THOU WHO SEEKETH THE KING'S SWORD!

Absolutely. You miss out on the Old Monk fight and the thrill that comes from the risk/reward dynamic that invasions bring, but it's still a fantastically well-designed game when played offline.

>*Falls off Boletarian Palace wall*
Heh, nothin personnel...

I have no shame in admitting that I just poison him most of the time and run away. Though I also beat him in a faire fight.

I didn't fight him because he seemed like a nice guy

Yes, this game is even more atmospheric than my fsvorite dark souls and bloodborne

>Want to help players get through the ice cream octopus.
>Get summoned to kill someone less geared up than you
How did you guys handled it? Did you give a free win or a challenge? If there was a summon I go full out

DeS, Dark Souls 1 & BB are the only ones worth touching

Fight with all I got, but don't use healing items.

Yes, it is still the best From Soft game with "Souls" in the title. A private server exists as well so online isn't technically dead.

>the "Bloodborne is better than DS3" maymay again
epic
simply epic

But it is.

DS3 is an unbalanced mess grasping at references and trying to ride on the glory of DS1.

bro there is a private server running

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>give me that... that thing.. your dark soul...

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There's literally about three DS1 references in the whole game, stop spreading this meme. It's way more fun than BB as well. The only thing BB does better is story.

>Siegmeyer 2.0
>Patches
>Andre right from the beginning in Firelink Shrine
>Artorias/Sif fanboy club that makes zero sense
>Aldrolyn and Recycled Londo
>the albino gargoyles
>Person-consuming Paula

And that's only from the top of my head. The only people who think DS3 is the best are the ones who played it first, or dexfags.

The only ones worth touching are DeS, DS3, and BB.

>*dies*
>HROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAGHHHHH

The only ones worth touching are DeS, DS1 and DS3

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throw in Bloodborne and you have a perfect list.

>DS3
>worth touching

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>PLEASE. HELP ME.
>bell chimes
>EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGHHHH

>singing in distance

>There's literally about three DS1 references in the first five minutes.
Fixed that for you bro.

Present the evidence.

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>Demon Ruins featuring Queelag's sister and filled with Taurus, Capra and Stray Demon corpses and somehow two dead Centipede Demons
>Witch of Izalith, 4 Kings, Nito and Seath murals in Farron Keep
>Oscar's corpse leaning on a Lordvessel in the same position as he did in the Asylum
>Kirk, Knight of Thorns
>Firelink Shrine after Demon Prince

>Firelink Shrine after Demon Prince

To be fair that's fine, seeing how the whole area is like the garbage bin of the world

>tfw you consume Flamelurker's soul and are fucked for the whole NG cycle.

Does anyone on PC have a Vordt soul they could drop for me? SL54ish

Demon's Souls is the top of the crop bar none.

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Where was Oscar on DS3?

Just popin in to say that to only ones worth touching are des ds1 and bb

Right at the start, brother.

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the corpse you get the ashen flask from

not him but you're a fucking retard
>anor londo is seen not even 10 seconds into the opening
>oscar's corpse right as you step out of your grave
>he's leaning against a lordvessel
>after beating the boss you enter firelink shrine
>right next to it is a bell of awakening
>the bonfire is embedded into another lordvessel
>andre is just there
>the first place you teleport to is a room with yet ANOTHER lordvessel

Five seconds into the game.
He's where you get your Ashen Estus from.

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You're a retard who doesn't seem to get what a sequel is. Dante being in DMC2 isn't a reference to DMC1.

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>rent this game a dozen times as a kid from blockbuster
>never ever once get past that fucking moon nigger

He's like the first boss. Still haunts me to this day.

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>tfw BJ is bigger than you.

Basically this.

Well, the poses is definitely meant to evoke memories of Oscar but it's most likely not meant to actually be him. The knights of Astora seem to be pretty prolific given that Anri is also one of their number

fucking this

>DS3 is an unbalanced mess
lmao you say that trying to defend a game that has 2 builds that do good damage and magic that one-shots you
user is right, the good things about bloodborne are the gameplay, story, atmosphere and map design. it has no replay value, no variety, ok music and the only good bosses are other humans (not micolash, that fight was fucking horrible) and the other bosses be described like "just get under it and hit it" or "kill a lot of them until you find which one takes damage"

>the only good bosses are other humans (not micolash, that fight was fucking horrible) and the other bosses be described like "just get under it and hit it" or "kill a lot of them until you find which one takes damage"

So like literally every other souls game?

>"There's literally about three DS1 references in the whole game"
>gets utterly BTFO
>"u-u-uhhhh i-it's a sequel r-retard!!!!!!"
are you really that fucking stupid
no shit it's a sequel you dumbfuck
that doesn't have to do anything with your original statement that it has few references to the first game

>okay music
Leagues better than Yukashit that's for sure.

Joke's on you, I'm not the same user. Was just curious. Have a good day, cunt.

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huh I either never noticed or forgot almost immediately

Moon guy in quest 64? I have beat that game countless times, but there is no moon guy

>"u-u-uhhhhhhh a-actually i-i'm not the same guy!"
even if that were the truth you'd still be pathetic

>the other bosses be described like "just get under it and hit it" or "kill a lot of them until you find which one takes damage"
Its fucking comical, because you just described every Souls boss in existence.

>is just a shitty npc fight instead of a proper boss

does this work with a CFW?

This, though BB is more overrated than both DeS and DaS together.

Another brainlet that cant grasp DaS3.
I cant picture anyone using that dated "reference ds1" argument as anything but an idiot.

even if we disregard the reference problem das3 is just mechanically bad

Unironically one of the top 3 hardest fights in the entire series if you fight him without cheesing, only rivaled by shit like the Defiled Watchdog. I don't care what anyone says. There's a reason why practically everyone cheeses this dude with Death Cloud or continuous backstabs after de-aggroing him.

Why wouldn't it?

Dark Souls 3 is the worst one. Even 2 is better

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Not ashamed to admit that I cheesed the ever loving shit out of that prick. Thought he was a pussy until I got him down to 50% health and then he went fucking ballistic.

A spear was my friend for the fight

You fool...
Don't you understand?
No one wishes to go on.

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kek, nice

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Sure nigga, if you're still around

no it isn't you absolute brainlet

shut the fuck up and stop saying braindead shit like this

>Micolash
He's cool gimmick boss. At least he's more memorable than anything in DaS3's roster of dudes in armour and anime swordsmen.

This.

DS3 is good for one playthrough. Absolutely zero replayability as nothing is that viable. Unlike Des or ds2 where you can play with anything

>t. dexfag

I dont care whats better than what. But if you cant understand why things from old are there in 3, you just get yourself a dumb dumb cerrificate.

why are you lumping me in with the other user talking about old things? I'm talking about DS3 being overall bad for othe reasons than niche, small references. Although having Andre the Blacksmith at firelink shrine in ds3 was just cringey

All bowls are lordvessels. I fill my lordvessel with cereal and milk

Dark Souls 2 isnt even good for one playthrough because of how shit each and every level is

you have 5 seconds to name a more stylish, more effective, more reliable, and more fun build than dual rapiers
if you haven't ever gone dual rapiers don't reply

dual spears

cuck

The only Souls games worth trying are the ones you feel comfortable with.

>8 players online

Lol

nigga it's eight on the private server or fucking ZERO on the shut down ones

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Follow the chain, im just specifically talking about the person and people in general diminishing the game for "references". When the game is in fact telling you a thematically fitting story through them.

>slower and less stamina efficient for barely longer range
>can't parry
>useless block
>100 critical dmg vs 130
spears are top 5 though i'll give you that but all in all rapiers are just plain better especially in the left hand

Almost beaten the game and False King Allant has just destroyed my fun. Normally, I'll press on but with the tendecy fucking me over(Pure black) and him one hitting me because of the half health mechanics. I give up. The only way I can see myself beating him is to continue and it's tedious to get to him or grind and desu, that's even more tedious. Stormruler's arena is the best grinding spot but I just can't bring myself to do it. THAT or restart.

*sighs* So close. I really hate the tendecy mechanic now. Even with a shield, I doubt i can beat him. So close and yet, this is the first souls game that makes me give up.

desu im just salty because das2 had the same issues with it's references but everyone was/is shitting on it while das3 gets away scott free

das3 is bad for other reasons too though

>*sighs*

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>being one hit by allant
what the fuck how low is your hp
>grinding
aaand thats a yikes from me

The problem is that 2 is inconsistent. The themes it conveys are very poorly sewed in. 3 at least takes from it the lore bits that works and use it properly.

People shit on DaS2 because it's bad, being derivative is a rather insignificant part of its badness.

Are you still here? Explain!

2 is fairly consistent - i agree that it's not doing it's themes justice with it's presentation, but they are there throughout the games and the dlc

too bad it flew over most people's heads because it only tangentially related to the original lore - i firmly believe it would've gotten a better reception if it were called a different souls game (like king's souls or something"

>People shit on DaS3 because it's bad, being derivative is a rather insignificant part of its badness.

Fix'd

poke nigga

Wrong, derivativeness is the biggest criticism for DaS3. It's boring, but it's polished and works as intended, the complete opposite of 2.

Both are true.

Nice moving of the goalposts there.

It is there but it's not very well used or told. I can give an example: the Throne of Want.
To this day i still dont really get it. Then comes 3 and in the first 10 minutes it makes perfect sense of it. It's just a minor thing but shows how 3 takes from 2 and do it properly.

>derivativeness is the biggest criticism for DaS3

Are you on bath salts? Derivativeness is the least of the criticism for DaS3.

>fucked weapon balance (hope you enjoy straight swords)
>fucked poise
>terrible pvp
>mechanically bad bosses, some worse than others

All of which is rooted on their incompetent switch to the BloodBorne engine. I'm not saying a faster-paced DS would never work but they either didn't have the time or didn't give a shit to properly transfer all the new mechanic into the faster playstyle.

on a smaller scale, the throne of want makes perfect sense - wanna-be queens pushing kings to fuck themselves over (nashandra to vendrick, shanalotte to you, and then there's the dlc's)

it's basically a homage to macbeth, and 2 heavly steals from it's themes (there's even mcduff in there for fuck's sake)

that's why i say the game feels more like (and probably would've been better) as an "x's souls" sequel rather than a "dark souls 2" sequel

You literally can't refute this

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I wouldnt give them that much credit for literature homage. If anything the way i interpret it now after playing 3 is that Vendrick and Nashandra relationship could be read as the Lord of Cinder that ran from it's duty to sit on the Throne. Nashandra being the one to convince him of it. Your character in 2 basically does the same quest but not as cinder as in the sequel.
For me it elevates 2 a little by reaeing it this way and makes it fit better in the storyline. But that's thanks to how 3 fixes it than by 2 own merit.

>Patches
I mean, patches was even in bloodborne so it's kind of unfair to use him, the only game he didn't turn up in was 2.

I havent played Dracula Curse so i dont know what it means.

>after playing 3
nigga do you think they were thinking about any of that when they were making DS2?

>muh PvP
>uhhhh bosses, yeah, that'll save face
Bosses are quite literally all DaS3 has going for it and I don't think you understand what an engine is. Why would you want to be even faster anyway, was BB not boring enough for you? There's no value in fighting spastic anime beasts if you're a spastic anime yourself.

Based
I have his scream as notification sound

except nashandra doesn't really gives a shit about vendrick after he went to hiding and hollowing out - i meant the part where she convinced him to fuck the giants up that gave him the power of the golems but ended up fucking him (and the kingdom) over in the long run

and remember, nashandra wants the throne for himself - she only pushes you to open up the path for her, not for you to take the throne

the nly person who actually pushes you to take the throne is shanalotte

>normal game
>deviant aberration
>normal game

I haven't played Dracula's Curse but I've heard it was good so it can't be DaS3.

I dont know their intentions because its so poorly explained.
Which is why im saying 3 fixes it.
Either it explains better and that was always their intention or it retcons it and makes it fit better with the series. Which is it well never know.

Imagine you have an 8 man crew
It doesn't look like much, but that would be enough to do coop, pvp and all sort of shit

>Bosses are quite literally all DaS3 has going for it

That's pretty sad because the majority of them garbage

>big armor (guy) that spams attacks and forces you to roll a million time between punishing it once, repeat ad nausea, sometimes standing upright sometimes in all four
>giant beast that zooms around the boss area like a retard, enjoy whacking on it's ankles before it catches you in a bullshit aoe attack
>oh there's also deacon of the deep i guess? too bad it's literally the prowling magus of das3

>Hey guys, let's have a thread about the classic film Jaws™
>What? Fuck that, let's bitch about whether Jaws 3D is worse that Jaws 4: the Revenge for the 12 billionth time

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They're both terrible.

DeS, DS, BB, and Sekiro are the only ones worth playing. Numbered titles are trash

She wants it but she wants to use it and Kiln herself? But it wouldnt make sense if she does.
Nashandra is dark, doesnt want the Flame rekindled, convince Vendrick to not use it. She wants the Throne but to block people from using it.
I'll just keep with this version. It doesnt create holes and it fits nice.

>It doesnt create holes

vendrick is dead/hollowed, i doubt he has the power to rekindle the flame anymore even if she would drag him in by force. the throne is already blocked by the time you first talk with her: you need to make your way to vendrick's grave (which is heavily guarded by all manner of bullshit) just to get his ring, and then get the giant's kinship to be actually able to reach the throne. if she wants to prevent the flame to be rekindled why would she tell you to seek the king, and ruin an already existing line of defense to it?

It's sad, as both 2 and 3 suffer from very similar issues but different enough to attract a different fanbase, causing the shitflinging of the same arguments against either installment in every souls thread.

>>oh there's also deacon of the deep i guess? too bad it's literally the prowling magus of das3
Actually, it's a lot better than Congregation as it has two gimmicks as opposed to zero and it's not just a bunch of common enemies shoved on a shitty unremarkable tiny room. It also plays one of the best tracks of that game. I'll give you the other two though, their only appeal is their aggressiveness when directly compared with the dozens of passive humanoid zombies DaS2 arbitrarily gave a health bar and a soundtrack.

Expecting you to die or she actively want to destroy the Throne which Vendrick locked behind all these. I accept either.
Vendrick being hollow doesnt mean much.l, who knows how much time passed, offcourse he would hollow in time by staying in that crypt. He was clearly strong enough in his prime to be a Lord and kindle the flame.

U make it sound lime the game was active until it shut down, ahit was dead for years plenty of people still played

I actually kinda liked SQ when I was a kid, there weren't really that many games where you can explore around the world
ds2 is shit through and through

Based

Shit taste

>boomer reaction times

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>Des
>Sekiro
Fuck off shit taste
Ds1/3/BB are the only good ones

WE'RE THE RATS

Absolutely, DeS is an amazing game and one of the best Souls games from Fromsoft. The atmosphere is unrivaled still and it feels very original and creative.

I'M THE GIANT RAT DAT MAKES ALL OF THE RULEZ

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If you’re gonna play it, play it on rpcs3 if you’re comp is beefy enough
youtube.com/watch?v=L0RraN9qk48

Put dark souls as cv3 and DeS as CV1

>hating the best boss in the entire series
fucking casuals

Yeah, yeah ok. You started a DeS thread.
Now post the pics.

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Sekiro is great, fuck off.

Probably the most fun final boss in all those games.

ds2 sucks

Too bad about the
>Music
>Rekins
>Replayability
>Multiiplayer
>Pretty much everything else
Reeks of laziness

Yes, the online experience was trash anyways

>Too bad it doesnt offer dark souls
Its not a dark soul game faggot.

aged like wine: des
aged like milk: ds1
was already rotten: ds2
expired food repackaged: ds3
no expiration date, good forever: bloodborne
flavor of the month: sekiro

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Thats just like, your opinion, man.

>no expiration date, good forever: bloodborne
>flavor of the month: sekiro

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Never, ever use Ricardo for your shitposts again.
Lurk 2 more years before posting again.

>the majority of them garbage
>ignites sword
>leaps across arena with a howl
>does a 4 move combo then lets you hit him 3 to 4 times
>*heh, not bad kid but you haven't even seen my second form yet*
Dark Souls 3 bosses were fucking awful, most weren't even memorable

>does a 4 move combo then lets you hit him 3 to 4 times

more like
>does a 6 move combo then lets you hit him once, in which the majority of the times he recovers faster than you and hits you back unless you use straight swords

>finally wrap up my From backlog
>still want more so bite the bullet and try the Surge
>it's actually really fucking good
>probably the best "souls like" after Dark Souls 1 for me
>fun and fast combat with limb cutting
>individual armor pieces for each body part
>level design is good with loops and shortcuts, visuals are a bit samey
how'd they do it lads, from that shit heap of LotF to this

you can play with servers using a ledditor's proxy settings for your PS3, but yes. I recently replayed it and had a great time. Demon's doesn't need PVP to be a fantastic game, so offline was fine.

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RELEASE ME

>personafaggot also likes DS3
imagine my shock

...

based and factual

Why do some of you have to ruin a comfy DeS thread?

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You have a heart of gold, don't let them take it from you.

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Based
But DS1 is still ace.

Surely you have seen for yourself...

youtube.com/watch?v=O_bbALTxXpg

The OST is so good.

Why do we hate Micolash, but love all the gimmick trash bosses OF DeS?

>backstab cheese him
nothin personnel

Bump

It’s spelt perineal not peronsal

...

Remaster when

Mess up once and its ogre.

>stunlocks you with DBS knockdowns
Nothing personal, I just want your armor bro