Hey Flynn! We're still going to Starbuck later, right?

Its much more likely we get news at TGS gamer

So a bad game.

Fuck living a lie.

SMTIVA had better gamplay though.

Huff.. Huff.. HNNNNNNGH SPACE LARRY GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG

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It honestly kind of surprises me how Isamu at no point throughout the game brings up this point when its the most valid thing that could ever be said

All the Reasons are shit.
I'm usually a Neutralfag but Demifiend's """friends""" are absolute scumbags, them all getting revived is not a good end. TDE all the way.

I guess? I liked it. I rate it a 8/10.

Amon looks so dope, too bad you have to go through one of the shitty endings first to unlock him

No actual person beside you would be affected by your own personal world. For some people this is fine but for others they would want their reaspn to apply to all people.

TDE, as fun and cool the path is, invalidates all of Nocturne.

How do you know the world you're living in right now isn't a lie?

Exactly, also meanies in jap stuff are often faggots since the Japanese have figured out that gay people are either comic relief or evil.

Its a safe assumption user. Okams razor blah blah blah etc etc etc. I doubt some demifiend eons ago chose Musubi

It invalidates YHVH's shitty plan And That's A Good Thing™.

Just create new people. Sure they may be soulless but once you wipe your memory, you won't know the difference.

I hope my man is in SMTV.

That's the entire point, though. It invalidates creating a new world to continue YHVH's cycle. Instead you destroy the cycle, and rebel.

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>Not being a lawCHAD
enjoy rotting in hell

Of all 7 billion people on the planet, at least one would oppose doing such a thing.

Flynn...you didn't reply back to my text message. If you don't bring me to Starbucks right this instant I'll RAPE YOU

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Even lawfags often realize how shit *record scratch* is.

Even if your band of faggots was annyoing the rest was pretty great, with major holy shit moments and improved gameplay and qol on all sides and corners.

I play Persona 5 for the visual novel elements, i only want to feel good with my virtual friends in a comfortable atmosphere. Shin Megami Tensei, and Persona 1-2 are unappealing to me as they're too hardcore with the RPG dungeon crawling plus my beloved waifu Futaba only exist within the Persona Universe. You're free to enjoy SMT but i think i'll stick with Persona.

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What are you talking about user?

Nice copy pasta, Futabafriend

it astounds me how some people don't recognize this

More power to you bud, have a nice day.

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VISUALS NOVELS IS SHIT

>Implying there's anything wrong with getting raped by Hikaru

EAT THIS
FREIKUGAL

Musubi is great, but who the fuck wants to be a lawcuck?

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I dislike this alot desu. It was perfect in SMT II but I feel as if its a bit, contrived in SJR. Then again I think in Chaos+ you fight mem aleph so its all good? idk. I wish YHVH wast a supreme dick like in DeSu OC where he is cool if you go the other routes as long as you arent a bitch and go to Yuzus or chaos with Noaya.

>Actually being a literal fucking tool.

I mean go be a christfag somewhere else if you so desire but in the SMT games you are a dumb faggot for being one, as the games bluntly hammer home time and time again with "god" being a piece of shit.
Same with chaos.

ONE

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The White were right

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Would you want a game where "record scratch" actually cares about humans? And he "promises" to give some sort of free will as long as he has total surveillance over humanity.

>Chaosfaglickingademonsboot.jpg
>atleast its not *record scratch' boot!

Someone post Chiaki, it's Chaos hours boys
Get the fuck in here

VISUALS NOVELS A SHIT
I'LL BE HERE FIGHTING ANGELS IN THE NAME OF CHAOS WHILE YOU CLING TO CHIE

based and whitepilled

But Freedom is better than TDE.

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>Retardhavingreadingcomprehension.jpg

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Alright

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oh wait, your a neutral fag. even worse. Yikes.

NOTHING

It makes complete sense in SJR. YHVH has always been ruthless and he's not really the main villain anyway

Don't look at her boyo, look into my eyes
She's not worth your time, friends are temporary
But only i can give you the power to become a god

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The Ring of Gaea did nothing wrong.

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What's your favorite der langrisser route and your SMT alignment?

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No...the alignmentfags came out. Please for fucks sakes I just want to talk about the games! Fuck fuck fuck I hate this dumb shit community.

Is the Ring of Gaea in IV worshipping Mem Aleph?

Any SMT game where I can fuck demons so hard that the neighbors know my name

Well actually I dont think Shikeah or whatever is supposed to be YHVH. Is't he still shattered and you still have to merged him together in that NG+ quest? What the fuck was she anyways? A merger of the three wise men who are supposed to be Micheal, Raphael and Uriel right?

It's all in good fun user relax

Adding on to this, it would be actually be interesting to see two alignment leaders who care about humanity and you're more tuned to actually pick between alignments and not go Neutral like every single fucking game.

Oh wait, you are a brainlet that thinks neutral is some sort of fence-sitting and not btfoing both sides of mythological parasitic digimon.

yes these arguments are pointless as we all know NEUTRAL is the way to go!

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That was basically Nocturne.
The Reasons were essentially controlled chaos, YHVH allowed a handful of humans to shape the world within the confines of his contest. If you don't fulfill the requirements for TDE or Neutral and kill off every Reason then you get the Demon ending, where the disco ball just tells you to fuck off and you don't even get to fight him.

He only did it two things

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Yes.

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neutral more like jewtral

based and humanitypilled

Hopefully Nintendo gives us at least a new trailer then later Atlus can make their shitty extended announcement streams like they always fucking do.

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>That was basically Nocturne.
Wot. The Great Will wants all of humanity to die in Nocturne.

She's implied to be a merger of the 3 yes. Can't tell if it's part of the design or not but she always looked like she was still missing an extra piece because of the hole in the face

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Yes, you can see her statue in the game. There's lots of SJ references in IV. Though I don't think it has direct continuity since the history of events don't quite line up, it might be a parallel dimension.

I'm talking about an active role like how Lucifer was. Someone who points out that people need to be controlled and "healed" to be saved. While at the same time, the chaos rep showing that rebelling will make you stronger to fight against corruption and how free will makes people actually alive.

Name a better alignment rep.

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I see you have made it to the top of the Tower of Kagatsuchi, present to me your reason Yea Forums

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no, I want demons to stick to their personalities from the myths

>No actual person beside you would be affected by your own personal world
With Musubi, every person with have their own personal world.

A reason where people are given the resources they need and they're left to their own devices. No forced order unless a consensus is made. Crimes are allowed but only against other criminals. The weak are protected.

Did someone say Chaos?

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If I've never played an SMT game before is IV a good one to start with?

Makes sense to me. Their missing gabriel. Idk how the 3 of them makes thay but add in gabriel, you get merkabah who is alot weaker.

Yes. Its silly lucifer gets to be cool but not the yellow baldy. Only desu one is he cool.

Did you at least try to search up online the best SMT to start of with?

HOYGANG

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Its one of the best onee

IV or Nocturne are the best places to start.

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u wot m8
The disco ball explicitly wants humanity to give him a Reason to reshape the world with. By giving humanity a choice, he sidesteps the whole alignment problem while ultimately keeping things in his control. He doesn't want to destroy humanity, just reset it, like pretty much every time.

I would say yes but Naraku can be a bitch. The difficulty curve in IV is pretty awkward.

Yeah, it catches the alien vibe of the games quite well without being too strange, shows you the ropes of the series and it isn't as cryptic as the older ones.
From there you can go deeper or play more of the same with IVA.

Welcome to the world of Shin Megami Tensei

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IN MY POINT OF VIEW, THE SAMURAI ARE EVIL

ONLY TRUE CHADS IN THIS GANG

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That is not okay. What if some people are happy in their own personal world? How will I go over there and ruin their day if I'm stuck in my own world.

Bro the Conception is not a good thing. The concept of Death and Rebirth is killing billions of people and having one choose what world they want just so the cycle can continue. That's in a span of millions of universes. That's fucking evil as shit

That wasn't the real Great Will. You are thinking of fake god.

Oh wait, it's actually a reference

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Go make some people and shit up your own people's world. You wouldn't know if you wiped your memory.

Was she really evil?

Nocturne is dumb and only talks about the Great Will, they never mention YHVH and Kagutsuchi is aspect of the Great Will.

I refuse to wipe my memory and the fact that there might be happy people out there is unacceptable to me.

WIPE YOUR FUCKING MEMORY YOU DIP THEN MAKE YOURSELF A CHAD.

Musubi is literally the best fucking reason and you can't prove otherwise.

YHVH is also an aspect of the great will though. Kinda makes no sense considering the great will is the reason in multiple games that humanity doesn't completely die off.

Let's get this thread rolling, lads.
>Who do you want as alignment reps in the future
>Reasons or alignments
>Which ideologies would you like to be explored
>Setting you'd like to see over Tokyo
GO

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I liked the normalfag happy friendship ending in IV:A, suck my dick, teenage edgelord niggers.

I'd enjoy it more if I could have a thrall onahole Nozomi.

She wasn't evil, she just wants what is best for humanity.

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*AHEM*

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Nocturne is the only game where they act like the Great Will is some physcial being that just hates humanity so he sends Kagutsuchi to watch over conceptions. Its dumb.

Gore would have been cool
If Nigga didn't die first (main character) like niggas usually do in every single piece of media. Also his voice actor is also fucking dead.

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4 is the only game where it isn't outright stated to be a dick but caring even though all of its avatars just want to wipe shit out because fuck it.

Wait so is the Great Will YHVH or a separate entity?

It's the worst reason for anyone that cares about other people. Sure, you can create a world of people and torture them however you want, but that doesn't change the fact that other worlds exist. Wiping your memory is just escapism, every human's purpose is to bring as much misery to the rest of humanity as possible and if you're only limited to your on-in-a-million world then you can't achieve that.

I hated two things about the friendship ending
>New Dagda
>Asahi revival
Getting your friends to shit talk "record scratch was fun."

So? You wouldn't know about the other worlds. Create the same set of people and you wouldn't know the difference.

>Who do you want as alignment reps in the future
Anyone that isn't YHVH or Lucifer.
>Reasons or alignments
Reasons, just flesh them out more.
>Which ideologies would you like to be explored
Whatever
>Setting you'd like to see over Tokyo
Israel

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YHVH is an extension of the great will or an avatar per se. It varies by game but it usually is a dick.

>Israel
How boring.

GW isn't really stated to malicious in MTII or SMT II. He just recreates YHVH as his avatar.

How so?

Where's a better place to discuss SMT? Yea Forums or
/vg/?

How many games do you know that even use Israel as a setting? Besides, it was originally supposed to be a setting for SMT I, or II.

>You wouldn't know
Except you do know. Why do you think anyone would erase their memories? You really think people would be happy deluding themselves in their own little bubble? No, they live to destroy.

Yes? That's the whole point.
>No they live to destroy
Oh you're just a edgelord, no wonder you won't listen to reason.

Sounds like you just don't know anything about people to me

The /vg/ threads are higher quality but you can watch fresh paint dry between posts on some days.

Yea Forums because Yea Forums tends to be faster

Wtf, why is Yukiko cute all of sudden?

Won't DROWNNN

WHERE IS IT ATLUS

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You can still destroy in the world of Musubi. Who the fuck cares about other people when you can just "create" other people. If you really don't like the fact they aren't "real" you can wipe your memory and live like a human being in the world you created.

>no more jew god or luci I'm tired of it!
>but set it in boring ass Israel
user...

Why are Persona boys all good boys? You can argue which waifu is shit, but can you really tell something bad about Persona male roster?
>youtube.com/watch?v=FQFkn4AXfqg

Don't be stupid she was always cute.

We'll get more news after P5 Royal releases west side. You heard it here first folks! See you in another year.

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What does the setting have to do with the alignment representatives penis

E3/TGS gamer 2% chance E3 60% TGS

It really sucks how Alex has only a couple pieces of fan art

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Great will is genderless. If he/she/it isn't malicious then explain his genocide happy avatars.

Well Asahi getting revived is kinda lame but I guess it's necessary for ull comfiness in that route.
Dagda getting replaced by conformist Dagda and everybody is fucking happy, is fucking brutal and scary though, what were they even thinking.

Considering how the Japanese gods are so overpowered despite being lower ranking irl since the games are based in Japan you ask this? Really kneegrow? Fuck it next SMT set in cartel territory in Mexico with Aztec gods.

Do you think that Demi and Hoy could be friends?

That's how it goes when you're a megaten girl not in Persona.

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Because Law takes order to the extreme.

>playing Nocturne for this first time
>1st encounter with Chiaki following the conception
>man this sucks I'm sad but I'm glad to see you
>encounter her later
>FUCK USELESS THINGS THE WEAK WILL BE ELIMINATED WORLD OF STR
I thought the male friend was gonna turn out to be the no chill one but apparently not

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downloading it right now, friends.

Nah, she was shit in her original game. She only became good in spinoffs.

I felt they should've added some bittersweet into there. Revive her but make her lose all her memories. That would've made the bonds route really fucking good to great for me. I love sappy shit like that.

I agree with Dagda. What the fuck was that? I'd rather they just change his mind through the power of friendship. It's just such an odd choice and negates the whole point of bonds. I guess if your "friend" doesn't agree with you, just kill and replace him.

Kay cool, but why can't impregnate say Angel or Moh Shuvuu?

I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THE MESSIANS WERE PLOTTING TO TAKE OVER

>Fuck it next SMT set in cartel territory in Mexico with Aztec gods
That sounds genuinely cool. Quetzalcoatl as the chaos rep would be cool.

You just gotta believe

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>who is alot weaker
Power levels are retarded in SMT, don't think too much about it.

Why is golden age of megamitensei games gone? Just look how many of them came out on ps2 and ds. Every year something new.
Now? All you can do is replay.

when did i give you permission to speak dog?

>He doesn't have a Demon Summoning App

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Virgin Maria was already in 2 games. It might work. Power struggle shit. Maria is neutral, Quetz is the new avatar of the great will and is Law and Chaos is eh The Maize God?

Ratto soon lads..

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>deletes only one universe

wow, its fucking nothing.

The jump in console gen seemed to fuck them over a little in terms of development time.

>you can treat her like shit
>she still loves you
The only person who changes her dialogue is the monkey before you kill her if you refused to help the hunters in the beginning. I wish we'd gotten a pissed off dog that you get to fight.

What the fuck are you talking about? Kagutsuchi just watches, Great Will doesn't try to kill anyone, Hikawa is the one who activated Conception. It's literally just a mechanism of reshaping the world, it has nothing to do with God being a dick.

I'm really tired of swimming

Nah, it's a good thing, if you can handle Naraku it allows you steamroll the rest of the game without throwing an epic difficulty spike that stops you from completing the game. It's the best game to start with.

>New Raidou game never
Comfiest Megaten setting ever

The golden age ended once they figured out their cashcow.

All the misery was necessary when we're deep in love

As an autist that has beaten most of these games I disagree. 4A is a better starting point than 4.

New spinoffs from SMTV's assets coming in the next ten years lads

No, it's bad because new player won't have any attachment to IV characters and will quickly lose interest once they figure out that this is a continuation from other game.

Can you even take on the armies of YHVH? You are but casual scum.

In that case there should be more Persona games. Where are they? Just look at the gap between 4 and 5.

I literally can't feel my face

PQ, PQ2, P3D, P4D, P5D, P4A, P4AU

>attachments
Not needed. Story is explained in the first 20 minutes.

Shoutout to the Gaean's

Are you also one of the autists that will just skip the first episodes in a series and then watches the cool action parts?

Even if it's not needed, most people drop the game once they figure out that there's a prequel. Guaranteed. It's not a good starting place.

Based Goreposter

I will give you PQ, but 2 was released after P5. And the rest of those games weren't really a persona game, especially arenas were directed at fgc fags.

>And the rest of those games weren't really a persona game,
Irrelevant.

I played 4 when it came out and it really doesn't need to be played to enjoy 4A.
Did you play the first Dungeon Traveler game?

Imagine being chaos Flynn. Imagine getting the king of demons, the father of lies itself, moaning on your dick. The proud sinner, the original traitor, the social darwinist, reduced to little more than your bitch, a pitiful high school bimbo, pumping on your cock while you rule your new kingdom of freedom and corruption. Finally you cum deep inside her, sending him into a deep, intense orgasm. "BEHOLD, THE POWER OF CHAOOOOOOOS!" he screams in pleasure as you end it thus inside his decadent pussy, cementing your status as the new emperor of chaos.

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Play Soul Hackers!

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FUCKING MOOT

What was their problem with my boy Navarre?

I didn't want to tell you this in front of Asahi, but that outfit makes you look like a girl

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>can revive Navarre as your goddess in IVA massacre
>doesn't come back as a human again
Missed oportunity desu.

the characterization in Nocturne is one of their weakest parts.

What are you doing Nanashi?

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Dagda was right

>You will never have a magical mommy gf with abstract skin complexions.

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Japanese devs aren't as familiar with any city in Israel as they are with Tokyo.
Abrahamic religions are much more deep than Aztec and Japanese myths. They've literally been powered up by philosophers.

STOP FAPPING TO MY WIFE YOU FUCKING SINNER

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>playing IV
>first SMT game
>got do Shinjiku and did the corpse clearing quest
>main quest tells me to go to a bookstore
>when I try to enter they tell me I need a pass
>no clues where to go from here
Now I'm just wandering around the garden area hoping I find something.
God it's annoying how often my entire team gets wiped in a single turn.

My Godslayer can't possibly be this cute.

wondering around Tokyo would not be so bad if not for all the poison paths.

>get to fornax
>suddenly morax appears and gets a cool new form
>Oh shit I can get stronger forms of all the demon bosses.
>want to get Asura's new form, because he was my favorite of the 4.
>constantly get cockblocked by Jack's squad bullshit before I get to him
>finally get to Asura
>mfw he transforms

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>the monkey actually fucking shoots you if you hesitate
Honestly, I wish we could have killed her on the good route too for that one. Absolute cunt.

That's nozomi