SMASH ULTIMATE WILL HAVE VR

That's a good question, VR chat was very popular.

Kirby gets a special anti-sword deflect

i bet theres gonna be 0 buffs/nerfs, instead there'll be like 1 visual change on a character's moves

When you think about VR, you are reminded of the feeling of nausea and vomiting.

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Levin Sword nerf for Robin.

Wii Fit Trainer, bigger ass hitbox

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>Nerfing an already shit-tier character like robin

out of all fe shits you choose to nerf the worst one? nerf fucking lucina so shes trash tier.

>Nerfing Robin
>Nerfing the only thing that makes her kill confirm in a 1-on-1 match

Times up swordies!

(except Ike, he's cool)

give her some damage output and she's all good

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This. Fuck that character.

>implying they won't nerf zoners again, buffing swordies
sakurai and his team are retarded enough to do it again

>nerf Robin
you're a faggot and a clearly shitty player
perhaps instead of nerfing anything, we should just nerf you from existence for being a waste of space
the only thing that should be nerfed is femrobin's clothes so she can wear her heroes bikini

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>Buffed
Someone who doesn't need it
>Nerfed
Someone who doesn't really need it
>Jack shit
Robin

i look forward to nintendos own cryptic shit language like

>Character lag has been adjusted for all fighters.

No thanks, don't need people maining another obnoxious flippy character, we got ZSS for that

I don't want Robin nerfed but I can see the devs doing anyway.

Marth will either get nothing or a minor blanket debuff/buff that affects all FE characters.

Are you brain dead?
Robin needs some serious buffs.

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No Buffs
Wouldn't mind more nerfs

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didn't they actually give a pretty decent patch log for smash recently

it wasn't that good

>WHO GETS JACK SHIT?
all the characters who are in desperate need for buffs
I know the system of using Elite Smash for balance decisions is bullshit but no one plays the bottom of the barrel losers like Jr. or Robin
besides bottom of the barrel losers like me
so they should buff those characters
Robin isn't the slowest character anymore only because Incineroar is and Jr. does is bad at everything
Sakurai pls

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scrub

1 HOUR UNTIL NESSFAGS ARE BLOWN OUT OF EXISTENCE AND JIGGLYPUFFCHADS ARE GETTING BUFFED

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Literally all I want is a slight nerf to some of Wolf's endlag and change how his nair works. Really tiring to not be able to punish anything Wolf does, I literally can't remember the last time I beat a Wolf

buff corrin

Shulk is literally a 500 IQ top-tier-in-waiting so he doesn't need anything.

I think the VR is just going to be for replays. So no actual gameplay. Also it will be in 3rd person.

Give Lucas his combos back

Robin buff.

1-2% damage buff on her entire toolset, increased knockback on bair, and bigger bfish hitbox.

Realistically it'll just be more hitbox changes.

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>Robin needs some serious buffs.
And will get none.

Buff Snake

Good.

>Shulk
>High IQ
literally all you is just practice his neutral b and his hitbox range
he's requires more brain than other swordies, but he isn't no pac-man/duck hunt

>VR
So nothing?

Bad you mean, but expected. That or nerfed further no damn good reason.

Its getting weirder and weirder with Sakurai...

Is he really gonna release a BIG update without at least an update video?

Cuz theres no way one could consider VR or Online Amiibos something minor or insignificant.

>VR
hes fucking in.

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Buff Isabelle

Having amiibos fight eachother online would be super fun

He has autism, go easy on him

please, just make them cool. making them good can come later

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According to some news reports, thats supposedly what we are getting.

ffs, we'd better be getting two character reveals at E3, with one releasing immediately and the other coming 2 months later. How the fuck are they going to release all of these characters by Feb. at this pace?

>buffed
a random middle of the road character that didn't need any changes
>nerfed
probably dedede, which sucks because he's in a perfect place right now where he's totally viable but not busted either
>jack shit
characters who need buffs, as usual

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hopefully it isn't just fucking erdrick at e3, or i fall asleep on this game for months

nothing at all

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buff marth nerf Lucina

Perfect

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Buff when

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what does this even mean, lucina is too good compared to marth.

very slightly nerf lucina's kill power, buff marth's tippers

PAC-CHADS WW@?

>Cuz theres no way one could consider VR or Online Amiibos something minor or insignificant
Given this is 3.1 and not 4.0, it's safe to say this is generally inconsequential, at least to Sakurai.

Fucking nothing for Ken.

>WHO GETS BUFFED?
Characters who are pretty decent right now (not too strong, not too broken) and absolutely don't really need any buffs
>WHO GETS NERFED?
Characters who are pretty decent right now (not too strong, not too broken) and absolutely don't really need any nerfs
>WHO GETS JACK SHIT?
Characters that desperately need buffs and nerfs
We out here

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Falco needs some buffs.

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might as well play 3rd strike

>jack shit
Duck Hunt will keep the shitty Hitboxes and Smash Attacks slips.

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They probably will

I very well meant good. Character's a cancer gimmick to play against because SDI is a piece of shit this game, same with Ness. Make arcfire have a better SDI multiplier and she's 10 times easier to fight against, especially online.
Offline Robin sucks, but having to sit through a 5 second cutscene every time you get hit by 2 arcfires or by her aerial smash attacks that combo into themselves is retarded.

nerf palutena lucina wolf olimar

Post your main and what changes you think they'll get, if any. I don't expect my boy to receive anything, probably some insignificant "nerf" like the decreased shield damage from the boomerang it got last patch

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>there will never be vr missions style missions in smash

buff bayo

>managing five different cooldowns
>MALLC
>dial storage
>neutral B invincibility frames
>different arts allow different combos
>switching art mid-combo

Shulk is practically playing a different game than every other character.

>king dedede
>fucking nothing

Hoping Corrin gets nerfed. Not because they’re good or bad. Just because I hate Fates with a fiery passion and want them to suffer

Hopefully Pit and DPit get some buffs.
I just need a bit more %!

BUFF JIGGLYPUFF
NERF NESS

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please make little mac better
i know it cant happen though, hes fundamentally bad, no small tweak could fix him ;_;

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No one realized this is fake

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You can always shield the attack thanks to improved shields, jab it, dodge roll it, or look at it funny. Seriously its not hard to deal with.

>mfw Nintendo actually put this much thought into putting Raiden in
if true, wow, respect

retarded mii costume poster

:^)

I AM A GREAT PREDICTOR, HEAR ME, YE WHO HAVE FAITH

>System changes/Big gameplay changes
FUCKING NOTHING, OR SO IT IS SHOWN WITHIN THE EYES IN MY BRAIN

>Character/balance changes
HEAR ME NOW, AS THEY SPEAK IN MY MIND: AT LEAST ONE ALREADY BAD CHARACTER WILL GET NERFED. ONE GOOD CHARACTER WILL GET BUFFED, AND OTHERS WILL HAVE IRRELEVANT CHANGES AND FIXES, SUCH IS THE WAY OF THE NINTENDO.

>Additional shit
FUCKING NOTHING

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>slight run speed buff
>down tilt is no longer frame 10 startup

I know it's counterplay. That's not my point.
Robin online is a much bigger threat because of SDI sucking big fucking dick and not realky being able to react to her shit soon enough. Robin offline sucks but she's still very annoying to deal with and no one knows the matchup.
I'm more mad at this piece of shit online and SDI being nonexistent than Robin, to be honest. I wouldn't cry if she was nerfed to the ground, however.

I want them to nerf counters in general, they stay activated more than they should.

>WHO GETS JACK SHIT?
Ridley. Sakurai’s balance team seems to either be overlooking his flaws or just not care. But then again, I figured this would happen since they balance based on fucking elite smash.

Cloud.
He needs nair and Limit buffs.
He's getting nothing.

This but unironically. Marth has so little damage output in comparison that Lucy completely invalidates him.

No he fucking doesn’t. Get the fuck over yourself.

the greatest buff nintendo can do is to the netcode

Going live in less than an hour twitter.com/SSBUBot/status/1134084159725539328?s=19

go play smash 4 if you want his nair buffed

Cloud is actually fine. screw off with wanting smash 4 cloud back

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The changes won't be anything worthwhile because they don't look at tournaments and we don't have Elite Smash stats.

Fagit

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really? All he needs is for his up b to go a bit higher.

I'd be impressed if they reworked a character
I know it takes forever to make a character but how hard would it be to give Sonic a different side-b
no one likes Sonic's moveset

Which amiibo are you guys sending on a journey?

Sakurai revealed that each characters online win rates aren't very far apart
nintendoeverything.com/sakurai-talks-smash-bros-ultimate-online-mode-victory-rates-character-usage-more/

*misses your standing opponent*
I'm not asking for his nair to be an airport again, I'm asking for it to at least to match the fucking animation.
This is a problem game wise anyway, not Cloud exclusive. Too many hitboxes that don't follow their animation at all.
More like to snap to the ledge.

this is why i wanted shadow, maybe he would have fucking wario's side B

jigglypuff
REMOVE HIS TURN-AROUND BACK AIR
GIVE REST MORE KILL POWER
JUST REMOVE SWORDS FROM THE GAME

Cloud is pretty fucking good still. if you get good with his netrual game he's almost impossible to punish.

or witch time

I think Dorf is going to get a nerf, not that he needs one but if they're going by what online shitters say like with Krool then I think he's going to get something nerfed.

>screams out chaos control like in SA2
would actually be kino

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GIVE ME MORE CUSTOM STAGE SLOTS REEE

Most don't, actually. This has been a problem for the past two games, along with making more and more limbs intangible or invincible during attacks (usually the latter, so it will clank and win with shit. GW usmash is an easy example to show). It means attacks don't visually make sense interacting at all-- and people whining about "sword characters" don't realize the answer given from the devs was to make other characters' limbs essentially swords. Diddy's legs are infamously stupid. Plenty of legs from sexkicks go through shit like Marth's fair and it makes whiffpunishing reliably dumb.

He went untouched last two patches. I'm expecting a hat trick. I would like to be wrong and see him get some buffs though.

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That's 6 months old.
Post the new one.

Make them like K Rool's where you actually have to face the right way or it doesn't work, and remove the one frame where you can't grab them.

that would be retard good because of how KB works

Every time

Zelda

>Nerf down throw so now it combos into nothing
>Make her slower
>Add more frames to grabs start up
>Make Nayru's love hurt zelda
>Give dins free fall again
>Remove teleport
>Take D-tilt and replace it with DeDeDe's
>Any kind of correctly kill ledge cancel kills zelda
Knight has faster start up

Set me free sakurai

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how much longer til it goes live?

Just grab them

>VR for Smash just being released with no update before from Sakurai
Yeah, sure it will.

>time the grab as they counter
>it whiffs during their invincibility frames
Few things make me more upset than reading someone that hard and not getting diddly dick

joker's counter comes out too quick

A whole lot of fucking nothing. Maybe another FS buff if the balance team is feeling generous.

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Shit sucks because the reason they aren't far apart is because retards gravitate towards top tiers without knowing how to best utilize them and bring down their winrate.

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Fix her nair too

konami reps need to stop littering the fuck outta the stages with their crap. sad how the whole companies reps are shit thrower characters.

Oh thats right
>Reduce nairs hit boxes and make it so it has landing lag

Perfect.

Now its like I am playing brawl all over again.

for casual fun reduce the bullshit range her final smash has.

I'm not gonna get my hopes up. Last balance patches were literally fucking nothing and managed to disappoint me everytime

IS HE IN?

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pre-Arsene? it's not really a true counter
Arsene? tbf that's because it's arsene mode already

*makes Tornado function like Luigi's*

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>For casual fun make it so zelda's final smash either takes her own stock or turns her into shiek except with a really slimy penis

I hope so too user

>vr in smash
how the fuck is this gonna work?

You glorious motherfucker.

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Banjo

without kazooie?

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>3.0.0
>projectile damage on shield reduced almost globally
>3.1.0
>nevermind lol reverting it to what it was except for the characters you like

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>Last balance patch was literally fucking nothing
>Changed how projectiles work on shield and on parry for literally everyone

>nerfing Little Mac

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The parry change was literally the only good change, literally nobody asked for the shield buff and i can't care less about it

>nerfing Final Smashes

Can Nips even into VR?

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It was a decent QoL for playing online by discouraging people from going for cheese shieldbreak stuff or getting poked by projectiles. Overall it was an okay change, though not ideal. What's dumb is that some attacks beat out projectiles easily and cleanly (Link's nair, Marth fair, etc) and others just don't ever. Reflecting gordos as DK is suffering as you will randomly trade.

Kirby being able to heal by eating projectiles is still worthless with the delay you get for eating it, you're better off just avoiding them.

Kirby should just have Dedede's Inhale in terms of swallowing projectiles

I want it back for Weegee

Seek help for those ridiculous Vietnam flashbacks.

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>weaken the gravity popo exerts on nana
>somehow give them a fast, reliable desync in neutral
character fixed

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there is a start with Orbus. Which is a rough, but still VR MMO

What's the current character of the week Yea Forums is butthurt over?

>someone proposes nerfing Little Mac
I can't belive we have this level of causal in this thread

Behold true VR.

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HEY WOLF PLAYERS! YOUR MOTHEFUCKING LIFE ENDS 10 MINUTES FROM NOW!

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>they just nerf f smash knockback so it kills 5 percent later

>kirby's whole shtick is his inhale
>has a worse inhale then a copycat
Why
The healing doesn't mean jackshit since you get punished for even attempting it

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>punished for even attempting it
more like punished for succeeding

Sakurai has said more than once that he doesn't think he needs to change much. So learn to hit Wolf while he's off stage.

I think I’d trust my nearsighted grandma over sakurai when it comes to smash balance

Get gud

Any that they can't beat

Sakurai please buff my wife. She desperately needs it.

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It's been snake and olimar for the last several weeks, but so far negativity has simmered down aside from some trolls and baiters.

Never said he was good at balancing. He's prioritizing online results over tournaments. That's why K Rool got nerfed. Just know what to expect.

side b and up b are so fucking obnoxious to contest without disjoints though :(

PATCH NOTES

Nigga just throw out a Nair outside of the Side B tipper range
If you trade he's dead

Comfortably sitting in Jack Shit over here.

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Let me turn on visible hitboxes in training mode you fuck

Let me see which attacks have stupid qualities like weird disjoints or invincibility frames

She got nothing.

I would like to try VR Smash, just for the screen splat knock outs.

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LIST IS OUT
en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/45405

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>daisy nerfed
>peach buffed
NANI???

>pichu takes more damage now
fuck. all they needed to do was make his hitbox bigger for people like ken

>getting spiked in VR
Just the thought of this is terrifying

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>dem jigg buffs

We're back boys!

>all of my mains got buffed
B A S E D
S A K U R A I

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>Pichu is now easier to hit
What did they do, make his hitboxes twice as large?

>huge Lucario buffs
WHERE MY FURRY BOYS AT?!

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>cpus only

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>Peach buffed as fuck

And I thought it was impossible for her to get better. Although I'm not sure how the throw distance will affect her.

>Increased vulnerability

CAN THIS WOMAN BE STOPPED?

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Wait wasnt there a leak this morning about this?

Nothing, but a range buff would be good but he wont get jack squat

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Increased vulnerability most likely means more endlag or whatever the Smash terminology is.

Those are nerfs dum dum. She's more vunerable and her F-air and B throw are both weaker now.

>Nintendo better at balancing than real FG devs
what timeline did I just get warped to

We have a datamine proper besides patchnotes?

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>fuck all for Pac-Man

GOD DAMMIT

Her golf club is fucking useless, her Fair getting nerfed means she was straight up nerfed.

Damn, I'm interpreting this shit all wrong. But is that enough to de-rank her from S tier?

I bet Tsu is fucking happy with this patch.

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>Charizard
>nothing for aerials
Feels bad. Though I'm glad his jab is better.

>The server is currently undergoing maintenance
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Once again, completely unmolested.

It pays to salute the sun.

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>it's another broken character gets buffed episode

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Probably, yes. She already struggles in several MUs, and now she actually has to look for kills in more creative ways.

Likely made his head hurtbox an actual hurtbox, along with Olimar.

>broken
>>>"buffs"
you could write "I am a retard" with less effort, user

Actually buffed. Jabs linking better = more buries

Wolf was nerfed. Across the board jabs got buffed to link better along with a few other multihits (wolf's usmash) but it's a very small buff. His other stuff impact his

>he doesn't know what a quicker shine can do

Maybe? Her combo and item game still seems broken good though. I'm guessing F air and B throw will now kill later at like 150% instead of 120%

>Actually buffed.
Like I said. UnMOLESTED.

>Captain Falcon totally buffed
>Still a shit pick that's too fast in this game
Oof

Erdrick and Banjo confirmed

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>tfw All my favorite characters go almost completely untouched
I mean, all the balance notes seem totally fair but Ridley has yet to get any real big buffs.
Oh well, I'm happy for Lucario and Little Mac mains.

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fuck off

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>Luma dies even faster now
>But it also comes back sooner
Yay, now Luma can die even more often

>3.0 was basically the Mewtwo update
>3.1 is basically the Lucario update
This is Gamefreaks fault somehow.

>Erdrick and Banjo
Great. Unga Bunga melee boring blandness.
>No females
Makes sense, since they'd have to actually have a fucking unique character. Or Lyn.

>Reduced Luma's stamina
Just fucking kill me now.

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RIP Pichu bros.

link?

youtube.com/watch?v=XnETwPJ5Cys
great work user

JUST BUFF THE LOW TIERS AND STOP NERFING TOP TIERS. NERFING A TOP TIER SLIGHTLY DOESN'T STOP THEM FROM BEING HIGH TIER IT JUST SLOWS THE GAME DOWN. BUFF THE FUCKING LOW TIERS.

See you at E3!

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>Incineroar
>Neutral Attack 1: Adjusted the launch distance when hitting with the elbow and made it easier to hit multiple times when continuing with Neutral Attack 2.
>Neutral Attack 2: Made it easier to hit multiple times when continuing with Neutral Attack 3.

Current status?

>Morrigan
>In Smash
Dear lord think of that porn never even considered it due to the obvious censorship she'd have.
>Another waste of a character free slot.
Noooo

>Pichu reverted to joke character status

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Fuck that pichu and Olimer were cancer

>Essentially just increased all self-damage Pichu does to himself
>The reason Pichu is S tier is because of extremely low endlag for all his moves plus rage makes him deal even more damage
>All this did was make him get his rage faster
This update was almost perfect but it feels like the team doesn't quite understand the point of Pichu.

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pac-man is good though

I just want them to fix ridley's shitty recovery

i wish morrigan got in, banjo and her would be 10/10 for me

Dumbass

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Pac-Man is literally perfect as is and needs no changes.

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Ridleymain here.
His recovery is decent, what needs to be changed is his weight class. That's literally it. Also buff his dair as well.

Just keep buffing low tier characters until they fuck off

MMOs are expensive to make and support, yet are a niche genre.

That said though, I bet a VR MMO with decent gameplay would do very well. VR owners are few but they're very willing to give new games a try, and I bet at least a third of them have seen Sword Art Online and wondered what it'd be like in real life.

still low tier

Free... Bury....?

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He's easier to hit now you fucking idiot.

full?

>Both conveniently the most discussed characters for Smash

I've grown so tired of their discussion, I'd actually prefer if they didn't get in, as well as Steve.

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youtu.be/-WpnPSChVRQ?t=1m3s

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Wtf they literally nerfed all my fucking mains fuck this shit game. They expect me to main Olimar after this shit holy shit

they're the most discussed because they're likely

Calm down Dabuz you hairy motherfucker.

>erdricucks still think their sword gohan will be in smash
Cute

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Learn the matchup you failed abortion.

MMORPGs are just dipping bird games, it's boring.

>Erdrick leaks half a year in advance
If Erdrick is in then he's the worst kept secret in Smash history

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I have NEVER lost to an Olimar in ultimate. Ever.
He's the one character I can say that about.

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Why the fuck did they buff Diddy

Duck Hunt Nerf
JOKER NERF
D E D E D E B U F F

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RIP Peach and Daisy

Lucario and Captain Falcon shooting up.

Rosalina is slowly coming back to reclaim her throne.

Nobody actually plays him outside of tourneys

Hey stupid.
...
Did you miss something?

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>pirahna plant still garbage

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woah nice. i was thinking about playing Lucario more, now i embrace the yiff.

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>DDD buffs
NEVER
E
V
E
R

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dumb dedede poster late as always

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Who /untouched/ here

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>nerfed

It's all good. I can still combo like crazy.

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Buffs for the Boy from Nowhere

>Only for CPU vs CPU matches
>Okay you can do P1 vs. CPU BUT THAT'S IT

what even is the point?

Fucking hell the VR is just a glorified 3D.

Given she's always stayed at her top, it was inevitable, even though she's one of the far more technical characters to learn. As long it doesn't affect her too hard and makes her less fun to use. It's harsher for those who are in mid/low tier.

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twitter.com/KokoPiichu/status/1134268440523476994?s=19

PICHU IS FUCKING DEAD

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>no buffs for Sheik
It is over bros

I just want him to be a little bit heavier and fix his damn tail hurtbox. Is that too much to ask Sakurai

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Just bigger ass would do tbqhwymf

>absolutely nothing
I mean I didn't have anything in particular in mind but SOMETHING would have been nice.

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>Pichu builds rage faster now
>now he's dead

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his hurtbox nerf is a bigger nerf than the self-damage. A lot of things that used to whiff on him while standing now hit. His head is bigger

>dropping your main cause of a nerf
Ahahahaha laugh at tierwhores

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>dead
Bitch, that baby rat is going to Hulk out even faster now, you'd better make sure you can survive the onslaught.

Honestly she's easily still top tier. All they did it looks like is toned down her more extreme attributes and she got a nice forward smash buff. Still the best peach in the series

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One of his best tools got nerfed as well with the ftilt nerf.

makes sense when you have to win to make a living

LUCINA COMBO GAME IS BETTER NOW

as much as I love olimar, anyone who plays palutena needs to throw themselves into a dumpster

The flying fuck did they do to pichu???

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Dabuz looks like that sketchy Syrian guy from Spartacus, you can't expect much from him

>sacrificing showers to make a living playing smash bros
pathetic

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WTF BROS. We only had two US Oli mains that did anything at majors. Most Olis couldn't even top 16-32 at majors.

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wolf is actually better now. shine is basically melee tier broken lol

FUCK YES THEY BUFFED BAYO.
I don't know if she's decent yet but the changes sound nice.
Reduced special lag.
Increased WT/WT Bat Within detection duration.
Dash attack might be a kill move now? All sounds great to me.

His combo game is completely untouched. You just have to be mindful of spamming like a scrub. People saying this character is dead don't even understand that what made strong wasn't changed.

>Ridleymain here.
>His recovery is decent

Who could be behind this post?

>untouched
>again
Feels good being both top tier and balanced at the same time.

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i wouldn't say better but he's not boring anymore. he can pull off very flashy combos

It hurt his consistency which was already slipping. He isn't "dead," but he lost footing as "the best" in the game, along with Peach. Neither are going to be bad characters, but they suddenly have to work harder.

Datamining started, "Brave" is in and there are new files referencing the name "Kamui"

Fuck that guy

>>No females
Female Erdrick and Kazooie don't count?

>increased bat within detection
Fuck, I hope the timing is the same.
I love fucking with people that just spam projectiles or nair by just punishing with bat within.

>Kamui
Corrin echo

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Please don't lie, user, and provide some fucking source.

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>there are new files referencing the name "Kamui"
>using Corrin as a base
New Fire Emblem character confirmed

All of the "best" characters were touched anyways. I don't mind having to work harder. I'm just really mad during any fucking patch when social media sites start chanting that a character is dead for any balance they receive.

>A fucking Echo
>Of a fucking FE representative
>History repeating itself with a CLONE of Corrin

Yeah, I'm tired of this.

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so I heard Pac-Man's up Smash got fucked up by mistake? I haven't been able to lab yet. What happened, is it scoop?

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Bat Within detection for Witch Time, not Bat Within in general. Unless you were somehow punishing people with a failed BW WT

>dabuz dropping olimar
those nerfs couldn't have been that damning. So he can't safely spam nearly u punishable smashes. Big deal.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>Villager buffed
I expected nothing, I'm pleasantly surprised

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>Ryu and Ken get big buffs

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Source: my ass

Better then being nerfed I guess.

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Kamui is literally just Corrin's JP name you dipshits

>tier fags

Pichu is more of a high risk high reward character. Pichu mains are gonna drop this character mad fast now.

Pichu mains were already struggling. This is the final nail in the coffin

He's an autistic Olimar main and historically loves playing really lame, safe characters. What else would you expect?

Ken can combo off his down throw at low % its 100% guarantee.

Not really. D smash is still good despite only 3% later and his Up B is actually neglible. His actual loss is his gun.

the hitbox is now the size of a grape and heals 10% if it hits at a certain angle. really odd

>Kamui
BROS?!

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Oh, shit.
I never learned the timing for using witch time to get bat within.
Just using bat within normally.

Don't ask Sakurai since he isn't doing the balancing.

>VR Smash Bros using Nintendo Cardboard
Garbage. Not only is smash not really good for VR, but using the shitty labo VR for it would be totally unbearable.

They should buff your intelligence.

I know dipshit

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He's easier to hit now too so unless you play perfectly eventually you'll get sent flying/

still sounds like being bad but okay

"Brave" is a Fire Emblem class. Sorry boys, it's another FE DLC.

part of me doesn't believe you but the other part is saying that's so random of a statement you might be true

I mean. It's not something you can learn and benefit greatly from. Bat Within is really only useful for breaking people's combos anyway by dodging at the start of an attack. Which can be really helpful.
But I don't think there's a use for triggering Bat Within from WT. It just lets you escape if you're lucky but, if you're using WT you should actually be hoping to trigger WT.
But yeah BW looks cool I guess.

Nice.

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Shut up dipshit

>peach nuked
Feels bad, peachbros

Reminder that Dedede never gets nerfed, he only handicaps his godlike powers to challenge himself like a true noble.

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They just made a high risk, high reward glass cannon more of what he was.

>His hurtbox is now bigger than Pikachus
This I don't get, however.

>tfw I'm a kirby main
Should I just play 64 until the day I die like isai and superboomfan?

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>diddy kong buffed
>bowser jr buffed
thank god.
>pichu nerfed
>olimar nerfed
THANK GOD.

will never happen.

Honestly I just want a VR seamless open world like game where I can setup a private server with, lets say, 50 people and have the game be basically terraria but first person and in VR. I say Terraria, because Terraira has a fuck load more content then something like minecraft.

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retarded faggot. dabuz is based and is going to main rosa now.

>they actually did a god job of balancing this time

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>was already dabbling with the furbait right before the buffs hit
I'm ready to smack down.

>have like 50 replays to convert before i can patch
ah well, i know what im doing tonight. enjoy the new ken, bros

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>K.Rool Up air only thing touched for the king.

I mean... I guess it's still a buff?

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same. I don't use my up smash as often as I should, but I can't complain.

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This ends with me, patch after patch, gradually ascending into godhood.

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>listen here, you little shit

Isn't this Brave shit like 4 months old? Why are people bringing it up now?

Hey this is a pretty good patch
The obnoxious stuff is getting removed and lots of characters are getting overall buffs. I can't think of anything I want other than some remaining characters getting buffs.

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You can't touch her. She's already perfectly balanced.

Did nothing wrong. Only Myran is a fag.

Unironic cope

Balance changes were poorly thought out. There should be small nerfs and big buffs, not the other way around.

Can someone explain how this Amiibo journey stuff works?

>VR
>smash

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>only a minimal buff to usmash
t-thanks sakurai...

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Ken got a lot of buffs this patch. Heavy Shoryuken now actually kills instead of being completely useless when properly DI'd

Who here /trainingtheiramiibos/?
My Doc is gonna kick the shit out of all of your shit amiibos

Here. I was hoping for a fix on his awful dash grab, but Gren's already fantastic in this game, so i'm ok with untouched status. But considering how they fixed multi-hits to be able to hit more consistently, i wish they'd make U-Smash and U-Air more reliable and consistent

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I'm so fucking happy they killed Pichu.

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That's a lot of fucking buffs.

>i'm gonna be one of the only olimar mains
thank god got rid of the faggots who didn't care about pikmin feels fucking good man

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>mfw gave my Fox passive super armor

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When are they going to completely retool Samus so she actually has her Metroid equipment and weapons as her attacks?

True fans will main their favorites no matter what. Godspeed you flowery bastard.

who is this sleep deprived qt

*pays $5*
*wins every game*

heh.................................

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small update: has a small chance of spawning a Beast Ball when it connect. wtf did they do to this move

Anyone who says a character that's fast has good frame data and gets Ganondorf out his ass every time you hit him 3 times isn't busted is retarded.

>Lucina side smash
>Shortened launch distance

Good

>Lucina Fair
>Shortened launch distance

So I'm even MORE likely to get zero-to-death'd at the side blast zone by Fair spam now?

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Dabuz is a based autist who is excited about testing out Rosa changes.
Meanwhile Myran is a faggot crying on twitter that everyone didn't like Olimar's broken upsmash that's still reasonably broken.

they just made it so the two hits don't connect as well and now sometimes a beast ball will spawn when it's used which seems to be a glitch

How do you all feel about these two now? Still think they're broken or are fine with them now?
Still think they're the best overall or will someone take their place now?

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Olimar and Pichu are shit now but none of the other nerfs/buffs really did anything

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Please tell me Ridley got buffs goddamn.

>Can only train amiibos once a day

WHAT
THE
FUCK
SAKURAI

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not a single change to him

Nah they got straight nerfs. They're A tier instead of S+. F-air nerf makes me a little sad

>buffing greninja's u-air
that sounds delicious

Fuck off Nintendo, I've literally not played since Piranha Plant got released because it's absolutely criminal how shit it is
Patch after patch they do fuck all to it, literally 90% of piranha plants moves need lower end lag. Period. They're all too slow.

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Dumbass

falcon feels a lot better

Fighting this guy as Ganon is torture.
.

>A

Pichu and Olimar got hit much harder. I'd say the princesses are still top 5 easily

>Unga Bunga top tiers getting nerfed
>Jab buff
Great time to be a Snake player

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back to resetera faggot

>nerfing dacunt

Why? He needs an aerial buff if anything, he's too fucking floaty.

I feel like if Woomy was gonna be nerfed she would have been already by now, I think she's fairly safe

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As a joker main I wouldn't mind if meter gain gets toned down in a future patch.
Grappling hook is his better recovery anyway and being forced to make clutch off stage plays to secure kills is fun

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Will all the Pichu players take up Pikachu?

>diddy is top tier again
we did it bros

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I have no reason at all to be posting this webm.

Gawk at it anyway, FUCKERS.

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HOO-HAH IS BACK

THIS IS NOT A DRILL

ZERO OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED HE'S OUT OF RETIREMENT

I REPEAT THIS IS NOT A DRILL

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I hope they weren't stupid enough to leave 2nd character pack spoilers in the game considering the announcement in 2 weeks.

My Captain Falcon spiked the shit out of a lobby and caused the leader to close said lobby.

No, Pikachu actually requires commitment and has to work for his KO's

>oh no I can't get free kills anymore this character sucks now!

Prepare to see way more Snakes in Tournies now. Theres already enough of them, but now it gonna be ridiculous

There is no fucking VR for the switch FFS. You're just putting the damn thing 2inch away from your face.

So... how's VR?

>Sakurai pls

Remember, Sakurai thinks the game is perfectly balanced.

fuck off wind slash

You only get to watch CPUs play, and only on certain stages built for the angles.

>that peanut camping

this is cool
camping projectiles is boring, but going in with them and using them to create setups is really fun and interesting to both use and play against
thank you for posting

No. They where only playing him cause he was top tier.

Only one man stayed true to his furry waifu.

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Is this a joke or are you being serious?

>Every patch either DK or Bowser get a buff

BANANA SLAMMA

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God fucking dammit fuck the balance team right in the ass with a broken shard of glass.

I have no reason to post this webm but i'll still do it then

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Kill yourself and die.

>fight one of these dick-sucking tier whore Jokers 10 matches in a row to figure out how he works
>I catch him misfiring and punish, he gets his fedora of Ganondorf powers after 3 hits and gets a free stock
>every single time it comes down to 1 stock vs. 1 stock, same percentage
>his entire play style is brainless aggression, throwing out moves that are too fast to punish
>everything he does is safe on shield
>you cant keep him away or zone like a faggot
>his homosex activated good reads now do more damage than Ridley and he has it constantly
>he's in my face constantly, trying to grab or break shield (again: all his shit is fucking safe except maybe dash attack)
>uses his B to interrupt disjoints, projectiles, aerials
>floats back to the stage because his recovery is the most free shit in the universe, cant edge guard him (but he'll easily edge guard me)
>my options are: a hail mary long-endlag high damage move, or him somehow being dumb enough to get grabbed
>neither happen
>after throwing him around and evading him for 2 minutes he touches me with any of his single-digit frame attacks
>die
>this patch buffed him
>my fucking face when

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why do people blame Sakurai on something he isn't involved with (balancing)

>vr
Please. This is shameful

Remember, the balance team makes adjustments based on what they see in elite smash. These stupid fuckers are balancing based on online play. just fucking watch gook tournaments you dumb fucks

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I'm convinced the devs only added this character as an ironic punishment for the years of obnoxious begging.

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MATOI RYUUKO CONFIRMED

>the absolute state of Myran

Have they yet fixed it where auto-playing the next replay keeps the fucking UI off if you turned it off in the previous replay?

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WTF are you talking about? He controls balance, he controls everything.

nintendosoup.com/sakurai-repeats-that-goku-will-not-appear-in-the-super-smash-bros-series/

Diddy Kong is good now. His up-b actually works now and his up air doesn't have much lag anymore. This is what he needed, now he can edgeguard and safely rack up damage.

You mad goy? Pay up and win :^)

The most annoying thing about this piece of shit is that Arsen makes seeing what he's actually doing hard as shit, fuck off with the visual obfuscation.

>be puff main
>taunts banned online
>use sing as a taunt instead
Any other Puff mains do this?

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You say this but there is no way in hell Olimar or Peach were anywhere near close enough to common enough to get the treatment they did this patch. Likewise, Mac is a popular online character, and so are heavies. They aren't solely balancing around online, it looks like

>They patched out the Super Cyclone
That's disappointing, but at least they finally fixed his grab range.

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Sakurai did just that. He's argued with fans for 4 games stating "he's too big" but then adds him in and stats because of fan demand.

I mean, RoB, G&W, 4 marths, 8ish pokemon, and fucking palutena were added in before Ridley.

That's a retarded way to see things. K. Rool is also pretty fucking shit. Does this mean the devs were pissed people wanted him?

>Snake jab 1 to uptilt is now a true combo
Lel

Yes, the book. He doesn't mention anything there about him doing the balancing.

nintendosoup.com/sakurai-on-balancing-characters-in-super-smash-bros-ultimate/

Nintendo is upset you gaijin won't waste your monthly tugboats on Fire Emblem Gacha. Enjoy your favorites being inferior to them in Smash Bros.

No fuckface, I have deep breathing and sun salutation to charge up during that downtime.

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Just take refuge in the fact that even if he remains bottom tier forever, Ice Climbers Kirby will still be the cutest.

So if Ridley players start playing Elite more and failure ng miserably he may get touched? Cause I just fucking now we'll get to the last dlc update and Send idley will get shit fuck all or nerfed. At this point I just assume I'm gonna be pissed every damned patch. I was looking forward to him getting anything but not a damned thing.

Any chance 4.0 will have more balance changes?

>not crouching to the beat of the music

PLEASE TELL ME YOU'RE JOKING
WHERE IS THE PROOF OF THIS UNHOLY CLAIM

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Sheik is trash. I don't even recognize her anymore

>playing the Little Mac of Ultimate

What does his post have anything to do with your boogieman?

>So if Ridley players start playing Elite more and failure ng miserably he may get touched?
Maybe, maybe not. We don't know how the balance team adjusts things.
The Little Mac of Ultimate is Little Mac.

they actually nerfed wolf's blaster? about damn time.

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t. buttblasted pichu main

Good luck successfully handling the network code for a fantasy MMO that wants to use motion controls.

???

I'd think that's the case but Ridley's kit is solid it just needs things like frame data, air speed, etc. All things that could easily be fixed in a patch.

Ryu stole his buffs.

and they buffed his shine too which is good

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Yea Forums, post:
>your main
>which character do you find least fun to play against

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>Main
Bayo
>Least fun to play against
Wolf? Pichu? Any faggy top tier really.

jesus i'd forgotten how good scarf lard is at smash despite the fact that he barely plays ultimate. his diddy is sick

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Is Kirby the worst character in the game now? It seems like he was the only character in the supposed bottom five to not get anything. Tried playing him online again after the patch and he's as miserable to play as ever, if not worse now that a lot of characters got buffs. I'm this close to dropping him until he gets some major buffs because minor ones aren't going to fix this dumpster fire of a character.

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He needs to be Bowser size

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ok is it just ear hitboxes or did they legit size pichu up?

>Doc
>Overly campy zoning players
I kind of play everyone through FFAs & Friendlies at the end of the day, so I know most if not all zoners are better than what these players are doing with them: They all have options to capitalize more aggressively and in your face on the opponent's mistakes, sometimes with more efficiency than just zoning more & more. It's frustrating to watch, and it's not fun to play against. Players completely aside, I really don't like fighting Ike.

Holy fuck.

His ears used to not have hotboxes at all i think

Wait, so Plant is actually bottom tier? I’ve been crushing my friends with him and they seem to be playing real characters (Ness, Yoshi, Donkey Kong, Jigglypuff).

what? read the patch notes again you blind faggot

That's it? This is what everyone's screaming doom and gloom over?

>Main
Woomy

Annoying to fight
Young Link, literally, fucking LITERALLY constant projectile barrage.

>DDD
>DDD

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I think Plant, Mac & K.Rool are worse than him. Mac may have gotten buffs but he still gets fucked by platform camping. To what extent his buffs will help, we don't know, but I'm doubtful he'll be that much better. Plant & K.Rool got practically nothing and are much worse than Kirby in that they just can't throw out moves: Both of these have their whole moveset be commitments. Kirby can at least throw out moves.

There are two character in Smash I am not sad to see fall into the gutter and those are Yoshi and Olimar.

Fuck any faggot who plays them. They are always faggots. Prove me wrong.

>>your main
dong
>>which character do you find least fun to play against
belmonts

>main
Donkey Kong
>least fun to play against
I don't really have one yet, oddly enough. Usually it's swordies like Marth, but none of my friends play swordies well enough in this game for me to be annoyed by them.

One of my friends mains Olimar and it's definitely annoying to deal with, but it's also satisfying when I beat the shit out of him. I zero-to-deathed him once as Kong and it was the best thing ever.

>Yoshi
You were being aggressive? Nah bro lemme just mash Nair since it comes out on frame -3 and hits literally fucking everywhere

that's what she said haha gottem

>Main
WFT

>Most annoying matchup
Any of the swordies will just outclass you at most anything. I have to rely on header a lot and that's not fun for either of us.

Also Jiggs is kinda annoying as WFT doesn't have a good way to swat her when she's just floating over you. Every Jiggs match-up makes me wish I was playing Ike or somebody that can just up smash and be done with it.

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based gentlemanly duels

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Ridley won't get shit for buffs no matter how many updates there are, will he?

>Main Isabelle
>Hate fighting good Snakes

Are you literally me? Young Link players are the worst, espically with those fucking fire arrow spammers. Toon Link or the original doesn’t even come as close as annoying.

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I'm happy that the majority of the cast is viable but I really hope that next patch they focus on buffing some characters that obviously need changes, it seems like almost everybody is good except for a select few that are just unusable. I hate seeing middle of the road characters get buffs while bottom tiers either get totally ignored or buffs that don't help the character in any meaningful way. I tried to play Pirahna Plant and just couldn't get into it, but I thought I just wasn't getting it. Really seems like there wasn't a lot of thought put into the character, a lot of their moves don't really seem to synergize.

>corrin
>the electric rats and sonic

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>>your main
Too hard, top 3 are Ridley, Dark Samus, and Joker
>>which character do you find least fun to play against
Fuck Palutena so fucking hard

So did Olimar really get overnerfed like all the big players are saying or are they just salty bitches?
The up-b nerf seems unnecessary at least.

>Main
Pic related
>Least fun to play against
Basically anyone who knows what they are doing.

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Oh fuck I completely forgot about Yoshi, FUCK Yoshi. Yoshi is a complete bitch ass mother fucker.

YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS
I just play with him and it feels much better now
CAPTAIN CHADCON IS BACK

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>Kirby
>Any of the swordies are a pain in my ass, much more than any of the top tiers. Joker is also annoying to fight sometimes, especially when they can get two Arsene powerups in one stock.

He's just dodging your taxes IRL

olimar main here he feels the same

He could go underneath nearly every stage on a whim. I don't know if the current one will be considered excessively bad now, but why the fuck should any character be able to do that in disadvantage?

Why are people acting like peach got gutted? She still has the best combo potential in the game and has a bunch of kill options even without fair or side b. She's worse but she's definitely not a tier worse.

the upb nerf is whats going to hurt the most but outside all of the other nerfs aren't going to harm olimar that much. He still has a great projectile and camping game. They just made it harder for him to recover. This really hits him hard as his recovery wasnt that great before hand. Whether its warranted or not is up for debate but I think it is.

>your main
ridley
>which character do you find least fun to play against
ddd. young link and samus are pretty bad too

>Isabelle/Simon
>Wolf, Pichu, Ness, Cloud

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>main
Ike, but might drop him for DK or Falco
>least fun to play against
Da Cunt or Olimar. I don't mind zoners in general and really enjoy playing the Belmonts, but those two seem to attract the most low-energy keepaway players who never approach.

still trash as seen in smash 4

Considering how shit he was before, this is a good thing.

Well at least you get paired up with other shitters, right?

Nah, fuck them. These are people who claim a tilt-speed usmash not being advantage on block and not comboing into itself ruins the character.

And those near infinite free movement recoveries need to be dealth with, all of them.

I have nothing against fighting Yoshi, but Yoshi Players are always the most insufferable cunts.

Highest I’ve gotten her is ~4.1m GSP, you have to focus and dig deep every single match but it’s possible

>Ness
>Link/Belmont/Ike

His final smash will be buffed again :^)

In any smash game, the worst are characters that simply never have to approach ever, followed by hurrr superarmor. If you ever had to fight a Pacman who hydrant camped and would upB OoS away in Smash 4, this is fucking suffering. Or a really campy sonic in the same game.

>lag and input delay out the ass
SCRUBS GET OUT ALREADY

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>main
olimar
>least fun to play against
cloud. joker.

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>Main
Greninja

>Least fun matchup
Snake. A shame because Metal Gear is my favorite game series.

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>Can't nerf Joker or no one will buy him

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it's pretty significant desu

I don't play anymore because Isabelle was too miserable to play with, but I'm not sure if the change to her fishing rod was a buff or a nerf. Seems insignificant enough to not pick the game back up regardless though.

Isn't he shit until he has Arsene which only lasts for like 15 seconds?

>>your main
Dark Samus
>>which character do you find least fun to play against
It's not really about characters for me so much as playstyles. That said.
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Seriously why are all the cancer projectiles on side-special

How so?