Tfw no "if you meet the Buddha, kill the Buddha" final boss fight

Can't say I have noticed
Does anyone else really like the position he puts his hand in when he eavesdrops? It's odd-looking enough to subtly imply that it's some sort of shinobi technique for redirecting soundwaves. This pic doesn't really capture it, you have to take a close look in-game. Very small touch but it really stuck out to me for some reason

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The final battle with the Buddha would be an argument between you and him about the nature of dharma.

it's just him placing his hand near his ear like a normal person would

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He twirls a flower and smiles and if you don't smile back you have to play the whole game over again ten thousand times
Nah, he's holding his fingers in this very specific position that's nearly impossible to replicate. Again, it's hard to see it in a still image from just one perspective. It creates a kind of funnel across his palm towards his ear

Fun fact, that "kill the buddha" clause was added to the religion to make it resistant to future "buddhas" changing the course.

no the point is that you should not treat the Buddha as some kind of god or object of worship

My god you are a dumbass

Why did you leave the equivalent of a downvote and then tearfully go quiet?

I'm just shitposting, you're alright
I still think your theory is very flawed
For one, Buddhism outright predicts that future Buddhas will emerge
Second, the "kill the buddha" idea is unique to Zen, and isn't codified at all, it's just found in a few koans
Third, that doesn't explain "A master of Zen? You will kill him, too"
It's making a much more subtle point than "no one who claims to be buddha is buddha"

>For one, Buddhism outright predicts that future Buddhas will emerge
That's right, rather than try to wrangle the "future messiah" problem like other religions have tried unsuccessfully (by saying they're all false prophets) buddhism just says the future buddhas are all real buddhas and you should kill them, which unambiguously prevents the problem.

>Third, that doesn't explain "A master of Zen? You will kill him, too"
A lesser charlatan is just as dangerous to the religion.

>buddhism just says the future buddhas are all real buddhas and you should kill them
Once again, no it doesn't
Zen buddhism is just one school of Mahayana buddhism, which is itself just one of the three major branches
>A lesser charlatan is just as dangerous to the religion.
Here, take a look at the full context of these lines and think about what else it could mean

KOAN:
A monk asked Joshu, "Has the dog the Buddha nature?"
Joshu replied, "Mu (nothing)!"

MUMON'S COMMENTARY:
For the pursuit of Zen, you must pass through the barriers
(gates) set up by the Zen masters. To attain his mysterious
awareness one must completely uproot all the normal workings
of one's mind. If you do not pass through the barriers, nor uproot
the normal workings of your mind, whatever you do and
whatever you think is a tangle of ghost. Now what are the
barriers? This one word "Mu" is the sole barrier. This is why it is
called the Gateless Gate of Zen. The one who passes through
this barrier shall meet with Joshu face to face and also see with
the same eyes, hear with the same ears and walk together in the
long train of the patriarchs. Wouldn't that be pleasant?
Would you like to pass through this barrier? Then concentrate
your whole body, with its 360 bones and joints, and 84,000 hair
follicles, into this question of what "Mu" is; day and night,
without ceasing, hold it before you. (1/2)

(2/2) It is neither nothingness, nor
its relative "not" of "is" and "is not." It must be like gulping a hot
iron ball that you can neither swallow nor spit out.
Then, all the useless knowledge you have diligently learned
till now is thrown away. As a fruit ripening in season, your
internality and externality spontaneously become one. As with a
mute man who had had a dream, you know it for sure and yet
cannot say it. Indeed your ego-shell suddenly is crushed, you can
shake heaven and earth. Just as with getting ahold of a great
sword of a general, when you meet Buddha you will kill Buddha.
A master of Zen? You will kill him, too. As you stand on the
brink of life and death, you are absolutely free. You can enter
any world as if it were your own playground. How do you
concentrate on this Mu? Pour every ounce of your entire energy
into it and do not give up, then a torch of truth will illuminate the
entire universe.

MUMON'S POEM:
Has a dog the Buddha nature?
This is a matter of life and death.
If you wonder whether a dog has it or not,
You certainly lose your body and life!

The dragon was that, kinda.

So why did Shura Sekiro stop after wiping out Ashina? There's still an entire country of Japan for him to rampage through. Also, the Shura ending feels like it comes out of nowhere, Sekiro has the personality of a wooden log with MUH LOYALTY tacked on it so you can't really tell when he starts enjoying killing enough that he becomes the embodiment of carnage.

Why did you point out that there are denominations within Buddhism as if it had anything to do with what we're talking about?

You sound like a genuine redditor.

The Buddha is a dry shit stick

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On the final boss (I'm pretty sure) now, I stuck with Kuro and betrayed Owl. Without spoiling anything, what path should I focus on for NG+?

*holds up finger*

you might be right - i looked it up,

Zen, Nichiren, and Amida Buddhism - along with the native Shinto stuff.

so yeah, there's probably something there

Did you fight Owl(Father)?
The only route with different bosses is the team up with Owl one, the rest is just different endings that you directly select in a dialogue box at the very end if you did everything you need to unlock them

You're saying "buddhism stuck this clause on for strategic reasons" and I'm telling you why that isn't true in the first place, but more importantly that only one of many schools of buddhism even observe that sentiment

Yes I fought him, I guess I'll stick with him on my next playthrough

>Yes I fought him
I could have asked it better, I mean that there are 2 different Owl fights, Great Shinobi Owl and Owl(Father), and both are worth fighting

I'm not sure which one it was, it was on the same roof as the lightning Genichiro fight. He asked me to join him instead of Kuro and was disappointed when I turned him down

If you eavesdrop on Emma and Kuro you get a bell that lets you enter Owl's memories of the Hirata Estate and there you can fight 2 minibosses and a new version of Owl with a new moveset
It's probably too late for you already if you are fighting the final boss

This.
Furthermore a Buddha doesn't strictly speaking exist. Having realized his oneness with everything, he isn't something that can be narrowed down and defined. "A Buddha" is just another mental label that exists only in your mind; a concept. So if you see "a Buddha", what you are actually seeing is your own conceptualization of a Buddha and not what's really there. As such it's an obstacle to your own awakening. If you truly saw, you would only see yourself.

You must be ashamed to give away your treasure-words like this!

>If you eavesdrop on Emma and Kuro
wtf? when?

after Kuro makes the incense and Ema is still near the tower

FUCK SHICHIMEN WARRIORS
WHY DO I STILL DIE INSTANTLY EVEN WITH THE PHOENIX UMBRELLA

Stack your terror resistance

Nab the Anti-air Deathblow Text. If you jump at them when they leap into the air, you get a free deathblow regardless of their posture.

>phoenix umbrella
Kek.

itt: weebs talking about budhism when they never come out of their stinky cabes