children millions, who can then just reinvest most of that money into pet companies who just has talented people do all the work to make the companies' products
>children are richer than parents
Many of the world's billionaires are the kids of upper-middle and upperclass parents who gave their kids a loan of a million dollars or more to start up a business.

No. Both left and right hate the rich. They just hate them for very very different reasons. Kinda like politicians.

you suit faggots will get shot one day and it will probably be by the nigs you like so much

yes goy be productive for my completely made up shekels

Just give me the uncensored versions already.

soon

If everybody hates the rich maybe there're reasons enough to hate them

>guillotine
>tool made famous by the french revolution
>aka the event when the rich merchant proto-capitalist class rose up and destroyed the previous feudal ruling class
>used by socialists in memes against capitalists
?

Envy isn't a valid reason.

There...are. Yes that's what I'm agreeing with.

I work for myself. I work because I want to work.
That's why I can gain an odd sort of satisfaction from my job. I'm being paid for the simple fact that I'm an able-bodied adult that doesn't need a babysitter to do their job.

anybody that works for a living and defends millionaires is a straight up cuck

>and the only way to "trim the fat" is for a legitimate psychopath to get in a position of power.

I really don't get how "trim the fat" involves putting psychopaths in positions of power.

You can be middle class and a millionaire, doesn't really mean as much as it used to

that you want a psychopath "ruling" you disqualifies you as an adult

shut up cucks you should get the rope

>WAAAH! BIG MEAN MAN MAKES MORE MONEY THAT ME! WAAAH!
Grow up.

when sandnigs kill your kids i celebrate

>class
>= wealth
*that's* the real annoyance

Why do cuckservatives rush to the defense of people who are making their lives worse?

because they rush to lick up the cum of their bull too

Maybe I should, but you'll literally never do anything about it.

The world is divided into evil poor people and evil lucky people. You're an envious, evil little violent man. Then there's the rich greedy evil ones. I'll take my spot in the middle.

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dont have to. Merkel invites enough sandnigs over and you shits get allah ackbard as you should

It's pretty funny, dems import immigrants to do their lawn work for pennies on the dollar, which benefits both people, whereas repubs vote for shit that allows companies to fuck everyone over harder and harder, which only benefits the jews, which repubs also hate

All Americans consider themselves to be impoverished millionaires rather than the poorfags they actually are.
Their defense of their corporate overlords is ingrained in their culture so I don't blame them for going to bat for them, it's instinctual.

Maybe they aren't consciously evil, but greedily hogging more resources than you could ever possibly justify needing is inherently bad, morally. "I deserve to be rich because if poor people worked as hard as me they'd be rich too" is nothing more a cope.
Deep down they know how much of a blatant lie that is, but nobody wants to accept that they're the bad guy. In reality, these are your options when becoming rich: thievery, backstabbing, exploiting the poor, or a mixture of the above.

Because blaming others for your lack of success is what children do.

So they should just give you their money?

and killing you is what immigrant adults will do

fuck their money. they shouldnt have more than a middle class life tops

No you're missing the point. Most billionaires aren't evil because they just have more money, they're evil because they almost universally did horrible awful things to get that money. Like starting wars, slaughtering innocents, and destabilizing entire countries for the sake of more oil.