Why is this consided a mediocre Final Fantasy...

Why is this consided a mediocre Final Fantasy. It's a lot of fun and I liked the magic system being able to buff the shit out of yourself. Rinoa and Squall have a romantic story. Why is it disliked?

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It's not 7

because the first disc is kino and the story should've really just stuck with the Balamb's Magic School of Guns and Sorcery shit instead of you graduating at the start and going on a wild goose chase for a villian who doesn't show up until the end of disc 4.

I mean 7 is good. I enjoyed 8's world more overall.

I mean I like the Adel hint early on.

There are people who hate it even though they've never played it. I have played it at least 3 times during its lifespan and I don't really have that much of a problem with it. I like other FFs more though..

I've tried this game half a dozen times since it came out and i keep getting filtered by the fucking boring tutorial school, it just goes on and on forever

why don't you skip it?

The hype was huge back in the day, and was a disappointing game compared to 7, worse story, characters, battle system...

Its a great game tho

I legit think that Laguna would've made for a better protagonist, and his love story was better than the Squall/Rinoa pairing. It's not a bad game at all. It's just got screwed over by having to follow the tough act that was FF7 and a lot of barely literate 8 year olds couldn't comprehend the junction system.

I geuinely feel the Laguna sections were the worst part gameplay wise but great for the story.

>tfw raine spent every day patiently waiting for laguna to come back home before squall was born
>tfw she never did again

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It's more that it's extremely polarizing. The people who like it seem to absolutely love it, but the people who hate it find it incredibly off-putting. Those folks seem to hate it because a lot of the game departs from established norms of the series, i.e. first full time, non-SD characters, leaned heavily towards modern day fantasy aesthetics rather than medieval fantasy, junction system, etc.

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Because Squall died in disc 1, and brainlets just can't accept this basic fact.

How do i skip everything up to ifrit?

Keep a save at Ifrit's Cave.

bro it takes less than ten minutes to have done everything and killed ifirit and be back in the garden

you go on the computer, get your gf's, exit, get the cards, go to the front of the school, press triangle when quistis tries to do tutorials so it skips, go to cave, press triangle on anymore tutorials, kill ifirit, go back. i'm making a video right now on breaking the game and getting everyone's ultimate weapons on the first disc and my first save file to do all that was literally like eight or nine minutes.

>i'm making a video right now on breaking the game and getting everyone's ultimate weapons on the first disc and my first save file to do all that was literally like eight or nine minutes
I guarantee you this already exists and has 10,000 more views than you will ever get.

>you go on the computer, get your gf's,
You don't even have to go to the computer to get the GFs, when you talk to Quistis at the entrance of the school she gives you the GFs.

You can speedrun sekiro in under an hour, it takes substantially longer to familiarize yourself with the content enough to do that. I don't have the patience to wander around the garden talking to people to figure out where to go or what to do. I'll try it again sometime I'm sure

Oh yeah, for sure. Don't get me wrong, the Laguna sections of the game are always a slog for me to get through. But his overall story arc and Laguna as a character are just great.
;_;

>learning how to speedrun one game is the same as learning the basic fundamentals of another
Nice bait thread, I hope you put a bullet in your worhtless summerfag brain.

>I don't have the patience to wander around the garden talking to people to figure out where to go or what to do.
You literally have to talk to no one before going to Ifrit. When you get control of Squall just go to the entrance of Garden. At no point are you required to talk to random people.

Because of this bitch. THIS BITCH. RIGHT HERE.

This fucking bitch is the only reason why FF7 went to shit. She corrupted the story, she corrupted the protag, her fighting abilities is not even worth it. Fucking worst girl.

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Thanks i didn't know that.
How do i skip the laguna parts?

>How do i skip the laguna parts?
You can't

and then NT had to give her a shit voice actress

You can't. Go play a different game that will keep your ADHD engaged.

>How do i skip the laguna parts?
Go from Point A to Point B. They're short and linear as fuck.

this. FF8's tutorial section is short and simple.
FF10 is fuckin way worse, the whole first 10 hours are tutorial railroad handholding.

yeah but defintely one of my most fun playthroughs was a spellcasting manaburn party using Rinoa, Selphie and Quistis.

>be me
>watching some French documentary about low Japanese fertility rates called "Love and Sex in Japan"
>talks about waifus
>give literally two VERY specific examples of a waifu
>Rinoa Heartilly
What did France mean by this?

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>spongebab
>"be me"
I don't know, but I'm pretty sure I don't want you posting here for the rest of your summer break.

Bad villain(s)

Unfocused story

Tech seems more inconsistent and anachronistic than 7’s did.

I dunno, I’d have to replay it but the formula just did not work

Laguna's story stretches over the course of many years.

i love it, it was part of my young days of gaming

>and his love story was better than the Squall/Rinoa pairing

to be fair the Squall/Rinoa pairing was rushed as fuck

and yet better developed than Noctis/Luna

I hate the gameplay system. I also hate Triple Triad.

I fucking hate laguna. I hate stupid characters with dumb luck who become kings. Too real for me

>using good spells will actively weaken you
>fucked level scaling means running from battle constantly is the better choice
>fucking atrocious translation
Did you know that every time Squall says "whatever" it's because the person translating the script to english got lazy and wanted to cut out multiple lines of dialog
Only good things about the game are triple triad and the music

Everything Edea says during Disc one is actually Ultimecia's words. The speech at the end of the disc makes more sense this way, as you can see how Ultimecia was a Sorcered who has been hated and hunted because the stuff she did on the past.

In other words, Ultimecia hates humanity because humanity hates her for something she hasn't done in her present, but she will do in her future as she tried to destroy the past.

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>Did you know that every time Squall says "whatever" it's because the person translating the script to english got lazy and wanted to cut out multiple lines of dialog
No, it's because there's no English equivalent to "shoganai". Fuck your disinformation.

Drawing was newb trap.
Writing is terrible (Quistis going to apologize for example)
Insufferable characters.

>Drawing was newb trap.
>something that keeps retards out is a negative
I bet you fell for that trap, dipshit.

>getting everyone's ultimate weapons on the first disc
You can't get Irvines ultimate weapon on disc 1, only his second best
Getting everyone else's is as simple as getting the rule were you get all your opponents cards when you win triple triad and then playing cards for an hour or two against a couple npcs in balamb gardens until you get enough cards to refine for the materials to make the weapons
You can get almost everyone's best weapon ready to be made before you even leave for Dollet for the SeeD exam

>there's no English equivalent to "shoganai".
Just deal with it

Whatever.

>Drawing was newb trap.

and yet what the manual and tutorial encouraged

That actually would've been better, yes.