>been playing ffxiv for two days now
>no one has even talked to me yet
So much for MMOs being a good genre to make friends in.
Been playing ffxiv for two days now
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Nobody wants to talk to a low level faggot, you have to start the conversation. Dumb weeb.
>no one has even talked to me yet
you initiate, not them
this desu ne
I told you to play on my server.
that's a cute boy
I haven't started playing yet
I can't just talk to people out of the blue like that...
What's your server?
Why not? Just talk to people for God's sake, nobody knows who you are so you can't embarrass yourself. Jesus Christ, whats wrong with people nowadays.
>I can't just talk to people out of the blue like that...
the person who just arrived is the one who greet
that's basic etiquette
Behemoth.
I'm too shy for that.
I'm not NA user.
I'll play on your server
>want people to talk to you
>when you won't even bother to talk to them
Fuck off
I know, but I was telling you to anyway! Did you at least make sure to get the trial off of Steam like I said? The Steam version is way worse!
I would I if I could...
I got the starter version with a 1 month sub since I liked the game.
You need to talk first a lot of the time in mmos, user. You're EU right? Light or did you pick Chaos? Odin is a good server on light if you can speak english. Shiva for German. That said if you're too shy you need to work on it yourself. Also there was a xiv thread up already.
This guy seems weird and is reminding me of a /vg/ faggot and your "i'm too shy!" shtick does too.. that said I agree the steam version is shit.
Ah okay, I hope you have fun.
Sounds great! Have you played before?
Nope, I'm still deciding on what job to roll.
I ended up going on Odin yeah.
Lemme know what you end up playing! I have to warn you that the game is mostly a solo leveling experienced until endgame but if you'd like I can do dungeons with you. You unlock the first at 15 I believe.
I'm starting Odin in a few hours if you want someone to talk to. I can't promise anything else, I haven't played this game in 4-5 years
Well I'm completely new so that's not a problem
Then we'll probably meet sometime. I'm a rare talkative scandinavian so I stick out a bit, not going to say my name and so forth like a /vg/ fag though so if we meet we meet. For now, enjoy the ride. stop worrying and stop acting like a malecat that's "t-t-too shy uwu" just have fun. Odin is a good server and has been good for random talks in the past for me. the FCs are normalfag or shit though so I'll advice against a Yea Forums FC. Anyway I don't like posting if there's two threads up but I hope you get what I'm trying to say. Learn to relax, enjoy the ride. Don't stress the "making friends" bit. Either it happens naturally or you learn to reach out. Relying on others to contact you first will not lead to healthy friendships. a normalfag FC will be the best you'll get on Odin imo.
See you there I guess. I had to wait like 5 hours in char creation yesterday just to get on Odin. Don't worry too much about job since you can change job whenever you want starting from like level 10 onwards or so if memory serves me correct.
>go to any major city
>/shout "can i get a novice network invite"
>join novice network
>shitpost
My chat settings might be wrong but the only non-automated messages I've seen have been RMT advertising. Waiting 40+ minutes for dungeons is absolutely killing me though.
Yeah 10 or 15 depending on where you start, from what I can gather. Got any contact info?
That it does, correct. Welcome back to the game by-the-by.
I see plenty of shitposting and friends bantering in Limsa. and autistic bards. Anyway tanks or healers get faster queues. You get access to the adventurer squadron and palace of the dead later that help a ton as a dps for queues. Good luck and welcome to the game user, going to stop posting in this thread though. since I don't want two threads about the same game up at the same time only wowfags do that.
I'll just see you ingame or something. Not making the mistake of namedropping again, people here are mentally ill. What race did you end up making?
Thanks.
IGNs?
Are you on Primal? The last time I gave someone my name and resubbed to try to play with them, they never actually added me.
How does that work? I literally never see anyone talking in town. Are my chat settings messed up or something?
Everyone's shitposting in novice network. They'll see it.
Miqo'te.
This thread is fucking gay.
y-you damn fags playing together and shit
...i wish i could play with
I'll play with you user. What server are you on?
>be new
>learn about novice network
>have to be invited to join the chat
Oh okay
>be new
>want to be a tank
>everyone expects everyone to know everything about dungeons already
>tell group im doing dungeon for the first time
>"ugghhhh"
Oh okay then :(
well my character is on ada but unfortunately im not in a position to resub. stopped playing very shortly after sb came out (didnt even finish 4.0 msq) and while interest has returned with shadowniggers coming out soon i still dont think ill be able to get back into it for a little while
itd be cool to return to play with you and other anons though. i mostly played solo when i wasnt playing with my two irl friends(who also dont play anymore)
I jumped right to tanking with no issue.
Cute!
same
literally just say "hey guys first time doing this place so if some boss does some mechanic that isn't just avoid/step out of range of his attack please let me know thanks" and do a ready check before every boss fight and you'll be fine
also you're guaranteed at least two out of three commendations no matter what
But how come I never see anything in chat?
I told you not to play FFXIV or WoW dumb bitch
Don't insult my new friend or I'm gonna hit you
In novice network? Dead server. NN should always be active.
In shout? Nobody uses shout because they're all using free company, linkshell, or novice network. Screaming at the wind isn't how social interaction is done anymore, sadly.
I'm new to the game, around level 32 WHM. How far should I be in the game to play and hang out with Yea Forums friends?
>So much for MMOs being a good genre to make friends in
This isn't an issue if you're proactive about and initialize conversations yourself, but if you had that ability, then you wouldn't need to rely on MMOs to socialize, normally.
Could be quiet hours, that's usually the biggest reason. If he's playing EU for example it's extremely early atm and a holiday to boot.
server?
I have absolutely no idea what any of that is. Is there not a public chat or something?
primal on ultros, I've just been doing the free trial but i have a starter pack code when i'm done with it
>if you talk to someone in a thread you're friends
based retard
No there is no global chat.
Uuuugh fine. Give me your character name I'll invite you to the nn.
>haven't played since heavensward
>want to get back in for shadowbringers
>need to pay $40 for stormblood
>need to pay $40 for shadowbringers
>need to pay a monthly subscription fee
I know this is standard for MMOs but god damn, this shit is bananas
I'm just kidding user, calm down
Evelyn Zephyr, female cat.
buy ShB and get SB for free when it launches.
Well that's kind of weird.
>making "friends" with strangers you'll never meet
for fucks sake
why are you up so early grandpa?
You're not showing up on player search. Which must mean you're not through the tutorial yet. You aren't even in the game until you finish the first few quests.
Ultros is the Yea Forums (and resetera) server. NA server though so stinky for us on EU:
I thought Balmung was the Yea Forums server. Or is that /vg/?
>I'm too shy for that.
Well then be doomed to be forever friendless in MMO's.
I'm pretty sure I'm not on lodestone unless I get out of the free trial
>another "shy" faggot complaining about his shyness along with posting an animu reaction image
Why do so many of you follow this exact formula? I really wish you would fuck off.
No i mean you're not showing up on the in game player search. If you're still in the tutorial, that's why you aren't seeing anyone. The main cities are FULL of people, all the time. Limsa is incredibly busy right now, in fact.
make some actual meaningful relationships, it'll make your life less pathetic
Go back to bed pops.
FFXIV is not a particularly social mmo, you fucked up
Visited them a month ago for a whole week and got drunk together, we've been friends since modern warfare 2, seethe more incel
>meaningful relationships
such as?
Wait you're not even logged in are you? I can't do shit if you're not logged in. Lodestone isn't actually used for anything by anyone except scrapers and bots.
Oh sorry about that. I understand. if you want, try again now. I should appear
Alright don't you dare tell people I'm posting here again.
sure thing lol
ok. just to confirm you did get that invite right? free trials have a lot of restrictions that I don't know about.
that's what you get for being eu user, just make an NA alt and live it up
yep, i'm in. Thanks!
But I don't want to play in high ping...
You can't into timezones or something? NA is equally dead during the dead hours of the morning. Even balmung slows down a bit during 7am or so
Currently playing on Siva and considering a realm transfer. Where are you guys, I want to play with you. Sprout or not, I dont care.
nah its fine
XIV is designed for autistic retards like you
No one talks, it's almost pathetically hilarious how the game includes a tutorial on how to use the chat function in case you didn't know it existed
I'm on Odin. From what I hear it's one of the most popular servers.
Balmung NA, Odin EU
Odin it is then. Do you guys have a linkshell or FC or is everybody just meeting up randomly?
There is a /vg/ guild but there's a lot of people that aren't even in it. Highest concentration of anons in EU nonetheless.
Uh I just started so I don't know what either of those are.
Nice, on Sihva we just had a linkshell. We did stuff together but most people were veterans already so there was no newbies to help which I enjoy.
it's standard for MMOs from big developers because they know they can get away with it, not to mention they still have the audacity to sell cash shop shit.
Most MMOs don't make you pay this much, even f2p p2w shit is cheaper than these games.
A Linkshell is like a chat group or Discord ingame. A FC is a Free Company which equals a guild.
Oh I see, thanks. I'm brand new so I'm not in any of those.
Should be a lot of newbies on Odin atm, seen a lot of posts about people starting there past few days
If you are willing, tell me your name so I can add you.
Is it hard to make a character on Gilgamesh?
Character name, right? If so pastebin.com
Also keep in mind I'm brand new and only level 21.
I'd like to see a breakdown of how much Square makes from subscriptions and expansion sales compared to how much they actually spend on development and server costs. The profits must be fucking incredible compared to their single player games.
when i played the game a year ago a couple people came up to me to have a conversation becausr i was a newfag. was kind of fun.
It's cool, I am just looking for sth to do while waiting for the new content.
Not him but i'm on Primal, user
Alright, shoot me a friend req if you want.
It's even cheaper when the new content is shit, doesn't take long to finish and the formula is generally just the same thing over and over every time. The MMO genre is at an all time low considering the biggest ones are now trash.
No bully please no one added me anyway
I probably will when I log in later!
Nice, will do.
>someone emote spams me
>i emote spam back
>we walk away and never talk to each other again or even add each other
>this happens every time
Does anyone on primal wanna be my friend?
Alright, cool. Do I gotta be online for people to be able to add me?
come to jenova and become my friend now!
There was 2 primal anons in the thread
What are your names? I may resub to play with you.
Avoid this person!
Why?
Unpure intentions and he might be Me*wie
>keep rewatching the job actions trailer just to listen to the music
am i retarded? is there somewhere i can listen to the tracks in the vid
>try act cheerful in dungeons
>encourage people if they mess up
>crack some jokes and use emotes to keep spirits up
>push people to improve
>throw myself into action and perform as well as possible
>clear things smoothly
>everybody leaves
>no friend requests
>no fc invites
>maybe a commendation or two
What am I trying to achieve, anyway?
Yumi Rose on Lamia
server?
>been playing Tree of Savior
>find a random person at some bee farm fighting off lotsa bees
>"yo, wanna party up?"
>"sure"
>grind bees for a while, a portal for increasingly hard mode opens
>"wanna try it?"
>"yeah, go go"
>after some hard fights decide to bail out of the mode before we bite more than we can chew
>"that was fun"
>"yeah, how long have you been playing?"
>end up talking about mechanics and stuff in the game adding each other to friend list
Grindy MMOs are best MMOs for social stuff because the everyday grind is just a substrate for all the social stuff to flourish. When devs engineer and tailor every single thing in the game there is nothing to form a bond around.
You probably come off as super fake. Stop trying so hard. People hate people like that. They either see through your shit, or feel intimidated by how much you're giving off and don't feel like getting wrapped up in that shit.
cock craving sluts
have you done eureka? it was like this when the zones were new
I bet you’re the type of nig who uses exclamation points when you type a complement faggot
that's /vg/. Ultros is the Yea Forums server.
My intentions are not impure.
Ah, we're already friends! I'm just not subbed right now, sorry.
People talk in Eureka. Discord shit killed all communications.
what the actual fuck is this moogle event
balmung is /vg/. avoid all of crystal desu unless you're a tranny, erper or obnoxiously gay.
N-no we're not!
Zodiark.
I don't pull any weird role or say anything I don't feel is genuine. And I don't spam the party chat all the time either, just when it seems fitting. Oh well, I wouldn't want friend requests from people who are easily put off, anyway.
Dont think so
there's 2 good servers on crystal, but the other shit servers drag it down too much.
I'm so fucking glad none of you fuckers are on my data centre.
lewd miqote
Can I fish in FFXIV? I played WoW when urged to by friends, but I spent a lot of time fishing rather than doing endgame content.
I made a surprising amount of friends just sitting around and fishing with the various little gadgets and toys set up for random passerbys to enjoy.
>drop ps3 and 32bit support
>game still looks like absolute trash
bros why
This Whenever people try to rollplay as a genki moeblob it makes them uncomfortable because it’s so disingenuous. Just act like a normal decent human being instead of some boxhuggy faggot
This guy is a good example of genuine friendliness
Yea Forums is ultros /vg/ is balmung Odin is EU 4channers, scandinavians and autists (no real FC though, be warned. Normalfag FC is the best you'll get.)
avoid the Yea Forums FCs. dead discord wankery.
You can fish but it won't be the same as in WoW.
yes there is an entire fisher job
Fishing is one of the three gathering jobs, you can level it up just like all the combat and crafting jobs. I've never done it so I dunno if it's what you're looking for.
Wait for classic. It'll be like the old days with an actual community.
Can someone help me choose between Gilgamesh, Balmung, and Leviathan?
I like raiding, but I also like seeing people roleplay everywhere.
I've played FF14 up to 20ieth or so level before dropping it. The gear "upgrades" are just flat +1 to your stats compared to stuff you got from previous zone. No character customization and building nothing special to look forward to. The questing is dull as fuck and is just a prolonged tutorial for retards. I thought that the first instanced dungeon I'll get to explore will be somewhat interesting but nope, it's basic as fuck without any gimmicks or tactics. The game is very pretty so I'll give it that.
All in all I found FF14 an extremely watered down "by the book" theme park "MMO" experience without any special features or player freedom.
Me? Lewd? You have the wrong person
You have to put the secret password in your search info:
WU/T (E)RP
Where my Cactuar bros at
aren't those all on primal? Just avoid balmung and you'll be fine. Come to Ultros and I'll take good care of you.
>I can't just talk to people out of the blue like that...
>I'm too shy for that.
Fucking this. I've played 2000h of WoW and 700h of FFXIV and I've made 0 friends.
>tfw on Balmung
>cities are full of people
>never see any tranny shit
>occasionally stumble across roleplay groups in the middle of nowhere like that one weekend tournament in Thanalan
>haven't even got miner to cap yet and already making money because there are a shitload of people at the MB
>every day I see people talking in /say chat or doing quests out in the world while working on my MSQ
I'm so glad I didn't get memed out of transferring here when it opened up. This is paradise.
bunnies are ugly as fuck why do all the faces have nigger lips
> Don't want people who are easily put off anyway
Then what's the issue? If you're actually genuine and not just following some robotic-ass "How to Make Friends" wiki-how, then the people who enjoy your personality will gravitate towards you. If no one is gravitating, then you're clearly not genuine.
Alright. Invites appear in the friends list right? The UI in general is kind of mess.
I'm now interested in becoming a fisherman in XIV.
>genki moeblob
>some boxhuggy faggot
You sure jumped into conclusions there. I don't like that kind of shit either.
>It'll be like the old days with an actual community.
You are sorely mistaken.
either gilga or levi do not go to balmung if u want to raid, but come to adamantoise instead
Don't listen to anyone that obsesses over trannies being around every corner in XIV. They literally barely exist.
rp is sort of on its own little datacenter, which would be balmung or anything on crystal
it's an either/or thing tho since crystal isn't really a raiding dc, both of the other ones are fine for it no matter how much shitposting you hear about which one is better
gilgamesh isn't even the best server on aether
leviathan is alright
balmung is great but congested so you're better off rolling on Goblin or Malboro (both good servers) and visiting to Balmung whenever an RP mood strikes you
the tradeoff is that it's impossible to clear any content in a reasonable amount of time though
Wanna try being friends?
It's legit comfy but I've never done fishing in WOW so I can't really compare.
You can try the free trial, after you reached level 10 on combat class you can take on new classes. Fisher is one of them.
I hate this thread. too many /vg/ types here and the newguy op is a uwu i'm shy miqo'te. What is the solution to such disorders? Beatings.
It's a proper mmo so it amplifies the further you get. if you want a shallow game where you don't progress WoW has that. Questing is bloated with shitty fetching sidequests early on though I'll give you that.
Hello.
MMO = subgenre
Here
>game is full of anime girl avatar fags that ERP as catgirls
this game's community is shit
They should, but to be honest, I am trying to it together myself. Havent. Played for a time and need to reirganize.
Well excuse me for not being a social butterfly.
they removed about 80% of those unsavory types to their own datacenter
Sounds good to me to be honest.
>I've played FF14 up to 20ieth or so level before dropping it.
So 2 hours? What a surprise they didn't give you endgame gear yet
>haven't even got miner to cap yet and already making money because there are a shitload of people at the MB
I had an alt there myself. You don't make money on balmung unless it's endgame relevant/new stuff at the start of new content. Lies only take you so far.
Enjoy, buddy. Fishing has some invested autists so you should be able to make FSH friends.
Fishing in XIV is unironically the hardest content in the game. Once you get high level you can start hunting Big Fish that are basically just for the ego boost of catching them and some sick titles, and the shit required to actually catch some of them is insane.
How do datacenters work? I know NA has three, so do people from a datacenter see each other a lot?
More on the subject of B4 costing no mana. The actual B4 tooltip lists its MP cost at 800. That being said, there is footage of BLM casting B4 at 0mp right after B3. So basically the tooltip and the demo build don't agree with each other. My guess is that the tooltip is wrong and will be updated somewhen before release.
See this at 1:43 using B4 at 0MP
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Can it be lala time now?
gotta love purple
take me back to HW bros
Alright, gimme a you when you send it if the thread's still up by then.
turn on the role play tag and everyone will talk to you
It costs mana when you're in UI1.
uwu *nuzzles against you*
Umbral Ice 3 zeros out the MP cost of Ice aspected spells.
One of those tooltips was just taken while Umbral was up.
funny thing is, the only people that have made "advances" on me are Male characters.
There's still a lot of fucking annoying slut characters that dress in bikinis or overly skimpy gear
Doesn't that button turn you gay?
That was 3-4 years ago. I'm just saying that I found FF14's mechanics too bland for my taste by the 20ieth level. Where in other games I'm already scratching my forehead weighing down where to put a skill point or deiciding which piece of gear I want to use according to my build and playstyle FF14 had nothing of that. I don't want only "endgame" to be engaging. Why does the "earlygame" even exist if it brings nothing interesting to the table? I'm not gonna be playing a dull game of pretedermined path to guaranteed levelcap where I get to play "for real".
Because nobody wants to ERP with people who play male characters, since most of them are self-inserting normalfags with shit taste and terrible at RP, male characters in this game are extremely thirsty. The exception of course being gay dudes
anything out of japan can turn you gay. but either way, if you want people to talk to you that's how you do it
Sent ;)
You're probably gay if you're playing this game regardless.
Not him but you're straight wrong. Even before reaching cap it's super easy to make money as a Gatherer. Alumen, Gold Ore, shard seeds, Granite, Cobalt Ore, and Marble all sell fairly well still. Typically anything that sees heavy use in housing is a reliable seller here. Also Fleece is fantastic money.
I've got all my crafters 70 too and selling endgame stuff is actually the hardest. I've had Rakshasa weapons sit up there for two weeks.
shadowbringers music so far has been pretty shit bros..what is soken doing
I can't believw DRG is fucking dead.
Just put up something in your player description like "No 18+, Clean RP only" or something like that. Tons of people will read it and while you'll still get those degenerates that say "let me change your mind", you'll at least filter the other 93%
But both my characters are females, a cot and a lalafell
I miss that comfy quest completed tone.
i cant believe sch is in the shed bros
>Umbral Ice 3 zeros out the MP cost of Ice aspected spells.
I believe you, but where does it say that?
That's what I'm saying, people who actually play male characters in this game are extremely thirsty, so you'll get a lot of them hitting on you all the time
Everyone must play the same
EVERYONE MUST PLAY THE SAME
NO ONE MUST FEEL INADEQUATE
HEALERS DO NOT NEED TO DPS AND SHOULD NOT BE EXPECTED TO
DPS CAN HEAL NOW
TANKS CAN DO FULL DPS ROTATIONS WITH NO DOWNSIDES NOW HAHA
SKILL? NO EVERYONE PLAY SAME, YOUR SKILL ENDS WHERE FEELINGS BEGIN
>tfw autistically grinded the first few weeks of 3.05 when the tacklekeeps rod was available to be among the first to get it
i couldnt continue much after that. i wonder if it ever got better or worse.
stop
Yes but I'm too afraid
seething schfag
based truthposter
>friend bought a boost for AST a while ago
>mfw he finally read the upcoming changes
stop being shy you little bitches party up and go kill some monsters and collect tomestones together
>MY CPM
stay mad SCHfag
I don't bite user. What server are you on?
That's pathetic, the community in this game is beyond salvageable.
>Why does the "earlygame" even exist if it brings nothing interesting to the table?
Well, levels 1-50 in XIV are basically just a tutorial, and make up barely 20% of the game. It gets more engaging around level 30 when you've built up your base skill arsenal, but levels 20 and below are fucking nothing and show you nothing at all.
>Here's your level 72 skill for the expansion
Th-thanks yoshida...
>I don't pull any weird role or say anything I don't feel is genuine.
The way to get over this is to stop worrying about it
Overthinking your words is not how casual conversation goes, just say something and move on.
yeah, misunderstood what your first post meant. You're correct, I have a good friend that has the same thing happen, always weird male cats hitting on people
100% sure they won't let it go through like that, no way people are going to tolerate just an MP reduction
hard working devs btw
It's basically the opposite here on primal.
My housing items take forever to sell but if I put up 380 gear it sells very quickly.
Sounds like crystal is shitter country that only cares about rp.
this thread as gay as its kinda been has reignited me wanting to play if only to play with other anons(been gone awhile, only recently read about the data center visitation/partying stuff, glad they finally got that shit in) but unfortunately i cant afford the sub atm
AST did have mp problems during SB
>100 mp less
pray i do not change your skill further
>Sounds like crystal is shitter country that only cares about rp.
uh, thats literally what it is m8
Bet you didn't see that coming.
That's what I meant? Maybe you would stand think about what you say a little more.
Well, I already got bored of the game while going through that "tutorial". Even if what was in store further in is absolute godly and captivating - tough chance. The game failed to capture me at the time when my attention to new and interesting things in it is at its peak which is the very beginning.
heres your trait bro
Goblin players are so fucking bad, send help
>tfw trapped on crystal cause I wanted that doubleEXP and thought I could use the free transfer out
At least I'm only stuck for another month
>90s MMOs
>Everything kicked your ass
>Solo grind could take YEARS
>Everything was in the world, not an instance
>Partying up and fighting alongside friends & strangers was necessary to both speed up the leveling experience and even tackle the majority of dungeons and open areas in the world, people bumping into one another in a dungeon would just stick together and have each other's backs
>Had to figure out most shit yourself or with direct communication with the community - knowledge databases were limited, people sharing info and chatting in-game or on forums was how it was done
>An actual world
>Modern MMO
>Can solo the entire game
>Level 1 to Level 100 in a day
>Everything is instanced with raids and mini-raids and shit; the open world is actually pretty pointless and empty
>Only need to party up with strangers through automated who are locked into a system-mandated set of ROLES during some linear instance, nobody has to say a word to one another
>Everything new is instantly uploaded on to a Wikia page the hour after a patch
>Literally reduced to a job simulator of watching progress bars tick up, teleporting somewhere else and watching bars go up there
I wish Asheron's Call wasn't dead.
Oh. Why would anyone go there?
Yea Forums once again proving FF14 is for ultra faggots while WoW is for the chads
I remember someone shopped Dragoon's 70 trait on "READ NIGGA, READ" back in SB1.
Hope someone does the same with this.
How does it feel losing Foes Requiem?
>tfw no twitch streamers to give money in-game too for a shoutout and few Pogs in chat
IT'S NOT FAIR BROS
feels great, at least they buffed battle voice
Make your own MMO for a niche handful of players. I know you know how to do it.
Yeah, Crystal is nice because it's full of glamour weebs and housing spergs and people who do just about anything. I've been doing quick ventures, Eureka, and Zodiac/Anima fuckery just to kill time until ShB and I'm basically making money just by existing, it's nice. Wish I could hop into one of the RP events but I'm too much of an autist to really participate much.
True, instead you can check out your local tranny clique in Gridania
Ye, it does appear in FL, in orange.
played both, plenty of faggots in both. like yourself
>battered housewife paypigs that are STILL giving blizzard their money
>chads
What's the point of money if you can't spend it on anything?
>never play mmos
>try it out last summer
>make a potato and just kinda keep to myself since I'm an mmo newbie retard
>dozen or so hours in accosted by large swarm of potatoes
>roll with them and make shitty potato jokes all day
I stopped playing after a few months though. I think about going back sometimes. It was fun to toss a podcast or audio book on and log on. Other potato characters could be weird but I was surprised at the social aspect of it all.
>Feels great losing the best animation in your skillset
??????????
>walk up to someone playing a song in Limsa
>tell them to get a real job and run off
A desire to do that again almost makes me want to resub.
sarcasm buddy
What do you mean? I'm saving it for Shadowbringers so I can smooth out getting my crafters done from 71-80, and whatever's left over is going towards my house and helping out my FCmates.
Would probably help if I read a little closer and my brain didn't fill in the gaps
Hard to tell when you have people actually being happy that healers are being homogenized.
FFXIV is as far from an MMO as possible while still technically being an MMO.
>social features are missing or all over the place
>no text bubbles to give people situational awareness of their fellows
>maps are just monster hallways, world is built like levels from a bad videogame to ensure no immersion
>level sync system makes sure once you get to a certain point there's no incentive to go back
>almost all content happens exclusively through a stage select/dungeon finder window
>bad servers, base game server refresh is twice that of what would be considered too high in basically any game since 2006
Junior game devs, this is how to NOT make an MMORPG
So you're making money so you can spend it on crafting to make more money for what? You can't run content on Crystal
greetings fellow potato
>user in real life doesn't talk to anyone
>has no friends in real life
>they play ffxiv
>does the same thing, doesn't talk, doesn't initiate contact
>WAHH WHY IS THE GAME NOT SOCIAL TO ME?
unironically made a good suggestion, just follow 's advice, block ERP faggots that even consider talking to you
It's basically a luxury for when you don't want to deal with bullshit. For example, Heaven on High farming for Dodo horn farming was miserable since pugs were absolute shit so spending 15 mil on the horn was a preferable alternative, especially since I made that money back in a single day.
truly though im not upset about bard changes, sucks to lose foes but other than that seems like a upgrade compared to SB bard. apex arrow is pretty disappointing if they dont balance it better
Doesn't matter when you can literally ride FF's coattails and have nostalgia be your cash cow. It boggles the mind, but that's the power of nostalgia and first mover advantage.
Now imagine what a Nintendo MMO could pull for shit.
Yeah okay but you wouldn't have to deal with said bullshit if you were on a real datacenter.
I've been on Yea Forums for more than a decade now and I've never tried playing with people here before. Intentionally, of course. I've had instances where people just call me out for some reason.
>>social features are missing or all over the place
like what?
>>level sync system makes sure once you get to a certain point there's no incentive to go back
people run old content all the time unsynced though
>a Nintendo MMO
Could you imagine the state of this board if that ever happened....
I was and still am on Primal. Unless you're suggesting I go to aether in which case funny joke!
My bad, thought you were on crystal
I can imagine people trying to defend phone only voice chat in an MMO somehow
-We are looking for janitors-
>people add me after exchanging few sentences
>one week later I meet them in Limsa/other hubs and completely forget who they were so I just /greet and roll with it
feels bad, idk if it's normal or if my memory is so awful I need to start taking notes on every person I add
In my experience Yea Forums and /vg/ is full of mentally ill people, mostly trannies and gay furfags
Just play and find a good nigga to be friends with naturally
>Play with friend on ps4
>His fucking ishitwhatevers doesn't work with it so have to use skype on my phone to talk
I already know the pain user
I think I might know who you're talking about, give me the quick rundown on him.
I don't get what you mean. There's no shortage of parties for Omega and Ultimates now (though there are at 4 AM) so I don't see why there will be in ShB. I don't care for raiding myself so I doubt I'll fuck with em much, but even if I did why would that be any sort of money sink? It's not like repairs are expensive.
He is sissygay. Hope I helped
That's it? He seemed pretty normal to me so far.
If he's the person I'm talking about, he is definitely not normal. Normal people don't have their pornhub links filtered on Yea Forums due to insane gay spam.
these threads died fast
ff14moomoo.com
prepare your autism a month in advance!
theres 4 fucking xiv threads on v right now go to the one with alphinau on it
And trannies are now over the moon happy because Yoshi said he supports trans rights and will remove gender restrictions on glam and the ceremony of eternal bonding.
At least you're civil about it. I respect that.
Just how? people literally talk all the time in this game, specially in dungeons n trials.
I think he meant the glam for the Ceremony of Eternal Bonding. There have never been gender restrictions on it but the outfit you get is dependent on your gender which sucks because the male tux is pretty nice and the wedding dress is kickass.
>wedding dress is kickass.
That's the exact opposite of what I meant to say but it's nearly 6 AM, please forgive me, the wedding dress is shit.
New player woes and not spending a lot of time in dungeons / cities I imagine. Weird playing hours can cause this too, I used to play another MMO at like 3am server time and it was pretty quiet.
It's just petty pandering from Yoshi, it's a logical consequence of him openly saying that role players are now more important than combat. The game is going to shit real fast.
Five (6) FFXIV threads up.
Roleplayers have always been more important than combat financially speaking, this game unironically has a bigger RP playerbase than a raid one even if you exclude the ERPers.
Just say in shout chat in limsa "are there any free companies I can join?" and you'll have 5 tells immediately.
we're going home bros
So about the same number as Classic wow threads except those will last for about 60-90 days longer?
that's wow classic homespam tier bad. what are people even doing? People have been able to stick to one thread until today.
Uncomfortable coincidence and I think the OP of this one didn't actually intend on making a thread specifically about XIV.
We run dis board now wowboy.
tfw started HW a few hours ago, I'm already loving it.
Yeah I know. But Yoshi never publicly said that rpers are the focus group and he's at least tried to keep pve players happy. Now, I feel like this game is not for me anymore.
There's "only" 4 threads up, but one was just started because some retard didn't search for existing threads before, this thread is more of a MMO friend thread rather than XIV in specific. So in reality there's only 2 threads, which sorta sucks but what can you do? Smash had like 20-30 nonstop at one point, we aren't at that level yet.
And how many Death Stranding threads?
>inb4 "but it just had a major announcement"
So did XIV.
The game is going the way of guildwars 2. Trying to push pvp onto people to become the next esport and ruining pve content for it.
XIV's PvP is incredibly low budget and the only shit you get from it is cosmetic still. Don't be a retard.
What Yoshi said is that they don't design the game exclusively around hardcore raiders because the majority of the playerbase doesn't care about hardcore raiding and you've got people invested into so many more things, like roleplay, fishing, housing, GS, story, crafting, and so on.
He's got a point, really. If this game did the Everquest thing and started pressing all the content and effort into Savage raids it'd kill it. Their current approach is working considering the game's been on a pattern of steady growth for years now and the playerbase is only getting livelier. I'm inclined to agree with him, considering I've dumped a fuckload on this game in sub money and don't care about raiding at all and neither do the majority of my friends who play.
>Dumbing down the game is the right thing
>Literally making the levelling experience WORSE is a good thing
Seems more like actual suicide and the downfall of ffxiv is coming.
He didn't even mention savage raiding, he used the word 'combat'. The game was never savage raiding oriented, there's only 4 freaking fights. My main problem is that at least before they tried to make classes more complex to play and keep you engaged, now combat is pretty much shit.
And it's not like Yoshi discovered a secret to mmos, FF14 just provides people with pretty clothes and cute mounts and house decorations. It's an online Sims game. And it's fine, it's just that I no longer feel any excitement doing pve content, time to move on.
>dev says they're putting more effort into the content most of the playerbase actually cares about instead of into the irrelevant Simon Says shit
>expansion hype at an all-time high
>almost all servers alive even in the midst of the longest content drought of the patch cycle, fucking Cactuar of all things is congested
>hurr game ded
whatever you say m8
When such MMOs are only going to attract a niche, I'd rather make it a solo-coop RPG where said "niche" is actually a massive potential playerbase.
The classic community-driven MMOs were not actually superseded by these super streamined antisocial modern MMOs, but instead transformed into games like Minecraft of all things.
The always online MMO platform became irrelevant a decade ago. It is more tenable to make a game that can be played locally, with an economy that a solo player can establish among NPCs, or a server of people can establish together and make flourish. The hostile world they find themselves in becoming one they make into their cozy home over time.
Hilariously, almost none of the Minecraft-likes have capitalized on making their games more than just another blocky tree-punching game with survival mechanics and random empty landmass generators. They could be making actual worlds and start players off as adventurers with a bunch of established landmarks set apart by random terrain. Some of the most popular mods for such minecraft-likes are just that, turning them into more fully fledged coop RPGs.
>people literally talk all the time in this game, specially in dungeons n trials
>hello
>o/
>gg
>ty
>Devs making the game based on new player feedback instead of listening to people who actually played their game and enjoyed it since the start
IT ALL COMES TUMBLING DOWN, TUMBLING DOWN, TUMBLING DOWNNNN
That's the opposite of what they're doing, they're specifically ignoring the player feedback because all the XIV discussion forums are filled with raiders bitching and crying about literally everything.
Who mentioned feedback? The ones giving all the """feedback""" are the assmad raiders and Reddit autists who cry about there being no content when all they do is raidlog once a week. Yoshi said they're developing based on what the people who play the game actually do, not what the ecelebs like Happy say they do.
>all the XIV discussion forums are filled with raiders bitching and crying about literally everything
That is completely incorrect. Remember the Viera butthurt? People are still not over it. The fucking Male Viera support thread has 550 fucking pages.
And by far the most outrage is raised by those kind of people. Raiders are a small fraction of the playerbase, they are barely even heard.
Dunno what forums you're reading, but that's literally wrong. The official forums is filled with the lowest of low duty finder trash.
>The official forums is filled with the lowest of low duty finder trash.
better than Yea Forums
You realise that the extreme and savage versions of fights are the original versions fights and they dumb it down to make it easier for the normal version right?
Man don't even bother, you're talking to people who play the game to take selfies in Limsa and rp in their homes. Who the fuck even cares. Yoshi said they're the focus group, accept that or leave the game.
this, ultimate was developed in 2.0 and all the extreme and story trials are just downgraded versions of it
I picked Mateus cause I wanted a server with lots of strange people on it so things seem more lively, did I make a mistake?
no because you can still world visit to balmung, mateus is the balmung waiting room
Balmung was the server for that, but I guess it's the 2nd best option so not really.
How do you even start a conversation when there is literally no need for any content up until maybe savage raids to say a single word to anybody? It wasn't like that in classic wow, so I remember your average dungeon was always full of talking all the time, but here everyone is completely silent except for the occasional macroed autospeech.
It's better that they're silent in this game because you can't even talk to them because they're all whiny bitchy snowflakes who get offended by everything. So good riddance.
This game is so fucking trash
>Casualized as much as possible
>Cross server dungeon finder with level scaling
>All the job skills are homogenized crap
>Mechanics largely consist of not standing in red circles
>Your class identity is nothing because the dungeons levelling up are so easy
>Forced to do like a million story quests in a fucking MMO
>Levelling up is so easy that crafting is meaningless until endgame because you replace your gear every two levels anyways
>Solo only classes because the devs are fucking losers
where my tonberry bros at
are you talking about WoW?
FFXIV is literally a shameless WoW clone so it's natrual that you'd be confused.
You do realize that this new skill charges mechanic was copy pasted from Wow?
>Hurr his other game is shit too!
Yes. Wow has the exact same issues other than MSQ and solo only jobs
shouldnt you three be in here whatre you doing in here
what skill charges mechanic?
>Cross server dungeon finder with level scaling
And the far superior way should be...?
I've barely played Wow, I have like 20 hours of game time in that game and I have 2 years in ff14. Wow has had skill charges for like 10 years.
Ogcds having up to 3 charges in SHB. In Wow I know that Warrior and Monk have had those charges since forever, probably other classes have those too.
So you're not going to refute that your game is shit?
no, but i enjoy it so that's ok with me
No cross server dungeon finder and no level scaling. Level sync a la ff11 was good
If you are going to add level scaling in the game, why even bother having a level up system in the first place.
>No cross server dungeon finder
Enjoy your 3-hour dps queues
That's funny. My interaction with a random passerby when asking for directions to the nearest town started with him telling me "kys".
Didn't know what it meant at the time and so I asked what it was and he said I should hang myself and logged out.
Got to level 100 or so before quitting due to the performance issues. Have they patched the game to run any better? I likes how Ys-like (the action games anyway) the combat was.
But the dungeons are level-synced, not scaled? Or what do you mean?
Level scaling is there just so the old dungeons can be reused as 'content' for 100 years.
You realize back before dungeon finders existed it wasn't hard to find groups right?
Because the games actually bothered making challenging world content, you would make friends levelling up and then just naturally make groups out if your levelling parties for dungeons.
In ff11 you could level sync to your party members if they were within a certain number of levels to you. I think it was 10 levels but it's been over a decade so I don't know the exact number.
>WoW invented charges
Fuck off retard
This is how I've felt through it for the most part as well.
It feels like especially in XIV people don't talk to strangers anymore and only circlejerk in their guild chats or respective discord channels.
Maybe this is an issue in all modern MMOs, but the fact that there is no proper global server-wide chat in XIV probably enhances this.
dont worry fellow monkbro, i noticed your post
Nah, it sometimes took hours to put together a party.
The point is, ff14 certainly didn't you mongoloid. I'm sure SE first heard of the charge mechanic from fucking Runescape or some other 1990s mmo. They copied it from Wow.
or
and this may sound crazy
you can just solo dungeons and other content that require multiple players with....
AI BOTS
>You realize back before dungeon finders existed it wasn't hard to find groups right?
Well, it'd be impossible today. And going for that kind of game design would expect a full overhaul of the combat system in XIV, because it's so fucking monotonous as-is, if progress took any more effort than it does, people would drop the game like a rock.
Bullshit. You either didn't play back then or sucked at social networking
I literally always had 10+ friends on wanting to run shit.
Global chat in ff14 is full of people calling other people cute and other useless fucking shit. There's nothing to talk about anyway, the world outside of cities is dead, you don't need cooperation to do anything. And again, I'm actually happy most ff14 players keep their mouth shut because they're usually terrible.
Who gives a fuck you dumb cunt sperg? Aetherflow was already a mechanic that gave charges to sch and smn so your argument is fucked from the get go retard.
>playing an MMO singleplayer
Story quests in that game already feel like singleplayer. No point in having a subscription if all the content can be cleared solo.
Uhhh
I've tried making friends in XIV though, like going to the /vg/ free company and shit or talking to some strangers from time to time.
It always feels disconnected and like I'm a lone wolf running around empty plains, alone.
I wouldn't mind people calling me cute tbqh at least there's some social interaction in this lonely mmo.
Guess I should just join NN.
a smash thread died for this and thats a good thing
Post char and I'll call you cute all day if I like it.
>mechanic that gave charges to sch and smn
kys you dumb motherfucker, aetherflow is not a charge system, it's a resource to be spent
This is a crown example of how fucking mindnumbingly retarded people who play this game are.
Just look into pantheon rise of the fallen and wait for that
>Guess I should just join NN.
lol my dude, just lol
NN is the closest I found to having a global chat and social interaction in this game.
I legit considered completing the mentor requirements just so that I could join NN at will without being a returner.
Based
Morningthaw here...
shut the fuck up boomer
based and redpilled.
Actually, I think there's no range limitations, at least not anymore.
I kinda wish it were possible to manually sync down to any level yourself, in case you want to do old content at relative levels again for shits and grins, but I don't think that's possible yet.
>playing my male higlander main
>no friends, fc doesn't really talk to me
>log on sprout hellsguard futa
>make tons of friends, even chatting outside of scenes.
>don't wanna level again
Why it gotta be this way Yea Forumsros?
You play on fucking balmung or something, that's why.
Somehow I've gotten to the point where I habitually open up threads for this game and read about it and follow the news and updates despite not even playing it. I tried it 3 years ago and somewhat enjoyed it but never got past level 30 on multiple characters, and everything just felt like a waste of time. I think I must want to play it or I wouldn't follow it so closely, but the monthly sub model scares me and makes me not have much fun. The whole situation makes me feel silly and dumb.
The sub is not a lot of money, and you shouldn't worry about the sub timer as a result. I last played 4-5 years ago and I'm returning now, maybe give it another try?
I'm sure there aren't limitations anymore. They added trusts and shit too because the game is so dead. But back in the day you couldn't do that.
>Xiv
>Not the most antisocial mmo out there
Even wow at some level will force you to get friends (said level is m+18 but hey).
FFXIV apparently always has major announcements.
Yeah it's unfortunate but the only things you can't really faceroll w/ trusts now is stuff like omen, VD ambu, einharjar(cuz you can't use em) etc.
At least anyone that has a weird urge to try ffxi can easily experience the full story on their own, they won't experience the struggle unfortunately.
They didn't make quests appear on the map tho did they? What a stupid "mechanic"
Not that I'm aware of. There's always been the NPCs in towns that can direct you to another NPC with a quest via map markers but that's pretty much it I think. The Records of Eminence stuff can also directly point out where to go for more important quests such as job unlocks and whatnot via position(so really just giving you a vague idea of where the npc is, you still need to seek them out), but I honestly can't even recall when RoE was implemented anymore.
Start raiding and join a static. You'll be forced to be in close proximity with 7 other people who probably have their own friend group.
There's the chance it'll be an awful social experience and you'll never get in their good graces, but if you keep trying you'll find a group for you; I believe in you, user!
>unsynced
You call that running content?
yeah we've been in expansion buildup mode for six months or more
Sorry user but I can't do it. An awful interaction is enough to make me not want to do anything for a month.
Why is steam bad?
tfw no videogame anime slut gf
If you mean for XIV, it's because it locks you to buying all further game content on Steam, where the game rarely goes on sale and is severely bugged with the Verify feature. Mostly just inconvenient.
hi
What do you bring to the table as an anime slut?
I think certain public chats are restricted if you are in free trial.
Lots and lots of video games
Are you good at any of them? What games?
WoW and FFXIV playerbase are introverts, same with GW2
Final Fantasy XIV and yes.
You promised games, plural. Wtf I have been catfished.
Final Fantasy XIV has several games within it.
You are building our relationship on a foundation of lies. Not ok.
I guarantee you're the same pathetic faggot who has been making these threads for the past few days. Fucking cease already
I just walked into an FC's housing that was open, had a look around, chatted with the FC members and joined right there on the spot. It's not hard.
You can't even guarantee what you'll be having for lunch.
i'm making buffalo wings for lunch
Not him but I've been wondering this all my life.
What is a buffalo wing exactly?
I only made this one.
The fuck are you doing here? Go make friends in XIV.
it's a chicken wing/leg/boneless white meat tossed in buffalo sauce. It's called buffalo sauce because the dish originated in Buffalo, NY
Ah, so it's a simple chicken dish defined by a signature sauce. I'll have to try it sometime. Thanks for explaining, user.
No prob, and if you like garlic, vinegar, and a little bit of heat then you'll like the sauce. Where are you from that you've never tried it
How can you guys even play this game? It just puts me to sleep. The GCD is way too long.
I mean besides the ERP, of course. It's a super pretty game, but I just can't get past how slow and out-of-sync it feels.
Australia.
Make friends IRL, you fucking faggot.
The web and games are great for communicating with people with similar interests. Way better than real life, actually.
I like all of you a lot. You are awesome.
But for friends it's real-life all the way.
I share absolutely nothing with 99.99% of the people in my area.
As a new comer, XIV's chat doesn't seem to work well with running into random players. The chat window is cluttered with too many random things to notice what happens and speech bubbles above player heads are tiny to nonexistant.
neets
It gets better after 80 hours is what people tell me, I'll try to get to max level this time and see if that's true. Still pretty annoying
Can wow just be good again so I don't keep getting tempted to play xiv?
Play Classic WoW
So, what exactly IS "vegemite", man from down under?
No, and just buy it
That's okay. That's why you go online to talk with people similar to you. That's probably why most people are here. To talk about a topic they are interested in, and know a lot about, but have practically no one to share that with in real life.
Friends are not necessarily for that, though. They are people to spend time with for the very purpose of spending time with them. A friend is a goal in its own. He doesn't have to be similar to you, although that would certainly help. You "only" have to get along with each other.
Even after a level and character boost, this game still put me to sleep. That's what I hear as well and it's fine, I'm used to the MMO grind from WoW. But I think it spoiled me on GCDs. I hear raids are fun, but I'm not going to spend 100 hours playing an MMO I'm lukewarm about just for raiding.
All the instance content, party finders and shit ruined mmos long time ago. Fuck, this game actually discourages partying up for leveling because instance story quests every five minutes. And people wonder why are mmos dead.
Yeah it's weird as hell. Also lots of rmt ads. What server are you on?
The most terrible spread humanity has conceived of, never try it, under any circumstances.
>day 5
>got invited into fc
>okay
>one is rom UK, one US, one finn, one dane,...
>it's a politcal discussion 24/7
you can tell it's mostly old fags playing this game
>You "only" have to get along with each other.
That's not a friend, that's an acquaintance. I "only" get along with everyone at work but I would never hang out with them because other than work we have nothing to talk about.
Man, APM on DRK must be low as fuck.
I play it while watching lectures & co
it's just the right amount of distraction to feel like you play something while still doing something more productive.
Ultros, just a level 30 monk right now
Anyone on Odin?
It's low on all tanks. Ninja is highest.
>unironically playing on Light
dude
>I would never hang out with them
Then you are not getting along with each other.
What?
GNB is one of the faster jobs with the ammo and Rip/Tear/Gouge mechanic.
The other tanks look horribly slow though. PLD and WAR didn't really change and were always pretty slow paced, but DRK got its speed absolutely gutted
Not him but disagree.
getting along = no conflict working together
friends = people you do shit with in free time
Ah sry thought was about current state. Didn't look at upcoming addon.
Oui, oui, Chaos est bien mieux.
je suis d'accord
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCK OF
>Then you are not getting along with each other.
We laugh. Crack jokes. Have fun while working. But it's all surface level. That's not friendship, but it's getting alone well. As a comparison, you're trying to act like small talk about the weather is a deep emotional conversation.
pussy
>social retards think socializing magically becomes easy in video game land
lol
They're orange circles you colorblind fuck
It is
t. autistic with 0 real life friends
Just be yourself bro
It's a hell of a lot easier to socialize behind your character than in real life. Do you disagree?
>10 FFXIV threads up now
My Neptunia thread died for this.
good. fuck nepfags
Considering their racial gear is already slutty, what will Viera's Hempen gear be?
THEY ARENT SLUTTY
Any Primal pals? Not at PC right now but can add when I am. Trying to get into PvP while leveling new jobs.