>game output has been consistently garbage for almost 20 years
>has been meme'd to oblivion and back
>has lost all respect and dignity
>new movie looks like utter shit and has been delayed
So this is the power of an abysmal franchise kept afloat through retarded boomer nostalgia... damn.
>I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW GREEN HILL ZONE AND CHEMICAL PLANT
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>All of that shit couldn't kill Sonic
>Meanwhile every other Sega franchise is basically dead
Don't come at the CHADhog
Nobody claps for Green Hill.
*Laughs in Sakura Wars, PSO2, Puyo Puyo*
>game output has been consistently garbage for almost 20 years
Yep, it's time to make SA3. Nothing else has worked for almost 20 years. Time to go back to greatness.
Literally WHO?!?
Boomers stopped caring about Sonic before the year 2000
They already tried that and ended up with the worst sonic game of all time.
...You did realize that Sega doesn't give a flying fuck about the west and is solely focused on Japan, effectively making SoJ the only relevant Sega branch right? RIGHT?
Forces was a boostshit game though.
And if you're talking about 06, realize that that game was gimped by poor management. And yet, it still has far more potential as a game than anything to come after it. A well managed SA3 will blow the fuck out of any recent sonic game.
>he thinks boomers are keeping the series alive
I'd love to be in the meeting where sentient beings decided this design was okay.
>well managed
Look, user. I know you just want what's best for Sonic, but you need to stop having such unrealistic expectations.
>post the Shadman edits
That's what everyone is expecting now.
>game output has been consistently garbage for almost 20 years
Wow, just off the bat with the bait
God forbid corps listen to feedback. You zoomers suck so much dick
Well it's not people that grew up with these.
don't care virgin. i'll play sonic adventure, 3&k and cd 2011 until god personally strikes me down.
Yea but youll never get a well managed sonic game. Thats the problem
>Elipses
Yikes! You have to go back!
Sonic was never good.
>Sonic will never return to the cheesy, action movie inspired stories from the adventure era that could sometimes even manage to tug at your heartstrings.
>Instead we'll get more slapstick humor without actual slapstick and sad attempts at being self aware while trying too hard to be cool to millenials.
I'd blame Colors but really Sonic stories truly started sucking with Heroes.
>sonic mania
I've heard the level design is a massive clusterfuck
Do you honestly fucking believe '06 would've been a good game if it had more time? Like fucking honestly?
The designs are atrocious. The story is the most retarded it has ever been in the entire series. It's still a clusterfuck of different bullshit like SA1 and SA2. "SA3" would not fly in this age. Not at all.
Same except Sonic 3 AIR, Mania and Unleashed
same except riders, transformed, and unleashed. 2d sonic is hot garbage. im convinced only reddit likes it
I played Transformed but the community eventually died on PC
xbox is the only one that has unleashed so thats me. people still play transformed on xbox sometimes. have you tried tsr?
> have you tried tsr?
not yet, i heard good things about it though, and 60 fps will probably be the reason i'll get it over CTR
ive been playing it. i thought it was lame at first but its actually really fun mechanic wise. the speed and difficulty really are present on expert mode like transformed. transformed is a special game but tsr is getting a lot of unnecessary hate. however, the online mode crashes or has network errors on xbox. my bro on switch said the same thing. and ive heard pc and ps4 lobbies are fucked up as well. this is like battlefield 4 launch tier broken and its the games biggest flaw. its definitely more fun than ctr but i doubt ctr will have a critical component broken
thanks i'll check it out and hopefully disconnections issues are sorted by then. Any favorite racer/vehicle so far?
I agree with this, it's a shame it's getting hate but I'm glad people have still been giving it a shot, it's still a pretty good game even though it's no Transformed
I know I wasn't asked but I myself love Sonic most and love all the neat car options in the game
well as you may know the characters are broken up into groups like heroes. speed, technique, power. the new tracks are more wide to allow for the team mechanics to function better. the old tracks are remade very nice and function as less wide maps with more drifting. like transformed, speed and boost are the most important stats. handling is almost useless, acceleration is useless because a team mate can pick you up if you get whacked.
my favorite characters are sonic, amy, blaze, big, vector, and omega. but ill play anyone except that faggot zavok.
>franchise is in such a shit state it has to be saved by its worshippers in their free time
>fan game is the first good game in the franchise in over 20 years
This is no the glowing praise that you think it is.
That's a pretty based lineup. I think the only one in the game I haven't played yet is Zavok as well
>classic era is unfun platforming
>dreamcast era had utter shit writing
>modern era is boostshit and bombs
yep. sonic is dead.
only fans left are the furries who'd line up for miles to suck his rigor mortis dick
based and redpilled my good xir. ive played everyone once but zavok. gave him a real gay looking car though. the technique characters sadly lack the strengths speed and power chars do. their raw stats can be improved with mods but their class abilities dont have much use
From what I've seen Zavok is even one of the best ones in the game, especially with mods, I'm assuming as some kind of joke
Sonic bashing is so predictable at this point that it's boring.
joke or not i dont care to find out. out of place with the other sonic characters. boring design and character. from lost world. the real joke is that they keep bringing him back. fucking morio kishimoto.
Honestly I agree, but hopefully they add in some characters people actually wanted as DLC, I'd be shocked if they didn't considering the game is selling better than most people expected
its inevitable. the previous sumo racing games have had dlc. this game is budget as hell though so it will probably be the remaining sonic levels from transformed and one new team. maybe the babylons. maybe cream. maybe chaos 0. maybe infinite or classic sonic. i think thats within the realm of possiblity
Sonic should have never left the 90s
If they did give us the two remaining levels from Transformed and the two from the first, plus a couple extra teams to fill in the gaps left by the base roster that also came with some extra missions and paint kits/horns, I would be pretty satisfied. Charge $15 for it and include all that stuff and it would renew interest in the game post launch for sure
Maybe mix in some new stages as well, like have an entire zone that's space themed to justify having Galactic Parade and Egg Hangar and then a new stage alongside those, and then have Angel Island be a zone with Sanctuary Falls and two new stages, that would be neat
You don't want SA3. Not right now, anyway.
>repurposes the lost world engine like forces did, everything is clunky as shit
>levels are one minute long even without boost gameplay because said engine limits level size
>cutscenes are unbearably stiff, mainly standing around talking with little action like every game since colors when they stopped using mocap
>story is shit like forces was, can't even follow a basic plot and all the important parts are explained by a text box
>english script makes sonic, the main character, as insufferable as humanly possible with roger's delivery to top it off
I probably should've used this pic related to better demonstrate the last point. It's really weird too because every other character is relatively well-written in the English version of TSR.
Even Zavok of all people is entertaining in the English TSR
Yeah I noticed that too
>Blaze makes reference in some stages to her fear of heights and how she has fire powers
Love that but damn it why does Sonic get the short end of the stick
It's a little too gimmicky at some points, but overall great level design.
i like all of that stuff but thats really really optimistic. all stars racing is one of the best selling games of all time and they only gave it one dlc pack with just metal sonic and egg hangar. sega is also a lot stingier now after downsizing and shrinking. even the game they shill every chance they get (mania) got one measly dlc pack which was just recoloring the levels and adding two characters.
it wouldve reeeeeeally helped if each theme had one more level, for a total of 28 tracks. and seaside/final/casino could have gotten a new original level out of this that has more open level design for the team mechanics. i get its a budget release but it still feels anemic, even if whats there is good stuff.
>Sonic Mania
Cool, they can make a ROM hack with Genesis-tier graphics decent in 2017. How about a 3D Sonic game worth a damn?
>eye gap
automatic garbage
I agree with that, but oh well. You're probably right that it won't get much DLC if any, but they would be stupid not to at least try and squeeze in a bunch of extra stages. If the game had like 30+ stages and maybe 6 more characters it would last a good while and there wouldn't be a need for a new Sonic racing for years to come
dont forget this is sega. generations got no dlc but lost world did. boom got not one season of tv but two. not two tie in games but three. every level in unleashed got dlc but eggmanland. they are chaotic neutral and a total wild card.
Kinda wish they’d just bury modern sonic for good at this point. He’s become a parody of all the things wrong with the franchise nowadays. But it’s okay because it’s “meta” and “HILAAAAARRRRIOOOOOUUUSSS” when he makes a joke about one of the bad games he’s starred in
Man, at least try harder with this bait.
Though that won't stop me from agreeing that 3D Sonic needs a comeback badly
That's a good point, knowing them the most we could get is just harder versions of the stages we already have or something
Why do people think his design is the only issue? It's literally a non-issue next to just how terrible the rest of the movie appears to be.
Imagine if the budget for this elongated, cutscene went towards a new Sonic game.
>boomer nostalgia keeping it alive
no, the thing keeping it alive is pure, unadulterated autism
>>I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW GREEN HILL ZONE AND CHEMICAL PLANT
The irony here is that no Sonic fan wants these 2 zones back because they've been completely overused
>Consistently garbage for 20 years
That's completley incorrect. Even through the first Dark Age (Heroes to 06), there were still great games like the Advance series and Sonic Rush. And then we had good game after another from Colors to Transformed to Generations. Only from Lost World to Forces has Modern Sonic been consistently shit for more than half a decade.
The sonic movie being trash is par for the franchise. I expect to be shit and I'm hoping for some great memes.
WHERES MUH CHAO GARDEN?
Its not really a comeback if it never was good to begin with
Forces > Mania.
What will also be par for the franchise is the gaggle of cocksucking copeposters almost certainly already lining up to defend the movie. Expect lots of
>"i-i-it's not that bad you guys, you're just looking for things to nitpick"
>"Carrey t-t-totally saves the whole thing"
>(Russian novel length Twitter manifestos about how disgusting and entitled Sonic fans or gamers in general for ever saying "boo" to a shitty product)
Said no one ever.
How hard would it have been for them to make a cartoony animated movie with artstyle of early sonic instead of this garbage?