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I haven't been involved in DnD rpgs in a while but I hope all the hearsay in the (previous) thread about settings being injected with shitty SJW influence is just typical Yea Forums shitposting. I just want cookie cutter fantasy stories about mortals, demi-gods and dragonslaying, not any of that this character is a bisexual half-orc transgender bard nonsense
Hopefully there won't be stuff such as Lone Wolf, that shit made both DOS games too easy.
Anthony Sanders
>bg3 >larian disgusting
Jeremiah Anderson
Reminder that it will use a swine game as it’s base instead of sticking to AD&D rule set and should not be played. But if you absolutely must, then at least pirate it.
Matthew Taylor
ty beamdog i will now buy your enhanced editions
Austin Powell
>Play pretend >too old for video games though
Ryan Brown
Divinity OS 1 and 2 are unironically better than any of these old boomer rpgs, larian will only make it better
Zachary Flores
The last thing we need is Larian butchering Baldur's Gate legacy even more after that enhanced edition bullshit. They should have stayed contained in their shitty Divinity franchise.
Isaiah Nguyen
>too old for vidya This doesn't happen. They just lost interest.
Luke Morgan
yawn. i'd care if a real studio like atlus or falcom was making it instead.
Jordan Roberts
Yes, as a prop on a wall, called "Painting of a pig". 250 gold at the vendor.
Fallout and Arcanum would be better/as good as DOS if only they had full party control, what a shame.
Elijah Walker
I hope not. His story is complete. His arc was satisfying and finished. No need to continue it.
Anthony Jones
It actually can happen. As you get older your eyes get worse at tracking movement and this can lead to motion sickness in certain games. Maybe not isometric RPGs but first person games become unplayable. Even Doom can make real boomers physically sick.
Jace Flores
In my country's Facebook D&D page they're always arranging groups
I'm 30 and I'm the youngest of our group We have a guy who is 37, 39, 42 and a 55 year old woman with a son my age
D:OS is kino in the best Hollywood tradition of endless plot twists and an endlessly escalating climax to a degree that you didn't even think was possible. Those games leave you exhausted and with a feeling that you've just experienced something epic. Larian are the azor ahai among the possible BG-revival devs.
Ian Gomez
I hope not. Would just come off as fan servicey most likely. David Warner is still working amazingly enough, so it’s possible and if the writing isn’t shit it would be great. But the odds of it being done well are extremely low.
Jackson Peterson
Gimme another Dark Alliance so I can play jew jackrabbit with my friends
Parker Sullivan
Sven shitting on biodrones and obsidiniggers
Luke Ross
faaag
Noah Reed
Divinity: OS was pretty good in the combat department but only because it diverges in a lot of ways from the mold of traditional WRPGs like Baldur's Gate.
The risk here is that they will combine shitty old D&D-based combat with Larian's reddit-tier writing and end up with no redeeming features.
Christopher Martin
>Larian So, atrocious art style and absolute garbage OC RPG ruleset? No thanks. I'll just replay the IE games again instead of giving money to this garbage eurojank studio.
Josiah Martin
Sounds comfy.
I love Divinity OS 1 and 2 but lets not pretend like they don't have their own problems. Remember how broken the AOE abilities could get?
Only CRPG I've played is D:OS2 and I really liked it but sometimes I felt like a fucking retard when I had to resort to googling a solution or something
Am I too brainlet for Baldur's Gate Also can I play 2 before 1
Ryder Flores
Larian can be surprisingly good at different gameplay styles though. Diablo bores me out of my mind but somehow these Belgoids managed to make the same kind of gameplay entertain me in Divine Divinity.
The fact that they're all real time with pause bullshit is enough to know they don't use a proper system.
Adrian Perry
>t. Obsidian tranny
Hunter King
You are a brainlet. Game gets really easy even on insane after you know what to do.
Parker Parker
Spoken like a scrub who hasn't even cleared BG1
Jacob Allen
oh look the illuminati are dragging out another one of my beat-to-death "beloved ip's" to get me to worship satan by proxy. nice try. i'm christpilled now, miss me with that devil shit. call me when they make a game about spreading the gospel and dabbing on unbelievers.
Landon Harris
>turn based instead of rtwp >Larian humor It's gonna be shit.
Angel Sanchez
I hope they make it turnbased, rtwp is probably the worst combat system that exists.
Lincoln Martin
I've just finished playing both DOS games and I saw no traces of forced SJWism.
Dominic Cooper
Larian already made two GOTY's in a row and DOS 2 is the best CRPG ever made. If this absolutely mad men won't stop they'd be considered new Troika games.
Alright so I'm just going to subscribe to the idea that not even you think this is Baldur's Gate 3 since you clearly have no interest defending your side and simply want to talk about Baldur's Gate but couldn't think of any new and exciting way to do so.
Ryder Phillips
Ah yes, what else to do in a medieval fantasy setting than to navel gaze all day about what it truly means to be a man or a woman or whether gender is merely an outdated societal construct
lol larianiggers know nobody cares about this game so they are creating fake hype about some baldur's gate 3 imaginary scenario
enjoy your failing company
Hudson Martin
>it's like 2001 >I'm 14 and playing my first RPG >enter Nashkel >'hurr surrve the flamen fyist' >real vibrant atmosphere, I'm having fun >enter the inn >helmet lady smack-talks me >I puff up cause I just cleared all those bandits and am liek lez do this >she proceeds to cast entangle, hitting everyone, then spiritual hammer, and permadeathing my party 1 by 1 with dat blunt dmg
I'll probably remember till my dying day
Liam Myers
You have to be so incredibly far in denial to even consider this dude. You know how hard they'd get sued for using the WoTC, D&D, and Baldur's Gate names without permission in a marketing campaign like this?
Samuel Cook
>can't even shit on them like you could generally shit on anyone
Jason Perez
Obsidiots and Beamniggers ABSOLUTELEY BTFOd Biodrones on suicide watch
Were getting a DnD game thats actually fucking good, cant believe it. Man i dont even know what im more excited about, the game or the fucking salt. All of that time that CRPG grognards worshipped their WORDS WORDS WORDS RTWP trash , and now they are getting a fucking DnD Larian game, and they are going to like it, because these drones cannot NOT buy a Baldurs Gate game.
>"It may be a touch unladylike, but I'm going to slit your throat, I am."
Brandon Rodriguez
Most people don't know he exists cause he was a secret character like Wilson in BG2EE.
Landon Allen
so what's the best way to play BG1 and 2? I heard the Enhanced Editions are shit, is that true?
Asher Mitchell
Take this last (You) and don't spend it all in one place.
Kevin Green
Those barks were the best >My 'otel's as clean as an elven arse
Caleb Adams
You don't like it, you bigot? Are you transphobic or something? Fucking Trump voter. Die.
Jaxon Adams
You can either mod them into becoming like the EEs or just play the EEs and ignore the donutsteels, it's whatever.
Angel Gutierrez
>no source
Cooper Smith
>story ended with everyone in your party going on to live their lives as scarred broken individuals at the peak of their respective careers. >CHARNAME is literally a god This is unfollowable, therefor it HAS to be a new story. And that means it shouldn't be called Baldur's gate 3.
Jose Sullivan
If it's an actual DnD ruleset and no OC shit then I'll definitely give this a try.
Noah Jones
Jokes on you I am a libertarian leaf living in Ireland.
Julian Martin
While the bisexual half-orc is an unlikable cunt, him being bisexual has nothing to do with him being the worst party member.
Nathaniel Price
Only a child could be this bad at arguing. Get back to your homework, kid.
Xavier Wilson
why strawman so hard?
Isaac Gomez
play Champions of Norrath and LOTR War in the North, same company virtually identical gameplay, more different classes
Josiah Murphy
>Baldur's Gate The favorite game of idiots all around the world?
Jack Torres
A divinity 3 with DnD rulesets would be a dream game come true.
Justin Harris
I hope if it has party banter it is good. Banter in some recent rpgs didn't feel good to me
John Myers
Baldurs gate is a shit serie only neckeards with huge nostalgia goggles think they're relevant games. Sad to see Larian waste their time and money on this, i thought they were done with licensed stuff.
Hudson King
OC Larian ruleset would be vastly superior to DnD, especialy if its DnD 5E which is notoriously boring, beeing basically a watered down version of 3.5, getting rid of the bloat, but not of the jank. Unpopular opinion: There deserved to be a proper 4E video game, not that shitty MMO we got.
Jason Baker
What if they're actually making Half Life 3?
Matthew Myers
>WotC currently merging anything it can get it's hands on with 5e This is 100% going to use the 5e ruleset
There are literal spells that can change your gender in that universe, there is no reason for trans people to even exist within the logic of it's own setting.
Brody James
All 4E "deserves" is a nuclear holocaust.
Kayden Walker
have a pity (You) on me
Nathan Gutierrez
Waterdeep: Dragon Heist. Page 172: Chapter 9. There is also a tranny elf with preferred pronouns "they/them" that throws a tantrum when "misgendered". And a male-to-female drow that runs away from evil transphobic drow kin. And don't get me started on the new "politically correct" Elven origin story in Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes.
Gabriel Cox
First of all, the only thing 4E "deserves" is a nuclear holocaust, second of all, I hope they keep the spirit of 5E but change the underlying system to be more fun
Robert Cooper
Ed Greenwood has Andel Adrian, Horizon's Ward, rejecting his father's divine essence. He then returns to Baldur's Gate and becomes the most powerful Duke in the city. Years later the teleporting Bhaalspawn shows up to kill him in a module. Whether he succeeds or not, the last surviving Bhaalspawn turns into the Ravager. When the Ravager dies Bhaal is reborn. There's no way this is the Bhaalspawn's story.
Dominic Brooks
But how else would they virtue signal to the rainbow squad?
Hudson Ramirez
wake up, sheeple, western gaming is dead. All the glossy trends have tired themselves out. Now is the hour of the grognard.
Hunter Gonzalez
Beamdog added a ton of shit that absolutely no one asked for and managed to launch the remaster with a ton of bugs. They pulled the originals from retail when they realised people were buying them instead of their expensive rehash of an ancient game. If you can download the originals from somewhere else then I'd say go for that, or just play another CRPG instead. I bought the Enhanced Edition off of Steam a few years ago, and I regret spending money on it.
Justin Hernandez
Use Roll20, dumbass
Lincoln Flores
That's Abdel, not Andel.
Landon Flores
lol iq morcels actually believe this insane story about bg3 that op and his band of swindlemen keep repeating in order to bump this thread
Matthew Stewart
As opposed to...
Jaxson Mitchell
EEs have some advantages. In one of the recent versions, they made multiclass kits possible for example. So if you use mods for classes and stuff, there are some pretty good mods for it
Cameron Morales
Cool double post. Either way, the problems with 4E are all linked to the fact that it was basically designed like a video game, with way the fuck too many status effects and available skills for people to keep track of while still keeping the game going at a reasonable pace, and not having a whole lot of "utility" options for roleplay that couldn't be strictly systematized. None of 4E's weaknesses would be present in a video game, while all of it's strengths could be allowed to really shine.
Asher James
>managed to launch the remaster with a ton of bugs Irrelevant.
How the fuck is it irrelevant that a developer fucks up their product when they can't take fixes from mods and have to do their own work?
Hunter Reed
It's not a double post tho
Gavin Taylor
Hope it is turn based.
Hudson Campbell
What's the source material for level 30+ rules?
Nicholas Flores
>Charisma 8 yikes
Carson Cook
The originals were fucking loaded with bugs that were only fixed by mods.
David Adams
unironically blessed
Christian Sanders
>3Eabooo you got your wish already, and 5E is blatantly unfun. But you now what? When you ask anyone what their favorite martial class in 5E is, they are going to say Battlemaster Fighter.
And lets face it, you have to change 5E to be fun as a videogame. Half of the wizard stuff doesnt realy work without a DM because its situational, and Martials probably dont work in a RTWP system. Unless you want every single character to be a polearm tunnelfighter because thats the only way a melee character is actually stop an enemy from doing crap. That of course is if it is RTWP, i dont think a single game has solved the RTWP issue where attacks are turn based while spells and movement is real time, making locking down enemies basically impossible.
Isaiah Phillips
Is that character basically immortal?
Tyler Thomas
As long as they're not writing it
Kevin Mitchell
BG2 is my favorite game of all time, but I don't want a sequel. The game ended perfectly, and Siege of Dragonspear was complete garbage anyway.
Yes, they were. But Beamdog advertised with 600+ bugs fixed and charged twice the amount for each game than the original. But for every bug Beamdog 'fixed' a new bug was found.
Jacob Young
No. Jon Bitch has no friends, he died once irl and a second time in hell.
Samuel Jackson
Yes I tanked Ascension Insane Tactics Melissan outregening her DPS until rest of my party deposited of the five. Dwarven defender is an insanely fun class to play, he shorty saving throws on top of your natural stats and defensive stance make you an immovable rock.
wait, so you actually explored dungeons without the two polar bears and the fire elemental that were all 8-hour duration spells? Maybe I should give it a try myself.
Robert Brooks
people didnt like 4E because of the layout and because they couldnt convert characters from previous editions (all other editions were, mostly, compatiable) Its not like 3.X doesnt have a lot to keep track of. But yes, most of 4Es problems (the lenghty ass combat) are basically solved by it beeing a video game. While most of its problems (very little support for simulationism) are irrelevant when you dont even have a DM.
Liam Myers
The ending is like ME3 except two options instead of three.
Cameron Russell
So what’s with Baldurs gate and why people like it so much?
Luis Hill
There aren't any bugs now you dipshit. Get Bioware's cock out of your mouth.
Lincoln Butler
i too exclusiveley focus on summoning as many rabid dire ferrets as humanly possible.
William Gonzalez
its the greatest cRPG ever made and the best sequel of all time. btw, you mirin?
What does bioware has to do with beamdog being shit?
Owen Reyes
Its an RPG for Boomers based on DnD back when DnD wasnt cool yet. Also it had romances and shit.
Anthony Lopez
wow, hopefully every ending is equally shit this time too.
Easton Nguyen
Not really. There are 3 options. Good, bad and "fuck you guys, I'm going home". It depends on the choices you've made in the game. The endings for companions also change depending on your choices. Like Sarevok and Viconia becoming good guys.
Jack Davis
post it
Oliver Thompson
To this day I do not get the fascination with this studio. DOS 2 was gutter trash.
>it's great Never heard why exactly it's great, though.
Liam Roberts
Didn't Beamdog get Gaider to work on a new BG game?
Landon Hall
>original games are full of game breaking bugs that never get fixed by the devs >"oh it's fine originals are a classic they great" >new releases are initially full of bugs that are initially patched out >"YOU SHOULD NEVER PLAY THE EE'S THEY'RE BUGGY AS SHIT" Pretty fucking dumb.
Caleb Thompson
Yeah. He got cucked by one Amber "everything I write is political" Scott of Paizo fame in the role of lead writer. So, he got hired by Beamdog, did fuck all, wrota a few tweets and was fired. That was Gaider's contribution to Beamdog.
He's a fag anyway so they were better off without him.
Brody Foster
the entire saga is the very epitome of a great adventure, an incredibly competent dnd campaing of a from rags to riches story with memorable characters, locations, items, companions, enemies, bosess...its simple, stright forward, it doesnt try to be more than it is and succeeds at what it sets out to be, a game capable of creating a feeling of a grand adventure with focus on exploration, deeply tactical combat, party interactions, and trasure hunting. its an unmatched timeless classic with irreplicable athmosphere. ive replayed it probably a hundred times and will continue to do so until something better comes along. so far it hasnt.
A lot of it is nostalgia. BG2 is highly regarded, but it's arguably the weakest part story-wise, while being horribly broken gameplay wise.
It's a classic Bioware trilogy: First game sets up the story, second game has nothing to do with the story, third game (BG2's expansion) is a sequel to the first game.
It was released at a perfect point in time for computer rpgs, a time where pc gaming was taken seriously both by developers and pc gamers themselves.
Isaiah Bennett
good combat , best loots in any game I have played , good story/voice acting , lots of content
Evan Thompson
What you just said is so stupid I feel genuinely embarrassed for you.
Kayden Allen
Fighter/Cleric or Paladin?
Lincoln Phillips
Just because BG2's story doesn't really progress the bhaalspawn theme doesnt mean it's the weakest part story-wise. I'd say its the opposite. Throne of Bhaal was obviosuly rushed; BG2 is has a very compelling story with a strong, imposing villain far more notorius than Sarevok or Melly, and far more memorable plotline. It has nothing to do with nostalgia, BG2 is every bit as good as it was back then, it's an exemplary sequel that improves on every shortcoming fo the prdecessor and goes even further. It's very close to perfection it that regard at least.
Owen Thompson
F/C multiclass. Paladins are shit outside of Inquisitors and the game already has Keldorn and he has an awesome armor only he can use.
Justin Roberts
Maybe, but who would want to play a follow up to one of the many eurojank 3D RPGs that all got murdered in the wake of Morrowind and Oblivion?
Michael Fisher
CRPG from the era where DnD inspired games were hot shit. Since it's an almost twenty year old game a lot of people have fond memories of it and its usage as a reference point after the somewhat recent resurgence of the genre has probably helped solidify it as THE crpg In truth it's dated as shit. Many of the new crpgs released in the last five years have had mediocre sales/success because they attempted to be as close to the original game(s) and often neglected two decades worth of quality of life, interface improvements and general design decisions for the sake of attempting to preserve the same feel. Original sin 2 (and to an extent Original Sin 1) were successful because Larian at least attempted to make a year 2010 game instead of a year 2000 game which meant implementing voice acting, removal of vancian casting, optional multiplayer/coop and other things the current generation of players might be interested in
Joseph Ortiz
Baeloth is the best character to come out of the EEs
Asher Carter
offical BG power ranking
ELDER GOD TIER >CLERIC/RANGER >KENSAI/MAGE
GOD TIER >KENSAI/THIEF >BERSERKER/MAGE >INQUSITOR
HIGH TIER >SORCERER >FIGHTER/THIEF >DWARVEN DEFENDER
BG2's weak point narratively speaking is that Imoen gets abducted right off the bat and instead of the story rushing to rescue her, you get to explore Amn, grind XP and do a billion side quests completely ignoring the fate of your sister and dearest childhood friend. There doesn't seem to be a sense of urgency and if it weren't for Irenicus and Imoen appearing in your dreams you'd probably forget about their plotline too
Gavin Howard
>including literal broken shit Bad move friend.
Lincoln Collins
what if its a prequel featuring Viconia whoring herself through Amn?
You think we'll get romances this time around? If so, calling dibs on potential drow waifu. If possible of Eilistraee-following variety.
Xavier Gomez
Irenicus was a shit villain that only worked because everyone around him was retarded. His saving grace is good voice acting and good line delivery. The amount of actual connection and development between the villain and the hero is so loose and so little, it feels like you are following Irenicus because the game tells you so, never because your character would have any incentive to do it.
The number of scenes where the player character actually learns anything about or interacts with Irenicus can be counted on one hand. The player gets to know him a little better through cutscenes, but never the player character.
Juan Reyes
youre well within your right not to give a shit about imoen, she's not even your real sister. you dont even know you're related in any way whatsoever until you meet again at the asylum
Leo Parker
Viconia is not a whore. She's pure and sweet. She just has trouble showcasing that part of her.
Jaxon Ramirez
No, it doesn't. You really should try playing it.
Jackson Morris
Man i tried OS1 and hated it. Combat was a slog and the game was filled with too many "gotchas" for my liking. Seemed like the entire game was based around you quicksaving all the time. Is the second one really that much better?
Zachary Harris
You can't go rescuing her on your own, you need allies. To get those allies, you need a lot of capital. To get that money, you have to go adventuring. If you weren't retarded this would be obvious.
Easton Rivera
>Is the second one really that much better? No. OS1 is unironically a better game than OS2. Storyfags will try to convince you otherwise but the gameplay itself is the same as the first game except it's dumbed down.
Angel Howard
To me it's a good game, with a scope that's impressive enough to force its way into being great. Adapting a D&D campaign to a video game with triple-A production quality is so impressive, that nobody came close to recreating the feat until Owlcat Games just recently.
Noah Price
This. Remember that Larian thinks pic related is funny.
I am excited but not so much for the months on end of Kiddinity poster complaining about shit.
Ryan Price
Yes. I disliked OS1. The tone and story was all over the place, quests were obtuse as fuck, puzzles were bullshit, combat was sometimes off the wall. DO:S 2 fixes most of it. It actually tells a coherent story with some likeable companions, puzzles and quests make more sense and combat is a bit more balanced. This bizarre armor system kinda detracts from combat o higher difficulties, but nothing's perfect.
Oliver Ross
but thats wrong. that's the entire beauty of this dynamic. when you start off, you're nothing to ireniucs. you're a lvl 7 insect that only serves his singular purpose. he pays you no mind until you start pestering him further and further as you become stronger and more capable. you develop your strength with your many adventures and quests throuhout amn and you eventually become an even match to what is essentially one of the strongest spellcasters in faerun. this is the essence of the story and its realized beautifully. you're not meant to be rivals on equal ground. he's a demigod who could desintegrate you on his whim at the very beginning, only to find you capable of defeating him at the end. i absolutely adored this trope
Brandon Phillips
I'd love to see Outer Worlds release in a similar time-frame to see him go into overdrive
Daniel Fisher
>not Divinity 3 Well fuck.
Redpill me on BG then.
Connor Allen
I sure as hell don't want to be seduced by anything with an orc cock
Ryan Morales
>This bizarre armor system kinda detracts from combat o higher difficulties Here we see a brainlet in his natural habitat
>Being hyped about anything Baldur's Gate related after the fucking Enhanced Edition Unironically kys.
James Baker
DnD CRPG worhsipped by nostalgia fags. its gonna be a 5E ruleset, knowing larian theres a chance it wont be RTWP so maybe decent. as for Divinity, theres a spinoff of OS2 coming which is basically OS2: Xcom. And Larian significantly expanded its studio and are probably working on several products at the same time. In fact, larian has spoken about obtaining the liscence to a game a while ago. Im pretty sure this game was developed at the same time as OS2:DE
Angel Bennett
However, instead of actually developing a story, a plot, adding depth to Irenicus, the Cowled Wizards and the general mistrust in magic, the game tells us to go grind.
>There's nothing to learn, now get me gold
That is basically what we learn in the entire second chapter. The rest of the game is so much more plot-driven compared to the beginning that it feels like Bioware 'forgot' to give time to the sidequests.
Isaac Butler
One good game in a series propped up by narrative because it had shitty combat all along
Gavin Taylor
what do Beamdog's EEs have to do with Larian's BGIII and why are you trying to fit in so hard on an anonymous board?
>One decent game in a series propped up by narrative because it had shitty combat all along Fixed that for you.
Ian Barnes
Larian is singlehandedly saving the story-focused isometric rpgs
Nathaniel Long
Threadly reminder that Siege of Dragonspear is canon in the series now.
Chase Martin
Decent is literally a synonym for good
Asher Robinson
what are you even rambling about? that's exactly what he said. from story's point of view, you need to accumulate capital to hire allies to help you in your ultimate quest. from gameplay's standpoint, the necessity to gather gold provides you with an incentive to take sidequests and go exploring. it's the best of both worlds.
Jack Phillips
*Ahem*
FUCK AMELYSSAN
Justin Nelson
>ee
Get out beamdog shill
Brayden Morgan
Aside from political correctness potentially getting smeared everywhere, just HOW do you make anything continuing a series where you ended up as the epic level new god of murder? Also >fifth edition
Kayden James
Moving goal posts that far is the same as admitting you were wrong.
Jaxson Campbell
You have no idea was types of bullshit are now canon in 5e lore. People are still mocking the blessed sexfluid elves.
I find this very weird both gameplay and rpwise. How is it superior to thief/mage? DUHM and other damage increasing spells for high backstab? Roleplaywise I don't see how it makes any sense, except for thief/cleric dual maybe. It's the only class I never played I think
Asher Hernandez
>2003 "Man I hope Bioware makes BG3 someday"
>2019 "Man I'm glad Bioware isn't making BG3"
Jaxon Taylor
Bhaal as a newly reborn god suckers some random unlucky dude to become his new champion(the PC) and serve as his personal murderhobo and a proof of his return. PC tries to wiggle himself out of this deal. That's the most basic idea.
Adrian Peterson
They could exist as shitty peasants who don't have pet wizards or thousands of gold to blow but that would require talking about class disparity which is a subject a bunch of trust fund shitlib coastal manchildren would never broach
Blake Sanchez
Almost every multi/dual class is great, it's borderline stupid just how much you can abuse the system.
Chase Long
>He doesn't have a soft spot for soulful eurojank Why do you even exist
Brayden Hernandez
What's the point of naming it Baldur's gate 3? It would make a lot more sense if it was OS3. The story of the Baldur's gate games is absolutely over. Nothing left to tell, all ended on a perfect note. Why bring it back now, if not for nostalgia for its name? Nothing against larian, but this just seems like a shitty move
>roleplaywise If you are roleplaying, there are better options than BG2.
Chase Roberts
not that user but im willing to wager he's talking about rightheous magic synery. RM provides you with maximum damage on every hit the same way kensai's kai does, so theoretically c/t has the highest bacstab damaage potential in the game, aside from assassin
Agree. OS1 had that ridiculous boss that literally requires cheesing to beat, and at the end of OS2 I let out a big “mmmmmeh.” I might be the only person that feels like POE2 > OS2, but dammit fuck Larian and their forced humor.
>wiggling out of divine ordained murder, rape and mayhem Tsk, that is how nu-gamers would play
Ian Ross
Which is to your credit, but doesn't answer my question
Robert Perez
What's fucking next, a low budget netflix serie? Fucking hell...
Owen Morgan
Gnome and half orc get it as a multi class choice. Tiax is one so there's one roleplay example. It can a lot of backstabbing with buffs up but I find that fun, especially when you get silly cleric weapons like the Crom Faeyr.
Bentley Ramirez
Its probably focused on baldurs gate, as in the place, and featuring several characters from the series. If i had to take a wild guess: its a paralell story, seperate but with some of the same characters.
Simmilar how the new DnD book that came out is set in baldurs gate or how the Neverwinter MMO featured several BG characters in it.
Charles Nguyen
>duration: 10 min/level That's 5 hours at most for a level 30 wizard. Considering the vast majority of npcs are not even level 1 classes, I don't see how they have access to spells like that or the money to have a high-level mage casting those 3-4 times a day at least.
Carter Gonzalez
>those who transcend gender as the gods do
Little much isn't it?
Adrian Perry
There is a belt in the game that puts that effect on you as long as you have it equipped
Zachary Diaz
Magic items can do it permanently too, but aside from that there's certainly no medical methods so either you've got wizardry or its off the table.
Some degenerate elves, gnomes, or both probably make potions that can do it.
Ryder Butler
I am fucking pissed
Asher Perez
I don't know, dude. I hold BG in such a high regard, and i don't see the point of this. Larian just doesn't seem like the right studio for it. They made good crpgs, but bg is so much more different than OS. And i don't want modern crpg fans infesting the older games discussions with how outdated/noncombat focused some things are.
Adrian Cox
>And i don't want modern crpg fans infesting the older games discussions with how outdated/noncombat focused some things are. Do you understand how dumb this thought is?
Not fair, beambros... not fair. We pretend to work so hard to bring Baldur's Gate to modern audience and consoles. We even spit on the old fans to make space for new ones... and this is how WotC pay us?
>I don't want people to point out that a 20 year old game is 20 year old
Christopher Foster
Try Skyrim of Fallout 4. Those are games made for your kind.
Nathaniel Diaz
>bladder's gate 3
yawn. call me when it's not a "nostalgiafags overrated their childhood game" sequel
Parker King
mate, you better point out HOW it's bad, or just refrain from commenting at all. Just makes you look like a twat who thinks he knows something when he doesn't.
honestly its for the better. Who else do you want to make it? Beamdog? Obsidian? they only produce crap. Larian is actually making good games. and compared to all the other developers, theyve actually shown to be willing to support the kind of stuff you can do in DnD and not neccesarily in most video games. Of course larian also has its own style, but i dont think this will feel much like a usual larian game. For what its worth, id like a DnD game with non RTWP combat and maybe some of the more simulationist world interactions that Larian games sometimes have. I guess im also hoping for less WORDS WORDS WORDS which is what the other recent CRPGs have been. Beeing about story is one thing, beeing overly verbous is another. >modern CRPG fans are mostly nostalgia goggled old CRPG fans. Who do you think this is beeing marketed to. Why do you think they are even making a BG3, the target audience is people that enjoyed Baldurs gate, icewind dale and Neveriwnter nights and now are adults with money to spare.
Samuel Watson
Even if it exised in BG those saving throws would've rendered it useless.
Brandon Sanders
he is because he is litteraly based arond Mark Meer
Xavier Gonzalez
Paladin with the Kit Inquisitor... let dispell all
Blake Walker
2nd edition Player's Handbook.
Luis Rivera
You are mad because new people might talk about a game. I am not your mate, I dont want to associate with the likes of you.
>i-i-it's in the handbook... >but i'm not going to name the spell, page number, or post a screenshot whatever you say lying pussy.
Elijah Thompson
Goddamit. I actually wanted another Divinity. Baldur's gate is such a far out dream that i cant see it be successful. People will hate it just because it would be modern and that would hurt Larian as a company. Imagine actually hating on the guys that made a game in 4 different genres in the past 5 years with moderate to great success. I just really like the studio and this game would just bring a notoriety that they dont need
Anthony King
So will they stick to AD&D or move over to 5e for this game?
Carson Kelly
Yeah. There is no way anything but 5e is being used.
Zachary Parker
Yes. I'm sure bg/crpg threads will improve with new players and console players.
Hunter Ward
Beamdog don't even make anything of their own, they can't even be a contender. Obsidian only produce crap? Are you out of your mind? But you're kidding yourself or you're one of the people fanning the "conflict" between larian and obsidian fans. Both studios make good games, just that obsidian actually makes an effort to write a good story in the package. Words don't make a game bad. You signed up for it when you tried a fuckin old school crpg game.
there has to be at least 70 braindead niggers that think its bg3 among these larian shills bumping the thread kinda funny
Isaac Rodriguez
probably 5e i cant imagine wizards signing on to make an AD&D videogame these days when they can help shill 5e
Adam Rivera
They are bugged. Rangers have access to first 3 level druid spells normally,but in that multi they have access to all of them so you get all druid and cleric spells in a class, with ranger's fighting stats This was fixed in EEs if you're playing them. With an ini edit you can bring it back though
Ryder Evans
>i can't look up the alteration/transmutation spell list by myself
Noah Rodriguez
Yes, for new players and console players. Those threads are not for only you, they are for the people.
Jeremiah Anderson
A bug that grants you access to all druid and cleric spells by virtue of ranger getting access to up to 4th level druid spells normally. Most notably you get iron skins and have the same THAC0 as a fighter/cleric.
Nathan Lopez
Does it come with a time machine so you can go to a time when anyone gave a fuck?
Charles Johnson
Divinity XCOM soon, and larian is working on several projects at the same time.
Anthony Lopez
hey
Ryder Lewis
Not in the EE version. Rangers have a separate spell table from Druids in EE whereas in the originals, Rangers used Druids' tables. Hence why Cleric/Rangers got druid spells once they have the spell slots for higher level spells than Rangers usually get.
Charles Baker
>i'm not going to provide a source because i'm a lying pussy bitch yep that's you
larian can absolutely not do baldurs gate justice they're going to turn it into a turn based 4 person party garbage with "jokes" everywhere
Liam Brooks
that is EE my man. i might have edited a file or two for consistency's sake though..
Ian Wright
but larianiggers HATE rtwp
Angel Perez
Just as those players can whine and call for casualization, i can push for the old fashion. You can go fuck yourself, i will die on this old hill with my beliefs.
Kayden Perry
Protip: Alter self
Thomas Gonzalez
What good game have Obsidian actually made in recent history? From what i understand, they pretty much switched the entire actual team. >PoE i know a lot of people here like it, but from what i see, its got a terrible setting, it is overly verbous, it includes too many real life references and its RTWP. I dont like RTWP games. Thats why ToEE is my favorite old DnD game, even tho the fucking thing refuses to run half the time and is generally a broken mess. I admit that they implemented turn based mode for PoE 2. If i wanted to play a RTWP "member icewind dael" kind of game, id play Pathfidner Kingmaker since that actually seems to have some novel ideas in it. >WORDS WORDS WORDS i dont think i did. Again, beeing about story is one thing, beeing overly verbous is another. OS2 occasioanlly also suffers from this nu-writer problem where they think everyone loved Planescape Torment because of the purple prose.
Daniel Gonzalez
I thought that's an obscured Quake III logo.
Logan Hughes
In Icewind Dale Rangers and Paladins get higher level spell slots, don't they? Do they get access to more druid spells there?
Cooper Moore
oh great another classic game remade to fit the degenerate sjw paradigm
cant wait to play a demiqueer panbinary orcgnome neowizard
Cooper Long
No one can bottle lightning but Larian make the best games nowadays so they are the correct choice.
so it boils down to you not liking rtwp games. And it doesn't seem like you actually even played the god damn games. Either play them and see what the fuck they're about, or contain yourself in OS threads forever
Ian James
> wanted to go back to the Realms for years but know it will be full of current year leftist bullshit like the tabletop is today
except the bg series already has its gameplay set up its a 6 man party and you can say what you want about rtwp but the bg series IS a rtwp series you cannot remove that without fundamentally changing the series.
Hudson Miller
i see where you're coming from, but the crowd that larian's bringing isn't exactly compatible with the old formulas. plus, the old games don't need the improvement. They're not considered one of the best, if not the best, for no reason.
Carter Thomas
Play IWD2 HoF mode.
Jayden Smith
Share some examples or fuck off.
Camden Parker
christ now i'm hoping it's like that just to piss on your cornflakes, please have sex
Make me, ive dealt with RTWP in Icewind dale, and NWN. But those were games of its time and im not gonna shit out nostalgia bucks for a couple of half baked "member prerendered backgrounds" games. Its not like i didnt consider buying PoE but i looked into it and it didnt look like my cup of tea. but be my guest, only shit on this after youve completed it on the inevitable hard mode. I for one am gonna judge it for what i see of it. And if its another 5E snoozefest like that Swordcoast legends game then im not gonna give it any of my money.
Adrian Ortiz
>no mention of a module or book where that shit's from Yeah I totally 100% believe it.
Samuel Johnson
Its larian tho, they are too busy autistically crafting 8 different ways to solve some farmers dung problems than caring about CURRENT YEAR politics
Aaron Bennett
traps
Luke Davis
I have no idea.
Maximum duration is 12+60 rounds equals a maximum duration of 72 rounds or roughly 72 minutes for a level 30 wizard, the level limit for non-deities. So I vastly overestimated the duration to begin with. Still not a spell everyone is able to have cast on themselves at all times.
Landon Carter
what about Dark Alliance? Thats a literal Diablo Clone in the series, and a damn good one at that >muh spinoff maybe. But at the end of the day, its gonna be a departure anyway because >5E no way WOTC wont force em to do it in 5E >New story because how would you even continue the old one, how would you turn that into a new game
Samuel Davis
Traps are legit most powerful weapons in the game, one of the main reason I always have Haer'dalis with me. I don't think I killed Demogorgon once without using spike traps
Lincoln Murphy
You understand bro. Fallout has tedious combat because of the slow ass 1 player control, it's like playing DnD if all your fellow PC's were noncontributing retards..
William Powell
Polymorph after reducing spell resistance several casts. Turns them into a squirl with 5 hit points. I feel a little dirty doing it.
When does the first game get good? So far it's been asinine fetch quests, shit dialogue and very bad looking environments/backgrounds (in comparison to other CRPG-s of the time like Icewind dale and Planescape Torment).
Dylan Richardson
What does that even mean? The players that larian brings? You mean players that arent oldschool CRPG fans? For one thing, the people actually buying the Larian games appear to be just that, oldschool CRPG fans, on the other hand, why not?
Because it isnt RTWP? Because the Larian games arent based on a dnd ruleset? well this one is going to be for one thing, and secondly its not like BG is in any way particulary complex besides the optimization of it. its dialogue and combat, not exactly rocket science here. Also why do you care about OTHER PEOPLE playing a single player game?
Aiden James
surprise, the roman numeral for 3 looks like three vertical lines
Adam Collins
except i consider those 2 things to be the foundation of the series if they remove them to me it would be like turning bg3 into an fps never played dark alliance because that wasnt bg to me.
Dylan Phillips
No way in hell WOTC is going to let a game go that isn't 5e.
Jordan Perez
>Larian writing hopefully not
Juan Sanders
For the same reason it looks like the Spellforce 3 logo. because thats what the roman letter 3 looks like, you stupid idiot.
BG1 is a perfect lowlevel party adventure. A one of a kind. If you don't like the pacing it's ok to skip it, games should be fun
Adam Barnes
no you got caught lying like a pussy bitch and are trying to backpedal. meanwhile polymorph other is cheap as shit and completely destroys your retarded argument, fag
Juan Hill
I'll play this, whatever the fuck it ends up being. I enjoyed both PoE and OS. They are both good. My issue was with you being one of the hundred shitposters spreading bullshit about obisidan when you're not the familiar with their work. Too many people spreading opinions about shit they don't know anything about, or however the fuck the quote goes
well one of them is going to be removed anyway and thats because of WOTC autism, no matter who develops it, its gonna end up beeing 5E. Also, realy? RTWP is the foundation? not the party based gameplay? For what its worth, play Dark Alliance its a fucking great game, and the other games by that developer aswell since they are all realy fucking good and i wish all the ARPG games these days would be clones of that and not of Diablo 2
Connor Robinson
Can’t wait to be massively gimped unless I play as their special OC characters and have to re load 59 times because of instant death traps! Based larian!
>tfw it wont be my dream game of a prequel with a PC harper galavanting from Waterdeep to Athkatla and Gorion as a companion with the raid on the cult of Bhaal as his companion quest.
Zachary Jenkins
>not liking kirill shit taste confirmed i know enaugh to know im not gonna enjoy it. Looked at enaugh gameplay. And i definitly know enaugh to be glad that Obsidian arent the ones making this. You played these games, prove me wrong on this: Obsidian doesnt innovate in any way. They chase the nostalgia bucks.
Now imagine giving them Baldurs Gate, the quintessential RPG nostalgiabucks franchise. Might aswell give em Morrowind at that point.
Henry White
The BG story is over. It doesn't need a third game. Fucking hell.
Joseph Roberts
Larian makes good games and I enjoyed the original Divinty 2: Ego Draconis as well as OS 1 and 2 but their games have a serious problem with the writing (which is shit). Unironically Ego Draconis had the best writing out of those three.
i consider rtwp and 6 man party to be the foundation of the series, rtwp because thats the way the actual gameplay functions similar to how turn based is the foundation of the original sin games.
Yes finally someone smart! I'm worried about Larian doing BG 3 because they completely suck at writing dialogues and stories except for Dragon Knight Saga. I hope they hire Chris Avellone.
Brody Cooper
This looks like it was drawn by the Dungeon Meshi artist. Am I right?
Nicholas Turner
They changed it.
Ryan Foster
>I hope they hire Chris Avellone. they hired avellone for os2 and that didn't work
Alexander Adams
I am surprised so many old timers know how to use the internet. Good for you gramps.
Jose Stewart
So what else do we know? Is this it? Was there an announcement of ANYTHING? Should the site even be up yet?
can't be any good, they were too retarded to make their game work on laptops
Tyler Martin
I'm surprised you know how to walk outside of the house without you face glued to a smart phone screen. E celeb gossip being good for you lately?
Carson Thomas
Damn, don't get too excited old man, don't wanna flare anything up
Ayden Thomas
Official press statement
“Hey! It turns out some online sleuths have discovered our latest project, so this post will act as an official announcement! The baldurs gate franchise is a beloved series, and we at larian are excited to do it justice. Of course, some elements of the game will be updated to reflect the modern world. Rooted in table top gaming, especially “dungeons and dragons”, we found that the previous baldurs gate instalments focused too heavily on player choice. To bring the series up to snuff with modern, cinematic gaming, we have introduced a cast of original larian characters that will be interwoven into the story. These characters will have powerful abilities, and with modern gaming technology, far surpass anything a player would have been able to do in the original games. For hardcore old school fans, the choice to create a character is still there, but this wasn’t really a focus for us. We have also upped the immersive challenge the game provides, so instead of old fashioned dungeon crawling, expect environmental puzzles that all involve instant death! We are very excited to reveal more details at E3 this year.”
You'd know all about flare ups after your recent dialysis, so I can just turn to you for pointers if I do.
Dominic Collins
half assed bait sonic
Ryan Lopez
Am I going to have to dress up in BDSM gear if I roll elf this time?
Leo Moore
To keep it simple, i don't like the writing and the stories of larian's studio. Avellone helped out on OS2, and even that suffered from the same symptoms. The BG games, while not being some literary masterpiece, still had great stories and some examples of the best writing in the genre. That is one thing that i am afraid of if larian picks up this. The other, is the fanbase. The flippant attitude of the shitposters that cling to OS games have infested every other CRPG thread on this board, and it could only get worse with this, with yet more pointless non stop bitching. That second point is arbitrary, true. But i would still like it if i could have a decent discussion after the game releases. And it does not need to be a numbered sequel. The story is done, there is nothing left to tell. Zilch, nada. Bringing the name back in this manner just seems like banking on the old success.
Josiah Fisher
lmao
Parker Brooks
Blessed post
Dylan Walker
TURN BASED FAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
RTWP WINS BABBYYYYYYYY
Michael Young
I will never understand why RTWP triggers so many autists. It's a great system.
Adam Wright
Remember how Jaheira romance talks start moments after his husbands death lmao
They chased notalgia bucks, and they made good games. And to an old dog like me, that second point is not a detriment. I like both, but i would rather have obisidian on this. Even if obsidian of now is not the A team that once was. It still carries some spirit, so to speak. We'll just have to play and see, right?
Easton Mitchell
>still riding onto the baldur's gate name to sell your game it's gonna be a disappointment
Carter Reyes
zoomers need not apply
Landon Reyes
Literally no one wanted this.
Nolan Davis
Not much of a loss for her considering Khalid spent the entirety of my playthrough of BG as a lass after I found that girdle of Masculinity/Femininity.
Henry Sullivan
>Have never played Icewind Dale >Have never played Planescape Torment
Which of these should I be able to finish before the Pathfinder EE changes drop?
Logan Wood
Hey, Arcanum had it as an option and it was great.
Noah Rodriguez
I don't either specially when there's always an option to have both.
Xavier Barnes
Making a D&D game RTwP in the first place was a huge mistake.
William Anderson
Baldur's Gate wasn't some literary masterpiece but 30 year old boomers have rose-tinted glasses. The most memorable writing in Baldur's Gate centered around characters like Edwin, Minsc, Tiax, etc. Larian is the only studio that I trust at this point to continue the series without gaying it up with SJW shit.
Jason Russell
Planescape Torment. Icewind Dale fucking sucks.
Landon Barnes
I didn't realize that I did until it was announced. Now I'm hyped.
Dylan Thomas
>announced
Nicholas Howard
>t.beamdog employee
Jaxson Phillips
>reddit: the studio No thanks.
Jayden Watson
Come on, man. They made this too obvious. It's confirmed at this point.
Liam Edwards
Because it doesn't jive well with systems where characters progressively gain more attacks, have vastly different attributes, and spells that take time to cast.
Charles Bennett
That's Obsidian.
Jordan Morris
I'm looking for recommendations on games like Divine Divinity/Beyond Divinity. Hack and slash with more than just hacking and slashing. Replayed Dungeon Siege 2 but had to drop it halfway since FPS dropped from 20-30 to 7.
Zachary King
>Hook up with Drow waifu >her cunt followers poison and kill her
Eli Reed
>Reddit: the studio
What in the fuck does that even mean?
Ayden Lee
Tried roguelikes?
Christopher Johnson
>reddit: the studio That's not beamdog.
Ryder Diaz
Infinity Engine combat is the worst combat system I've ever seen in an RPG. Planescape Torment is the best of the bunch partially because it had the least combat.
Ryan Kelly
Tried a few but I'm getting tired of the randomized stuff that looks like crap.
Michael Collins
Writing is great in both Div OS games, especially in Div Os 2. KYSRN.
Wyatt Diaz
>Divine Divinity
That game is like Baldur's Gate and Diablo 1 had a love child. I've never found any other game quite like it. Good luck with your search, user.
Jacob Thompson
>Infinity Engine combat is the worst combat system I've ever seen in an RPG. >Not Ultima 7
Zoomer detected. Infinity Engine combat is just meh. There are so many games with worse combat out there.
Michael Powell
Obsidian is Resetera: the studio Constant awful "humor" in the writing that only low IQ individuals find funny.
Hunter Morris
That's neat, but how the fuck are they making a 3m
Benjamin Moore
>Base Mage is somehow bad >Still pushing the Kenshi/Mage class that sounds good on paper but is worthless in practice
Retard
Christian Williams
Larian gets hated on because of their humor but retards ITT complaining about their "bad writing" not being up to BG standards seem to forget that characters like Edwin, Tiax, Minsc, Jan, Xzar, etc ever existed. And those guys were the most memorable characters from BG along with Irenicus and Sarevok .
Dominic Bailey
So you would just play as another Bhaalspawn? since Gorion's ward is pretty much a god.
Liam Reed
>Constant awful "humor" in the writing that only low IQ individuals find funny. Baldur's Gate was filled with "awful humor," retard. Except it wasn't actually awful. You're just an old, bitter faggot.
Joseph Morgan
>high IQ humor meme Ah yes, my favorite "I'm a depressed autistic NEET and I don't want to admit that I'm not fun" trope.
Matthew Richardson
Nox is very close to the original Divine Divinity, Revenant is pretty good too.
Brayden Miller
>Persisting with the last option until she spills spaghetti She cursed me with this thing for tsunderes, my soul is damned
i agree on the story. as for the writing, i assume WOTC will have a sharp eye on that. Anything Realms related is treated with supreme autism. >fanbase idk, i dont see any larian fans ederposting anywhere else, its a Yea Forums thing. Im not gonna lie, bringing the name back is basically irrelevant. my guess its that its gonna be a seperate story but featuring some of the same characters.
William Martin
It's a compromise between full action and turn-based that inevitably retains only the worst aspects of both. It can't touch TB's precise control or RT's fluidity, instead sitting at an unhappy medium between them, leaning to either side depending on your use of pause.
Icewind dale is good, Planescape torment is a fucking book. Planescape and Icewind dale represent the opposit extremes of what the DnD games of that time were. Planescape is a literal book, Icewind dale is a storyless dungeon romp. I personally enjoyed icewind dale a lot because its one of the few games outside of ToEE that lets you customize the entire party
Adrian Kelly
>larian releases bg3 >it has multiplayer >turn based >they port over their DM tool and expand upon it to Neverwinter levels
I'm stocking a mini-fridge full of Rockstar right now
Julian Sullivan
Well said
Jason Howard
spawning six gorillion angry fan fic alternate endings. absolute fucking balls of the writers.
In Icewind dale it was kind of the point and i didnt feel like it detracted from the expirience, its hard to explain. For what its worth, BG is the middle of the road between planescape and Icewind dale, which is probably why its still well remembered while Planescape is mostly held up as a standard of "Muh big brain writing" and Icewind dale is largley forgotten about, same as pool of radience.
I tried playing Baldur's Gate recently (with recommended mods) and I didn't really see the appeal. Combat comes down to spamming AoE webs and shit on the ground and shooting the enemies to death because characters using Melee without amazing strength and armor class will get torn apart quickly. The DnD rules juxtaposed with the random encounters makes managing your party incredibly tedious as you have a chokingly limited number of times you can cast. From what I played the story felt pretty standard what with you being the special boy entangled with some divine or demonic power. Shockingly average for how hard the game gets its cock sucked by CRPG people. But with that in mind, I'm playing Original Sin 2 right now and feel like the game is good but with a lot of QoL issues, but people praise that game as Christ's second coming. So I guess the community's standards aren't so high.
Nolan Bell
one of the latest ones i think
Jackson Scott
is this a thing? putting your pronouns on your twitter profile? i havent touched twitter for years
Ryder Lee
If they improve on their modding tools and DM mode, plus adds dedicated server support then you will have a game that is a worthy successor to NWN as much as Baldur's Gate.
>>they port over their DM tool and expand upon it to Neverwinter levels Wizard won't allow that. They don't wanna be shamed after what happened to Sword Coast Legends.
Jaxon Green
>Icewind dale is largley forgotten about Good riddance.
Landon Perry
yes
Samuel Roberts
>Obsidian is Resetera: the studio no, that's bioware
Noah Powell
Holy shit, yes. I'd prefer they'd just made a entire new D&D series set in Eberron/ Dark Sun/ Ravenloft/ Planescape instead of MORE FUCKING Forgotten, and probably The Sword Coast to add salt in the injury, but just knowing Beamdog won't do the game makes me a very happy person.
Ryan Butler
When I first played the game, I had no idea that she was even a character you could romance. I just found her annoying as fuck and basically told her to quit her bitching.
Nolan Carter
>trannys literally have a god complex
my first goal as Bhaalspawn would be to wipe these freaks out for hubris
Honestly, it's really nice considering how fucked they were a while back. It's cool that they've gotten such a wide audience
Brayden Nguyen
Zoom zoom here, give me a quick rundown of this boomer game.
Oliver Morgan
>I might be the only person that feels like POE2 > OS2 Probably because you're the only person that played OS2 by yourself.
Chase Ross
Yikes. That's a painful read.
Easton Ward
i can see that. I guess i just like Larian more because i want to see what they turn it into. Admittedly, im not a huge purist on this. If i were huge into the infinity engine, then maybe id prefer Owlcat aswell.
but as it stands, im just fucking curious how this will turn out.
Samuel Morris
>Then you missed out on the best romance in the game m8
I didn't, though. I probably beat that game at least 10+ times and ended up romancing her at some point. I was talking about my first playthrough when I was kid just trying to adventure without hearing some neurotic woman sperg every time I'd try to rest.
Gavin Campbell
>this entire thread Comfy cRpg discussion is forever gone, isn't
khalid was some half-elf coward. Chadname was the son of a god with a gargantuan cock as big as his father. Makes perfect to Jaheira to ditch the little elf dick.
Jackson Bailey
duel them 1 v 1 as a sorcerer while my party full of useless cheerleaders watch
William Rivera
Depends on how you do the triggers. I spent like 3 months in-game before romance triggered
Tyler Rivera
I have never played the Beamdog remakes, but they somehow look even worse than the original ones.
Christian Sanchez
>be 5e baby >try BG1 >quit like an hour in because the systems are so weird to me
Everyone says these games are great, how do I get into them?
>screenshake >SCREENSHAKE >visible hp bars >screenshake >SCREENSHAKE What the fuck is this?
Joshua Richardson
>imoen Kinda dissapointed with the romance. I was expecting somehting like: "We are kinda brothers so we can't have kids. Anal sex only".
Ryan Anderson
>but only because it diverges in a lot of ways from the mold of traditional WRPGs like Baldur's Gate. No. DivOS combat is great compared to BG because it actually has level design, and fully 3D, on top is some nice physics. BG suffers both from the terrible D&D rules, the fact it has to adapt them to real time, but more specially, from garbage levels (just plain and empty rooms), again like the tabletop game. Go play 7'62 High Calibre if you want something more similar to DivOS, although in a completelly different setting, of course.
Elijah Davis
Play pathfinder.
Austin Allen
screenshaker crits were already in bg2...
Easton Thomas
I want the game to work, user And I don't want even more romance faggotry
Nathan Miller
That one game that came out a little while ago or the tabletop version?
Sebastian Nelson
Play it for the story and characters and world not the mechanics
Jacob Cox
literally and unironically my progression also my taste in class changed as well >childhood: berserker >adolescence: fighter/mage >adulthood: sorcerer
Eli Wilson
The second version of the Imoen romance mod that added Aerie bisexual option was toned down
Small numbers are good. That's all you need to really know for THAC0/AC. Everything else is pretty standard D&D. Just don't touch Dual Classing if you don't know what you're doing.
Ian Miller
Tabletop. I don't know much about the game besides the fact that the progression was supposed to be hilariously broken on release.
Henry Young
Hopefully its turn based
Christian Rogers
Have they improved it? Pathfinder was horrendous dogshit when first released.
Given its Larian I wonder if it'll be RTwP or Turn-Based.
Brody Cook
The hell? No. BG's story was always about becoming a god and you do that, or just say fuck that shit and continue being human. ME was a typical epic space opera that ended in a a complete nonsentical way trying to be deep.
I would wait for the current beta for their "enhanced edition" to end. Which will also be the release of their final DLC. So I would play it then.
Well yes. But I doubt it will be
Tyler Sullivan
Romancing people in games is for incel losers without romance in real life. Prove me wrong.
Joshua Brooks
What!
Connor Morgan
What's the biggest differences between 2nd edition and whatever edition it is now, 5th? THAC0/AC is basically the same, except in a more direct way?
Jackson Robinson
Larian's turn-based combat is cool, but the difficulty of the D:OS games is punishing to the point that I never got very far in them. I hope they tone it down a little. The Baldur's Gate series and even games like Gothic 1 and 2 paled in comparison from a difficulty standpoint. Maybe I'm just a pleb that cannot into D:OS combat.
>better writing >the games actually don't shy away from being rpgs >cringy self-inserty romances aren't the only way to learn about your party >quality is consistent
Honestly Larian is in such a completely different league that Bioware should feel like committing sudoku.
Justin Howard
Played Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 EE a few years back and thought it was a bit too slow for my pea-brain. Are there any similar games that I should try out instead?
Why wouldn't you just turn down the difficulty then?
Jace Brown
Pirate non EE ones.
Connor Clark
Because I hate acknowledging that I'm too pleb to handle "normal" difficulty. I rage-quit the first game at the Sparkmaster and I've only watched videos of D:OSII but it looks even more difficult.
Nathaniel Smith
God you're just reminding me how bad the EE characters are.
I mean this is a game with Minsc sprouting /gaming tier jokes and I still would sooner have him in the party than any of the newbies.
Hexxat also being a vampire was too new school for my tastes. Rationally there's no reason anyone with sense would bring a vampire into the party. Even a the rest of the evil party members are more reasonable to bring with you than a fucking vampire.
Ian King
YIKES
Nathaniel King
>Sparkmaster just turn him off user There's literally a manual that tells you how to do it. Either way, your loss m8. It's a shame you let your pride make you miss out on a fun game.
It'll be diversity termite trash like everything else.
Connor Rivera
I'm guessing maybe the games just aren't for me. Like I said, Dark Souls, Elex, Gothic series, etc are easy for me but I kept getting my ass handed to me in D:OS. Even when I'd win, every random battle felt like an absolute grind more akin to a strategy game than an RPG. I just wasn't having fun.
Ryan Scott
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I never played 2nd edition itself, but BG uses a modified version of that, so it doesn't really matter.
Yes, proficiency bonus + stat bonus in 5e is more or less THAC0, just without the numbers getting smaller. Although you'll find your THAC0 goes up a lot quicker than your proficiency bonus does in 5e.
Biggest difference is probably with magic. There's no concentration or anything in Baldur's Gate, so there's no limit to the amount of bullshit you can throw out, which is why magic becomes absurd by endgame.
Also, with saving throws, the DC's set by the characters themselves, and not the spells/effects themselves (though they'll add modifiers to that). They want to roll above whatever their saving throw "stat" is, and your saving throws "increase" by having the numbers decrease, aka making it easier to pass. This sort of gets fucky where some things that modify your saving throws say you get stuff like a "+2 penalty" to saving throws, but then you get things that say it gives you a "-2 THAC0 penalty", since it's referring to the THAC0 bonus, not your THAC0 score.
Really, that's what throws people for a loop with BG, I feel. If you can past that stuff, and can get used to managing a whole party, the gameplay's pretty easy to get through. Just expect a lot of traps and some bullshit deaths in dungeons. Oldschool "hardcore" stuff.
I can see a lot of people being mad. Its either going to be too far from BG, taking a lot of elements of OS which made Larian super successful. Or its going to go too far towards BG and lose the audience Larian gained by having a huge co-op focus, 100% turn based combat and action points.
Logan Miller
Wait, left and right are the same character? how does vampirism change your race?