Are gamers literally insane?

Are gamers literally insane?

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Can you collect welfare off it?

Not yet according to your pic.

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." - The Joker

No one here is gonna read that the behaviour has to be sufficiently severe enough to significantly impair a person’s personal, family, social, educational, or occupational functioning and be evident for at least 12 months.

The DSM and WHO are useless swamps of bugmen drawing lines in the sand to advance various agendas
This is small fries compared to their normal hackery

no one ever mentions that part because it doesn't push their narrative

Isn't it just like having an addiction problem with literally anything else? Why video games in particular?

sounds like a lot of other things you could classify with these exact same stipulations

like being gay or tranny

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My wife was a therapist for over 10 years so I have the last 3 generations of the DSM lying around. It's fun to get drunk with my friends and diagnose each other.

fpbp

sign me up for disability

100% this, which is why trannies are so fucking annoying these days

this

it doesnt count as an actual disability if you can't collect welfare off it

and the video game journalists only exist to fuel their rage
its a beautiful cycle

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No, games have helped me.

Blacks have always been leeches.

Hail a white America! Down with the UN and ZOG. Trump 2020!

What does this people call the people who play video games then?

>exist only to make ragebait
>wonder why people hate you
really powers up the coconut

What about twitter/twitterposter addiction?

Incels

Can I get government money with a debilitating gaming mental illness now?

>meanwhile Transgerism isn't a mental illness
We live in a clown world.

Yes

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I have 3k hours on dota 2, how much disability bux will that get me?

mere fodder for their corporate masters

>Are gamers literally insane?
I mean, obviously? I've read shit on here that literally anyone can see has no real basis in reality if you just go outside for 20 minutes.

What happens if I die from gaming before 2022?

Ah yes the same people who said hot water gives cancer.

lmao who trying to pay off angry white men to forestall the obligatory bicentennial global scale war

too little too late imo

You don't collect $200

If I can make money off of it then who really cares

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Life supplies of mountain dew and doritos

well gaming has effected my personal and professional life, as well has hurting my education. going on for 30 years verifiable.

I'm a tranny and I play games so yes.

drinking really hot beverages can increase your risk if you do it for long enough. makes sense since it causes minor burns. i dunno how people drink something that hot though.

can anyone tell me why you can't be addicted to gaming without changing topics to trannies? multiple people have died because they spent too much time playing games in a single sitting without even getting up to go to the bathroom. and it's obvious a lot of modern games are made to be as addictive as possible.

Looks like its time for gamers to rise up in the streets until we get the right to vote.

this

lol down with zog and trump 2020. fucking retard thinking voting for shabas goy don is against the ZOGs wishes

I can see it, but are people who watch 20 hours of TV a day or read books 20 hours per day also medically insane?

>it's completely ok to be fag or tranny
>it's absolutely not ok to play video games
I wonder who can be behind all this?

MEANWHILE GENDER DYSPHORIA...

what reaction am i supposed to have Yea Forums. im a brainlet when it comes to stuff like this

I developed avoidance behaviours at 15 as a coping mechanism and then hid in my room playing video games ever since then. I just turned 32. Is that severe enough?

this. also its officially a disease but unregulated gambling aka lootboxes isn't an issue and is optional lol

The perfected goyim

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Since you're making random posts about transgenders being mentally ill I'm sure you support transitioning, the current most effective known treatment right? After all you sound like you have a true interest in making sure people get the mental healthcare they need.

Because everyone needs to be a unique little flower

Sounds like the video games are caused by a different issue so probably not but strangers on the internet aren't a replacement for a doctor that has spent the 10+ years of study required to diagnose mental illnesses.

So when's television addiction/disease?

Different mechanism, different social implications, inability to file it under an existing disorder thus creating problems with insurance and whatnot.

it'd still be useful to classify each addiction separately because they won't all have the exact same issues to deal with. like someone addicted to eating is going to have different problems compared to someone addicted to gaming.

Good thing have been a neet for over 10 years, Hope they bump up my autism bucks

I can now call off work to game all day without lying

>2.5 years away from retardbux
This is it bois

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most of them are, yes.

more people would probably support it if the sex surgeries were perfected, which they most likely will be at some point, but i think more people have an issue with that than the actual transgender people themselves.

They do this so they can use it to take peoples guns
Fucking elite

for every person whos happy with their surgery theres someone whos depression it only made worse

recommending it as a "treatment" without fully outlining the risks and side effects and informing patients of exactly what will and will not happen is very irresponsible

nothing will magically turn your body into a perfect woman (or man on the other side)

Only 12 mouths? How about for the last 20 years?

I want off

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Cutting dick is not mental help, retarded zealot.
Do you even know what mental help means?

S e e t h i n g

I haven't left my house in the last 4 years. Can I apply for NEETbux?

>caring about what WHO says
>WHO literally said trannies were not mentally ill anymore

>the current most effective known treatment right?
But not the correct one, faggot.

>the current most effective known treatment

at what, getting them to off themselves? hell yes i do

Can I finally quit my job and get NEETbux now?

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There needs to be a social media board. I'm extremely fucking tired of people seriously discussing the latest twitter drama but shitposting in on-topic video game threads. If you want to discuss news related to video games take it from an actual credited source and not from fucking twitter or facebook or instagram.

They are right you know

Cope.

NOOOOOO DELETE THIS

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GAMERS RISE UP

>make tweet saying FUCK GAME JOURNALISTS
>get counted as disabled and pick up welfare

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this is vidya related you insufferable tranny

Ive only had one job in the 8 years Ive been an adult and it was for 6 months
Ive been NEET the rest of the time doing nothing but computer garbag 12-16 hours a day
I also dropped out of school at 16 to play my friends wow account

>seething this hard
Cope.

Congrats Yea Forums, you're officially more mentally ill than trannies

A bullet is cheaper.

then why isn't gender dysphoria a thing when people like cosmo literally let their inability to accept the reality of their body affect their entire life and health?f

Television generally has much less predatory design decisions.
Somehow I doubt that. I've never had anyone tell me I was mutilating myself when I had surgery as a result of cancer even though that was far from a perfect outcome and left me walking with a cane since I was a teenager.
>for every person whos happy with their surgery theres someone whos depression it only made worse
I'm sure you can provide the peer reviewed research supporting that, and I'm sure any research you do provide will account for base rates of suicide.
>recommending it as a "treatment" without fully outlining the risks and side effects and informing patients of exactly what will and will not happen is very irresponsible
Thankfully informed consent is something that every legitimate scientific endeavor takes very seriously, so this is an imaginary issue or a deliberate lie.
>nothing will magically turn your body into a perfect woman (or man on the other side)
Good thing we're using science to make our best attempt then.
Feel free to explain to everyone why you think your opinion is worth more than the doctors who have spent literal decades studying the topic.
No, that would be refraining from treating them at all.

jesus christ you are absolutely seething
who hurt you?

Suddenly 13% of america are now self described gamers

NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND

Its a twitter screencap thread, you cock sucking tourist, and its the third thread about this news that's in the catalogue right now. Discussing a twitter screencap is not news you fuckwad. I want reddit and newfags to fucking leave.

the previous ways of trying to treat it as a purely mental issue without transitioning had worse outcomes overall.

Friend if you'd like to see seething I'd strongly recommend reading the many replies to my post that don't even attempt to make an actual argument, such as your own.

seething buyer's remorse tranny

But still were correct.

nobody is going to take you seriously if you can't give a good explanation as to why you can't be addicted to gaming and just try to virtue signal about how much you hate trannies

This could easily be faked. Literally just play vidya until you fail college or lose your job. Can't wait to collect my NEET bux

>hard working men trying to provide for backstabbing whores sitting at home either watching tv, doing drugs, or getting fucked by jamal while pretending to be innocent hardworking wives have the highest suicide rates
f for all the honest hardworking men who have beared the worst for the rest of us

f

Depends on your own morals/views on the issue, or whoever else's views you choose to agree with desu

Sounds like Yea Forums.

>denying the propaganda exists

oh wait you're here spreading it. nevermind

Your post wasn't an argument, it was a shitpost you self-unaware idiot.

>predatory design decisions

YEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOONG OOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT

Good. Gamers are faggots anyway. Now all we need is for them to classify transgenders as mentally ill.

>appeal to authority
Not an arguement but fallacy.
Cope harder.

people who make threads about twitter screencaps are more mentally ill than trannies could ever be

when will the WHO review MMOs?

Theres nothing wrong with using this twitter screencap. using an official report wouldn't be any different. stay mad tranny.

They're actually doing the opposite and taking them off the mental illness list.

Losers

So yoy think cutting patient limb when he feels it doesnt belong to him is proper cure?
Are you retarded?

>playing video games is a mental disorder
>cutting your dick off isn't
>hasn't seen the pimozide study
also the suicide rate is higher post-transition

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>didn't work but it was correct
ideological retard

i hope social media addiction is quickly classified and a treatment devised because it's getting really depressing seeing all my family being asocial, miserable addicts with a full complement of social media-driven anxieties

the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

Addicts are.

>No, that would be refraining from treating them at all.
Sure thing

no, addictions are addictions, whether it be to gaming or to eating sweets

>gaming disorder goes into effect Jan 1, 2022

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There is absolutely something wrong. You're not discussing actual news, you're discussing some faggot on twitter's reaction to news. Which is fucking cancer. You are fucking cancer, tourist, and I want you to leave.

>40% suicide rate is somehow not a good enough cause to say that surgery is a garbage solution
wew lad

>Now all we need is for them to classify transgenders as mentally ill.
They were classed as mentally ill, They removed the label not to long ago, Keep up nigga.

>Are gamers literally insane?

Not all but if I had to call social services on someone it would definitely be the whales that spend their life's savings on microtransactions and gatcha games. You definitely have to be mentally ill to continue on with that shit.

if you read the screencap you'd see that its not a reaction, just a recap of events. figures a mentally ill tranny can't see the world accurately though.

Never going to happen with organizations like NASP around. Modern psychology is rooted in promoting social justice.

Honk

There have been no clinical trials which stray from the "TRANSITIONING IS THE ONLY ANSWER!!!" since the 1980s because of PC lobbying preventing alternate treatment options from being explored

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no gay people are

that's not the same thing, why can't you stay on topic? sex change surgery is not just cutting off a dick, even if that's what you want it to be for the memes and because it's easier for you to deal with than accepting that it's an extremely complicated issue that can't be resolved by posting tranny memes on a video game board.

Fuck sake, too late for my disability bux

>dindu nuffin

unethical human experimentation is not mental healthcare

It's the same thing you, pedantic faggot. It's not a news article, its some fuckwad like you talking about a news article. Which is a reaction to it. You and your agenda aren't welcome here, normalfag.

>i hope social media addiction is quickly classified and a treatment devised
the best treatment is probably letting people burn themselves out on it once they start realizing it's making them unhappy

i'll feed you the same line i fed my professor:
you say "peer review" i say "gatekeeping censorship"

They are going to start taxing it like most "addictions" For mental health of course. It's a lucrative industry

>cutting your dick off because you think you're a women NEVER EVER

the suicide rate is lower in places where they're more accepted. so you'll start treating them better now, yeah? you actually care about the loss of life and want to fix it and not just get some kind of dopamine rush from shitposting about it?

How many gamers are going to join the 40% now?

Good thing nobody cares what you say.

>Thankfully informed consent is something that every legitimate scientific endeavor takes very seriously
Actually I knew someone who was trans and they said when they called the """informed consent""" clinic, all they said was "If you ask for hormones, we'll prescribe them to you no questions asked"

That shit is literally thrown around like candy my dude because it makes money just like SSRIs, educate yourself

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>It's the same thing
lol enjoy your warped perspective on reality, tranny

no one trusts or cares what scientists say either otherwise there wouldnt be a debate

>no sources
wew

>im going to ignore logic because I don't actually care about it or this board
lol enjoy being cancer, faggot

>switching topics is an argument

Playing videogames is a mental disorder while wanting to chop off your dick isnt, and grooming kids to be 'trans' is perfectly ok

honk honk

In other words "we only care if wagie won't get in cagie and this disorder classification is an excuse to punish people who dare to do other things"

>Addiction is a disease
You don't say
Why are you losing your shit over this?

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they never do though, they just keep getting hit after hit of nigger vines and facebook/twitter posts. it's been the same for 10 years. they're falling to pieces personally all because they just sit and consume social media all day. fucking normalfags.

it's just like me and Yea Forums actually. i hate it here, it's really shit these days and it makes me miserable, but i come here all day every day since 2006.

there was no logic in your post, just you repeating yourself

Think it's nearly time to go camping in the woods.

>None of the doctors I am paying 10's of thousands of dollars to chop my dick off have said this was a bad idea.
Gee, I wonder why that would be. It almost like they stand to gain something...

See

i don't think anyone here treats trannies in any particular manner given a lack of interaction with them

I simply ignore them user, i won't spend my life telling them to kill themselves, its simply a matter of long term consequences, where i live there's maybe 2 or 3 doctors in the whole country that do the surgery, simply because its completely unethical, same as abortion, the fact that its normalized in US doesn't mean its fucking normal

We really should have a socialized health care system.

Yes it is.
>why can't you stay on topic?
Taking special olympics serious is for retards.
> it's an extremely complicated issue that can't be resolved by posting tranny memes on a video game board.
Its not.

WHO more like LITERALLY WHO

this was meant to be a thread about addiction but the trans contingent had to make it about themselves, big surprise there

my dude, i hope you are able to find peace and happiness, but don't try to find it through cruel irreversible surgery because there's far too much suffering in this world already

ba dum tss

Dont confuse me for yourself, faggot, I clearly explained why your twitter screencap thread was cancer. You just don't care because you're a tourist.

How can you defend that considering that the same organization considers cutting off your dick as an healthy and brave idea, but playing vidya means that you are considered an mentally ill human piece of shit that should just be killed off?

When is gaming going to be limited like smoking/alcohol? When will corporations promoting gaming be punished? Not soon enough.

Nice projection.

Go dilate tranny

being trans isn't a disorder btw

why is there a random "you just know" image?

Well to blow off your money towards pixels and believing you worth shit for developers after you are a victim of daylight robbery and scam, yep they are. Not to mention shilling for free.

reminder, that almost all social "science" publications, peer reviewed articles and research was LITERALLY found to be un reproducible

So you're cutting your dick off over a bunch of shit people made up specifically to trick you into cutting your dick off and all soft sciences are entirely just made up

are you the same person making all the clown posts itt? the only people i've seen using that meme irl had their own set of severe mental issues even though they weren't trannies

Get fucked social media tourist

This is the dumbest fucking logic ever.

Can you claim welfare for being an alcoholic?

It's a disease, not a disability.

got that right

i'll be damned if these degenerate fuckers try and get tax money

>Videogamers are mentally ill people
>Videogames cause mental and phyicl degradation
>Videogames cause cancer
>Videogames are the source evil in this world
>Governments outlaws videogames
>AAA industry collapses
>normies leave videogames for good
>Videogames go to underground mode, being made by passionate people
>We go back to the golden times of vidya
based WHO saving vidya

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you can claim free meds for depression and sell them to thots at school

When will the WHO admit they have an addiction problem?

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there is only one treatment for a tranny and thats a bullet to the head

THE GAME DISEASE IS REAL, I KNEW IT

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Any one who uses memes irl is mentally unstable, That's a given

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Yup, can't wait until we're back to gaming not being the cool thing to do.

sauce on top right?

This whole "they targeted gamers" and "gamers are being opressed" started as some mocking ironic crap, but don't you think it's becoming reality right before our eyes? I mean in a very short timespan, not only being a tranny was declassified as mental illness, but gaming addiction was in turn classified as mental illness.
I mean, at this point you have to be blind not to see the blatant prosecution. It's like they are openly mocking us bros, and there isn't anything we can do about it. It's frustrating.

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the so called opioid crisis is the worst

i had surgery and they fuckin told me to mix tylenol and ibuprofen until the pain goes away instead of giving me vicodin. i was in agony for like 2 weeks

i'm not even /pol/ but it must be some kind of mindfuck to control people by controlling pain management

hope we get gov'ment bucks out of it at least

twitter addicts are utterly the same

who must be a pack of sjws

There is something you can do user

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>so called opioid crisis
>when i have to beat back the fucking addicted homeless away from me

I'll tell you what you can do, and it has worked on them for the past thousands of years


Ignore

You're making it worse for yourselves by shitposting about it

comparing a heroin addict to someone in chronic pain is exactly the problem.

When the left couldn’t control video gaming by forcing us to swallow SJW propaganda, they will now try to destroy it. They want control over every form of media, and those formats that don’t comply will be banned.

yep, insane in the membrane
insane
got no brain

>2.5 years until free money to buy more vidya

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Can't wait for my gambling, alcoholic, chronic shoplifting mother to call me up and say "DID YOU KNOW YOU HAVE AN ADDICTION? YOU NEED HELP"
Ha
ha
ha
ha
UUUUUAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHH

people are talking about trannies because the organization said they weren't mentally ill despite having a staggering suicide rate as a direct result of their mental illness while simultaneously defining rather vague things a disorders without much scientific justification.

The WHO and APA are political activist organizations.

A lot of those homeless people weren't homeless before they were prescribed opiates for an injury

>playing vidya is mental illness
>thinking you're a different gender and wanting to cut your dick off isn't
What a world.

kys tranny

if you had chronic pain you'd smoke week or do other things to manage you fruit

...which applies to all the losers on here, so your point is irrelevant

you're an idiot

>goes into effect January 1st, 2022.

Gee, I sure wish we had until January 1st, 2022 for cancer to go into effect.

spoken like someone who's never had chronic nerve pain

weed won't do shit you fuckwit

>just ignore it haha
>>>/reddit/

if the country legalized such that pharmacies could sell oxycodone for five cents a pill the "opioid crisis" would be nonexistent. anyone with an opioid dependency would just get on with life and you would be none the wiser.

So, now it is perfectly healthy if I want to take a knife and cut my dick off, but I’m ill if I want to play vidya?

So there's nothing "so-called" about it.

why is Body Integrity Identity Disorder different from Gender Identity Disorder? It's pretty much the same thing. Trannies get special privileges though.

What are you underage? Hope you don't let your mother give you shit as a grown man

I would start worrying when they start gasing gamers and a gamer state forms 50 years after.

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I haven't read the statement from the WHO but I imagine they're not trying to call "playing videogames" a disorder/addiction, but rather classifying the act of compulsively spending a dozen hours a day or what have you as a distinct disorder. whether or not that deserves its own category or if there's some sort of larger "waste your life disorder" that it could be filed under, I don't know, I'm not a doctor. but as a concept it seems perfectly reasonable to me. some people really do destroy their lives that way.

inb4 some tranny shitpost. I can disagree with the WHO on gender disorders while agreeing with them on this.

what is this unfunny trash? is this lefty reddit trying to make a meme again?

Not every person who drinks is an alcoholic
Not every person who games is a gaming addict
Stop with the hysterics

literally WHO

where were you when the fornite riots started

Maybe everyone here is mentally ill. Normal people don't spend their weekends muttering about trannies on anime websites.

extremely common lie. they abused their prescriptions. there's almost no risk of addiction if you use as prescribed

hurting people to save self-destructors from their own weakness. and it doesnt even work because theyre homeless anyway

Why are you defending an organization that encourages people to cut their dicks off?

and a lot of people would be dead in pretty short order, for whatever that's worth

>what is this unfunny trash? is this lefty reddit trying to make a meme again?
The UN is a lefty organization.

I haven't spoken to my mother for 5 years.
I still accept her texts just because she's stupid and says too much in them.
I'd had the police stop her attempted suicides twice now.
Oh but I'm a terrible son who doesn't love her and would dare call the cops on her.

But she's my mum and I'd rather not have her just kill herself.

>there's almost no risk of addiction
I know you're just trolling, but you still got a chuckle out of me

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who said I was defending them? I just think that it's a real problem that does exist.
>inb4 some tranny shitpost. I can disagree with the WHO on gender disorders while agreeing with them on this.

some trans people don't want surgery though

What about tranny?

>opiates
>one of the most addictive things out there
>almost no risk of addiction

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The WHO means nothing after they took transgenderism off the list.

Fuck off, mong.

>((world))

I'd let her buy me some lobster if you know what I mean.

I'd fuck her in the pussy if you know what I mean.

Need medicine and support paid with your taxes

but gender dysphoria is still in the DSM?

>there's almost no risk of addiction if you use as prescribed
that is completely and entirely wrong you fucking retard
do a little bit of research before talking out of your ass

at least I don't suck the dick of doctors
you must be a a fucking burger

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That's fine, they're probably smart. If I was trans I wouldn't want SRS either (maybe boobs, but those are easy).

there really isnt.

i dont understand. have people never taken the drugs? do they just believe the propaganda and then talk straight out of their ass?

you can take 4-6 pills a day for 3 months stop and be totally fine

its like people think theyre injecting it into their cock or something

RISE UP GAMERS RISE UP
BOTTOM TEXT
>complains on a forum about how games I don't like should be banned
>Gets banned from resetera for misgendering a cartoon rodent
A-AT LEAST I'M NOT A TOXIC GAMER

what are you implying?

by the way, here's your "obsessed"

man theyre really pushing this hard. guess i hit a sore spot

the vast majority of opioid overdoses are caused by unpredictable (because black market) dosage fucking the user up the ass. standardize the dosage and that problem goes away.

paracetamol has an incredibly lousy safety profile -- a lethal dose of something like 4x the typical dose -- but i don't see anyone crying about that being available off-the-shelf in pharmacies.

So retarded, it's not gaming that will ruin your life but technology addiction: internet/smartphones/apps

>t. humble opioid merchant

kek

>the vast majority of opioid overdoses are caused by unpredictable (because black market) dosage fucking the user up the ass
Wrong. it is overprescribed.
>paracetamol has an
It is actually not THAT easy to kill yourself with it. A lot of women try it but very few succeed.

IGNORE
>Anita steals hundreds of thousands and is now considered an authority on something she knows nothing about
THEM
>Game journalists closer to publishers than ever and outright accept favors from them
THEY'LL
>Every game forum except for Yea Forums is now full-on totalitarian and will ban you for not worshiping even shitty games because the 'right people' made them
GO
>This is all getting worse and worse identity politics is now used routinely as a coverup for shit business practices
AWAY!

so this is how it happens. i hope that fraction of a cent in your account helps feed your family singh

a person with BIID might want to be in a wheelchair and be treated as a cripple, isn't that the same?

How about this, what if a healthy individual sues someone under the accessibility act? Should that person win the case because of they identify as disabled, even though they're not?

Sorry user, Shit sounds fucked, A good friend of mine was in a similar situation over his parents divorce, It's hard to fix a broken family, But if you really care get your mum some help man, Go see her

>Hormonal therapy and sex reassignment: a systematic review and meta‐analysis of quality of life and psychosocial outcomes"
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1365-2265.2009.03625.x

>Objective To assess the prognosis of individuals with gender identity disorder (GID) receiving hormonal therapy as a part of sex reassignment in terms of quality of life and other self‐reported psychosocial outcomes.

>We identified 28 eligible studies. These studies enrolled 1833 participants with GID (1093 male‐to‐female, 801 female‐to‐male) who underwent sex reassignment that included hormonal therapies. All the studies were observational and most lacked controls. Pooling across studies shows that after sex reassignment, 80% of individuals with GID reported significant improvement in gender dysphoria (95% CI=68–89%; 8 studies; I2=82%); 78% reported significant improvement in psychological symptoms (95% CI=56–94%; 7 studies; I2=86%); 80% reported significant improvement in quality of life (95% CI=72–88%; 16 studies; I2=78%); and 72% reported significant improvement in sexual function (95% CI=60–81%; 15 studies; I2=78%).

What data we have does not support your conclusion.

How is halving suicidality not helping?

Transitioning halves suicidality in adults and reduces it to baseline levels in teens who live in a supportive environment.

Cont.

does this mean developers (programmers, QA, testers) can receive hazard pay or something because they work with a potentially addictive substance

>Show WHO my Monster Hunter 4U save
>Collect NEETbux

>putting on a dress and buying drugs from the trillion dollar corrupt pharmaceutical industry will solve all your problems!

That's how I know trannies are mentally ill and low intelligence.

That may cost money
No one cares about games or the people who play them, so they get to be the scapegoat for the underlying problem.

>and reduces it to baseline levels in teens
Fucking peophile, you will hang one day

checks out. bring on the neet bucks

Based and datapilled

>Intervenable factors associated with suicide risk in transgender persons: a respondent driven sampling study in Ontario, Canada
researchgate.net/publication/277556010_Intervenable_factors_associated_with_suicide_risk_in_transgender_persons_A_respondent_driven_sampling_study_in_Ontario_Canada

>Across Europe, Canada, and the United States, 22–43 % of transgender (trans) people report a history of suicide attempts. We aimed to identify intervenable factors (related to social inclusion, transphobia, or sex/gender transition) associated with reduced risk of past-year suicide ideation or attempt, and to quantify the potential population health impact.

>...
>Among trans Ontarians, 35.1 % (95 % CI: 27.6, 42.5) seriously considered, and 11.2 % (95 % CI: 6.0, 16.4) attempted, suicide in the past year. Social support, reduced transphobia, and having any personal identification documents changed to an appropriate sex designation were associated with large relative and absolute reductions in suicide risk, as was completing a medical transition through hormones and/or surgeries (when needed). Parental support for gender identity was associated with reduced ideation.

>...
>Medical transition variables, but not social transition or being perceived as cisgender, were associated with suicidality. Among those who desired medical transition, those on hormone therapy were about half as likely to have seriously considered suicide (RR=0.52; 95 % CI: 0.37, 0.75).

>hasn't seen the pimozide study
It had a sample size of one (1).

>also the suicide rate is higher post-transition
Nope. See above.
Setting down my trap card..

APA still define *gender dysphoria* as a mental illness. If you experience gender dysphoria you're mentally ill. If you're trans and don't experience gender dysphoria then you're not mentally ill. APA defines mental illnesses as conditions that hurt the individual or cause them to hurt those around them.

what does "it is overprescribed" have to do with causes of opioid overdoses? nearly every single fucking overdose is a case of railing fentanyl-adulterated heroin into their veins. zero knowledge.

>blah blah blah
well morphine has a therapeutic index of 70:1 whereas paracetamol has an index between 5:1 and 10:1 depending on the strength of your liver

>APA still define *gender dysphoria* as a mental illness. If you experience gender dysphoria you're mentally ill. If you're trans and don't experience gender dysphoria then you're not mentally ill. APA defines mental illnesses as conditions that hurt the individual or cause them to hurt those around them.
It's extremely questionable how you can be trans without gender dysphoria. That sounds like AGP and effectively a fetish.

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>Treating a child who suffers from leukemia makes one a pedophile
Why are you so emotional?

>in teens
los rope...

>want to take down the ZOG by supporting for the biggest Jew puppet to ever sit in office
so this is the mighty white intellect

additionally the whole reason why trans are treated with such extreme privilege is because of the threat they'll kill themselves. So all medical ethics are out the window. Just give em whatever pills or surgery they want.

If you don't have gender dysphoria you're not at risk for suicide, because you're not mentally ill. You just have a fetish.

>who live in a supportive environment.
So we got to change how society works because some freaks want to play dress up? The needs of the many are greater than the few.

not in a fort that's for sure

>the current most effective
No, the most effective treatment is counseling and support from family and making the person realise that they can live a happy life without cutting off their cock, not encouraging their delusions and even involving children.

calm down mengele

Yes, I already collect welfare off it. $1800 disposeable income a month and my rent/bills are all paid for by the state with a caretaker cleaning up once a week. I was deemed mentally crippled after 8 years of therapy, so im getting welfare as my pension. Gaming is considered my only option of coping, which is why I'm getting benefits.

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you are correct. and also since literally no doctor will prescribe it for anything other than terminal illness lest they be labeled an "enabler" i have to conclude that it is most definitely NOT overprescribed by any standard

more bullshit propaganda at work

I've made an active effort to avoid human interaction outside school and work since childhood, does that count?

Nobody ignored any of those fucking things. Anita's kickstarter only exploded after outrage niggers threw attention at it.

>So we got to change how society works because some freaks want to play dress up?
What change are we talking about and also are you upset by wheelchair ramps?

>en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pimozide&action=history

Ouch, ow, oof.

>It's okay to have mental illnesses, they shouldn't be something ignored or frowned upon
>N-NO TRANNIES AREN'T MENTALLY ILL
pick one

This

Im betting this was done for two reasons. To increase welfare drain and to get as many of their opposition labelled mentally ill. Vidya is right leaning by virtue.

1) Transitioning can, in best case scenarios, rid one of dysphoria.
2) Blanchard's typology has long been abandoned by most physicians. Autogynephilia-the-fetish is real, common among repressed tranners (though it usually goes away once one transitions), and is in the DSM-5. Autogynephilia-the-erotic-target-location-error has basically been rejected by the wider scientific community because of the lack of evidence. ETLEs are unpopular in general. Don't think it's down to tranner activism. For example the idea that BIID is caused by apotemnophilia is no longer respected.

There's almost certainly a subclass of people who spend far too much time playing video games, to the point it actively ruins their life and stops them from developing lives outside of their own homes, but all you'll hear from the defensive 15 year old nerds who frequent this board is "lol that's fucking stupid bullshit I can stop whenever I want I just choose to put all my free time into video games"

yeah it is they have no idea what the fuck they are doing because there is very little legitimate research done on this, whenever there is sjws put up a bunch of a stink and shut it down. The whole "transitioning is the best treatment" is a load of anecdotal garbage and at best it is only for diagnosed dysphoria not your run-of-the-mill speedrunner.

>72% reported significant improvement in sexual function

Lmao

America is a shithole where geneticists claim that races do not exist. No wonder they cook up such 'studies'.

>cell phones/social media when

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Why would I be? being paralyzed either through disease or through accident is not sometjing they can be blamed for. Unlike tranny freaks who make an active decision to chop off the dick

If they actually had the technology to transition between genders sure, but I'll bet half of Yea Forums would be signing up at that point. But what they actually do is barbaric and not really any better than the people who want to get limbs amputated.
And I realize many trannies don't get surgery, I suppose they are slightly saner, but you can't expect people not to feel an inner sense of revulsion when they see a non-passing mtf. It's hard wired into us

there are too many school shootings and random shootings happening lately and it is too obvious why that you can relax
they won't blame video games this time

LITERALLY WHO

>Nobody ignored them
Everybody ignored them. No one tried to fight back or organize against it, and it just resulted in it getting stronger.

>IGNORE IT THIS TIME IT WILL GO AWAY
Has never, ever worked. Anita's kickstarter exploded after the same game journalists (the ones that are working 1:1 with publishers right now) all collaborated in a mailing list to run stories about it and talk about harassment that they were never actually able to point out or name.
Anita did an interview from her own house where she claimed that she was on the run from her house.

You cannot tell us ignoring it is the correct solution anymore when this shit is being made today. It's only become worse and now they're straight-up taking games away they find morally reprehensible.
At what point does *just ignore it bro* take care of pic related? At what point is it supposed to 'go away'?

Literally reality has proven you wrong and you still barf and snivel about how great it would be if we could just let the industry get away with anything.

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>the behaviour has to be sufficiently severe enough to significantly impair a person’s personal, family, social, educational, or occupational functioning and be evident for at least 12 months.
Gee, I wonder if they must have any sort of issues like anxiety or depression etc? NAH IT MUST BE THE BIDYA GEMS
I fucking hate these people

was he addicted? did it cause his death? what are they hiding?

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Binge watching and social media addicting in 2023 then?

>Blanchard's typology has long been abandoned by most physicians
that doesn't mean it's not true, it's just politically inconvenient. The truth is not the primary concern of these people.

I still don't understand how you can be legitimately considered trans, especially in the eyes of a medical professional without gender dysphoria. Transitioning is _the treatment_, why apply a damaging treatment to someone who isn't experiencing the extreme discomfort of gender dysphoria? It's not medically ethical, you're just physically harming someone with zero medical justification for it (which is normally to reduce suicide risk).

You tell me, You're the one pushing for it. But for example, Going against science to claim there are more than two gender's, Exclusive bathrooms in every establishment, Enforcing the right "pronouns" into daily speech, etc.

Never, because this is a case of STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE, and those faggots won't ever consider something they do bad.

Keep telling yourself that. Maybe chimping out like a fucking retard will work this time.

playing video games for more than 10 hours a week is considered a mental illness by the WHO.
By that logic, most people in this board are legally entitled for tugsboats/gibsmethats.

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Nice argument.

Given that social abuse directly correlates with suicidality I'd be hard-pressed to call tranners privileged.
Anyhow, I believe in bodily autonomy. What one does with one's body is not the government's business. One ought to be able to do whatever they want to do as long as they don't hurt anyone else. This freedom is the most fundamental of all. To stand for free speech, as almost every good user does, but oppose it is incoherent.

Collectivism is a grotesque, disgusting philosophy. I believe in individualism.
Ultimately there is no such a thing as objective morality. No one "has" to do anything. We write our own rules. I favor those rules that allow people to pursue their own happiness as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others to do the same. I think that the greatness of individualism lies in allowing very different people to coexist without getting in one another's way. You don't have to date tranners if you don't want to m8. Just show basic respect and they'll do the same.

so are they saving that video games are addicting or that playing video games is a compulsive behavior
going forward do i need to present id to buy a video game or do i need to go to a video game casino every time i want to play one

phones already are in korea
they send their kids to camps where you can't use your phone for a few weeks

one involves permanent body mutilation, the other being fat or socially autistic at worst
I see the priorities of the (((World Health Organization))).

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Imagine being worked up over some shitty softcore porn

I'm not the user you replied to but look dude, if you seriously trying to imply pic related ever has a chance of living a normal life you are delusional beyond repair.
Being a tranny means essentially cutting yourself off from society as a whole because no sane normal person wants to spend time with someone who looks like half men and half women. You lose the ability to find a meaningful relationship, the ability to start a family. It becomes harder to find any social setting that would accept you. It becomes harder to find a job because no employer would pick a mentally ill person over a sane one. You basically lose all perks in your life, its the equivalent of being a heroin addict, there is no happy ending only suicide. I don't even know what to tell you mean, I mean you can see a lot of people struggle in life already within their own gender to get a great job, find a girlfriend, get satisfaction out of their life then you trying to claim that the people who try to live as a different gender will have a better time?
Until you accept this you are only supporting people who destroy their life with one pill at the time. If you were born as a men people will never treat you as a real women.
Also as other user pointed out, what the fuck is this you know its bullshit when you essentially block the most important sex hormone in your body and claim to improve your sexual function. Just give up dude

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>LGBTrannies shit get into gaming
>gaming now classified as mental disease
Something is happening here

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>Given that social abuse directly correlates with suicidality I'd be hard-pressed to call tranners privileged.
I mean privileged in terms of the law and how they're treated by medical professionals. Actual privilege, not fake privilege.

What social abuse? People walk on eggshells around these subhumans in real life.

>Yea Forums
>playing videogames 10 hours a week

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yeah but recently the DSM has changed to include transition surgery as a viable option

Why is Yea Forums so obsessed with severed dicks and trannys?

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>playing video games for more than 10 hours a week is considered a mental illness by the WHO.
>all video game streamer ecelebs get put into loony bins

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calling literal men a woman? Having literal men compete in female sports because he said he was a she?

HOWDY REDDIT! HONK HONK!

Jews don't go against other jew corporations
if they classify phone addiction then big business is in conflict now and that'll make the (((suits))) angry
some big name people might end up really depressed and commit suicide with 3 shots to the back of the head

>Post evidence that this is happening
>KEEP TELLING YOURSELF THAT
No, keep telling yourself that. The reality of ignoring it is upon us and you're still screaming "IT'S NOT HAPPENING" despite actual, real-life examples of the incestuous nature of Games Journalism and Publishers, the overreach of gatekeepers and middlemen, and the actual restriction and regulation of games that actually don't have anything explicit or wrong with them and your retarded response is .

>KEEP TELLING YOURSELF THAT
How many fucking real-life examples would you need before you stopped and realized "wait, shit, this is really happening."
Imagine thinking this shit is OK because you have the brain of a fruit fly and can't see how this could eventually affect, say, GTA games which are just as sexual and violent.

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>that doesn't mean it's not true, it's just politically inconvenient. The truth is not the primary concern of these people.
That's a common narrative. As far as I know it's not true. I wrote a rather lengthy refutation of Blanchard's typology, backed by sources. If you're interested you can find it here.

pastebin.com/vkxVjAnh
pastebin.com/9z1fj6fz

It does have a mistake but I'm too lazy to remake the pastebin and deal with the link rot. tl;dr Lawrence's study is actually from an adjacent year, not from the year noted in the document.

>I still don't understand how you can be legitimately considered trans, especially in the eyes of a medical professional without gender dysphoria.
If someone transitions and no longer experiences dysphoria they're still trans but no longer ill, understand?

>Transitioning is _the treatment_, why apply a damaging treatment to someone who isn't experiencing the extreme discomfort of gender dysphoria? It's not medically ethical, you're just physically harming someone with zero medical justification for it (which is normally to reduce suicide risk).
Harm is in the eye of the beholder. As an individualist I value bodily autonomy. See:

SHUT THE FUCK UP TRANNY FREAK

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I care because every time I see someone leading a censorship mob they always have pronouns in their bio.

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Can you prove that?

Doctors also used to use leeches to suck blood out of people to cure them of stuff. They were retarded then and they're retarded now.

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>I don't understand the difference between getting paid for something and sitting alone in my room for hours on end with nothing to show for it
Get a fucking job you autistic NEET retard.

Because it's a glaring juxtaposition that really drives home how ridiculous it is.
Play vidya as long as many people watch TV? Mentally ill.
Take powerful drugs to try and be something you can't be and mutilate your genitals? Perfectly mentally sound.

There's people on welfare for being fat lazy slobs so yea probably.

>Harm is in the eye of the beholder. As an individualist I value bodily autonomy.
I'm also a civil libertarian, so if people want to take HRT and SRS that's up to them as individuals. My issue is that the medical establishment treats trans people with such extreme privilege while active refusing potentially life saving treatment to people on the basis of it being mildly questionable, or experimental. Additionally trans people are the largest activist group to roll back freedom of expression civil rights, which is totally against my individual civil rights-centric ideology.

don't you realize? we are anonymous gamers recovering from game addiction
memes to us is what art therapy is for an alcoholic

why else all the constant feet pic spam? WE ARE COPING and this isn't funny

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>I believe in individualism.
With all due respect, It doesn't matter what you believe in. We don't write our own rules either, A Government does. And they are giving these people power

video games are more engaging than sitting on the couch inhaling corn syrup for 3 hours watching the latest netflix trash

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>coming from the same health organization that classified Gender Dysphoria as a mental illness to provide them with more accessible facilities and to possibly crack down on the social stygma
WHO is a joke.

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>If someone transitions and no longer experiences dysphoria they're still trans but no longer ill, understand?
But they do. They merely mutilate their body to make it in sync with their mental illness.

>All the studies were observational and most lacked controls.
as usual tranny related research is not science

for you

>I'm not the user you replied to but look dude, if you seriously trying to imply pic related ever has a chance of living a normal life you are delusional beyond repair.
This is not an intellectual argument. This is an appeal to emotion.

>Being a tranny means essentially cutting yourself off from society as a whole because no sane normal person wants to spend time with someone who looks like half men and half women. You lose the ability to find a meaningful relationship, the ability to start a family. It becomes harder to find any social setting that would accept you. It becomes harder to find a job because no employer would pick a mentally ill person over a sane one. You basically lose all perks in your life, its the equivalent of being a heroin addict, there is no happy ending only suicide.
All of these things are the result of society conducting itself in a certain fashion. They're not iron laws of the universe. Society is malleable.

> I don't even know what to tell you mean, I mean you can see a lot of people struggle in life already within their own gender to get a great job, find a girlfriend, get satisfaction out of their life then you trying to claim that the people who try to live as a different gender will have a better time?
The data seems to suggest that, yes, people with dysphoria do better if they transition.

>Until you accept this you are only supporting people who destroy their life with one pill at the time.
Accept what, exactly? That society is cruel to trans people? I accept that. It's bad. This, however, is not a reason to refuse people a treatment that helps them, nor to refuse people the freedom to pursue their own path.

>If you were born as a men people will never treat you as a real women.
Disregarding the fact that same tranners pass.. what do you have to say about the existence of trans people who don't count themselves as members of the other sex and still seek to transition?

cont.

Do you really need a peer review study to accept that cutting off your dick and leaving an open wound that grows hair inside is a bad idea? I swear to god people like you are actually autistic.

And why do you care? Do you spend all day thinking about the cocks of degenerates?

>If someone transitions and no longer experiences dysphoria they're still trans but no longer ill, understand?
I don't think this is true, and has no basis in science. You're just speculating and undermining trans as a legitimate identity by saying gender dysphoria is temporary and can actually be "cured". Transitioning is not a cure, it's supposed to reduce suicide risk, it doesn't bring them anywhere close to the general population.

you can deconstruct his post with green text all day long. doesnt change the fact that most people are gonna react just like he said

Where did I say anything about that? You didn't answer my question. Calm down, woman.

left out the best part
>Conclusions Very low quality evidence suggests that sex reassignment that includes hormonal interventions in individuals with GID likely improves gender dysphoria, psychological functioning and comorbidities, sexual function and overall quality of life.
>gender dysphoria
which is a diagnosis, not equal to "transgenders". Look up transgender on the APA website, it includes A WHOLE LOT more than just gender dysphoria, legitimately I am transgender right now if I say I feel girly today

Because these subhumans are trying to infest my videogames. Close the tab if you don't care, tranny.

so you're saying being trans is a choice?

Curious as to why the same guy is making long drawn out posts about trannies in multiple threads. This place will never accept your kind, deal with it.

I really don't care what treatment works for you. The proliferation of chemically castrated lady boys only serves to erode our nation's military readiness. I can only hope that you are used as cannon fodder in the first attacks against the Chinese, because that's all you'll probably be good for.

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>i can't go to school, i have the video game disease!

I do support them transitioning... into a six foot hole in the ground.

>this is my business and I'm not sitting alone in my room for hours on end with nothing to show for it!
the amount of projection, is that you DSP?

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no, mentally ill people need to be culled from the population
thankfully many of them are gay or trannies and will never reproduce their inferior faggot disease onto the population
good job on culling yourself for us, freak
go dilate

>Because these subhumans are trying to infest my videogames. Close the tab if you don't care, tranny.
Watching you sperg out is all the reason I need to keep reading

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>I'm sure you support transitioning, the current most effective known treatment right?
That's what (((Big Pharma))) wants you to believe because it makes them money
Have a read, user.
medium.com/@sue.donym1984/inauthentic-selves-the-modern-lgbtq-movement-is-run-by-philanthropic-astroturf-and-based-on-junk-d08eb6aa1a4b

identifying as trans is 100% a choice yes
>While transgender is generally a good term to use, not everyone whose appearance or behavior is gender-nonconforming will identify as a transgender person.

The exact narrative, the exact way one conceptualizes oneself, is independent from transness. The whole "X trapped in a Y's body" is just the dumb mainstream tale.

>Also as other user pointed out, what the fuck is this
>you know its bullshit when you essentially block the most important sex hormone in your body and claim to improve your sexual function. Just give up dude
People who are disgusted with their bodies often don't want to have sex. People who are no longer disgusted by their bodies are more likely to want to have sex. Sexual function, if you're in a receptive role, is down to how you feel about being fucked.

The law still allows people to fire tranners for being trans and refuse them housing for being trans m8

This post reads like a parody. Poe's law is up in this motherfucker.

Youll get it once you have your first job kiddo

Doesn't sound like a bad thing, as it might help get rid of some of the more consumer-unfriendly practices.

i wonder how many afflicted are on Yea Forums right now, let us pray for their personal, family, social, educational, and occupational health.

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People play on de_dust2 since at least 2001 user.

i gotta move to the bible belt. i dont care if you fuck your cousin i just wanna be around people with the balls to shut these trannies down

Vague-gender people are transtrenders and nothing will ever convince me otherwise. Gender dysphoria is a specific mental illness with a specific consequence so it's treated as a medical issue.

So you can't, ok.

So speedrunners qualify for mentally ill. I repeat you're allowed to call those trannies mentally ill, science is on your side. Do it

THE STATE IS GOING TO PAY FOR MY LOLIS

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videogames are dishonorabu get back to wageslaving proudly 12 hours a day 6 times a week at a distribution center or factory

t. gorillionaire chinese manlet

>This is not an intellectual argument. This is an appeal to emotion.
I don't give a shit about intellectual arguments. If you looked like that you are doomed for life. You look like a fucking clown. No one will take you seriously and 100% of the people will assume you are fucked in the head. We are not robots

>Society is malleable
This is a leftist myth. It's funny how you push this whole "You are being brainwashed by capitalism and consumerism, you are being affected by society and religion, you are being conditioned" EXCEPT when it comes to you, because you totally not trying to force down your opinion on everyone's throat right? How can you not see the irony in this mentality?
>You are being affected by these outer forces and the only way to be free is to listen to me and do what I say

>The data seems to suggest that,
Yeah and common fucking sense and looking at tranny communities for 2 minutes suggest the opposite.

>That society is cruel to trans people?
If society is cruel to trans people maybe you should not promote trans people. This is the exact kind of thinking entitled fat women have. In their mind, its easier to reconstruct society than losing a few pounds. Not gonna work

>Disregarding the fact that same tranners pass
No, they do not pass. It is the taboo "cock on a girl" that makes some of them appealing within the porn community. None of them look like an actual women IRL

>what do you have to say about the existence of trans people who don't count themselves as members of the other sex and still seek to transition?
Makes even less sense

I'm just basing it off the APA which I've had plenty of mentally ill trannies direct me to go read before, but seems they never read.

Keep responding, 'i dun care' tranny

>I'm a mature human sitting in adult house with my fulltime girlfriend!

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>The law still allows people to fire tranners for being trans and refuse them housing for being trans m8
Not where I'm from. Where I'm from civil rights are being rolled back on the basis of trans people.

>The law still allows people to fire tranners for being trans and refuse them housing for being trans m8
Without a source I have to assume that is for people who answer "neither" to are you male or female which are sexes. Sex is a protected class

The APA is a political organization, not a scientific one. They're also the organization that helped develop the torture techniques for the US government used in Gitmo and Abu.

>playing games for more than 10 hours a week is a mental disorder
>but slaving your life away 50 hours a week and ultimately most of your waking life for something that is ultimately unfulfilling to you because you're forced to in order to survive is well adjusted
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Kill yourself disgusting faggot.

>I'm also a civil libertarian, so if people want to take HRT and SRS that's up to them as individuals.
That's commendable.

>My issue is that the medical establishment treats trans people with such extreme privilege while active refusing potentially life saving treatment to people on the basis of it being mildly questionable, or experimental.
I think that people should be able to opt into such treatments as long as they are coherent enough to understand exactly what it is that they're signing up for. I agree that it's unjust to offer some experimental treatments to people with some conditions but refuse people unproven treatments that have been shown to be similarly safe.

With that said I think that the narrative that trans people are treated well by the medical establishment when many avoid seeking help exactly because they've had bad experiences with doctors is questionable. A lot of tranners just illegally buy their hormones on the internet, using bitcoin.

>Additionally trans people are the largest activist group to roll back freedom of expression civil rights, which is totally against my individual civil rights-centric ideology.
Okay, I think that laws that criminalize insults are an issue for sure, but I'll say this: if you look at, say, the original Canadian law everyone panicked about all it said is that service providers can't misgender those they care for.
On another note.. misgendering definitely shouldn't be a crime but, like, if you called your coworker a kike every day you'd probably get into trouble, right? Things should be solved on the social level, not the legal one.

why have we stopped curing gay people then and just let them live?

don't they also need to chop of a dick and build a vagina in that place so they can become what they always were supposed to?

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so they're based?

When being a gamer is a mental illness but being a tranny isn’t.
Clown world

Fucking fantastic, another behavior pattern labeled as a disease in order to sell perscription drugs. This is just more proof that the "disease" model of psychotherapy is a crock of shit, and a dangerous crock of shit at that. Instead of a behavior to be changed, it's a disease to be "cured" with more medication, so that one day everyone will be mentally "healthy" and conform to a single unified state of mind that is defined by a given government power.

And best of all this will further shut down discussion of human behavior because it's much easier to label someone as diseased or disordered than it is to go into the complexities of their personality and the causes and effects of their quirks.

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I suggest you look up the Jonathan/Jessica Yaniv case. He's legitimately going around harassing and suing people, he's vexatious, he's winning, and he was doing it all while using his male name in public.

Haha yes the government imprisoning and torturing people without trial is based haha
Fucking retard

everybody knows the only "treatment" is the rope

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40%

Telling me that I'm not passing will make me kill myself. Also, I'm mentally healthy, you bigot.

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>25.8 deaths per 10,000
>0.26%
That's really not much

>Misgendering someone is the same as calling somebody a kike
Wew

No way they'll let you get that. It'll just be used to deny you jobs and medical coverage.

>B.C. Supreme Court Justice Gregory Bowden subsequently granted the request, concluding that there should not be any further delays to treatment, citing the boy’s risk of suicide. Bowden also went on to declare that any attempts to persuade the boy to abandon treatment, addressing the boy by his birth name or referring to the boy as a girl or with female pronouns “shall be considered to be family violence.”
Ah Canada, nothing to panic over here.

This is something I also don't understand. They want to stop the negative stigma towards mental illness but at the same time are disgusted and offended when you call their problem a mental illness.
Which is it?

Holy shit he looks like John Belushi on HRT

Democracy fuck yeah

What makes it a mental illness?

user, you *are* aware that research on life-saving treatments basically never has controls because you can't put half of your research subjects at risk, right?

>Just trust me bro

>Young Adult Psychological Outcome After Puberty Suppression and Gender Reassignment
pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/134/4/696

>METHODS: A total of 55 young transgender adults (22 transwomen and 33 transmen) who had received puberty suppression during adolescence were assessed 3 times: before the start of puberty suppression (mean age, 13.6 years), when cross-sex hormones were introduced (mean age, 16.7 years), and at least 1 year after gender reassignment surgery (mean age, 20.7 years). Psychological functioning (GD, body image, global functioning, depression, anxiety, emotional and behavioral problems) and objective (social and educational/professional functioning) and subjective (quality of life, satisfaction with life and happiness) well-being were investigated.

>RESULTS: After gender reassignment, in young adulthood, the GD was alleviated and psychological functioning had steadily improved. Well-being was similar to or better than same-age young adults from the general population. Improvements in psychological functioning were positively correlated with postsurgical subjective well-being.

>CONCLUSIONS: A clinical protocol of a multidisciplinary team with mental health professionals, physicians, and surgeons, including puberty suppression, followed by cross-sex hormones and gender reassignment surgery, provides gender dysphoric youth who seek gender reassignment from early puberty on, the opportunity to develop into well-functioning young adults.

This doesn't have to be the case.

We both know what we're discussing right now, user, and that's the dysphoria-and-tranner-pills tranners.

That's literally how the trans people got taken out of the mental illness box, they attacked and intimidated doctors until they got what they wanted.

hard to think about something that's built into the very baseline of your being

literally everyone posting on this site qualifies by virtue of using a site that would make you an instant outcast in any decent social circle to post about video games for years and years of their life

Feelin' sexy today. My sexual ableness is increasing

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i think the problem is that kike is a known derogatory term whereas misgendering and pronouns and shit is still pretty new.

i think if trans people gave people the benefit of the doubt more often people really wouldnt have a problem. the issue is people who flip their shit the first time someone casually says"he"

also as a languagefag the nature and usage of pronouns is a lot different from other more specific nouns that can be offensive. they're used so often and most of the time native speakers dont even think about the pronouns they're using its reflexive

people just dont want people jumping down their throat over nothing. frankly its just as selfish of the trans to think everyone needs to call them the right word all the time or else as it is of the guy who insists on using "he" just to spite

if we could all just spare a little bit of thought for what the other person is feeling instead of both sides going "woe is me" all the time

>We both know what we're discussing right now, user, and that's the dysphoria-and-tranner-pills tranners.
I assumed you were the same one who said
>Since you're making random posts about transgenders being mentally ill I'm sure you support transitioning, the current most effective known treatment right?
Which doesn't say that, and would include people like cosmo who self-diagnosed whereas gender dysphoria is supposed to be a clinical diagnosis

Considering the fucking posts I've been seeing on here in the past three years yeah I would say it's a mental illness

there are people here who "ironically joke" about murdering people every single day over videogames

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It's my opportunity to develop into well-functioning young adult you bigot

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Dane Cook what happened to you

whats funny is most of you brain-dead trannies that cite low quality studies will be skeptical of things like IQ which has several orders of magnitude more research done on it, but take this shit as the word of God. LOL

I've been posting on Yea Forums since 2006. I'm here forever. It's not just a meme. It's a curse. Since I'm here I might as well have some fun and argue with you.

>I don't give a shit about intellectual arguments. If you looked like that you are doomed for life. You look like a fucking clown. No one will take you seriously and 100% of the people will assume you are fucked in the head. We are not robots
>This is a leftist myth.
Social norms can change. People once said that nobody will accept homosexuality because it's innately disgusting. This is no longer the case in some parts of the world.

>It's funny how you push this whole "You are being brainwashed by capitalism and consumerism, you are being affected by society and religion, you are being conditioned" EXCEPT when it comes to you, because you totally not trying to force down your opinion on everyone's throat right? How can you not see the irony in this mentality?
Wait.. if society affecting you is a leftist myth how could the leftists be brainwashing people into accepting all of this nonsense? Which one is it?
Yeah, social change is the result of social pressures, some of which come from propaganda.

>Yeah and common fucking sense and looking at tranny communities for 2 minutes suggest the opposite.
If we could rely on "common sense" we wouldn't need scientists. You don't look for someone with "common sense" to build your airplane. You get an engineer.

>If society is cruel to trans people maybe you should not promote trans people.
Or maybe society should stop being cruel to trans people.

>Not gonna work
People accept homosexuals, where they didn't before.

>No, they do not pass.
Some people objectively do pass. We have many documented accounts of people coming out to their partners and getting murdered by them as a result.

>Makes even less sense
How so?

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>trannies are not ill
>gaming is a disorder

nigga look like ichabod crane

>who had received puberty suppression
Too bad you forget the studies that prove it lowers IQ, fucks up your bone marrow development so you end up with bone problems in your 30s and can fuck up your secondary sex characteristics forever which mean if you did not previously had problems with your gender now you will have.
I have enough doctors in my family to say that the majority of doctor do not support this unless they are forced by the law like in the US. You people act like blocking your LITERAL DEVELOPMENT is like eating a fucking candy. you people are retarded and I despite you. You have absolutely no fucking idea how incredibly complex the human body is. Even a simple ibuprofen can cause side effects. Look at the side effects of birth controls. But no, literally just stop your development bro what could go wrong. You people are sick in the head and now you want to experiment on children. you fags will burn in hell

I don't think they would classify streamers as mentally ill because they get paid for it. That's literally all that is required for something to be "unhealthy" to being "healthy". Having some sort of capital worth to another person.

For the same reason being a sex-addicted slut isn't considered a mental illness if you get paid for being in porn or prostitution. You get paid, so it has some value.

so uhhhhhhhhhhhh

what are the requirements?
because i swear to GOD, every and ALL streamers have it then.

>the aame organization that said trannies and gays are not insane


OYY XONRO!

Trannies
>don't want to harm others, just want to be left alone

Yea Forums
>wants to kill every single motherfucker who disagrees with them or is seen as a "threat" to society (jews, trannies, liberals, everyone who isn't white guys or asian girls)

yeah I'm sure the trannies are the crazy ones

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You can in Canada already, this is good news for the rest of the world if you plan on being lazy as fuck.

Yea Forums(nel) again getting megatriggered like little babies. Exactly like Tumblr. Can't read, just angrily reacts. I laugh when I think about how similar the two websites are. Keep eating the bait.

journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

>The overall mortality for sex-reassigned persons was higher during follow-up (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 1.8–4.3) than for controls of the same birth sex, particularly death from suicide (aHR 19.1; 95% CI 5.8–62.9). Sex-reassigned persons also had an increased risk for suicide attempts (aHR 4.9; 95% CI 2.9–8.5) and psychiatric inpatient care (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 2.0–3.9). Comparisons with controls matched on reassigned sex yielded similar results. Female-to-males, but not male-to-females, had a higher risk for criminal convictions than their respective birth sex controls.

>Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population.

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>You can in Canada
where do I sign up?

as with anything else its defined by success. if the streamer is making livable money then theirs no problem

kinda like that guy oda who draws one piece. if no one bought his manga he'd just be a mentally ill agoraphobe whos obsession with drawing ruined his personal life

money changes the narrative

10 hours a week
literally casually playing 1-2 hours every day classes you as addicted lmao

make sense, this board has resembled a mental house for some years now. no surprise since most posters are genuine children or shut-in manchild addicted to gaming

Where can we get some Extreme Aid for our game illnesses?

Oh no. Bunch of NEETs call me kys online. The horror!

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we dindu nuffin we was weak boyz ;_;

I generally agree with what you wrote - it would be better if everyone were more understanding - but I don't think that asking someone to refer to you in a certain way is that big of a request in most cases. I know it's not exactly the same but when someone changes their name it's generally not considered cool to use their old name after they ask you to do otherwise, right? People could stand to chill the fuck out but it's also pretty basic.

Where is that? How so?

Sex is a protected class but gender expression is not protected. You can't fire someone for being a man or a woman but you can fire them for dressing "inappropriately".

Okay.
Either way, you know where I stand.

What counts as an insult depends on what one finds insulting. Repeatedly calling a coworker named Joe, say, Jack would still be viewed as not okay if you continued to do so after being asked to stop.

IQ's real. What it measures, exactly, is questionable but the correlations between it and success in various areas is undeniable.

>troons have to wear turbo girly shit like a parody otherwise people will just misgender them

you mean appropriately gender them

>Where is that? How so?
look up the Yaniv cases, there are well over 20 at this point.

Be safe out there friend

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Challenge accepted.

You could just jerk off to her tits like a patrician

You've activated my trap card! Your own source reads:

>The caveat with this design is that transsexual persons before sex reassignment might differ from healthy controls (although this bias can be statistically corrected for by adjusting for baseline differences). It is therefore important to note that the current study is only informative with respect to transsexuals persons health after sex reassignment; no inferences can be drawn as to the effectiveness of sex reassignment as a treatment for transsexualism. In other words, the results should not be interpreted such as sex reassignment per se increases morbidity and mortality. Things might have been even worse without sex reassignment. As an analogy, similar studies have found increased somatic morbidity, suicide rate, and overall mortality for patients treated for bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. This is important information, but it does not follow that mood stabilizing treatment or antipsychotic treatment is the culprit.

The author, Cecilia Dhejne, later went on to state that other studies do show that transitioning helps.

That is the face of a package deliveryman wearing makeup.

I think the most effective treatment is a bullet to the head but that's just me

Dont care didnt read not vidya. Take that.

Agreeing with a schizophrenic that he's Napoleon Bonaparte might keep him from killing himself, but it's not treatment.

they were during the glorious flash days, everything has stagnated since then.
youtube.com/watch?v=JnOr7ppyFaA

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my fohken sides

>People once said that nobody will accept homosexuality because it's innately disgusting
Two things,
First of all, a lot of people still find homos disgusting. including women. Literally nothing stops anyone from thinking homos are disgusting unless you want to invent some sort of thought police. Law protects people from actions. you are free to think whatever you want of them.
Second, regardless of what you think of gay people, they are born gay. false equivalence

>Wait.. if society affecting you is a leftist myth how could the leftists be brainwashing people into accepting all of this nonsense?
I've yet to find a single person IRL who believes in more than two genders or a guy who would be willing to date a tranny.
Last time I checked trannies are seething 24/7 their social conditioning is not working

>We have many documented accounts of people coming out to their partners and getting murdered by them as a result.
yeah im sure there are people who do not notice a literal dick on a girl right LMAO dude

>If we could rely on "common sense" we wouldn't need scientists.
Building an airplane is hard science. Sociology and psychology is not.

>Or maybe society should stop being cruel to trans people
This mentality requires the implication that all trans people are perfect and society is cruel to them in an unfair way. You trying to pull "you are just a misogynist" card just with trannies. No one takes even the first one seriously, this is an even weaker attempt.

>People accept homosexuals, where they didn't before.
Homosexuals for the most part look and behave completely normal. Trans people are not

Gay

>If someone transitions and no longer experiences dysphoria they're still trans but no longer ill, understand?

You say the dysphoria is gone but why is it that merely transitioning increases their suicide risk? Why do half of post ops want to kill themselves?

One could argue that bullying and pressures attribute to this but what makes trans more likely to kill themselves than the other LGBQ family?

Eddy from IT?

>Too bad you forget the studies that prove it lowers IQ
Can you please link them? I'm aware of a study that examines one (1) girl.

>fucks up your bone marrow development so you end up with bone problems in your 30s
For good? To what degree?

>and can fuck up your secondary sex characteristics forever which mean if you did not previously had problems with your gender now you will have.
People who don't already have gender issues don't undergo puberty suppression.
Puberty, by the way, can also fuck up your secondary sex characteristics forever if you're trans.

>I have enough doctors in my family to say that the majority of doctor do not support this unless they are forced by the law like in the US.
That's an anecdote. The actual organizations seem to show otherwise.

>You people act like blocking your LITERAL DEVELOPMENT is like eating a fucking candy. you people are retarded and I despite you. You have absolutely no fucking idea how incredibly complex the human body is. Even a simple ibuprofen can cause side effects. Look at the side effects of birth controls. But no, literally just stop your development bro what could go wrong. You people are sick in the head and now you want to experiment on children. you fags will burn in hell
1) Hell does not exist. Neither does God, I'm afraid.
2) I'll trust the doctors over you here, chief.

We live in strange times. Crazy that this thought is not the normal anymore.

You have to be officially diagnosed first, go see a shrink and prove that you need video games to live.

It's not hard, my dumbass friend who plays WoW for 10 hours a day got it in less than a month

im diagnosed with severe anxiety but i dont get any neet bucks, so where do i sign up for the buckroos

because its a bullshit argument. you dont see pedos and furries killing themselves and they are even more hated by society. trannies hate themselves and look for some retarded blame. they fail to see thair their self hate is completely rational. if i looked and behaved like that i would hate myself too

Anxiety isn't officially recognized as a disability...it has to be gaming addiction.

yes i am insane
give me disability money faggots

Were gonna be hearing plenty of fucked up stories like this in decades to come. Then we will finally start fucking these freaks over. people will look back and be fucking shocked we let it go so far.

well said, literally who

it is. take a break from tv and internet and you'll see

Aren't there militant trannies grooming children?

Trans people don't believe anything untrue to be true, though. They don't think they have the other sex of chromosomes, that they look differently from the way they really do and so on and so forth. Gender!=sex.

You fucking niggers are retarded since this is gonna fucking ruin things at a social level. Reminder that while going for a consult with a psychologist doesn't mean that you're insane it'll still cause people to view it as such. It's a stigma. "Oh, he play video games? Guess he has a disorder."

damn it fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>People who don't already have gender issues don't undergo puberty suppression

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This poster is right and all the butthurt it generated only proves how equally stupid Yea Forums ideologues are.

Pic related is from Cornell and gets you banned by trumpito sucking jannies

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yup. just wait till your gender neutral baby is 30. they'll have some shit to say on 60 minutes

I mean I don’t hate game journalists. I just hate the ones that do shit like confusing Nero for Dante, then when people point it out they say “children are mad at me for getting the wrong brother” even though they’re not brothers either.
Sadly this is a huge majority.

Many more militant neocons/crazies on /pol/ grooming children (you can go on there right now to see that shit) than there are militant trannies. Where the fuck did you even hear about that? /pol/ ?

DESPITE

BASED

>Can you please link them? I'm aware of a study that examines one (1) girl.
Literally google puberty blocker iq decreasement and this is the first result
reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/b83ezq/lupron_puberty_blockers_at_least_3_studies/

>For good? To what degree?
To a degree where your bone never develops properly and you are fucked for life.

>People who don't already have gender issues don't undergo puberty suppression.
We are talking about dumb teenagers. teenagers are confused as fuck, does not mean they should be pushed into ruining their life.
Literally everyone had a point in life when they were confused about their body

>The actual organizations seem to show otherwise
Actual organizations who want to push trannies

>2) I'll trust the doctors over you here, chief.
Dude it can be hard to get a Finasteride prescription against balding, which only decreases DHT by 70%. even that is hard to get because doctors dont like prescribing any hormone related stuff because it can cause major problems. the same reason steroids are illegal. doctors do not want to do this shit unless they are forced to do so

Sooo in 2022
I'll go to a therapist and show them my JRPG Faggot hours and I could make the government pay for my gay shit forever. Oh is it that to get the money I have to give up my games? I want to be a Neet forever then die in my own filth

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>Where the fuck did you even hear about that?
Could it be the constant pro-tranny posting on random boards like Yea Forums where (despite the rules) most of the posters are underage?

>gender neutral baby
kys

Really weird how much they shill their bullshit

oh you didn't know?
yeah its happening

>Two things,
>First of all, a lot of people still find homos disgusting. including women. Literally nothing stops anyone from thinking homos are disgusting unless you want to invent some sort of thought police. Law protects people from actions. you are free to think whatever you want of them.

Acceptance of homosexuals is factually increasing, year after year.

>Second, regardless of what you think of gay people, they are born gay. false equivalence
1) The identical twin of a trans person is many times more likely to be trans as well. It's entirely plausible that one is born trans.
2) It's unclear whether people are born gay or are just predisposed toward becoming gay. What's clear is that sexual orientation can't be changed through treatments after it is formed.

>I've yet to find a single person IRL who believes in more than two genders or a guy who would be willing to date a tranny.
>Last time I checked trannies are seething 24/7 their social conditioning is not working
That's anecdotal, user. Far more people accept tranners now when compared to 10, 20 or 30 years ago.

>yeah im sure there are people who do not notice a literal dick on a girl right LMAO dude
m8 you don't always fuck on the first date

>Building an airplane is hard science. Sociology and psychology is not.
"Common sense" is not even a soft science.

>This mentality requires the implication that all trans people are perfect and society is cruel to them in an unfair way.
...How? Racism exists but that doesn't mean every member of the race people are prejudiced against is perfect.

>You trying to pull "you are just a misogynist" card just with trannies.
m80 are you pretending that people don't constantly mistreat tranners

>Homosexuals for the most part look and behave completely normal. Trans people are not
That sure didn't matter for the fundies 10 years ago..

You mean you aren't?

>Could it be the constant pro-tranny posting on random boards like Yea Forums where (despite the rules) most of the posters are underage?
>saying "trannies are okay" is grooming
talk to your therapist, because saying you're alright with people existing is not mental conditioning. otherwise the only way to not "groom" a kid is to fucking not speak to them

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One is backed by corporate oligarchs and the other are internet neckbeards.

Does this mean NEETs get another government paycheck??

dilate tranny

>wahhhh we're poor and evil but hey we're poor!

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goy

As long as it gets me free money, I will play along.

I think that's a little different then 40% of an entire demographic.

i remember listening to an art bell show years back and his guest was talking about how "they" are gonna try and create an enslaved cyborg populace and the first step in getting people to accept this is to break down the walls of gender

this was in like the 90s. gotta say i'm slightly disturbed

>2) I'll trust the doctors over you here, chief.
Doctor's can be saints, or they can be butchers. Based on one doctor they had to perform surgery on my feet cuz they thought I had a flat foot. Luckily a 2nd opinion saved me (I was a kid, so I thank my mother for that). Can't say the same about my other relatives, like my grandmother who's sinus problems were confused as teeth problems and had all her teeth taken out. She then discovered that the doctors left a needle inside her gums, then they realized it was problem with her sinuses, or my mother who got hepatitis b caused by unsanitary dentist tools.

Doctors are human, humans are flawed, humans also have convictions, humans also thought that electroshock fixed housewives and gays, humans are political animals, humans can be bought, humans can do things out of malice, doctors were priests and monks once too, doctors also took part in pic related.

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Is being poor supposed to be a good thing that shows your side is worth supporting? In what world has being poor ever been a moral virtue?

>Tranny isn't a mental illess anymore

lol

>The most effective treatment for a depressive is to let them slit their wrists
>The most effective treatment for an anorexic is to let them starve themselves
>The most effective treatment for someone with body dysmorphia is to let them pump themselves full of collagen and silicone

cant wait to put white incel gamers into mental institutions

>Criticizing my corporate masters is literally communism!

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the first two things do not decrease suicide rate but the third thing does.

>It's entirely plausible that one is born trans.
One could indeed be born with a genetic predisposition to experience gender dysphoria or even autogynephilia later in life. Both don't directly translate to the want of "transitioning", people can live with a degree of those conditions and not concretely think about transitioning at all. It's the same with addictions (including gaming), some people are genetically more prone to develop addiction. People prone to suffering from a gaming addicition will not develop the addiction without, you know, access to games.

Being "trans" is not something people are born as however. It requires both a degree of mental and sexual (mal)development not found in infants as wel as (obviously) surgery to actually change physical characteristics.

>the us
>mental institutions

there's a reason why such a high number of homeless people are homeless simply because they're fucking insane and can't really take care of themselves

one dies because of a shitty thankless world and the other dies because of their own deluded stupidity.

you decide which one is it

Poorfags don't have the resources to make entire countries bend to their whims.

>In what world has being poor ever been a moral virtue?
Try any religion and any philosophy that condemns excess decadence

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>most effective
Euthanasia/assisted suicide is also the most effective cancer treatment in the world, you don't see medics tell cancer patients to bite the bullet.

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Im not mad, I've got papers that say that Im not mad
Not many got those you know?

>You say the dysphoria is gone but why is it that merely transitioning increases their suicide risk?
It doesn't. It reduces it. See the studies quoted here:
>Why do half of post ops want to kill themselves?
They don't. The attempt rate includes people who have not undergone treatment. Transitioning halves suicidality in adults and reduces it to baseline levels if you look at teens with supportive parents.

>One could argue that bullying and pressures attribute to this but what makes trans more likely to kill themselves than the other LGBQ family?
Gay acceptance has increased by orders of magnitude. Trans acceptance is still very high. Plus, it's harder to hide the fact that you're a tranner.

>Literally google puberty blocker iq decreasement and this is the first result
Thanks.
The third study is the one I was thinking of. I wasn't familiar with the first two. Yes, it appears that the treatment reduces the IQ of people who are currently undergoing it. Is there any data on how these people do after the treatment?
With that said.. while this is an unfortunate consequence it might still beat the alternative.

>To a degree where your bone never develops properly and you are fucked for life.
What does that mean, objectively? If you can just post a source like you did before.

>We are talking about dumb teenagers. teenagers are confused as fuck, does not mean they should be pushed into ruining their life.
user, doctors are not stupid. The study that found that most children desist before the age of 18 was conducted by a clinic famous for helping trans teens transition. Physicians are perfectly aware that their patients need them to guide them. They don't just go with whatever they say. They cautiously try to figure out whether the kid in front of them will desist or not.

>Actual organizations who want to push trannies
Come on.

>doctors do not want to do this shit
My doctor tried to put me on Fin right away lol

Litteraly the same thing, their brains just fuck up in recognizing their actual sex, hence dysphoria and the 40%.

I read that story. They were "encouraging" kids who identify as gay to transition. The Iran Method.

In all your posts you haven't once denied being a mentally ill 40%. No one will listen to you here tranny.

Why are so many trannies communists? They're completely dependent on a pharmaceutical industry that isn't torn by war and revolutionary armies aren't going to have hormones lying about.

Please let this be a thing.
I can't get disability for fucked up pain everyday but maybe I can get it for the vidya addiction I picked up as a result of it.

>it reduce it

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5649411/

>Transgender individuals assigned female sex at birth, who plan to transition, or who have already transitioned report greater suicide ideation than their peers

This. There was a doctor from my state who was putting people on chemo therapy who didn't have cancer so he could collect money from insurance. Also he was putting people in longer sessions than normal too. He made millions off of it, change some people forever, ended up killing some too. If you believe every doctor at face value you're a retard. Second opinions, DYOR, invaluable.

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They don't realize communism never works. They just want free shit.

i once saw a good post by an actual tranny who frequented these communities. because these groups delude themselves into thinking they are unhappy because of capitalism. people dont accept them because of capitalism, they dont get free treatment because of capitalism, etc. its incredibly stupid but the point is they blame everything on capitalism

Small problem with your logic. You fail to account for the number who try to transition on their own by starting HRT and not consulting a psychiatrist or a medical professional. Frankly permanently damaging someone's genitalia is not the play. A bullet is cheaper and annoys me less.

There's hope yet

kek
it's 2019, you arent cool unless you have a disorder.

I should probably clarify this: "game bloggers" aren't people who care about. "Game bloggers" are people who hate video games more than anything else, and spend their entire free time reading absolutely everything people who play video games write to find more reasons to hate them.

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Okay, but what data we have available sure does seem to support the conclusion that CAREFULLY SCREENED children can benefit from transitioning.

Personally I'm in the predisposition camp, both for gender dysphoria and for sexual orientation, so I sort of agree, but it is possible that one is set on a trajectory, at birth, that will eventually cause them to feel uncomfortable with the sexed characteristics of their body. When I and people like me say that it is plausible that one is "born trans" they mean that one is born on this trajectory.

>Trannies
>don't want to harm others, just want to be left alone
Except they do want to push narratives and bring up their irrelevant shit everywhere. I was watching a House Flipper stream a few days ago and whenever the guy started rolling out grass on the lawn. Normally that wouldn't be a problem, except it was called turf.
Naturally, tons of trannies got super triggered in chat and started spamming FUCK TERFS and other retarded shit. If they want to be left alone, they should try shutting the fuck up more often.

Do you have a single fact to back that up?

I AGREE FELLOW GAMER WE HAVE TO RISE UP BEFORE THE STACIES PROSECUTE US FURTHER BROTHER

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After knowing some people with serious medical issues and watching them deal with doctors I concluded one thing. I don't think doctors are all that different from the quacks in medieval times. Technology is better, nursing is better, and we know how to treat immediate causes of death. So people survive more. But the doctors are the same idiots.

embryo.asu.edu/pages/david-reimer-and-john-money-gender-reassignment-controversy-johnjoan-case

Now I'm not saying pushers of transgender shit should be killed.....think of it more as late-term abortion.

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>please put gay/tranny/feminist stuff into your video games
>MAKE YOUR OWN GAMES
>ok, we made our own games
>REEEEEE THEY ARE TAKING OVER OUR GAMES !!!!!1!

i think i only ever saw a tranny and i don't know if it was just an ugly woman. So yeah i don't treat them badly

The very same paragraph goes on to state:
>Interestingly, Moody et al. (2015) found that transgender people with intentions to or who actually transition reported less suicide ideation, which contrasts aforementioned findings by Rood et al. (2015).

There's a bunch of studies that show that transitioning reduces suicidality and one that says that, in a given situation, it seems to increase it. This makes me think that the result of this study is essentially noise.

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Playing games for 12 hours a day 7 days a week is not fucking healthy for your mind. Of course it is a disorder.

>"hey kids these tranny characters are brave, strong and powerful, don't you wish you could be as cool? well ask your parents and you can start taking hormone blockers right away!"

ITS ALL BECAUSE WE DIDN'T FUCKING RISE UP!

NOW THEY SEE ME ON THE SAME TIER AS SOMEONE LIKE FUCKING CHRIS-CHAN! ON THE SAME TIER AS A LITERAL FUCKING RETARD!

I'LL TEACH THEM! I'LL TEACH THEM ALL!!!!!

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Shut the fuck up tranny its just a fucking game
Chopping your dick off and pretending its a vagana isnt normal

Fun fact: the man who exposed John Money is named Milton Diamond and the reason why he thought John Money was full of shit is because he believes that gender identity is rooted in biology. Diamond argued that some of the behavioral differences between men and women are innate while Money argued that they're mostly constructed.

Diamond now supports the idea that transsexuality is essentially a sort of neural intersexuality.
hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/2015to2019/2016-transsexualism.html

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The only benefit is the prevention of suicide and self-harm. Another thing that can prevent that is a straight-jacket too. Are you sure that we can consider, idk, not killing yourself as a magical breakthrough enough to change social norms?
>and we know how to treat immediate causes of death
That's the thing. Medicine today managed to only master this area in particular, but didn't manage to master long-term illnesses and slow killers. It's the reason why shitty 3rd world countries with bad tech still has medical schools where they teach basic stuff like first aid and what not, but do not have the funds and tech to prepare them for other things.

>thinking that playing video games normally is the same as playing video games for hours on end, at the cost of your own health
Leave it to Yea Forums to fail at reading comprehension.

Games with dog companions sniffing out lies?

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It's not mutually exclusive, faggot. Both can a disorder at the same time.

trannies defend this
keep your degeneracy to yourself and no one will give a single fuck. keep bitching and watch the hate keep rolling in

>The only benefit is the prevention of suicide and self-harm. Another thing that can prevent that is a straight-jacket too. Are you sure that we can consider, idk, not killing yourself as a magical breakthrough enough to change social norms?
Uh user I think that being out and about, laughing and smiling and being productive, beats being locked up in some institution.
What's so great about the social norms we have? Why not change them?

Because as we all know, the games industry is free of money grubbing jews.

>one psychologist screws over another for their ideas
sounds about right

>i-it's just noise
Yeah, I'm sure those hormones sellers have good studies
journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

We've cured a bunch of shit in the last century though

games where suicide isn't the only game over?

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Better be in a striaghtjacket that making us suffer their illness desu.

I played league for 8-10 hours a day at least 15 days this month feels good

you know, you can actually read these studies instead of just calling them wrong and hoping you're not called out for it

We must change society

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Is it your job? If not. You're mentally ill.

THESIS AND ANTI THESIS

HEGELIAN DIALECTICS

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I bet they killed the dog because it refused to believe the lie

Hormones are dirt cheap m8
If one study find something and a whole lot of other studies find the opposite what are we to conclude?

Your own source reads:
>The caveat with this design is that transsexual persons before sex reassignment might differ from healthy controls (although this bias can be statistically corrected for by adjusting for baseline differences). It is therefore important to note that the current study is only informative with respect to transsexuals persons health after sex reassignment; no inferences can be drawn as to the effectiveness of sex reassignment as a treatment for transsexualism. In other words, the results should not be interpreted such as sex reassignment per se increases morbidity and mortality. Things might have been even worse without sex reassignment. As an analogy, similar studies have found increased somatic morbidity, suicide rate, and overall mortality for patients treated for bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. This is important information, but it does not follow that mood stabilizing treatment or antipsychotic treatment is the culprit.

The lead author, Cecilia Dhejne, later stated that there are other studies that do show that transitioning is an effective treatment.

Change them if they genuinely fuck up, but the tranny reason is not enough to change the norms. Not killing yourself and not butchering yourself is not hard, and preventing someone from doing that is not enough for some revolutionary societal change, it ain't even worth a round of applause.
I didn't say that there isn't progress, but there's always room for malpractice.

FUCK trannies.

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Honestly I might be I just checked my playtime and my 2 year old account has eclipsed the one that was started in season 2.

Why?

What's the downside to changing the norms? The real reason is this: we should strive to tolerate one another in order to allow people to pursue their own happiness, following whatever strange path that sends them down on, as long as they don't harm others.

what a based motherfucking textwall

Trannies only pass if they're Asian and were already feminine before hormones.

My happiness trumps your happiness, and your happiness trumps mine. Also happiness as a goal is a shit, should be treated as a side effect and not as a goal.

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