Fallout 4 is not as bad as people say. It's not good, but it could be worse

SHUT UP ONLY FALLOUT NV IS GOOD BECAUSE ITS MADE BY MY BOYS OBSIDIAN

It's alright. Shooting is great but I wish they kept weapon condition. They better keep it to where power armor requires a frame and fusion core in the sequels.

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I agree. It not a great game, but considering I got it for free I had fun playing it for quite a few hours.

>it could be worse
Yeah ,that's called fallout 76.

It hasn't really saved fo4

If 76 had a more solid story it would be easily better than 3, nv, and 4

It's like they took all of the complaints and went full circle with them. Previous issues seemed worse.

This, it's like some weird compulsion I have to try to make it work but the interface is so shit that I get mad and it brings down the entire story/shooting aspect of the game, which is already average and shit respectively, that I just uninstall it.

With the way Bethesda """RPGs""" have been evolving the next one might not even be an RPG anymore

That's also ignoring lore contradictions, massive bugs, shitty game support, lack of human NPCs to help with world building, microtransactions, even spongier enemies, and a massivr grind to get anywhere.

Far Harbor was good shit
Nuka World is a disappointment

I just mod FO4 to be "Power Armor Fantasy: The game" by removing fusion cores and bloat the enemy difficulty. It's much better than I thought

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I liked the jetpack and snipers

If it could be worse, why wasn' t it made better in the first place?

It could be Fallout 3, true.
id really helped Bugfesta with the gunplay in 4.

>lore contradictions
no one cares, Fallout 3, NV, and 4 all had contraditions.

>massive bugs
I played 76 from start to "endgame" and didn't run into bugs aside from server disconnects which was only an issue during the first few weeks

>shitty game support
Aside from server disconnects no clue what you're talking about

>lack of human NPCs
The game didn't need human NPCs. You're only saying this because you're one of those anime waifu faggots who jerk off to shit ingame. Humans are not needed.

>microtransactions
completely optional and still is

>spongier enemies
Literally the same as 3, NV, and 4

>massive grind to get anywhere
What are you talking about? The game is no more of a grind than the singleplayers when it comes to leveling and there's fast travel still

kys

Still a failure of an RPG though, Bethesda doesn't give a shit about the old fans

Your inane and illogical ramblings won't matter, the community mostly hates the game and is very open about it to bethesda.

Anyone has played the Valkyrie project mod? They revamped all the main campaign and factions storylines. because I haven't finished the vanilla fo4 campaign, I haven't tried yet.

nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/28085?tab=description

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It's from the same guys who did fusion city rising.

Fallout 76 is everything that Fallout 4 wanted to be. Think about it, the fucking NPCs in fallout 4 could’ve easily have been robots, they don’t really do anything. Fallout 76 is better than fallout 4.

No it isn't.

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Fallout 4 is terrible at writing and mainly weapon/armor design, but it also scratches that itch for an open world FPS RPG where I can just fuck around, make progress and not have to worry about fucking anything up. Then it's made even better with various mods. The kind of game you play when you're tired as fuck and don't want to plan or overly think to much about things or get frustrated because you missed that one thing.

Most veterans modders got sick after Creation Club

To be honest even the "good gunplay" meme isn't really true, it's just not as shit as FO3/NV.

That and FO4 restricted what modders can do much more than before.

This is actually a sonewhat decent ranking. But now that I think about it, I would consider any ranking that doesn't put 2 as the best ever and forever decent.

horrible game

Any way or mod where I can have my private army/militia. I just want MGS V base/army staff building/weapon and tech development autism in my FO4.

I haven't play Nukaworld, but I think it isn't what I want anyway...

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I liked Far Harbor until the shitty twist with the Captain being a Synth.
The Harbor people had zero reason to distrust the Synths who kept to themselves and did nothing but help them try to get red of the fog. The kill and replace thing was just for dramas sake, and the worst part is they worked my patience to the fucking limit with a shit minigame in order for me to find that out.
Its like carving a bat so that Bethesda can beat you with it.

Most modders left way before that with how limited they were with the Creation Kit, and the fact that the game doesn't have any replayability or is a good game overall made most of the modding scene go back to Skyrim or move on.

People like to consider Bethesda a "mod-friendly" developer but most of their games being so easy and open to mod was by accident rather than by design.

todd made morrowinds creation kit himself

Similar but good too:

nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/14946

youtube.com/watch?v=aozF1HyTnak

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Bethesdrone Fanbois, everyone.

Far Harbor was alright
everything else is shit, absolute shit

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The modding community is a meme that was only actually effective for Oblivion, Fallout 3 and New Vegas. Nothing after that was made truly great by mods, unlike those three games.

Great stuff there

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Fallout 3 was good and New Vegas was a bit better. Fallout 4 was like State of Decay. Constant doing and barely any exploring. Annoying as fuck.

>nothing after that made truly great mods
>leaving out Skyrim

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Ignoring F76, Fallout 4 is the worst Fallout game of them all, because it has massive structural problems that prevent people from modding the fuck out of it. One of the key elements is that your background is one of a parent.

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Skyrim only got extra content and visual changes from mods. Oblivion and in particular fallout 3 and nv had huge gameplay overhauls that changed the entire experience of the game

I really feel like Skyrim was the point where Bethesda removed so much from their games that mods couldn't really build much more in, in terms of gameplay

Nice mod, but not what I'm looking for. I like the settlement building, I just want a private army along.

it was objectively better than FO3 and NV.

>Skyrim only got extra content and visual changes from mods
Nigger, what? People even made completely new games on that shitty engine.

Shelter may be mobile trash, but it's well put together and polished to be beautiful. They didn't support it with huge updates, though, so it got boring fast

Fallout Shelter (or the more appropriate name: "Boring Shit") is boring and shit.