Games are the most literally conservative art medium on Earth

>use games to push an overly left angeda
>get confused when centre-left fags like me end up teetering towards centre-right instead

>video games
>art
Stopped reading there.

>character can only be gay as long as i don't have to deal with his gayness
congrats on missing the entire point
>they are made in such way that being gay is literally their only fucking character trait.
this doesnt happen though, just because their gayness is put in the spotlight doesnt mean everything else doesnt exist

But...but....Ellie is the first gay character ever. - Naughty Dog (probably)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_with_LGBT_characters

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JUST GIVE ME MORE TWITTER SCREENCAP THREADS! MORE, MORE, ONE AFTER ANOTHER, DON'T EVER STOP POSTING LITERAL WHO'S OPINIONS ON ASININE TOPICS!

Yeah, I've been finding myself thinking that a lot over the past two years. I'm not sure if it's a natural side effect of getting older, or if preachy and screechy left wing media is turning me off from left wing values.

Why do I have to deal with other peoples homosexuality?

The latter for me. I don't even agree with the right, I used to be a very liberal person until 2012 and everything after that happened.

This. Their degenerate "lifestyle" deserves nothing but mockery and scorn.

Sure some people complain about that and they’re right to. But a lot of the time especially these days, people bitch about anything other that hetero white man and you fucking know it.

>congrats on missing the entire point
Then I skip out on the game then, the gays can buy it. But probably won't considering Obsidian's gay simulator almost sunk the company.

Why is the alt right too stupid to make their own videogames?

God, lolis are so hot

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Who's the first niggers who had a collective meltdown as soon a game has titties?

>Make a character a flamer
>You now have a zealous section of your fanbase that will rabidly defend your game no matter how dogshit it is

Hook, line and sinker.

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You are the one missing the point. There are gay characters in games that dont show their orientation down your throat, idiots instead absolutely must show everyone that they like fucking assholes. I don't fucking care, if that's the only thing you can say about yourself, you are pathetic wannabe snowflake and get the fuck out.

>games should have politics in them!
>WAIT NO, not THAT kind of politics!

Yea Forums complains about perverts like gays and trannies, but are super easily led around by their cock and a lot of them are lolicons/pedophiles

a big amount of them are sexually more degenerate than sjws

Most games have terrible romances with very few exceptions.
So a serious game having romances is alredy bad news for me. Therefore I don't care about some character's sexuality.
What difference would it make if Rikimaru from Tenchu was gay? It was a game about ninjas and all I cared about was that part of the story. If they gave me some lame romantic backstory I would be upset wether it was with Ayame or Tatsumaru.

So being able to ignore those things (the romance overall, and that includes gayness) is a good call. I think ME had homosexual options as long as you made the advances and that's, in my opinion, the right choice. Other games shove it in your face and then you're given the choice to decline or skip at best.

SEETHING trannies

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Probably because lefty terrorists would murder them if they ever tried? I'm still waiting for ResetEra's users to be arrested for stalking and threatening to murder the parents of Cdprojektred's community manager. But they are on the "right side of history" so anything short of murder itself they are above the law, I guess.

It's just a natural reaction to people screaming in your face saying you have the wrong opinion and that you need go accept their bullshit or else. Same thing happened back in the 90s and early 2000s with your typical Bible bashers and think of the children retards preaching to you.

Yeah, leftists are weird.

>more political shitflinging
when will this end

Rouge and Vanilla are getting married.
What are your thoughts on it?

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Bless as109

99% of the populace doesn't give a shit if someone is gay, what pisses people off is the faggots have to be so fucking obnoxious about it like this retard and the degenerates with their faggy pride parades.

SJWs and trannies can make their own games, yes that include TLOU if that's what the dev want. I just hate how they censor the other games that they perceive as "sexist".
Fuck you sony.

this dude is living under a rock, people complain about these things in other mediums too

>push a conservative agenda in video games
>WTF why are video games so conservative suddenly?!
I hate SJWs

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>WOW THE DIVISION 2 IS LITERALLY NAZI PROPAGANDA BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT ISN'T EVIL

>tranny shit in Baldurs Gate

Still peeved. A world where you can change your gender by magical means shouldnt have this issue.

>twitter screencap politics post that's only tangentially video game related
I guess it let's some angry people let out steam at "SJW"s but it's at the expense of what little quality this board has.

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T. Tranny

Nobody gives a shit about your Twitter opinion, stop posting it here

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if you like softcore or erotic vns or anything that makes a conscious appeal to horny people, you cant make this point. characters in those games are designed all over to constantly signal how sexual they are and that theyre totally ready to go down whenever.

Wanted to quote

Link the full comic you coward.

gays are a irrelevant minority, im not sure why do i need to be reminded they exist. are fags that deseperate for social acceptation?

>video games
>art

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More of a Rouge Amy man myself

>a character xant be homosexual without it being front and center at all times
I think you missed the point faggot, gays in games now come off as the Duke Nukem of gayness. They can't shut the fuck up about it the same way Duke can't shut the fuck up about how much he likes tittes

Wait, is there actually a full comic of it?
I thought it was just a joke cover

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Nobody minds if a character is "diverse". Diverse characters have always been there. For fucks sake the entire industry was rebooted after a crash by a FAT ITALIAN plumber.

It's how stupidly liberal creators fetishize this shit that bothers people. Like donuts? Image if everyone went to see Avengers Endgame and 80% of the movie was the characters arguing over which donuts they like best instead of, oh I don't know, Thanos!? People would be livid. But it must be because they hate actually donuts am I right?

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Video games are poorly written trash. I realised this rewatching some old cut scenes from Mass Effect 3 but suspected this for much longer.

Watch this shit now that the novelty was worn off. And people are complaining about the writing in Game of Thrones? This shit is TERRIBLE.
youtube.com/watch?v=wVR1g9KXMNk

"Shopping for another house?"
"Beach front property."
"Claim it fast - it's a buyer's market."

CRIIIIIIIINGE. Also why doesn't Tali try to stop Legion outside of going "no, Shepard, nooo"

>are fags that deseperate attention?
FTFY
Also yes.

>Italians
>diverse

You really are an idiot.

>Becomes paraplegic because he wanted to have a nice stroll on the middle of a bombing.

>twitter

it is time

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(especially you lol pathetic)
Poor little oppressed snowflakes
Just do the same thing every gay does and don't play these games, except you will because lesbians are marketed towards straight men, not gays who are as interested by a lesbian relationship as they would be by two slugs fucking

>twitter screencap
>politics baiting
Award for most Reddit thread of the day goes to-

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Seething tranny nigger

This is the shit I cannot fucking stand. They act as if we need to be accepting of games having political statements, and then immediately screech and shit all over any games that have politics they don't agree with

>I don't have a problem with gays it's just that I FUCKING HATE IT WHEN VIDEO GAME CHARACTERS ARE FAGS BECAUSE IT'S SJW PANDERING
I find it hard to believe these people are genuine.

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Games are not art

Ah I forgot, Italians and Mexicans aren't minorities unless it's politically advantageous for the left at that moment.

Heh, gaming journalism is full of that.
>Female units or leaders over represented in medieval or war games = "lol games don't have to be historically accurate".
>Female character has hot body = "lol has the designer even saw a real woman ever! This is outrageous!"

Yeah I hate it when liberals make threads that clog up Yea Forums with Twitter screencap political bullshit. Oh wait

I bet there would even be retards defending that. RESPECT THE ARTIST'S VISION !

But yeah that's pretty much the logic they use.

I feel that most people are annoyed by things being obnoxious, and feeling that stuff gets unfair recognition. Like, if book or movie came out with terrible story with only ham-fisted representation being its only merit, it would absolutely be blasted or simply ignored.
But when videogame does the same thing critics are like OOOH WOOO. Despite what journos and devs might think, most people who play games do not exclusively play games, and they are exposed to better writing in other mediums, so when something gets praised to high heavens despite not being amazing, it's gonna raise some eyebrows.

>proceeds to insert their propaganda in established franchises like they did with comics and movies

>create a character
>give the character a sexual fetish
>make it so that his/her entire personality revolves around said fetish
>constantly shove the fetish into the players' faces lest they forget it
>"You fucking bigots my character is totally normal why don't you accept it?"
It's a mystery

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You still haven't answered my question. Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn were considered victims of Twitter threats. How come an innocent elderly couple that ResetEra threatened to murder was ignored by the law? A bunch of ResetEra users even found where they live and contacted them and told them on how they plan on killing them because "their son is anti-trans rights". How come no law enforcement dared to make an arrest?

When The Walking Dead game was first released, I didn't care that the main characters were black (Lee & Clementine). I didn't even care that Kenny had some comments that made him look a bit like a redneck idiot. They were just characters trapped in a cataclysm and I had no reason to suspect that there was anything behind it. If the game was released today, we'd have an influx of articles on "BLACKS SAVE THE WORLD", articles attacking Kenny, the TWD marketing team making allusions to feminism and BLM, etc. and both Lee and Clementine would be making comments related to identity politics. Do you see the difference?

he's not wrong

bayonetta

I on the other hand do have a problem with gays because they have a problem with my religion (which has a problem with them). Additionally they'll insist that being gay isn't a fetish when it's been near definitively proven that gays develop homo tendencies in their formative years due to stimuli. Gays also have a statistically higher chance of abusing children and the ones that adopt children are a menace

Only the ones in denial trying to look good. I fucking hate gays and trannies and refuse to buy games with them in it.

I don't give a shit this isn't /pol/ you poor little oppressed snowflake who's scared for his life if he makes a video game (lol) this is fucking Yea Forums fuck off already

>how to market the game
how about showing off how fun the gameplay is? The story alone shouldn't dictate the quality of the game unlike what Naughty Dog thinks.
>be progressive
>people push back against your ideology
>wo-woah what the fuck!
isn't the whole point of being progressive dealing with change? I mean, shit, gays only got the right to marry nationwide like 10 years ago, right? Why are they surprised that many people are still against that and don't want to promote it?
I don't mind seeing political stuff if it has tact and treats the subject material like it's more than a fad or a trend. A game like Metal Gear Solid or even GTA has a ton of progressive political commentary yet those games are widely respected in the gaming community because of the writing and the gameplay. making a shit boring game with a progressive story that's poorly written does nothing to help their cause. You see a game like Doom where actual legislation happened because of it's mere existence and people don't call it political, yet you see a game like TLoU that pretends to break new grounds by having shit writing, shit gameplay and shit characters be hailed as some kind of masterful political commentary.
I'm tired of it.
Just make good games. Like with film, people will vibe with your ideas more if the movie isn't shit. It's basic psychology.

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>refuses to act like a normal human being
>acts like the kind of promiscuous faggot you see in gay parades
>why does everyone hate me :(((((((((

Give me one good reason that Gays shouldn't be gassed?

>Additionally they'll insist that being gay isn't a fetish when it's been near definitively proven that gays develop homo tendencies in their formative years due to stimuli.
Homosexuality is actually phenotypical, I think you were mistakenly thinking of transexuality there.

>gays develop homo tendencies in their formative years due to stimuli.
So do straight people. Everyone is born bi by default, any deviation from that default is from culture and education.

I appreciate you being honest/consistent at least.

Imagine a character, right, some normal guy, straight, average looking etc.

All he does is talk about sex, about how much he loves girls, about how much he loves to have sex with girls, about how girls turn him on, his past experiences with girls, his previous relationships and their baggage, and that's ALL they ever fucking talk about. The world is ending around him, chaos and suffering, people dying, and here he is, talking about Janice and how much she hurt him.

Yea, we need more of those in video games, just replace "girl" with guy and he's perfect, no problems, and anyone that complains is a bigot!

The left just needs to keep their bitches in line. The extremists need the moderates, not the other way around.

Fucking kek, sounds about right you antifa fuck.
>murder is fine as long as it's on the right side of history, I hope that elderly couple gets killed by my leftnazi friends because their son said something wrong to my precious trannies

Keanu Reeves' Constantine?

Plenty of characters are like that and there are no twitter screencaps about it on FUCKING Yea Forums

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Yea Forums will be empty.

>people hate disgusting western faggotry
wow really made me think

Name one. Just one, I fucking dare you.

>A gay character causes a collective meltdown
If used for propaganda and brownie points, shut the fuck up.

Also you're not suppose to show the RTs and likes, you're meant to show an illusion that the nigga there is actually relevant.

FUCK OFF BACK TO /pol/ YOU SNOWFLAKE PIECE OF SHIT RIGHT-SJW

I recently came across a book where a 3-year-old girl fellates a man until he fills her mouth with cum. There's nothing wrong with video games staying conservative.

I disregard the opinion of anyone who unironically uses the term "Gamers".

>If the game was released today, we'd have an influx of articles on "BLACKS SAVE THE WORLD", articles attacking Kenny, the TWD marketing team making allusions to feminism and BLM, etc. and both Lee and Clementine would be making comments related to identity politics
Probably in response to GG which is when this board took a turn for the worse.

vidya has a hugely conservative fanbase but teh people making games are 99% full on twirly moustache, art school faggots with rainbow colored hair.

Kill yourself

Give me one example of a well-received character that is like this buddy.

You're talking out of your ass, about things you know aren't true, all because you're desperately wishing it was.

can you tell me the title so I can avoid reading it?

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Sauce?

>not caring about literal who opinions from Twitter makes you a tranny

Never actually been there before. You are free to go there though.

Do bear in mind that I'm not attempting to dehumanize gays in such a way that they wouldn't be afforded the basic human courtesy that I would afford anyone else as a default, it's just that I have my biases when it comes to ideologies and statistics.

Fuck off back to pol

Leisure Suit Larry

The worst part about the whole LMAO HOMOS in The Last of Us 2 was that Bill from the first game was actually a gay character done right.

Games had fags before these current hyper sensitive fags were born and generally no one cared.
The entirety of their character was not the orifices and what they like in them though.

Strap in boys. It's another twitter screencap thread

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>vidya has a hugely conservative fanbase
You're basing this on what, posts on Yea Forums?

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Based on the fact that the tranny faggots who should be castrated and hung who make video games constantly push their trash political views and are always told to fuck off by the gamer base.
How about that you weak balding freak?

I feel like that's different because the entire game (including gameplay) revolves around his sexuality.

These ridiculous articles aren't the work of normal people pushed into it. They're the work of charlatans and faggots, a mix of shrill true believers who only care about politics and shameless hucksters who'd push their grandma down the stairs to make an article about it and reap those sweet sweet views.

"The Great Eastern" by Andreas Embirikos
it never got translated, sorry

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>game everyone said had terrible writing the day it came out
>only other point of reference is Game of Trainwrecks
Imagine being this much of a zoomer holy shit

Yeah your enraged Yea Forums posts are sure showing those SJW devs what for! Lol get over yourself, holy shit.

But games are not art so...

Have sex lmao

Generally the jap games are using it for flavour and it adds to the characters but western games it just feels shoehorned.

Well I don't disagree with you on those points.

Wow great job proving me wrong tranny scum. How does it feel knowing your kind are reviled and murdered daily for being freaks?
Literally fucking your mom right now.

AAAAX
AAAAX
AAAAX

>Pictures are art
>Models are art
>Music is art
>Writing is art
>Put them all together and it couldn't possibly be art anymore!
Imagine being this retarded though? Jeesh.

Where are the video games?

imagine if mario 64 was just 20 hours of mario getting his ass blown out by luigi. and it was all cutscenes, you couldn't even control mario getting his ass pounded.

miyamoto: mama mia, why no one rike my game??

>"Aaach!... Aaach!... Einai.... einai paradeisos... Oooch!... Oooch!... Aaach!... Aaach!... Aaaaa!... Aaaaa!... AAAACH!... AAAACH!... CHINO!... CHINO!..."

the entire industry and every gaming fanbase with the exception of this website sucks classic bioware's cheese dick.

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Funny since gaming in the end is most diverse medium compared to film and tv, which is heavily dominated by burgerland products. I will probably never read Turkish literature or watch Finnish movie, but here I am playing mount&blade and Max Payne.

Look at this chart, liberal isn’t the same as left. Extremely left would be a game about the working class’s struggle over the capitalists, a game where you would play through a Bolshevik revolution.

I may also have liberal-social values but don’t mix them up.

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Faggotry is not just "two people who love eachother", it's the tip of the iceberg of a cesspool of degeneracy, disease, suicide and recruitment (aka child drag queens, child transitioning, pedophilia).

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>imagine if mario 64 was just 20 hours of mario getting his ass blown out by luigi
oo yeah tell me more

Twitter is Yea Forums culture, you tranny newfag

>being muslim

1) it’s a loli in the poster
God lesbian pedophilia is so hot

>he's not an antifa tranny?
>definitely from /pol/ then, we all know Yea Forumssetera is the most progressive place on the internet

yes, he's blowing his load there

Too bad AIDS medicine got so effective. It was awesome seeing all those fags dying in the 80s

Why si this dude like the most big mouthed naughty dog dev when all he does is lighting effects

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Only a sith deals in absolutes.

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Nothing meaningful was ever expressed through gameplay. Game are never the right medium to tell something.

That seems like a good compromise. Have them in game, in a negative way. Have the main character make spit on them, then we can have a press S to spit. What games have press S to spit?

>Nothing meaningful was ever expressed through gameplay. Game are never the right medium to tell something.
look at this moron and weep

lol no one can argue with your point, they have to keep going to the most extreme examples to be be even vaguely right
this is why you don't need to bother arguing, they have to dress up their bigotry in vague "genuine criticism" otherwise they know people will just tell them to stop being bigoted and fuck off.
You have to be going out of your way to genuinely think every gay character in media just goes around sounding off about how gay they are, the disconnect between how they see it and what actually happens is just too large to be a genuine mistake.
This is some "round up is perfectly safe to drink" tier lying.

Any Christian should be against fags. Hell, the German pagans were against fags and the ones that brought that feeling into Christianity to begin with.

Epic and nerd pilled! Upvoted!!

That Division 2 controversy was so weird. People were upset that some developer said it wasn't political?

>Polotics
>Relevant to the board topic
Also holy shit, all that autism that went into one simple bait image, only on Yea Forums

This looks shopped.

So, what you are saying is, Christianity was not originally homophobic?

You sick fuck why did you cum across it?

yaaas
anyone who supports hate is probably a deatheater anyways :3

Not being political is a right-wing tool.

Didn't you finish reading that sentence? The topic was super sexy.

Fuck leftist propaganda in games. I will never buy some boring "woke" lesbo simulator.

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It was also a great indicator of faggots
>"no no no I'm not gay"
>dies of AIDS

Nah, that would be an absolute again. I wish people would stop trying to divide the world into two camps, because that is just fucking retarded.

>When those half-brain retards will find out that players dont get annoyed by gay characters because they are gay but because they are made in such way that being gay is literally their only fucking character trait.

But OP is literally an example of that, why do you not think these people not exist?

i prefer the term homo-realist

I think faggots should be publicly executed.

>A book written in 1940 where a straight man fucks the mouth of a 3 year old is why we should oppose gays

okay lol

would you stop being a racist for one post and just listen? it's called not being a garbage human being

The rational right wing everyone, good job
I think you deserve a free milkshake :)

Facts and logic pilled my good sir! *Tips fedora in your general direction*

Yassss queen slay

Having political propaganda or 2019 american coastal city "values" in your game doesn't make it art, just like the absence of these things doesn't make the game not art.

These people are fucking retards

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Real life gay people are mentally disturbed disease vectors with upwards of 500 sexual partners

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But that would just mean acknowledging their existence, not making any ought statement about them.

don't women in general end up with a lot of sexual partners these days?
do you hate women too?

It's been like what 3 fucking years? No gameplay. No infected. But the alleged main character in her debut trailer stands awkwardly in a corner until the popular girl takes pity on her. Then she manhandles a bunch of dudes while crying. Game of the year. Are you sure you don't want it?

>Hell, the German pagans were against fags and the ones that brought that feeling into Christianity to begin with.
>German Pagans wrote the Book of Romans
Neat. Learn something new every day, I guess.

conservatism and progressivism aren't bound to time periods
millennials and zoomers are probably more conservative than degenerate boomers from the 70's

>do you hate women too?
What do you think?

It had a president that wasn't drumf and said that freedom is good, both things go against the popular agenda right now.

Saved.

here's your art bro

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Have sex.

they were caving in to retards who wouldn't buy their game anyway
sounds familiar right?

I have a problem with gays tho

why do all Americans do this???

Cyberpunk 2077 lookin hella lit bros

Call of Duty is literal textbook military propaganda. Why wont you complain about it?

I hate you all. Shut the fuck up and keep your gay shit in private where it belongs. That goes for the rest of your mentally ill butt buddies.

Nuke America

>I have to insert my faggotry into every facet of society and then wonder why people want to toss me off a roof

Because I’m not a sodomite faggot

so much this

>Americans

>it's just that I FUCKING HATE IT WHEN VIDEO GAME CHARACTERS ARE FAGS BECAUSE IT'S SJW PANDERING
Faggots are like 1% of the population It is pandering

typical white people shit

>Americans
>White

The fuck are these sources? Randomly skimming through some of them, they don't really seem to actively support or not support any of those claims, they just cite a book you can buy on Amazon that may (or may not?) support those claims. Give me some hard facts, not this stepping around the bush bullshit.

No. They get annoyed by them because they're gay.
If a character is gay and you never see anything with it, then they aren't gay.
You would never bitch when straight characters never shut the fuck up about wanting to fuck x.

>muh black
>muh white
fuck off you dumb american nigger.
there is more cultural diversity between the states of europe than between all of your mongrel races.

okay, amerimutts*
happy?

>consenting adults having sex bad
>killing people good
Enjoy your war with iran, faggot

Did you know Ultima had homosexuality in it back in the 80s but EA--yeah, THAT ea, the one who is too terrified of shutting down lgbtp+ware these days--demanded Lord British knock that shit off? Gays, discordtrannies and californian commies don't!

yeah she still has some white in her no matter what

Why is he so obsessed with being liked by literally everyone but publishers of literature catered for gays don't criticize me for not being interested in it?

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I revile politics and tend to flip flop a ton from right to left, but both sides have their insufferable faggots

>all these closeted fags pretending I can't see through their homophobia
Just accept you want cock

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>to demographics that don't touch vidya
Lmao are you new to Yea Forums? This is the gayest board, more than /lgtb/

Yes, I do. But my argument still stands.

It's true, I 90% sure most Yea Forumstards unironically want to or have sucked a dick. Anything except playing vidya.

Making a game, should I add a fag? Just tucked in the corner somewhere, will it give me a rabid fanbase?

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>call of duty
>literal military propaganda with military funding behind
Not politics
>trailer of tlou2
>woman kiss another woman in the mouth
Politics

Christ, I never realized Yea Forums was so full of oversensitive /pol/tards. Grow a pair

It might attract some fujos if that's what you are talking about

>not sucking your bro off as he plays
Casual

This but unironically

That's why I don't buy either.

>Enjoy your war with iran
haha ok I will faggot enabler

Make everyone gay.

Can I make a futa character like this

>conservative now means not gay
I guess I'm conservative now lads

yes this is clearly the board where people play call of duty you dumb fucking tranny

>tranny saying to grow a pair
Okay now that’s ironic

F

What if I make everyone female(futa) and female(male)

I think he should be truly brave and make them all gay AND muslim.

This.

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Shitting dick nipples in video game form is the only true way to success, user.

>people that hate gays are closet gays
>but liberals aren't closet alt-right
>and nazi-haters aren't closet nazis
Sounds like double standards to me.

>Call of Duty is literal textbook military propaganda. Why wont you complain about it?
Did you miss all the threads complaining about it, retard?

That would be ballsy. Do it.

>that deep yellow
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Yes but then 3 months later release a patch where the character is ungayed. Devilish

Stop being trashy you piece of waste.

So they are going to be playing TLoU2, is what you're saying?

Yeah, because they are buried by the threads and threads of people complaining about homo people

Black muslim
Every single lackey is white.
Bosses are coons that will open their eyes after you defeat them

>Twitter is Yea Forums culture

That wasn't always true. I remember back around 2012, Yea Forums culture was stuff like 4 AM threads, Jimmies, Ace of Spades,, etc.

Wouldn't the be locked in an eternal struggle, trying to throw each other of roofs?

did you catch some brain virus from eating out tranny asses

Show me one.

I don't want homosexual men in my entertainment. I don't really want lesbian women either. From now on, only straight men and women and bisexual women should be allowed in videogames.

You're confusing cause with effect.

>Between 24% and 90%
That really narrows it down

Man if you're leading with that I'm not even bothering with the rest

Fuck off boomer.
Grinman is not Yea Forums culture.
Playing deus ex is not Yea Forums culture.
Not being a bigot is part of Yea Forums culture.
You are on the wrong side of history and you will be forgotten.

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after 5 years of utter obnoxiousness, I simply refuse faggots. if you all weren't such cunts I would have tolerated it.

If you consider "logic" a brain virus because applying logic to your statement was literally all it took.

I wonder if that would work
Make a terrible, derivitive rpg maker game with low effort pixel graphics but the main characters are a gay muslim woman, a black transgirl, a gay man, and a blue haired polydemisupersexual feminist and the plot is all about fighting oppression and there are "deep metaphors" throughout, the plot is a nonsense mess that people will speculate and theorize about endlessly, and the final boss is basically just trump

Would they eat it up? Is this the formula for the next cult classic indie rpg?

>if you hate something you must want to fuck it
can you retards drop this dumb argument already? it makes our side look like dip shits

Whenever I ask conservatives why they hate gays they always inevitably say "well they're promiscuous"
Only sad virgins care about promiscuity, let people live their lives
>oh but gay people make up most of the child predators
Wrong, straight people are the vast vasr majority of child molestors, stop taking /pol/ graphs as fact because most of them are totally made up

>people despise fags more than war
Big think

Why is there a difference when you "suspect there's something behind it"? Like, what is the ultimate worst case scenario here?

It would be beautiful.

t. child raping tranny sodomite

Holy fucking based

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Imagine if at the start of Legend of Zelda Link gets out of bed and says
>god I'm so attracted to Zelda. I could really put my penis inside Zelda
And when you finally save her Link says
>Damn I can't wait to have consensual sex with you
That's what gay characters always play out as.
>Hello there, looking hot person of the same sex
>Mhmm, can't wait to take this hot member of the same sex to bed
>Eww members of the opposite sex! Time to be bitchy/snarky!
Then they try to accomodate to people like and put the same gay in a position of power.
>I'm multi-dimensional because not only am I gay, but I'm also a king/commander/ace! Wow so deep!
Gay is a sexual orientation in the same way straight is. It should only come up during intimate parts and with a loved one. But western need to establish a character's faggotry so it always turns into a topic of discussion making the character little more than a sexually depraved degenerate.

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Kill yourself

>yes this is clearly the board where people play call of duty

These days I've been seeing a lot of CoD nostalgia threads. I guess we're at the point now that people that grew up playing CoD are now posting on here.

Jesus christ user, stop posting underage porn like that. For the love of god, that boy is 15. That 24 year old woman is a pedophile.

Okay but EA coming around on it doesn't mean you also have to come around on it. There are still plenty good reasons to hate EA.

>straight people are the vast vasr majority of child molestors
There goes another coping tranny with 0 idea of how statistics work.

>this article has multiple issues
It seriously fucking does, holy shit. All those "citation needed" throughout the entire 'article' and half a dozen interpretations of characters without any clear indications.

Don't forget Halo nostalgia.

The only thing you're demonstrating to us here is how weirdly obsessed you are with homosexuality that the slightest mention of it is magnified in your head into this nonsensical farce of your own creation.

Go back to cunnyposting, you pathetic incel

We pay no gay

>go back to being based
Gottem

What fetishes would work as gane mechanics?
>BE mana milk tanks

Cope

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>Rest of the party constantly shits on feminist because of her white privilege

Reminds me of that feminist parody website that closed down because they couldn't out clown them.

Oh no a pic with not source probably written in commiefornia.

MODS

>1999
>the last year of available statistics
>they stopped tracking it for "some reason"
OH NO NO NO NO NO WHY HAVEN'T THEY TRACKED IT FOR 20 YEARS NOW

>People who use a car have statistically higher chance of dying from a car accident
HOLY SHIT STOP THE PRESSE!!

boon is a qt

That's ironic coming from these people

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Besides renaissance paintings, what does conservative art look like?

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Where the fuck you do you guys find this shit
I swear this is something I only ever see on the internet while in real life people call the cops on flashers and start screaming and throwing punches if two guys hold hands too long.

>hurr cod did it
>nobody plays cod here
>then you will play lou2
this is logic to your fucked brain. you're below 50 IQ.

Why the fuck are you shitting up this board with Literally Whos?

Cope
jaapl.org/content/42/4/404

It doesn't look like renaissance paintings. They don't get to claim shit just because it's old. The art actually produced by conservatives today is mostly lifeless boring rubbish with ham-handed political signalling.

Nah, I just hate them and don't want them in my games

You forgot to post about vaccines causing autism

Chris Nolan is deep end conservative

What now faggot

it IS pandering, since they're a much smaller minority than twitter makes you think. Nostalgia remakes count as pandering too, even if to a different demographic. But if pandering vidya to gays doesn't profit why bother? Why should a souless corporation spend millions on you specifically? Blows my mind.

>Checkmarks are important
Every single non-corporate entity that isn't an A-list superstar or a renowned figure in science/technology got that checkmark via nepotism. They know someone specifically working at Twitter.

>OBSESSED
grow up

>BE
Got you coverd senpai

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HOLY SHIT is this shitty thread still going??
How many lewd pic should I post again before it gets deleted?

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>cope
Yes you are

A lot of art is full of politically signalling if you want to look at it that way.

>implying there isnt more rich cultural diversity in just a few latin american countries than your entire whitoid continent
>countries with a more vibrant gastro culture too
half the countries in europe are just samey blobs of pale skinned imperialist devils who speak english 99% and and eating shitty unseasoned food. There are only 3 european countries that matter to the planet

Okay, user, I will walk you through the step because you clearly aren't able to identify them yourself.
This post identifies the juxtaposition between an overly political game, call of duty, that goes unremarked upon by Yea Forums, to another game which just happens to feature a lesbian which is constantly bitched about by Yea Forums. Then you (or someone as logically impaired as you), implied that this discrepancy was caused by Yea Forums's lack of interest in playing CoD, here . That would suggest that Yea Forums only complains about games it is interested in playing. The logical conclusion, then, as I pointed out, is that Yea Forums is very much interested in playing TLoU2.

Faggot here. Modern gays in vidya are cancer and I want them to stay away in videogames. You can tell when it's just blatant pandering and their personality devolves into "WAHH WAHH IM A FAGGOT I EAT COCK". And there's nothing more annoying. Maybe it's because I like decently written characters and don't give in to corporate california. Regardless, pic related is a fag character with SOUL. Mostly because it isn't shoved down your throat. It's only good when the japs make games.

In the end? FUCK gay pride parades. FUCK California. And FUCK polygamy. Wholesome video game life is the way to go.

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You're really pathetic.

How do these people honestly function in life and get hired into these positions? They are all absolute retards that no next to nothing about narrative structure.

>That would suggest that Yea Forums only complains about games it is interested in playing.
no, retard

That the traits of the character are not the vision of the author, but rather, picked with propaganda-pushing purposes.

the joke here is that its the latin american countries that are all the same shit

I don't see anyone complaining about military propaganda. Couple of people got triggered by the black woman, I guess.

You could have just said you were a gay ass faggot tranny

Oh look another straight white man has an opinion. YAAAWN

>no u
lmao

gamers deserve death

based anti-fag fagposter

It does. Of course, it's wrong, but then, that's on you, because you said it. You see, you should have realised that when I took your argument to its logical conclusion, instead of blaming me for applying logic to it.

I unironically think fags are ridiculously annoying people, and don't want to see them in my games, vidya is not meant to be some fag's social justice weapon.

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There is actually zero difference between those two things, not behind the scenes, and certainly not in the final product. There is no magical "author's vision" free of politics that is somehow tainted when the author gets a political idea in his head. It's all part of the creative process, and if it results in a black trans lesbian either way, how would you even tell the difference?

Bluepilled but also based

Vidya can be whatever the developers want it to be, so in practice, looks like you're wrong, actually.

>how would you even tell the difference?
Oh you just KNOW. It all comes together and you just KNOW

Hold the fuck up, it has actual BE?

Dragon Age Inquisition. Dorian was a gay character written by a gay guy with no real political agenda, just wanting to tell a story. Iron Bull was literally just memes and identity politics written by a straight guy trying to tick as many boxes as he could on the woke checklist.

SEETHING incels

Yep.

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That's not fair, since this is Yea Forums 2.0, /lgbt/ fags keep shitting up the board as much as Yea Forums, Yea Forums, /vg/, /ic/, /jp/, Yea Forums, Yea Forums, /r9k/ and /d/. Its just that faggots are more vocal about it.

Same thing happened when Far Cry 5 turned out to not actually be about an alt-right christian cult but was more inspired by the Waco incident.

We all know Naughty Dog staff and cast are seething about the election. They do this so they can scream bigot, nazi, homophobe, etc over and over again and have their brainwashed fans agree with them and tell them how great they are.

How does it happen? Is it like mana tanks as the first user asked?

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Can it be about purging the gays?

And yet Dorian was the target of most of Yea Forums's ire. Could you use specific examples to demonstrate your point?

There are definitely differences. If one of the main traits of a character is something related to identity politics, then that's definitely noticeable. You could write a character that is gay, but that doesn't define the character and the game doesn't throw it in your face and that's totally fine. I used the original example of Clementine & Lee and how it'd be presented for clear propaganda purposes. They are free to do this with their game, don't get me wrong, but I'll criticize it and resist it (and not buy it).

Ah yes, "we all know", so that means you can assume anything you want. Certainly the problem isn't that you're a bigot, either.

Can someone give me "go woke go broke" examples? It's 9AM and I need a good laugh to wake myself up for work.

>And yet Dorian was the target of most of Yea Forums's ire.
You what

>tfw all the old gay dudes my parents are friends with are the coolest, nicest guys I know
>all the 30 year old faggots my age I have to deal with IRL are the most obnoxious pieces of shit ever
Why are old gay dudes so chill? They really are the friendliest people I know.

I actually don't know, I don't have any of the consoles it's on.

The game hasnt come out so you have no way of knowing that lezzie out will be the center of thr game.

Plus i genuinely do not care. Just wack off while the gay shit is happening.

Eh I was more Yea Forums then Yea Forums when DA:I came out, but it's hard to believe this was the case when Dorian was a cool dude and Iron Bull was teaching you how to use safewords and how to treat his trans teammate.

>And yet Dorian was the target of most of Yea Forums's ire
Nigger we were laughing at Dorian's stupid mustache.

HAT KID SAYS TRANS PRIDE!

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>bigot

You aren't defending company that smoked Amy out so they could replace her with one of chosen people, are you?

>being bigoted against the bigoted
wow bigoted much lmfaosmh

>And yet Dorian was the target of most of Yea Forums's ire
That was Iron Bull though. Iron bull was the one going on about trannies and meme progressive words and gay shit. Dorian had a cool story campaign with the Mage story and was a fun guy that caused all sorts of problems for the more serious characters. He had a permanent spot on my team the whole of Inquisition.

>ranty little old ladies writing letters to the editor
Wouldn't those be the SJWs?

Excuse me, are you bigoted against that bigot? Sounds like we've got some bigotry going on here

>If one of the main traits of a character is something related to identity politics, then that's definitely noticeable.
Oh yeah, it's definitely noticeable, because you simply can't avoid it. Identity is at the heart of identity politics and you can't have a character without identity. If a character is black, you can't help but notice they're black. And I have seen Yea Forums complain about Clementine and Lee, actually. Especially when the second season switched focus to Clem. But I think its saving grace wasn't really a quality inherent to the writing but that it was released before Yea Forums became obsessed with identity politics, so for the most part it got grandfathered in. See also San Andreas and anything from Japan (because Japan, as everyone knows, is free of SJW influence so you can conclude a priori that any black person is there because it's the "artist's vision").

Too bad it's done so poorly.

Both sides are doing it desu

because gays are gay and bad for society

> (OP)
but user, Naughty Dog has decent gameplay in their games.

They did Amy dirty because she didn't fit in with their politics and she doesn't constantly complain about the evils male gamers or males in the industry.

You don't remember the fully gay shitposting?
>Implying Yea Forums waits until a game is released to start bitching about it.
Of course they wouldn't actually play it, I mean, the game's for fags.

Arcade from Fallout New Vegas was another good gay character. You could find out he was gay through dialogue but you only found out if you talked to him and did enough with him that the character would realistically be close enough to you to talk about stuff like sexuality.

I'm also gay and I hate that shit where gay characters just randomly blurt our how they're THE BIG GAY and that's basically their only fucking character trait, it pisses me off and it's fucking lazy character writing.

STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVEEEEEE

Okay but you're still not telling me anything other than "I like THIS but not THIS". Why is one of them a cool dude but the other pure identity politics? Does Dorian's questline not revolve around being gay and not accepted by his dad?

it's been three years and I still haven't seen any gameplay for The Last of Us part 2

I wish I had a dollar every time I read this boilerplate Yea Forums-approved opinion. Good on you being one of the "good gays" though, I'm sure Yea Forums will accept you now.

As if it'll have gameplay that's any different from TLoU1.

t.Tranny desu

I don't think you're getting my point. The fact that Lee and Clementine are black is minor. You obviously notice they are black, but if they hadn't been, the characters would have still been as loveable as they are. Being black is a small part of their identity, in contrast with their personality and development through the 5 episodes. Let's not forget that Lee is a murderer, a crime of passion, but a regretful killer after all. Why do you think Yea Forums became "obsessed" with it? It's nothing but a reaction to what is being pushed.

Did you turn off the video when they kissed or something

Or are you cheekily implying it was all scripted

Or just saying you're not interested

Or that it's a movie

The possibilities

That's his romance quest. Dorian also has a huge questline where he failed to save his friend and his friend's father abused red lyrium in an attempt to save his son, and Dorian needing help comes to you. Meanwhile Iron Bull spends the whole game being Gaider's walking fetish.

its clear that faggots only cause trouble.

Yes, it was all scripted nonsense.

These faggots always reply to their own tweets.

It's narcissism. I literally cannot understand why you would reply to your own tweet.

>all minorities should think like I do

Nice going , white savior.

No, I don't think you're getting my point. You say
>The fact that Lee and Clementine are black is minor.
But then the latest CoD trailer can have a black female soldier just be present and Yea Forums makes a big deal out of it. You say it's just a reaction to what's "being pushed" but what is being pushed? Nothing that wasn't already in TWD. It's Yea Forums's obsession about things "being pushed" that's the problem. We just can't have any deviation from the straight white male cis norm any more without Yea Forums assuming there's a hidden agenda. They'll bitch about being preached to but it's all projection, because it's entirely their own political obsessions that interfere with their ability to just take the damn characters as they are.

It really isn't hard to do a good gay character. Let me try.
>normal name
>normal looks, no tats/piercings/etc
>fits into environment
>you find out their orientation via background/secondary missable scenes (ie in a sci-fi setting maybe you're given an option of helping with maintenance work on their ship, giving you an option to flirt)
>game completely shuts down and friendzones character if you reject their advances
>character treats you solely as a good friend from that point on
>maybe even finds someone else in your stead, and you can catch them working on his ship in the background from that point on

Just spitballing, but it's honestly not that hard. I don't get why studios seem incapable of writing normal people these days. Even straight characters are written like godawful deviantart descriptions.

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"Revolving around" is a red herring. It's fine if a gay character's drama revolves around specifically gay experiences. That is not the issue.

Iron Bull's personality wasn't about being gay, it was about something else entirely that got drowned out by being mouthpiece for the progressive causes du jour: BDSM etiquette, anti-islamophobia, anti-racism, preaching about what lefties think communist societies look like, explaining about his trans friends and the fluid gender roles where he comes from.

Dorian is a character who is gay. Iron Bull is a "gay character".

Yet he's only making video games because he couldn't make it in Pedowood and the second another medium gains traction he'll be calling vidya a childrens toy.

>Meanwhile Iron Bull spends the whole game being Gaider's walking fetish.
I thought the whole problem was that he wasn't written by a gay man? Dorian was written by Gaider, though. But still no specific examples from you.

>videogames are the most literally conservative art medium on earth
>to change that I will make some homo movie game
those are the industry leaders we need.

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Your internalised homophobia is on display.

Gaider didn't write Iron Bull's quests. Patrick Weekes did. Gaider wrote Dorian.

>those are the industry leaders we need.
..to burn publicly

The controversy was over the dev swearing up and down that the game "wasn't political", despite the fact that It was, even if it's politics on an issue that's not in the current limelight. In fact, anything spawned by Tom Clancy's prompts in videogames was the most blatant form of politics in videogames pre-2015/2016.

Given that the insistence of "it's not political!" has become, in fact, a way to state it's actually political in a "we can all agree it's common sense that things are this way" sense...

That's not "the whole problem", just a giant red flag for woke signalling.

What are you talking about? I was saying that Dorian is a really likeable character with a good story arc while Iron Bull is a shallow character and an amalgamation of shitty fetishes.

So characters can revolve around one thing but not another? Isn't gay acceptance a progressive cause du jour?

Also, still need textual evidence.

He is right, numales and their faggotry is the new conservativism tho.

Honestly, I'm going to take it a step further and say gay characters shouldn't exist whatsoever in ANY game if there's a single SJW who did it, or if it's being done to cater to said SJWs in any way whatsoever. I don't care how subtle it's done, gay characters do not belong in games at all because their very existence in and of itself is in fact an agenda being pushed by SJWs. At least in relation to western game companies. I feel the same about black characters and I'm black as well. I don't hate my own race, but I absolutely loathe self-righteous SJWs and their constant accusations and whining.

It's a conditioned response because SJWs are fucking cancer & have used minorities as a weapon to push their identity politics. I'm black and yet whenever there's a black character in a game my natural reaction is to cringe at it because 9/10 said black person is there to cater to a bunch of SJWs.

I'm a black guy who was on the Obama train hard & voted for Sanders in the primary. Seeing the way SJWs fucked Sanders over & how cancerous they've become made me jump ship to the Trump train. For all I know Trump is in fact a fascist & the Nazis he empowers will kill me, but at least they'll kill all the other degenerate SJWs and Tranny faggots as well. I'll get to laugh at them in hell.

Fuck SJW identity politics, that's the bottom line.

Many posters who hate SJWs and faggots/Trannies being degenerates in public would probably be fine with being in a relationship with said persons. However, allowing faggots, trannies, and SJWs to do as they please will bring western civilization down to its knees. There's a good reason God burned Sodom & Gomorrah to the ground.

We need to keep these degenerates in their places, regardless of personal attractions.

Black guy here and I feel the exact same way about blacks in games. Again, don't hate myself or my race fuck loathe SJWs.

I'm talking about

I haven't even seen the trailer. In which time period is it set? In the US army, black women are what percentage? I think those two questions make sense to be asked to put in the situation in context. I do get your point, but I think you're missing the bigger picture. You're focusing on Yea Forums ignoring what's the current zeitgeist. So Yea Forums complains about a female black soldier in the trailer of COD, but if there weren't any black soldiers there, you'd have articles saying "where's X and Y"?. Before you go into "two sides of the same coin", who has more influence? Anons in here or bloggers/journalists publishing their articles in the mass media? The current zeitgeist is to push tokenism and diversity and many people resent and resist that, not just in Yea Forums. When you sacrifice good writing in order to appease the zeitgeist, everyone loses.

What do you even mean by textual evidence. Did you get lost on your way from Yea Forums? Do you want people to scrounge up a script of the game?

>It's a conditioned response because SJWs are fucking cancer & have used minorities as a weapon to push their identity politics.
No, user, that's what you're doing every day on Yea Forums. You let the reactionaries of this place poison your mind.
>I'm black and yet whenever there's a black character in a game my natural reaction is to cringe at it because 9/10 said black person is there to cater to a bunch of SJWs.
This is literally internalised racism. You claim you don't hate your race but you still got Yea Forums to convince you that having black people in games is bad for ill-defined reasons.

>internalised racism
lmaoooooooooooooooo

They meant that Division 2 wasn't political in preachy mormon sense. Of corse game revolving around spec-ops and white house is bound to have political elements in it's story.

>that wall of text
>waah waaah remove gays from games because SJWs
You are literally just as bad as SJWs.

Don't overthink shit. Retards want gays and muslims in games because it makes them feel good about themselves when they've just finished cheating on the significant other. That's all.
And we all hate it because it's gay and people get upset when you say that, which is fun.

There's your textual evidence bitch boy.
THE END

>posting ITT
You are literally just as bad as sjws

>Before you go into "two sides of the same coin", who has more influence?
Why the fuck does that matter? You're not supposed to be on the coin at all. Including minorities doesn't actually have to affect writing at all and given the standards of the industry the writing would probably be equally as shitty if everyone was a straight white man. And don't pretend that this is just a pushback against "tokenism" because that's just an excuse to shut down every example of minority representation. It's largely straight white men holding fictional characters to an unreasonable standard. Fuck's sake, you're literally SJWs.

But that's right though. Dorian was a fun and memorable character who trolled party members and talked about the Tevinter while Iron Bull was a checklist, every single bit of dialogue he had was about trannies or gays or progressiveness.

See, I think this is the most honest response I got so far.

>For all I know Trump is in fact a fascist
Nah, he's just an idiot. For all the "nazi" accusations people make, he's really just there to earn a quick buck and for attention. He enjoys being the news.

that was before the game actually came out, due to some shitty marketing that kept referring him to as "the first FULLY GAY character!" or some shit and that scared/pissed off a lot of people.

How he was in the game was fine actually, quite helpful in game as well.

Where are you people coming from? I don’t really care about this arguement. I’m just curious where you people are raiding from since no one who frequents Yea Forums would ever have this opinion

>Including minorities doesn't actually have to affect writing at all
That's true, but we're seeing the effects of 'trying too hard' on writing and how it makes it even worse. I'm willing to concede that many of the people against it are white straight Americans who want the main characters to be this way, but are you willing to concede that there's a serious push to have tokenism behind everything? Not just tokenism, look at MK11, where you have an official source saying that women are covered up because "no one goes fighting dressed like that (with little clothes)" while most men, via default or extra skin, are showing a lot of skin. This is not organic.

It's a known fact that not only reddit but pedoera posters frequent this board because being cancer in one place isn't enough for them.

But that's just not true.

>no one who frequents Yea Forums would ever have this opinion
At least one person does, bitch boy, sorry to disappoint.

I listen to what SJWs actually fucking say across social media and I live in CA and have to deal with these colored hair degenerates every single fucking day. And as I said, SJWs are the ones that have hijacked my race and many others for their own causes, and that's why I'm against blacks existing in games at all, at least western.

If it's an anti-SJW/redpilled type of Dev that has a black character in a game then I'd be OK with it because they wouldn't be pushing some bullshit SJW identity politics. Moving forward these are the only types of people who should be allowed to put minority groups in games. They should openly denounce SJW cancer and make it clear that's not what their inclusions of said minorities are about.

Good. SJWs have proved that crying loudly is very effective, so those of us against them simply have to drown out their voices and cry even harder. We have to be the snowflakes that cause a fucking blizzard. We're gonna freeze these degenerates to and shatter their wills.

Cringe

>some shitty marketing that kept referring him to as "the first FULLY GAY character!" or some shit
You mean one line in an interview where David Gaider talked about which characters he liked writing and how he drew upon his personal experiences? The one line that was then endlessly spammed on Yea Forums? I think that proves my point about the problem being mostly with Yea Forums's obsessiveness about the whole thing.

It's funny because Weekes also wrote Cole and Solas who were some of the best characters in the game, so he can write just fine if he's not going down checklists.

Furthermore, Solas had 0 reason to be gender-locked when he was already race-locked to elves, so Weekes is also a hypocrite who would only ever write token gay or trans characters to prove how woke he is.

I don't give a fuck about fags and trannies in games, just so long as Feminists with their genophobia and gymnophobia and the objectification meme take a hike down a building's roof. Feminists are the biggest retarded idiots who are puking the same shit Convervatives did 20-40 years back yet believe their bullshitting is somehow fresh or new.

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Someone needs to send him one *AHEM* to set him straight

>That's true, but we're seeing the effects of 'trying too hard' on writing and how it makes it even worse.
What can we compare it to? The alternate timeline where these games were released without minority characters? I think we're moving away from tokenism more towards genuine inclusion, actually.
>This is not organic.
How do you mean?

Two people even. I've been on Yea Forums for a few years, on Yea Forums in general for like 15 years now.

>And as I said, SJWs are the ones that have hijacked my race and many others for their own causes, and that's why I'm against blacks existing in games at all, at least western.
That is really fucking sad. Especially because, for ~some reason~, no one who is vocally anti-SJW appears to have any interest in having minorities in their games.

In all seriousness making Arcade gay was actually some brilliant writing. Like when you first add him to your fold, he's super cagey about his past and always changes the subject real quick and shit.

So as you travel with him more and open up more dialogue, you find out he's gay and it's like "Oh, maybe thats why he doesn't talk about friends/family much because he's still in the closet." But then you dig deeper and no it's because his Father was a high ranking Enclave member and was instrumental in them almost taking over the West Coast.

And then that lined got spammed hard by the Journos who turned it into a catch line for the whole game, and that's when the shit posting started.

I have become more and more right wing as well. The slippery slope argument is actually true. I wish i had realized that sooner.

>he can write just fine if he's not going down checklists
Have you considered that maybe it's not the writing that's the problem, but rather you seeing a "checklist" where there may not even be one? You're ascribing motives to the writer but factually the only real problem I can discern is that it bothers you when a character holds too many progressive opinions.

>I live in CA
That is your problem. CA is a bubble, 90% of the world is conservative as shit and gay people have to fear being beaten or worse if they come out publicly. And people who live in the real world and see you scream about how society is too progressive will call you out.

And that’s a good thing

>left libertarian

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I really don't remember it going down like that.

cool livejournal post you raging faggot

What do you even think the SJW "cause" is beyond having minority characters in their games?

That's fine too if anti-SJWs don't want minorities in games, I don't really give a shit. I simply despise SJWs and their constant whining and accusations. These people are fucking terrible individuals that need to lose as much influence across culture as much as possible in order for us to move forward as a society.

Then don't fucking come out publicly? Take it up the ass in private and enjoy your fucking life.

90% of the world is china and africa.
why dont you peddle your garbage there

Pillars of Eternity 1 and 2 is a good comparison. I find the 2nd game writing to be atrocious, trying too hard to show how inclusive they are. The 1st one didn't have this problem with the exception of some things about the villain. Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition is another one, you can see how botched the writing is because they tried too hard to be inclusive and 'cool'. The result is an aberration.
>How do you mean?
That it's a consequence of politics and pressure by certain groups that many companies have decided to go the same route. In example, reduce the sexuality of the female characters in fighting games, give a reason, but don't apply to the same standard to male characters. This is not random, this is not an organic vision by the author, especially if we consider that the showrunner behind MK has been the same for many years. I'm not saying that a person's vision can change, but the way it's done and the excuses just make it sound forced. I want to give again the example of MK11, where I think that past games had some ridiculous costumes for some female characters, but they did a 180º and gave a ridiculous response to it, something that is verifiable false.

Mmm. No. I'm one of the 3 people who actually liked the characters in Dragon Age II. I'm finishing Caligula Effect Overdose now and my favorite character is Sweet-P. So being progressive is definitely not the issue. Iron Bull was just badly written within the context of his game.

Silence anyone who doesn't agree with their agenda and demonize them to all of social media. Ruining their lives.

GO WOKE, GO BROKE.
>GAWKER MEDIA
BTFO AND LOSING ALL MONEY,
AIN'T WORTH SHIT,
NOBODY WANTS TO BUY IT,
IT'S SELLING UNDERVALUED,
THE SJW GARBAGE IS BEING FIRED
>UNIVISION COMMUNICATIONS WHICH BOUGHT GAWKER DOGSHIT
>Deadspin, Gizmodo/io9, Jalopnik, Jezebel, Kotaku, Lifehacker, Splinter
BTFO AND LOSING ALL MONEY,
AIN'T WORTH SHIT,
NOBODY WANTS TO BUY IT,
IT'S SELLING UNDERVALUED,
THE SJW GARBAGE IS BEING FIRED
>SALON MEDIA GROUP
>worth 1.5 Billion in 2006
BTFO AND LOSING ALL MONEY,
AIN'T WORTH SHIT,
NOBODY WANTS TO BUY IT,
IT'S SELLING UNDERVALUED,
THE SJW GARBAGE IS BEING FIRED
>NeoGAF
IN THE YEAR OF 2017,
SJW's INFESTED THIS TRASH BIN
CORRUPT SMEAR MERCHANT "JOURNALISTS", PEDOPHILE MODS,
AND FINALLY A RAPIST "FEMINIST" ADMIN,
DOWN WENT THE SHIP OF SJW FAMINE

GO WOKE, GO BROKE
GO WOKE, GO BROKE

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Unless you live in the Hills have Eyes parts of America you really can't complain much about how bad the gays have it in the States. If you live in some third world shit hole that's controlled by Sharia Law then yeah you are fucked, sorry dude.

The US is creating or translating games that are played the world over. Shoving gays in the face muslims and christian conservatives > whining about CA liberals.

I really don't understand people like you. Did you ever actually hold any "left wing values" to begin with? I really can't imagine coming around on my fundamental belief in justice and equality because someone on "my side" was being a bit of a dick about it. Where are your principles?

White guilt-having crackers pretending to be woke and identfying with PoCs more to appear righteous than because they actually care. I'm a chink and I fucking hate these guys especially the ones that try to tell me how to run my own culture

I live in eastern europe. It's middle of the road.

yeah gonna be fun when the shareholder kikes realize that their muslim and chink audiences dont like homo shit.

>That's fine too if anti-SJWs don't want minorities in games, I don't really give a shit.
Right, so anti-SJWs can do whatever they want, but SJWs are wrong to do what they want.

Exactly. SJWs have poised the well and proven that they should never be catered to whatsoever.

It's not the most conservative medium, it's the most politicised medium.

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so, justice or equality?
its one or the other

I think it's more than the bar for being left has shifted so far in recent years that even if you don't do anything at all or change any of your views at all you'll be considered to be shifting to the right without doing anything,

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>CA liberals
GO GET WOKE AND THE ASS GOES BROKE
THE SHIT STARTS SPILLING
THE STREETS ALL BROWN AND SEETHING

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So did you post that so we know for sure you have a non-fonctional brain that falls for such a shit philosophy that it can't even survive a basic analysis?

*having the correct minorities with the correct representation

Not them, but I'm in my late 30s and my core beliefs haven't changed. I feel that people should be given the tools to achieve a satisfactory life, where some things should not be a major concern, like, (not)having money for health, education or basic living conditions. I think that elderly care should be taken more seriously as well. I also think that some people just can't compete in the working market, due to mental or physical disabilities, so they should be taken care by the Government and helped to integrate the best they can so they can also enjoy some of the nice things in life. However, I approach this from an objective perspective, as factual as possible. Do you know what happens if a leftist like me goes into a leftist meeting and questions the wage gap based on proper statistics? That's why it's hard for me to align with the current leftist parties, even if I want to.

>Pillars of Eternity 1 and 2 is a good comparison. I find the 2nd game writing to be atrocious, trying too hard to show how inclusive they are. The 1st one didn't have this problem with the exception of some things about the villain. Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition is another one, you can see how botched the writing is because they tried too hard to be inclusive and 'cool'. The result is an aberration.
But again, without specific examples I can't really judge if you're telling the truth here or if you're just inclined to think that being inclusive is itself bad writing.
>That it's a consequence of politics and pressure by certain groups that many companies have decided to go the same route.
That would be implying that the devs who are including minority characters aren't happy to do so. The change is coming from within. Again, you come to the "vision of the author" but authors are also people who live in the world and they have political views of their own, so this pristine "vision" doesn't actually exist.
>they did a 180º and gave a ridiculous response to it, something that is verifiable false.
Male MMA fighters actually do fight with bare upper bodies but female fighters don't fight in bikinis.

Well, I can definitely accept that conclusion, but is there any reason to relate it to progressiveness at all or are characters simply bad sometimes?

Literally seething retard

Okay, firstly, you're being incredibly hyperbolic. Secondly, that's again not an agenda, but a method. Thirdly, how is putting minority character in games supposed to accomplish this?

Bioware is notorious for having overly gangly characters, theyll hit on you and talk about fag sex shit they like even if you're character doesnt romance. Bioware is also degenerate when it comes to romance in general. The bull in inquisition went from badass to sex predator right after you recruit him.

It's human male and Rogue for me

>still tranny posting this hard
wew

>Do you know what happens if a leftist like me goes into a leftist meeting and questions the wage gap based on proper statistics?
Well your first mistake is calling it a wage gap when it's an earnings gap to be accurate. Explaining the difference between an earnings gap and a wage gap is pretty much the shortcut towards uncucking people from their uneducated mental retardation about it.

That is utter bollocks. The overton window has consistently shifted right. The only way Democrats could ever be considered "extreme" or even just "left" is in relation to the modern American right. Your graph is entirely relative, too. It only shows parties being more polarised, but it doesn't show where they stand objectively.

Then don't. You are trying to align with literal kids. Just vote for a good candidate and sit back, kids will act out then calm down like every other generation before them. Us complaining about the bdsm fetishism is like the boomers complaining about hippies (who were taking drugs having way too much public sex too). It'll pass.

>You have to base society and values on traditions
>Which ones?
>the traditions that your values agree with

It's litteraly Circular Logic: The Philosophy

>But again, without specific examples I can't really judge if you're telling the truth here or if you're just inclined to think that being inclusive is itself bad writing.
How can you say this when I'm praising TWD with Lee and Clementine? I adore both characters.
>That would be implying that the devs who are including minority characters aren't happy to do so. The change is coming from within. Again, you come to the "vision of the author" but authors are also people who live in the world and they have political views of their own, so this pristine "vision" doesn't actually exist.
Yes, that's true, that's the influence of the zeitgeist. Following such influence like robots to the point of corrupting your vision is a mistake. And that stands for authors in 40 years, as the zeitgest will be different by then (whatever it is). I'm not talking about being a contrarian, but suddenly all WW2 themed games must have women in them for some reason and they need to be main characters. That's not organic, that's coming as an attempt to appease the zeitgeist.
>Male MMA fighters actually do fight with bare upper bodies but female fighters don't fight in bikinis.
They fight in very light clothes still. Both genders do. The reasoning given for MK11 is ridiculous.

>Do you know what happens if a leftist like me goes into a leftist meeting and questions the wage gap based on proper statistics?
People point out that your data is cherrypicked and being pushed by reactionaries?

Loving how you ignore my sentence on how the left demonizes and ruins people's lives on social media for not agreeing with them.

Do you have actual evidence to give or are you just going to post opinions and pass them off as fact like a little bitch?

Man, bless whoever thought up the term "discord tranny" because now you never ever have to think again.

This is probably why it's been a year and no announcements about the game. They'll probably stay silent until 2020 and then finally put out a trailer that tricks people into thinking Joel is playable.

>Explaining the difference between an earnings gap and a wage gap is pretty much the shortcut towards uncucking people from their uneducated mental retardation about it.
The information is available for those people to discover it themselves. They refuse to change their mind.

There are no good parties. I'm strongly considering starting a "True Left" platform, it's been in my mind for a while now.

>your data is cherrypicked
You're being ironic, right? In most European countries, companies would get fined if they were proven to pay women less than men 'just because'. Yet there's barely any cases ever.

>Following such influence like robots to the point of corrupting your vision is a mistake.
>That's not organic, that's coming as an attempt to appease the zeitgeist.
I still think you're making a distinction that doesn't exist in reality. Maybe you just dislike the current Zeitgeist.

"Anything that shows women voluntarily make decisions that reduce their maximum income level is cherrypicked"

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>rescuing the President is bad because le orange man is the current POTUS
This is what some faggots actually believe

And this is how WW3 starts because someone's feelings got hurt online

Addressing it was the first thing I did. Loving how you're ignoring all of my points though in favour of hammering on your own pet issue that I already pointed out wasn't actually relevant to the conversation.

>wasting thoughts on trannies
tick tock faggot

Mate all you said it that it was hyperbolic. Is that your idea of "addressing" it? Or are you just that retarded?

many get more conservative in age but right now its just accelerated because the progressives are going berserk and show their true colors.

>The information is available for those people to discover it themselves. They refuse to change their mind.
Then you ask them to explain how women constitute 80% of all consumer purchases in the economy if there is financial inequality. Let their brains stew for a while.

>True left platform
So, an echo chamber/safe space like Resterera. Got it. Your kind is insufferable. You have to rely on circlejerking each other off to feel justified.

>SJWs have forced their way into video games and are having their way with them
>Games are conservative
???

Obama was demonised as a communist for proposing policy changes first conceived by Reagan. Taxing the rich as much as we did twenty years ago is now inconceivable because that's socialism. By every objective metric, the US is more right-wing now than in the past, and again, your chart only shows relative positions.

I know the distinction very well because I can feel the influence myself when I write certain things. It's a really heavy influence, pressurizing, hard to get rid of. But yeah, I don't like the current zeitgeist, mostly because it shows me that there's no hope. Even with all the information available, people from all sides get duped hard. I'm not talking about some complex theories that would require someone to learn complex science to understand and potentially disprove, I'm talking about how a reporter can write in the title "Person X said Y", which is a gross manipulation and people just swallow the title without giving it a 2nd thought. It becomes a fact that person X actually said Y. That's really sad. We couldn't disprove that before because we didn't have the means, but now? You can literally find the video of the person saying that in barely a few seconds. And yet...

"wasn't actually relevant to the conversation"

I'm not the guy you're replying to but holy shit. It's the entire point of the conversation, you don't get to unilaterally decide what's being talked about.

>I'm strongly considering starting a "True Left" platform, it's been in my mind for a while now.
Which Marxist school of thought will you be representing?

NPCs don't have brains capable of thinking.

You've got no clue what you're talking about. Please read my first reply on the matter, especially the part where I talk about objectivity being important.

>I adressed it
>literally just did "no"
take this L retard

The one where illiterate retards like you get exposed.

>they can't figure out how to market the game.
It's this. There shouldn't have even BEEN a Last of Us 2.

Hopefully this prompts Sony to cut positions at Naughty Dog and tell them to get back to making games 90% of people want to play.

>But a lot of the time especially these days, people bitch about anything other that hetero white man
Because any time a gay appears these days, it's for the exact reason user mentioned in the first place, the reason you just said they're right to complain about. You can't just walk that back.

So you're not actually going to be basing your "True Left" platform on theory, and I'm illiterate?

>In most European countries, companies would get fined if they were proven to pay women less than men 'just because'.
But it's a systemic problem, not "just because". They'll find reasons. And those reasons will happen to apply to women more often than not.

No, the conversation was about minority inclusion in video games and how this was supposed to further the "SJW agenda". If you're saying that they're putting minorities in video games to silence people on social media, you're still not explaining why they're doing it, and you probably have things entirely backwards. In other words, it just doesn't enter into the conversation, and yes, I get to decide that because it was my question you failed to answer. If you want to have a different conversation go ahead, but you don't need me for that.

You're illiterate because you assume marxism when I'm talking an objectivity-based leftism, which is barely non-existent nowadays.
Zero evidence of such systemic abuse.

>Because any time a gay appears these days, it's for the exact reason user mentioned in the first place
Or so you just say in order to be justified in bitching about them.

I quote the original question from you he was replying to: "What do you even think the SJW "cause" is beyond having minority characters in their games?"

You literally specifically asked what the cause was BEYOND having minority characters. You're a fucking idiot.

>You're illiterate because you assume marxism when I'm talking an objectivity-based leftism
So you're going to reject the objective and scientific foundations of left-wing thought for the past century in favour of... what, exactly? What defines your "leftism" at this point other than a rejection of the pay gap?
>Zero evidence of such systemic abuse.
Apart from the pay gap.

I grew up in a hyper liberal family. I am not a hyper liberal. I believe in things like killing people who need killing. Nor am I a crazy conservative who believes that women need men to tell them how to handle their bodies.

I have been an independent voter my entire life, except for registering Republican once to vote for John McCain in the primaries.

I am not white, but white passing Hispanic (hyper liberal family, remember?). I am not gay, but bisexual. I was involved in the gay rights movement for a very long time. I am no longer because I was told that as a "HUWITE GAY MAN" I don't deserve a voice and I shouldn't "lecture" transgenders on how to successfully integrate with society. When I was explaining how the gay rights movement was a decades long solidarity campaign that relied on humanizing us and expecting immediate results was counterproductive. Which is why I don't believe in identity politics.

So here I am. A voter without a party.

None of you registered party members matter. Your votes literally couldn't matter less. I'm the person you need to convince and right now I'm not listening to you. Because you decided not to listen to me.

I'm voting for Giant Meteor 2020 (d/b/a Trump) and you can all get fucked for all I care.

"They'll find... reasons!"

Do you actually have anything solid other than fearmongering?

>You literally specifically asked what the cause was BEYOND having minority characters.
Right, and you entirely failed to answer that, because there is no logical connection between the question and the answer. How can I make this clearer? I explicitly explained it several times now. "Silencing people on social media" isn't an agenda and it isn't accomplished by putting minorities in video games. It fails on both counts. You're just bringing up something random and demanding I talk about that now.

>I believe in things like killing people who need killing.
Start with yourself.

Is English not your first language? When somebody asks what it is "beyond" X, it means they want to know what are the reasons other than X. And he gave you one. It means the conversation isn't about X in question you cockmungler.

I did my best. 21 years on active duty in some of the gnarliest war zones in our history and a lot of shitters like you sitting at home trying to armchair general really gives a man perspective on who should survive.

>I really can't imagine coming around on my fundamental belief in justice and equality because someone on "my side" was being a bit of a dick about it
Nigger I literally get called a nazi by people I thought I shared these "fundamental belief in justice and equality" with, and even abused and harassed. They can go fucking kill themselves, if they want me to be a conservative so bad I'll gladly oblige.

Women being passed over for promotions in favour of men. Feminine jobs receiving less pay ("secretary" vs. "personal assistant"). Women not being hired for some positions because companies don't want to deal with eventual maternity leave. There are loads of systemic factors which contribute to this.

t. Literal faggot degenerate who opens the door for these sub-humans so the can infect everything like a plague
Thanks bro

None of this is true.

Vanellia is old but isn't rouge like 20 or something?

What is this, the 90s?

>And he gave you one.
No. He fucking didn't. Please listen to me. The question is what the fuck putting minorities in games is SUPPOSED TO ACCOMPLISH. THE NEXT STEP. THE END GOAL. THE ULTERIOR MOTIVE. WHY THE SJWS ARE SUPPOSEDLY ENACTING THIS "AGENDA".

And then you feebly interject with "well they called me names on twitter, too".

Again, we've been over this. Companies in the EU will get slapped with heavy penalties if caught doing so. When told this your only response was "they'll find reasons". So I repeat myself: Do you have anything solid to provide?

Can't even tell if this is bait anymore

Fascist

I really want it to be a colossal failure so this actually happens. Please let there be some epic scandal or breakdown from one of the staff so these cunts learn that no one is too big to fail. I will laugh forever. People this "virtuous" are always hiding something.

NOBODY's TALKING ABOUT PUTTING MINORITIES IN GAMES YOU FUCKING RETARD

IF YOU ASK SOMEONE FOR REASONS """"BEYOND"""" MINORITIES IN GAMES THEN THE TOPIC STOPS BEING MINORITIES

IF YOU WANT THE TOPIC TO REMAIN ABOUT MINORITIES DON'T ASK FOR REASONS BEYOND THEM

No, they won't, because you don't understand. There are no rules against this. There are no rules against paying one position less than the other, or thinking John is just a "better candidate" than Jane. This is the part where people go "well that's just the way things are and there's nothing to be done about it". It's not even really up to individuals, often. Like I said, it's systemic.

Stay mad my dude. Like I said, the gay rights movement was sixty years of hard work humanizing gay men (and let's be clear: it was always about gay men; bisexuals were always going to be fine and nobody really cares about lesbians). I remember when the acronym was just "GL" and people wore Green Lantern t-shirts to be low-key supportive. The rest of the alphabet soup latched on in the 90s and early aughts and the whole thing basically collapsed under its own stupidity right around the time widespread support for gay rights arrived.