They're going to destroy...the last thing I cherish about the franchise

>The mouse always gets what he wants.
What the mouse wants...The mouse gets...

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>a cis lord?

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He didn't get people to like Rey or watch Solo

they did
and then the new trilogy has had mixed reviews at best, so they're dipping into the well and making Kotor canon again, but only the botched version I'm sure D&D are going to give us in trilogy form

bro shut the fuck up. dont fucking quote me just to say same you faggot

>Based Warner tricked Disney into buying a cat in a bag by hiring the GoT directors that are being outed as confirmed hacks to direct one of their biggest acquired IPs.

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Hope youre all ready.

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are they really spreading the first game across three movies?
I figured they would use both 1 and 2

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last two digits are the Metacritic rating

Implying anything of that level and scope is going to need three or less movies is borderline arrogant. Pacing is a real fucking issue that needs to be addressed and KOTOR has enough content to keep these people rolling in cash.

I never understood why people can't take the time to just -- CHILL, CHEW AND DIGEST!

inaccurate. there needs to be one unattractive white woman with neon hair, and one fat female chink.

>Force Awakens comes out
>Rey is obviously meant to be the "strong independent woman" version of Revan
>The First Order obviously got all their ships via the star forge
It's sad that my shitty copy/paste headcanon was better than what we actually got. Now they're going to properly ruin KOTOR. God I fucking hate Disney

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>hk 47 will have black female programming
>instead of insulting humans and calling them meat bags, she will insult whites and men, particularly white men, and call them shitlords and manbabies
>revan is an indian or south east asian female
>carth is black
>bastilla is a black lesbian

>k***hts of the old WEpublic

The Mouse gave the guys who botched Game of Thrones their own Star Wars trilogy. That and Rian Johnson still has his own trilogy that will be trash. Lucasfilm post buyout is a giant dumpster fire.

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Tbh Carth was pretty fucking annoying as it was despite being white.

What the fuck did you expect from Disney? Did you actually expect anything to be good? The old content isn't affected if you ignore everything Disney makes.

>pic
The same people bitching about 'Wow Cool Dragon lady' going full 1488 are the same people who mocked those that felt that Rian ruined Luke. Fuck them all.

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>TORtanic: the movie

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So this is why they nuked the expanded universe. Not because they thought it was in the way, but they wanted an excuse to readapt all that material into their shitty movies.
I should've realized that when Admiral Thrawn was reintroduced in the series.

We expected okay, not "Oh god maybe George Lucas wasn't so bad afterall" bad.

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Shit dude, Chris Avellon who wrote KOTOR 2 fucking hated Star Wars and it's probably my most favorite game of the franchise to date.

I thought it was just malice that inspired this but...

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Ep 7: The Force Plays It Safe wasn't that bad and Rogue One was okay. The Last Jedi was the last Disney movie I'll ever watch.

>i cant like old thing because they made a new thing
pathetic, i bet some of you retards stopped liking fallout 1 because fallout 3 and 4 were made.

>Not because they thought it was in the way
1) it was exactly that.
2) the legends shit is reserved rainy days for the franchise.

Disney hasn't accepted it fully yet, but they've learned who buys the same merch in sets of threes, and who the coat tail riding casuals are who won't even buy a god damn funkopop.

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EP 7 ain't bad if you conveniently ignore they took a giant shit on the accomplishments of the heroes from the original trilogy.

at least kyle katarn will always be safe. the shitty disney movies completely destroyed the possibility of the dark forces/jedi knight series being worked in to disney's shitty canon. Unless they just completely go around the story of kyle stealing the deathstar plans and working with luke as a jedi.

>they might actually make TOR look good by comparison

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we love old thing and don't want Disney to "New Thing" the fuck out of Kotor. You ruined the Skywalkers Disney. What more do you want?

Star Wars hasn't been even remotely good since the original trilogy. All extended universe shit is lame, all the games suck. It's a 40 year franchise that hasn't managed to spawn more than 3 good films

Where are you hiding Walt's Cryo pod you fucking trannies?

George Lucas ruined the original Star Wars movies in those special editions. It wasn't George who made the original trilogy good, it was the editors.
When the crew saw George Lucas' original vision before it was saved by the editors, the crew all cringed and asked questions like "wtf did i just watch? it doesn't make sense!"

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They'll just make it another "Takes place between Episodes 3 & 4:" like most of the trash they've been making.

But the original trilogy was trash.
Only Episode 1 and 3 were good, the rest is all shit.

its going to sink at the box office, thats for sure.

I dunno, Revan and Malak are the strongest characters in the mobile game right now.

What, are they gonna cover every stupid side quest? You're fucking retarded if you think the main plot needs a whole fucking trilogy.

>He cannot kill what won’t have sex with him, and power made him an incel long ago.

Well, they never explicitly stated it tonbe noncanon, theu basically just said "well MAYBE this stuff happened" instead of calling it canon, so when their creatively bankrupt monkies in the work room get desperate, they have well regarded content to steal.

>With Stanry Ru managing Rotten Tomatoes reviews.
>You reave twenty percent? DING DONG BANNU!

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They already did that with Tortanic.

and? how the fuck does them making a movie ruin the video game? are they changing all your memories of the video game? are they wiping the game from existence and replacing it with a game based on the movie? no, they are making a movie that you can completely ignore and continue to enjoy the game. god you are such a fucking insufferable nigger. i hope you get alzheimers, forget the game, watch the movie, forget it was a movie and think it was the game and spend the rest of your miserable life believing that the game was shit.

NOW HEAR THIS

>Disney literally goes out of their way to claim that everything before the Nu-Star Wars shit is non-canon and effectively doesn't exist
>Now they're backpedaling super fucking hard because of how fucking ruined Star Wars is now that they're reaching back and taking shit people liked from the past and trying to put their own new spin on it

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except a good writer for star wars

Imagine caring about Star Wars. It's literally McDonald's tier space opera. It's not even sci fi.

Isn't the main problem that they have some dumb bitch as head of the Star Wars division that literally doesn't know what she's doing

Why not? I could make an entire movie off the events in the Endar Spire + Taris in one movie. Give the Rakghoul angle, we got a horror theme in the sewers. Have Revan humorously fail in the Upper City duels as the Mysterious Stranger just to raise cash for supplies in the Under City with Carth, Mission and Zalbaar watching from the side lines. The Swoop Races, interactions with Canderous and the Exchange.

The problem only lies with people without vision or imagination not driving the helm.

From the guys that destroyed Game of Thrones, good luck with that.

the problem is disney are jews and jews have no creativity or soul

>how the fuck does them making a movie ruin the video game?
I thought the same thing about the OT with the prequels and now the sequels, but some how and some way, Disney found a way to ruin even that for me. A remarkable fucking feat really.
>are they wiping the game from existence and replacing it with a game based on the movie?
You literally say this as if they didn't literally just scrap the EU. Heir to the Empire and Shadows were literally approved by Lucas himself. They'll probably make it harder to even find the games because Disney wouldn't want their movie being compared to a video game just like they don't want their sequels compared to the OT they fucking ripped off at every beat. Spare me your dumb shit.

Nobody would want to watch a movie about all that shit.

>They're going to destroy...the last thing I cherish about the franchise
TOR already did this.

>Nobody would want to watch a movie about all that shit

Yet they pay for the game to go about it how many other ways and methodologies. I'm saying it can be done and it was half the charm of it's concepts. Yet you want -- ...what exactly?

Need i remind you that TFA made 2 billion by literally copying the ANH?

Would 2 translate well to film? Not to imply 1 would, but 2 seems like it would be impossible.

they wanted nintendo. the plumer told the mouse to go fuck hinself

KOTOR 2 is almost philosophy porn. It'd be a challenge. Like an actual challenge not just for the creators but also for the audience who have about as much attention span as "OOOO GRAPHICS."

Games and movies are completely different mediums.
I don't see what that has to do with anything.

it only seems impossible because you're trying to think of a way to make it correctly

This user speaks the truth.

Editors were the unsung heroes of star wars.

But it bottles down to experience. Sure you don't get the same experience, on either spectrum, but they are each unique if performed correctly.

What should movie should I watch before bed tonight? Been watching Clone Wars cartoon again but burnt out right now and need something else.

>Ep 7: The Force Plays It Safe wasn't that bad
You're the worst. If I only insult one person today, it's going to be you, you drooling mud-for-brains turd-munching neanderthal.
Take it back.
I want you to take back what you just said. I'm not allowing it.

Fake Disney shill. You all gave up on /sw/, yet you still try and subvert here?

It's pretty well documented.

1 would since it's like taking a normal star wars movie and swapping in kotor names.

Kotor would have to be written by someone who hates Star Wars.

youtube.com/watch?v=GFMyMxMYDNk give this a watch, user

fucking hell.
disney's gotta make sure its terrible shit is completely all over star wars.

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CAST IT

Revan -
Bastilla -
Carth Onasi -
Canderous Ordo -
Mission Vao -
Jolee Bindo -
Juhani -
HK-47 -

Darth Malak -
Darth Bandon -
Admiral Saul Karath -
Trask Ulgo -
Calo Nord -
The Exile (in flashbacks) -
Vrook Lamar (assuming Ed Asner doesn't want to play him) -

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>Chris Avellon who wrote KOTOR 2 fucking hated Star Wars
He didn't hate Star Wars. He's more like how Alan Moore relates to superheroes - deeply in love with the idea but extremely bitter in how he sees everyone else wasting the concept.

I say this with 100% unironic sincerity to you and anyone reading this: move on. It's highly likely Star Wars will not be good again in our lifetimes. There is hundreds of fantasy/sci-fi adventures out there—games, books or otherwise—that are more deserving of attention than the current state of Star Wars. If you need direction, give Dune a try if you haven't. It has a whole saga of books and a new movie is coming out soon. Do yourself a favor and forget about Star Wars.

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Recommend a movie senpai

>Carth Onasi
Ryan Gosling

>scrapping and decanonizing lore is the same deleting something existence and replacing it
wrong. the old movies are still there, the old books are still there, the old comics are still there, you can still go view and enjoy everything you like while ignoring the new gay shit you dont like. or you can do the opposite and be a dumb gay retard. now you can say star wars in general sucks now because the new lore is shit and that makes sense but saying the old movies are ruined because the new movies suck is retarded.
>disney found a way to ruin that
wrong again. you ruined it for yourself by not being able enjoy and hate things separately. fallout 3/4/76 didnt ruin fallout 1/2, new hellboy movie didnt ruin the hellboy comics, berserk 2016/17 anime didnt ruin the manga, avatar movie didnt ruin the cartoon, newer avatar cartoon didnt ruin the old avatar cartoon, will smith's performance as the genie in aladdin doesnt ruin robin williams performance. if something new and bad coming out ruins something old and good for you then you're just 100% a nigger faggot.

>Bastilla
Kate Beckingsale

Revan - Keanu Reeves
Bastilla - Karen Gillan
Carth Onasi - Armie Hammer

I dunno about the rest.

it's a hard pill to swallow, but I'll try, user

not that guy but I'm pretty tired of basically everything new being so shitty

>Hollywood fucks rub their hands at the last bastion of genuine good writing
>They walk into the studio, watch their garbage KOTOR film with gleeful delight only for when the lights come on to see George Lucas sitting there looking at them one by one as if his god has left this world, abandoned for their misdeeds
>"Is it as you expected? This is all that is left. An empty theater and the promise of what might have been."
>"All you have done has crippled my legacy, perhaps destroyed it. But before you enjoy this victory, there are things we must discuss first."
>8 Minutes of Kreia-tier rant
>Lucas gets out the glock and aims at the hollywood fucks
>"But THIS MOMENT WAS ALL THAT MATTERED! It was never my wish to see them in anguish, only to see it's potential realized! Even as they would not accept me."
>"I would have hoped you'd learn something from your failings. Not just of concepts, but of lore, and your own faults as creators."
>"You must understand, I never wanted my fans to feel dead inside. Defeated perhaps, I merely wished for them to see, that they and their expectations were WRONG! That one could not inspire vision, solely based on interpretation rather than intention!"
>"All I have ever created for them have been failures. CGI that was out of place. Lore underdrafted. Dedicated fans who discard everything out of pride!"
>"To finally have a creation I can fix, to take pride in -- that is a moment I will never forget. To create perfection...THAT WAS MY HOPE!"
>"You have failed me, completely and utterly."
>"I have given you what I treasured most. Gave you the hearts and dedication of years of work and YOU STILL managed to ruin it."
>"This is what you have wrought, despair, anger, malice as borne from the WRONG CREATIONS!"
>"You have not learned from my mistakes, and for all the ones you've made, you never learned to listen."
>George Lucas shoots all the con artists in the theater, tosses the gun off to the side bitterly as he walks away out the door.

>Cherishing a mediocre game with an unfinished sequel
Ok, you do that, at least Jedi Academy is safe.

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They can't ruin Republic Commando, if there's no sequel.....

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youtu.be/jv9sDn_2XkI

I didn't even play KOTOR yet I am already feel the pain. I truly feel sorry if your a fan of this series.

You're not going to find a sci-fi / fantasy movie saga with as much content and love as Star Wars or Lord of the Rings if that's what you're looking for. They just don't catch on as hard as games and books do. (I don't count super hero films in the same vain) There is tons of solo movies though that find success like Pan’s Labyrinth and a lot of different anime films.

To be fair it wasn't that hard considering Disney seems to exclusively hire hacks and the few competent people they have were just left overs

>taking shit people liked from the past and trying to put their own spin on it
>by doing so, they will retroactively ruin the old stuff, and make everything worse

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revan - arabic ftm transsexual
bastilla - black mtf transsexual
carth onasi - woke hippy
canderous ordo - hardcore anti-racist warrior
mission vao - 43 year old actor from that one movie who regularly smokes 3 packs a day and has a raspy voice and wears a diaper
jolee bindo - proud Wakandan avatar of power
juhani - over-the-hill alcoholic with a slur and thisp
hk-47 - a total badass for about three seconds of screen time who'll say something witty and then be put in the back-burner as the plot thickens

darth malak - angry white man who usually watches youtube videos about school shootings and regularly plays CoD
darth bandon - a literal who actor that shows his face on that picture up there somewhere in that building over there
Admiral Saul Karath - ahem, I think you mean, Admiral Saula Karath, the proud independent black woman who got her career without affirmative action, thank you very fucking much
trask ulgo - fat ugly white man who hates himself and has scars up and down his arms and neck indicating the visually common attempts at suicide, and constantly horribly failing at that.
calo nord - skinny black guy with a calculator who lives and is actually the real messiah of the entire plot
the exile - some disgusting drunk man who masturbated over everything and was abusive towards fellow female employees
vrook lamar - hostile fat white man who trips while talking

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OP here.

FUCK -- THAT. I refuse to have what I care about taken from me.

>Disney is so big they will never be able to fail ever again.
If we ever go spacefairing, Disney's tentacles will be there.

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Fuck you George, you sold out and now we are left in ruins

DONT REMIND THEM THAT EXISTS

I heard that the way they readapted Thrawn into the Canon was fine, but he didn't really do much in Rebels.

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You were already in ruins and Rogue One is literally better than the entirety of the 3 prequel films, fight me.

well seeing how the last two star wars movies went along with the description of the new one already showing its likely going to be shit, its a safe bet to say this movie trilogy will also be shit

i give your bait a 3/10

Still not going to Watch your movie Disney. Sorry not sorry.

>thinks it's bait
MEESA THINK YOU HAD ONE TOO MANY BANTHA POODOOS TO THE BRAIN BOY

yeah of course it's going to be shit, i didnt say it was going to be good.
i am the same.
>s-shill
seething

He sold out before the prequels, before the special editions. Disney just made star wars worse than the prequels, so the sting is stronger than usual.
It's not even fun to quote ST, like PT, there's no background stuff worth visiting like the clone wars, either.

Isn't Malak basically Just Kylo Ren? He's basically an idiot brute living in the shadow of someone far superior to him.

Cope in your fucking rat hole you abysmal rodent.

user they will just do a shitty remake and turn that neat cameo they had in the TCW to an abomination

I don't think i'll ever understand the star wars obsession

People pining for "Greedo shot first" man are myopic. Disney is soulless but George Lucas is both soulless and talentless. Is it any wonder he didn't actually direct the best film in the original trilogy?

>Canderous Ordo
Batista
>Mission Vao
Girl from Little
>Juhani
Milla Jovovich
>Calo Nord
an actor we haven't seen before, or else GoT midget
>Revan
Keanu Reeves

The robot is the only good thing I remember, and the disappointment of Mads being wasted in this film.

lol mad as fuck

>They're going to destroy...the last thing I cherish about the franchise

I see you forgot about TOR

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Keannu Reeves has to be Revan.

>793▶
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HAVE SEX

it always baffles me how Diseny managed to fuck up so badly they made people like the Prequels in comparison, are normies such a drone like force that they give money to people who fuck up that badly

lose weight femcel

The prequels themselves were aids but gave us the great setting. The prequel/Anakin story could have been salvaged with fairly minor changes and scrapping the phantom menace entirely.

>wojack
You sure showed him with your facebook response!

+1 Like!

Mads was wasted, I'll give you that. I just like how everyone dies in the end and it ties into a previously established storyline which helps erase that Disney fanfic vibe the mainline movies suffer from.

What's wrong with what I said? Both Malak and Kylo are retards wasting the massive resources they've been left by their masters.

Most people have shit taste and like nuWars because they have shit taste. Remember that Avengers is the top movie of all time.

No fucking shit I'm mad. Disney just couldn't be contempt ruining the mainline movies so they decide to come after KOTOR? Maybe this is what Rian Johnson was referring about to when he said there would be consequences.

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>Avengers is the top movie of all time
Not if you go by tickets sold instead of dollars earned.

Not only this, but if you control for population growth it gets even worse. Literally nothing will touch Gone With The Wind. Not even Titanic could do it.

yup someone is absolutely fuming

Mark Strong as Darth Malak

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Revan - Fassbender
Bastilla - Kate Beckinsale
Carth Onasi -
Canderous Ordo - Manu Bennet
Mission Vao -
Jolee Bindo - Denzel
Juhani - Gamora actress
HK-47 - original VA

Darth Malak -
Darth Bandon - Tom Hardy
Admiral Saul Karath -
Trask Ulgo -
Calo Nord -

Who was/is your Revan?

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Second last column, middle row.

Second to last, full light side but ended evil because dark Bastilla make my penis twitch.

>all of these big named actors who probably turn their nose at a Star Wars script.
Not to mention too hot and white and experienced in the merch hustle. Disney would never hire any of your suggestions just out of the merch stake alone. Easier to get a literal who tv actor who will work for chump change just get their name out there and sign their likeness away.

this is probably the most accurate .

>they're going to ruin Sheev, after he made it out safely in the prequels.
This is why we needed Snoke, why he needed some background story, some focus, now we're in the last film of a Trilogy and we don't know whats the goal for anything still and there's not even a main bad guy because the Knights of Ren haven't been explored at all, kylo is flip flopping every 5 seconds on whether he's good or bad, even though he's irredeemable after killing his father, trying to kill his mother, and trying to kill Luke, granted with some justification on that one, even if it's retarded justification. So what do they do? Dig up another character from the past to ruin it, making the OT pointless. muh "let the past go, kill it if you have too" while rehashing the OT because they can't figure out anything new that's good.

>don't know how first order got this op
>don't know why they do what they do
>why they want luke
>who Snoke is
>why was Snoke important and then he wasnt
>don't know why the resistance is the resistance
>why they're a resistance and not rebels
>don't know why no one is helping the resistance, but muh casino rich people fund wars.
>first two movies take place in like a week or two

>force was space magic and space faith
>then force was midichlorians
>now force is super power, and everyone has these super powers, they don't even have to believe or learn, or have a high midichlorian count, you just have it, like a filthy mutie.

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ST just needs to be completely retconned. at least partially, but completely would be better.

They're literally going to redo the whole plot of 1 and change everything. Calling it now.

They don't like Star Wars, they've never read or played any of the expanded universe, why would they?

what did i say was wrong?

>battlefront 2 still doesn't have Conquest, something the original battlefronts copied from Battlefield, you know THE Conquest focused franchise.
>still doesn't have AI Galactic Assault or Capital Supremacy
>heroes and special infantry make regular infantry useless
>still no Eras specific Playlists
>still no vehicles only, special infantry only modes, like heroes vs villains
>no online coop in the current year of our lord: 2019
>still no Coruscant, jedi temple, Felusia, corellia, utapu
But here's the awful not hoth, here's hoth again, not tattoine again but worse, Jabbas palace again, endor again but worse, the awful maz kanada map, cloud city again but worse.
>can only use naboo starfighters in 1 map, and in 1 game mode, and the map rotation is always avoid this map.
>still no Republic Commando or droidekas special infantry, but here's two super battle Droids and two Chewbacca and the much beloved bossk, versio and finn, over Padme, Poe, Rex, Ahsoka, Ventress, cad bane, k-2so
>no Jango fett skin for boba
>garbage ST maps, specially crait
>no drop zone mode
>no lightsabers heroes only and gunners only heroes vs villains mode.
>no regular white phase 1 clone skin.

What are some other sci-fi stories or games that utilize spiritual magic?
Maybe I need to lurk but I just want to find something to get that creative sci fi itch scratched.

Space Fantasy is a pretty dead genre, its heyday was in the 1920's.

They got fucking Liam Neeson, Samuel L. Jackson and Christopher Lee for the prequels, user. Star Wars has appeal to anyone, not just "literal whos". Hell, George got multiple acclaimed actors to play in the OT before he even had a reputation.

the prequels are what poisoned the well to begin with.

Why are they trying so hard to destroy Star Wars anyway?

Shouldn't this be "Kangz of the Old Republic".

No the special editions did.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.Y.E.:_Divine_Cybermancy

that's it
there's no Star Wars competitor

Fuck

They aren't trying to destroy it, they're using it as a vehicle for propaganda and as a voodoo doll to prove some points

and that was before they knew how shit the prequels would be and the fucking drama the sequels seem to provide even if they're just nontroversies. Disney will choose the most plane actor/actress for Bastila and Revan. You fucking know this.

>They're going to destroy...the last thing I cherish about the franchise.
Just don't watch it.

>"It's just Auschwitz. Ignore it bro,"

I swear I got monkey pawed
>Always wanted an Old Republic movie or series
>It's happening but with hacks from the most over rated tv show ever and fucking Disney at the helm

The more you peddle this nonsense, the worse Star Wars is gonna get.

Had you Plinket retards not pushed your stupid antiPrequel memes and hate, George never would have sold SW to Disney, and the EU would still be intact, we’d be getting tons of games made by more publishers than just EA, and the sequels wouldn’t have been soulless trash.

This is all you faggots’ fault. I actually enjoyed the prequels, having grown up with them. Fuck all of you.

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5 was GOAT
3 was great
4 was good
1 and 6 were flawed but good
2 was ok

Handpicked by George too. No doubt this was intentional. He must have known she was a power-crazy feminist who’d run it all to the ground.

Warhammer 40k, I think

Big Bang Theory?

>Poorly coded lightsaber

I'm going to cum in your mom. It's just a baby, bro.

>D&D gets fired by Kathleen over creative differences
how would you react?

Alright, predict the lore fuck ups/"retcons" they are going to do.

Prequels were never unanimously hated. It was always split, and the people who grew up with them are now voicing their opinions to counter the Reddit Letter Media narrative.

are clonewars/rebels worth watching?

Dune is like the great grandaddy of it all.

>

At most, I can say the general thought was one of a mixed opinion. Clone Wars setting is what drew people in and spawned a lot of great side material including video games. It's a shame only RoTS uses the Clone Wars to its' advantage.

I don’t even care. This is big budget fanfiction.

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HK-47 is voiced by Sheldon and isn't a assassin. Literally just Bender.

Is he even working on the films he said he wanted to after selling Star Wars? I want to see more shit like THX 1338

It isn't hard to make a Star Wars ripoff
It's just that no one ever has tried.

Miss me yet?

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>they wanted nintendo
source?

>literally tricked disney into buying damaged goods
based

I've never watched any Star Wars film all the way through
I only care about extended universe, which he isn't responsible for directly

buzzcut goatee man is the goat suck my dick

George’s target audience for those films (kids who were born in the 90s) never had any issues with the prequels. Growing up, the Star Wars fever was crazy, and everyone loved Episode 3 when it hit theaters.

I personally never heard of any Prequel hate till like the late 2000s early 2010 when internet critics started to nitpick at the films. And my reaction was generally “ok, I agree but I still like them.”

And now the narrative is changing. Now that we have ACTUAL trash films to compare the prequels to, the strengths of those films really shine, and all the people who never hated then are voicing their opinions

yes

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It'd be at the bare minimum a Fight Club level film, and that sort hasn't been made in 20 years

Thoroughly. I wish he’d never sold to Disney.

PRetty much all of this. I still have no idea who Snoke is or why I should care. He makes Sidious look like a fleshed out character.

bad meme
star wars already has a good philosophical base with the sith and jedi codes, and a good mechanical basis with the current force powers and technology

a star wars hater would be a disaster like a halo hater, someone who just brings in stuff from other franchises and steamrolls the identity it already possessed

>who Snoke is
he was essentially Plagueis

I mean objectively speaking the prequels were far worse movies then the OT, but at least they still had a bit of soul amongst all that green screen CGI thanks to crazy old man Lucas's unfiltered vision of B-grade science fiction.

I miss him and the rest of the stellar creative team from the original trilogy.

>Minnie has both the swirly hair things and the ears

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>someone who just brings in stuff from other franchises and steamrolls the identity it already possessed
So....

JJ Abrams and Ryan Johnson?

To this day I don't get the point of Canto Blight. Like, ok, there are companies selling ships to both sides of this war... wouldn't that imply that both the First Order and the "Resistance" are being played like fiddles? Wouldn't investors want to keep the war going as long as possible? Then why would they allow for Starkiller base to be a thing? Wasn't the First Order's goal to re-establish the Empire? If so, then why would weapon dealers also invest in the republic if they found the Empire to be more desirable?

Plagueis would feel a lightsaber being manipulated by the force mere centimeters from him.

Chris Avellone is worse than D&D and literally admitted to hating SW

Trump actually. Gold fetish attire and whatnot.

>Star Wars
>"subverted your expectations"

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Canto blight is more of LOOK AT THEM EVIL WEAPONS SELLING CAPITALIST ABUSING ANIMALS and oh support disney

Let the past die, kill it if you have to.

shut up. I like that book, please don't try and let disney ruin that too. I really don't want disney to start taking books and games to bastardize.

>I mean objectively speaking the prequels were far worse movies then the OT,
Growing up, no one ever said the prequels were better than the OT. But they also never shit on them. They were well liked, and treated like a separate extension of what Star Wars is. It’s thanks to the prequels that the EU grew into what it was, producing awesome stuff like Clone Wars, and KOTOR. Prequels was an expansion on all the Jedi stuff. Which was never looked down on. OT was still loved too, but seen as a different side of SW.

At worst all you got was people saying that 3 was better than 6.

>but at least they still had a bit of soul amongst all that green screen CGI thanks to crazy old man Lucas's unfiltered vision of B-grade science fiction.
I mean, I get what you’re saying, but tossing CGI in there as some sort of insult is a great disservice to the fact that Lucas literally pioneered that shit. Prior to the Prequels CGI that good was not possible. Ofc he was gonna use a lot of it as he literally invented the modern use. That was a huge risk in and of itself, and it deserves massive praise and not scorn.

Everyone always overlooks that very important fact when they throw shade at Lucas for CGI.

Snoke actually felt the lightsaber and described in detail what was happening, it just that he's so arrogant he closed his eyes and assumed the lightsaber could never be pointed at him
cliche way to die but RJ wanted to get rid of him

> Which was never looked down on
because no one actually cared besides hardcore SW fans. When I first heard of the dark force supernova I just rolled my eyes at the fanfiction tier writing that surely plagues the EU

why does he look like that? does he have aids or cancer?

the phantom menace is kino wtf

t. zoomer

How are they going to get across the point that Kreia hates the force not for what people do with it, but for what it does with people? Your average starwars viewer isn't too bright.

Not JJ and those producers, definitely Rian's crew though

The only things the Phantom menace did well was the first scene on the Trade Federation ship, the rescue from Theed, the final battle with the gungans and the Battle droids and Maul's battle.

>goofy is darth
>donald is just a storm trooper

Its like disney doesn't even know its own characters.

Kylo Ren is a bastardization of post-OT comics
Go look at a picture of Plagueis and try and deny that he's Snoke's inspiration again

bald nigga in the middle

>Plagueis would feel a lightsaber being manipulated by the force mere centimeters from him.
You must have not caught that he was wearing a lightsaber magnet vest that Rian wrote for him

Canto makes the first order pointless, Its like you said, it's supposed to be empire 2.0 but they're pretty much just a pawn to space jews, unlike the empire who was above everyone in the galaxy. All that shit about Snoke and power it light and dark, finding Luke, kylo Ren and his arc, his legacy, aaaaall that shit at the end of the day means nothing because they are all under the thumb of greedy rich people using both sides to make and sell wars. No destiny, no hope, no evil motivations, Canto just confirmed that there will always just be artificial conflict for money, and no cool mysterious organic goal exists.

Being born in 1990 means you’re a Zoomer? I’m probably older than you. You forget that Episode 3 came out in 2005, when I was 15. And Episode 1 in 1999, when I was 9. I was the “target kids” that the movies were made for. I never had any problems with any of them. I watched the OT for the first time when I was 5, and played Shadows on the N64 at the age of 7.

Prequel hate comes from sad fucks who were in their 30s when Episode 1 came out, aka, Red Letter Media. Morons who never seemed to grasp that the Prequels were made for people of my Generation.

I never complained about episode 1, 2, or 3.

The people who complained about star wars are the same people who wanted George to sell to Disney. They're fucking obnoxious faggots who love marvel and furry shit.

odd choice overall but I can see how that's the most sensible black pick

>Prequel hate comes from sad fucks who were in their 30s when Episode 1 came out, aka, Red Letter Media.
Red Letter Media crew is nearing 30?

>i-i-its le plinkets fault people dislike the prequels and George sold out
Oh grow the fuck up. I didn't need a fat man to tell me a bad movie is bad and George selling out because his feelings were hurt is a poor fucking excuse, he just wanted more money and Disney provided it.

>shit movies are ok when they're made for kids

*60
Fuck

Gtfo boomer faggot

Given their appearance they’re definitely older than me, and I’m 28 now. They must be in their late 30s early 40s by now. They have to be if they were adults when the Prequels came out.

>shit
Except their not? Direct your attention to the Sequels if you wanna see what actual shit looks like.

he has the mace windu aesthetic

Clone wars yes (either addition is fine and recommend both though I will admit I found the 2D to be a bit over hyped). For rebels I only recommend watching clips relating to the old characters and maybe a few thrawn scenes that somewhat capture what he was supposed to be like. Other then that, avoid rebels it was not worth a watch and don't even bother with that wanna be 3D "anime" show they produced.

>unironically calling Disney "the mouse"
Cringe and redditpilled.

*they're
and yes, they're shit on a fundamental level in terms of writing and directing
the dialogue is shit, the characters are shit, the pacing is shit, the action is shit

the original trilogy was also made for kids but that doesn't stop people from cherishing it, because they're genuinely fantastic films

why would capitalists even want child slaves when droids are available, disregarding the ancap meme for a moment children are shitty workers and even if you don't pay them you still have to make sure they have at the very least bare minimum shelter and food. But with driods those costs go way down. Come to think of it, why would Star Wars even have a slave trade when free labor is much more available and less prone to rebellion.

>and yes, they're shit on a fundamental level in terms of writing and directing
the dialogue is shit, the characters are shit, the pacing is shit, the action is shit
Please feel free to elaborate in an objective manner. Bonus points if you manage to not regurgitate any of the stupid shit started by Plinket.

>the original trilogy was also made for kids but that doesn't stop people from cherishing it, because they're genuinely fantastic films
I agree, and agree that the OT is better due to tighter writing. But to slam the prequels for “being childish” while turning a blind eye to how childish the OT can also be is retarded.

If anything, the Prequels are fundamentally darker given the story they’re presenting.

Not tattoine
Not Mos eisley
Not hoth
Not yavin 4
Not death star
Not super star destroyer
Not yoda

Remember Millennium falcon
Old Han
Old Luke
Old Leia
Ghost Yoda
Chewie
Palpatine's corpse
"no one's ever really gone"
You're not fooling anyone, mouse.

At least with slave traders on Tatooine they got the excuse they are on a backwater shit hole, there is no excuse for rich guys.

There's a lot of cool stuff buried in absolute shit. It could be great with extensive curation.

Also, don’t slam me on typos if you can’t even construct proper sentences with correct punctuation you pretentious twat.

>people who wanted George to sell to Disney
No such thing

Looking forward to be subverted even harder then what Rian managed.

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As somebody who knows the bare basics of GoT... is this really how the Night King is defeated?

Even with tatooine the place was littered with droids to the point some midgets could make a successful business off of finding random droids in the desert. Its even worse for the rich guys since they can have access to high quality droids that never break down and just needs sunlight meaning long term savings, yet they choose kids because somebody wanted to push a message. Worse part is Finn and Rose decide to free the animals instead of the kids who have to fix the shit show they caused. Jesus TLJ somehow manages to fuck up on every level I don't even blame Mauler for reeing for three hours at that shit show.

being an inspiration doesn't mean he's the actual character. there's no proof at all he's plagueis so in the end it's just baseless speculation.

I don't know what this means, guessing it's got cause of the ice dude.

Mauler's 3+ hour rant on TLJ is unironically great background noise.

Yes. And his White Walkers just stand next to him not doing anything.

not only that, a few minutes ago he just nonchalantly survived getting blasted with fire by a dragon along with the night king being surrounded by his own minions meaning it should have been impossible for her to even sneak up on him.

I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but the prequels do have problems. jarjar sucks, anakin was too much of a whiny emo, hayden was not a very good actor plus he has some really bad lines, etc. I really wish they made movie anakin more like how he is in the clone wars show.

Imagine if after building up Luke vs Vader for 2 films, Vader gets killed by Chewbacca in the climax of Episode 6 while Luke is off somewhere yelling at Wompas... and that STILL doesn’t even get close to how dumb that ending was.

Who gives a shit? Just don't consume any mainstream media

virtually every single thing is bad with TLJ. that's all there is to it. That shit show really should be declared non canon. Just say it's an alternate timeline or just a dream or something.

Wish he would do less of those streams with the two faggot furries and focus on his long ass critiques by himself or find other people to do streams with who don't critize shit in extremes like "this is the most awful worst thing that has ever existed in the history of humanity and the universe and time and I'm not just saying that" for literally everything.

You're retarded. Episode 1 was almost universally reviled. Then opinions were a little more mixed about episodes 2 and 3 but mostly only liked by young people, idiots, or both.

rent free

Wow

seething

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>jarjar sucks,
How so? He’s meant to be an annoying character. And he disappeared after the 1st film
> anakin was too much of a whiny emo

Makes sense for the sorta guy who’d grow up to be Vader and grew up a child slave.

>hayden was not a very good actor plus he has some really bad lines, etc.
Every scene where he had to act with pure body language was great. Especially in Episode 3. And badass Anakin is plenty present in Episode 3. You only say he’s whiny cause you see him at his emotional lowest points. Like when HIS FUCKING MOTHER DIED, or when he felt the IMPENDING DEATH OF THE LOVE IF HIS LIFE. I think anyone would be “whiny” within those circumstances. And despite that, you still get to see him be a hardy action man here and there. I agree II coulda been better. A lot of complaints about Anakin stem from there.
> I really wish they made movie anakin more like how he is in the clone wars show.
I stopped watching SW anything after TFA, so idk how the new show portrays him but the old cartoon was consistent with his movie version.

As somebody who didn't like the prequels, even I have to agree that Hayden when he is allowed to just emote with his body is fucking kino.

they paid 4 billion shekels for that

>You're retarded. Episode 1 was almost universally reviled.
It wasn’t though. I can go on YT right now and grab interviews from 1999 with people coming out if the theatre saying it was great.
>Then opinions were a little more mixed about episodes 2 and 3 but mostly only liked by young people, idiots, or both.
Wrong again, it was actually 2 that got the most hate out if the trillogy, but 3 got a lot if critical praise from pretty much everyone. People just turned on it after Plinket turned Prequel hate into a meme. Before then, Episode 3 was seen as “the good one” with Episode 1 having more mixed opinions, with people praising the best parts, but not liking the shittier stuff, and 2 being generally disliked.

>defending jar jar
lol

>Makes sense for the sorta guy who’d grow up to be Vader and grew up a child slave.
Or you know, he could act less insufferable and fall to the dark side like parts in the clone wars show.

>You only say he’s whiny cause you see him at his emotional lowest points.
no. maybe you need to go back and watch the prequels again. he was like nonstop whiny emo. when he gets first reintroduced to padme he practically breaks down crying because he thinks she doesn't remember him. go watch that scene. there is a big issue with how childish anakin is.

Oh they likely paid even more when you consider production and advertising costs along with that new theme park they are building. Its not much of a stretch to believe Disney still hasn't made a profit off of star wars when all those factors are combined.

"Win or lose, as long as the fight is worthy, then honor is gained. The glory at having triumphed over impossible odds is what drives us. If there's nothing at stake – your possessions, your life, your world – then the battle's meaningless. We Mandalore take everything we are and throw it into battle. It's the true test of yourself – the battle against death... against oblivion."

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This is why KotOR2 was so good.
You could go deff from all the dick sucking in the first one.

>I actually enjoyed the prequels, having grown up with them
No fucking shit. You liked something as a child and therefore associate the movies with good sentiments. That does not mean that the prequels were well made. The prequels were hated long before Plinkett came around, and that isn't so because of some grand conspiracy. I, too, grew up watching the prequels and enjoyed them, but that does not mean that I delude myself into thinking that they aren't filled with shit. If you actually watched Plinkett, then you'd understand the criticisms leveled against the movies. Liking something as a child is hardly grounds for objective reasoning

Except that Chewie didn't have seasons worth of foreshadowing about killing him.

wait a sec, didn't they say that they would ignore the extended universe?

>They're going to destroy...the last thing I cherish about the franchise
Fuck off, autist. Don't like it, don't watch it.

If the foreshadowing was done while Chewie is in a completely different part of the galaxy, having absolutely no relevance to that plotline. Dan and Dave just decided three season ago that Arya was going to be the one to do it

Star Wars was never good

They say a lot of things

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They did, but they are going to milk it dry because as shit as the EU was, Disney found a way to make their canon even worse which why they are going back to the EU just with their touch to it. I think we all know how that usually goes.

I think I'd say the same about your opinion

James Woods with blue makeup

>>defending jar jar
I’m defending a character who serves his purpose and works as intended. It’s one thing if YOU don’t like him, and you’re free to your opinion, but saying he’s objectively bad is gonna require more than your opinion.

>Or you know, he could act less insufferable and fall to the dark side like parts in the clone wars show.
Complaining that Anakin doesn’t fit your imagined headcanon doesn’t make him a bad character. From an objective critical writing standpoint he’s perfectly consistent with his own character. This isn’t a flaw, it’s another subjective opinion.

>no. maybe you need to go back and watch the prequels again. he was like nonstop whiny Emo
I watch the 6 SW films like every year. Anakin is just fine. Maybe you should do the same, and learn to appreciate the best parts of Anakin’s character and the Prequels, while ALSO seeing that the Originals also aren’t flawless and have just as many silly and dumb moments as the Prequels. Like Han and Chewie running from the storm troopers, or the comically terrible aim of the villains, or the way Storm Troopers get duped in 6, or just anything to do with Ewoks. People seem to think that 5, the darkest film accounts for the whole OT, but 4 and 6 are just as campy and silly as the Prequels.

>when he gets first reintroduced to padme he practically breaks down crying because he thinks she doesn't remember him.
Yes, how is that bad? He’s basically an autistic manchild who grew up a slave and then was forced into the Jedi order. FFS they’re not allowed to love. That’s THE WHOLE POINT OF THE FILMS. That Anakin does not know how to handle his emotions, and was never allowed to properly develop as a human being, and fell in love with a woman who grew up just as fucked up and sheltered as he. How dod you EXPECT him to react? Anything else than awkward wouldn’t have been consistent with his character.

Please tell me D&D is just a rumor.

>If you actually watched Plinkett, then you'd understand the criticisms leveled against the movies.
I have watched Plinket, all he does is spit out subjective reasons for why he doesn’t like them, not give fair objective criticism.

Now you go watch Anomaly Inc and watch him tear Plinket a new asshole for bad criticism.

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They're teaming up with Rian Johnson. They'll fucking gangbang the corpse of whatever star wars project the'll get.

Your own subjective reasons are fucking pathetic, so fuck right off

Is it KOTOR though? i don't want them to touch Force Unleashed either.

it's like whoever drew this cannot imagine Keanu Reeves playing anyone other than John Wick

>Objective criticism
your that guy who wrote a whole 100 pages about "MUH HACK FRAUDS" aren't you?

>i don't want them to touch Force Unleashed either.
Force Unleashed already sucks, there's nowhere to go but up

>a movie based on retconned material
huh?

Man I feel sorry for star wars and marvel fans. Disney is gonna milk them so hard you won't even care anymore.

The Rock as everyone

you forgot will smith somehow showing up

Will Smith only shows up in the mid credits scene

I think they won't follow the games.

What subjective reasons? Are you even capable of critical thought?

No? Care to elaborate?

Necessary sacrifices to hopefully get people to wake up.

At least the anime fandom is fighting back...

I felt bad when they somehow worked time travel into it, even with the shit I am a fan of (Indiana jones, ghostbusters and back to the future) never got as fucked as star wars fags did
glad I never got invested as a kid though.
objective criticism never exists when it comes to narrative, everyone weighs narrative problems to a different level trying to claim you that someone's opinion is shit for being """subjective""" just means your mad they don't agree or are retarded in you cant understand that simple concept

Will Smith has a great Twi'lek face

>Are you even capable of critical thought?
Are you? You enjoyed the prequels because you grew up with them. And what the fuck are you talking about Plinkett being the reason for Lucas selling Star Wars? You realize the prequels were fucking despised YEARS before Plinkett. It's not some controversial thing to dislike them. They were some of the biggest disappointments in cinema history, and that wasn't because of some hack fraud. Plinkett gives plenty of good fucking reasons for why that is. That you have simply decided to write them off because they're "subjective", means jack fucking shit. The prequel hating isn't some conspiracy that you have gleaned

the kotor games already ruined the lore and setting of the Old Republic as detailed in the Tales of the Jedi comics.

Your favourite shit already did this to my favourite shit, and now it's happening to you.

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elaborate

also Yea Forums > Yea Forums

having unlikable characters is a flaw. from whiny angsty teens to complete buffoons. There's a reason why jar jar is universally hated. If you can't see why you're just an idiot.

comics as a whole have even worse writing than video games. kotor2's writing shits all over anything in the comics.

>objective criticism never exists when it comes to narrative,
Yes it does you dumb post-modernist. Critical standards for good and bad writing exist, and have always existed. Things like CONSISTENT PLOT. CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT. CHARACTER MOTIVATION. CONSISTENT WORLD BUILDING. GOOD STRUCTURE. GOOD PACING, FORESHADOWED PLOT TWISTS, HAVING A THEME THAT EXTENDS OUTSIDE THE STORY. Are all objective measures for narrative.

T. I studied the subject matter.

>everyone weighs narrative problems to a different level
Then that's not objective. That's subjective.

>trying to claim you that someone's opinion is shit for being """subjective""" just means your mad they don't agree or are retarded in you cant understand that simple concept
But you're the one who's mad I don't agree with your opinions on the prequels, and are trying to prove my tastes are "shit" for not agreeing with you, and when I ask you to please poke holes in the narrative that deviate from your personal opinion, you resort to attacking me.

There are OBJECTIVE measures for bad writing. If you're able to poke holes in the narrative, then those are objective flaws. Saying you don't like something cause you don't like it or cause you think it's bad, isn't objective, it's a subjective opinion and if you have to rely on parroted memes to get your point across then that just means you like the capability to critical and analytical thought developed enough to understand good narrative, and simply think something is bad cause you were told to think it's bad.

Feel free to learn narrative structure, and storytelling, and then take an analytical lens to the prequels if you'd like. I welcome any new views on films I like.

But telling me my "taste is shit" cause I disagree with you, because I've actually taken the time to learn writing and storytelling, and you're only parroting internet memes only makes you look like a jackass.

>words words words
>implying I'm a post modernist
condense your ideas faggot, if this is what you consider good pacing for an argument on an image board then god what is wrong with you

Almost every single aspect of visual design from the comics has been abandoned in kotor in favour of memorable images from the original and prequel movies. Thanks to kotor, we have a technologically stagnant galaxy that hasn't changed for 4000 years.

And video games as a whole have even worse writing than movies, so this new old republic movie will shit over kotor 2, surely?

>shit writing is good when it's consistent
the absolute state of prequel apologists

>I’m defending a character who serves his purpose and works as intended. It’s one thing if YOU don’t like him, and you’re free to your opinion, but saying he’s objectively bad is gonna require more than your opinion.
His purpose was to be a comic relief character aimed at children. That does not make him a good character. He exits to step in literal shit, and put his tongue in a podrace engine. What, you think it's the minority that fucking hated him? You think there isn't good reason that he was all but eradicated from the following movies?
>From an objective critical writing standpoint he’s perfectly consistent with his own character. This isn’t a flaw, it’s another subjective opinion.
Being consistent with your own character means fuck all with regards to quality. You could make a character whose entire purpose was to literally say "duh i make big dodo", and have him do nothing else. That's consistent enough for you, right? Well then, no criticism to be had there.
>Anakin is just fine.
How? Anakin's entire character is being whiny, arrogant and a fucking asshole. Nearly every scene he's in, he either whines, indignantly throws vitriol at Obi-Wan or talks about how things aren't fair. The fall to the darkside is not very tragic when the guy was already a full blown asshole. Should I remind you that he slaughered an entire village of sand people, the women and the children, too? When we he ever a guy that acted at all like a Jedi? He literally murders children five minutes after turning to the darkside. There was no fall for Anakin to be had - he was already a fucking asshole. That you claim that's the point of his character doesn't make a bit of difference.

They were NOT despised for years, quit rewriting history. Opinions were mixed with a very loud vocal minority throwing a fit cause "George Lucas ruined our childhood" by making films for a new generation.

Also, read Don't tell me to "watch plinket" I'll tell you to watch the guy who tears Plinket a new asshole in response.

Feel free to poke holes in the narrative on your own terms, and we can discuss if those criticisms hold up or not. I'm not saying the prequels are flawless, cause they're not. I'm not even saying they're better thant he OT cause they're not. What I am saying is that the recent hate they got in the last decade is totally unwarranted, and 10 or so years ago, it was nowhere near this unanimous, with opinions very much split. The Prequels are fine films, and far better than Disney's ACTUAL shit.

Death or the Author, the idea that there can't be an objective measurement for art, is a post-modernist idea you illiterate moron.

And if you're not gonna bother to read a simple paragraph directed at you, then it's no wonder you were too stupid to form your own opinions in regard to films.

>kotor works because you, the PC, makes the decision of what happens and how the story plays out
>LET'S MAKE A MOVIE OUT OF IT
Why is the mouse so damn retarded. Wasn't the KOTOR books damn bad?

>They were NOT despised for years, quit rewriting history.
Are you fucking insane? Are you fucking shitposting? The fact the prequels were received with disappointment and resentment is readily available for you to discover. Jesus fucking Christ, the pendulum really has swung to the opposite end of the spectrum

Imagine a collab between nu-bioware and nu-disney
This will be glorious
I feel bad for people who likes KOTOR

>Death or the Author, the idea that there can't be an objective measurement for art
top fucking kek

>And video games as a whole have even worse writing than movies
name 11 movies with better writing than kotor2. and are you saying that kotor comics are better written than kotor2?

sjws and feminists won´t stop until everything is destroyed
the only way to stop them is by making liberal realize that they are costing them political power

Bioware fucked up with TOR and shitty novelization of KOTOR anyway. At worse, they're raping a corpse.

>Death or the Author, the idea that there can't be an objective measurement for art, is a post-modernist idea you illiterate moron.
Death OF the author is a completely unrelated idea from that, one is trying to read into shit to bullshit an essay and the what I was trying to say was that in terms of narrative consistency people put more stock into certain aspects of a story then others
>And if you're not gonna bother to read a simple paragraph directed at you, then it's no wonder you were too stupid to form your own opinions in regard to films.
I view all of this as shit posting but okay retard lets go down your argument Mr. college head
>Yes it does you dumb post-modernist. Critical standards for good and bad writing exist, and have always existed. Things like CONSISTENT PLOT. CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT. CHARACTER MOTIVATION. CONSISTENT WORLD BUILDING. GOOD STRUCTURE. GOOD PACING, FORESHADOWED PLOT TWISTS, HAVING A THEME THAT EXTENDS OUTSIDE THE STORY. Are all objective measures for narrative.
all of which is fumbled by execution, the focus George puts on shit like Ankin and Padmes relation ship is all due to George not understanding how and when not to cut stuff
>But you're the one who's mad I don't agree with your opinions on the prequels
IDK how you came to that conclusion user, I literally only replied twice to you in this tread

Shit on Lucas all you want, selling SW at the time he did was the smartest thing he has ever done.

What makes it shit writing? Please elaborate.

>His purpose was to be a comic relief character aimed at children. That does not make him a good character. He exits to step in literal shit, and put his tongue in a podrace engine. What, you think it's the minority that fucking hated him? You think there isn't good reason that he was all but eradicated from the following movies?
No kids hated Jar Jar Binks. And please feel free to elaborate on what makes him a "bad character."
>slapstick humor
Slapstick isn't bad, and you had no problem with it in Episode 6. If you're gonna direct hate at the prequels for childish humor, then you better be just as critical of the OT for the same things. Don't be a hypocrite.

>Being consistent with your own character means fuck all with regards to quality.
No, that's wrong. But I'll give you a chance to elaborate before jumping in.

>You could make a character whose entire purpose was to literally say "duh i make big dodo", and have him do nothing else.
You're correct, you also need to make sure they serve a purpose within the narrative, and have motivations. Both Anakin and Jar Jar have these.
Consistency, Purpose within the Story, and Character Motivations. Those are what make a good character. Feel free to prove me wrong.

>That's consistent enough for you, right? Well then, no criticism to be had there.
See above. Your example failed because as you said, the character lacked purpose and character motivation.

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2/3

>How? Anakin's entire character is being whiny, arrogant and a fucking asshole. Nearly every scene he's in, he either whines, indignantly throws vitriol at Obi-Wan or talks about how things aren't fair.
Yeah, it's called foreshadowing. A virtuous, flawless character suddenly giving into their emotions and falling to darkness makes no sense. Nor would it makes sense for Anakin to be like that. An overly emotional, underdeveloped teenager though...? 100% consistent. Doubly so given Anakin's upbringing. He's always been revenge-driven, and weak to his own emotions.
>The fall to the darkside is not very tragic when the guy was already a full blown asshole.
How's it not tragic. he was a flawed hero, but a hero nontheless.

>Should I remind you that he slaughered an entire village of sand people, the women and the children, too?
Again. How is this inconsistent with his character? I don't understand how this is an argument against Anakin given the context of the scene, where it pushed his character to, and who he becomes by the end of the film. Anakin's emotional outbursts are proof that he's very prone to falling to darkness. Idk how people can acknowledge a scene like this 2 films back, where he showed emotional weakness, and bloodlust when at his most desperate, but then turn around and be shocked when that same person kills Jedi infants in the next film
>wow, Anakin's turn to darkness was so sudden
It wasn't. Weren't you paying attention? His downfall slowly began in 2, and hell, it can even be traced back to 1, when they said "he's too old to be a Jedi."

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Soibois are inherently hideous, ugly and monstrous. What you're looking at is a subhuman abomination.

>When we he ever a guy that acted at all like a Jedi?
That's the POINT! The Jedi made a mistake in training him, because they blindly followed a prophesy. Anakin was doomed to turn to the darkside from the moment he was let in given his upbringing. Imagine what his childhood must have been like on Tatooine. And then the pain of being taken away from his mother, his ONLY lifeline to reality to join an order of monks. Anakin's autism and even awkwardness with Padme are all INTENTIONAL. Idk how people don't get this.

>He literally murders children five minutes after turning to the darkside. There was no fall for Anakin to be had - he was already a fucking asshole.
That's the POINT!

>That you claim that's the point of his character doesn't make a bit of difference.
How does it not make a difference. What were you expecting?

Thet were not hated for years. If you don't agree with me, give me proof that they were universally reviled for as long as you say, when I can go back and find glowing reviews for the now hated RotS from when it came out, but critic and author alike.

star wars is fucking gay, you nerd

>What are some other sci-fi stories or games that utilize spiritual magic?
Ring Runner kinda did this.

Who else is praying for this to flop?

>all of which is fumbled by execution, the focus George puts on shit like Ankin and Padmes relation ship is all due to George not understanding how and when not to cut stuff
I agree the execution could be improved, but the film is still servicable, and the core elements of the story still strong.
>Anakin and Padme
This is not where the execution fails. At least not wholly. The awkwardness works well, and honestly should be highlighted more. And I agree it goes on for too long. But that's AotC. RotS and PM don't have the Romance that overstays its welcome, if anything, the payoff for it is good in RotS, with all the Anakin and Padme scenes being very good.

Particularly this one:

youtube.com/watch?v=1B_w2s0GOMU

>IDK how you came to that conclusion user, I literally only replied twice to you in this tread
Well, please follow the thread. This entire discussion began over someone telling me my taste was shit for liking the prequels, when they were shocked that "the sequels made people like them" when I'm saying that they were liked all along. It's just our opinions have always been drowned out bu the vocal minority, especially after Plinket.

You're free to dislike the Prequels. That's fine. I won't agree with you that they're objectively bad though, cause they're not. They've very good films in fact. Not as good as the OT, but definitely "flawed but good." over all. You don't have to like them, that's fine.

Why does everything has to be a goddamn trilogy?? Can't a single movie or even a duology exist in this damned world? The Hobbit suffered from the very same fate, they clearly didn't have enough material for three movies and had to shove some absurd romance and meaningless fan service just so they could fill the time quota

Will revan killing the twilek wookie fucker canon?

Fucking this. Those movies are not aimed to us. I would even say that they are only aimed to pre-teens libtards and nobody else.

Rian Johnson can suck a fat dick for destroying everything that JJ was, at least trying, to build. What a goddamn mess... And now they are even bringing the emperor back, out of no fucking where. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Star Wars is dead to me. Just a dead corpse still being milked for money.

I was excited when they revealed Fallen Order but it ended up looking like even more generic walmart mtn dew shit than Force unleashed

>Why does everything has to be a goddamn trilogy?
At face value, money, but that doesn't make sense since if it fails it will lose a lot of money
What is wrong with holywood? I see all these absurd decisions and i still don't know how these people are allowed to work at all

That's the thing, its not yours, some jew on holywood owns it

>JJ was trying to build
MYSTERY BOX
Dude wasn't trying to build shit. He's a hack writer. If they were trying to build anything, they would have all had notes or at least an outline of where the story was headed for the whole trilogy. Not to excuse Ryan for being an awful writer and director too, but he did go in blind into TLJ. The fault is on all of them.

OTfag autism has resulted in movies that ruin the original stories more than the prequels or special editions could have ever hoped to.

>. I thought this was just a rumor.
It absolutley is. A quick glance at the video OP posted is enough to realise it's just fan prattle with no sources whatsoever.

What is (probably ) true: Multiple SW movie trilogies are in the earliest stages of conception, ideas are being thrown around and nothing more. Nothing has been done, and there's the thing:
Imagine Disney releasing multiple trilogies. 6 movies, maybe 9 movies. Think about that and then fucken get real. Most of the ideas will be scrapped, trilogies will become duologies or one-offs, very little of what is being dreamed up right now will ever happen. Anything Kotor related that might be being thrown around (as if) is pretty likely to be thrown out.

This.

I hope they're happy. What was most disappointing, was when RLM refused to give the Sequels the same serving of shit they gave the Prequels.

Lucas was a visionary who'd already planned ahead. Granted the man was insane and wanted to do a story about a microscopic world where bacteria write down the history of the obserbed universe. But he still "planned" it.

Abrams was just brought in for the big fat paycheck by Disney. He was fine leaving a trainwreck for others to continue behind because he already got paid to shit out a script.

They did?! Wow we dodged a bullet here.

>Wasn't the KOTOR books damn bad?
only because they subverted expectations at every turn instead of giving fans what they wanted