Alright, I'll admit it. It's not a bad game, just a bad GTA

Alright, I'll admit it. It's not a bad game, just a bad GTA.

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that doesn't even make sense
how is it a bad GTA game?

Complete downgrade from GTA:SA

More of a sidegrade to GTA4: Not an upgrade, not a downgrade, just a sidestep

Not OP but:
It moves away from what GTA was originally loved for, and that's whacky broken crime spree misadventures. GTAV is far too structured, far too much emphasis on a curated online experience and not enough emphasis on just having a sandbox city to have fun in.
You cheat in the game and get reprimanded for it. You join a server and fuck around and people yell at you for it. It's not a bad game by itself, it's just not in the carefree spirit of GTA. It's kind of trying to be some kind of MOBA/MMO thing where players have profiles and accounts and join guilds and the endgame is to get more GTAmonies to buy more GTAcars. You can still play the game this way but the core design philosophy has moved away from that.

I just play Just Cause instead, it's become everything GTA has left behind and I think the world is a better place this way.

gta games are usually bad

Worst characters in any rockstar game
Shit tier police ai
Weapon sounds are ass
Weapon wheel is garbage and you cant get rid of shitty guns once you unlock the good ones
No shoulder swapping
Cant change personal vehicles
Horrible clothing/hair options
Story is alright but has a lot of boring segments and missions are still too railroaded
No single player dlc

There are a lot of cool vehicles and it is an impressive engine, but thats about it

GTA 4 was FUCKING TRASH, all it had was good side characters. Everything else was complete garbage especially the main characters.
Didn't even want to finish it when it came out and had to play it in spurts.

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It's a decent game.

>Didn't even want to finish it when it came out and had to play it in spurts.
FUCKING THIS, i still haven't finished that game. Aesthetically it's pretty neat and I can appreciate ragdoll physics but damn is it a chore to play through

Most of the shit you complained about could be said about 3 and VC, even IV are those shit too...?

GTAV story never felt like you finished doing the tutorial missions of the game as it kept adding new mechanics that would be used once and had no application anywhere else and also no benefit over being a cutscene.

The game fucks with you intentionally, yes, but nothing that can't be avoided by playing attention

>and the game will simply laugh and spawn a cop in front of you to reset the circle
you're talking about gta IV
there is no cops circle in gta V

It works differently in 4. All you have to do is simply get out of the circle and you win. In 5, the cops can easily reset the circle on a whim.

GTAO is the embodiment of power creep and P2W.
Heists are meaningless when everybody is in bulletproof flying cars.
Also good luck completing any mission because somebody quit halfway in and it immediately game overs so you have to spend half an hour trying to find other people to do it.
Will say cunning stunts is pretty cool and wish it was a separate game that I could play.

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That mission in GTAO with the low riders is pure suffering as you can just have cops randomly spawn in front of you. Not only that but you also have to rely on somebody else being actually competent.

Just fix the psychic omniscient police and the game would be far better for it

>It moves away from what GTA was originally loved for
>all your criticisms are about the online
okay retarded zoomer

it's actually the opposite. The only reason you can think GTA5 is a sidegrade from 4 is if you haven't played either or you're a retarded underage pretending to be a boomer. GTA4 got universally shat on for being a downgrade from GTASA, GTA5 brought a lot of GTASA stuff back.

Clear sign you haven't played the game, I play solo most of the time, and it's more common to find people that know what to do and finish the heist as fast as possible using the same strategy, they feel like bots, than finding people that play like humans, making silly mistakes. And pay to win? Really? You can buy all the OP vehicles and still get destroyed by a guy with a machine gun, can't count how many times I've forced whales/modders to quit because they thought buying the OPpressor MKII would give them free skill.

And before you bring grinding to the topic, it's not like WoW or Minecraft where you have to look for materials, you can pick from a wide range of missions and finish them fast depending on your skill. I haven't spent a single cent and I own everything, which I got naturally by just playing the game.

I have played the game though. You even admit that there's OP shit in the game that is considered the norm. The strategy is exactly what I mentioned with bulletproof cars as in most missions people will rarely leave their car if they can.

>he literally cannot look at the minimap to avoid cops
Wow you must be retarded

I was watching the map and saw it literally spawn within range of me.
Nice reading comprehension about what I was talking about too.

That's why you don't play with randoms if you want to use a different strategy, being able to cheese the heists/missions doesn't mean you can't use a different strategy. For instance, you can launch headhunter and end the targets in less than 2 minutes with an MKII, or you can call a Lazer and train your divebombing, or just steal a car and take your time. It's not the norm, it's what autistic people do in all games, take all the fun away by using the most boring strategy over and over again.

So power creep and P2W.

Where in my post do I state that? You haven't given any reason as to why it is p2w. You don't mean winning in PVE right? Because that would be the most retarded complain in a MULTIPLAYER game.

>shit that never happens
Just admit you're shit at vidya user

How is it retarded? People pay money to be able to insta win missions using broken vehicles.

But it does happen. Is it so hard to believe that it's not a perfect game and has design flaws?

You don't instawin missions, those vehicles blow up easily and aside from the armored Kuruma, NPCs can snipe you from a mile away with a pistol while you are moving. Also, most lobby missions don't allow most OP vehicles.

Unless things have changed since the last time I bothered to play that shit every mission was just kurumas.

Things have changed a lot, those missions are tame compared to the ones they added, some even force you to get off your car, probably for the reason you listed. Even freeroam is a whole new game.