What story-driven games DON'T have moral choices?

Reminder

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cringe

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2 reasons:
>the entire premise is silly and contrived enough that it’s comical on itself
>someone made a good exploitable template that allows for quick and fun edits

>a game where everyone is awful
agreed

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all the edits emphasizing "pulling the lever is murder" dilemma are pretty good.
You could be Batman and declare that you will not be an executioner, so you let go of the lever, but at the same time, society could burden you with the moral duty of acting to save lives whenever possible
I think the duty argument should be lifted if the burden is too great and involves killing at least one human, what do you lads think?

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I take the dissociation point of view and ask: "what would happen if I didn't exist" and act in that way.

if a story doesn't have choices, its boring
so why would you want your story driven game to be boring?

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If that were true, all of the best novels would be CYOAs.

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>solving world hunger
yeah just let them die before they kill us all

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I dont think he means player choice but character choice, so characters within the narrative deciding things based upon their personality.
E.g Joel's decision at the end of The Last of Us

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Pull the lever but open the barn doors so it goes straight through

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I fire both the cannons on both ships. Nothing says I can't or that bad things happen if I fire the wrong cannon first.

Its an incredibly simple concept which was taught at every single western university ever to any politics student ever

So it just caught on, like those S's you used to drawn in college using only straight lines.

I don't pull the lever because if I'm in the switch room of a railway network and I pull a switch to change something I'm probably going to face some kind of repercussions for pulling that switch no matter if people die or not
Also the argument could be made that if I was not there then those 5 would have died anyways so by me pulling the switch I killed someone but doing nothing isn't killing anyone

I try to pull the lever at the right time, so either i derrail the trolley or multitrack drofting time
All or nothing

>don't pull the lever and also leave the last guy on the track to die of dehydration

VSauce tested the trolley problem in real life.
youtube.com/watch?v=1sl5KJ69qiA

Well they're all black so dont pull the lever

Check mate atheists

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God did make a perfect world. Then some cunt ruined it.

There is no god, we are a bunch of atoms that respond to their surroundings.

Consciousness is nothing more than signals and outputs.

Then why he didn't stop that cunt?
Or even better, why did he made that cunt?

>perfect world
>cunts
nah

Imagine if you create a world with only a single fucking rule and then some cunt ruins it. Would you even bother after that point?

I'd start from scratch again without making that cunt.

Needing to have any rules means your world is imperfect

>Start from scratch
Isn't that mass murder only to get rid of one guy?

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that's the premise of the exercise, congrats

posting the best one

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eroge

uh oh

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Immediately pulled with no second thought

pull as fast as I can

he did, it's we who pulled it back

I like a man who thinks outside the box. You're hired.

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I wouldn't pull it and then I'd probably die, but whatever.

Sacrifices have to be made

Every single person in the scenario would immediately pull the lever.

only an actual spiteful sociopath would pull the lever there. go see a doctor, dude.

My life is easily worth 2 other dude's lives. Maybe even 3.

>still having faith in humanity

hypocrite that you are, for you rely on the atoms to respond that they are atoms to their surroundings

what if they choose to be something else, what if they choose to be god
how can you claim they dont do that already

Is that supposed to be Sakura?

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think so, since it's basically HF in a nutshell

That's just their opinion. It's up to me to believe it or not

You don't need faith in humanity to have even less faith in yourself.

Have you SEEN what humanity has become the past 20 years?
I have no hope in humans, 99.99% of them are absolutely awful (myself included)

A loss of human life is a blessing, not a curse

>he made a perfect world except something that he made turned it not perfect
Then it wasn't perfect from the start you fucking moron.

>it's basically HF in a nutshell
I don't remember any dilemma.

She wasn't there from the start you double moron.

Because a perfect world would not be able to allow free will.

Pulling the lever is the correct answer here. You can work on a solution to the 100 people later. The 5 people are more pressing.

you gotta re-read it bro, the main conflict is basically pic related

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The economics of pulling the lever must be considered.
Its costs nothing or very little to pull the lever.
At a certain level of cost the burden of duty should be lifted, but i couldnt tell you when that particular point has been reached.

Depends on where. People in first world countries have worth but we could do without a couple billion people in 3rd world shitholes. Even mother nature is trying to get rid of them with diseases but we keep making it worse by pouring resources into those places and their populations are spilling out into first world countries. Stop stroking our egos and curb our population.
"In 2013, [David] Attenborough said if humans did not control population, the natural world would"

The bill is unrelated to "the situation" of their deaths, so pulling the lever is meaningless to that situation and doesn't involve you.

And who made her?
It's his own fault and blames us for something we didn't even ask