Play Vermintide 2

I think one of the underrated modes in left for dead was where you played as the zombies so hope they add something similar sometime

Not yet, release is in August.
As for weapons, play whatever you like.

Has anyone been invited to the beta test? How is it?
I was too burnt out on this game to even apply to it.

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based and saltzpilled

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No.
L4D on itself was a boring snoozefest and it wont help this game either.
Balance would be critically out of place and FS knows it and besides neither they nor the majority of fans want an vs mode since it would burn way too much resources.

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Wait wait wait so which is the good one? Shadow over Boogertown?

Are the invites out already? Signed up but no response at all.

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Why are you people so obsessed with furries?
Also why would anyone want to play a boring human, a stuntie or an elf whore?

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A year and three months later. Still no dedicated servers.
DO NOT TRUST FATSHARK

Shadow over Goobertown is the scam. Back to Third Reich is the good one you can safely buy now. Shadow, only on a sale, if at all.

>no dedicated servers (probably never)
>no mapping tools
>no sanctioned mods
>no update on cosmetic drop rates or crafting
>no update on the drop system which is completely skewed against you

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Back to Übersreik.
1. I never liked Skqven to begin with due to their nature and later on mary sueness in ET.
2. The total war general is FILLED with those faggots constantly posting porn about them which was the last nail in the coffin.

So yes, KILL SKAVEN.

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I like how in one of their streams they answered all my questions except for the one about dedicated servers, just pretending as if I didn't ask about it. I wish they actually said no and stop giving false-hope instead.

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/twg/ is filled with chinks now.

no goty version no buy

>New DLC with new race for Vermintide, fucking sweet
>It's fucking beastvirgins and not the green chad masterrace
Dis stinks!

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Nah, fuck the chink devs, fuck their rng and fuck their dlc-whoring of a barebones game.

Garbage FOTM book carrying simulator

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>>no dedicated servers (probably never)
Are still being worked on if they ma age to reduce CPU load we can all host them ourselves.
>>no mapping tools
Are being developed and lots of modders have access to the beta already.
>>no sanctioned mods
Over 40 (something) currently sanctioned, likely more to follow with expansion.
>>no update on cosmetic drop rates or crafting
Sadly cosmetic droprate wont be changed but a shop called Lohners Emporium will allow us to purchase them with earned in game money through weekly events.
>>no update on the drop system which is completely skewed against you
Its fine, reds are easier to get than ever.

Not all perfect it it takes time, just don't be q complete faggot hating with no reason.

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because they're most likely fucking incapable who wrote themselves in a fucking corner with their shit p2p code
now in a situation where they need a headless game server to meet the demand and they can't make any of it work
I remember vividly last year when one of the devs said something along the line of "wew woo we got the server working but it's using a lot of ram and cpu LOL"
I fucking hate those swedes with all of my being. The only competent one at their company are the environment artist.

Beastmemes are easier to make and explain (location and story wise) than Urks.
Those will likely never come due to ET unless we rake the savage ones around Helmgart.

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Stopped playing a month or 2 after launch, started playing again recently. Did they buff the elf 2h sword or something? I don't remember it wrecking shit this hard.

Devs are nor chinks tho, they're backwards Swedes and while tencent holds a share they haven't changed a thing.
Currently the game has more bones than L4D will ever have.

I want a Skaven bf

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>fuck the chink devs
These are Swedes, this level of shit of a job should be expected from them
t. 2k hours in Payday 2

That was the reason they constantly gave, hard to say what happened to it but that is the part where they fucked up hard.

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>500h in Vermintide all hats and reds
>500h in Vermintide 2 most red and 7 hats
Wow, good game fatshart i can't wait for those dedicated servers.

I'll install it again but only if you play with me

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It was always good with Handmaiden, but yes it received a good buff.

Vermintide + Payday spinoff, where a ragtag group of evil race members infiltrates the cities of the good races to sabotage them and prepare the downfall of order. Missions start as stealth with the option to go loud and do the usual wave survival after being discovered.
Available characters are a skaven, a human chaos cultist, a greenskin (maybe a nightgoblin) and maybe a dark elf. Class options are plenty for every character.

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I call bullshit unless the Q&C board was involved.
System in 1 was waaay worse than in 2 and one guy I met with 1000 hours said first half was for playing to "max" second of that time getting all the reds, so yeah bullshit on your side.
I don't want to remember how much I farmed DLC weapons alone...

no have best girl instead

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>human
Ew no

I think it's insane and outright malicious of them to have drop rates so low in the game when it comes to cosmetics. I wanted fancy Kruber hats with feather and the Conquistador helmet, but no chance. Even after 500 hours, no drop. Their stupid shop can go fuck itself, because I know they will bury items behind an obscene grind wall. Pic related, got my first skull mace drop after 470 hours or so.
Just compare it to now, people have 1.5k hours in the game and not found everything, mental. It's a dude bro shooter where people barely dedicate as much time as nerds do and even having items in the game which only a fraction of the playerbase will ever see is retarded.

They put so many options into the game which they could have advanced with, but in the end didn't. Their practices anger me to no end when you think about what could have been easily done with the game. Why didn't they add more armour colours by now? Why no seasonal colours/flavors and so on.

I keep my hopes very low for the upcoming addon.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Different user here. You must have been unlucky then. I got a lot hat drops from running nightmare full book runs alone. But the quest board speeded everything up even faster. To add another thought to it, maybe it wasn't as awful in V1 because of festive hats and alike you got on the side. And also free items during Christmas, twice at least.
Red hats were hard to come by nonetheless.

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That'd be fun.

I understand you completely.
I don't know how they fucked up the Fashiontide aspect that worked at least ok in game 1.
I really believe that the shop will make it better and finally give a reason to play the weekly, bit its a crime that they even now withhold cosmetics still found in the game files atm.
I await the Beastmemes very eagerly.

I'm not lying. Yes, I did quests in V1. In V2 you can only get hats only from commendation chests and quest system is worthless. If you could drop cosmetics from normal chests the loot system would be better.

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Playing since the alpha where not even reds existed etc.
Bur yeah never was the luckiest either, 500 for EVERY weapon is still bit bullshit but I just remembered how I always heard stories about it to be possible since the RNG is so fucking random.
Rest is true, board helped tons and the red hats were so rare holy whit, I think only one of my friends managed to obtain the lion helm for Kruber.

>Currently the game has more bones than L4D will ever have.
im-fucking-plying

vermintide 2:
>requires two DLC to not be barebones
>barely has any modding (less than 300)
>artificial longevity via shitty progression & grind
>people keep playing it just for the loot
>pop-in enemies

L4D2
>no dlc required, updates were free
>pvp
>MASSIVE mod selection (over 50 000)
>still played
>doesn't rely on dumb-ass leveling, grind & damage numbers
>no shitty meta & artificial difficulty

How bad is it?

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At this point, I'm not sure if devs are malicious or just retarded.

I would if not for the dumb file size/content ratio

Just remembered from other old stories that it is possible but you have to be one lucky bastard so GZ if you managed that.
Still doesn't change it that others need 1000 for every weapon where its more generous in 2 (would be faster if there weren't any dupes since they sped up the process). I hope the shop will truly make it easier to obtain the cosmetics.

>Play Vermintide 2
When they release dedicated servers for it and the first game.

They're too retarded to be malicious, but retarded enough to be harmful. They just went full retard.
Is it the most bloated game in existence? 75gb for what exactly?

You forgot to mention, if the host runs on a toaster the enemy spawn is much less.

Oh sorry, I thought we were talking about hats alone. Red weapons in V1 were hard to acquire of course. Never managed to get them all in my time.

I agree that L4D is far better but its also a decade old now and fuck I burnt myself out on that shit long ago.
Vermintide scratches that itch for now until we get whatever it is Turtle Rock are working on next hopefully its actually good and not a repeat of their last fuck-up

Still downloading.

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>vermintide 2:
>>requires two DLC to not be barebones
Not required, they're optional and at least in the first game, brought great content.
>>barely has any modding (less than 300)
300 what? Mods? There are many sanctioned, later modding support will available more when the map making tools are out of beta.
>>artificial longevity via shitty progression & grind
True, but it keeps many playing unless the boring run and gun principe of L4D.
>>people keep playing it just for the loot
Sure, ignore the fantastic first person combat that rather hooks the players and fans of Warhammer. Next you will say L4D can only be played in versus only.
>>pop-in enemies
What does that even mean?
>L4D2
>>no dlc required, updates were free
VT also had free updates but ok.
>>pvp
Boring gimmick that I never touched and to this day only hear bad things.
Vs wouldn't work in VT anyway.
>>MASSIVE mod selection (over 50 000)
Which is the ONLY good point about it and the ONLY good mod is Helms Deep.
>>still played
Just like VT.
>>doesn't rely on dumb-ass leveling, grind & damage numbers
Which is why its shallow and uninteresting, not that the stupid grind enriches the game bit it has something to work forward for many.
>>no shitty meta & artificial difficulty
Meta is set by shitters, most of them are gone anyway.

I'm sure they learned their lesson, unless they build their "L4D3" around some obnoxiouis cosmetic / gear / level system that Vermintide has.

I seriously hope they're sticking to what they know, that way they can't fail.
It all boils down to whether or not they have some greasy publisher/investor breathing down their neck.
I hope it's microsoft, because I heard rumors that they've been giving free hards and ton of money to various devs in order to boost xbox and windows gaming

I believe this was proven to be untrue.

literally p2w

I think the two middle ones aren't really fair, Vermintide 2's base gameplay is far, far more fun and engaging than Left 4 Dead's by a huge margin unless you're counting Versus. That in itself is why I still play it even though I have most Reds for every character, I just find the gameplay very fun. As far as mods go, this is really Games Workshop crippling the game. If you work for Games Workshop on a Warhammer game they fucking REQUIRE you to have the game be "lore friendly" at all times. That's a huge hit against the game, we can all agree. RtU is probably the only DLC you "need", and it came with new weapons, though I didn't think it was worth $10. L4D2's "updates" were copy pastes of 1's maps with little to know care about how the new Specials would be balanced (Dead Air in particular is a fucking nightmare with the Charger).

L4D is completely shit tho. Its gameplay is boring which consists of constantly running qnd gunning everything you see and mods are the only thing that keep it relevant, Vermintide blows both L4D with the gamplay alone away.
The only fun I had in L4D was Helms Deep and that's it.

Can you even play with other people?

Dunno, I don't have any friends to play with anyway.

>pop-in enemies

He when the game spawns enemies directly in front or behind you. And the game does this all the fucking time. In fact with every subsequent update Vermintide 2 has gotten this issue has gotten worse. Hordes and Specials just materialize in front of you, and the game is CONSTANTLY spawning one horde mob behind you so they can hit you for 40% of your HP because of the "lone" buff.

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>>>pop-in enemies
>What does that even mean?
Im assuming he's talking about rats and shit crawling literally out of the ground under you? idk I didn't play this game much.

I'll be your friend ok? Whats your steam?

>I'll be your friend ok?
Nah, I'm good.

I bought the game with my friends but they stopped immediately, I played with randoms mostly, but the game is horrible with AI, they're absolutely retarded

user, read the post chain, it's about Chaosbane.

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WILL SIENNA ACTUALLY GET NEW RANGED WEAPONS, FOR ONCE, PLEASE

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While true, this is always different from user to user and game to game.
On my behalf I had this issue so few times that it wouldn't even exist in all of the time while I saw whole threads filled with anger against this game and the devs.
Unfortunately not often is the game at fault and in nearly 5 years of Vermintide it can be possible that it is a problem of the local computer.
Some updates break and some fix other things.
Yeah understood it now sadly its a very sporadic problem different from pc to pc.

Just dodge bro.

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shameless niggers

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If you find useful spells that aren't in the game, then yes.

It is true. If I host, or if I play with someone with a good box, I'll see way more beserkers and specials, than if I join Juan playing on his laptop.

Reason why I didn't bought it.
Even VT was around 30-40 but this for a shallow top down game is really too much.

>DLC 01
>XP Boost

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>Pre-order DLC 01 - XP Boost

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why the fuck is there an option to purchase and pre-purchase the upgraded editions?

I remember when this was discovered in 1 and was still discussed in 2.
My memories are a bit hazy but I think something related to the CPU was actually disproven and I believe it was that "feature".

I plan on playing for the first time later today, what should I know going in?

I stopped playing this when a Chaos patrol spawned ontop of us near the end of a map. Is that fixed?

Such bugs unfortunately depend on the PC, but in general, yes it was fixed.

I really enjoy Vermintide 2 but holy fuck why is Fatshark so fucking stupid? Why? They make Bethesda look like geniuses.

>Cosmetics have such a horrendous drop rate most players may as well forget about ever having them
>100 game hats for the classes most of the time do not match their armor
>Refuse to add the Halloween Event night maps to regular rotation even though fucking every single player wants it
>Weekly Events have no incentive at all
>Fatshark thinks sacrificing 5 Red items to craft 1 Red item isn't good enough to be given the Red illusion
>Bogenhafen cosmetics were all purple reskins of existing Illusions
>Every major update requires multiple hotfixes
>Deeds are too rare
>There is no matchmaking for Deeds

I could go on.

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never forget
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>I really enjoy Vermintide 2 but holy fuck why is Fatshark so fucking stupid? Why?
They make Bethesda look like geniuses.
Agreed. It's simply suffering but at least we will get something new soon...
>>Cosmetics have such a horrendous drop rate most players may as well forget about ever having them
Yeah tons of em still in the code unavailable.
game hats for the classes most of the time do not match their armor
Only for the most dedicated...
>>Refuse to add the Halloween Event night maps to regular rotation even though fucking every single player wants it
This...is due to Lore... it's complicated..
>>Weekly Events have no incentive at all
Soon they will, with Lohners shop you will earn ingame currency to finqlly buy those cosmetics similar to Q&C
>>Fatshark thinks sacrificing 5 Red items to craft 1 Red item isn't good enough to be given the Red illusion
Yeah, all for pride and accomplishment to earn it...
>>Bogenhafen cosmetics were all purple reskins of existing Illusions
Whole DLC felt like they cut a whole map with the final boss battle away...
>>Every major update requires multiple hotfixes
Always been the case...they never learn...
>>Deeds are too rare
While not really interested they kinda became obsolete with the weeklies, no?
>>There is no matchmaking for Deeds
Yeah.
>I could go on.
Its a long list.

Has Fatshark gotten to the good part of their cycle yet after having finished focusing on consoles? The first Vermintide was damn near perfect by the end of its cycle and, despite not being "finished" with it (duos/deathwish), I went along with the hype train into V2 of which, within a couple months, I got bored and tired of all the shit and the constant backslides of work.

Lots of things.
Early on you will experience mindless hack n slay which will likely question your purchase, but on the higher difficulties it gets real.
Dodging and blocking becomes essential and over the time you will learn many other useful tips and tricks like block canceling or other stuff.
As for weapons, each has their pros and cons, others outshine others but if you have fun with one keep on using it.
The age of forced meta is over.

Game is way faster with content, fixing and balancing than the first.
In 2 years what VT1 managed to achieve to become truly playable the 2nd managed in 1.
Currently game is in a good state but if you want to get into it then wait for the expansion to experience all it's content from the first DLC to the expansion for a new experience.
The announcement of Beastmen alone was so unpredictable that Im actually await it eagerly(with realistic expectations mind you).

>become truly playable the 2nd managed in 1
The fuck it did. They have constantly and consistently been rebreaking shit that was already fixed because of their absolutely moronic revision control.

And they stopped doing much of anything at all for the entire duration of getting the console release out and supported.

to be fair it would be extremely lorebreaking

Sigmar preserve us...

/twg/ was always a cesspit

his head is soooo smol

Then you're not as long on this boat then I am. I can speak from experience when I say they managed it in 1 year.
1st game became playable with patch 1.4 and 1.6 Q&C.
Them fixing and breaking stuff was always a problem mind you.
I hated them for this when they did it in the 1st game and my anger was unmeserable when they did it in the 2nd one as well...
It got worse through them...

Winds of Magic stream now niggers
twitch.tv/fatsharkgames

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Oh shit negro.
Hope they show Wind of Ulgu and Billhook for Saltz.