I wanna go down the Touhou rabbit hole

Here

I'd say start with 6 or 7. 7 is more noob friendly and easier one, while 6 has no visible hitbox and harder patterns.

>7 is more noob friendly and easier one
tfw still cant 1cc on normal

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Honestly you can start with any but 1 (Arkanoid clone), 3,9 (VS shmups) and 15 (which is designed fairly differently)

What about 1 2 3 4 and 5?

They are for PC-98 and has different graphics and separate storyline. You can play them with emulator.
They are fine actually. You can start from 1 if you like Arkanoid on crack, otherwise start from 2.
Touhou 5 is kino btw.

Ten Desires is cool.
and if you just play the shoot em ups for the gameplay it's not much of a rabbit hole honestly. You might end up disappointed because a lot of the character interactions and whatnot are inane.

Well I guess the true rabbit hole is the manga and print works.

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I wouldn't say 7 is all that easy. It got it gruesome parts, especially the last boss. 8 is the easy one.

Never played this genre,when you play where do you look?

Start with Hisoutensoku. Maybe dabble in the non-mainline games like Shoot the Bullet and Impossible Spell Card - then go to fan-made ones like Rhythm Carnival, Labyrinth, and Genius of Sappheiros.

You look at the entire pattern first then the close surrounding of your player.

I honestly have no problems with Yuyuko, Youmu, and her non spellcards, however, are a different matter.

Reisen only sells medicine on Eirin's orders, I don't think she gives a single fuck about taking over the human village. Aya is making shit up, again.
Granted I haven't read FS, but it really doesn't sound like something Reisen would do.

What kind of game/genre do you wish to become part of official games other than the basic shmup?
Unique shmup like StB and PoFV counts.

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Reisen hypnotized Kosuzu at one point. I think her business is more than just selling medicine under orders.
Having the humans dependant on Eientei medicine could work well for their business, I guess

ZUN should make a 2hu platformer desu

But she can't use her eyes for hypnosis. Maybe what she actually did was make Kosuzu calmer so she would listen to her deal better? And she got punished by Eirin after that, Reisen was probably just trying to impress her master by doing her own thing. Now THAT sounds like something she'd do. And even then that's only pre-LoLK Reisen.

Play this game!

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Just start with the porn

moriyashrine.org/ is where I got mine from way back when.
Well, it was a weebly site when I went there, but same place.

As much as I like PoFV I can't even get my friends to play Twinkle Star Sprites with me let alone a new game of that type.
Another Impossible Spell Card would be nice, but according to the Omake it was a lot of crunch and required the most playtesting out of any game, so I doubt he'll do one.

The true 2hu rabbit hole is the music arranges. Tons of indie music circle exist solely for 2hu music.

I mean, just how many TBs of 2hu music are there by now?

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Name one good thing about TD

Night Sakura of Death Spirits

stage 4/5/6 theme and miko's theme
very creative and fun danmaku from every boss

It's the easiest game

Stage 1 theme
Stage 3 boss theme (best stage 3 boss theme in series)
Stage 3 boss fight
Stage 4 stage and boss theme
Stage 5 theme
youtube.com/watch?v=enRp4h3nQs0

To hell with Yoshika though.

The most current torrent is at 1.7TB

Futo's smug face and boat riding skills

Name one good stage.
lol

Game difficulty is decided by how many extends and bombs it gives you.
Anyone who says otherwise is a dumb fucking hack.
Ergo, TD is not easy, because it makes you pry both from its cold dead hands.
Anyone who says otherwise is a dumb fucking hack.

What about stage 6 theme?
Is there a better ZUNtz than this?
youtube.com/watch?v=FPpwwPYgoAc

inb4 that one LoLK 1cc with miss/bomb every chapter

My nigga

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The atmosphere

The main menu theme is pretty good ZUNtz

What is the hardest boss' non-spell in the series?

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You're mom's
lol

But TD is so easy that you dont even need bombs on normal or hard mode. Also, you can finish the first stage on easy mode without moving if you bomb correctly. How hard can it be?

It's good, but there are already plenty of better 6 themes.
Ultimate Truth, Voyager, Fires of Hokkai, Faraway Sea are all better.

What happened to Reisen after LoLK?

>do flandre fight
>maze of love fucks me up but otherwise manage to capture most of her spells, including and then there will be none
>completely panic during ripples of 495 years and end up bombing like 3 times

Still managed to beat her, but man, that last spell gets quite crazy at the end.

store.steampowered.com/curator/32575294-ARCADE-MASTER-RACE/

Don't play Touhou.

Doremy's RNG balls

Hey icycalm what's up?

Character development. Scary, I know. Basically she acts somewhat differently than before.

if you don't give a shit about the ""story"" of Touhou, any of them. If you care about the ""story"" of Touhou start with PCB, you're gonna learn quickly that despite EoSD's presence, everything related to SDM is never expanded on. All you get out of EoSD is Cirno, Sakuya, and Remilla exist.

>required the most playtesting out of any game

And it turned out to be the best Touhou game.

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ZUN just need to put more effort into his games, or rather, more bug/balance-checking.

>Basically she acts somewhat differently than before

Isn't that the case with pretty much every character that becomes playable?
I recall people going on about how Sanae was a nice girl when MoF released, and some were assuming the human that causes Koishi to want to open her 3rd eye again was her. Then UFO came out and it changed things.

But Sanae was nice in UFO. Her trying to be Reimu was pretty cute

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>and some were assuming the human that causes Koishi to want to open her 3rd eye again was SANAE
Jesus Christ.

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>bombs can be used to avoid danger and deaths

Except when it's either dying before the chance to use bombs or bombspamming at any slight of danger that I run out of bombs at Stage 5.
That's why I prioritize lives than bombs.

>tfw rarely use bombs and most of the time die with like, 2 or 3 in stock

have you tried just not getting hit?

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a Cotton clone including co-op

Sakuya general

So do you guys play keyboard or controller

>not using bombs against Byakuren
Props to you if you can actually survive her Star Maelstrom and her bullshit non spells

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But ZUN, one life means 2 bombs+a miss

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If it were that easy people wouldn't be here sharing their difficulties, wouldn't they?

If you can get past Shou that is.

Green UFO gives a full bomb and one piece

That'd be great.
I'm happy we're getting a Cotton remake.

Don't touch Hisoutensoku
Not because it's bad, quite the opposite, it's the best fightan ever but you won't find anyone to play it with and it will nag you forever.

UFO got a whole lot easier when I realized how much better the return on greens was over reds

Her nonspells are mostly just streaming
Star Maelstrom is some shit though, the human brain wasn't meant to process curved lasers

if a shmup shits the bed so hard with movement that keyboard is a chore to use you shouldn't even bother. I'm going off on a tangent but my favorite meme for a shit shmup is having 3 movement speeds you need to toggle through, at that point it is shittier than only being limited to one speed

Keyboard like true master race

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Arcade stick

Which one?

>not having 2hufriend to play with

Used to have one in college before we graduated.
Now there's no chance for me to have someone to play with again since netplay sucks from kangarooland.

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Anyone want to do PoFV? I can host.

I liked 10 the least. It felt way bland compared to the others. I'd suggest starting with 6, 7, or 8 depending on the person.

>recently got into 2hu
>finally managed to 1cc IN on easy
The games do a pretty good job at making you feel your progress, it's addicting.

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What kind of development?
Granted I didn't pay attention to her AoCF dialogue. Did she become more righteous or what?

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based
keyboard is more precise but stick just feels right

Wait, you didn't get to fight Kaguya/Eirin, did you?

Examples include hating lunarians, being less cowardly and not being a bragging brat. She's just more mature in general.
In AoCF she only wants to beat the shit out of anyone who looked down on her. It's not really her, but it is her true feelings. That's what Doremy said anyway.

Took her quite some time to realize that Lunarians are bunch of cunts, except those who left the moon.

Disco cave with wicked hermit.

I did fight Kaguya and got a good end, which confused me because I thought that would only happen in Normal and up.

I guess IN is the only exception

EoSD, MoF and TD are the only exceptions in that

Play the PC98 games then EOSD (6)
Rest are just generic clones of 6

4 and 5 are generic clones of 2

What is your opinion about Grimoire of Usami?

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>Reimers
it made me dislike Sumi even more

The fuck is a Reimers?

just read GoU, she drops that nickname multiple times. It isn't even a shit translation thing Sumi just is that obnoxious

There is nothing wrong with Reimucchi, though

play literally any other shmup instead

People sure like Miko a lot.

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she practically oozes charisma
I suppose it comes with being former emperor of Japan

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It was really good, too bad that the second part lacks things like explaining the lore behind danmakus, and the comments also become pointless

>former emperor of Japan
She was a regent, not emperor

it's pretty nice, and while it's a lot more lively than Grimoire of Marisa was, it's also a lot more pointless, and I miss all the unique sigils that were in GoM

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>unga bunga beam is 2nd shortest
what a loser

I'm currently reading it and just got to this page.
So far Youmu keep giving low scores and pointless comments compared to other judges. What's up with that?

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I imagine Marisa used to practice Master Spark by firing it upwards and the constant pressure fucked up her height.

I'm disappointed that the sigils doesn't look like those in ground fighting games.
These were the coolest thing.

>gameplay it's not much of a rabbit hole honestly
t. 1cc shitter

mokous fucking bullshit high speed spam attack near the end of her fight
fortunately it's not long, but i've never come close to capturing it

Because she's a dork

she's a fucking moron

isn't Youmu's role in the new game she got lost on the way to the kitchen and ended up in Hell? She isn't very bright

youmu is a dumb dork and a waste of space. Sanae should have been the third protagonist.

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Helping Lily relieve her stress!

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Sounds like she is the dumb brute among the protags

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Don't worry. They all won't be playable again after this.
Sakuya, Youmu and Sanae already got their fair share.

>replacing dork with nerd
Wow, that's so much better.

How do i beat this spellcard in DS? It's the only one I still need to clear in order to finish the game
Are the green bullets aimed?

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git gud fgt

You just need to dodge all the bullets and no, they're not aimed.

they're random. Aya's moving so fast that even when viewfinding she's still way too fast to try to aim for so I just got up close and took horizontal shots
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>youmu is a dumb dork and a waste of space.
Correct.
>Sanae should have been the third protagonist.
She already had her three playable appearances like all the rest, it's bunny's time to shine now!

>tfw no game where all playable characters are extra stage bosses

IN is the only game that even remotely gets close to this idea with Last Words

the closest you'll get is Ten Desires,
>Reimu was an EX boss in Seihou
>Marisa was an EX boss in Seihou
>Sanae was an EX stage midboss in SA
Youmu's got nothing though.

>Youmu "big swords slashes in shooting game" Konpaku is a waste of space

How bout you eat shit, faggot

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Is there a game where Sanae isn't mediocre?

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Soku, instead of mediocre she is just plain bad

Is there any stopping the Chad Prince?

UFO SanaeB, LoLK

LoLK Reisen is better

You mean like this?

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Speaking of Sanae B, she made this really easy
Which one should I do next? 11,14 and 15 left

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Not being the best doesn't mean you're mediocre

I think UFO(12) is the best starter. It's got a nice palate, fun bosses, a fairly clear gimmick mechanic, and curvy lasers.
If you want the easiest to clear, choose Imperishable Night (8)
If you want to get fucked up choose Subterranean Animism (11)

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Double Spoiler

11 and 15 are two hardest games in the series. 14 is almost MoF-lite.
Take your pick.

Only talking about the extras, I beat both of those already (SA on hard)

Koishi is basically the same as Suwako. Hard until you figure out each card's gimmick, then pretty easy.

Well Raiko is quite hard for Extra, more than Koishi even. Heca beats them both though.

Koishi it is, thanks anons

This.
Does anyone have the pic with all the sigils?

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What's the science behind ppl playing bullethells that are obsuredly hard? Is it actually easier than it looks?

They ARE easier than they look. I'm a total beginner, and I started around a week or two ago with EoSD, and I can already get to the final boss. Of course, there's still a long way to go

for example, most of those bullets don't go near the player at all. You have to figure out how to dodge the ones that will, but obviously it looks more overbearing than it is.

They really are easier than they look. Your hitbox is really quite small, and most things can be dodged using simple movements.

>They ARE easier than they look.
>I'm a total beginner, and I started around a week or two ago with EoSD, and I can already get to the final boss

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They're hard but satisfying. The addiction comes from dying and realizing that you could have dodged that, thus pushing you to try again

because you are allowed to make mistakes. Also Touhou (like a good chunk of shmups) can be beaten without firing a single bullet or bomb. It is literally entire focus is on not getting hit and pattern recognition (not memorization by the way, good luck trying to beat a shmup on pure memorization when you can't execute shit)

For Touhou, yes. The bullets filling the screen could look intimidating but in the end you only need to dodge few bullets and find a safe space through the bullet maze.
People call it more akin to puzzle game for a reason.