>Heavy metal band Iron Maiden has launched legal action against game developer 3D Realms, publisher of retro first-person shooter Ion Maiden.
>Lawyers for the legendary British band want $2m (£1.58m) for the attempt "to trade off... Iron Maiden's notoriety", The Guardian reports.
>Ion Maiden (the game, not the band) has been available via Steam Early Access since February 2018, with a full release set for later this year. It stars bomb disposal expert Shelley Harrison, which the lawsuit argues is a nod to Iron Maiden member Steve Harris. It also has a skull in its logo, which the lawsuit suggests is a reference to band mascot Eddie.
Looks like this settles it, Judas Priest is better.
Oh fucking great, now it's never ever coming out. How do they even have grounds for a lawsuit? It's not the same name and it's not like there are Iron Maiden video games. Sounds like something they're gonna throw out of court.
Nicholas Rivera
good fuck nostalgia fags
Daniel Thompson
I like Iron Maiden and I'm gonna let you finish, but Painkiller is the best Metal album of all time. Of ALL time.
Tyler Perry
ion isn't the same as iron hnggg
IF ANYONE SHOULD SUE 3D realms it should be alice in chains BAKA...
I'm sure that this is just soulless suits being twats but because idiots keep parroting the false news that the band members themselves are suing they're getting a really bad name that they don't deserve. Don't believe it for a second unless Steve Harris issues a statement saying 'yes we really are pretty twats'.
Robert Allen
Yeahhhhh I don't know if they realized this, but 90% of the people playing this game will be too young to know of the existence of Iron Maiden
They're not going to win for the simple fact of the missing R in the game title.
Michael Cooper
Cool. Ion Maiden's developers and fans have been behind the as of late relentless shitposting against Blood and Duke Nukem 3D so this will keep them busy elsewhere.
Aiden Thomas
I already burnt my shirts and CDs. Fuck them.
Kayden Powell
What's this? Some sort of boomer band?
Brayden Thompson
The shitposting is from that retard spamming his shitty Duke 3D mod, who actively shits on IM.
Ayden Rivera
i wonder how they feel about hood trap niggas wearing bootleg eddie shirts now
The font does appear quite similar to the Iron Maiden font, gotta be honest. However fuck Iron Maiden, I grew up on their music, but this just makes them worse in my eyes.
Luis Williams
isn't iron maiden a medieval torture device? How can a band try to coopt a name that existed centuries before them and sue someone for using a different name?
Josiah Jackson
didn't that chink game pubg try the same shit a little while back?
Chase Campbell
it's really good, but Painkiller is pretty bitch ass simplistic vanilla sounding metal compared to what came out after that.
Jack Anderson
Filthy Acts at a Reasonable Price and Flaccid Pancake doesn’t sound so bad now.
Jackson Mitchell
Lawyers were most likely behind the idea in first place, so it's a win-win situation for them.
Kevin Ross
Blame said soulless suits for starting this non-sense and putting the band members in a bad light.
James Hughes
shit band shit game
Christian Allen
Is Iron Maiden retarded? Ion =/= Iron >one is an energy beam >the other is a metal
Benjamin Diaz
Metallica's beef with Napster had a gigantic coverage though, that's what fucked Metallica's image back then, I doubt Iron Maiden vs. 3D Realms will generate the same buzz.
Adam Lewis
>It also has a skull in its logo, which the lawsuit suggests is a reference to band mascot Eddie Bullshit reasoning. First of all, you can't claim the human skull or skeleton as intellectual property, unless it's been extremely heavily stylized (like the Punisher logo). Second, Eddie is a zombie, not a skeleton. He's got a recognizable face, not a skull. Though through the wonderous combination of drugs and dementia I guess it shouldn't surprise me these guys have forgotten what their own albums look like.
Andrew Ramirez
Does Ion Maiden have actual feminist supremacist propaganda and /or "men bad" undertones or is it just retards yelling "SJWs!" because female protagonist?
Robert Evans
No, user, you're just a closet faggot.
Samuel James
Yeah instead they'll just let the suits speak and make an ass of themselves on their behalf, that's so much better.
to be fair napster really fucked over alot of acts
Jack Wright
it's a torture device I guess, but it's not centuries old. No one used Iron Maidens to torture anyone, not in the middle ages, not ever. The idea is pretty "modern" and still way older than the band.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_maiden >The first stories citing the iron maiden were composed in the 19th century. The use of iron maidens is a myth from the 18th century that was heightened by the belief that people of the Middle Ages were uncivilized; evidence of their popularity is difficult to prove.
Benjamin Garcia
5 bucks says this is all the legal teams fault, and the band itself doesn't even know this game exists.
Mason Nguyen
It's that one idiot who's butthurt that Shelly isn't running around with her tits out.
Gabriel Baker
It doesn't. One guy like a year ago said the old 90's concept art of the character was problematic because she had nice big tits and very little clothes.
You know, how we all used to like seeing women in our male majority media before the kikes and feminists took over.
the credits literally say "thank you for playing (unless you're white and/or male)"
Evan King
I've never played it because I don't buy early access, but don't you just shoot things? How is it SJW?
Nathaniel Young
Judas Priest was always better, a much more varied discography. Mostly the 70s albums and Painkiller that are truly top notch though.
Nathaniel Foster
>supporting a literal leather bound cock sucking faggot
Jace Roberts
which shitty mod and does it have tits(that aren't already present in dook)
William Nelson
Rock bands always reach a point they go senile and start suing everybody, it's literally inevitable. Just remember the good tunes and forget they still exist, it's always at the point everybody has they think this kind of lawsuit is a good idea anyway.
Levi Reyes
Can a band really have someone initiating a lawsuit before asking your consent?
Andrew Bell
>sjw trash is that because the main protagonist is a stronk female? if so, have sex.
Christopher Thomas
I hope you are conveniently omitting based Defenders of the Faith just to force me to reply.
Robert Thomas
Yes, but it was the dawn of mp3 file sharing, the public was pissed about Metallica just trying to put a halt to the gold rush of file sharing, legal ramifications be dammed.
Sebastian Brooks
Absolute nonsense. The name clearly falls under the fair use act as parody. Fucking guitar bands are the most litigious babies.
Brandon Bell
Wasn't an enemy in Resident Evil 4 named Iron Maiden? Should they sue Capcom too?
Isaiah Hughes
So what will they settle and change the name to?
>Ion Lady >Ion Lass >Ion >Bombshell 3D
Nathan Campbell
Technically yes if the record label, manager, etc. can speak for the band, there are times a band don't actually own themselves anymore.
Hudson Jackson
I should listen to music that isn't anime or videogame songs. I think I'm missing out cool sounds.
Cooper Hall
That's retarded. You can't trademark skulls.
Benjamin Howard
It's a great album (Screaming For Vengeance as well, and except for that shit heap Nostradamus they've had sursprisingly high quality after the reunion, though a bit stagnant). I even like they're wonky horseshit with synths and drum machines in the late 80s a bit, it's a rather unique sound at least. Sad Wings of Destiny up to Killing Machine and then Painkiller remains their peak stuff tho
Aiden Hernandez
Yes it does actually. It also has a gun that you can shoot enemies with that turns them into babes.
Carson Young
Well, it's more like trademark, but that's just madness.
Owen Baker
absolutely, that faggot is more of a man than anyone here will ever be
Brayden Bailey
There would have to be some consultation, but their lawyers wouldn't have such good careers if they weren't damn good at persuading and wrapping everything in boring legal talk.
Jaxon Nelson
He's also been shitting on Blood lately after Fresh Supply was released
Tyler Rogers
They are suing on what they percieve to be a combination of stuff though (heavy metal theme, skulls), not just the name. It's ridiculous as it is but not even them would be retarded enough to sue any media ever to use the name "Iron Maiden" with no ryme or reason.
John Sanchez
He's taken enough pozzed loads in his ass I'm sure his testosterone's levels are a billion % higher than mine sure
James Bennett
To be fair the whole reason that started was that they heard a leaked demo on the radio and wanted to know how they got ahold of it. Was still very gay of them to deliver the list of screennames though.
Logan Martinez
Do it this time, Pete, I'm begging you.
David Cooper
That actually does happen a surprising amount, yeah. Once you sell your intellectual property and merchandise the fuck out of yourself that's the risk you take.
Kevin Watson
Do Iron Maiden really have to worry about money? Don't they carry around 2 million as pocket money?
Logan Ortiz
Its not fair use parody, its comepletely distinct.
Dominic Young
Wouldn’t this count as satire? Making this lawsuit a complete waste of money on all sides.
Jordan Peterson
People talk about how Maiden has some good later albums (Brave New World and the new one Book of Souls get talked up a lot) but they'll never have a comeback as hard as Judas Priest did with Painkiller. They'd released that shitheap Turbo and then Ram It Down which was half good songs and half pure shite, but then right as they were starting to be seen as irrelevant they pull out the best album of their career.
Angel Ortiz
>Reeeee stop being gay Grow up you manchild, or are you afraid you have more similarities with Rob than you are willing to admit?
Gavin Allen
Gets thrown out of court.
Wyatt Jenkins
No in all honesty this is probably Bruce's doing. Bruce is 90% business and 10% show but he squeezes all he can out during live shows. Don't be fooled though this mans knife hand is strong and he is not above being petty over things like this.
real talk, how come they can sue this game for having a similar name, but jojo can get away with characters and stands having the EXACT SAME NAMES as other proprieties?
Eli Gomez
>inb4 duke3d mod autist comes out of the woodwork again to try and hijack the thread
Metallica had more millions than they knew what to with it years ago too, didn't stop them from going full force against Napster. In fact being a millionaire/billionaire makes one more eager to sue, either to legit protect your brand or just be a cunt, sometimes both.
Leo Gomez
Iron Maiden is gay for doing this but they have a lot of great songs.
He didn't say stop being gay. He just pointed out that the dude is gay, and hence he isn't that much of a man.
Brayden Gray
They shouldn't win anyway considering that Iron Maidens were something the band took their name from anyway.
Wyatt Young
Characters and stands get renamed in western markets when they are too specific. Like Iced/Chilled Ice.
Ryder Davis
I hope no one in the game is wearing a mask or else Slipknot will be jumping on that suit too.
Jordan Bennett
>its comepletely distinct.
Don’t fool yourself just because the band is being frivolous. It’s clearly a parody. To deny this is almost concerningly idiotic.
Jeremiah Gray
Calling Painkiller a comeback is a stretch. They were at the height of their popularity during the 80s. Maybe by the time they released Painkiller it had weakened a bit, but they were still a top act.
Juan Watson
Because you can always sue, a judge just laughing at it and telling you to fuck off is a completely different matter.
Nathan Kelly
Trump said, fuck America and fuck white people, on the phone to someone while walking through the lobby. Shocking.
Jaxson Bell
>1c
isn't this literally Russian mafia
Owen Ortiz
>lars killed metallica by being a supercilious cunt about napster. lars killed metallica when he lost creativity
Isaiah Clark
The font is nothing like it.
Kevin Garcia
Really? Bruce always seemed really chill to me. Do you have any examples of him being petty and litigious?
Connor Price
Just calling it Bombshell would be neat, especially if they had one of her older designs. but is what will happen.
Kayden Cooper
It really did come across like they hated their own fans, even after watching that documentary from the time. I still don't understand why they didn't try to go after the people that recorded and leaked the demo in the first place, only in Lars' distorted mind can attacking some filesharing program (before most people even have internet) sound like a reasonable course of action.
Ethan Bell
Japan's copyright laws must be more lax or have some workarounds, but Jojo names always get changed for the western market if they are music and band references.
Alexander Bailey
Ironic May Den
Samuel Wright
Lars was never the creative force behind Metallica. Mustaine, Hetfield and Burton always provided much more input.
Eli Martin
Ion Maiden is a parody of Iron Maiden, which makes it fair use.
Why are you disagreeing? Are you retarded and think it’s not a parody? Am I having a stroke?
Nolan Bell
Probably because they leaked it on purpose to be able to sue someone hosting it
Caleb Perez
c'mon, not even defending Iron Maiden, but the font is similar. No letters have curves and they all have sharp edges, both fonts use thick letters
James Hall
Definitely, and there's a very good chance the band actually had nothing to do with this.
Cameron Myers
just trademark bullying it won't hold up in court, although it was filed in california so who knows
Parker Ward
I've always thought this too
Luke Johnson
if you believe konami, bandai namco and sega are also japanese mafia
Matthew Long
>Folder Is that album or band name?
Mason Baker
>pleb metal gets asshurt by vidya Listen to Blind Guardian instead, boys.
Kevin Nelson
>I, Ron Meydan They make him a man and call him Ron Meydan, talking about how bullshit some certain metal band is.
iron maidens are a real thing that existed in history. their kike lawyers have to prove it's not just a reference to that. the bomb looks nothing like eddie, there's no indication that it's a reference it's just a generic skull. they're just being cunts
Lucas Reyes
Slipknot sued Burger King for exactly that. Their chicken fries adverts had a metal theme with people wearing masks.
Xavier Watson
They should include a secret level that takes a jab at Maiden, like setting it inside of a 747.
James Scott
Now, it's a bit of a special case because of what part of the world I live in, but I've been to a few Iron Maiden concerts and they tend to have a lot of young people in them.
Hell, one concert even had a giant group of kids join them on stage.
Juan Harris
yeah, that font is also purposely similar to Iron Maiden font because the developers were huge metal heads.
Brayden Garcia
>Ion Maiden (the game, not the band) You know it's a bullshit case if you can drop the parenthetical clarification without losing any information. Ion Maiden is a stronger example of a name which qualifies for Trademarking than Iron Maiden.
Alien Armageddon is unironically better than Ion Maiden.
Ayden Martin
only children listen to metal
Sebastian Long
I just watched that doc yesterday, Lars is such a prick in it. I felt bad for James even though he unfairly fucked over Jason's side project.
Ethan Roberts
>calls Iron Maiden pleb >promotes fucking Blind Guardian how can you say this with a straight face?
Brayden Howard
>thinking you can use something with barely any changes and claim parody fair use You need to be able to demonstrate an attempt to satirise, critique, or otherwise make comment on. You cant just use iconography for the sake of it. 3d Realms will get HEEMED and it will be glorious
Nathan Scott
>Le California Boogieman. XD
Dylan Torres
newer cuck 3D Realms deserves this shit, i hope frederick schriber finally learns his lesson for not leaking DNF 2001 when the iron was hot, fuck you frederick fuck you right in your ion cuck maiden ass.
Luis Anderson
This. Iron maiden are still huge across generations.
Matthew Flores
Good, fuck Ion Maiden I started hating it as soon as I saw that it had meme references
Leo Ortiz
That's Cult of a Dying Sun by UADA. I just grabbed the picture without changing the filename.
Parker Sullivan
Iron Maiden is not that obscure, everybody knows (at least by name) dadrock metalfans just wants to pretends that what they are listening to is obscure and better than any other genre, especially rap
Jose Scott
people say the dumbest shit here because they overhear something and ego stroke even though they don't know anything about what they're saying but also while posting anonymously which doesn't make sense
Jose Hill
real question are the developers idiots? don't they know about copyright? I thought that it was a game based in iron maiden, they even said that there a song that could be in the game and fit perfectly...
Camden Diaz
i don't sounds boring as fuck
Zachary Young
They have all chances to win. Dont pretend like the first thing you think about is that torture device, when you hear 'ion maiden'.
Lucas Mitchell
It is on same engine as blood, shadow warrior and duke nukem. But developer has taken engine to absolute limit.
Joshua Thompson
what is petty or litigious here?
Jackson Wood
Numetal is rap metal so good shit.
Wyatt Rodriguez
Why the fuck do Yea Forumsermin like you think that you can only be aware of media that was created after you were born?
>You need to be able to demonstrate an attempt to satirise, critique, or otherwise make comment on.
Satire is so easy to claim in defense that it’s the reason comedy can get away with everything except FCC violations. Satire has a very broad definition.
Gavin Cook
Metallica have 4 good albums and Mustaine wrote the best songs of the first two.
Leo Morgan
Don't be fooled by James's supposedly nice guy facade. He's as much of a cunt as Lars, but instead of being a cunning gremlin he is a meathead bully.
Camden Clark
But I'm right. I constantly see Yea Forumstards say shit like that. Like: >oh a teenager nowadays wouldn't know what a gameboy is
Aaron Diaz
>dadrock
Scary how "Dadrock" keeps getting pushed forward. Dad rock used to be beatles, then it was led zepplin. Now it's Iron maiden, which is more late 70's and mid 80's. Thats only like 3 years behind A Flock of Seagulls.
David Lewis
You can't just take the name of somebody else's work and slap it onto an unrelated product...except when you can do exactly that.
These days it is common knowledge that Mustaine was the most important member of the band. He was a deranged druggie but he was 10x a better songwriter and player than every other member. Hetfield only matured as a songwriter in AJFA.
Kayden Turner
They aren't trying to win, they are just going to sink the studio with the legal fees
Leo Williams
Lars being a prick was definitely what I took away from it too, especially that scene with him and Mustaine. He's also clearly losing his mind under his own regret, disappointment and inadequacy and takes it out on everyone else pretending like he gives a shit about 'quality'. It's no surprise he was in that headspace when he decided on the lawsuit.
Ryan Sanchez
Eventually.
Ryder Martin
>implying
Julian Allen
There are kids like that out there though. I work with a guy whose first console was a PS2 with Kingdom Hearts 2. You really expect all young people to know a handheld Nintendo from the late 80s?
Anthony Sullivan
>Mustaine is credited on six Metallica songs, two of which he wrote mostly himself and four of which he contributed.
>Ride the Lightning - Mustaine wrote a single riff that appears before Hammet's solo. >Call of Ktulu - To what extent is not known, but Mustaine wrote a part of the intro.
well, when mustaine left the band, metallica died...
Gabriel Parker
Staind and Creed are already at that point dude.
Evan Scott
Considering the Gameboy Advance was concurrent to the PS2 and fully backwards compatible, yes.
Logan Brown
>Dad rock used to be beatles, then it was led zepplin Both of those bands used to be active at the same time.
Jaxon Cook
Kirk, Jason and Trujillo are the only guys that come across well to be honest. Really seemed like chill guys that just wanted to make good music that kept getting caught up in bullshit drama with them both.
Levi Mitchell
>You really expect all young people to know a handheld Nintendo from the late 80s? If they have more than a passing interest in video games, then they would probably read about them online.
Leo Clark
Unreal.
Gabriel Ramirez
Iron Maiden fucking sucks
Josiah Russell
>when Cliff died the band died FTFY
Jaxson Mitchell
that's gay and you are a faggot, homosexual kid.
Hudson Anderson
what
Ayden Fisher
yeah bro after mustaine left metallica died and totally didnt release ride the lightning, master of puppets, and justice for all albums
megadeth doesnt have a single great song from start to finish keep it down dave
Ryder Walker
They've got to pay for their PReP somehow.
Anthony Myers
With the nature of trademark law even of they dont want to fo this, they have to.
Colton Jenkins
You're the sheltered one then. There's no expectation or requirement for young people (or old) to learn of the past, so you shouldn't be surprised when whippersnappers don't know what's up. What you think is common knowledge very quickly turns out to be uncommon knowledge given a few years.
Oliver Brown
>Kirk and Trujillo are the only guys that come across well to be honest. Really seemed like chill guys that just wanted to make good music that kept getting caught up in bullshit drama with them both. FTFY
Parker Williams
I don't want to start a megadeth vs metallica shitflinging contest so I'm just going to give you a big YIKES and we are done here.
Jose Gray
>Mustaine Maybe in 1983 but after that, Hetfield does ~80% of the work. He writes almost all the riffs though Hammett came up with some good ones too, like the main riff to Trapped Under Ice, the chorus riff in Disposable Heroes, and of course the main riff to Enter Sandman, which Lars also contributed to.
Connor Price
Run to the Hills is their only good song anyway.
Parker Long
The only thing Lars did was insist on accentuating his dogshit drumming on Saint Anger. And we all know how that turned out.
David Howard
I never understood that even Mustaine says that Metallica is better than Megadeth
Daniel Brooks
He drinks too much. Also how does he have so much time to stream if he has his own firm??
Jace Kelly
>I went to a megadeth concert one time and it was really great
Metallica gathered all their momentum while Mustaine was still in the band. They rode that hype for the rest of their careers.
Dominic Garcia
I remember the first time I heard Nirvana on our biggest classic rock station. I wanted to fucking an hero.
Jace Wood
What age is this person who was born? If it was around 98, they would have seen it even if they were not a user.
Hudson Martin
His parents were the type of believers where only allowed type of medication of kind for them was prayer. So the worst kind. He also seemed he was a shut-in(also possibly bullied) that needed Dave to do the talking between songs when he was still in the band and hit of booze before he could even perform that lead to the whole Alcoholica thing. And then they hit rockstardom that got way into his head.
Not condoning anything but just saying how he became what he is.
Oliver Cooper
Holy shit this image is amazing.
Thomas Young
Yeah, nah, those are all excuses. He was already a douchebag before his alcoholism got bad. He admits to using his large frame to try to intimidate people when he didn't get his way. He was always a meathead bully.
John Johnson
So after this gets thrown out, do you think they'll update the game with some Iron Maiden parody stuff to take the piss?
Thomas Roberts
you can use it if you like do your really like it?
Brayden Nelson
>gives his music away for free >uploads it to torrents himself >hey if you like it pay whatever you want
Nope You can literally use samples from songs but unless it bares are resemblance in nature it isn't a copy. Iron Maiden is copyrighted as a brand. They can't copyright the name because an Iron Maiden is a thing that exists.
So as long as Ion Maiden doesn't have an Eddie wannabe or feature songs/samples by Iron Maiden they are fine.
Lincoln Miller
I hope they do.
Kayden Green
oh! that is the guy that write the Johnny Cash song, right??
Wyatt Cruz
And Sony to the company developing Bleem!
Camden Ross
>tfw have had a lossless version of this in its own folder for years for easy access and never tire of listening to it I can never go back to the studio album one. The way the open air and walls of the concert hall affect the acoustic, the audience participation, to me they're now part of the song that drastically improve it.
Cash did a cover of his song and after hearing that version Trent Reznor said it isnt his song anymore because the Johnny Cash version was so much better.
This is really fucking weird coming from the band whose response to piracy of their albums was to find out where their stuff was the most pirated and schedule tours there.
Anthony Edwards
oh shit it's one of the guys that made doom 1 and 2
You guys think this might be silly but think about it, what if someone makes a console called Ninbendo? Or Somy? Or Plystation?
Lucas Clark
It's either senility or lawyers of corporations they sold their soul to, either way it sucks.
Ryan Torres
Those three are actively trying to confuse the buyer though, if you had either of those names for a band no one would actually care or even be able to do anything
Jace Russell
Wouldn't that be more like a band named Poly Station?
Jacob Garcia
Ion Maiden isnt trying to copy Iron maiden though
Jaxon Ortiz
That song has nothing in common with the novel. Iron Savior's on the other hand...
Henry Davis
The name of the game is too similar. They could get away with it if the game had a meideval theme and focused on actual Iron Maidens. But it's a metal themed game with a similar title and a simlar character name.
I think the game's title is going to be changed. Character name can stay.
Ryan Cook
Doubtful it'll actually go anywhere interesting. At most Nick would mention it and forget about it. Narcolepsy. Also he deliberately cut back his hours as an attorney in his nowhere town specifically to do youtube streams. He gets a fuckton of cash in superchats every night.
Luis Flores
>imagine listening to metal past the age of 18
Blake Morales
THEN COMES THE SOUND OF THE GUNS SENDING FLAK
James Rogers
RELEASE WHEN
Charles Foster
Iron Maiden to this game still does world wide tours and fills up stadiums making millions and millions.
Why are they suing some game company for a mere 2 million dollars?
When you become a business, you become letigeous to protect your IP.
Jaxson Young
Because they can. They're bringing heavy metal back to the mainstream.
Easton Cook
To be fair Lars had a point in the scene with Dave. Guy became a multimillionaire with Megadeth and is known among the best metal guitarists ever, and he STILL holds a grudge?
Landon Johnson
Nah he grew out of that around the St. Anger era. Now he's a dad who just wants to hunt and be happy with his kids.
Joshua Torres
Is there a living man more based than Carmack? I feel like he's done so much cool shit while always having that smug expression on his face.
Alexander Turner
Kirk is truly based. In the documentary he's by far the most chill guy and always tries to defuse the arguments. Also Dave Mustaine fucking hates him for taking his job and playing his solos on Kill Em All, but instead of biting back he just let that situation be.
Adam Bennett
Firstly this just gonna get thrown right the fuck outta court, secondely im pretty sure theres gonna be some kino jokes and one liners thrown into the game dabbing the FUCK all over iron maiden after this. >shelly stumble across an actual antique iron maiden in a museum >she opens it >its full of shit
what stopping them from having a vaguely similar character just to shit on him?
Mason Flores
Mustane's counterpoint to that was that he didn't give a shit and he held a grudge because, in the fallout, he lost his close friend from childhood in Lars. Dave was trying to appeal to Lars' humanity and considering he handled it by repeatedly saying "B-b-but you're famous!" he showed it had withered away. There's also the fact Dave pleaded with them not to put it in the movie and they did anyway.
Blake Hughes
Does it still cost them lots of legal fees if the judge just throws it out of court?
Liam Harris
Come on dude, there are plenty of 20th century bands that will be known forever, but Iron Maiden isn't one of them.
Robert Evans
considering an Iron maiden is a physical object from the 18th century, this will be thrown out immediately
Connor Cooper
I just realized my complete retardation
Daniel Robinson
No band is better than Judas Priest, this is a fact don't argue it.
Logan Smith
They have a case. They could get away with having the character's name being a gender-swapped refernece, and the general metal theme. But they couldn't get away with the name of the game being too similar. These combine make a real case.
They will settle out of court, and the game's name will be changed. That's my prediction.
Brandon Martinez
Judas Priest for for homosexuals.
Connor Cook
why hasnt ac/dc sued electricty company for selling there shit? why hasnt metalica sued BHP for mining metals? why havent the sex pistols sued your mom and dad for having sex? this will just get chucked out in court
Chase Bailey
>for for t. litigious maidenfag
Jordan Scott
It's an ACDC parody you retard.
There's an entire category of fonts called gothic that are often used in rock album covers.
Jonathan Smith
doesn't matter whats truth or fair or not, if indie game getting sued, their lives are essentially ruined by the dipshit suing them. Welcome to fucking law 2019
Charles Smith
Taking down some SJW faggots is what they gain
Robert Stewart
>Ion Maiden >SJW ???
Lincoln Price
>american band sues >say nothing >british band sues >DUDE FUCK BRITAIN LMAO
Michael Long
Go read all the dumb shit the devs say on steam and what not
Juan Wilson
>people cheering this because "muh politics" Come on you faggots, put aside your "[X] POLITICAL GROUP IS GETTING BTFO YESYESYES" goggles for a second and observe this situation for the objectively retarded copyright trolling it really is. You're like those idiots that were legitimately in favor of rolling back net neutrality because liberals happened to be upset about it.
And literally no one plays it for whatever sjw shit they say
Josiah Myers
>devs says retarded shit on social media ok? does that affect the quality of the game in any way?
Chase Nelson
Furthermore you're a fucking loser (and I know I'm on Yea Forums but even still) if you sit there and catalog the sociolpolitical views of game developers to make sure you're allowed to enjoy their products. Do you live your entire life in this ideological bubble? Do you refuse to drink water filtered by someone who tweeted something negative about Trump?
Pure autism.
Nathaniel Sanders
The main character's name is different enough and IM has no 'metal theme,' in its music or aesthetic.
Carter Reyes
Nobody was talking about the game quality tard
Jaxson Harris
never underestimate the greed of (((lawyers)))
Robert Jenkins
I don't disagree with your general statement, but there's nothing political about Ion Maiden.
Aiden Turner
I hate that Rock and Metal get put under the same umbrella. They're different genres with different philosophies.
Iron Maiden is Dadmetal not Dadrock
Gavin Baker
They don't, but the label's legal team is basically hired to do thuggery like this among other things. The great thing is that the band doesn't necessarily even need to know that this is happening, the label has all the rights to go through with something like this and sink some pissant game development studio just for an exercise.
Jackson Gomez
Nirvana plays on classic stations because Nirvana appeals to the same kind of hot topic nu-male hipsters who like the Beatles.
Aaron Cook
The whole IP system has become a cancer worse than the problem it was trying to solve. So let me get this straight. A band who named themselves after an already existing object are suing people for using a name which rhymes with theirs? Fucking hell I hope iron maiden(tm) lose spectacularly.
Wyatt Wright
Ok? then why bring the fact devs say dumb shit if it doesnt affect the game?
Unless that shit affects the game then its pointless to point that out
Zachary Jenkins
NONE of that was the devs you mcnigger it was the publishers. One of the devs even asked them to stop using their game as a political tool. STOP BEING A NIGGERLORD
Do you not know how to follow a simple fucking Yea Forums reply chain god damn. Fucking morons. You people prove to be everyday just how dumb you liberals and sjw types really are.
Leo Fisher
but YOU are the poofta >poofters gonna pooft
>no shoes someone stop this mad man
Luke Anderson
Nope. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if she's Duke Nukem's daughter with those one liners.
Luke Martin
Not much. It's the same as using samples from music it's ambiguous.
It may literally come down to a judge saying "yeah that's similar enough" to rule against
Jackson Rogers
Most people don't have any understanding of the scope or purpose of IP laws. You, for example, don't even know the difference between copyright and trademarks.
David Bell
Youre the type of person who whines when there arent niggers in your game arent you
its funny how the ion maiden fags are on hushmode after the thread isnt made by the autistic duke mod faggot
Gavin Cruz
holy shit im so glad you said nigger, you cant be a /leftypol/ tranny in that case no really, blow your brains out
Jacob Perez
Really wish they stuck with this design. Or one of the others similar to it.
Jordan Robinson
did you read a single word in that post besides the word nigger?
Cameron Sullivan
Totally agreed, I'd rather buy a $120 mutliplayer only game that will be dead within a year when the next installment is released.
Blake Harris
How can one post be so wrong?
Asher Long
>skull in the logo >legally actionable Sounds like they have a lot of lawsuits to file. Bruce was better on his own than with maiden anyways, even balls to Picasso outshone the best iron maiden album
Meanwhile: >The Spanish Inquisition has launched legal action against Heavy metal band Iron Maiden.
>Lawyers for the legendary Tribunal want $2m (£1.58m) for the attempt "to trade off... Iron Maiden's notoriety", The Guardian reports.
>Iron Maiden (the band, not the torture device) has been playing music since 1975.
I know I know the spanish inquisition did never use Iron Maidens
Lincoln Perez
Dadmetal is shit. If you are nostalgic for some fucking Metallica or Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin you might as well kill yourself. Shit was Nickelback of its era, but now retards are worshipping it like it's a forgotten masterpiece.
Austin Reed
Painkiller is overrated as fuck
It’s not very good
Priest is ok but not in the same world as Maiden
This lawsuit is lame but shit is pretty similar. The aesthetic is very much like maidens album covers.
Henry Powell
Did you eat paint chips as a child?
Levi Brooks
This is it, the worst post I have read.
Please provide me with some bands you like. I’d love to know what the kid who tries to music snob it up on a Taiwanese cartoon website thinks is good lol
William Scott
Mudvayne and Slipknot are way better.
Aaron Wright
Thought it was complete horseshit until I saw that logo. Now I kind of see where they're coming from. Still bullshit though, and I can't see how this wouldn't fall under parody.
Nathaniel Campbell
Yeah why dont you go back to listening to your mumble rap kid.
Aaron Cook
Rob is a fag but gotta admit - He's much better than bruce. Judas Priest is better
Parker Morales
>t. dad rock faggot zoomer You’re not unique for discovering shit rock on youtube homo, you’re just a weirdo.
Nathaniel Brown
Godspeed you! Black Emperor My Bloody Valentine Stars of the Lid Sigur Ros Can Boris Wardruna
Austin Sanchez
Not him, but you got really bad taste in music. In fact, I think you might have some hearing issues if you think that is drivel good
the guy you replied to is retarded and again doesn't know what he is talking about, just like most people don't know anything about the video games they post here about take a look >mudvayne
Dave is just humble >peace sells=master puppets>rust peice>the rest
Josiah Thompson
>game dev makes shitty retro fps game called ion maiden right after iron maiden make shitty retro fps game >game's protagonist is even named after iron maiden member Maybe, and bear with me here, maybe they are suing them because they don't want to be associated with that piece of shit rather than being greedy.
Christopher Torres
>right after iron maiden make shitty retro fps game What are you even talking about you lying retard?
Jack Perry
Absolutely not, even if it's a reference to the band it falls under free use since it's not about the band. It'd be like Lucas arts trying to sue suda 51 over the laser sword in NMH
John Parker
40k managed to copyright large pauldrons and skulls.
Isaac Watson
F
Ayden Myers
So there isn't already a thread. Thanks for nothing, faggot.
Ryder James
Iron Maiden is dope. Fuck 3d Realms!
Joseph Hernandez
Did you spend almost 4 hours looking for that thread and just now realized it was deleted?
Louder, Japanese Sabbath is Church of Misery, though. Boris is pretty much Japanese Melvins. youtube.com/watch?v=BVEob6Ed6j0
Grayson Barnes
> >Because people get older over time. Same reason why Nirvana plays on classic rock stations. But Nirvana is rock music, and it's classic What's the problem, realizing you're getting old?
James Campbell
Now I feel like listening to some Iron Maiden and playing Doom
WHITE MAN CAME ACROSS THE SEA HE BROUGHT US PAIN AND MISERY
Have a recording of Steve Harris complaining about Frank Herbert threatening a lawsuit of a name.
Wyatt Phillips
The song is about the Natives. Regardless of what judgement you make about their current situation, it happened.
Jordan Evans
If they've got any political leaning it's largely anti war. That song in particular has one stanza from the native's perspective, one from the perspective of American cavalry, and one that's kind of neutral. >Riding through dustlands and barren waste, galloping hard on the plains >Chasing the redskins back to their holes >Fighting them at their own game
So you decide what you like based on what someone anonymously said on Yea Forums? You're naive and have a lot of growing up to do still, it seems.
Aiden Miller
This shitshow reminds me of Zenimax taking some indie devs to the court just because their game had word "Prey" in its name. After the lawsuit was finished those indie devs renamed their game simply by changing word "Prey" to "Praey". Almost the same thing will be done in case of Ion Maiden, 3DRealms and Voidpoint will rename the game while leaving all the stuff the same. Trying to win against the moneybags is not worth the time and money.
Andrew Jenkins
>You can literally use samples from songs Not if you want to make money. Trap artist Bauuer had to give all the money he earned from the Harlem Shake to the person whose voice is sampled in the song
Jackson White
Don't tell them about Doom's font.
Joshua Ramirez
It was just a joke.
Grayson Nelson
Ah, sorry
Austin Baker
>Zenimax sues the makers of the Dead Sea Scrolls because "it sorta looks similar to The Elder Scrolls if you squint, it has scrolls in the name and we own that trademark."
Camden Phillips
How can the developers be against duke nukem 3d when they created the source port of eduke32 and maintained it for over a decade?
>I only listen to real dadrock like emerson lake and palmer and jethro tull
Jayden Reed
The female model named 'Gina' is the default Prisoner 849. You can change it but you have to go through the options and select a different model.
Bentley Rogers
Iron Maidens are a fucking object
James Thompson
Bands your dad forced you to listen to on the way to school so therefore you think are legit good bands starter pack: >Iron Maiden >Metallica >ACDC >The Doors >Led Zeppelin >Slayer >Megadeth
Fortunately my mother had better taste: >Type O Negative >Soundgarden >Alice in Chains >Nirvana >Days of the New >Pearl Jam >Stone Temple Pilots (Core album)
This isn't real, right? I mean the term 'iron maiden' refers to a torture device resembling a metal sarcophagus lined with spikes which surely predates the 1970's theatric metal band from England.
This will be thrown out and is a waste of everyones time and money. A judge will look at this and look at Iron Maidens lawyers and tell them to fuck off and find something better to do. 1. Iron Maiden does not own the term "iron maiden" it is an existing thing they have named their band after, they have no ownership of the title "iron maiden" or anything even hinting at such unless it is a band 2. the game has absolutely nothing, and I mean nothing, in relation to Iron Maiden mythos so how is it trying to ride on their name. It would be different if it was a band that was doing it and making music under an intentionally similar name, this is a videogame that has nothing to do with Iron Maiden in any way at all 3. Does Iron Maiden own fucking skulls now? Eddie is a zombie, not a skeleton, what the fuck is this grasping bullshit, do they seriously think they can pull skull imagery as being theirs because their mascot is a zombie? What in the actual fuck is happening. This is an argument of percieved association, all Ion maidens developers need to say is "I havent heard of them and its all incedental" and the case falls apart, this whole ting operates on the assumption that the developers are going out of their way to ape off Iron Maidens image.
I just cant get over the skull thing, that is some galaxy brain level shit.
Tyler Howard
There is an Iron Maiden mobile game. This is why they are suing.
Parker Phillips
the word “teenagers” was never used until just before the Beatles arrived on the scene, courtesy of the Tavistock Institute for Human Relations.
As in the case of gang wars, nothing could or would have been accomplished without the cooperation of the media, especially the electronic media and, in particular, the scurrilous Ed Sullivan who had been coached by the conspirators as to the role he was to play. Nobody would have paid much attention to the motley crew from Liverpool and the 12-atonal system of “music” that was to follow had it not been for an overabundance of press exposure. The 12-atonal system consisted of heavy, repetitive sounds, taken from the music of the cult of Dionysus and the Baal priesthood by Adorno and given a “modern” flavor by this special friend of the Queen of England and hence the Committee of 300.
Tavistock and its Stanford Research Center created trigger words which then came into general usage around “rock music” and its fans. Trigger words created a distinct new break-away largely young population group which was persuaded by social engineering and conditioning to believe that the Beatles really were their favorite group. All trigger words devised in the context of “rock music” were designed for mass control of the new targeted group, the youth of America.
The Beatles did a perfect job, or perhaps it would be more correct to say that Tavistock and Stanford did a perfect job, the Beatles merely reacting like trained robots “with a little help from their friends”–code words for using drugs and making it “cool.”
The Beatles became a highly visible “new type”– more Tavistock jargon–and as such it was not long before the group made new styles (fads in clothing, hairstyles and language usage) which upset the older generation, as was intended. This was part of the “fragmentation-maladaptation” process worked out by Willis Harmon and his team of social scientists
Shit doesn't matter. Iron Maiden got the money to keep the lawsuit going. 1C, 3DRealms and Voidpoint don't.
Carson Ortiz
He does not drink too much lmao
Alexander Johnson
That red-tinted nose says otherwise
Luis Bailey
This faggot deserves a bashing.
Isaiah Richardson
This
Dylan Peterson
This. The best thing in all of this is that it gives exposure to the game it otherwise would have NEVER EVER gotten.
it's basically free publicity for 3D Realms and the game.
Christopher Clark
>net neutrality Sounds nice doesnt it? I mean the name sounds nice. Too bad it was anything but neutral. Just like the "affordable care act" nice names sound nice! Tell me do you use a landlines and cable TV, like your not neutrality would have turned your shit into?
Hudson Murphy
>no R in the name means it's a completely different property and copyright isn't infringed upon >Iron maiden isn't an orignal name in it's own right, they took their name off a well known torture device >making thinly vield references isn't a sign of respect, rather infringing on copyright
Combined with the fact they aren't even in the same fields thus aren't deemed competition, there's very little chance this case goes anywhere. Which was one of the major factors in why Domino Sugar lost their case against Domino's Pizza.
Brayden Morales
Please pete, I'm so tired
Matthew Cook
Let's take a little break and just accept this is their best album, okay?
>You're like those idiots that were legitimately in favor of rolling back net neutrality because liberals happened to be upset about it.
>SOPA bill get put on table >Internet gets mad because the American government tries to increase their control over the internet. >t's defeated >Years later Obama pushes through an act that inceases American government regulation/control of the internet under a innocent sounding name as to not raise suspicion from the useful idiots >A government gets into power that actually wants to wind back government control of the internet >Usful idiots all cry out together, not understanding a single thing, all because the bill has an innocent sounding name.
William Thomas
Queens of the stone age
Now your turn, post a band you like it
Daniel Garcia
Ayreon
Dominic Thomas
Bruce Dickinson is the kind of top lad who would put a stop to this if it was brought to his attention As autistic and naive as it sounds, it might be good to try and make him aware of this fuckery
It's just a bit odd that there is no rocket launcher or energy based weapon (yet). We're already up to 8 keys used for weapons. They could pay to remove the grenade launcher spot and replace it since it it just an alt-fire mode for the shotgun.
>singer sounds like he's choking on a dick It sure is
Julian Edwards
I remember that. pretty fucking based. carpenter is in my top 5 directors of all time. just yesterday I rewatched Big Trouble In Little China. I just wished he would do one more masterpiece, but that will probably never happen since he is too old and too jaded at the movie industry and would rather smoke weed and play games.
Connor Hernandez
How did my post imply that I was butthurt about anything? You're autistic.
Lucas Hughes
Trademarks don't hold cross business. A band isn't going to be confused for a video game.
Owen Torres
Lars killed Metallica by being part of the band. He was always a screeching passive-aggressive whiny cunt balding manlet dicklet leprechaun and it honestly amazes me that no one has ever broken his skull in all those years, because that little cock sucking mosquito could make your blood boil just be opening his mouth.
Andrew Cruz
>boomer >beatles Is boomer this generation's thought-control?
Ayden Diaz
would it kill them to draw a few more frames of the weapon draw animation
Jace Williams
The Ion Autist draws near!
Christopher Hughes
this is already way more frames than in a classic game
Oliver Allen
To be honest I don't entirely blame them here. I mean every time I see Ion Maiden I keep reading it as Iron Maiden, although Iron Maiden didn't invent the term obviously so I don't know if they have any leg to stand on.
Bentley Cruz
>Pearl Jam The most popular rock radio station here plays nothing but fucking Pearl Jam. It's like the ultimate Dad band and I'm fucking sick of them.
Aiden Hill
Nobody is going to confuse a video game with a band so they really don't.
Lucas Ramirez
Well I did and that's the point. Again though the term already exists so it's a moot point anyway.