Previous thread i now agree with another user that previously stated that he would prefer to have clan Brujah be taken out of the base game in order to have BOTH Malk and Nos in.
Those two clans have serious GAMEPLAY MECHANIC CHANGES with MALKAVIAN having virtually all dialogue options changed, special encounters, atmosphere changes (you hear whispers in the background while playing), etc. while NOSFERATU is the only stealth class with hacking and has INSTANT MASQUERADE VIOLATION upon close proximity with humans.
It was going to be a close choice and one important clan would have to be sacrificed.
If Malkavian was out of the base game: a DLC version for the clan would be shit. Dialogue options would be minimal, atmosphere events would be afterthoughts (not artisan's touch), events would be minor.
Now if Nosferatu would be out of the base game: the game would be significantly easier, virtually catering to casuals/noobs of the series and not providing fans/thrillseekers a proper challenge due to not having to think and play carefully because of the inherent Grotesque Visage clan weakness of the Nosferatu. Also, the game lacks a subtlety/stealth style of gameplay for players who want indirect solutions to quests. Now there is also a lack of research digging for knowledge hunters/fans who love secrets, easter eggs, etc. that is gained through high level of security/hacking. But bear in mind, this is the modern era of gaming after all, and dataminers have ruined secrets for video game players everywhere.
It was a tough decision and I wish we had both, but one clan had to die so the other could live.
I would rather sacrifice Ventrue in exchange for Nosferatu honestly. From what people have said about the combat, Brujah seems like they would be really fun and effective to play as actually. Ventrue are just boring as shit all around.
Gabriel Lewis
isn't dominate and presence do almost the same thing? they're both workarounds to get through humans
Kevin Jenkins
Dominate gets people to do what you want. Presence makes you, yourself, stand out more.You cant use presence to instigate murder.
Anthony Parker
will the new vtmb game be fun if you haven't played anything in the series b4? i haven't played none of this white wolf games. think i can just jump in and have fun or do i need to know all the lore of who insulted who in the different families?
Nightly reminder that Toreador is best clan, you don't have to thank me
Landon Myers
I thought they'd be in for sure. Ugly vampires are a media staple along with the hot ones. But I guess no thinblood would willingly join them.
William Clark
>paying for Bloodlines y tho. Troika is dead.
Mason Hill
Daily reminder that Gary was more likely the male equivalent of cleopatra and he's seething about it towards toreadors
Jordan Rivera
>willingly join i think it's heavily implied you will diablerize someone at some point in the game
Carson Morales
>Bloodlines i don't want to play it because it has poo poo tier graphics and i need at least decent graphics so i can fulfill my self insert vampire fantasy. also troika has burned me before with their "flawed gems". looking at you arcanum
>VTMB2 >Chunk is "voluntary security guard" at his own retirement home >Has to constantly be reminded that he doesn't work there >Thinks the nurses want to stop him from doing his job because they are up to something >Player gets a stealth side quest to help him get evidence on the nurses at night >Mostly depressing and/or perverted stuff >Turns out one of them is a Thin Blood psycho feeding on the old folk >Have to beat the shit out of him all across the place >Half the home destroyed by fire during battle >Chunk loses his mind and runs away bloody screaming >Chunk's screams alert everyone to get out >Player has to flee the scene >Next night on the news: Known for having fought against terrorists in the dreaded LA attack against the Lacroix Foundation Tower, Officer Chunk, as he is foundly called by his friends, is a retired security guard and a hero who once again saved the day by fighting off intruders and alerting everyone on the retirement center about the danger all while bravely attempting to stop the flames from spreading.
>we want video game archetypes in order to lure in newcomers to our series >our Clan choices are based on archetypes >no stealth class Thinblood is clearly jack-of-all-trades and they're unwilling to use Assamite. Maybe they're not confident with the current state of Nos? Maybe it needs more work?
Colton Jenkins
that doesnt answer my question
Carter Nguyen
what are toreaders and malkavians supposed to be
Isaac Turner
Expectation of Tzimisce >Eldritch terror or demonic looking being Actual Tzimisce >Dude im a reptile lmao heres my ghoul chair.
Josiah Young
Chunk is dead
Robert King
The answer is no, you can't circumvent your clan curse. Nossies can't even mitigate it. This isn't science my dude, these are biblical level curses.
Logan Richardson
T.kine here and you can't do shit to stop me
Tyler Wright
Nebulation is a budget stealth discipline I guess
Dylan Martin
I'm not a lorefag, but since the original curse is literally "everyone will think you're ugly", I'd say that every change any Tzimiscebro would do it would still end up looking hideous to everyone.
Carter Barnes
Tremeres were able to change nosferatus into Gorgoyles just fine, proving they can change the outlook of them. Why wouldn't a fiend with Vicissitude do the same?
I don't know, man, people here post sometimes a cute nosferatu lady that I would bone terribly while she wears a gimp mask.
Carson Bailey
Nah you'd just change back after you went to sleep for the day. Maybe even pick up different deformities. When Nossies get embraced there's a big chance of them dying because of how it fucks them up so you'd probably be doing that daily, with all the pain and time that comes with it.
Hunter Torres
I guess it's better to look at the clans as City of Heroes archetypes instead of typical video game archetypes. There's some overlaps, but they all have a job to do. Now, if only they're willing to put in classes based on pet control or generic mook group control..
Robert Barnes
Nope.
Parker Diaz
They didn't "turn" anything. They mashed up Gangrel and Nossies into sentient golems. Nothing was circumvented, they just repurposed spare parts from dead (for real this time) dudes.
Jaxon Allen
>Tzimiscebro Aside from dracula who is the biggest chad of VTM lore, is there any tzimisce who's not an asshole?
Parker Sullivan
user posted this in the last thread, may I kindly ask for some sauce?
I suppose he'd sneed a 9th one, but weren't there cases of lower gens suddenly shitting out thinbloods? And that's why Beckett believes thinblood is some sort of state or some sort of cyclical thing tied to Gehenna?
I'm not into him either desu, that's why I said debatable.
Austin Taylor
>Those two clans have serious GAMEPLAY MECHANIC CHANGES There you go. You just explained to yourself the reason why they both aren't in. Seethe harder noscuck.
Jeremiah Gonzalez
Castration
Sebastian Morales
Post which clans/bloodlines you hope get a quest or NPC about them. I'm hoping Giovanni return.
If Dracula can break the masquerade and live why can't you
Christopher Jenkins
he cute
Brayden Ward
So the poster boy of the game is pretty much confirmed to be a malkavian and the bad guy or fall guy Lilith's modal got leaked so we can assume she's the baddie
Ryder Miller
>Sheriff comes to take down a masquerade-breaking thinblood thinblood dies like a bitch >Sheriff comes to take down a dracule *unzips disciplines* i'd like to see you try
Jack Reed
what is big tiddy mommy
Cooper Brooks
I weep for American Kindred and their lack of self-control
after some digging I found this site which is the biggest available archive of his work thenew.kr/cucuzi his later work kinda reminds me of cbot's designs
Liam Russell
>Lilith stop this meme lest it come to pass
Angel Myers
I mean, it hit me the other day while I was rewatching the trailer. The way the woman talks about the blood curse sounded like a really ancient low gen bitch that just woke up and was hungry. First game had Caine, this was bound to be Lilith, that was my thought process.
>game comes out >lilith really is involved >"canon" material comes out >"it was a malkavian pretending to be lilith bro"
Elijah Stewart
It's it creepy to blood bond someone without their knowledge?
Ian Lopez
That would unironically be better than whatever these devs would put together for a Lilith story. I don't think I could imagine a worse group to hand a character like that to.
Camden Ross
I really hope to see Baali in this game, like something in the first one with that nossie in the sewer, some sort of gathering they do or even that you have a quest to finish with a cult which leader is a Baali
Depends on the motive desu. Are you a stalker for their looks or something? Yeah, that's pretty creepy. Doing it because they own a strong company or something and you need dosh? Good idea for a vamp desu.
Hunter Sanchez
remember rudi
Lincoln Watson
Lacroixfag aside, what if in the ending the domination didnt worked because it was just a ghoul made to look like lacroix by his tzimisce bodyguard?
Chase Reed
He's a pretty cool guy. A Methuselah from before recorded history. First Anti-tribu and master of Obtenebration. And he has nothing in common with modern African-Americans beyond the color of his skin.
Aiden Powell
Nah Nightshade is bad but I can't imagine the amount of "gurl powah!!!" garbage these devs would put in. Lilith is a monolith and I definitely don't trust the likes of these homos.
Elijah Hughes
now pray to not get cucked out of the next DLC
Anthony Lee
Is there any tl;dr on how embrace rituals look? I know some clans go out of their way to make it far more complicated than it could have been like Tremeres or Gangrels
Joshua Morris
>next dlc >season of the wolf what did they mean by this nos bros
Noah Gonzalez
She's your new VV
John Gomez
(USER WAS BLOODHUNTED FOR THIS POST)
Jayden Green
>Gangrels lolwut. They just chase people down then let them go on their own for awhile.
Levi Bailey
I'm 90% positive Lou is an mtf tranny
Michael Cooper
Would you still do it? Be honest. I would not
Isaac Martin
Any of you fags playing the pnp? Is there a way i can shoehorn myself as a tzimisce when sabbat clans are banned? Thought of making a fiend shovelhead runaway anarch
Camden Reed
Tzimisce isn't even playable anymore lamo
Asher Murphy
Doesnt most people ignore V5 tho?
Matthew Peterson
It fixes a fuck ton of broken and convoluted mechanics
Jace Roberts
I fucked that tranny kueijin in the Clan Quest Mod
James Martinez
I am considering running a discord campaign for any faggots here who want to join. V20. I've only ran 1 campaign before though. Dont know where to set it though. If there's enough interest I'll make a server.
anyone got a good download link for the first? since good old downloads died and so
Camden Gray
By dumbing down everything that made it fun.
Jason Ross
I just wanna say you're doing some serious mental gymnastics and assume a lot of how the game would have to be balanced to justify it. Try making the same post, but argue against the point you just made.
Jaxon Carter
There's no indication of clan DLCs being tied to Season of the Wolf or other story packs. Both Gangrel and Nosferatu can be released before or after it.
Nolan Parker
Buying from GOG or from the usual sites getting a GOG version
No, disciplines like celerity were broken as all hell and made campaigns very, very gamey in that way. The main faults of V5 are it's narrative elements, not so much it's quality of life changes. I think the most competent storyteller would pull substantially from both 20e and v5
resonance was an unnecessary and stupid fucking idea
Jonathan Howard
s'aight. Most of the content it adds is real hit or miss though, and some is outright fanfiction tier.
Lucas Morales
Can you get the rest of the plus patch content without the Jeanette cuck content?
Dominic Rivera
I'm glad they're dropping the penguin of doom fishmalk shit for actually fucked up disorders
Bentley Rivera
these are all super cool thanks
Gabriel Johnson
I don't understand. Explain.
Kayden Howard
can kuei-jin fuck?
Andrew Murphy
The Sabbat questline and new zone is surprisingly good, actually hired VA's for them. Other things arent.The Clan Quests are hit or miss. Other minor things either are weirdly placed or just bad.
Grayson Gray
It adds a note where Jeanette rates guys she's fucked. (You) get a *** some other guys get a **** or *****.
I just don't like em, I went independent on that playthrough. It's alright if you're bored of the base game and want to get additional content. Most of the added quests suck though, along with the new East LA hub. I wish there was a way of installing Camarilla Edition Lite by itself to get Blood timer/Blood Buff & Heal tweaks, they're pretty good but CE itself is very bug ridden.
I keep hearing of this but have yet to even get a screenshot. I'm not saying I doubt it exists, but I think my X button might break if I keep hitting it ya feel me.
Mason Thompson
I don't see the point of a mod adding cuck content, I just want the other stuff.
Ethan Anderson
Dude... Jeanette is a whore
Camden Hughes
That Dharma shtick it was talking about is canon so probably.
Jaxon Watson
>its cuck because the sluttiest slot in the game (who even fucked a Nosferatu she is so slutty) thinks you aren't the best fuck she had Delusional
Brayden Howard
user, you can't seriously expect most people to be laughed at by a fucking fan mod and be cool with it.
Aaron Nguyen
Why would anyone want this
Mason Moore
How the fuck is you average at sex make you a cuck
Bentley Evans
Are you saying that being confronted with that isn't cuck material?
Leo Sanders
>cuckposters being obtuse I'm shocked. I'm not. That paper, if it even exists, exists as nothing but a way to mock the player. For what purpose could that possibly be needed or seen as a good thing?
Noah Wood
No, the clan weakness actually reverts any changes Vicissitude makes
Angel Davis
>gloves Cover guy confirmed to be Mitsoda
Ayden Ross
i made a general it 404'd pretty quick i think it's just too early. won't work until the game is about to drop probably.
Gabriel Rogers
Chunk is currently providing powdered sugar to his foxy mama malk, thank you very much.
Dominic Butler
Or untill we get a demo I miss demos
Aaron Wright
could a Tzimisce use vicissitude to grow me a new foreskin
come on Andrei quit messing around just give me the prepuce
Samuel Moore
Come on you don't want anything? Barbs, teeth, eyes, vibration glands, a vagina, multiple penises???? Are you gay?
Evan Bell
>vibration glands alright now we might be onto something
Grayson Reyes
They better bring back the same dancing from the first game.
Andrew Powell
don't vamps revert to the exact physical state they were in after they go to sleep or some shit? i remember that was the reason that nosferatu couldn't just get plastic surgery to unfuck themselves.
Cameron Perry
Now, this procedure usually takes a fair amount of blood so unless you wanna be completely drained of blood but leave a nice corpse with a foreskin id suggest a doner
