This is the ideal SMT. You not like it but this is what peak performance looks like

go back to play etrian odyssey, you deserve it

>more serious writing
>more serious themes
>less time spent on bullshit fluff
>harder combat
Persona is SMT: babby mode

*improve the game and make it better fit with the series it's supposed to be
Also:
>it's okay when Nocturne does it

what?

>zero waifus
yeah no thanks

>make a DeSu2 anime
>adapt it without having the player character as a turbosperg
Why did they even bother?

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I swear to *record scratch* that I read an interview with the developers where they state that SJ counts as SMTIV and I'm not crazy. I can't find the interview but I'm sure I read it in a physical game magazine right around the time those were just about to die out.

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They were making it with the intent of it being SMT IV, but they thought it was too much of a departure of the smt formula so they renamed it strange jourbey

Not exactly.
Kaneko and the marketing team said it could have been a mainline title but it was turned down by the development team because they were working on it as a spin off and they felt it would undermine their work or something to that degree.

I'M GOING TO PUNCH THIS (((ANGEL))).

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Honestly Strange Journey has more in common with Etrian Odyssey than SMT.

I don't understand how anyone can even play Persona after experiencing Nocturne.

>makes the game good now
Game was always good ylu faggot.

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It was just a big advertisement for the game.

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>could have been a mainline title
But it is one.

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Reminder that the doom marine always succeeded in his mission.

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That box isn't showing mainline titles. Why do you think Nine and if are there?

>People start arguing about SJR being inferior to SJ on /vg/, /smtg/
>Thread about it proceeds to be made here
Hmm.. Interesting. /vg/ shitters have been the ones destroying our threads all along, eh?

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It wasn't.

Redux is fine but I consider it a sidegrade to the original. The JP voice acting is nice and I don't mind the extra endings. But the redone portraits were 100% unnecessary and I like the conciseness of only having the original 3 endings. I also like just straight up getting XP for sidequests, although with the Womb of Grief making grinding easy I can understand why that wasn't a thing anymore in Redux.

Persona is mainline now, smtbabby

This. The reason you don't fight him in IV Final is because he didn't die like a bitch in any timeline.

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You do this shit every thread don't you.

>vg
>Nocturnebabby central
Oh no no no no no no. The same place that thinks vanilla is better than Hardtype. They are pure cancer.

post fav smt music
youtube.com/watch?v=ZPsU-ZMC6SA

You're too much of a faggot for me to even bother with. Sorry about your shit taste.

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Nocturne sucks. No story, barebones characters. It sucks.

I know this is bait, but honestly the only reason why Persona appeals to anyone, and specifically normalfags, is because it's a borderline high school anime dating simulator. Remove that, and it'd be another generic JRPG in niche territory. Not only that, but the plot keeps getting worse with each new iteration, and the gameplay certainly isn't engaging at all. Especially not in P5.
>Broken stealth mechanics that make ambushing enemies a cakewalk
>Lifeless dungeons that can't even be tackled without your party bringing up every little puzzle, as if you're too retarded to solve it on your own
>Baton Pass to win combat that makes it even easier to bust through enemies
I don't know how you can enjoy this mess. I really hope P6 fixes all the glaring issues. I doubt it though, since the director for the story is Wada, who has done nothing more than help Hashino develop the games, and work on the shitty dancing titles.

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>playing the casualised version
Yikes

>Why do you think Nine and if are there?
Because they're mainline.

>youtube.com/watch?v=168yHo3m66M
Who /spookies/ here?

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If I had shit taste I would pretend SJ was good.

>Casualized version
Difficulty options from the get go
???

Well yeah, it's important to inform new fans what are the mainline games.

The thing that gets me in 5 is that you can no longer do dungeons in one day. You have to leave it and to the dumb calling card shit or help someone out.

>mc is an actual adult with professional training and experience
>even if mc is the chosen one he's still mainly just a soldier following orders
>that OST
>side characters contribute to the story's progression as well instead of just the law/chaos/neutral reps
I started getting burned out near the end of the game which kind of sullied my overall experience but I still consider SJ a great game just for how unique it felt compared to the other SMT games I've played.

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that's literally what I thought of Persona 3, so I dropped it and played SJ instead and loved it

This. The only thing that bothers me when it comes to dungeon crawlers like SJ, is the massive burn out I suffer in the ending.

Reporting

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How is it bait? Persona is actually enjoyable, with plot and character development

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only because Japanese fans would sperg out if it got a numbered title since it wasn't set in Tokyo

Dude, they're literally spin offs of 1 if I remember right. Hell they made a quest in 4A about the mainline protags and no one from if, Nine or SJ shows up.

>he says on the board that frequently proclaims Nocturne to be the best JRPG ever made

I don't think they really care that much.

Just don't use field saves. It has two higher difficulties and a bosses harder than anything from the original

>offs of 1 if I remember right
You're not remembering right. You may.ne thinking of Raidou, which takes place in an altername universe where the events of SMTI/II occur.
>Hell they made a quest in 4A about the mainline protags and no one from if, Nine or SJ shows up
Okay, so what? They did it for all the games with numbers at the end, a game can be mainline without having a number at the end. Being mainline is more about gameplay, setting, tone, and mechanics then the title.

>Plot and character development
Yeah, but that doesn't make it good development. Out of the bunch of newer generation titles, P3 is probably the least offensive. Otherwise..
>P4 is basically JoJo Part 4, and the actual gameplay is a step down, on top of the dungeons being literal hallways
>P5 is literally a soulless Persona 2 rehash, with a lot of plot and story concepts being used in a worse manner

>/smtg/
>Not 4, Soul Hackers And DDS circle Jerking 2.0
Yeah no
>”BUT MUH NOCTURNEBABBIES”
Like Clockwerk

>DDS circle jerking
DDS is for trannies, though

DeSu Q when?

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Hopefully never. Just make a DeSu 3.

Damn, I didn't know you were a dummy.

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Stop giving the obvious shitposter attention you retard.

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I miss Devil Survivor. I honestly prefer them to Persona.

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Didn't play SJ, so can someone explain to me why you hate him so much?

I'll continue to call out shitposters regardless, user. This thread is already destined to fall apart anywho. Just look at how it started.

Sounds like you're just a butthurt because they don't jerk off YOUR game.

If I had to be completely honest in terms of my enjoyment of the series, it'd be:
>SMT > DeSu > Persona

youtube.com/watch?v=kWcNY1G5p6c

user, please. This is Yea Forums, we have people who literally say nigger for no reason and when someone ask them why did you say, they will respond, "Just because I want to" like it's the coolest shit ever. This place is feel with idiots and wannabe "cool" kids.

>You're not remembering right
No he's right, if... Is set in the same universe as 1 but as a what if story where it wasn't nuked. Nine is set in the same universe as 1 full stop but when the protag was in the diamond realm.

I don't know what you're talking about when it comes to Raidou though because that isn't even an SMT game.

>Nocturne sucks
How can you be this much of a plebeian?

It's pretty much a better Persona, because you have access to gameplay at all times, rather than having it locked behind 2-3 hours of VN segments.

you need to have at least 50 iq to enjoy Nocturne, maybe persona 5 is more your speed

Besides this, Fate Links are truthfully better than SL's, because they have actual influence and impact on the direct story.

Play the game, he's a great character and it's better you're not spoiled.

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And they are fucking retards for thinking that. Nocturne is good but one of the most overhyped games on Yea Forums next to Deus Ex and Super Metroid

Highest difficulty available is equal to the original, the other 2 are easier. Next one up isn't available until NG+
It's not just field save, it's command skills being strong as fuck, infinite equippable subapps, and getting more exp, gear and demons from womb of grief

If is literally named if because its a what if of 1 you retard.

He's literally Todd Howard

Handheld garbage, hopefully V will redeem this

Have you ever played Raidou?

Seriously major spoiler here:
The ultimate antagonist of Raidou 1 is Raidou XL. He came from a future in which the events of SMTI occur and wants revenge on Raidou XIV as he blames him for not preventing the apocalypse.

It's named "If..." after the film of the same name, which it was inspired by.

If it was there would have already been a third game. Persona BTFO of spinoffs which is kinda sad cuz Devil Survivor was pretty chill.

user, an apocalyspe isn't a reference to 1 specifically.

Went into it without knowing anything and came out loving it. Favourite SMT by a mile.

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I don't hate this trustworthy and handsome man. Who could possibly do so?

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And the fact that its a what if you fucking moron.

He tells you that he is a Temple Knight for the Center, as in the Center from SMTII. Play the game before you try to debate people on it.

What's the second worst megaten fanbase after devil survivor?

Persona is the reason why spinoffs no longer exist, honestly. They found their cash cow to milk, and they've succeeded. The spinoffs like Raidou, DDS, Devil Summoner, and DeSu are all dead now. Sequel maybe, though. Since SMTV is going to bring in a lot of reusable assets.

Last time I went to that cancerwhole it was literally just Nocturne garbage. If they think Hackers and DDS are the best are they based

A "what if" that is mainline.

Being mainline isn't about story you retard, it's about mechanics.

There’s literal threads circlejerking the Persona girls, user. Devil Survivor is decent in comparison.

Honestly the Redux content sticks out like a sore thumb. The tone/writing/art is completely different from the base game. Only thing that isn't completely out of place is the music.

Do you just hate every game that's popular? Like if a lot of people like it and you don't, it's overhyped and you'll go on a crusade to trash anyone who likes it? Why is contrarianism so popular on this board?

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Nocturne. Fags think it's hardcore or some shit.

You can just say you've never been there user, no one cares.

>He tells you that he is a Temple Knight for the Center
Two things that are reccurring elements in smt and their spin offs. You don't know how the series works do you.

You mean after Persona?

On the SMT 25th anniversary thing wasn't there a video prior to the SMT V announcement where they literally went through every single mainline SMT title and if was in there? If Atlus said whats mainline themselves is there even room for debate at this point?

I have been, jackass. There was actually a pretty decent DeSu thread last night that was pretty comfy. Persona threads are fucking garbage, especially nowadays.

>it's about mechanics.
If doesn't even share mechanics with the mainline games dumbass.

Trick question, Devil Survivor is second worst, Persona is worst

>Two things that are reccurring elements in smt and their spin offs
Are you fucking retarded? What other gamehas a location called "The Center"? Now you're just making shit up. Why is it so hard for faggots to just say "sorry, I was wrong" and move on?

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The sad thing about that is the fact that most SMTfags are chill about the series because of the obscurity but when SMT V drop more people will jump on board because of the giant success of P5 and start getting into the series only for it to begin the great P3-P5 debate but with SMT games instead.

Beside the guardian system it's the same as SMTI/II.

>where they literally went through every single mainline SMT title and if was in there?
That wasn't about mainline games as much as it was cycling through the console games.

>Instead of P3, P4, or P5 debates that turn into full blown autism fests
>We'll be having full blown autism fests over which game is shittier between Nocturne, IV, and V
I'm fairly certain that IV is going to get the short end of the stick. Especially since V is another fully 3D experience.

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>through the console games
Why wasn't Raidou, DDS, or Persona included then? If it was about console games why was SJ, IV, and IV:A given small sections then?

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Not him, but Persona threads are far worse. Rarely do I ever see actual Persona threads discussing the content of the games, outside of full blown waifu posts, or autistic bickering over P5 or P3 being trash.

P3-P5's pacing is WAY slower than Strange Journey's, I have no idea you could call the latter more boring than the former. And SJ's dungeon design runs circle around Persona's.

If I'm a failure I don't want to be successful

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Not handheld if you play it on Citra.

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SMT V might be better but who knows? Fingers crossed for E3.

SJ comes the closest to Megaten 1 (a perfect game) so yes, it's a good example of peak Megaten
Even Megaten 2 and SMT1 and 2 suffer slightly from the overworld meme, Megaten 1 and SJ's one long, multi-layered sprawling dungeon that you progress through was honestly better than having an overworld where you bounce back and forth between smaller locations

>IV is going to get the short end of the stick. Especially since V is another fully 3D experience.
This makes me sad

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It's literally okay when Nocturne does it because it added great lore, a superior ending, and no shitty forced waifus.

>Why wasn't Raidou, DDS, or Persona included then?
Because they aren't SMT games.
Raidou is Devil Summoner.
DDS is Avatar Tuner.
Persona was Megami Ibunroku before just becoming Persona.

>why was SJ, IV, and IV:A given small sections then?
Because they're still console games?

As much as I like IV, it does have a lot of obvious shortcomings that need to be improved upon. And since V seems to have the same team, it's not hard to imagine it being a straight upgrade from IV.

But I'm not one of those retards who thinks only "the best of the best" games are worth playing. Any and all good games are worth playing regardless of comparisons. Even if V was flat-out better than IV, I would still recommend playing IV.

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You better cross them hard my man, its extremely unlikely

>SJ's one long, multi-layered sprawling dungeon
Not really
Instead of an overworld you just have a menu

>Megaten 1
Are you just being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian? At least say Megami Tensei I.

Wonder if we will get a SMTXFire Emblem situation.

>a borderline high school anime dating simulator.
Then why is persona beloved by normalfags but actual dating sim games are reviled?

The fuck are you on about?

oh god please don't trigger my PTSD

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Nocturne does suck though

There was a literal entire threads filled with 400 pictures of just Aegis
Just Aegis fan pics nothing else

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>why was SJ, IV, and IV:A given small sections then?
Console doesn't mean home console user. It means any device specifically made for video games so a handheld is still a console.
I mean if they were going with mainline then they'd have to add those phone games and Imagine too. Imagine in particular is a sequel to 1 IIRC.

>NINE is mainline
>jap only release on the fucking xbox of all consoles
what the fuck were they thinking? will it ever be remade?

You said in That wasn't about mainline games as much as it was cycling through the console games
If it wasn't about the mainline games
why weren't Raidou, DDS, and Persona included then exactly? Them not being mainline wouldn't matter because, as you said, "That wasn't about mainline games"."

Tokyo Mirage Sessions turned out pretty good.

I'm a Personafag and I can agree it's enjoyable but I still prefer 3 over 5 anyday especially with the cast feeling more really rather then sucking your dick from the start.

Maniax was made back when Atlus cared about consistency and didn't tack-on obligatory waifus. Instead they tacked on Dante from the Devil May Cry™ series who still fits in better than Alex.

I wish demons leveled up to learn new skills.

Yeah, you can tell the difference because SJ was terrible and has shitty writing while Redux is good

Because it's anime, and Personas are basically JoJo stands. Social Links don't go overboard with dating simulator aspects, and give the side characters actual mini arcs to go through. They're still quite awful most of the time, but whatever.

They could have picked worse characters desu

Re-read that post retard

You mean Persona x Awaking?
That was fucking cancer
Fucking everyone hated it

>If it wasn't about the mainline games
>why weren't Raidou, DDS, and Persona included then exactly?
I literally just told you
>Because they aren't SMT games.

Soul hackers are way worse there’s that one who keeps on saying press turn is shit

When was the last period of time when Yea Forums as a vocal majority actually praised and discussed Super Metroid?

SM fits right along with SM64, OoT and FFVII in terms of games that are needlesly hated just because they're popular.

They talked entire too much
Like “Wowie we have powies!”!
Took fucking 4 paragraphs

>Fucking everyone hated it
Well Personafags did because it wasn't persona. Everyone else who played it liked it.

Command skills are useful for the stronger bosses. The extra dungeon in Nocturne gives you more exp and items but nobody complains about that.

>Megaten 1 (a perfect game)
Damn nigga that's a good joke

So "Shin Megami Tensei" and "Mainline" are different things to you?

SMT doesn't necessarily mean mainline.
Hell, SMT itself is a spin off of Megami Tensei.

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If you'd played it, you wouldn't say that

That guys sounds based. Stay mad Nocturnebabby

They're different to everyone invested in the megaten series.

>p4 is just jojo
Not at all you dumb retard
Besides persona it’s soul faggers mainly cause that one fag who won’t shut up about how press turn is bad

It was SMT X DR retard.

My favorite persona is Jack Bros.

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Answer the call son of man.

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How did you get this number?

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70h in, finished Horlogium and currently fusing some demons for Mem. Too bad I can't fuse pic related, I should had checked the ex missions before the alignment lock.

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Nigge

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>added great lore
You mean necessary worldbuilding the original shitty game didn't even have? lol. Let's not forgot that Alex provides much more characterization for major characters that help them
>a superior ending
Yeah let's just forgot that TDE invalidates all the other endings in the game and doesn't even fit since child Lucifer never even talks about you joining up with him.
>and no shitty forced waifus
It's called Dante. Maniax casualized Nocturne

Don't forget super pixie

Perhaps we and the friends we killed along the way, were the real Megami Tenseis all along.

Someone should mod 4 and remove this ugly design and put the originals
In for all of this guys designs

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>Maniax was made back when Atlus cared about consistency
Yeah, since consistency the old scenes don't even fit with the new ones. Dante doesn't fit shit.

>plot and character development
>generic lifeless doll aka mc

Only Nocturnebabs think they're the same.

sup.

what kind of made up for it was his second form. still not as cool as previous smt

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>literally forced to grind
defend this

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Do you just want to fuck Alex or something? Is that why you're defending everything in Redux being so out of place?

Two bosses you fight almost back-to-back:
youtube.com/watch?v=JAyszscQOvU
youtube.com/watch?v=9fioomH3V5I

her flesh-wings always creep me out in this image

Never once though

So why was the Demifiend in Digital Devil Saga anyways?

I got filtered by Medusa's Shadow (or whatever it was called).

Not him but
>I did thing
>no you didn’t

>suck at game
>game is bad cause i suck

Never noticed.
Why do people want fuck demons again?

Amala shenanigans.

Also the fiends and a entire dungeon that gives you more exp and items then needed

Why do you want to fuck other humans

Maybe in terms of how his design makes him look like a major character.
But his characterization was done tastefully. It's not like there aren't any cocky demons in any of the games.

The key word is "forced"
If I managed without grinding, it can't be forced

>knew the track before opening
A man of Soul as well

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Same reason why we want to fuck aliens.

Dante is the best megami tensei waifu

Nothing in Redux is out of place. Unlike the original terrible game which is anti-SMT, Redux fits properly in the series

P3 is an SMT game that happens to take place in a school, because the school (and most of the island itself) happens to be deeply related to a demon summoning experiment gone wrong. Rather than "a student who does X", all of the important characters are related to the experiment themselves; the daughter of the head researcher, the heiress to the man who created and funded the project, a boy possessed by the hidden aspect of death that was inadvertently released, and so on. Age up the characters to their mid 20s, and make SEES a demon hunting mercenary team, and the game just becomes a mainline SMT.

It was only his data.
Maybe his data just glitched into the supercomputer that ran the Junkyard.

Aaaand you're a broken record. Okay, I'll stop bothering.

Are you sure you don't mean just Medusa? The shadows were just slightly tougher than the average random encounter around that area

It's truth. Keep thinking SJ or Maniax was good

youtu.be/QKMRad3df4A

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>P3 is an SMT game
I'm just gonna stop reading there

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>Age up the characters to their mid 20s, and make SEES a demon hunting mercenary team, and the game just becomes a mainline SMT
Mainline SMT doesn't even have adults as the protagonists. At best you have SJ and that's a spin off.

*FE

Okay waifufag.

>playing SMT for the writing

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Is SJ really that good or is it only so highly regarded because its a casual filter?

SJ is SMT you dipshit

Are you being retarded on purpose?

God that pic makes me fucking sick to my stomach
How would you ever feel clean after that?

Yeah an SMT spin off you fuckwit. Find one mainline title with adults as the protags.

It literally is you dumb retard.
>Comfy small town
>Serial killer
>Personas being essential JoJo
Yeah.. You thought.

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You're right because at this point the series sold so well it can be considered it's own thing. Maybe SMT V will do the same thing?

His point is that Nocturne gets overhyped by some annoying fags. It all boils down to
>muh demifiend
>I want to punch god in the face

Strange Journey is mainline, the only reason it's not numbered is because it takes place in Tokyo. It's more similar to I and II than Nocturne and IV are.

What if they get the Devil Survivor artists to make a mainline game?

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You already know this is going to happen. SMTV will be the P5 of its series

Not him but he's right and I find faggots like you who constantly have an axe to grind way more annoying.

No it wasn't. He manages to survive the conception because of reasons, he has two terrible boss fights you are forced to endure, and doesn't even get pierce. He's shit, Raidou is even worse

I'm trying to be like you. But seriously did you not see the first trailer when the stupid crossover was announced? The big hype was "SMT x FE". It wasn't a Persona crossover, in fact if it was it I bet it would have sold better.

is because it DOESN'T* take place in Tokyo, obviously.

Seek help fujo.

Join the chaosfags

Honestly speaking the franchise would benefit from some new spinoff or side entries. We got IVA, SJR and just wait for V.
What I'm saying is new demikids when?

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It would look like a mobile game and there wouldn't be any new demons, unless they all were blobs and geometrical shapes.

>Strange Journey is mainline
Are you fucking retarded? The game was designed with the idea of being a spin off on mind and was outright had mainline status rejected by the director.
And no, it's nowhere near SMT 1 and 2 beyond the dungeon crawler style.

SJ is awful. Redux is good though

It's because of the whole psychology and phatom thief thing

Did you just skip over the post you replied to?

Demikids games were pretty bad

>b-but muh poorly written philosophy and characters!!!!

Has anyone ever played this SMT game?
Is it any good?

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It was still published as a mainline game and at the end of the day recognised as such

There needs to be more bosses that are weak to status aliments or have some kind of intresting mechanics based around them like Orcus..

>3 is totally SMT, guys!
Why are doorfags such tools?

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Why does this thread have so many retards? Is this the future of SMT threads? Where did you faggots crawl out from?

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>P3 is an SMT game that happens
Actually it's the last real Persona because it takes place in school for a reason.

>It was still published as a mainline game
On what planet? Do you think SMT and mainline mean the same thing?

Persona 3 is SMT YOU FUCKING CLOWN DOOR GAAAAAAAANG

What?

So were most first entries, and with Pokemon being in the state they are in it's a nice opportunity to take a shot for the kid niche.

I know, who the fuck thinks SJ is good?

>It was still published as a mainline
Pretty sure the only person who wanted to be mainline after the dev team denied it was Kaneko and he failed.

When's the last time status effects work on bosses. That shit is so rare in rpgs

>it's nowhere near SMT 1 and 2 beyond the gameplay

Again, SJ is only not numbered because it doesn't take place in Tokyo. It is still part of the mainline franchise. IV references the shit out of it. It's clear there's continuity.

Etrian Odyssey

Man, that shit outed a lot of SMT "fans" to be fucking idiots

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>Where did you faggots crawl out from?
SMTV was announced and then idiots read the wiki thinking it makes them experts.

How do I get over Megaten lategame burnout like in last month of P3 or half of kagutsuchi tower in nocturne etc.?

Old Yea Forums.
Unfortunately nu-Yea Forums is full of faggots.

Never played it, is it bad?

Most Pokemon fans are migrating to SMT, anywho. They don't need to appeal to the kid audience.

>As much as I like IV, it does have a lot of obvious shortcomings that need to be improved upon
this is true of most smt games. most games even

But EO is dead

Old Yea Forums was Nocturnebabby central

>Playing through Redux
>Having a blast
>get to Eridinus.
>Flashbacks begin
>Just quit the game altogether.

FUCK that place.

>But the redone portraits were 100% unnecessary
Having the red sprite crew have faces give them more personality, in addition to Jimenez and Zelenin not having the same two faces.

It has always been that way
Always

>eridanius
ya like traps?

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/smtg/ is full of brain dead Autists why should I care

I haven't really played the game yet. I started playing and when it turned out you can't play it without the gamepad because it's your mapscreen and you have to scroll through some textmessages to progress which has to be done on the gamepad for some reason, I stopped playing and forgot about it.
Some people say it's decent.

My point is that a lot of people expected some game they made up in their mind and hyped themselves because of a trailer that only showed some fucking character.pngs
If you actually cared for a SRPG SMT, there was DeSu so I never got the hype in the first place either.
FE games aren't that good either, I mean they're alright but not really an amazing SRPG series.
Then people were pissed because the game wasn't the game they imagined it to be.

you're describing Yea Forums as well

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Click teleporter on lower screen, it was added for casuals.

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Fuck circlejerks

>P3 is an SMT game
I know it hurts that P5 newfags are trashing your game for being old, but you dug this grave for yourself

Eridinus isn't trial and error boredem anymore, you can tell where you are going on. Redux was made to make SJ not be a piece of shit anymore.

Which sector of megaten fans contribute the highest to how divided the fanbase is? The divisiveness between fans of different subseries is depressing to watch when each is good in their own way.

At least Yea Forums isn’t as cancerous when it comes to /vg/ garbage if I had to deal with to evils I’d pick Yea Forums over /vg/ anytime

Based himukai poster

>game gets threads on Yea Forums
>Yea Forums thinks this means game is popular
>Yea Forums hates game for being popular and shits on it constantly

>Atlus
>making anything but SMT or Persona
LOL

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I hate SMT newfags. They're more stupid than other series newfags.

>he doesn't play and love all the games, despite their shortcomings
what's your excuse, user?

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Highly agreeable.

How do you appreciate bad games like SJ?

>SJ is only not numbered because it doesn't take place in Tokyo.
Yeah no otherwise Kaneko wouldn't have tried to make it a numbered title. That detail is irrelevant.
>It is still part of the mainline franchise.
You need to stop thinking that SMT and mainline are the same thing. SMT, Persona, Devil Summoner, Devil Survivor they're not spin offs or mainline on their own they're different series in the same way Zelda and Mario are hence why you can have spin offs of what you think are spin offs like PQ or SJ.
>IV references the shit out of it. It's clear there's continuity.
Except the demonica in 4 is just armor. It doesn't have any of the same functionality as the SJ one. Using your logic P5 dancing is canon to SMT 4 as well.
Its also worth noting that were SJ in continuity with 4 the protagonists wouldn't even be in SJ because of the dome.

>Which sector of megaten fans contribute the highest to how divided the fanbase is?
Persona and recently SJ.

Like Catherine?

That's not MegaTen senpai

>IV references the shit out of it. It's clear there's continuity.
That's like saying SMT is in continuity with DMC.

Majin Tensei
Atlus revives Advance Wars in an SMT skin

I'm sure someone believes dante somehow got to the vortex world after dmc2 ended

HNNNNGH BALDR GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG

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Fine TMS.

That's MegaTen?

Well yeah but they'd be a colossal retard.

Ye

IVA, between people who think gameplay excuses shitty story and those who think shitty story eclipses everything else.
Also dumb nomenclators that have a shitfit whenever someone uses "SMT" as anything wider than numbered series (with maybe SJ, Nine and if... accepted and even those begrudgingly).

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Oh yeah well that was a exception

>one long, multi-layered sprawling dungeon that you progress through
Man now I want a made in abyss game by the Etrian Odyssey guys

>Also dumb nomenclators that have a shitfit whenever someone uses "SMT" as anything wider than numbered series
Pretty sure there's only one guy like that.

>with maybe SJ, Nine and if... accepted and even those begrudgingly
Who says they aren't SMT?

>*Unsheathes Yamato*
>*Activates Devil Trigger*
>*Teleports through the Vortex World, killing Pisaca's*
Scum.

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>runs around Womb searching for Fruit pieces

I want #FE 2

I don’t.

Don't we all.
Well, all of us who played it.

I just want 4 Nero to show up in a :ersona with people confusing his Devil Trigger for a Persona.
Still would find it very cool to see one of them show up randomly in a mainline game instead of the phone game.

All 5 of you

Ikr? Kind of a bummer.

in fairness, they should've picked something better than fucking idolshit if they wanted people to take it seriously
plus isn't it only on the wii-u

LO Shuvuu.

I wish the Fate system in devil survivor gave an obvious audio or visual cue when you say the right answers.

The game isn't really about idols as much as showbiz in general. Hell one of the party members works in Toku shows.

>isn't it only on the wii-u
Well yeah, it can't be on anything else but a Nintendo system.

>The game isn't really about idols
exactly my point
>Well yeah, it can't be on anything else but a Nintendo system
maybe if it got a switch port people would play it. since the dust has settled. honestly I might try it but I wouldn't buy a wii-u for it

>:ersona
A-user, are you okay? Seriously though, I hope the Nocturne remake has Dante return.

why do you want a nocturne remake?

I doubt it, hell Dante is probably why they can't port or remake it.

>I hope the Nocturne remake has Dante return
I hope they do boomer dante. DMC2 dante is my favourite one design wise, but it would just be a cool thing to add
they've already expressed interest in making a nocturne remake. I don't think its out of the question, especially with the dx2 collab

It's going to happen regardless, anyway. The director, Yamai, who has been on board with the SMT team since about Nocturne spoke interest in remaking it. It truthfully needs one too, since there was a lot of cut content.

>since there was a lot of cut content
user, I don't think it's gonna make it in. as much as I want it to

I don't see why not, honestly. There's no reason why they can't implement what they couldn't before, especially since they have better hardware now.

>Serios
>Not a chuuni teenager fantasy
Wtf SMT is as anime as Persona( except for the waifu faggotry)

Pretty much, but people like to cherry pick like homosexuals.

What SMT are you talking about

>SMT is as anime as Persona
The closest thing to an anime smt is if...

Nocturne remake will be Playstation exclusive

I hope not, I don't think I could be bothered with a censored action rpg smt game.

or dds if we're stepping out of mainline

Almost everyone except Strange Journey just because the characters aren't kids and the setting isn't urban, but the retarded and unlikable Chaos and Law goals and the stuff about facing gods is very anime like

DDS isn't SMT. That's like saying Persona is.

So you think characters being "kids" and the setting being "urban" makes SMT 1 and 2 somehow anime?

So you've never actually played a mainline SMT game.

DDS is actually less SMT than Persona when you get down to it, not that I'm bashing DDS

oh I guess it isn't. I thought for sure it was

It's just urban fantasy shonen

It's really not, you should play the games before you start talking shit about them

>Exclusive
I really doubt it, especially when SMT is primarily a Nintendo series. They only used the PS2, because it was the only console good enough at the time. They definitely weren't going to use the GameCube. That doesn't apply so much now, though. I could see it being multi platform, but Atlus doesn't really do that when it comes to Persona and SMT. The new SEGA thing might change that, though.

Then surely you should be able to find a shonen anime that's similar.

>because it was the only console good enough at the time.
Dude, it was the weakest of the bunch.

Devilman

>Law & Chaos
Improved in SJR, but we had a Future Trunks tier character implemented in the story to provide these new endings.
>Killing gods
Mem Aleph isn't even a god, she's just the will of the Earth. Shekinah isn't even really God either, just an avatar of his. I'd say SJ is Seinen, if anything.

>Final Boss requires AUTISM to create Demons without Weaknesses

Compared to the GameCube and Xbox? The PS2 was pretty powerful.

>Compared to the GameCube and Xbox
Yes?
There's a reason why multiplats often ran worse on the ps2.

Not only was it weaker but it was also much harder to develop for.

gc was actually the most powerful at the time, unless xbox was slightly more powerful

Not even close, the only similarity is that they have demons.

It went xbox > GC >ps2

I got into megaten with persona 5 but love all the other games just as much for different reasons the only megaten game I have had a hard time liking is nocturne. I like most of the game except the amount of backtracking and how it is handled

based p5friend

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mix it with Harry Dresden and Digimon and you have SMT. Modern anime isn't similar but in 80's/90's there were a lot of urnam fantasy setting, SMT is the result of mixing a mon trainer game with an urban fantasy setting and a chuuni fantasy about killing gods

Still not even close

i don't like new portraits

>and a chuuni fantasy about killing gods
Since when is killing gods chuuni?

You can argue about cyberpunk tematic in digital devil saga but still 80's-90's anime

Seriously have you actually played anything other than SJ?

Either you've not seen any 80s or 90s anime or you've not played SMT

Read LN and you'll see, it's the definitive power fantasy, the greatest feat regarding strenght and the posibility of changing the universe/planet apeal to the arrogant otaku that wants to change everything instead of changing himself

SMTIV

Both, really.
Also, the coolest setting, yet I wish it had the graphic and atmosphere of Nocturne. That would pretty much be the perfect SMT for me.

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Yeah I doubt that. The closest you're going to get is Isabeau and her manga.
I wouldn't even call Apoc anime.

That's not what chuuni means.

>can not romance lucy’s daughteru

Automatic shit tier.

Stop overanalyzing games so much. Have sex. Also learn what chuuni actually means.

GC was lacking in some bells and whistles the PS2 had as well as the storage space of a DVD, so, while more powerful on paper, you had some devs preferring the PS2.
Xbox on the other hand sort of brute forced them when it came to power, and remains an impressive machine for the time in which it was made.

I agree about the graphics but SJ's atmosphere is perfect for what it's trying to be, making it similar to Nocturne would only make it worse in my opinion.

What it means then?
I remember that chuunis are people that believes themselves anime characters with secret powers and so on. Therefore the wanting to kill a good and change the world seens in character with the chuuni. Why do you think that's such a common plot point in JRPG?

What do people actually think of SJ's soundtrack?
I think it really fits the setting but at the same time I feel kinda just indifferent about it

>Why do you think that's such a common plot point in JRPG?
Despite the memes it's really not.

What I meant was, I think that an updated version of the Nocturne engine/new engine that kept its philosophy would further enhance what could have been done with SJ's atmosphere.
There's only so much Strange Journey was able to do on the DS hardware and within the rigid Etrian Odyssey-esque system it was tied to. On better hardware, they could have really "painted" a scene like they did in Nocturne. Here's hoping SMTV will go beyond.

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Making cool demons is THE gameplay loop of SMT and Persona, fag

A lot of JRPG has a final boss that's a God (Or a creature just as powerfull) as final or secret boss, memes are just an exageration of a reality

>Future Trunks tier character
Future Trunks is a great character, so that's a good thing

I want a persona game with all the cool waifus and social links but with SMT combat. Is that too much to ask for?

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>exageration
Key word there, exaggeration. As in the amount has been exaggerated by the meme.
That and people tend to think that the antagonists calling themselves gods makes them gods.

Yes.
If you add SMT combat to Persona Atlus loses out on both sets of fans.

Anime isn't just battle action series. MT has got a OVA before, it's literal anime

Scanning demons really took me out of it and I dropped it. Is it just some shitty story justification or can you really not see what you are encountering for the first time the entire game?

Also, the music is some of the worst I have ever heard on the 3ds.

But why? If you find smt combat way too difficult then give an option for them to play on easy. I just hate the fact that Persona has such amazing and relatable characters with a pretty good story but I just can't stand how easy the games are even on the hardest difficulty.

>Anime isn't just battle action series.
Hence why SMT isn't anime. Also an anime adaptation of a novel doesn't help your point in the slightest.

>that Persona has such amazing and relatable characters with a pretty good story
HAHAHA

Yes, anything past Persona 3, Persona combat is just modified press turn

It is "anime". You can't call Persona anime and try to act like SMT isn't

I want a Persona game that isn't so goddamn fucking cumbersome to play, where it feels like the flow of the game is constantly interrupted and you're railroaded into hours and hours of cutscenes and dialogue
I wouldn't mind the Persona combat at all if 99% of the game wasn't me watching a VN play on auto
Fuck P5

This might not be totally fair since I've only finished around half of the games I listed, but if I got bored enough to drop it that's a knock against the game too.
Fuck all of the Persona spinoffs except PQ, at least that one reminded me of EO.

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Sure you can

>You can't call Persona anime and try to act like SMT isn't
Of course you can because Persona is essentially a slice of life anime with RPG elements spliced in.
Also the two series have nothing to do with each other beyond sharing demons.

where did you play nine user?

No you really can't

Shit taste

I didn't, that was supposed to be in the No tier, I'm dumb.

Strange Journey has great potential with its story and atmosphere but it falls apart on a gameplay level. It's one of the worst SMT games.

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not him, but I think I know where he's coming from. Persona is more OTT tropey like you'd expect anime to be

It's probably the weakest Meguro soundtrack I've heard, but I blame the ds soundcard

Cringe and bluepilled

Post yours then faglord. I've at least given every SMT game a chance except the aforementioned Nine and that MMO Imagine.

I started noticing it less and less as the game went on. I was really blown away by it at first, but I guess it gets very samey

Why do you say that?
The two series have completely different themes.

I'd say the hipsterfags. You can easily spot them by hating anything popular and comparing it to TRUE SMT.
>hurr Persona is shit
>hurr Undertale is shit, you could negotiate with demons in real Shin Megoomi Tensay games for ages

I don't even understand how you can hate Persona but like other SMT games

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No you cant, it's literally not a anime. If you go by your bias SMT is essentially a cyberpunk thriller with RPG elements spliced in.

So?

Alright

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Easy if you play them and compare

>it's literally not a anime.
Are you sure you want to stick to this angle?

>If you go by your bias SMT is essentially a cyberpunk thriller with RPG elements spliced in.
>SMT
>Cyberpunk
You what?
Not to mention unlike Persona SMT tends to focus more on the gameplay.

>P5 in utter crap
>#FE in S tier
This doesn't even qualify as bait user.

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>everyone tells me it's the worst smt game
>still currently my favorite

I hope we get the other devil summoner stuff one day.

Are you dumb? II is cyberpunk as fuck. Not to mention that being story focus doesn't matter. And yes it's not anime, it is not a animation you watch

>it's literally not a anime
You're joking right?
You're going to bring up the MT OVA and ignore the fact that Persona has had 3 anime adaptations and uses anime cutscenes in game?

P5 is fucking shit, #FE is the king. This is why you have shit. You like bad games

You want to what's fuck up, Mastema death in SMT4. He actually care for the humans and wanted to help them. He didn't even care about the demons or saw them as a threat, he just want the humans to have hope. Before you know it, the archangel still mad that he trap them. Pretty messed up to know even the angels can betray one another.

You might like this film.
youtube.com/watch?v=8CiuSr-6xP4

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>II is cyberpunk as fuck.
Yeah not really, you're conflating cyberpunk with anything that has a tech related plot.

>And yes it's not anime, it is not a animation you watch
Oh boy, fine. Lets just forget about every single intro to the modern Persona games, several animated cutscenes and the anime adaptations.

Look, I get you like Persona but it's the chuuni trash you've been accusing SMT of being especially since now the main protagonists are literally chosen ones with special abilities setting them apart from even their peers with similar abilities.

I wonder if it's possible to be such an "ironic" contrarian that your brain gets rewired to give you dopamine hits for playing kusoge.

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SMT also had a opening anime cutscene. The point is that due to your insecurity against anime you think Persona is becasue it takes place in high school.

The only contrarian here is pretending P5 is good and hating games with good gameplay.

I never played a Persona game ever, but i tried Devil Survivor 2

I didn't like it. It's not bad, but it's not for me neither. But i wanna try something else related. I should go for Persona 1 and 2?, how good they are actually?

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>Look, I get you like Persona but it's the chuuni trash you've been accusing SMT of being especially since now the main protagonists are literally chosen ones with special abilities setting them apart from even their peers with similar abilities.
But let me guess, it's okay when SMT does it?

Contrarian's got to be the lamest deflection you could throw out
Almost exclusively used in these threads by people that haven't actually played most Megaten games but are convinced the one they played must be the best or are otherwise too insecure to admit they don't know what they're talking about

>SMT also had a opening anime cutscene.
Okay one, you by your own admission have only played 4.
Two, it literally fucking doesn't.
Compare this youtube.com/watch?v=Yk-JlIb9Pho
That barely has any animation
To this
youtube.com/watch?v=X8AHS5zytm4
And this
youtube.com/watch?v=3lY-lENYR6g
And finally this
youtube.com/watch?v=Z3QStGaSXLw
You'd have to be legitimately retarded to say SMT has anime cutscenes.

Dunno man, I really like what they did with P5.
You can see they tried a few different things like filters/lighting so maybe we'll get back to PS2 era SMT where they shat out a shitload of stuff

>Yeah not really
Yeah actually
>Lets just forget about every single intro to the modern Persona games, several animated cutscenes and the anime adaptations
Getting extended media makes something a anime? Well, you might as well admit SMT is a anime too. Do people be retarded on purpose or are they just pretending?
>now the main protagonists are literally chosen ones with special abilities setting them apart from even their peers with similar abilities
Just like SMT? Besides never said it was chuuni trash but okay

Play DeSu1, it's widely considered to be the superior one of the two. More challenging enemies, much better writing and atmosphere.
If you wanna start with a Persona game your should probably start with 3. 2 is good too if you're in a retro mood. Stay away from 1.

>it's okay when SMT does it?
They'd have to do it first.

Hey the user that only played SMTIV is me, another guy

shut up retard
they're the same shit, except desu2 has better gameplay
and persona 1 is great

Fine whatever it doesn't matter if you're both wrong as it is.

They're literally all Messiahs

There's nothing else I could use to describe people who would put #FE in S tier on a SMT tier list. It's bait or the most contrarian thing in existence.

youtube.com/watch?v=vGvfMXR6OKE

>You not like it
NANI?

Yeah, people who actually understand what good gameplay is about

>they're the same shit
t. never actually played them
DeSu1 has a totally different tone and atmosphere than 2. 1 has the heavy, desperate feeling that most SMT games do while 2 is literally more happy go lucky scooby doo than Persona 4 is.

Wasn't the whole "It's so hard to develop for" a MS marketing scheme?

>when SMT is primarily a Nintendo series
What the fuck are you talking about, you idiot?
>I could see it being multi platform
You mean what it was since Megami Tensei?
Even SMT was only on SNES for like a year and I think all of the SNES games got a PS1 port.

They only used the PS2 because it had the biggest userbase. Kinda like they went for the DS and 3DS which also had way cheaper production costs

>The absolute state of SMT threads
It won't even take SMTV's release for this series fandom to implode on itself.

>they’re the same shit
Not that user but they’re really not. There’s more emphasis on survival in DeSu 1 whereas the DeSu 2 gang get to hang out with a top secret organization that provides food and luxury.

>464114121
You're not getting any more (You)s from me, you're cut off.

Don't worry, Persona already killed SMT

Cope bitch. #FE will always be better than a series with mediocre gameplay

youtube.com/watch?v=YX41jSvIx5M

>Yeah actually
No actually, first and foremost it's a post apocalyptic game.
>Getting extended media makes something a anime?
By your own admission, yes.
>Well, you might as well admit SMT is a anime too.
If you want to take that angle, sure. But SMT hasn't had any, the closest is the adaptation of the DDS novel which isn't SMT. Bad luck for you huh.
>Do people be retarded on purpose or are they just pretending?
You tell me, you've been tripping over yourself this entire time because you're biased for Persona and don't want to admit it's everything you hate.

>Just like SMT?
Not really no. Messiahs were created specifically to be the eyes of the Great Will as opposed to being the chosen one with abilities beyond that of regular persona users. Hell, they aren't even particularly special in that regard given the first thing that happens to Nanashi in Apoc is that he dies.

Oh, you’re that retard. Yeah, no, #FE can go fuck itself.

>P4 isn't JoJo Part 4
Nigger, what?
>Bunch of teenagers in a small town with Stand tier powers, hunting for a lonely serial killer so they can restore peace to the town
>Go on a bunch of investigations and actively try to save the victims before they get bopped
P4 is the most JoJo tier game, period. That's not even surprising since they actively said they used JoJo as an influence for Persona, but whatever.

It's okay to pretend P5 is good, but it will never be better than #FE

why is there so much art of this

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I don't even know what the fuck is going on in these threads.
I like Pascal, he would've been the best choice for the SMT mascot unlike that rude piece of shit Jack Frost
youtube.com/watch?v=Ze0rHEjHF48

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Retard alert. That's not even from the game. At best all you have is this and that's a remake of a spin off.

>implying
I don’t even like P5. I just think you’re a faggot.

Monogatari is huge and people love Shinobu.

At least Persona 5 is a good Persona game.
#FE failed to be a SMT/FE crossover, it's a Persona Fire Emblem game.
I'm glad you like it, but it's a poor Shin Megami Tensei.

Raidou is known to have good taste and you can't have better taste than vampire loli

>#FE
the combat was good, but the fact it took both SMT and FE and thought "hey, you know what we can do to alientate all the core fans of both series? make it idol shit and make the story laughable boring and cliche"
the fusion accident meme is real

>I don't even know what the fuck is going on in these threads.
Same as usual, Personafags. Granted there's a little bit of SJ secondaries.

Keke, do you love me, are you riding

In what way is it Persona? Where's the calendar system, as far as I can see Three Houses is more of a Fire Emblem x Persona than #FE is

>At least Persona 5 is a good Persona game.
On what planet?
The only good thing about the Persona series tends to be the story elements but there's absolutely no real motivations for each of the characters once their arc is done.
If you take the story away all you really have is about a 5 hour JRPG that's kind shitty.

>p5fags and TMSfags going at it
I couldn't have imagined a worse thing to happen to the thread

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>first post is bait
I missed a fun thread, didn't I?

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>No actually, first and foremost it's a post apocalyptic game.
With lots of cyberpunk elements, yes
>By your own admission, yes.
No actually by your bias. You literally think SMT is high tier art and hate anything Japanese. So you refuse to let the anime lay on it because it's not as bas as those "icky jap things"
>But SMT hasn't had any
It does but okay
>you're biased for Persona and don't want to admit it's everything you hate.
Not even making sense but okay.
>Messiahs were created specifically to be the eyes of the Great Will
No they aren't and you got that from a fucking wiki. Final NEVER says that. Every single SMT protag is special in some way, messiahs, reincarnations, Or a literal demon and Jesus Christ. Or the wise men talking about how special you are

It's not even P5 fags, the #FE nigger has been doing this for years, he's genuinely autistic.

>it's a Persona Fire Emblem game
It's more Strange Journey X FE. The closest thing you have to Persona in it is probably having some dungeon downtime but it's not nearly as long as Persona is.

It actually is, you can view it in game. Also that still proves it's anime

Yes you do, otherwise you wouldn't be so hung over the fact #FE is better

No, not really. I prefer Devil Survivor for the most part. I just think #FE is for fags.

>At least Persona 5 is a good Persona game.
Not only is it the worst game in the series, it's the best SMT since it doesn't play like shit outside of Redux

I'm sorry for your shit taste. If it wasn't for the writing DeSu would be trash

Is it worth getting this game if I didn’t finish the original? I’m on Sector Delphinius and I’m getting a bit frustrated with the game.

The only thing worse than #fe fags are devil survivor fags

>#FEfag accuses others of having shit taste
Fucking lel

This was supposed to be a regular thread, sadly you can't say something is better than another as that insults their shitty game

Yes Redux is SJ but not shit

>Devil Survivor fags
>worse than Personafags
No matter how many times you repeat this, it just isn’t true.

Yeah, #FE is the cream of the crop to MegaTen. Sadly it still falls into the pitfall of instant recovery MP/HP

Posting that Persona 1 kino
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>this delusion
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>is because it's a borderline high school anime dating simulator.
That's not why it appeals to people nor is it even true. If it was, nobody would like it because the dating is such a small part of the game, and just because it's all a lot of discussion around the game revolves around doesn't change how minor that part of the game is. Persona has its issues, but it has a unique structure and flow to its gameplay that make it easy to spend hours playing it, and its novelty makes up for the areas its lacking in. I'd like to see a Persona game with better balancing seeing as that's the biggest issue I have with it, at least in terms of gameplay, but it's reductive and ignorant to call it a "borderline high school anime dating simulator" and its even more reductive to act like those very few dating scenes are the only reasons why anybody could like the games.

People would like them less if not for the VN half of the game, but acting as if it reflects poorly on the series that when you remove an enormous and defining characteristic of them the game becomes worse is retarded. Of course it would be worse, but the game isn't like that so acting like it's bad because of how bad it would be if it were like that doesn't say anything about the game at all.

What delusional? It's true

DeSufags barely exist though, I think bandwagoning P5babbies (the ones who only watched a let's play) are the real cancer infecting MegaTen.

Having fun playing PQ after SMT if..
The characters seem oddly in character though. Maybe they start acting awful once the party is introduced.

I wanna mating press Maki

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Kill yourself P5babby

All types of P5babbies are cancer and need to be wiped of the face of the plant

But user, she's mentally deranged.

P3fags

Sounds like the franchise in general when it comes to heated discussion.

You forgot to add P1fags near the top tier.

P1fags are a mixed bag, I find.

That's literally the best part

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There are plenty of DeSufags, especially in recent times.

Can we stop with the elitism and the pretentiousness for a sec. Is Strange Journey genuinely really great or not? In terms of gameplay. Don't try to meme me with "story and characters", I played SMT 1-4 and the writing were atrocious.

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It's not really this franchise specifically, it's just the nature of Yea Forums and Yea Forums in general.

>With lots of cyberpunk elements, yes
Again not really, yes they have the usual tech elements involved in demon summoning but it doesn't go much farther than that in any deep detail.
>No actually by your bias.
What bias?
Everything I've said is backed up by the games themselves and I haven't thrown my opinion in which is why you're currently making up this whole "icky jap things" nonsense.
Which means that you do believe Persona is anime ironically enough.
>It does but okay
Such as?
At best there's one or two trailers that don't appear in the games.
>Not even making sense but okay.
Are you even hearing yourself? Everything you're saying here is in defense of Persona because you don't like people saying it's anime even if what you're saying isn't backed up by the game themselves.
>No they aren't and you got that from a fucking wiki
Maybe someone should have played the DLC because they mention these things several times.

Yes, 10/10 dungeons with 8/10 combat

How so? I find they're so few in number that shitposting is practically nonexistent. See more P2fags who lump P1 into their arguments as ammo, honestly.

Yeah, that's more correct.

Them being so few in numbers is to their benefit, and like most series that don't have a lot of fans, what fans are there are usually fine because they don't have the attention on them to attract shitposting, but because Persona 1 is just a game with not many fans in a series with a lot of fans, I occasionally see P1fags who seem like they want to give off an image that they're above the fans of the other games in the series for liking one of the less popular games, and those posters aren't great. There's still not many of them, but when there's so few P1posters to begin with, it's hard not to see the few shitposters there are as representative of P1fags in general, at least to some degree.

Strange journey
>straight forward dungeon crawling
>unique dungeon designs

Persona 3
>slow progression in gameplay in favor of shoving visual novel
>dungeon designs are the same repeated garbage every floor

Its greatest strength is its tone and setting in my mind. Gameplay-wise its good enough, I'm not crazy about the fusion system and I think other games in the series have better combat, it does have pretty good dungeons, but they're generally not as good as EO dungeons.

>Every single SMT protag is special in some way, messiahs, reincarnations, Or a literal demon and Jesus Christ.
Not him but not really. Aside from probably the Demi-Fiend and maybe Aleph all of them are just regular people without any special powers in particular.

>I played 1-4 and the writing was atrocious
Imagine playing an SMT game for story.

>what is SMT 1 and 2?

flynn and nanashi too

Go easy on them, they're former Personafags. Story is all they think RPGs can offer.

That's false because there's tons of people who play Persona, simply for the Social Links.

Why? Because it's a FPS dungeon crawler? EO didn't invent that shit

>Again not really,
Have you even played II? It features advanced science, technology and cybernetics, coupled with a degree of breakdown or radical change in social order. It's not major but it's definitely has lots of elements
>Everything I've said is backed up by the games themselves
No they aren't because there is a animated opening in SMT. Trying to make up claims because you don't want SMT associated with anime is fucking embarrassing.
>Such as?
Scroll up
>because you don't like people saying it's anime even if what you're saying isn't backed up by the game themselves
Actually the point is claiming one isn't anime while one is even though they all use a Japanese style of art is fucking retarded but you don't have the mental capacity to see that far around
>Maybe someone should have played the DLC because they mention these things several times
They actually don't. Like once, the Diamond Realm DLC never says that.

I think it's great and I like how it's unlike anything else Meguro has done. It's very oppressive and militaristic, and some of the battle themes are really great, Chaos Battle is really great for example. The music added in Redux was all good too, especially The Great Sign.

Fuck, this thread is big

I wouldn't want one with SMT combat because I like the two to be distinct from one another, but I wish P5 had Smirking. It just seems like it would suit the personality of P5 in addition to just being a good mechanic as of IV:A.

>Flynn gets kidnapped, brainwashed and killed
>Nanashi literally dies at the start
>SMT 1 protag dies in the Diamond Realm DLC
It's just the Demifiend and Aleph.

At most only Hero isn't completely special. But all the others are. Even Jap Doomguy is special

in terms of what. Plot is the best I have experienced in the series, graphics were peak especially during ps2 era, OST was brilliant, gameplay was better than predecessors, and fighting lucifer was kino. Sure the game has flaws but it was the best game in the series.

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I hope they are. At least it would explain all the autism.

the people (arch angels?) at the start of the game literally call out to you calling you messiah, and I think nanashi is the reincarnation of akira or some shit

Smirk actually does fit the nature of Persona, and I'm surprised it wasn't forced into P5.

>Even Jap Doomguy is special
really, how so