XIV

Old BLM AoE downtime:
0. zero mp after flare
1. transpose to 1 ice stack
2. wait for mana tick (could take a while if unlucky)
3. cast blizzard 4 to get hearts, you get 3 but 2 of those will go to waste. moderate cast time and almost negligible damage for an AoE situation, huge time dump
4. thunder (optional depending on mobs HP status)
5. still actually at 1 ice stack so hard cast fire 3 with a LONG ass cast time

New BLM AoE downtime:
0. zero mp after flare
1. cast freeze at 0mp anyway because 0 is also the number of fucks given. gain 1 heart in the process because 1 is also the number of hearts you'll ever need in AoE
2. thunder (optional depending on mobs HP status)
3. freeze already put you at 3 ice stacks so cast fire 3 with SHORT ass cast time

This shit is honestly quite ridiculous. BLM already pushed out serious AoE damage in SB even with the downtime being as long as it was. Now that the downtime has been reduced to almost nothing I can't imagine what are they going to be like.

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You can only reply if your main is SAFE

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forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/forums/659

open up a bag of popcorn and enjoy the healer salt on the forums. make sure to note what server the people are posting from too.

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IMAGINE actually being a SCHuck in 2019

This has got to be a bug.

Cats are the most played race and that's not going anywhere. I think a lot will change to Bunny for a month or so and then go back to their catgirls like always. Just be glad we aren't Japan

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Everything about it just looks fucking weak. I know shit will be "adjusted" for launch, but damn it looks slow and weak.

Xeno says Trusts are rough and shit so I'll take his word for it.

Replace BLM with SAM for maximum Brotherhood efficiency and physical DPS wankfest.

Any reason to use Blizzard 3 over Freeze when Freeze is actually usable now? or is Freeze still a wonky placed AoE

I have all healers at 70 so I can choose what I want to main during ShB but I don't know what the fuck to pick. It's like they fucked over all three just to personally attack me. This shit sucks.

thats the only gripe I have otherwise DRK is fine

>BLM have best single target compared to smn
>also have best aoe

Whats the point?

Sleeping EZ now, looking forward to having hands on time with the changes

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I'm looking forward to boss fights more, when seeing something like this pop up mid fight.

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I think it's balanced around Darkside attack buff, but who fucking know how much it buffs.

potency numbers are obviously not final. also there were a couple of bugs in the media tour build like one of gunbreakers skills not working properly.

they probably nerfed Combust 2 to 40 potency or something

Whats wrong with Japan?

DRK looks fucking sick now. Thank you Yoshi you listened.

WHM main. I'm neutral for the moment but I'll be glad if they actually do increase healing requirements across the board to make up for the loss of damage skills.

BLM here, safest job in the game, literally the only nerf in our kit was removing the Bind on Blizzard II.

Even so the greatest result of all this is seeing SCHcucks go absolutely nuclear.

We might be competing harder with SAM though, those assholes can do fucking 3k potency every single minute.

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I guess it can work in optimal setups, but not for every fight

Look at how much they play lal*fell

They all play lalafel

>Let's put those healer mains out onto a tray
>Ni- oh, yeah, that's rancid. Botulism city.

you switch to the better jobs user. its the natural way of life

SAMchads are back with revenge.

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Combust 1 is 40 potency

>class that ONLY does damage does the most damage
Whoa
Don't worry SMN. Whine loud enough and you'll have ANOTHER expansion of being overpowered as fuck.

Same. It's hard to defend any of the changes.

>all these bandwagoning faggots jumping ship on SAM after they shat on us this hard for the last two years
FUCK OFF YOU KEKS YOU DON'T DESERVE TO WIELD A KATANA, YOU MHIGGERS

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>Everything that I don't play is overpowered

Cuck

Can someone give me a summary of everything after this embargo lifted.
Bonus points if you give me the summary full of memes and buzzwords

Why make everything even more braindead?

>It's like they fucked over all three just to personally attack me.
If you're pretending to be a woman you're doing a really good job at it.

I switched to SAM from DRG from the very beginning.

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Nope, it's the mp cost that changes. Because 1% less mp used every 30 seconds is apparently very important.

>all these healers claiming they're going to quit
>90% of them are going to keep playing healers
Just be honest, you don't want to give up those fast queues

Then why didn't they nerf TA?

Like I said, what's wrong with Japan? You say that like its a bad thing, but lalafells are the best race.

I had it already at 70lvl with full sks build.

Why no more leaks???

Everything is RDM levels of skills required also see this "You dont pay for my sub" posters actually won.

Freeze is going to be used from now on. It's in the "new BLM AoE" list.

>plays the training wheels version of the mhigger job
>calls other people mhiggers
dumb mhigger.

I went SAM the second SB hit and never looked back, I earned my oranges and I'm gonna do it again

NIN is absolute dogshit, too much clipping to be played properly

DRK keeps losing awesome moves.
First scourge and now powerslash.

Thanks owo. I'm going to fantasia into a GUNBUNNY and ERP in Limsa Lominsa.

People say WAR is in the shed even though we got solid potency buffs and massive new weaponskills.
Only because we didn't get lots of new flashy skills doesn't mean the job is bad.

Every healer changes/new stuff is shit, unironically.

Is there any difference between Phoenix and Bahamut? Firebird trance and DWT? I feel like we will be more braindead than RDM

ATONEMENT LEAKER WAS RIGHT AND WE ALL LAUGHED AT HIM
AAAAAAAAA

I paid millions of shekels to buy a katana at asking price, I deserve one

>Wah now I can't solo content as a healer now I'm forced to party up in this MMO

The crazy part is even if they buff DRK tool kit it's stil 1 2 3 job so I'm going GNB this expansion

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SCH being brought down to a reasonable level does not mean everything is RDM levels of braindead

KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK

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Fast queues only exist because people don't want to play those roles mate, not the other way around.

If everyone is upset about their classes changes then doesn't that mean that the game is going to be hard or does it mean the game is going to be piss easy and boring and we should go quit?

GNB is 123 job for 35 seconds too.

We knew that they're 1:1 from yesterday's leakanon.

no shit, user

>Gunbreaker gets "ready to rip tear and gouge" buffs after using their combos

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Firebird's Ruin/Outburst are stronger

SCH is not every healer, sweaty :)

MCH in the bad and good times reporting in.

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I honestly won't be surprised if solo heal with Dancer and Gunbreaker offhealing is the new meta.

>Yellow Coat woman = Anatman
>Samurai with Bow = Art of War for SCH (people actually thought it was for SAM
What else am I missing?

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>One dot one aoe one spammable
>Not braindead

LMFAOOOOO just look at ASTs card mechanics, they're brain dead as fuck now LMFMOAOOOOAO

Are you retarded?

God it feels good watching SCHfags seethe and run around screeching like this. It's about fucking time they got what was coming to them.

While they were out circlejerking, we studied the blade.
And now they DARE come and main OUR job?

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Smn is more mobile and has dots and a rez.

Blm is (mostly) a turret and only does pure damage

I don't know how to feel.

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>DPS jobs are all better than ever
>tanks get more DPS tools and high potency bursts
>healers get reduced damage, reduced flexibility, and few actions across the board

So what is the point of playing a healer in Shadowbringers? You're literally going to do more for your party as a DPS now.

MCH is flashy, and I'm glad the heat management looks a bit more involved now, but I'm definitely jumping ship.

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dancer looks broken boys

You don't play healer and only want to meme about SCH, got it.

>No more building GL stack with RoW
RIP TK rotation as we know it. I'm gonna miss stance dancing on MNK. Looking forward to the rest of the changes though.

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looks way more active than drk with it's procs and continuation skill

Solohealing will only be a thing if the team did the bare minimum to make healers focus on healing, which 70% chance they did so this normalization of healers was all for nothing and competent players will still DPS hard while halfassing their healing to clear fights.

SHB looking like an absolute disaster

PLD reporting

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Is there a way to post a purchase order on the market board?
Like "I want to buy this for X gil?"
Or do I just need to wait for someone to list the thing at a reasonable price?

dubs decide what job I play in sbh

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At least you kind of have a shit budget tier fell cleave as resource spender and 2 dots to keep up.

Nigga form your own opinion instead of being a sheep that takes everything said on a anonymous shitposting board as fact.

THANKS YOSHIP, SUMMONER IS FUCKING PERFECT

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>GNB gets dark dance
ITS NOT FAIR DRKCHADS

if MNK gets any easier I'll try it out

RDM are the new healers, every dps has heal options now so you don't even need to worry about bringing a green.

Healsluts still exist

Who do you hate more, Garleans or Ala Mhigans?

What if emerying in ShB will hit like a train?

I play WHM and AST, actually, and I think their changes are fine

Mud is camofloage, dragon is the nidhogg dive, chonchita wurst is the phenoix, droideka is queen turret

At least ninja and samurai still look fun. Too much midare spam for me with the double iaijutsu and 60 second meikyo but 50 kenki every minute makes up for it.

>God it feels good watching SCHfags seethe and run around screeching like this. It's about fucking time they got what was coming to them
All the healers are literally ruined. They're going to have to do something about them or the numbers will drop.

Imagine healing in Shadowniggers

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That's literally one of the posts on the healer forums. They are complaining that they can't solo stuff as a healer easily or quickly because their DPS is nerfed.

Honestly i am fine with the AST changes, though i do wonder if divination stacks with the cards or not.

Can't really be mad about healer changes when AST damage will be the same. I just wish the AST cards had a bit more flavor and weren't literally just balance. You're already forced to use all cards because of the seals so there's no reason for them to all be balance.

literally no one is saying that any more

I'm going to keep playing SCH because I love the tactician aesthetics of the job. New fairy management stuff looks nice.

Ruined how?

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Two clocks were removed. This is good.

>People getting defensive or belligerent about a PvE game where you can switch classes at will

Besides, you should be able to play every class to a high level.

Garleans are true snake niggers.

They still will. Healers are inherently masochists that enjoy being shat on. The whining is just a facade.

Yes, well, one thing WHM didn't need is more heals.

It does stack.

>Ruined how?
Not fun anymore

>trick attack still allowed to exist

How the fuck did this happen?

Ala Mhiggers
Garleans get btfo on the regular, but Mhiggers never get called out on being Mhiggers.

Ala Mhigans for sure. Garleans did Eorzea a favor by putting up a wall between the Shroud and Gyr Abania.

Explain to me how a single combo consisting of 3 skills for a job at EIGHTY is okay.

How does the new SMN work? Seems more difficult than the current SMN.
>always dot shit up for more Fester potency and Ruin potency
>use Energy Drain/Siphon to get a full stack of Aetherflow, 2 charges
>use Fester for single target/painflare for aoe to spend charges
What's the prerequisite of summoning Bahamut now and how does Dreadwyrm trance play into this? I understand how Phoenix Trance and summoning Demi Phoenix works after Bahamut, but I don't understand the perquisites of summoning Bahamut or how Dreadwyrm trance plays into that.

Have fun doing dungeons without a healer.

Sorry I guess ironic statements don't translate well over the internet. Everyone is chimping out because of changes. If everyone is upset and shitting on each other it sounds like the majority of people are just stupid and the game will still be fun.

Good thing we also got some more damage then, huh?

what % dmg did block block again?

>Yoshi pp
>You should be healing not dpsing! we give more heals!
>All the new heals actually make it even easier to solo heal
>This is their "fix"

Ok so in raid we just take 5 dps 2 tanks and 1 healer like last time. Probably don't even need 2 tanks either.

So how did BRD come out now that we have potencies and shit

So for AST: what happened to Royal Road and Spread? New abilities or just removed?

>Healers are inherently masochists that enjoy being shat on. The whining is just a facade.
ASTs aren't whining, WHMs aren't whining. The only ones whining are SCHs(dps)

Is that why there are multiple AST/WHM players saying things are fine ITT?

>defending less variety because only a handful of classes are good/fun to play because "lol nobody's forcing you to play the bad shit"

It already took a long time to solo anything as a healer while RDM is still blazing through no problem.

based and lalapilled

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pedo post

>doing dungeons without a healer.
Trusts are a thing now. We don't need you anymore.

AST. Fuck the haters, if everyone who claims to quit healing, quits. I'm getting faster queues and into more clear groups.

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Where my NIN bros at? Bunshin looks good.

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I'm not /pol/ so I don't hate them, Both are pretty boring.

You summon something every aetherflow stack and the wyrmwave/phoenix shit only procs off of weaponskills

>Watch fanfest when SAM is announced
>Tell all my friends I'm going SAM day 1
>Everyone says I should stay PLD since PLD is kino this expansion
>Dead set on mastering the way of the blade
>SB launches
>Everyone else gets stuck at Raubahn's Wall while I level to 60
>End up keeping pace with all the people who said I'd be behind
>Hit 70, clear all endgame content
>Get shat on for 2 years as I continue to get clears in savage raids and extreme trials
>Everyone tells me just go DRG and I tell them to fuck off
>ShB hits and people bandwagon onto SAM

Gonna be fun to master the new rotation and compete with all the new SAM players. Can't wait.

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What happened to SCH? I swear the shed changes everyday.

Anybody think GNB will get a 3rd cartridge and a quick reload equivalent down the line since they axed ammo from mch? I liked that aspect of it personally.

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best AF3s (Separate armor and weapons)? I personally like RDM, SMN and MCH armor while I really like BLM, RDM and AST weapons

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Stance dancing is still in, you'll be starting in FoF, then changing to FoW right before the snap on your third GL, then activating RoF and Brotherhood as you normally would in an opener before the upcoming demolish, pop all your CDs, SSS and TK before RoF and Brotherhood fall off, change back to FoF and snap, SSS again, then anatman to climb back to GL3, change back to FoW to get your fourth on the upcoming coeurl form and then do your regular rotation until the next RoF and Brotherhood window

Tbh it got even more clunky

Slightly, still doesn't compensate the lack of raid utility which we still don't have.

So PLD is Chad and DRK is in the shed. How are GNB and WAR stacking up?

Does yoshi even play his own game?

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I finally won't want to eat my fingers when playing my boi anymore, happy days all around!

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When do they bill you for the pre-order anyway? I can't seem to find any decent info.

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Okay, see you in low skill level dungeons while I'll be clearing raids with my statics.

SCH mains are seething because they actually have to play their role now instead of green DPS.

I won't have to worry about that, because all you healcucks are going to keep playing it anyway, you won't give up those fast queues

I'M GOING TO SAY THE C WORD

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lmao i thought this was the dark knight expansion?

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Are BRD songs actually stances where you just choose which one you want or still needing to rotate?

See: RR and Spread are gone.
Redraw has 3 charges.

WAR/GNB meta I fucking called it

They lost some DPS options (Miasma, shadowflare, energy drain) but get more OCD heals. Adlo was also buffed to stronger shields and you get a guaranteed crit heal skill but because you can't spread crit adlos anymore people are despair posting

I wouldn't mind this honestly. Temperance's damage reduction and Neutral Sect's shields make solo healing a very high probability, at least with the current level of healing needed in mind.

More like they're going to get UNGA CD like WAR's Inner Release and DRK's nu-Delirium so you can have fun spamming Burst Strike forever.

For this reason, my friends and I have a joke calling ff14 "Cat Planet"

You just gotta keep an eye out as far as I'm aware

SCHfags are mad they don't get to just be a DPS with a short queue anymore

>have to play their role now
no healer has had to play their role even once durin this entire game's lifetime

Exactly what the leaks showed what would happen. They got better healing and are also painfully boring. They are now exactly as fun to play as whm which whm take as a victory. But they still have a raid buff so they will still have priority over whm.

>DRK's summon Fray skill is effectively just an ???? potency oGCD with no other interactivity

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For me, it's Red.

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Seething lol

I think TK in RoF will still be a thing but it will only be used every 2 RoF.
SSS => TK => Anatman (1 stack) => Snap Punch => Perfect Balance
We'll have to wait and see

>removing powerslash instead of having it do something other than generate aggro
why? I was looking forward to actually using it for once

I wasnt a fan of MNK at first because I thought the chest had fur lining yet again, but it was just because I didnt realize it was sleeveless and being used by a hrothgar but it's growing on me and we get another nice gauntlet weapon intead of punchdaggers. RDM, BLM and MCH are the snazziest

>WAR meta
not with those PLD potencies friendo

Wait tll people do the raids before judging. For all we know everything hits a fuck ton harder. Remember back in ARR patch times when auto attacks in coil actually hurt and didn't tickle like they do in HW/SB?

Paladin here, eager to see salty tears from DRK and WAR

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After the garleans blackrose ishgard, everyone will unite against them I feel

When you put in the order

>PLD

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I don't believe that you can cast that shit five times during request cat window.

Ending Dreadwrym Stance automatically gives you 2 stacks of Demi-Bahamut juice. It takes 2 juice to summon a Demi Bahamut.
So you'll be going Ruinshit->Dots shit->Energy Siphon for x2 Aetherflow->Festers ->DWT -> NUT ->Bahaboie -> NUT -> Firebird Trance -> NUT ->20-25s refractory period to juice up DWT again and repeat.

>DRG is shit and MNK is ok
>SAM and NIN are absolutely busted to fuck
YEAR OF THE WEEB
YEAR OF THE WEEB
YEAR OF THE WEEB
YEAR OF THE WEEB

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That's annoying, I wish I could just list a buy offer on the board so people can sell directly to me while I'm away doing other things.

WAR is fine like always. GNB will need crazier dots and a better Burst Strike to be competitive. At the moments PLD buffs and dots shits all over him.

What else would it be?

You faggots serious?

forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/391229-Kneejerk-reaction-to-PLD-changes.

>female monk set is the same as male set
thank you for delicious pits and side boob, yoshi

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No they don't, at least not me. Don't tell me you play on steam? Oh no no no...

MCHfags, we should stack SkS now, right?

the summon does the same attacks everytime, so someone will total the potency by the end of today

Just because I play a lalafell doesn't mean I find them sexually attractive, I still jerk off to cat girls and whatever other titty sluts are walking around. I just like being cute and getting free shit. Like I said, Lalafell is the best race, just have to know how to play it. I have friends all over because they think I'm cute.

Look at this adorable little bastards.

No they don't

>PLD and Gash
Thats very melon of you

Read the fucking skill. you cast the ultimate holy spirit only after 4 holy spirits.

How fucked am I if I'm playing male Roegadyn Gladiator on Balmung and I'm not into gay shit?

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Xeno has spoken. Its WAR/PLD again.

So class balance is in the shitter at launch again as usual and we'll have to wait until 5.3 for things to be okay again?

Yeah? Remember when t13 was solo healed by a scholar?

reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/bufn9w/all_healers_on_suicide_watch/

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Saw it, was just curious if there were compensation abilities or not. Thanks. Is Divination post-70? That'd be pretty concerning if its the only thing that allows seal spending and learning which card gives which seal.

>WAR
>meta
LOL

probably because that artist who did stuff like RDM and BLM didn't do it, and she's stuck on doing really dainty aesthetics for women and then realizing shit I have to do a male version

it says right there that using Confiteor ends Requiescat. You either use Holy Spirit (which is instant now) * 4 > Confiteor or the the AoE Holy spirit equivalent

>Effect fades upon execution.
It's a finisher.

PLD here

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game looks balanced to me

Honestly I don't mind it, it's pretty hard to fuck up cat character creation.

>MNK is ok
literally the go-to partner for DNC now with GL4 and in turn getting a huge boost to crit and dh

>463930274
oh I dont fucking know, literally anything else? you generate twice as much blood? you gain a defensive shield? you get a hard dick? how about anything other than a literal ??? dps cooldown?
for fucks sake aren't we meant to be tanks, why is our capstone ability just a dps cooldown
why is yoshi falling for the blue dps meme

Just makes raid utility even more important since personal dps will be in the toilet.

Reminder Holy Spirit got massively nerfed, in SB's media tour it was like 500 pot, at release it's 380, these numbers are not final, curb your enthusiasm

youtube.com/watch?v=YWkJ_C8XaHI

Good thing the meta doesn't matter to anyone but autistic NEETs who have literally nothing in their life but this one game

This

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as a SCH main I'm ok with all this actually
we do less dps but our healing kit is actually stronger and we retain the same utility
the meta's gonna be SCH/AST all over again
I'm gonna miss energy drain and shadow flare though

The SAM set is shit. I say this as a SAM main.

I'd kind of hate that actually. There's something satisfying about just slamming ammo into your gun constantly.

WAR can give a permanent 10% damage reduction to whoever they want along with healing that party member for every action they perform. Dunno how much healing it'll provide yet, haven't seen anybody use it in any of the videos.

That 40% statistic is going up.

enjoy clipping suiton and raiton every 30 seconds and double weaving mudras inside TA

After people were best in slot geared and you got echo immediately upon entering

>examine people in town
>a dozen machinists

Maybe i'll just play bard.

Are we seriously linking to fucking reddit threads now?

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>balmung
>not into gay shit
>roegadyn
user, I have a feeling you're either lying or you picked the worst possible server you could.

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Oh so turns out the statement you made is retarded. Right got ya. Well, I'll be enjoying my instant queues when not with my static because all you idiots will all jump on DPS that will "benefit" the group more. Benefit the group with your 35 minute queue times pleb.

Make way pleb, lala healer coming through.

The SAM set is excellent. I say this as a SAM main.

>Gunbreaker got Scourge and Dark Knight didn't

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>DRK got world first coil ultimate last time
yeah whatever

something that interacts with you? Such as either mimicking attacks you perform or doing something like if you cast The Blackest Night on a party member then Fray casts TBN on you. Something that lets you interact with him.

As it is Fray is just a fancy DoT debuff icon.

>we do less dps but our healing kit is actually stronger and we retain the same utility

Excuse me retard but we don't need any changes from what we have now, we're perfectly capable of doing any healing content as we currently are, these """"new"""" skills are unnecessary.

My takeaway from this is that Hrothgar PLD is pretty sexy

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>MNK is ok
>he doesn't know

Reddit has been crawling all over these threads for a while now thanks to the leaks.

>now
Oh my sweet summer child... have you been in a coma for a few years?

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GNB also got Dark Dance

I like how simple it is, literally an alternate-world version MNK's AF1.

AF1 > AF4 > AF3 > dogshit > AF2

GNB: Most fun
DRK: Best animations
WAR: Best personal mitigation
PLD: Best party mitigation/utility

>MCH lost all of its damage utility
Now nobody is going to play it after they finally fixed it, bravo Yoshi

Me too, but if you look closer, you'll see that GNB catridge system works almost the same way as WAR's rage gauge and DRK's blood gauge. Both even have same filler spender that cost half of it, and gets more from doing combo.
I do hope they expand on reload instead though.

Good luck competing with 3250 potency in a single GCD window, MNKucks

>AST is slowly getting its time based abilities trimmed off so they can give them to Time Mage down the line
Yoshi you crafty motherfucker

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>have to re-gear to get the most out of the new wildfire

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How?

Yeah I love being forced to just push one button for 10 minutes to acquire more healing spells I dont need.

Implying theyll ever make it to 70

the main change for heals is you no longer energy drain, rouse is gone, and you have a seraph phase where your fairy is casting shields all over the place

>Larry has actually recorded video with new skills
not shilling but yeah

current war main here
want to switch to dps because feeling like tank role doesn't fit me
what jobs fits me the best

>all those trannies thinking the japs found some sort of hidden trick to using drk
>they couldn't believe they just cleared it with a non meta comp

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we don't know what any of the encounters are going to be like

like how no one plays BLM and SAM.

Every type of dps now has a selfish role.

Nobody is saying you can clear content, but it objectively could have gone better if said expert player had played the others.

It's a step above AF3, but yeah the huge coat still ruins it. Plus we know it dyes terribly

I'm very concerned about them culling utility skills. Why are they doing this?

I got a good feeling the raid auto attacks are going to hurt a lot more in Shadowbringers. Hence why they gave Gunbreaker a regen+shield baked in, DRK has more TBN focus, and Paladin can block+parry.

To be entirely fair Dark Mind basically was a hidden trick because everyone ignored it not realizing it's a fucking god tier cooldown in a magic-heavy fight.

How are people going to do Coil etc syncd? It's going to be impossible...

they are already level 70. They are just wearing dungeon greens.

>same thing with WHM and stone/wind abilitites so GEO can become a thing
Crafty indeed

Still just as boring.

they didn't fix machinist

guess which are the 2 that matter

>New SMN is literally just DWT>Bahamut>Phoenix>Repeat every 1 minute
>Don't even have to cast dots manually because you get 2 Tri-Disaster refreshes
>4 Festers every minute while you're at it
>Ruin are literally Sidewinders now
>4 guaranteed Ruin 4s every minute on top of that
Who SMN here?

Except BASED NIN KEEPING IN ALL POWERFUL TRICK ATTACK WHILE ALSO GETTING TONS MORE PERSONAL DPS GENIUS MOVE YOSHI

>AF1
Literal garbage

>He thought AF3 SAM was bad
holy fuck im begging you, get some taste

>tfw male Elezen

I assumed it was the most popular race when I started playing, too. I mean, the Elf race in an MMO? Who'd have fucking thought everyone hates them

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>Alisaie, Alphinaud, and Minfilla as Trusts for the fairy dungeon
Babysitting time.

FLUID AURA GO AWAY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

War's target shield thing only lasts for 6 seconds and is on a 25s cooldown.

So it'll probably be up for anything important but it's hardly permanent. Makes them decent at offtank though. I think PLD/WAR is going to be the best setup (based on current values) and I think it really makes no difference who MTs and who OT's, they both perform either role just fine now.

PLD still has cover i guess though.

>tfw this was my high school graduation song
>tfw AST healer main

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Divination is 50.
Sleeve draw gives you 3 charges of draw and resets the CD meaning you can four in a row. Minor arcana upgrades your buff but removes the seal.
No replacement for spread or road as it were.

>Go through all the effort to get Deathlocke Lux
>Don't even main MCH

Guess I'll level it to 80 out of principle and see how fun it is.

people dont play those jobs though

>They couldn't process that he played DRK because he thought it was fun
It was hilarious watching them glitch out because they actually couldn't process someone playing a job because it was fun to them.

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>but dude, my DAMAGE
yeah, having big deeps sure helped SAM stay out of the shed for SB

oh wait

>a skill that has options to do more things is just as boring as something that doesn't have those options
don't ever reply to me again

The amount upset people trying to say other people are upset is so funny. I am still going to heal on my sch, and craft and make my house pretty and there is nothing you nerds can do to stop me from having fun.

Here you can see the early stage of LOOK AT MY NUMBER. Soon that will be his only identity and he will become stagnant. Previous victim: WAR with their MUH CLEAVE

I didn't want to learn how to SMN as a SCH main but as they're drifting as far apart as possible I might give it a go

/IN/
can't wait to feel like an actual real fucking summoner
they started it in SB, and now they're ramping it up even further in ShB
no longer a fucking glorified warlock

So the only way to balance healers was to make them the same?

What specific utility did they call exactly?

Because "utility" as we had it was objectively bad in how it forced specific party compositions, in a game where the freedom to play the job you want was important. I wouldn't be surprised if Trick Attack and Dancer in general get knocked down a few pegs in about a month.

Bros...not another 2 years of WAR/PLD/SCH/AST...

Celestial Opposition is still in though. It's just shitty now.
Also lightspeed was buffed to account for it's lack of extensions.

the two that do the most damage

They look a bit off in this game and as a result there's more attractive races, but yeah it's fucking weird considering WoW is like 30% blood elves and shit.

The only safe job is black mage because Yoshida will never let them get too bad. That's why he's trying to destroy the meta.

>fairy dungeon

Time for headcanon

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WHM looks good, we can still spam dps, regens, we have a AOE shield now and a nuke. It's a actually better than SB WHM already

Anatman only gives a stack after like 3 seconds have passed.

>Healer main since HW
>We used to have to have a say in the party damage with stuff like Virus and Disable
>SCH used to literally be a DPS with 5 dots to manage
>Healer needed at least 2 braincells to stance dance and it was fun
>SB dumbed us down by taking out dots and utilities out of the healers on top of killing stance dancing but gave some neat new stuff so it was okay
>Now ShB is gutting our dps even more
Being a healer main is suffering.
But somehow gotta do the job in the sea of shitters...

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Are WARs actually out of the shed? Or are they just desperately trying to claw their way out?

>implying I haven't been here from the beginning
I spent 8 fucking hours in SB early access leveling to 60 for msq and never looked back.

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Not to mention MNK was behind SAM by only about 500dps which was easily covered by BH.

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>Healers kicked into the ground
>Stripped of their deeps
>SCH especially spat on and then raped
>They dont even get a new job to jerk off over
This is the expansion that kills me with laughter

That's right, idiot.

>well, ackshually, technically
dilate tranny

>burst shot animation

guess i'm not swapping from brd mch anyways, but at least leveling mch will be fun instead of pure hell

They were never in the shed
It is just rabid shitposters

I'd raid her dungeon.

Yes, this is why you use it after SSS

Don't pay attention to them. We've studied the blade.

The nuke's sort of cool but it's basically to keep you neutral on DPS from using GCDs for the lily heals instead of Glares.

More of the same stuff isn't good mate.

WHM does more personal damage than all the healers. AST still provides the best party DPS out of all the healers. Scholar is in the middle.

How can two terrible opinions be posted within a second of eachother?

>GL4 speed
this is fast
>both SAM and MNK are turbo sonics now

I am. Play whatever race you want, piss on whoever says otherwise.

I'm hoping DNC is really, REALLY good just so we can see all the goofball male characters forced to play it

Yes you are.

You won't be laughing when your queue times go over 2 hours :)

>SCH
>suffering
Come back when you get a time machine and repeat ARR to ShB as WHM.

That post started out so hot I thought you were gonna say
>Stripped of their clothes

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>no more garuda bullshit
I'm ok with this but the job will be easy as fuck now.

I really want to spitroast the sch in my static with a fellow big dick dps like sam

It's not that everyone hates them, if anything, people really like seeing Elezen, especially when they were made with care in the creator, because a well made Elezen really stands out.
Rather most players want to play catgirls/au ra because they find it easier to have fuck fantasies about them, they don't play them themselves, but even if they looked nicer, they still wouldn't because they want to play cat/lizard girls

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BLM is the true chad DPS

It's SCH and AST that are getting kicked down and raped. WHM has already been down there for years and are telling AST and SCH it's not so bad once you get used to it.

That actually makes sense when you think about it. Being able to mitigate auto attacks with a mid combo shield and ogcd regen comes in handy.

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Do the Queen auto-attacks affect Wildfire?
I'm watching Mr Brappy's vid on MCH and he mentioned that.

Reminder that whatever the WoL chooses to main is shit in the expansion.

why can't Femezens be this sexy in-game?

Gunbreaker looks to be OP, literally has everything in its kit

aight new main new me
what are some cool looking ninja weapons

People love male Elezen, what are you on about? Just because they are not populous doesn't mean people don't want to be boned by them.

I think the reload idea could easily fix some of that funny enough, and even make the filler spenders flow with the rest of the kit better. I do like it though, its giving me slight shades of HW DRK.
Hell, maybe they could change it to make Sonic Break an optional spender if you have ammo.

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Did they seriously remove DA spam so you can replace it Edge/Flood spam instead?

Is it just me or is Divination's cooldown far too long? You're going to draw enough cards to use it like 3 times over before you can cast it.

>Drg is trash
As a drg main I'm happy.

I mained WHM since ARR, I'm good.

>trust system

yeah fuck this, im going HOME

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Is the damage reduction really on a 6 second cooldown? The tooltip implies it last 30 seconds, which would be deadass retarded but I wouldn't put it past them.

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Too real, user...

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Heavensward pretty much conditioned everyone to like Elezen anyway, considering there was some kind of law that EVERY male Elezen NPC has to be based beyond belief

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relic, PvP red one, UCoB, seeing horde, dead hive

Dragoon looks like shit. I'm glad because now I don't have to main it

Hold up! Dragoon was at it's best in HW.

>SAM
Looks like dungeon loot.
The designers for AF gear are so fucking shit, should be fired after the shit they gave us for StB

I mained WHM in 1.0, what now?

male elezen is played much more than female elezen too

how did your mother birth two disabled eyes right next to eachother, retard

>PLD still has cover i guess though.
It was nerfed tho, now PLD need to use a CD when covering.

they shouldnt when only gcds of the mch affect wildfire now. once again mr happy doesnt know anything

Yes, the tooltip is just wrong (Xeno says in his video that it only lasts a short time). You can even see this by watching the official job trailers that the SCH has a 'buff disappearing' animation on them 6s after he casts it on them.

WOW, I NO LONGER HAVE TO THINK, THANK YOU YOSHI P

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what's the problem, user?

youtube.com/watch?v=jsw0Sht66BA

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We're going home bros...to the old school community and game design.

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based Ishgard, restoration can't come fast enough, gotta make our home as good as it can be

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It's not like we've already seen them by now in the job action trailer and can't figure out which effect is which skill.

I know right? I thought it was gonna be the new shiny thing retards and c00l kids would flock to, but seeing how they changed MCH, gave DNC a lot of attention, made DRK the posterboy, and improved PLD, GNB will only be played by absolute chads

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>bard is now the only ranged dps that can damage buff everyone
I feel like dancer will be very overrated and only supported by groups that have literally one dps carrying them or fflog obsessed catering shitters.

UNT

I don't believe you.

I mean all the jobs are made easier now. It's just something we have to accept

What the fuck are these cards? It's literally the same 2 cards

I tried SkS build at at ilvl 383 I only do like 7k dps at max. Am I retarded?

Dancer has a party wide damage buff.

bros...home...

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You can easily tell who started in HW or SB ITT.

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your parents already know you're gay, user.

Which is better? Fist of Fire + Riddle of Fire or Fist of Wind + Riddle of Fire? Why is Tornado Kick still existing?

>Combust 2 upgrades to Combust 3
>Literally the only change is to reduce its cost to when it was Combust 1

Who the fuck approved this?

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Maybe, they could even give us optional cartridge spender that improve increase out explosion attack to some ridiculous level (kinda like DA, but less spammy because ammo cap).
We will see in 3 years, but honestly, after seeing what they did to Delirium I don't have much hope.

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>MCH video
>Automaton Queen
>"And this Queen SLAYS"
>Immediately close video

I mean, that logic is already long than
>Did I get balance?
>Redraw
>Did I get balance?
>Undraw

>throwing away every card that isnt balance involves thought

I will sacrifice myself to main healer to speed up your q's bros.

fishing is pretty comfy. i've neglected it for a while.

Thank god. No Five IV scenario where you get the bread and butter spell at end. Too bad Time Dilation got removed and CO is a shadow of its former self, though. Feels a little unnecessary compared to what WHM is still keeping on their kit by comparison.

is this a fucking joke

we better get to finish our dinner date with Aymeric after we rebuild our housing district.

Pic related, his NA voice actor.

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Yeah you and Mr. Happy will awe everyone.

What can I do to prove it? I got that lame ass calamity tatoo on my character and the 1.0 goobue if nothing else.

This can't be real.

>automaton queen

is that a motherfucking jojo reference

How?

Do the BRD songs have a duration or not?

I wonder how fast a MNK with max SkS and GL4 will go?

hey, thats not true at all. Bards liked Spear on the pull and some casters liked Arrow

>680+ potency spell at the end of every AF phase
>AOE rotation is even more powerful and fun with Freeze being good, every spell is a huge fuckoff explosion now
>More flexibility with Xenoglossy being instant, up to two Polyglot stacks and Umbral Soul

Imagine not maining BLM.

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None of the numbers in the media tour build are final. Yoshida already said this 100 times. Do you not remember when people were losing their shit over Flamethrower during Stormbloods media tour?

The icons are shopped but the effects are very much real.

Meet me at the starbucks in central street. You'll know it's me.

I just woke up, where can I see all the changes?

gamerescape.com/2019/05/29/final-fantasy-xiv-shadowbringers-hands-on-with-bard/

Except for the joke balance picture on everything, it's real.

shut the fuck up nigger

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>Fear that MNK is due for it's share of shitty changes and skill additions after going 2 expansions without any
>tfw these are the best MNK changes and skill additions to date

THREE(3) EXPACS OF NOTHING BUT GOOD SHIT

HAT TRICK BABY WOOO

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I will destroy you

Oh I forgot, there's a new spell called "Play" which is separate from draw, draw begins recharging as soon as you cast it, in other words every card you draw is automatically spread. So that's probably why spread is gone.
As for RR it just doesn't work in the new system.

I play WHM and SCH and I don't really mind the loss of dps kit. When did I start?

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The DRK Shadow's attacks are the same with consistent potency and the animations it uses are just flavor. Arthars just sussed it out on his stream.

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From the sounds of it you didn't actually like playing a healer, nor like SCH for it's job theme and pet. Go fuck yourself

Based

>Time Dilation

will trannies flock to BLM, bros?

FoW is 5% more damage and attack speed than FoF thanks to GL4

Ah well. Gonna enjoy what I can out of this ride before it breaks down at least.

DNC seems like it's too strong. literally a constant 5% damage increase on another player

I'm starting this expansion. Please insult me

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>None of the numbers in the media tour build are final
It's the mp cost that changes from II to III.

gamerescape.com/2019/05/29/final-fantasy-xiv-shadowbringers-media-tour-overview/

>Mr Happy
Just because someone mains MNK doesn't mean they play MNK.

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reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/bugahb/anyone_boycotting_this_expansion_put_your_money/

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people who enjoy the tornado kick rotation have brain problems.
>t. orangelet monk

>log on early for 3.4
>linkshells and fc chat are abuzz with activity
>they are all discussing what to wear on their date with Aymeric
>some are wearing nothing to make their intentions known
twas a good day, everyone is thirsty for this fucking chad elf

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>inner chaos is just inner beast but on fire

lmao

I mained Whm in 1.0 and killed Nael van Darnus, and switched to Sch in ARR. I haven't looked back.

No one is in the shed. And if someone tries to put jobs in there tell them to fuck off and go back to dilating.

DRK bros... the shed are calling tonight...

>/vg/ too slow
>post here!

Hueheuehuehuehuehuehueheuehueuuehuehuehueehue fucking TRannies

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CHNAGE SHOHA. PLEASE SAM IS ALMOST PERFECT JUST CHANGE THAT RETARDED SKILL.

thanks, its a little weird to wake up, come into the thread and everyone already be celebrating.

It definitely won't reach launch in its current state. Even without the super overpowered buffs their potencies are good.

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No, it doesn't. All they have for the party are defensive tools like Curing Waltz, the aoe damage reduction every ranged dps has and essentially aoe convalescence.

>starbucks
No thanks. If I wanted a gay hook up I'd just go on grindr.

That's a shame. I was hoping it'd mimic actions or do some other shit other than be a fancy damage CD.

Doesn't really say, it says it can drop but no mention of how long each song last and the tool tip doesn't say anything either.

Phoenix has an Party wide regen, turns Ruin III into a more potent Ruin IV, turns our Tri-Bind replacement 'Outburst' into an AoE Ruin IV and has less damage fall off for Revelation.

Phoenix Trance is flat out better than both Dreadwyrm and Summon Bahamut.

>Literally ARR rage of halone spam
Why Yoshida?

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The Queen's rush and auto attacks are actually weaponskills, so by the wording of wildfire it should affect it.

As someone who mained WHM in FFXI (but quit after Abyssea due to friends leaving for various mmos), I'm not as bothered about the healer changes.

Granted, I was happy as fuck that for once, I could actually survive soloing as a healer in a game or even do as much damage as I can for a change. But yeah, it doesn't bother me too much, but I understand why others are upset.

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I stopped playing almost two years ago and haven't been keeping up with this update. Can I get a quick rundown on monk other than GL4? Cuz thats the only thing that can get me back into the game. I was in the process of rolling sam but said fuck it, I don't think I even got it to lvl 60.

So why were people saying Bard is in the kek shed? Only thing I didn't get that I wanted was an aoe Venomous Bite

Yes, well, good for you. What I wanted was something better for WHM.

I thought FoW only adds the attack speed not the damage for GL4

this is how DRK identity looks like to me with the info we got from media tour.

HW Drk = Evasion, Speed, Magic, Resource, Tank.

SB Drk = Speed, Magic, Resource, Tank.

ShB Drk = Magic, Resource, Tank.

Losing the evasion in SB was no big deal because it really only affected dungeons so that's a whatever. But, I can't be the only one that liked the speed aspect of drk right? Getting rid of the speed boost from blood weapon seems a little odd, and then to just add War's Inner Release is just insult to injury. The only thing that can save drk unique speed feel is Sks, and we all know sks isn't going to come close to Crit, DH, or Det. Am I just crazy in thinking drk speed was an important part of their identity apart from the other tanks?

>t. Seething drk

>scourge is back in the game
>GNB got it
The poster boy curse is real

>skill blatantly mentions magical damage
>fights flinging magic left and right
>it took the nips to put these 2 together

mp cost, potency numbers, cooldown timers, all of that is subject to change he says.

>get to summon a Queen
>Wildfire now has manual detonation
I know goddamn well what I'm doing.

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I won't lie, the screen shake fucked me up.

Please go back.

Looks like they really want to keep this "one combo with lots of oGCD spam" design, except now we will burn MP with shadow spells instead of dark arts.
I just wish they actually tried to do rework power slash instead of just deleting it. I will miss that sweet darkness cannon.

FUCK TORNADO KICK OPENERS

>tfw TP no longer exists to gimp you now so going full SkS might be viable

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Another problem is that ogcd spam isn't even gone, it just changes name from Dat Arts to Edge of Darkness.

I get platinum numbers on monk and I use TK rotation.

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>playing on KB
oof

>WHM
Welp, into the shed once again I guess. They didn't address any of the reasons it's actually bad. I'm just gonna play SMN.

MCH balance discord is absolutely seething. So many people are upset that the class actually works now and their secret club doesn't mark them as elite gamers™ anymore.
Fox was practically crying on stream earlier because he couldn't line up Wildfire and Automaton with Trick. Called the class dead in the water and no one should play it but he's going to keep at it since he's the elite Machinist god.
It's fun watching an entire group of people attempt to keep gatekeeping a class through mental gymnastics thinly veiling an infinite amount of seethe.

I mean its not like you used the other combo 99% of the time anyway

I don't trust yoshi. It real just comes down it to.

It's not said anywhere that the 4th stack doesn't give the damage buff too so I don't see why it wouldn't.

all this gameplay news is great and everything but did they say anything about glamour plates or the glamour dresser

I'm tempted to join the Balance discord just to see the seething.

No one stopped you dpsing you shitter fuck. Uninstall.

I guess BRD has to stack CRIT > DHIT > SSPEED > DET now.

>never

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With the buff on Deep Meditation, crit is definitely better I think.

>AoE now extends Shifu and Jinpu
>ST version of Guren
>Iajutsus are faster to cast now
>Can save some kenki from Hissatsu with a big dick CD
>Shifu and Jinpu buffed
>Can now just UNGA BUNGA SPEED SKILL DIRECT HIT stack without worry
>that fucking Higanbana buff
>Meditation getting an offensive skill tied to it means phase changing only makes us stronger
>Kaeshi Setsugekka is literally a mini-LB

The suffering has paid off fantastically.

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Nothing on the dresser itself (like adding it to housing or whatever), but they're doubling the space inside and adding more plates.

congratulations.

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Everyone must play the same

EVERYONE MUST PLAY THE SAME

NO ONE MUST FEEL INADEQUATE

HEALERS DO NOT NEED TO DPS AND SHOULD NOT BE EXPECTED TO

SKILL? NO EVERYONE PLAY SAME, YOUR SKILL ENDS WHERE FEELINGS BEGIN

stay seething

>Fairy returns after dissipation ends

saves me the effort of having to resummon I guess

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>the braindamaged cretins who enjoying playing MCH in SB are mad the job isn't fucking wank anymore and that people will actually want to play it
good

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God damn enough with the tranny jokes already, someone's gonna die from laughter. Have a (you)

How the fuck are you not going to give WHM any utility?

Why are people bitching that Tanks have 1 combo now?
They literally all got AoE combos

Still not very good.

My nigga asking the real important questions.

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>We might be competing harder with SAM though
In single target yes, they are looking very strong. In AoE though, not at all. Not to say SAM AoE is bad because it's not, and the new double spender they got every minute has a version for the AoE spender which is great. But their builders are still at 100-160 potency while BLM is getting SPEED OF LIGHT ice phases which means a LOT more flares than before in the same time spam.

So for AoE it won't even be a competition.

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the main issue is is that if this thread were to be moved to /vg/ with its 700 posts every 2 hours, half of /vg/ would be ffxiv threads because slower threads would get knocked off, while the obsolete ffxiv threads would stay near the top

so yes, a fast paced thread like this needs to be on a fast paced board.

That is disappointing but honestly I was already expecting it.

>want to DPS
>play healer
How stupid are these people lol? If a healer is DPSing, that measn they're not healing and the other healer has to pick up the slack instead

Exactly where is it that I stated I didn't like DPSing? I played my role in FFXIV as intended, healing and dpsing because I was capable of doing so.

I'm just saying it probably doesn't bother me as much because I played FFXI as a healer main.

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>all ranged physical dps get their own version of the aoe damage reduction skill
>all tanks still have "rampart"
what the fuck

youtube.com/watch?v=pKxXmaJ-iJg

>that Dance of the Sugar-Plum Fairy leitmotif

Soken you madman.

Looks like not even you understand why WHM is considered bad.

Do SCH and SMN still level up together or did they separate them?

Just ask yoshi, he's a pro at missing the point.

For healing specific class, getting better healing isn't better? What would you have liked for Whm? Stoneskin?

stfu alphinaud. don't make me stuff your mouth hole with my sex pole

judging by the discussion threads on reddit per role, hardly anyone plays tank or melee dps. it's all healers and ranged dps like rdm.

Yeah, FoF is pretty much just for any situation where you couldn't have 4 stacks yet. You'll have GL4 all the time unless you want to tornado kick.

Did you rike oul new zones, gaijin?

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>AoE now extends Shifu and Jinpu

Don't lie to me user, my hopes couldn't have been answered.

I was going to play Gunbreaker this expac, but I might have to go back to Machinist. Im a sucker for robots and gadgets.

Also thank fuck Gauss Barrel is fucking dead.

>fujo opinions

>Standard finish is a 5% damage up for 60sec to self and dance partner
>Technical finish is a 5% damage up for 15sec for the whole party

What the fuck?
What's their CD?

It's not like you're missing a lot with 150 potency embraces.

Well that's good I guess. I was hoping they'd let us store dyeable AF armor in the armoire but fuck us I guess

>Ifrit is now your Single Target pet while Garuda is consolidated to AoEs
>Titan still for solo play as he's just weaker Ifrit but his Egi Assault 1 gives you a 20% HP shield.

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Glamour dresser limit is being doubled, plate number is being increased, they're working on making plates more accessible outside of sanctuarys.

>Seems more difficult than the current SMN.

NOPE

We START with DWT, It's on a 60 second cooldown.
As soon as DWT is over, we get enough stacks to instantly Summon Bahamut.
As soon as Bahamut is gone, we can instantly go into Phoenix Trance and Summon Phoenix.
As soon as Phoenix has gone, DWT will have come off Cool down and we can repeat the whole thing over again.

Aetherflow is tied to Energy Drain/Siphon. Is on a 30 second cool down. Bane is now FREE. Only Fester (single Target) and Painflare (AoE) costs stacks and neither are required for Dreadwym Trance anymore.

All our DoTs are now 30 seconds long, even in levelling dungeons. Both Trance's refresh Tri-disaster. So you will NEVER hard cast a DoT ever again.

The only "challenging" part of the rotation is that we'll have to fit Enkindle and both Egi Attacks into our DWT phases since the pets go away in Summon Bahamut/Phoenix Trance. Seeing as DWT no longer buffs spell/DoT potencies, that wont be a bad thing because we wont be required to Ruin Spam in DWT. Shadow Flare is gone too.

Summoner just got piss fucking easy.

>looks at new WHM
I guess they really are going with GEO