I'm starting to think the whole anti-white male campaign in the entertainment industry in general but MOST NOTABLY the video game industry is some wacky reverse psychology tactic to deliberately increase the novelty of the white main character as the default by drawing more attention to it now than ever.
Has anyone else considered this or do you just take it at face value?
are you implying that the media is somehow smart enough to do something this counter intuitive?
cause that's hilarious.
Liam Perry
>Nu Wars> >EA Yeah no thanks
Austin Rogers
>white
the kid is clearly irish.
Juan Phillips
Isn't the (((media))) always playing 4D chess like this? The idea is to give the emotionally weak and unintelligent and platofmer to create rules to oppress your average person with traditional values.
Luke Rivera
That's not the point, it's just an image to start with. Discuss the topic.
William Watson
it is the point. Like Shepard was italian so cleary wasn't white.
Aiden Sanchez
This is how fucking deluded you people are. It was NEVER anti-white male. It was LESS white males. And because white males have been the standard forever, having "less" made you feel threatened. Even though instead of being the protag of 98% of games, they'll now be the protag of 96% of games, you still felt threatened.
Threatened to the point that you think that there is still some underlying reverse psychology tactic when there is a white male protag.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT. How do you people function on a daily basis?
Lincoln Cooper
JEWS ARE WHITE
Jason Allen
Participating in or instigating a flamewar
Elijah Rodriguez
Why is there so much bullshit when it comes to what white people consider white... Europeans are white. Russians are as white as Indians are Asian. Still white but a singular ethnicity. Italians are CLEARLY fucking white.
You never see this with Asians Blacks or Hispanics and I don't get it.
Ryder Taylor
dude is ugly as fuck
it's ok based nippon delivers actually good looking characters, see DMC5 or Sekiro
I'm the opposite of white you fucking retard and I'm just addressing an observation. How the fuck am I instigating anything, can you (((people))) not just have mature duscussion?
Ryder Rivera
because its american bullshit in europe we call ourself german, french, britsh etc and for the most part we hate or tolerate eachother
Brayden Rivera
I don't get it. That's like an Italian addressing white people on one thing and then his particular country on another. There's races and nationality.
Aiden Diaz
Nigger you're arguing race with /pol/cels. What are you doing.
Nathaniel Ramirez
So calling yourself "white" is an American thing? Because I have numerous acquaintances that were raised in Europe and moved to the US addressing themselves by their nationality first, and then white.
Benjamin Peterson
yes, american thing, seems like they accomodate themself in to US customs some dont even call themself european
Cooper Torres
Kinda looks like that kid from Treasure Planet.
Easton Russell
Italians are kinda like the filipinos of white people
Jordan Gomez
I'm 99% certain you're the *only* one that says that.
Caleb Carter
This thread confirms the most thin-skinned people in the world live on Yea Forums
Easton Long
For one, it's racist. Two, it's not threatening. It's apparent because it's forced. Why? Because it contradicts actual demographics and specifically because it's being done to exclude white men for no other reason that racism and sexism. If someone were to make a game in Africa with "less black men" you'd be saying the exact same thing.
Andrew Jackson
Italy is in europe, Israel is between jordan and egypt in the middle east
Hunter Davis
Shut the fuck up nigger
Ryan Gonzalez
I'm thinking you're a paranoid retard who's trying to rationalise away the evidence contrary to his conspiracy theory.
Juan Davis
If you gave a shit about "actual demographics" you'd have been right there complaining about the straight white men with the rest of them.
Kayden Smith
>t. drooler 1. Anti-white male campaign is a blatant tactic of the American democrats to gather a coalition of "identities" that would otherwise hate each other and unite them against a single enemy. The fact that soimales like you are blind to it is just embarrassingly pathetic. 2. Artistically this has been an absolute disaster. The idea was that someone said "hey there are a lot of white male protagonists maybe some variety would be good." Retards like you just took that at face value and that became the expectation. So now instead of good, interesting, human characters designed for the game and the story you have a bunch of cringe pandering to identities and forced narratives. 3. Forcing desired narratives in popular media for propaganda purposes has been a deliberate tactic of progressives for at least 10 years. I've actually met people who freely admitted to doing this with not a shred of shame. Mature people can tell on an intuitive level when you're deliberately fucking with them (infants like you can't, which is why the propaganda works)
I'm not racist or sexist though. A characters sexual orientation and race is a complete non-issue. Make them whatever you want. But when you implicitly state you're doing it to exclude another, that's when your racist and sexist agenda becomes apparent.
Evan Miller
But they're not doing it to exclude, they're doing it to include. The opposite of racism and sexism.
Christian Allen
>species and morality of a protagonist is a non factor in the gamplay and narrative
user... I
Jace Richardson
man, change white to black and suddenly your opinion appears very racist really makes a point moot
Joshua James
YOU ARE A VICTIM OF A LIBERAL GROUP THAT WILL DO ANYTHING THEY WISH TO GET THEIR SIDE OF THE STORY UP. THE FACT THAT YOU ARE EVEN WILLING TO FIGHT BACK SHOWS HOW PATHETIC YOU AND THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA ARE. ALL YOUR EFFORTS ARE NOW IN SERVICE OF THEIR AGENDA. THEY HAVE TO MANIPULATE YOUR MINDSET TO BE ABLE TO BE MANIPULATED. YOU ARE BEING USED TO THEIR AGENDA.
THIS KIND OF WHITE RESENTMENT AND HATRED AMONG WHITES IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS FOR OUR COUNTRY. IF WE DO NOT WORK AGAINST THESE FORCES NOW TO BRING THEM TO HEEL WE SHALL LOSE. THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SUFFERING THE MOST ARE THE MOST DISENFRANCHISED.
THERE ARE SO MANY ISSUES OUT THERE WHERE THE LEFT HAS FAILED TO ADDRESS RACISM. WE'VE BEEN SILENT FOR FAR TOO LONG ON THE PROBLEM OF THE BLACK LIVES MATTER MOVEMENT FOR ALL THE SAME REASON THAT WE WERE SILENT ON THE PROBLEMS OF CLASS IN POVERTY. THE LEFT SHOULD STOP BEING LIKE THE DEMOCRATS AND MOVE BEYOND RACIAL RESENTMENT AND BIGOTRY TOWARDS ISSUES OF SOCIAL JUSTICE OF THE NATION.
THIS WOULD STOP THE CURRENT GENERATION GROWING UP WITH SUCH A MINDSET OF PERPETUAL WAR ON ANY ASPECT OF THEIR HISTORY. NO MORE AND NO LESS, WE ARE ON AN EXISTENTIAL PATH. WE ARE GOING TO DESTROY OURSELVES AND THIS RACE AND ITS ALLIES.
I HAVE A BEAUTIFUL WIFE WHO LOVES ME FOR MY HARD KNOCKS. SHE LIKES ME BECAUSE I REFUSE TO GIVE UP ON MY HUMANITY, HER HUMANITY. THE WHITE MAN DOESN'T REALLY NEED ANOTHER IDENTITY TO BE PROUD OF. HE NEEDS A WHOLE LOT MORE.
ALL THESE LIBERAL GROUPS ARE IN FOR A SURPRISE WHEN THEY GO TO SLEEP AFTER THE ELECTION. TRUMP WON, AND THE WHITE MINORITY PEOPLE NOW HAVE A NEW LEADER TO HELP THEM LIVE IN. TRUMP HAS TAKEN THE FORM OF A BLACK NATIONALIST AND WHITE NATIONALIST. ALL OF THIS IS A CLEAR DEMONSTRATION TO PEOPLE EVERYWHERE WHAT KIND OF FUTURE FOR AMERICA AND ALL MINORITIES WILL LOOK LIKE AFTER THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS DONE WITH ITS GREAT WORK.
Xavier Scott
>exclude based on race >not racism
Brody Carter
Welcome back to the real world OP. Enjoy your brief stay as Yea Forums will once again subsume you with irrelevant paranoia and everything becomes a personal attack on you despite capitalism being the same shit for decades.
David Carter
Bird brain dean wrote an article about how call of duty is too violent
Oliver Torres
>I think we should tax the rich more >Ah yes, but if you change "rich" to "poor", suddenly you don't sound like an advocate of the working class, eh? Checkmate
Ian White
user, please read the word "not".
Logan Flores
that analogy has nothing to do with what i said, unless you are implying black people are poor, is there an end to your racism?
Grayson Morgan
>they are not doing it to exclude >exclude user please see past your bullshit
Luis Myers
user, please learn how analogies work, because they explicitly do not operate under the principle of "these two things are actually the exact same thing"
Liam Baker
They could've had some cool alien, but instead chose a white dude. Literally the same story and character as force unleashed. Disney and EA are racist in the Star Wars Universe.
Dominic Ross
Yeah, that is indeed the word you used before but again, notice the "not" before it.
Anthony Ross
just telling you that you are racist, don't care how you gonna cope with it, just dont try to make up bullshit for it
Cameron Reed
man you are thicker in the brain than a brick
Gabriel Phillips
Pretty much correct. I'm not saying there aren't retards who want to make it 50/50 or even 100/0, but the reality of the situation is that the vast majority of protagonists and characters in general in western media are still white. But the fact that there's slightly reduced percentage of white protagonists triggers identitarians to no end.
And you wouldn't know this if you only browsed Yea Forums since you faggots love to cherrypick and exaggerate.
Austin Evans
Ybois just aren’t believable as courageous characters anymore. Blame the last few generations of whinos and spaztics you’ve had.
Austin Morris
I honestly can't really tell what your rhetorical strategy here is beyond just saying "ah but actually what if... the opposite?"
Henry Perry
t. ESL
Oliver Cruz
Okay, so you went from "maybe racist" to "definitely racist" even though all I did was clarify how analogies work? Sounds like you're being real intellectually honest here!
Joshua Reed
Have sex
Brayden Allen
just playing your game on your terms
Nathaniel Harris
>they're not doing it to exclude See the following post. >LESS white males
>straw man
Oliver Morris
have sex incel
Michael Rivera
Honey, you wish you could keep up with me.
Robert Fisher
yeah i wish i was as big of a racist as yoy
Carter Peterson
>LESS white males Well yeah, but only as a consequence of there being a limited amount of spots to fill. They're still included, though. This is about categories, you know, not individuals. Video game characters aren't real. There isn't some out-of-luck white video game character sitting at home because affirmative action forced him out. White people are categorically still include, only now alongside other races too.
Brayden Cruz
I honestly wish so too.
Julian King
>see white male >immediatly think he can only offer being white but totally not racist at all guys
Anthony Gonzalez
>straw man
women are property and blacks aren't people
Ian Jenkins
Who are you quoting?
Easton Flores
your line of thinking
Nathan Howard
>White people are categorically still include That doesn't make it any less racist or sexist when it's implicitly stated they're being less represented because of their race and sexual orientation.
Eli Roberts
I am American-Irish. My grandfather was a black man. My grandmother is white, but not for her time; the Irish have only been considered "white" in the states since Kennedy and Britain post Troubles. I believe, perhaps wrongly, that this gives me a unique position and outlook on the issue. And personally I feel that there in fact is a strong push to exclude the straight white male protaganist from fiction. I honestly don't know why. I suspect it's a psy-op though who's pulling the strings I can only guess. Regardless, the fact that writers, producers and developers wear their hatred on their sleeves is odd, if not genuinely wrong. Rarely does a character's race/sexuality/etc. make them entertaining. Blade is my favourite Marvel character, the fact he's black doesn't and shouldn't matter to me or anyone Tldr fuck you and your bait
Charles Foster
the only people who care about this are nazis who think it's white genocide and commies who want to genocide whites nobody cares, have sex, dilate, commit 40%, etc. etc.
Aaron Hill
No, you're not. Glad to clear that up for you! Anything else I can help you with? You're literally setting it up so that racism can never ever be solved without an equally racist response, as addressing any inequality necessarily requires a change in relative standing. But to come back to my analogy of the rich and the poor: some people could stand to lose a bit.
Gabriel Clark
>no "video games" still based tho
Charles Richardson
>the Irish have only been considered "white" in the states since Kennedy and Britain post Troubles. Yeah, that's bollocks.
Brandon Bennett
>n-no nice try
Parker Diaz
People are just not that smart.
Jayden Ortiz
>some people could stand to lose a little bit racist and entitled, who are you that you think you are entitled to someone else stuff?
Nathan Wood
Okay, user. Please keep telling me what my arguments are in spite of me telling you the opposite. Do I even have to be present for this? You can just argue with yourself.
Chase Turner
>irish were treated worse than blacks >lol no admit it, you just hate white people
Cameron Scott
Taxing rich people didn't use to be such a controversial stance, you know.
Jose Russell
I think it's just white people crying about asinine nonsense, like they always do.
>irish were treated worse than blacks That's an even bigger falsehood.
And no, I don't hate white people I hate the Irish :^)
Blake Johnson
this place is one big shitpost, but i still belive yoi are arguing towards causing more problems than fixing them, your virtues arent very virtue, just a different shade of racism towards different people because MUH EQUALITY
Carson Mitchell
You know, if you guys are going to be so blatantly dishonest while arguing, what even is the point? You obviously won't convince your opponent. You might think you're convincing onlookers, but you're so bad at hiding your dishonesty, it's probably doing the opposite. Basically, you're just masturbating.
Asher Cruz
thinking you deserve someone else work is a commie logic
Ryder Cox
You're off by over 50 years on both counts. Irish being "not white" was a 19th cenutry thing mostly, the stuff that was around in Kennedy's day is still there. And Irish have been considered "white" for as much as white existed in Europe, i.e. in a limited scope because the French and Germans weren't about to have anyone claim they were the same race until fairly recently. But Europeans were certainly not above oppressing each other.
You feel like you can see a kickback, because it's not normative, so your brain spots it much more easily than the inverse.
Jacob White
Right, well, you're wrong.
Blake Brown
They do tax rich people.
Ethan Brooks
based lol where do you think you are
Connor Sullivan
Then what problem are you having with my analogy?
Joseph Russell
you saying this aint a shitposting central?
Aiden Thomas
Rich people don't "work"
There's an old saying. "No man can earn a million dollars honestly" it comes from the same person who gave us this good one. "The poor man who takes property by force is called a thief, but the creditor who can by legislation make a debtor pay a dollar twice as large as he borrowed is lauded as the friend of a sound currency. The man who wants the people to destroy the Government is an anarchist, but the man who wants the Government to destroy the people is a patriot."
Aiden Lewis
White males aren't the default internationally though, why should they be so in videogames?
Charles Ortiz
Seems like you belive in pattern recognision, some would say that is very racist, funny how you can spot that pattern but not others.
Aiden Davis
This by far is the stupidest thing I’ve heard. So i guess Indians and Arabs fall under the Asian category, which by your logic would be the skit eyed chinks (mongoloids). Jews and Arabs are factually speaking caucasoid, and are related to a degree with other caucasoid sub races. Denying this is stupid especially when you fags always spout “but muh science over feelings”. Almost seems like you’re doing the same shitty tactic the lefty Jews are doing. Also stop calling yourself “white” it’s not a fucking ethnicity like Japanese or Ainu you dip, and before you start calling a Jew let me assure you that I’m not and would rather blow the likes off the planet for their actions
because majority of them are made by white males go make your own tyrone
Wyatt Young
That people paying taxes is somehow controversial when it's not.
Brandon Diaz
>"No Blacks, No Irish" in America >ethnic and sectarian persecution in Northern Ireland, not to mention a millennia of attempted ethnic replacement by occupying English forces >literal slavery by Cromwell >no, you white lol
Nathaniel Jones
Middle class would say rich people don't work the same way third worlders in a factory would say middle class people don't work.
Levi Allen
if you honestly think that you're a wacko nutjob suffering from paranoia
Jack Torres
Guessing you’re Asian since they are the second to nig nogs who cry racism
Jack Flores
Humans are literally creatures of pattern recognition, it's the only thing we're actually good at. It's also the reason we need to resist certain kinds of it because it can easily lead us astray. Thus why we should always be critical of patterns we think we see, but can't back up concretely.
It's why young white men across the developped world much more easily fell for dumbass racists that range between the biggest jews you can imagine and quasi-fascists instead people saying "hey, the system has failed you and should change"
Ryder Lewis
Glad you agree fellow anti-imperialist. When do we liberate the global south then?
Isaiah Davis
Personally I think they are trying to radicalize white men, I know tons of young people going further right because of the endless progressive garbage and it isnt just white boys. My family is brazillian and all the guys in my family have suddenly become massive trump supporters who hate blacks lol. just feels like the elites are manipulating people.
Christopher Bailey
>recognize pattern >have data as a proof >no this pattern is bad you white male lol what a joke
Jace White
What proof? more minorities in video games doesn't constitute proof of a conspiracy against white gamers.
Ryder Russell
>some people could stand to lose a bit That's an awfully vindictive point of view when you could elevate people without victimizing others.
Them having that much weath is an act of victimisation on the rest of the planet itself. Because you know, money while not quite a zero sum game, often behaves very similarly to one, thus for the majority to gain, the extreme minority must lose.
This is why this generation is expected to be worse off (and is) than their parents, because the gains of the top 10%.
Levi Murphy
>anti-white male campaign You people have let the vocal minority of people on twitter voices warp your brain. This shit is a non issue in the Game industry unless you're only consuming shit like EA, Activation, and any other triple A garbage. I'm so sick of you faggots fear mongering the idea that the Industry is going to turn into SJW utopia. A few games that isn't about white males isn't going to kill you. Goddamn why don't anyone have a backbone anymore?
Racism will never be solved you fucking moron. You'll never purge people of racist bias or thoughts. Even a workd that is entirely black would still have dark skin negroids claiming lighter skin negroids oppress them lol.
Luis Allen
They're radicalising because their economic conditions have gone to shit.
You might notice that just as much as people radicalise towards the right, the left has also benefited from this. The only reason the right seems to gain more traction is because old people that lean that way in polling data.
Blake Ward
Uh, huh...ok.
Lincoln Diaz
I think that's what they WANT you to believe but just think about it, if some random guy on Yea Forums can think of this why wouldn't power-hungry trillionaires from old bloodlines think of it?
Ryder Jenkins
t. pastanigger
Leo Myers
Clearly the plot entails how the white supremacist learns how wrong he is and how his "diverse" (black humans) new friends are right about everything.
Joseph Ramirez
>he's implying the media are pulling the strings and not just useful idiots in the grand scheme of things laughing my lmao bro
Evan Sullivan
you give this industry way to much credit pal
Logan Scott
No, the media is always extraordinarily short-sighted and most of them are only pushing certain agendas because "market research" and "peer review" lead them to believe there is some massive market that'll keep them in business if they pander to them. In this instance, it's Californian weirdos, SJWs and "minorities". The former two don't actually give a shit, they just want to soapbox their fucked up morals, the latter doesn't want anything to do with the former two. That's why the current generation of media is completely falling apart.
>This shit is a non issue in the Game industry unless you're only playing the biggest games from the biggest publishers man you are dumb
Gabriel Gutierrez
it's definitely an american thing because calling yourself white makes no real sense if you're european. european countries are quite homogeneous, so identifying yourself a white male would be almost as redundant as identifying yourself a human male. what really matters is your country and culture. and even people who aren't white are usually identified by their country of origin or culture rather than their race.
america absolutely obsesses over race in comparison. even the people who are vehemently anti-racist inadvertently act racist as fuck by lumping all black people together as a group that needs affirmative action and other measures to be equal to everyone else. european governments would try to fix wealth inequality among races by focusing on wealth inequality in itself, but the american way of approaching the problem is to look at race first.
Hunter Taylor
God, that north atlantid woman is a cutie.
Julian Foster
The skin color and sex of your character are the least of those publisher's problems. I care more about the game being shit or riddled with MTX than the whether or someone wants more diversity in gaming.
Logan Mitchell
than the whether or not someone wants more diversity in gaming.
Grayson White
This post is so fucking based it's glowing. Brainlets will never understand half the shit you're saying here. Their tiny ant brains won't even register it propely. Good fucking post, best post i've read here in at least 3 years.