Scripted chase sequences: The Game

Scripted chase sequences: The Game

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Kino Vidya storytelling

Those are my favourite missions in the series.
Union Drive and No.3 are absolute kino

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I can literally hear Gruppa Krovi playing on the radio.

Reminder that killing Derrick is the correct choice

and they're all great.

It's kino, its engine is incredible, but it's not ludo.

Francis is the one who threatens Niko and has more power, saving Derrick is more for Packie he likes him better.

TIMECODE STEP INSIDE THE ZONE

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>kill playboy
>kill francis
>kill dimitri

I like the updated radio more than the old one

San andreas: nostalgia the game

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I really like IV, but GTAO is way better.

>No more driving through rainy Liberty City listening to 1979
>No more intro with the iconic Schwiene
You just have shit taste.

This is the only gta where gunfights felt real and visceral. The driving in this game was also my favourite, I hate how they gutted the car destruction in V

It's also the only game other than GTA 3 where the crime felt grimy and atmospheric as fuck.

It also did the 3 protagonist storytelling better than GTA V. I loved how every single little plot from the diamonds to the heroin played a part in each of the characters' stories.

>get ps3
>pop in gta 4 with dlc included
>installing data to hard disk drive
>never loads past the "a" in installing

Oh what the fuck? I tried every solution and it doesn't fucking work.

GTA V is better.

user, don't say that. IV is kino. It can do no wrong!

The new radio is so fuckin trash

how come the blista was so good?

Grind.

Up yours, Vladdy boy

But Francis gives you money and can get the heat off you, while Derrick's not only useless, but drugging himself to death anyway. A bullet to the head seems less cruel than letting him deteriorate.

THANK YOU

Derrick isn't a saint. He's a cowardly junkie rat who not only ratted out his former freedom fighter friends back in Ireland, but also was going to ruin his brother's career by giving an interview to the press. Giving him a bullet to the brain is doing him and his family a favor.

I would love 3 protagonists again, but they need to do it like IV. So often you ended up being the villain in someone else's story. All that fucking dramatic irony, especially between Niko and Johnny. They got paired up so often and had no idea that they were ruining each other's lives.

Based Grimy user

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>Three interchangeable protagonists
>One can be a Claude-esque drifter
>One can be a Michael-esque professional
>One can be a gangster or someone affiliated with a crime group
>None of them know the others at all
>Their respective stories very much involve fucking each other over without knowing it
>In-game story decisions on ONE character's end may end with another getting supremely fucked over, losing a loved one, some other in-game loss, etc.
>News and NPCs acknowledge the other protagonists' actions within one character's cutscenes or whatever
>By the final mission arc, the three launch their own individual assaults on some facet of the main villain's business; essentially three different final missions
>One charge's the villain's factory or whatever, kills everyone there, and blows it up
>One finds the villain themself, chases him down and kills him

Defend that awful economy. Defend the fact that you can't spend your money on anything but ammo and clothing. Defend the lack of planes and almost any aircraft. Defend the lack of vehicle customization. Defend GTA 4 without using buzzwords.

I'm re-installing IV. Any good gun mods that don't mess up the gunplay?

>Defend GTA 4 without using buzzwords.
It's a legitimately good criminal simulator, probably the best in the series along with 3 and Chinatown Wars where you deal heroin and crack.

I'm not going to hop to 4's defense on that point, but what would you suggest? Off the top of my head, I can think of buying cars, better safehouses, hiring up to 3 armed bodyguards/thugs to back you up in-mission or out, maybe paying some unconventional auto-guy that the protagonists know to make a car fireproof/bulletproof, etc.

Not him but : haircuts, safehouses, guns for you hangout, better armor, trophies that show up around you house like in VC after you beat the delivery boy and porn missions.

Everything in GTA 5 should have been in 4. Properties, car dealerships, hangars, etc. I disliked 4 for the sole reason that they give you all this money for completing missions and fuck all to spend it on.

>complete heist in GTA 5
>buy some sportscars, a garage and take them to LSC and upgrade it, buy a property

>complete Three Leaf Clover
>sit on the money for the rest of the game

In V it's better to not spend money since the stock market can get you 100 million or more at the end

when they were making GTA1 they wanted to simulate a realistic living city and GTA4 is the closest they have come to that

Niko Bellic is still the most dangerous motherfucker in the HD universe.

you can get over $2 billion but by then it's pointless

Who the fuck played GTA for RPG elements? It was a shame that it lacked buying cars/customization and more safehouses but planes would have been retarded because the world was very small compared to SA or V.
IV was an attempt to make a more immersive/atmospheric GTA and I liked it for that. I understand that many people play GTA to do ridiculous shit, but that was never the appeal of the games for me.

I dunno about properties but that was my biggest issue with IV. Nothing puts a dent in your wallet so there's almost nothing to spend your money on. I don't think even an Infernus would put a dent in it. Rockstar also had no reason to not put in car customization.
>Why would Niko customize cars?? He's not a car guy!!!
Neither were fucking Michael or Trevor, fucking Rockstar.

I can understand wanting to do crazy shit, but I'm with you on this. I think Ballad of Gay Tony was the best in terms of how it handled over-the-top shit, with the attack chopper, SWAT tank, explosive shotgun, etc.

The tattoos are definitely not Niko, but you're right about the lack of car customization considering IV had some descent cars.

I could honestly see Michael having sleeper cars at his disposal, along with fake plates to swap them out upon fleeing from a scene.

Trevor I can see doing doofy ass shit with his car, like the horns you can get added to his Bodhi.

Vladivostok FM
Ruslana - Wild Dances
Leningrad - Nikogo ne Zhalko
Ranetki Girls - O Tebe
Basta - Mama
Dolphin - Rap
Kino - Gruppa krovi
Marakesh - Jdat'
Glukoza - Schweine
Seryoga - King Ring
Zveri - Kvartira
Oleg Kvasha - Zelenoglazoe Taksi (Club Remix)
Splean - Liniya Zhizni

Liberty Rock Radio
The Smashing Pumpkins - 1979
Stevie Nicks - Edge of Seventeen
Electric Light Orchestra - Evil Woman
David Bowie - Fascination
Black Sabbath - Heaven and Hell

The Journey
Terry Riley - A Rainbow in Curved Air
Michael Shrieve - Communique: 'Approach Spiral

San Juan Sounds
Angel y Khriz - Ven Báilalo

IF99 - International Funk
Gil Scott-Heron - Home Is Where the Hatred Is

L.C.H.C.
Cro-Mags - It's the Limit
Leeway - Enforcer

K109 The Studio
Tamiko Jones - Can't Live Without Your Love

The Vibe 98.8
Mtume - C.O.D. (I'll Deliver)

Radio Broker
Ralph Myerz - The Teacher
The Prairie Cartel - Homicide

The Beat 102.7
Fat Joe (feat. Lil Wayne) - Crackhouse
Papoose - Stylin'

The Classics
Brand Nubian - All for One
Marley Marl (feat. Craig G) - Droppin' Science


Episodes from Liberty City

L.C.H.C. [TLAD]
Bathory - Call from the Grave

Liberty Rock Radio [TLAD]
AC/DC - Touch Too Much
The Doors - Five To One
Jefferson Starship - Jane
Iron Maiden - Run To The Hills

K109 [TBOGT]
Rose Royce - Still In Love

San Juan Sounds [TBOGT]
Aventura - El Desprecio
Angel y Khriz (feat. Gocho & John Eric) - Na De Na
Ivy Queen - Dime (Reggaeton Mix)
Tego Calderon (feat. Oscar D'Leon) - Llora, Llora

Vladivostok FM [TBOGT]
Sucker DJs - Salvation (eSQUIRE Mix)
Jonathan Peters (feat. Maya Azucena) - Music
David Guetta (feat. Kelly Rowland) - When Love Takes Over

Vice City FM [EFLC ONLY]
Scritti Politti - Wood Beez (Pray like Aretha Franklin)
John Farnham - You're the Voice
Womack & Womack - Teardrops
Mai Tai - History
Robbie Nevil - C'est la Vie

don't mind me, just being deleted from the game

>considering IV had some descent cars

The (good) Sentinel, the Merit, the Hakumai. All shitboxes missing from GTAV.

>not pirating or using the downgrade patch

wew lad

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It sucks so much bros.

Those aren't RPG elements you fucking retarded gt4 babby

>mmersive/atmospheric
ah, theres are those buzzwords

What really annoys me about chase sequences is this:
>there are 2 kinds of chases
>”real” chases where you actually have to shoot and kill the target
>scripted chases where the target is invincible and you’re just supposed to keep following as long as script mandates
Ain’t it fucking annoying to play a chase sequence and to shoot tons and tons of bullets into someone’s car before realizing that it’s not doing anything and that it actually is a scripted chase.

Post your car.

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You get the Infernus for free. You get every apartment for free. Roman somehow buys them all despite half the game being him crying about debt. Bohan apartment is free. Algonquin one is free, same with the Alderney one. There is nothing in the game that puts a dent in your wallet so you finish every playthrough with more than $650,000.

$250,000 from the bank heist, $250,000 from the finale and an extra $150,000 and change from every other mission.

>having good atmosphere is a buzzword
Fucking faggot.

Cleanest and best gang car in the game.

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They should've allowed the player and Roman to buy businesses across LC to become legitimate businessmen and get that American Dream.

I wish I could kill both

My first GTA game was 3 and I liked it for the atmosphere and immersion too. You're retarded if you think those are buzzwords. I'll be specific: World design, sound design, lighting, weather, the songs on the radio, the weight of the movement and danger of the combat. I'm going to assume you're the type who spends their time in GTA speeding around in the fastest car they can find, crashing into everyone, running over pedestrians, shooting random people, constantly having stars, etc. We don't share a playstyle, believe it or not people play open-ended games in entirely different ways.

Just kill Francis, you edgy fuck. Derrick dies by the time GTAV happens anyway.

it is a buzzword because it's a go-to descriptive term when someone can't come up something actually tangible or objective. You see it from Bethesdrones who defend Fallout 3 all the time, same with IVfags like you.

>flies through the windscreen of the car

>Derrick dies by the time GTAV happens anyway.
All the more reason to pop him in 4. Save him 5 more years of guilt and drugs.

Now shut the fuck faggot.

Literally any game can be described as atmospheric, it's a vague term that means nothing which is why you see people use it all the time. It's a placeholder for actual praise.

The fact that you can't do this in GTAV made me sad. Just why.

Chasing the bikers was the worst mission ever. The original Mafia did it better than this.

One of these is wrong.

DKC 1 is more atmospheric and better than DKC2.

Bethescucks are the biggest retards around, and don't fit in here because IV's mood actually fits the setting of the story told unlike Bethesda who thinks Fallout is Nukes, BOS and Nuka Cola.

I used specifics, most games have shit atmosphere, Rockstar's biggest talent is building detailed worlds, kys, etc

It also kind of makes the plot look ridiculous in regards of Niko’s motivations
>Niko comes to LC with the idea of killing the traitor to his military unit, while saying that he just wants to start a new, more peaceful life away from all mess of East Europe (which could be just a pretense or not, maybe he really wanted to do it after getting the traitor)
>gets sucked to Roman’s troubles, ends up working for russian mob - makes sense, doesn’t really have much choice
>but them through all sorts of hoops he ends up working with italian mafia, puerto rican drug dealer, and all kind of assorted criminals - story makes less sense at this point, doesn’t really advance the revenge goal
>Niko gets rich due to his heists, yet still keeps on working with mob - literally why? What’s the point anymore?
I liked IV’s atmosphere, but it is trash at explaining what drives Niko forward in his misadventures with LC’s underworld. It’s just like he’s going through the motions.

already replied to you, faggot

I agree they are worse but they are similar in that both them and gta 4 babbys always default to that word. I knew they would which is why I said "without buzzwords".
If you're going to praise GTA 4 talk about collision physics or gunplay don't go >muh atmosphere like a retard.

Niko works for the assortment of gangsters because

a) he has no choice and does so for the safety of his family
b) he needs money and is only good at killing. fortunately for niko's pocketbook, everyone in liberty city needs someone else dead.

I'm not edgy, one is a liability that can testify against me and is one missed needle from spilling his guts and the other is a bent cop that sees me as a liability that could put him in prison for the rest of his life to save my own ass and is, without a doubt, going to kill me as soon as he thinks I'm no longer useful. There is no reason to let either one live

duh

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oh, and i forgot the most important part

c) he's hoping someone in liberty city's underground has information on the man he's looking for.

now i know this is bait since you ignored posts pointing out specifics
either that or you're a retard who uses the "gta 4 babby" buzzword and can't actually critique the game other than "ITS NOT SAN ANDREAS IT SUCKS"

how has this not been remastered yet?

Link of the downgrade patch?

Doesn't need remastering. Just give us a fucking port that works.

You didn't use specifics you listed off even more buzzwords without actually explaining how they make the game better or increase the overall quality of the game. This is how you can tell people don't know what they are talking about when this is how they describe games.

>world design
>sound design
>lighting
>weather
>radio
These are all just words. Explain how they actually make GTA 4 and combine with each other to make a good game. Then I'll take you seriously.

you didn't use any specifics
see

>but they are similar in that both them
They really aren't considering GTA IV is through and through a GTA, while Bethesda ruined the core of Fallout and ES.

Vigero (Beater) and I'd always make a run for the alderny docks to get one every time I joined a game.

>music on the radio that gives the game it's identity is a buzzword

Is GTAIV better than GTAV???

Yes. I didn't gut the game for the sake of sharkcards.

Still though, when I look back, I remember the fun I had outside of missions. When I think back on V, I remember being bored

>buzzword
>better
>quality
these are all just words, explain how GTA 4 is a bad game and people will take you seriously

It is unless you're actually able to explain how it gives it its identity.

>the radio is just good bro trust me
No, explain your reasoning.

So much better than the GTA V version

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No IV gutted the game for the sake of nothing

Then how come GTAV sold a billion more copies???

I never claimed it was bad but since you're just going to act like a butthurt child I don;t even care if you are going to bother explaining your argument anymore. And clearly your 4th grade education has prevented you from even differentiating between nouns and adjectives, and knowing what descriptive words are. I've been talking to a retard this whole time, not surprising.

You didn't gut the game? What?

IV wasn't "gutted'

They were developing a new GTA for a new generation, with a new engine, and had to start from scratch.

>No, explain your reasoning.
When you listen to the radio it's constantly talking about the instability in LC, the War on Terror and the growth of immigrants, it screams late 2000 America when we were still reeling in from 2001.

I'm a speed typer, forgot the t in It.

>Then how come GTAV sold a billion more copies???
There were more people gaming in 2013 than 2008.

On a completely unrelated note to anything, I replayed Lost and Damned recently and just noticed Johnny had a thing for the Puerto Rican drug mule that Elizabeta sent over

Back when GTAV came out, and I was still butthurt over Johnny's death, I dreamt of a GTAVI that took place in VC, where Malc offhandedly kills Trevor and is one of the protagonists.

I can agree with that. I think V's identity is more related to politics given the more obvious and prevalent political satire and the whole "Jock Cranley vs Sue Murray" being an obvious tongue-in-cheek reference to American elections and overall political climate. But at least you were able to actually explain something.

Francis is more of a threat, Packie is involved in most of the crap you do with Derrick and he wouldn't rat his own brother out. Francis blackmails Niko to do a bunch of shit it's not voluntary like with the rest of the family.

Yeah my answer was meh but the point is that IV puts a lot of focus on the issue of trust and betrayal. Trust is so rare in the game that it makes sense Niko would be such a brooding person. The late 2000s was pretty fucked up time because we were so angry and distressed, it showed up in our media and the economy going down the shitter didn't help.

i also feel like it lost the game lost focus as it progressed. the revenge plot probably could have been completely cut off and the game would still be the same, in the end the decision of killing the traitor doesn't even affect anything. the story starts and ends with niko and roman trying to find their place in the world while escaping russian mobs, but after the first house is burnt down roman is almost never seen, and its money debts and russian mobs chasing you down are never really felt as threatening during the game.

i think the premise was cool, but the game probably shouldn't have been developed like any other grand theft auto, it should have been its own franchise.

but again, i've not played the DLC neither, so i can't really judge the whole plot. from what i read in this thread there are some well-written twists, but they seemed much more light-hearted compared to the base game.

Nah. The Lost and Damned DLC is definitely a more depressing world.

>but they seemed much more light-hearted compared to the base game.
Just Gay Tony, Lost and the Damn is the destruction of a family.

ah, also the whole "Kill Mr X" vs "Kill Mr Y" or "Kill Mr X" vs "Spare Mr X" is fucking insulting. the consequences are minimal and sometimes the NPC doesn't even speak to you at all after those kind of missions. they wrote fucktons of internet pages and registered hours of radioshow but they couldn't think about some alternative questlines with proper cutscenes depending on who you decided to kill?


the ending in which the bitch dies was also really forced since i didn't even date her once. they should have sticked with the other one. the fact that the marriage scene has two alternative versions makes it loose impact

I don't like how GTA punishes me for going on a rampage.

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shit, i'm all in for this kind of shit

V still has more single player content than IV and all its expansions combined.

and yet it's almost entirely forgettable

but i killed playboy before he got in his car lol

>more = better

>but they couldn't think about some alternative questlines with proper cutscenes depending on who you decided to kill?
If you spare Dwayne's ex girlfriend in the mission Ruff Rider, you can find her out in the city and help her with her new abusive boyfriend.

If you spare Ivan in the mission Ivan the Not So Terrible, you can find him out in the city and help him deal with some loan sharks.

If you decide to let Clarence live in the mission Holland Nights, you encounter him randomly in the city, and have to kill him after he tries to take revenge.

I'll agree that most of the choices, especially relating to Revenge vs. Deal were underwhelming though.

Fucking this.

is this shit even playable on pc?!
I downloaded it but this motherfucker won't run

This, the characters who we play as unlikable as fuck, the guns all feel the same and the main story villains sucked ass compared to Dmitry, Faustin, Jimmy Pegorino, Ray Boccino or Billy Grey.

lmao the whole point of the deal ending was to make money but you get that 250k by doing the other ending anyway, plus you get to kill dimitri instead of letting him betray you. pegorino still dies too.

>Less = better
IVfags in a nutshell

>muh new engine
Not an excuse

The ending of V was also really rushed and shitty compared to IV.
>ok we need to kill literally all of the antagonists at once because we wrote ourselves into a corner
So you get this obnoxious buttfuck mission where all of the villains get wiped out with little to no build up. Meanwhile with IV you don't actually deal with every single antagonist in one story. Niko never kills Ray Bulgarin, Luis does. Johnny never kills Boccino, Niko does. It feels like each antagonist got some focus and a mission where you killed them in a satisfying way. Fucking Vlad, the very first antagonist of IV had a more built up death than any of the antagonists in V.

Quality > quantity every single time.

>muh new engine
>Not an excuse
It is for sonic heroes. fuck sony.

>Not an excuse
It literally is you dumb nigger. Games have deadlines and resources have to be allocated accordingly. R* dedicated x amount of time and money into developing a new foundation to build from, you stupid fucking monkey.

>The ending of V was also really rushed and shitty compared to IV.
It really was bro.
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Just compares it to this shit, it's like they din't even care anymore.
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See, and I would think if money actually mattered in IV, the Deal ending could have been more lucrative and actually worth doing. But you have very basic outfits and ammo to spend your money on, and if you're any good at the game you're getting your ammo from the people you kill in missions. Even 100% completion in IV was shit. It was a removal of the ammo cap, that's it. And if you quit and came back later, all of that ammo would be gone and you'd just have to buy it all again.

You're expecting Yea Forums shitters to know about game development.

>If you decide to let Clarence live in the mission Holland Nights, you encounter him randomly in the city, and have to kill him after he tries to take revenge.

kind of sorry i missed this one, at least it was different from the usual "thank you for saving my life niko, now help me doing this random job for no reason". but yeah, i meant real missions. i felt very sorry for killing dwayne after discovering that there was nothing left to do with playboy X.

>reeee no haircuts and hydraulics
GTA IV isn't San Andreas. There aren't planes because for the map of GTA IV having boats and helicopters just makes more sense. GTA IV doesn't want to occupy you by buying meaningless shit. You can buy clothes and ammo, that's all you need to go explore and fuck around. That is what the game promotes. People call the game a great tech demo because exploring the world and messing around is the funnest thing about the game.

HIT A LICK ON A NIGGA, UH
WHO WANTS SMOKE, I GOT SMOKE, I KILL HOES, UH
YA BOY NIKO LIGHT A NIGGA UP QUICK, UH
GLOCKS, AR's, AND KALASHNIKOVS UH!

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god gta 4 had the worst radio out of all the gta games

yeah, they should probably have let you buy houses, and maybe one of the most expensive ones was the one which roman dreamed about buying or some shit like that. it would have been pretty neat also if they made you pay for roman's debt

want a smoke-alotta late?
dont spill shit on the computers...!

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you want your (you)s, huh? well, go ahead and take mine

filtered pleb
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>t. has a toaster from 2006

>cant show me a good song
i rest my case

>all those Beat FM tracks
bitch ass nigga

i dont listen to nigger garbage

>he doesn't like Nitzer Ebb
What a faggot.

>having the worst taste ever

FUCK YOU THEN

>they should probably have let you buy houses
Not just houses but property in general would have been great.
> and maybe one of the most expensive ones was the one which roman dreamed about buying or some shit like that
He dreamed about Niko and him owning a restaurant. I feel that would have been a nice thing to be able to buy. Maybe it would also open more interesting activities with your friends as well.
> it would have been pretty neat also if they made you pay for roman's debt
Him all of a sudden going on a lucky streak when he gambled and breaking himself out of his debt felt like a quick and rushed way of dropping a very prominent plot point. There was a lot that could have been done with Roman in general.

shut up nigger
sounds lame and gay

>driving down Times Square at night
>starts raining
>YOU MADE A FOOL OF MEEEE~
>mfw

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Ray never deserved any of the crap he got.

>reeee why doesnt the first HD GTA game that was made in a new engine in 2008 have all the cool extra stuff that a game that came out in 2013 on the next gen has
reminder that people who think GTA 4 is shit are kids whos first GTA was GTA 5

>reminder that people who think GTA 4 is shit are kids whos first GTA was GTA 5 AND SA
Fixed.

GTA 4 and san andreas had more things to do than GTA5. You couldn't even date women in 5 or customize weight through workout/diet

it was a alright game, but jesus christ the misssions were repetitive as fuck

only one of those two games have both and its not gta 4 :)

The only other GTA other than IV that puts emphasis on quality over quantity is Chinatown Wars.

That sounds like every gta game.

Thoughts on the girlfriends in IV? Unironically thought Michelle was the best one. Boy, was I disappointed.

>fucking Carmen
Puerto Rican accents make me want stab pencils into my ears.

I miss the girlfriend phone perks in V. being able to call off a 3 star wanted level or healing to full on the spot was really useful

Speed bump

The rich chick in manhattan is the best she writes about her dates with Niko on her blog

She was probably the sanest non-story girlfriend, yeah

But Francis's missions consists of Niko pretty much killing anyone who has dirt on him, from a drug dealer to a legitimate lawyer.

He's pretty much as corrupt as Tenpenny, but with the delusion of being a moral upstanding citizen.

Defend microtransactions in GTA5. Be careful not to play yourself, because you're already coming off as a fanboy.

Roman should be the next GTA protagonist.

There are no microtransactions in GTA 5. I'm not talking about that game.

Roman fell into a deep depression right after his house burnt down and got addicted to the card games. Shit, Brucie warned Niko that Roman was messing around in illegal underground games that even he wouldn't mess with.

The revenge plot makes sense because Niko doesn't know his way around Liberty City and has no idea where the other two members of the squad are hiding in.

Are you retarded? The game literally spells out that the Italian Mob is on their deathbed. This is reinforced by Mr. Gravelli, the oldest mob boss literally on his sickbed. Pegorino's plan to get on the commission falls apart because he lacks manpower, finances, and smarts to get ahead.

Niko spends most of Algonquin helping out Phil because Ray is too dumb to scheme.

>Gerry McReary
>Escaped prison when The Lost MC broke in to kill Billy
>Didn't want to bring heat to his brother or family, so fucked off from Liberty City and steered clear of Los Santos (let's just say he knows Packie's there)
>Basically a much more composed Trevor (one story Packie tells Niko is that Gerald just came home one night covered in blood and completely calm) handling his problems with extreme brutality
Yay or nay?

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Pack your bags boys we're heading to Belfast.

>shark cards aren't microtransactions
The Rockstar fanboy is delusional, and swallows corporate dick on a daily basis. He also eats all the shit his developer throws at him. Capitalism at its finest

IV took place in Post 9/11 NYC. Around that time, the city passed a lot of restrictions on all the fun things in an effort to clean up the city. You can't fly planes or almost any aircraft out of fears of a terrorist attack.

As a New Yorker, I feel like IV nailed how much the mayor sucked all the fun out of the city.

>wwn have a GTA in late 80s North Ireland were we bomb pubs, stab proddies and deal smack to Thin Lizzy
youtube.com/watch?v=hQo1HIcSVtg

Did Gerry really bust out? I thought he was in prison for life.

Nah, that was just me coming up with a what-if scenario for Gerry to be a protagonist.
>I thought he was in prison for life.
He was, but Rockster could easily write that he escaped during The Lost's break-in. Don't forget they blew a hole in the entrance of the place.

I'd play the hell out of that. What's the most Irish place in America that's not Boston? Philly?

Fuck you and fuck New York, I want to have fun in GTA games

You just mad that Roman is an optimist. Him having a lucky stream could easily meant that he went to legitimate gambling establishments instead of rigged underground ones.

Manchester

is there a gta iv graphics modding guide that doesn't suck dick

The game would have to take place in NJ as a whole, or include Liberty's equivalent to LI or Upstate for fun.

Bloomberg, Deblasio, and Guliani and 9/11 pretty much killed all the fun in the city

V is much worse in this aspect
Red Dead 2 is somehow EVEN WORSE

DONT STOP THE BODY ROCK

This would be kino, especially allowing you to choose how story plays out by playing favorites with the characters.

>Niko: “I don’t want to kill anybody!”
>Also Niko: guns down thousands

Pure fucking energy.

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Niko is a self admitted hypocrite.

IV calls out Niko on being a hypocrite. It plays into his decision to kill or spare Drako.

Oh, you're talking about GTA Online?

>Basically a much more composed Trevor (one story Packie tells Niko is that Gerald just came home one night covered in blood and completely calm) handling his problems with extreme brutality
This. I never paid much attention to him in IV, but replaying it when I was older, he really seemed to be the smartest, most ambitious, AND most brutal of the McReary brothers, considering Packie was small-time and only spent on hookers and blow, Francis was a cop, and Derrick was a junkie. Derrick wanted to bring his Irish gang back to its former glory and actually had plans and shit to do so. That one mission where he had Niko impersonate a biker and showed Niko the corpse of the biker he murdered in the freezer...

Yay. If they gave a side character like Toni Cipriani a game, Then I don't see why they couldn't do one for Gerry

>they give a game to a mook who died in the second cutscene of the game
>it's the best game of that setting
VCS was awesome.

>they give a game to a mook who died in the second cutscene of the game
Holy fuck, I forgot about that. The Gerry thing doesn't even seem all that implausible after that. Not that I think it'll happen, of course.

This but unironically, GTA 4 is the only good Rockstar game.

VC Era will always be the best game ruined by the one worst character in the entire franchise: Lance Vance. The only other characters worse than him are Ma Cipriani andn Maria

Gerry is too implausible on the account of organized crime being dead in IV, and not much for him to do in the US.

I'd love it if they did considering the Irish mob was a big part of the East Coast until the Italians came over.

>Gerry takes over either Boston or Birmingham
I'd be fucking down for it. Yay

The Irish, The Italians, And the Jews run america. The Irish are the military, The Italians are the intelligence agency's, And the Jew is the leader

Jesus, I forgot he was such a unit

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I say he went back to Ireland if he escaped prison

>that side mission with the serial killer

god damn, compare that to the shitty towtrucking side missions in V. it isn't even close.

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gta iv and gta v is literally the soul-soulless meme

I like putting on claude's outfit.

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GTA IV has worse missions than GTA VC/ SA and even III. The amount of inane "drive someone to a spot" missions is ridiculous to the point the game feels padded and out of ideas.

I wish they continued that concept of the Stories games and Episodes DLCs. I guess all the Online shit for V was a more profitable way of reusing V's map but it's still a damn shame, having you take the role of a minor character getting up to their own shit was such a neat idea.