I was watching the toco toco interview and got a bit sad when Itsuno started talking about his age and how he probably doesn't have many games left in him. DMC5 was made by a lot of the old guard at Capcom and they wanted it to serve as a final celebration for the last 30 years of action games. DMC5 feels like it's part of a gaming era that's almost dead by now. Franchises like God of War basically turned it a completely different genre , PlatinumGames and Team Ninja are both focusing more on Action RPG's now; and the sentiment largely seems to be "good riddance."
Maybe Itsuno has a DMC6 in him who knows. ARPGs aren't replacements for true Action games and will always be at a minimum a tier below them so someone will fill in the action game niche if Itsuno stops.
Caleb Robinson
Capcom has expressed that they're hopeful for the future of DMC.
Joseph Lewis
The level design is so dull and bland compared to previous DMC games or really most hack n slash games. So, I wouldn't say the detail and craftsmanship is that impressive. Gta 4 enviroments looked better than this and that was 2008
Colton Reyes
Itsuno has mentioned wanting to work on a DMC6. I think right now he's working on DD2, who knows if he'll feel the same way when he's done with that. Though Matt said on Twitter that even if Itsuno doesn't produce DMC6, he'll likely be involved in supervising it.
Oliver Kelly
They aren't supposed to be twins brothers?
Tyler Smith
They were retconned into being Fraternal Twins.
Juan Thompson
>Will we ever see another classic action game with the level of craftmanship and attention to detail as Devil May Cry 5? It came out MONTHS ago.
They are still, but they have different face models now so according to Itsuno the in-game canon explanation is that Vergil aged differently due to his time/experience in hell.
Leo Ortiz
I know epigenetics are a thing, but that's such a dumb explanation. They don't look like they ever looked alike. Even their family portrait they look different. He should've just said they're Fraternal and not Identical. It's not like it was ever stated in game they were identical twins.
They still look like they have slightly different features to me.
Blake Sanders
Twins can age very differently. I have great uncles (70+ years old) who barely look alike anymore despite being twins. Lifestyle and different experiences will make you change. Look at Dante and the quantity of unhealthy shit he ingests daily. No wonder Vergil looks younger.
Ryder Bennett
It's not about Vergil looking younger. They have completely different faces. You'd think that Dante would be wonder why Vergil looks different if that was the case. I mean if Vergil was once identical to Dante then he just has a completely new face. Dante seemed to have no issue recognizing him.
The reason they aren't identical twins anymore is merely technical.
Very detailed facial capture morphs a characters face. So Dante and Vergil can't look the same because Reuben Langdon and Dan Southworth don't look the same. This is how Dante looks with Vergil's face, it's still not right.
What wrong choice did Dante make to lose his lips?
Oliver Anderson
>attention to detail >siamese twins >don't look alike
Luke Thomas
Booze and blowjobs
Brody Howard
Jesus how horrifying
Brandon Long
They're so hot but Dante has NO lips, he's definitely the guy you give the succ but Vergil, Vergil's lips are so plump and juicy. His lips are just begging to give you the succ
Nicholas King
Nothing. Vergil gets lip injections.
Cameron Myers
WE
William Campbell
I will not stand for you slandering my husbando like that. He is a natural beauty.
but sperm is full of anti aging benifits and ingestion actually fights wrinkles, so if Dante guzzles down dicks and cum on the daily he should theoretically look just as if not younger than vergil
Jace Taylor
We wouldn't. They could literally just have copied their model and/or used the same mocap guy. Or just not mocap their faces and only their bodies, since they do faces separately in the first place.
Evan Collins
You'd be too busy playing the game and schliking to him there.
Easton Reed
We all know and saw retarded vergil, but what about V Vergil? Did someone try it yet?
Considering this the DMC thread, how are you supposed to fight hell judeccas, they just teleport out of your combos even when down
Caleb Thompson
Itsuno is 48 years old. At the Toco Toco interview he mentioned that he still hasn't hit his ultimate goal (I am assuming a DD2 game with a proper budget and development time). Best bet is that DD2 is his final game as a director and he'll supervise DMC 6 while it being directed by a new guy
William Murphy
I'm just putting it in my head canon that they're Fraternal. I don't care what Itsuno says. It will save my sanity.
Nathaniel Ward
>schliking yes, vergilfags are women this is totally correct
excuse me i a women need to go take care of women things, ill just be a minute
Joseph Morris
Wouldn't the problem be syncing the voiceactors with their facial movements?
Jaxon Anderson
You would think ever since the popularization of stylized action games since the 2000s the medium would have rich varying playstyles by now but no you just have games following GoW clone, QTE finishers or Souls. Every other style of action is left in the dust for being less modern, more freeform and no dodge button. It's sad
Jeremiah Taylor
I can multitask as long as I have at least one hand free.
No. They record the lines in studio and can edit the facial movements to match. The mocap was shot in Japanese.
Landon Foster
should i buy the skins bros? i really want dmc 6
Jackson Smith
Most of them are. That's why they get so triggered when you suggest Vergil is gay.
Jose Scott
maybe try not sucking? has that ever crossed your mind?
Liam Rodriguez
Then how come the Japanese dub is so badly synced? Are you sure the mocap wasn't all done by the English cast? Reuben and co posted some behind the scenes shots.
Jonathan Stewart
what skins? you mean the ex-costumes?
Mason Nguyen
but he is, not even sure why this is even still debated at this point
Josiah Garcia
No stupid. Just bug your friends to buy the game.
Cameron Kelly
5 wasnt even good lmao
Gabriel Sullivan
>suggest Yes, just like Vergil is trans right?
Mason Hill
They're autistic as fuck and just dubbed over the English dub. Not even joking. Some of the mocap was done by the English cast but a lot of it was recorded in Japanese.
>Dante and Verfil arent twins anymore Jesus 5 was bad, I literally only like Nero's combat more in this one. I literally cant say anything else good about it. Writting, story, retconning, Dante's combat, level design. It was worse them DmC
Chase Lewis
To be fair you can fuck a girl in your younger years and realize later you're a flaming homo.
That's lazy, but I do remember reuben mentioning that he didn't mocap as much this time around. Jyb,reuben and dan have a panel in orlando coming up if anyone wants to ask them about that.
Sebastian Rodriguez
5 was pretty shit desu
8/10
Hudson Martin
>mentioning reboot Shoo shoo
Dylan Nguyen
>le ebin contrarians have entered the thread
Landon Hughes
Itsuno wants to create something else. He wants to make an emotional experience apparently
Blake Cooper
You sound like you speak from experience. But characters from Japanese fiction are not usually that confused.
Ryder Gutierrez
I want Itsuno to fill my dark soul with light
Adam Gonzalez
gotta source
Kevin Mitchell
I refuse to believe they wouldn't announce anything at E3.
>463642263 what do you want from me faggot, a (you)? pathetic
>black hair donte bad fuckn sheep
Carson Long
No user, you don't look sexy, now quit posting pictures of yourself on an anonymous site and talk about DMC.
Brody Bennett
> It's not like it was ever stated in game they were identical twins. They had the exact same face in DMC3, when Vergil had his hair down he looked exactly like Dante, it's better than a statement that they are identical twins. Though 5 Vergil doesn't look half bad, people tried to give him Adam Cowie face and it doesn't work that well but I figure that the dev could have managed to do something better if they tried to use his face, remove the beard and tweak a few thing to make him look younger. Main problem with 5 Vergil is the hair that makes him look a bit weird initially, but I got used to it quickly
Jayden Gray
Oh it is you lmao. Ya need to hide yourself better.
Christian White
>DMC5 feels like it's part of a gaming era that's almost dead by now. >and the sentiment largely seems to be "good riddance."
I have a hard time believing this because I honest to god think action games are the pinnacle of video game design. Action games reward skill, gameplay knowledge, and time investment while being insanely spectacle. There's not a single game that wouldn't benefit if it's genre was switched to pure action.
Actually, yes it has. It's been repeatedly stated that they are identical twins. In the manga, in the art books and even in the Trinity of Fates DVD book.
That opening scene in DMC3 had that one shot after Vergil stabs Dante and the close up of their faces was set up so you didn't know which one you were looking at at that particular moment. Vergil's hair was made longer so that they'd have the same hair while it was down and they'd look the same. It's not some fan theory, it is a long established part of their character.
Josiah Stewart
They should just let itsuno make a game he actually wants to at this point because it’s clear his heart isn’t FULLY in the dmc franchise. He made this game to appease the fans but he’s stated already he wants to create an “emotional” experience. And he’s tried with 3 and 4, but 5 was just fan service . And dragons dogma wasn’t fully realized. The fans will look past this though because the vocal minority is as bad as jojo fans and just meme on le crazy action pizza time. Let the man work on what he wants to basically . He’s proven himself far capable by now
Jonathan Nguyen
>Will we ever see another classic action game with the level of craftmanship and attention to detail as Devil May Cry 5? Yes, it's called Bayonetta 3.
Isaiah Ortiz
>emotional experience Itsuno will make a movie game next.
But what I remember is he was talking about wanting a game that would make people cry like he did , when he was younger. I forgot specifically which game he said
Grayson Lee
Bayonetta 2 sucked, have no hopes for Bayonetta 3
It's undoubtedly going to get the Nintendo bonus and no tendies won't shut up about it.
Eli Morgan
What makes you think that twins always looks alike? What makes you think that the only type of twins is the identical ones?
why is the anti aliasing in this game so awful? you're forced to have TAA or FXAA, making the game look blurry as fuck also whats up with the variable shit?
Samuel Gomez
that was his goal for DMC5 i believe, whether he succeeded? i dunno. depends on your/itsuno's definition of emotional
Isaiah Perry
You suck
Adrian Young
Bayonetta 2 was not as good as the first one, dosen't mean it sucked.
William Wilson
Just because it could be emotional doesn’t mean the gameplay will be neglected by the way.
what is the difference between nero and donte, they're literally the same
Evan Rodriguez
i didnt imply that i was just wondering if this was true
Aaron Garcia
Definitely not. But at this point devil may cry was in fact just a love letter to the community and itsunos “duty” in a sense to make. Not saying he doesn’t have love for the series he obviously does. But it isn’t the emotional “homerun” he plans to retire on for sure. I’m thinking dragons dogma 2 may be it, or a new ip completely. As I said here-
Christopher Allen
I think from an interview in September that he did, he mentioned that he wanted to make fans cry and we were all speculating if someone was gonna die. I think that's where you're remebering the emotional quote from.
Josiah Martinez
It doesn't matter if his heart was in it all the way, it'd all turn out the same, just a reaction of what fans want. They'd change nothing of real substance and it's going to be just as shallow as an 'emotional' story can be with that shallow, fan service, attitude they've take up. Sometimes you'll do better work by giving the fans what they don't want rather than what they constantly do. I'm not saying go full DmC but bringing Vergil back was what the fans wanted and it just cheapened him as a character.
Bayonetta won't have the money to be as detailed as DMC5. Bayonetta will have to do what it's always done and rather than impress with graphical fidelity, gameplay will have to be king.
It's almost as if Donte was based more of off Nero and that was one of the many complaints people had about the reboot. They even have him hold an actual fucking blue rose at one point.
Thomas Baker
So how's the PC port of DMC5? Somehow I'm starting to believe the DmC 2 rumours more and more
I think if you looked at 3s story, and even 4 of devil may cry you could see it was itsunos way of trying to create and emotional story. In 5 he kindaaaaa tried? But in the end it was pure fanservice.. I think itsuno knows how to create actual dramatic works when he wants to do it wasn’t just a fluke, dmc 5 was just meant to be that way for the fan bases sake. Dd 2 may be different though story wise if he’s given full control. I’m hoping he is the man deserves it
Gabriel Reed
4 was better 3 was way better change my mind
Bentley Price
What was wrong with bringing vergil back? Now he can actually be a part of the main cast and probably,most likely not, be playable in the main game.
Jaxson Morris
Hopefully never, it will just be a waste of time that becomes a pretentious drama and the entire product would have "Kojima" written so many times over it you'd think he took lessons from Vergil on how to point out something is yours.
>actually thinking DmC 2 will ever happen Not sure if crazy or delusional
Bentley Clark
action games as we know them could absolutely die out. even platinum games just do their thing like they do it because of the heavy capcom roots. no other companies seem to care.
Jayden Mitchell
You don't need to insult me. Stop being mad.
Bentley Phillips
Any Drawfags on? I have a wholesome request.
Connor Edwards
It's the same reason it's wrong to bring every comic book character who's ever died back. It's cheap and it makes death trivial. Oh, no, he died. I'm sad. Fucking why? He'll be back before you know it. youtube.com/watch?v=wn5K9S3kNo4
Easton Flores
>switch enjoy your 15 fps 720p action game
Tyler Miller
How can you like 4 more than 5?
Easton Taylor
DMC5 ripped too much elements from DmC and now it doesn't feel like a traditional DMC game anymore. Mechanically it's the best in the series but the tone is way off in both the setting and characters.
I told you guys. Vergilfags are are actually all women. They get really mad if you break their fantasy.
Andrew Young
That tells me nothing seeing how they are completely different games by different teams, the DMC4 part of known for being one of the best port ever where even a toaster could run the game on the highest setting. How is DMC5 compared to that? It probably won't, but Capcom sure seems willing to talk about something that will never happen.
Brody Watson
Vergil never died bruh and he was always gonna come back look at concept art for 4.
Christian Walker
DMC V is fine the problem is its just too easy blood palace also sucks and the only enemy thats actually hard to beat are the Furys and they ruin the freedom of the game
Gabriel Ramirez
I agree it was more reaction to the hungry dmc fan base. But it’s ok in the end to me even though they’ve chosen gameplay > story because it’s still the best in the series. I just wish Dante had a few more weapons. Maybe dmc 6 will be more significant towards major characters if it’s ever made. Now that we have more fans of the series? Someone may actually die off or something now would be the perfect time with such peak interest and Vergil back. I could see why they’d go full fanservive after so much suffering from the fans with this long wait and reboot shit. Absolutely not. Not after all the effort to make such a happy ending
Gavin Bell
definitely not DMC4 tier, but im gonna say if you have a pretty meh tier PC you could pull it off on low-med settings and still have the game look fucking good.
also how does that tell you nothing? its the same engine so if you could run RE2 okay you can run DMC5 pretty fuckin good
Ethan Nguyen
You gonna cry user?
Charles Morris
When did this bayonetta and dmc rivalry start I remember a while back it was almost expected that if you were a fan of one you were, or would probably be, a fan of the other. Bayonetta is great fun and im looking forward to bayonetta 3. I'm also praying for a vergil expansion for DMC5
Ryan Thomas
because Platinum fags got cocky and gloated that Platinum made better games than Itsuno
Samuel Lopez
a Kamiya-Itsuno-Yoko Taro collab action game when??
Kevin Rodriguez
>Vergil never died Since when does exploding in mid air not count as dying?
Lucas White
1. Not a Vergilfag 2. Not a woman 3. Not gay
Go seethe somewhere else, faggot.
Carter Bailey
Consolewarrior shitters infect everything they touch.
Eli Collins
Same engine yes but different everything else, Mortal Kombat X and Life Is Strange has the same engine, so are you saying that because Life Is Strange is easy to run well then so is MKX?
what do you expect from Yea Forums, the most contrarian video game forum to exist?
Ian Martinez
Since Nintendofags gloated about Bayo 2 and claiming it Nintendo property while also being buttmad DMC isn't on their fisher price toy.
Colton Cruz
Since he also did that after the second Nelo Angelo fight? Just cos Nelo 3 added a screaming skull texture to the explosion doesn't mean he died.
Sebastian Long
kek
Grayson Reed
When it happened already in the game before that, and turned out to be just a way to get off the scene.
Zachary Gutierrez
i am because MKX is fucking easy to run besides what made the DMC4 port great is optimization, DMC5 is better well optimized than REmake 2 how fucking hard is that to understand
Juan Peterson
Vergil is proof that you can explode and live through it. No one ever said he died anyways.
James Gutierrez
>Will we ever see another classic action game with the level of craftmanship and attention to detail as Devil May Cry 5?
user, he meant new game, not one that was already made.
Kevin Morales
Who said it was really an explosion? Maybe he was just teleported back to the rape dungeon.
Jeremiah White
MKX is notorious for having a shit PC port >how fucking hard is that to understand Because I haven't played REm2, I haven't been in any threads about REm2. I can't use it as a point of reference because it means nothing to me, and as I keep saying they are different type of games.
Colton Jones
>jojo wifi >article is from fucking september, and one we've talked about in these threads before its as if you hadn't even tried
Jaxon Roberts
Stop shilling your clickbait channel.
Dominic Wood
Why did Itsuno blow the dev budget on the van and mission 2?
Gavin James
you literally sound so butthurt but go off
Landon Cook
>MKX is notorious for having a shit PC port maybe like 3 years ago
Ethan White
Itsuno has always wanted to make a vergil game and as the biggest vergilfag he got his wish.
Do you people even DMC1? He didn't explode the first two times, he turned to lightning and went up to the sky.
>No one ever said he died anyways. Nico did. And yes, it was said that he died there.
The fucking problem is that the cannon is more of a suggestion to Capcom than anything. Everytime a game comes out they change some of the established cannon for no reason. For more than a decade, 3,1, 4 and way the fuck to the very end was 2. Now, just for the fuck of it, it's 3, 1, 2, 4. Before all this bullshit you could've shown up anywhere and people knew that Vergil died in 1. Now? It was more of suggestion.
Ayden Gonzalez
>PREPARE TO DIE-- *hit* UUNF >IGNITE THE FLAME >slay all >AND YOU'RE SET FREE Pure kino as always
Count how many recent videos he made about vergil dlc lol. Whatever happened to that fag that pretended to be V's voice actor?
Gavin Russell
Never ever
Luke Bell
>POOOOWER >Ahhahahaha DMC in a nutshell desu
Colton Reyes
>2:02 That's beautiful
Logan Ramirez
Why did they bring back Real Impact when they knew it would completely overcentralize Dante's gameplay again?
Easton Green
why are you quoting me fgt?
Charles Rivera
This is as close to a vergil game we're ever going to get sadly.
Thomas King
>the problem is its just too easy And slow as fuck.
Lincoln Walker
oh you mean ReZoura aka "Itsuno's long lost son"? already forgotten him, JoJoWiFi, John Fleer, Blackbelt gaming have got to be the worst """Content""" """""creators""""""
Chase King
>and yes, it was said that he died there. I meant before 5, no one in any media ever mentioned he died iirc.
Jackson Moore
... Because I suspect that you agree with them..?
Michael James
>rides through JCE like it's nothing >"Nothin personnel bro"
I wasn't even quoting about the Vergil dies thing?
James Taylor
Lol that's the one. It's funny that fatbelt got mad about his videos being copyrighted, that retard deserved it.
Andrew Brown
Because Itsuno thinks that frame-timings are some insurmountable feat that needs gamebreaking rewards.
Leo Ward
did anyone make a vergil squilliam for the e3 collage coming up. I would if I could dtaw more than stick figures.
Aiden Ramirez
youtube.com/watch?v=t_0GycbLOPk It's cool but it's also just way too powerful. Why bother with long ass combos if you can do the same damage with just a single real impact in much less time? The move doesn't even take long to do so it's not like there's any risk vs reward involved either.
And the fact that Real Impact now needs Ignition actually just makes things worse because that just means that if you want to do good damage, you're locked into using Balrog for excessively long periods of time. And it doesn't actually balance the move anyway because it's not like you lose ignition after using it.
It's just not fun.
Jayden Davis
>Why bother with long ass combos if you can do the same damage with just a single real impact in much less time? Because it's boring as fuck? What form of retarded question is this
Gavin Morales
There wasn't even an explosion. He lit up like a Christmas Tree and disappears off camera.
Good job understanding the problem. DMC5 Dante just has the exact same problem as 4's again, where you have to choose between dealing good damage and actually having fun, because the damage values are just all over the place and zero thought went into them.
Levi Rogers
A new onimusha might happen. Ninja gaiden 4 as well.
Elijah Reyes
You can see he's forcing himself to be near these weebs.
Owen Harris
He chose to go. Nobody booked him. He knows what fans are like and still went.
>Eva goes through the trouble of making them each their favorite cake >Dante has always loved Strawberry and Vergil loves Chocolate >Dante decides he wants the chocolate one just to piss Vergil off
Not an excuse. And if that was the case, then BP wouldn't have timers and leaderboards.
Brandon Myers
Stop posting him, I can't take his cuteness.
Justin Rivera
While that's true, it does still get tedious that after all the styling, you usually still have to resort to Real Impact to actually kill something in a decent amount of time anyway, otherwise you're spending an eternity on every single encounter.
Thomas Gutierrez
Well if you compare Maxim and Karlo's instagram, Maxim is getting work outside of DMC.
Hudson Richardson
DMC is bland and boring, though. I hope we get a new Ninja Gaiden soon.
Dominic Wilson
Has krillin ever explained what happened to nelo angelo on his Twitter or anything?
Yeah, I know but I just wanyed to hear his original intentions.
Hudson Harris
Yeah, unlike Maxim he has aspirations outside of modeling. Maxim was a street cast who gets by on his looks. He has no other plans for his life. He should start thinking of some cause He's 31, that's 51 in model years. He's not going to be hot forever.
Jaxson Reyes
He and adam are adorable. I want my own cute bf.
Samuel Morris
Maxim wants to be a photographer. No model thinks they will do this forever.
It was a bad image to try it on so the score only counts for his pube face but this confirms to me that this shit just has the same "prominent features" for literally every image
>spend all resources on making the fight system the best it's ever been instead of spending time and budget on decorating tunnels between combat arenas trash design, burn them on a stake!
William Young
Funniest part is that the levels aren't even bad. Feels like people are seriously playing up the blandness of the levels and just parroting shit they hear
every face in DMC5 sucks & the gameplay graphics look even worse. the game looks like absolute trash already. it's gonna look disgraceful in a few more years due to the fact it has no art style.
Jackson Myers
That particular specie of butterfly seems to be more friendly, I had it land on me few times as well.
And here I thought you'd actually post something decent after spouting out your ass about normalmaps. Silly me for thinking you were anything more than a transient shitposter I guess
In 3 we had Vergil with his hair down to show us that he looked pretty much identical to Dante. Also, before the 1st fight Dante refers himself as the little brother.
Jackson Kelly
The "little brother" part doesn't prove they were twins, a better evidence, albeit from side material, would be the fact Enzo couldn't tell it wasn't Dante standing in front of him.
Daniel Martinez
Why not just have Reuben facecap for Vergil and have Dan do the voice acting?
Jordan Cooper
thanks for proving you dont know shit about videogame development
hey, but at least you feel smart lol
Matthew Morales
Still not biting, this is obvious bate lads. I probably shouldn't even give you fags the time of day to respond, but at least try harder, no one's falling for it.
Throwing a red tint over it doesn't change the fact it's just concrete and tree
Anthony Anderson
Just maroon-ish tunnels, very creative
Jeremiah Brooks
Honestly, user, it'll be fine. How far have you gotten in DMC3's Bloody Palace? You S rank DMC1's DMD? Or DMC4's Bloody Palace? DMC5? You S ranked MGR? Bayonetta? You're worrying about the zeitgeist of action games instead of just appreciating what is here. Pic related. Working my way up, got my Royal Guard to level 3.
>DMC needs to be a more open-world type game fuck off with this meme
Grayson James
Good thing that user was arguing about colour and not material then. Even within the areas that are made up purely of tree, colour palette varies more between levels than Temen Ni Gru does its own.
>DMC5 ripped too much elements from DmC such as? I only count >took the style announcers (can be turned off) >a few swear words, mainly with Nero and Nico and it fit their character The tone still feel much different from DMC, we don't have a CAPITALISM bad or anything on the level of the 360 no scope abortion
Jackson Wood
Wait for DD2.
Carson Jones
base dmc5 is faster than base dmc4, cumslurper.
Blake Bell
>tfw I keep on failing on bloody palace at Vergil as Dante V and Nero were much easier against him, Dante can easily steam roll most floor thanks to faust & Double Kalina Ann, even the Urizen boss rush is easy with Faust orbs shield. Even after training in Vergil I still has trouble once he uses his devil trigger
Parker Sanders
Post your DMD DMCV high score. Son of Sparda, maybe?
That it's just big organic levels of mush and rocks and, really nothing else. Just big blocks of, nothing. Not saying I don't like DMC 5, it's awesome combat wise and characters etc, but the level design is pretty ass.
Jack Jackson
Thats not how you show something off on Yea Forums
Carson Murphy
But could the same not be said for DMC3, which I've constantly seen people parrot as having better levels than 5 despite this not being the case 9 times out of 10?
DMC1 still holds the crown for best environments in the series but people claiming that DMC3's are better than 5's are fucking delusional
3 just felt like there was more personality in the levels than 5, could very well just be nostalgia but that's just how I feel. Also ye I agree, 1 has the best level design.
Landon Stewart
DMC3 has about 4 great level designs that stand out and make people forget about the 16~ other garbage temen negro halls.
Mission 8 will forever maintain the position of worst environment design in a non-DMC2 DMC game
One thing i can give dmc5's levels over 3 and 4 is that there is no backtracking. Also mission 9 was very aesthetically pleasing, taking the series back to its gothic roots
William Johnson
>Griffon and Shadow Nothing in 5 is as gray and boring as the gigapede arena
You're only at the gigapede bit for like a minute, also there's webs everywhere and you can see the moon through the columns
Brody Ramirez
The leviathan mission is basically just a more boring version of mission 8 in dmc5
Kayden Mitchell
yeah and you go back at the same place on Mission 16
Nicholas James
I get that, but even within that same mission you have areas like pic related and later the library and opera house where you fight Artemis. I won't say that there aren't dull areas in 5. No DMC game is free from having some dull levels, even DMC1. My issue lies with people overplaying it with 5 and saying that, on average, 5 has more dull environments than 3, which is a statement that I find utterly asinine.
The absolute height of DMC3's environments for me, the Hell environments during mission 18, are a clear standout and in my opinion higher than the absolute height of 5's environments. But they only last a single mission and while they are extremely good, they fail to make up for the far lower lows that 3's environments often sink to, whereas 5's lowest in my eyes, Mission 5 and Mission 9, don't sink that low and are fewer in number. It's a matter of averages in my perspective.
>Vergil DLC will impede Vergilfags from shitposting It's almost as if you don't know us. Autism flows through our veins.
Dominic Morris
>Autism flows through our veins. Vergil sure got around a lot...
Kayden Morgan
Nice imagine.
Joseph Flores
>He knows what fans are like Serious doubts.
Liam Hall
I can't understand how anyone can like the art direction of DmC5. I mean it looks good but the 3d models from dmc4 are peak form when it comes to how good looking all chars are. Dmc5 is just going too tryhard to look realistic.
Chase King
Oof
Aiden Murphy
>but the 3d models from dmc4 are peak form ayy lmao whatever you say 4utist
>he doesn't want to make Dante go shopping >he doesn't want to make Dante walk around the street with nothing but a pair of boxers
Carson Reed
Semen doesn't go in your veins, user.
Gavin Jones
No, it goes into vagina and makes babies, which then have his blood and autism flowing through their veins, with varying influence depending on the existence of a girlfriend.
>deleted ayy fuck off, that wasn't too spoilery >it's real holy fuck bros its habbening
Leo Walker
T-pose mocap and a semi squatting Dan.
Jaxson Hughes
While I don't wanna rain on anyone's parade and stop them from getting excited for DLC, the image from Reuben was just pre-release mocap footage of him, Dan and Johnny. It was likely deleted because Capcom hasn't actually given the go to release footage like that. If they did then Johnny would have uploaded all of it as he's said in a QnA
Andrew Lee
Desu if all you've got is the gigapede arena, maybe 1/128th of the game, and hte leviathan level, which is good, you are REALLY reaching to dislike DMC3.
Josiah Cook
No harm done user wouldn't be the first time that the people who play these games have waited for a miracle to happen.
Blake Gonzalez
>barely 20 enemies >a dozen bosses >20 missions, and you can't even play any missions with any characters >V only gets like 6 missions >Nero (the protag) gets like 9 >no playable Vergil
DMC5 isn't a bad game by any means, but it is one that is clearly lacking in content. They spent way too much of their development period working on the photorealistic grafix. This game should have had 50 enemies, at least 15 missions per character and playable Vergil.
I think each character getting too few missions, and the torch being passed around too much, is what's the biggest problem here. Previous entries can't boast with great enemy variety either, yet felt more satisfying in the end. It should have been something like DMC2, with the entire story being played out from beginning to end with each character, just from their point of view.
The roster in 1 at least was more satisfying because each enemy had a complete moveset and provided its own challenge.
Of the 20 or so non-boss enemies in DMC5, we have enemies like the Green Empusa, the Qliphoth Roots and the Red Empusa which basically are just wasted spots on the roster. The Green Empusa is not a threat at all. The Qliphoth Roots just have one stab move. The Red Empusas just run away from you and are damage sponges.
David Smith
>v gets playable missions the only bad thing about this game
Seriously, what the fuck was Itsuno thinking with that character? I don't care about the shitty story, but the gameplay of V is just godawful. He can't possibly think that V on launch was in an acceptable state.
He feels so fucking clunky and underwhelming.
Asher Sanchez
Jerk your left analog stick back and forth and spam the Griffon and Shadow button: makes for good damage
Gavin Peterson
Itsuno wanted more Dragon Dogma elements in dmc
Aaron Bennett
>smooth gameplay constantly interrupted by jarring 30fps in-engine cutscenes
Ayden Russell
Git gud
Gavin Morris
V should have been an NPC then DMC5 would be 10/10
Colton Brooks
I felt the same way until I really just got into my edgy teenage side and now I find he's a joy to play. I still select Nero and Dante over him every time during the optional missions, but it's satisfying as fuck to set Nightmare and co. off on everyone and then edgily read some poetry to recover DT. Find your inner teenage angst, user.
Bentley Roberts
>git gud >the easiest character in the series >git gud
The best story in the world can't save DMC5's completely lazy and underwhelming DMD difficulty. Giving enemies 100 times more health and defense isn't difficulty. God Hand and Ninja Gaiden did higher difficulty right by boosting enemy aggression and moveset complexity while keeping health values pretty close to what they are on normal difficulty. Itsuno seems to not realize that DT in DMC1 wasn't designed as a main feature of the difficulty, but rather a way of punishing players who play poorly. A good DMC1 player should almost never have to fight a DT'd enemy.
Ayden Reyes
>dmc1 >lul Go back
Angel Howard
a V boss fight would be more interesting
Hudson Sanders
Telling someone they suck while they're asking for advice on how to suck less just makes you look like a giant faggot
Xavier Jenkins
Ninja Gaiden isn't about being stylish, nor is God Hand. They are secondary objectives. To make enemies more aggressive a la NG would require a complete revamp of the combat and the style meter.
Jacob Johnson
Is bloody palace multiplayer yet?
Sebastian Moore
The main issue I have besides him being boring to play is that they were already on a small budget. Imagine how much more shit the other's could have gotten if resources wasn't used on V? Dante could've had atleast more weapons. Even more work could have gone into breaker/bringer diversity. The fact that Nero has the exact same 2 DT ultimates from 4 and no new ones after getting a whole DT is completely unacceptable.
Isaac Allen
About 1's DMD, I still don't understand what exactly makes them go into DT. I know that if there's a timer and you don't kill all enemies on screen before it reaches zero then they all go in DT, otherwise it seems to be pretty random
Cameron Scott
Even for identical twins there's always a younger and older one user.
Hunter Jones
Hell, they could have put in more work to make bosses more interesting. Give them more moves, more phases and just more interesting things. DMC5's boss roster is just terrible.
Why is it that DMD Goliath, for example, is identical in patterns and moves as his SOS and DH difficulty versions?
Ian Cook
When you put it that way, yeah. Griffon and the tiger could've easily been devil arms. Not as they are, but taking their attacks and making weapons around them.
If we end up getting a DMC6 I really hope Nero gets a devil arm, because as much as I love the Red Queen (which is actually my favorite weapon in the series), it just feels weird and out of place to use it while in DT. In 4 I didn't mind because DT was just a spirit, but in 5 he does have a demon form
Jeremiah Russell
Maybe they wanted to mix things up a bit by not making more devil arms so that the characters feel more unique to play as. Allthough I do think that if they ever plan on doing any DLC or a SE that they will most likely plan on designing these Devil Arms and give them to Vergil so that he has more of a connection to V his playstyle so people can easily adapt to Vergils playstyle via those weapons.
Astral Chain is a pure action game and Bayonetta 3 will probably be the same. So long as we have Platinum they'll likely carry on in some form. Who knows, maybe the success of DMC 5 will prompt others to make more games in a similar vein?
Isaiah Wilson
How the fuck do I get rid of this? I can't finish Bloody Palace because of this annoying error. My graphics card is 1050ti and even though I lower my settings I still get this error.
and that's why I hope action games remain a niche genre
Liam Carter
I can run DMCV on 60 fps on high settings just fine with my 1050ti toaster, this shit only happens when I play Bloody Palace but finished Nero's BP level without encountering this error for some reason.
Adrian Bell
You running it on dx11? if so switch back to dx12. Also what driver are you using?
Aiden Stewart
Their lips are slightly different but that could just be artist error. They're identical in that image otherwise.
Blake Hill
Kek, I've 960m yet I only got one crash since my day one purchase.
Christopher Gutierrez
I do, too, user. But pretty much correct. Can you honestly say you wouldn't have preferred more man hours spent into level design, or devil arms?
Nathaniel White
But maybe, just maybe, it's not a question of gender but what is more accurate about the story ? I mean in absolute I have no problem with characters being gay. But what I don't like is to imply about their sexuality when there is nothing that shows this at some point in the story. Like, why would he be gay ? Knowing his personal story and the fact that it is proven that he did have a relationship with a women at some point ? Why would it make more sense for him to be gay? Because if that's the case for him, most characters in DMC are gay too.
Carson Carter
Eeehhh I think the level design is okay, even if its samefaggy, along with the devil arms. More missions would have been better imo.
Luis Johnson
I would've liked more winding levels like the opening city ones. Late game feels like Bloody Palace with connecting corridors packed with free orbs, which was really insulting desu.
Jordan Ward
>Day one purchase >Denuvo
Unironically neck yourself for being stupid enough to buy Denuvo shit when the game was literally cracked day 1 with the Denuvo free exe.
John Williams
>Denuvo Kek
Dominic Foster
Pirate, here. Does it not still have Denuvo? I'm holding out hope they can crack Bloody Palace.
Ian Ramirez
man I don't care if it will take another 4-5 years but I really hope we'll get a proper Vergil DLC with a unique campaign and maybe 5 more new enemies and 2 new bosses. I still do not believe Capcom will just completely throw away a playable Vergil extension pack.
Jordan King
Bloody Palace was already playable before the official release
Hunter Reyes
The crash only happens in Bloody Palace. >You running it on dx11? if so switch back to dx12 I did it before and the game won't even open.
Grayson Wood
Yes, but it's worthless because it doesn't save your progress, and it defaults to Human difficulty, and you can't change the difficulty. That's what I mean by holding out hope.
Evan Turner
4Vergil really is the worst. The only legit competition could be between 3 and 5.
Weird, I had constant crashes similar to yours on day 1 and I also have a 1050ti. Switching back to dx12 and using driver 399.24 fixed it for me and haven't experienced any crash since then, unless I run it with dx11. My bet is that it might be related to what driver you are using. This game seems to be quite a hassle for 1050ti users.
Elijah Phillips
I love Bayonetta et al. Is this game worth it for $60?
Ian Watson
You'd hate V's gameplay, so wait for a sale.
Gavin Phillips
>tfw i own a 750 and haven't got a single crash in my 90 hours of dmc5 sometimes i wonder if them newer graphics cards are made with the sole purpose of being replaced. your problem is quite common. a popular fix is either changing your dX back to 11 or running the exe as administrator. or both.
You guys do realise DMC 6 will happen right? 5 is the best selling game In the series and has breathed all new life in the series No idea why you think we won’t get another game like 5
It's easily worth 40 dollars considering Bloody Palace is now included.
Gabriel Young
Anyone else get this annoying glitch where Nero's human hand overlaps with his DT hand while you're in DT and have no Breakers?
Dominic Moore
>a popular fix is either changing your dX back to 11 I did but they just return to dx12 again after the game.
Charles Foster
And how exactly does BP add an extra $20?
Lincoln Cook
after I open*
Nathan Moore
>Not forced to play as V >Not forced to sit through loading screen after loading screen after loading screen >The hundreds of hours I'm getting from it
this right here is why i found it extremely retarded of them to bring back nero's grappling hook. it screams "this is a nero mission and you must play as nero and nero only" instead of "we carefully crafted this level to be enjoyed as any of our protagonists"
So it's worth 40 because BP lets you not play the actual mediocre game... Like I said, 20 dollar game.
David Richardson
Shut the fuck up and give me Agni and Ruda back, Itsuno. Give me Pandora's Box.
Christian White
Ehh you've got me there.
Jack Cox
Well it reached a damn peak right now and the question is now can the Team top DMC 5 it's combat system because if they try to improve it could it break the system itself or it could become so complicated that it breaks the players damn fingers when you try to play it like a combo wizard. I mean they could improve on the V experiment and make it more satisfying to play a summoner in 6 but they peaked with Dantes and Neros mechanics already. Im not saying they aren't good but damn that is gonna be hard to pull off in 6 and it also could suffer under the even numbered DMC curse.
Adam Turner
so far Dante has used: >Guns -Ebony and Ivory -Luce and Ombra -Shotgun -Coyote-A -Grenade Gun -Needle Gun -Submachine Guns -Missile Launcher -Kalina Ann/Kalina Ann II -Dual Kalina Ann -Artemis -Nightmare-β -Spiral -Pandora -Dr. Faust >Melee -Rebellion -Yamato -Sparda/Force Edge -Alastor -Devil Sword Dante -Ifrit -Beowulf -Gilgamesh -Balrog -Cerberus -King Cerberus -Agni and Rudra -Nevan -Lucifer -Cavaliere
Oliver Cooper
Imagine if Dante could use the Needlegun anywhere and not just underwater in 1, it would probably be busted
Parker Cook
>Ebony and Ivory >Kalina Anns >Pandora
>Rebellion >Balrog >King Cerberus >Agni and Rudra >Nevan >Cavaliere >Lucifer Fucking dream loadout. Make me happy, Itsuno or modders.
How can one person be a genius and a fucking retard at the same time? Bayo3 better not focus on cinematics
Logan Watson
HOW THE FUK
He has two of them, if the damn devil bringer glows when power or demons are near (like it did in 4) and if it had yamato in it when Vergil took it it should still be able to do the other shit. Especially since he still retains the yamato power despite it being taken away.
Samuel Peterson
>DMC1 still holds the crown for best environments Aren't you retarded.
Dominic Baker
ya gotta give love to Artemis and Spiral too
Hunter Wright
He should still be able to, all the "devil bringer" was, was the manifestation of his demonic/DT power. It was just his arm stuck in devil form. He was an inexperienced scrub in DMC4 who didn't know how to change his arm back, but by his arm being stuck in DT form it allowed him to access one of his spectral arms. Which in 5 he can control two of them independent of DT form or the movement of his arms (as he smacked Dante without budging his physical arms) almost like they work telekenetically now. If he still has the arms, he should still be able to absorb.
If you like Bayo could it be that you also like this game but only if you can change your focus from pinpoint dodging and qte button presses to absolutely styilng on your enemys with as many different combos that you can hammer into them as possible. And don't be fooled the combo system is deep as hell and will make you appreciate the work that has been put into it the only character that will confuse you will be V because you need to have a bigger focus because you are controlling 3 characters at once and need to manage them properly it's weird but you get used to it but you need to watch out because you could end up button mashing when you play him which is understandable. The enviroments aren't as interesting as bayo's but the game is still pretty thanks to the RE engine but do not expect to fight on top of a jet fighter or a highway on a driving car it's more static in that kind of way. The game has only 1 usable item left which means that usable healing items do not exist anymore only a continue option if you can swallow your pride and use it when you fuck up and it will become fairly difficult especially when you reach DMD ( which is the second difficulty you can unlock) where the enemys will not only gain more health but also more moves which also applys to the bosses. The game like many other capcom games lives on repeated playthroughs so if you are a one and done person will you miss out on this game because that will make it a fairly short game for these kind of people it's a good game but if you are unsure about shelling 60 bucks out for it do I recommend that you get it during a sale.
