This article is so retarded, how the fuck can Death Stranding be a "batshit crazy" adventure game, when the combat is realism garbage like bamham/the last of us/uncharted? We all saw the gameplay in that trailer, combat is fucking trash and boring as shit. When I think batshit crazy, I think Metal Gear Rising, DMC 3/4/5, Bayonetta, Vanquish. You know, games with actual batshit cuhrazaaaaay gameplay. This game just looks like boring dogshit with boring "realism" gameplay. Batshit crazy my fucking ASS.
? Are you retarded? Crazy combat doesn't make shit weird. DMC and Bayonetta and NG all come off as generic trash compared to something like Silent Hill.
A game cant be "batshit insane" when the combat is such dogshit and boring. Is RDR 2 "batshit insane"? Is Uncharted "batshit insane"? I tell you what games are batshit insane, Metal Gear Rising. DMC 5. That's batshit insane.
Landon Turner
that is some awful looking cg, the characters all look so rubbery, like real dolls
Joshua Wood
Are you some sort of hyper retarded "whoops, no brain" person? He's not talking about the combat dumdum, he's talking about other the actual adventure part. DMC/Bayo aren't batshit insane breh, you're just mashing attack against punching bags.
Evan Clark
>mashing buttons in dmc and bayo
lmfao good luck doing that
Luis Wood
I've done it user. Both games are easy to beat mashing. I actually just beat ldk on 4se mashing like a tard. Please user...
Carson Perry
Are you replying to your own thread? Lmfao
Angel Morales
You are misinterpreting crazy with CUHRAYZEE. One is a term invented in here for over the top games, the other just means weird/unusual. How fucking retarded are you, grab a dictionary, read a book once in a while.
Cooper Hughes
Combat will play a small part in the game.
Alexander Taylor
then the game is shit
Nathaniel Adams
>MGR >DMC >Bayonetta >Vanquish
Go away, Kamiya.
Chase Jenkins
>Completely nonsensical, with no rhyme or reason, as if made by a schizo and every other mental illness in the book >GUYS IT'S AWESOME IGNORE THE MONEY I AM BEING PAID TO SHILL IT IS BATSHIT INSANE IT IS GOOD TRUST ME I CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT SO IT'S GOOD
William Myers
Its going to have same old open world gameplay we've seen played a million times.
Brayden Clark
>the combat is realism garbage like bamham/the last of us/uncharted >Bamham >realism You can do flip kicks 10 feet across a room as a 240lb man, it's not particularly realistic user.
Eli Rodriguez
>all gameplay must be combat I never understood this.
Perhaps what walking simulators need to be good games is a way to make the travel challenging?
I don't know if it'll be good in Death Stranding, but I'm happy that someone is at least making an attempt to improve the challenge of an action game outside of combat.
Video games need to go beyond combat.
Christian Anderson
Then the game is not for you. It's like you don't know what the adventure genre is even about.
Nicholas Gutierrez
You're an actual retard. Crazy in the mainstream means unusual in some way. CUHRAYZEE is Yea Forums lingo for standard combat systems in over the top action games.
Parker White
>I CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT >Completely nonsensical
There are ropes, umbilical cords and ladders everywhere, half the gameplay is about finding ways across gaps. There's a big speech about 'bringing everyone together to survive'. The player character's last name is BRIDGES.
What could this game be about?
I'm excited for it, but I'm tired of all the people saying it looks confusing. It puts visual metaphor ahead of visual realism, it's pretty clear what it's about; as for the minutae of the plot, no shit they're not being open from minute one. God forbid someone would actually preserve some mystery on an unreleased project.
This is like Inception. The film was incredibly straightforward, but because it included some interesting and unconventional visuals, everyone pretended that it was confusing/difficult to understand.
Christian Torres
Not Kojima's fault you're too dumb to understand his games.
Henry Howard
That's their dumbass fault then, you don't make a setting look realistic then use weird ass nonsensical looking visuals.
Isaac Lewis
I don't think this will be half as good as Inception. But if you're a Kojidrone I can understand how you would.
Hunter Rogers
Action-adventure games tend to have simplistic combat. What pretty much defines the genre is breadth over depth.
Leo Hughes
Must have very high iq to comprehend kojumbo games
Ryder White
>people have emotional breakdowns over the mgsv disaster >everyone eager to line up and suck kojima's dick with this game How does he do it?
>you don't make a setting look realistic then use weird ass nonsensical looking visuals They're trying to show a breakdown of order and meaning, it's perfectly appropriate.
Jackson Cook
Then go full on surrealism. With surrealistic combat to match, like Bayonetta.
Levi Richardson
They're like Kojima.
They pretend to be smart.
Jacob Lewis
KEENG UV DUH NOTH!
Colton Cook
Much like this board already does.
Jason Davis
Isn't the point to feel small before the nightmarish events before you?
Making a stylish action game would undercut that.
William Turner
i'm not clicking your shitty link. but you can have batshit crazy adventure game without having cuhcrazy metal gear rising button smashing gameplay
Evan Myers
were do you people come from? none of those game are batshit crazy adventures. and the combat rather mediocre.
Isaac Hughes
They somehow managed to make her even uglier in-game, truly a colossal achievement.
Jackson Myers
>You know, games with actual batshit cuhrazaaaaay gameplay go back whatever subreddit you came from please
Charles King
>otherwise generic hack n slashes are batshit insane because you can get carpal tunnel from the button spamming >game that is said to be inventing it's own genre with a crazy story and adventure and probably tonnes of innovative gameplay is not batshit crazy, because the 3 seconds of combat we saw wasn't button spamming/hack n slash. makes sense
Cooper James
>were do you people come from? The irony coming from an ESL.
Kayden Martinez
You have no idea what "generic" means.
Cooper White
other than Vanquish. All platinum games are generic hack n slashes. same as DMC. >B...B...But MGR is totally unique cause you can aim the slash with the stick. no.
Anthony Wright
How the fuck is dmc v generic but some ugly guy with a backpack on slowly punching enemies like bamham does is somehow not generic?
>tiny saggy tits Are we looking at the same person here?
Easton Morales
well let's see. The entire world of Death Stranding is unique. the story is unique, design, everything we have seen. the climbing mechanics and travelling seem to be unique. we haven't actually seen much gameplay and the combat we saw seemed to just be MGSVesque CQC. you do realize no game is just it's combat mechanics right. >Metal Gear basically invents stealth >totally generic cause the combat is just like other MSX games. as for whT you are comparing it to. let's see. >dark and edgy aesthetic >corny tongue and cheek humour >entirety of gameplay is running through levels killing easy bullet spunge enemies by spamming random attacks to get style points or a high rating in doing so >occasional puzzle. which game am I talking about. DMC V is good fun. I enjoyed it. but let's not get carried away.
Brayden Perry
>inventing it's own genre
What genre?
Ayden Lopez
>tiny saggy tits I'm not even into her but please stop watching hentai for your own good.
Easton Butler
I play soul caliibur and gacha games, so yeah those are tiny saggy titties, look how they droop and shit
Jonathan Thompson
FPBP
Connor White
we just don't know yet. wait for the release.
Jonathan Johnson
we have to wait for it to be ripped off like ten times for it to get a name. Genre's are just a quick way to generalize a game based on what it is similar to. people have been saying it isn't really enough like a standard trope or other games to give it one.
Kayden Scott
DMCfags everyone. I'm guessing this faggot watched one too many GamingBrit videos and now thinks that every game has to have a super complex combat system to be worth while.
That man explains why these AAA westaboo game combat systems are shit
Jordan Cooper
It's realistic because it looks like a movie fight scene. I want games that have fighting like an anime.
Justin Taylor
Why is it so floaty?
Makes sense in Bamham because you're Batman. But there's no weight here.
The punches in Death Stranding are thrown like actual punches, you can see the weight behind the swing and the way it takes you slightly off balance, at least from what we've seen.
Lincoln Powell
It won't be inventing its own genre, that's just Kojima being a silly ideasguy and feeling his oats after getting all this global media exposure the past few days. It'll be part of the adventure game genre, which is decades old, and has always been story-driven and graphics-driven in order to carry the player into environmental puzzles and roleplaying-based challenges
Guess you missed the part where Kojima himself said that killing enemies would very rarely be the best option.
Carter Ortiz
fuck you I'm not watching your faggot video or giving you any clicks
Adam Brown
So how can you be so sure it'll invent a new genre? what is it that future developers will copy? because so far, in terms of gameplay it's a mix of MGSV/Uncharted with it's own gimmicks. The only unique things I've seen is the art direction and story, and I don't think that can be labeled as a new genre.
Dominic Richardson
That makes Death Stranding even worse. The more realistic a fighting system, the worse the game. ie. Red Dead Redemption2's melee and gun combat is literal dogshit. Death Stranding is gonna have even worse combat than fucking bamham and goddamn uncharted, holy fuck.
Parker Howard
why do her tits hang so fucking low?
Sebastian Carter
It's ok to play on easy but don't insult the game for your own failures.
Julian Reed
>PClets now coping
Justin Martin
>realism garbage like bamham I've seen several posts as of late with the same retarded thoughts, and they all have a similar aggressive faggot tone. I think i recognise you and I'm certain you need to be aborted
Jaxon Hall
yes we get it user. You only play games for hack n slash combat and the CQC mechanic in a game you are supposed to avoid combat in is not CUHHHRAZZZY enough. meh. I think it will be different enough. seems to meld a lot of stealth and has a weird enemy detection mechanic. then there is the system of when you die you go to a seperate world to come back, but everything you did stays in the real world.
Adrian Turner
Quit playing dumb faggot, when I say realism I mean how the fighting is like a movie, and not an anime. There's no launchers and juggles and shit in bamham, which is why the combat is garbage.
Carson Turner
Yep that's you. Bye nigger
Joseph Roberts
horror games are shit for the same reason, which is more fun, doing sick combos to monsters or running around hiding and occasionally doing some punches that look awkward as fuck?
Kayden Phillips
so I guess animal crossing is shit
Ryder Morris
For responsive controls. It's a shooter first, melee is just meant to supplement the shooting, for use in easy kills as a reward for correctly rushing the enemy. It's only possible to melee KO them all in sequence there because nowhere else in the game are so many easy enemies so close together and so distracted. Also the animations still look pretty weighty to me, like when he bonks the guys head off the wall at 9 seconds
Austin Morales
That all sounds like action-adventure to me, which has been a thing for decades. The first Resident Evil was described as action-adventure, because the game was part action (reflex-based timed movements) and part adventure (environment-based puzzles and key-finding exploration)
Benjamin Hernandez
>combat The game is centered on exploration and if you faggots don't figure this out now you'll only get disappointed.
dmc 1 had exploration and good combat, now what? same for ninja gaiden black
Cooper Myers
The wall KO is a good animation, I'll admit, but the jump attacks are basically horizontal motion.
It might play well, of course, I haven't played the Uncharted games, but the animation on the jump attack does look fairly poor.
My point wasn't that Uncharted is a bad game though, I understand that it's meant to emulate an Indiana Jones-esque action film in visual style. My point was that it doesn't seem like Death Stranding is in this style at all beyond 'realism', i.e. not being a hack-and-slash action game.
This video was posted , but I'm not sure it applies here - the punching DOES seem to require facing the enemy, and without range hopping. The guy saying it's bullshit because it doesn't have juggling is likely baiting - action games don't need to be in that style to be well done. I'm saying this as someone for whom DMC1 and DMC3 are both among my favourites of all time.
Grayson Brooks
definately the latter. but I don't have ADD thankfully. way more intense/suspensful. Personally I get the appeal of hack n slash. but I find the loop really repetitive and get bored of games where challenge is not in fail states but simply getting a high score. Either way not being able to understand different people have different interests and different tastes is pretty autistic. You obviously didn't like MGS if all your posts itt are how you feel, and certainly must hate Policenauts and Snatcher. so posting about Death Stranding is kind of silly of you. That would be like if I went to a thread about a new Kamiya game and informed you it was shit because it doesn't have any tanks. and driving tanks is what makes games good!
Ryder Adams
NGB barely constitutes as having exploration, but besides that, not every game needs to be split down the middle. It can be 3/4 adventure 1/4 action. Action doesn't need to be complex to be stimulating. That just means you prefer action games to adventure games.
Kevin Barnes
>CNN do you know what is batshit crazy? Lying on live television.
Caleb James
neither of those games had good exploration.
Jordan Turner
I think whatever he is doing with fail states will be pretty inovative and new. No game is truly original. But I mean even Dark Souls spawned an entire genre. I am sure it is somewhat action adventure mixed with stealth. But in the same was Smash is a fighting game.
Josiah Miller
What in the hell gave you the impression that Death Stranding is a character action game in the first place? check the URL again
Ethan Rivera
If anything it'll be utilizing the asynchronous multiplayer concept which has been around for a while as well. I don't think it will be innovative, but it'll hopefully be really cool and one of the better implementations of said concept.
Juan Morris
are you insinuating a stealth game should have a combat system that makes killing large amounts of enemies quick and easy?
Elijah Watson
>people are trying to do some kind of deep analysis of 20 seconds of gameplay
Why can't you faggots at least wait until the game comes out to do this shit?
Angel Baker
These people are unhinged. I think they're Nintendo fans.
Christian Wright
>literally who that wont show his face talking nonsense Why share this you retard? Is this you?
