Is this the greatest game ever made?

Based
Cringe

>projection
Neck yourself faggot

maybe for zoomers

when the fuck is sekiro gunna go on sale its still 80 dollars like im not gunna spend that on a single player game

I did many times before and the rebuttals were always the same pathetic ''I have severe shit taste'' or ''u just jeasously u cant play it'' (even thought I have platinum trophy on it), you people are just subhumans that will never understand or agree even if I make a 30min long video on why BB is mediocre

you live in ausland?

no, it's shit, play a real action game soulsfags

>platinums game he hates full of flaws
>talks about niggers with no standards

>still ain't got shit to say
Ay yo hol up

he didn't say he hates it, but I wouldn't expect Yea Forums frequenters to have basic reading comprehension.

>lack of build variety
>RPG elements are shallow
>able to warp from the start
>pacing is iffy, there needed to be one more mandatory area before Mensis
>needs more chalice dungeon variety and layouts
>spread out weapons better instead of half being in DLC

listen user, you dont need to come here and spout buzzwords.
we're both people that probably lead relatively normal lives, and ill bet that you started comming here for vidya discussion and not to call people braindead niggers for having an opinion
so do you want to discuss the vidya game and its "flaws" or do you want to keep acting like a pretentious faggot?

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Yuck

no.

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he said its "mediocre"
much better post cant disagree still goat

can't jump with L3

Shit and reddit game

thinking a game is mediocre and hating a game are two completely different things

canada, the country with the highest prices and lowest wages

>not even the best of the souls series
>best game ever

I can’t fucking play this shit for more than 10 mins I don’t know why it’s just I get bored of it anyone else have this feel

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Are you the gayest OP ever made?

Mediocre means not good and he played it enough to obtain the platinum trophy instead of playing all these "GOOD" games that exist beside it. I would say it was a very hateful experience. Genius level IQ retards quick to point out loose semantics when there is also a big difference between mediocre and greatest game ever, of which Bloodborne is objectively neither.

tl;dr: Bloodborne is a pretty good game surrounded by dumb shitposting and hyperbole(mostly only in our Yea Forums echo chamber though, the rest of the world moved on a couple years ago)

Kind of?
I can play for awhile until I get stuck on a boss, where I try only a few times each day and not much more then that.
Sucks since I want to see more of this game because I love the atmosphere and everything but I'm too trash to comfortably get through it easily.

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It's the ONLY game every made

I’ve played games that are difficult but I can’t stand getting respawned 100 feet awaying and running through the gauntlet of enemies well at least soulsfags can enjoy it

It's not necessarily the gauntlet of enemies that bothers me, it's just that I get to the boss, get my ass handed to me and a silver platter, and sent right back.
It takes way too long to get back in order to have the chance to *maybe* have a lucky accident where I learn how to dodge it correctly.

>lack of build variety
theres no less build variety in this then any other souls game, for one. every stat in the game can be leveled independently as its own build. and any mix of 2 stats has its own build to play. even retarded shit like arcane bloodinge have a place. because i dont know about you, but being a peice of broccoli with a shotgun that one shots is pretty interesting as far as builds go.
>RPG elements are shallow
firstly this int an rpg. its an arpg, the roleplaying elements are encased in the games mechanics and world design, not in its dialogue choices and stats, but even then the stats are more then adequate all things considered. the game tells your story through its world and characters. and while things like factions do exist, they arent at the forefront of the gameplay. because its the gameplay itself that is what you're roleplaying.
>>able to warp from the start
this can be explained by lore reasons.
and while i agree that needing to get the soul vessel in ds1 was a fantastic mechanic, and game design. it also wouldnt work in the games story, the whole reason you can teleport from the start is because your player charicter is basically going through what Bill Murray went through in the movie groundhog day. and warping is simply you remembering somewhere, or going into a dream.

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>pacing is iffy, there needed to be one more mandatory area before Mensis
this is a pretty subjective argument but ill address it anyways. the reason its placed right after you find the research hall is because this is the point in the game where you're usually having the epiphany of wrapping your head around whats actually going on in yharnam. you just went through a town that had lovecraftian demigods clinging to buildings watching your every movement, this area is placed in such a way as too feel like you've reached where its all stemming from and i personally feel like its done rather well. if they added another area, the feeling of lingering dread from yhar ghul wouldave died off and the nightmare wouldn't have been as horrifying
>needs more chalice dungeon variety and layouts
you can only expect the pthumerians to have so many bricks
but i always felt that the mix of the isz and loran chalices was enough veriety to keep it inte
resting the whole way through. along with the poison areas that were a bit more decrepit. besides theres only so many things i can see them doing with underground cripts before you get a repeat of dark souls level design where you're in some kind of weird world with volcanoes next to swamps
>spread out weapons better instead of half being in DLC
i can get behind this. having to go to the dlc to pick up a decent skill weapon, or to cainhurst for a decent blt melee is pretty annoying. but they also cant give you everything at once otherwise you would loose the feeling of finding a new weapon later on.
you cant attack with square either

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It's up there. It totally is the only reason to own PS4, one of the worst consoles ever made, in terms of library.

Except Souls game let you skip 100% of the enemies on your way to the boss except maybe DaS2 where you don't get i-frames as soon as you touch the fog gate

Where are you stuck, user? You probably don't even have to fight that boss
This but unironically, agreed 100% russian bro. The real sadness truth problem is that when it was given away on PS+ lots of shitters played it. I paid $10 for it on craigslist and beati t 2 years beforehand on my gf's ps4
For ps4 this is unironically true, even still.

>Where are you stuck, user? You probably don't even have to fight that boss
Good old Vicar Almelvin.
I got through BSB with just using 1 vial, so idk why I'm having trouble all of a sudden. (I do know part of it is just the camera and my lack of timing)

I can't think of a single boss in BB with a bad runback. Maybe Shadows of Yharnam?

>>projection
I don't think you know what that means.

As someone who BB was his first soulslike game, I think it's worth mentioning that I one-shot Vicar Amelia, and lost to BSB probably 24 times (was where I quit the game the first time I tried it) BUT I was probably overleveled as fuck when I finally killed Vicar because I did healing church workshop, hemwick charnel lane and its boss, hypogean goal and its boss, all before fucking with vicar amelia .

Without spoilers let's just say there are a couple other places you can go instead of her boss room in the cathedral that might help you out with the fight.

Oh?
BB is my first soulslike too, so knowing that you aren't locked out of places until you beat X boss (like you were with cleric beast/father) is good to know. I will definitely check those places out next, thank you!

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She is a mandatory boss but you don't have to kill her yet. Game is easier if you go to the left and do the area there instead of fighting her first. You'll go through a cave and come out in a big field with dogs and guys with guns. Trust me bro you'll have a better time with the game if you go here first. Also if you get snatched by a jumping slow dude with a giant sack in cathedral ward like right outside of the bonfire area, and carried away to a new area, just get the fuck out of there ASAP and do not waste your time there. Not worth it.

Cleric beast is optional.
Papa G is not.
BSB is optional.
Vicar is not.
You do have to kill Vicar to progress to forbidden woods, but you can do those other offshoots first

Not even close

Thank you for the directions!
And for the bagged man, I already got smuggled across the border with him, but it's ok because I suicide ran to a part where I grabbed some neat armor (eventually sold it since the hunter armor was better anyway) then ran back to the lamp and went back to the cathedral)

I already beat father, cleric, and BSB, it's just vicar that keeps giving me trouble.
Gonna explore the certain spoiler areas that the other hoonter bros are alerting me of, so hopefully that'll help level me up a bit more for my next attempt.

>what is the GOAT
>YOUR AGREMENT IS SUBJECTIVE

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Would be a 10/10 if Chalice Dungeons weren't shit so it gets a 9.5/10

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Brigador, Rain World, Furi, Hyper Light Drifter, House of the Dying Sun, Redout, were all better than this, and I think BB is a 8.5 or 9 out of 10. Just wish they could've had less unfinished areas (Byrgenwerth / Lecture Building / Moonside Lake) and if it expanded on some cool ideas that were brought up then never really touched again (Upper Cathedral Ward, Nightmare Frontier)
The DLC is great too but basically mandatory for half the weapons and the best content/bestbosses, which sucks because I'd really like to replay it on PC but you can't play the DLC through PS Now
If the game was 30fps I'd love it, it's more like 18-24 (was even worse pre-patch, they patched it to make the graphics worse so it would run better) - it is really held back by its platform. Some bosses run like shit especially in chalice dungeons and dumb shit like Camerabeast Paarl drops the fps to like 6 every time he slams the ground with the electric attack. But whatever. Still a good game. Just could've been a lot better with another 6-12 months to work on it and not being stuck on ps4.

Yea hypogean gaol is a piece of shit especially at that point. Go do hemwick then maybe try it again. You can do it after Vicar also but not after the boss of the area after the area you unlock after vicar, so you would want to do it before then

>Just finished an all bosses no level up run

Holy fuck. I will say, though, Fromsoft really gets lazy with hitboxes on big enemies. Laurence, Moon Presence and Orphan all have some fucked up and I mean completely FUCKED hitboxes that linger on for far too long and take a fuckton of space, it's ridiculous. Of those, only Laurence is an actual fucking cunt of a boss and whoever thought it was ok to make you fight him in that room should be punched in the dick.

Anyway yeah Bloodborne is a pretty good vidya.

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Yeah since you did BSB you can do healing church workshop its above the cathedral ward chapel, a door opens there you can take now
I would do that then get the radiant sword hunters badge there and then go to hemwick

Stockholm Syndrome has really warped the perception of this game entirely and it's basically impossible to have a honest conversation about this game. Inb4 some retard thinks I just called the game bad.

>this is a pretty subjective argument
No it's not. There's only 8 mandatory areas in Bloodborne. The other half is optional. I don't have a problem with this, but what is an issue is that the game could easily end at Mergo's Wet Nurse. After killing Rom there are only 2.5 (half of lecture building which is the smallest area in the game) areas left to beat the entire game, and a good chunk of Mensis is optional anyhow. There should have been one more area to go through before Mensis, the game can end too soon on the most basic route.

Fuck no lmao it’s a solid 7/10

Immensely flawed beyond measure, a 7/10 at best. Despite this, it is still probably the best (only?) game on PS4.

>literally 20 estus flasks
>can roll/dodge-step like 7 times on base stamina
>regain mechanic ezmode
>no blocking or poise so its literally just mash R1
>a bunch of bosses can be cheesed whether with items or certain transform weapons / special attacks
>best areas are too short and small (Cainhurst)
>worst areas are too big and stupid (Nightmare of Mensis)
>bad bosses are REALLY bad (Micolash, Amygdala)
>half the weapons aren't viable
>half the builds are shit
>pvp is terrible and you can accidentally fuck yourself out of pvp by killing an enemy in the few areas that even allow it
>coop is retarded casual memefest especially chalice dungeons
>grinding chalice dungeons for proper gems is just suffering, no guaranteed drops or anything, if you're trying to make a specific build
>can't transfer items between characters
>NG+ is uninspired, no new items or anything
>most of the cool weapons you get either too late in the game or literally at the fucking end unless you get them in chalice dungeons (blades of mercy for example)
>brainsuckers exist, insight draining
>insight mechanic in general is shit
>tons of missable NPCs and story translations lost that make no sense
i'm just nitpicking at this point but the game really is fucking casual and easy compared to harder titles in the series where you can't, you know, just roll away more than half a dozen times on base stamina and spamheal

>High Art
Pathologic, The Void

>Mid Art
Silent Hill 2, Shadow of the Colossus, Bloodborne, Majora's Mask

>Low Art (arguably not even art)
Devil May Cry, The Last of Us, God of War, Red Dead Redemption, Grand Theft Auto

honestly yes, people who hate on it are usually just bad or pc gamers

I wouldn't go nearly as far. It's probably the game of the generation, though.

In regards to writing, though. It is probably one of the greatest ever.

>writing
the game barely has any story
item descriptions and vague cutscenes
and all it does is rip off The Shadow over Innsmouth

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YAAAAS

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>no blocking or poise so its literally just mash R1
All souls games rely on R1 as the most effective means of dealing damage. It's comical how you Soulstards never see this.
>a bunch of bosses can be cheesed
Only if you look up the cheeses.
>best areas are too short and small (Cainhurst)
>worst areas are too big and stupid (Nightmare of Mensis)
Elementary tier analysis.
>half the weapons aren't viable
Blatantly false. Every weapon is effective and viable. It's one of the stronger points in BB, whereas in souls you'll have endless amount of garbage weapons with shit scaling/damage. Not only that, but all the weapons are unique, save from the two saws. In Souls, each weapon class shares copy pasted movesets, prioritizing only the ones with the best scaling and damage, an illusion for weapon variety.
>pvp is terrible and you can accidentally fuck yourself out of pvp by killing an enemy in the few areas that even allow it
PvP has been objectively terrible in every Souls game, true.
>grinding chalice dungeons for proper gems is just suffering, no guaranteed drops or anything, if you're trying to make a specific build
For BLT or arc builds, it's easy to gain efficient gems.
>can't transfer items between characters
This has never been a feature in any Souls game. What a retarded nitpick. This can make PvP horrendous, as early game players already have powerful weapons at their disposal. Also, that would trivialize other runs.
>most of the cool weapons you get either too late in the game or literally at the fucking end unless you get them in chalice dungeons (blades of mercy for example)
False depths exist. You can get any weapon in the base game by just killing BSB.
>brainsuckers exist, insight draining
Git gud. World difficulty is a good thing.
>insight mechanic in general is shit
No explanation?
>tons of missable NPCs and story translations lost that make no sense
The only instance of wrong translations is the name for one item in the game.

i mean it's okay that you haven't read it, no one who thinks BB has good writing has, but you really should check it out just for the context
dont get me wrong i still like bb and its atmosphere is great but if anything its LACK of writing is what makes it strong, most of the narrative is driven by the player's confusion as to what's real, what isn't, what is the hunt, what are the beasts, what the fuck is paleblood, etc...when the game actually tries to explain any of this shit, it gets bogged down in its own stupidity (moon presence ending / mergo / 1/3rd umbilical cord etc)

the writing and lore is still fucking amazing, it's just a non standard way of storytelling which honestly makes more sense in a videogame than 40 minute cutscenes full of exposition or even just scripted events...

>all it does is rip off The Shadow over Innsmouth
lmao. It lacks, you know, the river that gives Innsmouth its name, no gold refinery, no converted church, no Devil's Reef equivalent. Have you ever actually read Lovecraft or do you just absorb pop culture memes? The Hamlet is only a reference to Innsmouth in that it's a surface level nasty town with fish stuff, it really has very little else tying it to Innsmouth.

>>a bunch of bosses can be cheesed
>Only if you look up the cheeses.
Not him but I find it hard to believe that no one would decide to just 'try' fire paper / or molotovs or saw weapons on beasts.
Also yes idk what he's talking about with weapons not being viable, almost all of them are - the reason being there are less weapons than most souls games (Especially 2), but the fewer weapons is better because i'd rather have 12 good weapons than 60 that suck.
I'm surprised he didnt complain about hunters tools / spells/magic because I feel like they come in late and are relatively underwhelming compared to magic/faith stuff in souls games
The only real problem with BB is the loading screens which got better when I moved the game onto an SSD but it is still stupid to have to like, warp to hunters dream to warp to anywhere else. At least in DS3 you can warp to any bonfire from any bonfire. But thats just one small thing. Game is great.

>"non-standard"
>has been standard since daggerfall
>is used even in random indie shit like brigador

>Not him but I find it hard to believe that no one would decide to just 'try' fire paper / or molotovs or saw weapons on beasts.
thats not cheese tho
a cheese would be somthing like using the bowblade on laurence or the shamans bone blade on the whales to get the rakuyo

Maybe you fucking suck and should play the game properly. Observe the enemy and react accordingly and stop fumbling with your controls.

If anyone in this thread has played videogames for more than 500 hours of their life, and cannot beat BB or any of the souls games you need to re evaulate what you're doing wrong because you're wasting your time currently.

HP Lovecraft was pretty racist, user.

and thats a good thing!

It's still nonstandard in AAA games, though

One of the best decade without question, just started playing it again. My perfect videogame would be a Bloodborne remaster with a reworked story. It's solid enough to work with it's narrative in the final game but when you dig deeper its apparant the story is a cobbled together mess of half finished and ouright dropped ideas due to time constraints

being used in random obscure games doesn't make it standard and having similar way of presenting the lore doesn't make it as good as bloodborne's + the game is really top tier in every aspect

Top 5 ever.

It's not even the best game of gen 8

Not like there's much competition, 2010s was mostly garbage

It's definitely in top 5 of all time.

One of the only games I can think of that is masterful at nearly every aspect.

Lore/Setting/World building? Check, very fucking compelling.
Gameplay/Combat? Check, infact the best so far for From's games as it has all sorts of shit DaS3 was missing like backstep R2's and other weird semi hidden tech
Graphics? Pretty damn good considering From's games actually push alot of shit to the limit in terms of lack of culling due to the heavy multiplayer aspect (distant enemies and buildings and geometry and collisions HAVE to be accounted for even if you're not near it for the potential of a cooper/invader to be there interacting in that area)

Sound design, sound track? Fucking best without a doubt that I can think of this gen nothing even comes close.

It really honestly aimed for what it aimed for, and nailed it. Chalices were From' fucking around for extra time and they're still pretty great honestly just a Kings Field mode added to the game.

I actually enjoyed ds3 much more. Enough to finish it.

Every time i replay BB I always stop around forbidden forest. MN > ROM > Reborn.

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t. filtered by Rom

>I used R1 button only on Saw Cleaver and got beat by Shadows of Yarnham so the game isn't enjoyable

Of course DaS3 would be more your speed

How does Bloodborne call out anything exactly?
Is it the old guy who basically pimps out his living sex doll?
Is it the weird violent foreigner who dresses up in feathers and practices barbaric rituals?
Is it the brothel in Cathedral Ward?
What exactly are we talking about here?

not even best game in its own year. pathetic.

You faggots come out of the woodwork every time. Is it too hard to grasp that ds3 on a computer at 60 fps is a much better than bloodborne? I like the theme also bettter and guess what it's a valid point so suck it.

dark souls is the force awakens of dark souls, mindless fanservice call backs every couple of minutes, without adding anything new, the only good part was the dlc and bloodborne's dlc shit's on it too

Liking Dark Souls 3 over BB (or Dark Souls, for that matter) is a brainlet opinion. You're entitled to it, but there's really no way anyone could argue DaS3 is better than either of those games beyond streamlining the gameplay, and even that's pretty subjective.

Carry on, though.

the fuck is mn?

>Bad bosses (Micolash, Amydgala)
>Micolash
>Bad boss
Kill yourself my man

mergos nurse

excuse me but dark souls 2 is the best one in terms of lore and replay ability

MY GUIDING MOONLIGHT
MY TRUE MENTOR

Yes. It is greatest game ever made.

Its a solid game like Dark Souls but no, its not the greatest game ever and not very close either.

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Faggot detected

This is a perfect game, prove me wrong

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hidden gem.

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"Bloodborne is the best game ever" uhh sorry

Game of the generation no doubt. Maybe even the decade.

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Yes

MY FIRST ARPG

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Even from the cinematography alone you can tell BB is the better of the two

Every time I try to replay it, the shit performance puts me off.

I'm not enough of a veteran to comment on all of those, but
>Hyper Light Drifter
Opinion discarded. That game was childishly simple and shallow. Level design was decent at best, didn't have the polish and deep connection to the fight mechanics necessary to be a 10/10

holy shit lol

ORCT2 is better :^^^)