Here is your lootbox ban bill bro

she is basically a ghost

>game devs literally have to put titties back into their games to sell their shitty lootboxes

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yeah, but you can argue the terminology of the act versus the implied meaning of the legislator.

The terminology is minor only but you can get a bit of lee-way with that.

It's clear that they want to protect minors, but if a game has a majority audience of zoomers and kids, then it's a minor oriented game. They could do even more by requiring notification on packaging or purchase that states the game contains microtransactions and pay-to-win content, to make it even easier for parents to stop lil zoomers from buying.

Now that i think about it wouldn't this kill maplestory cubes?

I can't tell if this is good or not.

>pay to win lootboxes
so overwatch is fine?

>publishers and developers now have a valid reason to add sex and nipples

NICE

Finally nexon can go die in hell

>constructive knowledge.
the fuck does that mean.
>knowledge that a person is deemed to have of facts that he would have discovered had he made the usual and proper inquiries.
what does usual and proper inquiries mean, why does everything have to be so vague, holy shit

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I was wondering about this too. Unless there's some sort of accepted lawyer understanding of this kind of writing, it seems very ambiguous. Like something a college professor would strike you for.

my sister is a lawyer so ill ask her. but im not sure shes familiar enough with gaming to know

They specifically fuck overwatch over with this

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I just mean generally. To me you can read that sentence two ways by whether you think the p2w adjective applies to just micro transactions or both.

the bill bans pay to win micro transactions (like those in EA's Battlefield 2 and Fallout 76) AND lootboxes (like those in Overwatch)
there is a definition of what a lootbox and a p2w microtransaction is in the bill

So really all I can see is that a lot more games are going to ask if you are 18 years or older when purchasing lootboxs now

That's why courts employ statutory interpretation. They can look to the legislature's intent behind the Act when rather broad definitions are given.

GOOD

KILL ALL THE GACHAFAGS

My fucking god I wish smartphones were never invented even though i love how convenient they are for everyday life tasks. It simply has to go.

So what are the chances this even gets passed? Last I checked most congressmen are in the pockets of corporations

NOOOOOOOOOO, MY FREEEE MARKET!!!!

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0.0% repeating 0 chance of it passing the Senate, let alone the House, let alone President Trump's desk.

How do they define "pay to win" is the question. Frankly this should be any lootboxes because kids can be more interested in shiny things.

[pay-to-win microtransactions] or [lootboxes] - not pay-to-win [microtransactions or lootboxes]

Also, for anyone interested, refer to S2 DEFINITIONS, and then to S5 "MINOR-ORIENTED GAME" for clarification on the specifics of what they can and can't get away with

t. uni lawfag

are you sure its not saying pay to win microtransactions AND lootboxes? (meaning pay to win lootboxes)

>there is a definition of what a lootbox and a p2w microtransaction is in the bill
oh ok thanks

cool thanks

Please let this pass

"adds or enhances the entertainment value"

this is a very broad langauge that covers any possible lootbox

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refer to "pay-to-win" under the definitions of the act (at the beginning)

ok thanks. my english is trash

>minor oriented
This is it bros
We are finally going to get our rated R games with high violence, titties and ass because of publisher greed
A new age for waifufags because i'm sure as hell some big developer will see the success of Azur Lane, FGO and other gacha and try to get a profit using the same tactics
SJWs and resetera BTFO by corporate overlords

Yes, that is the definition of a loot box, but it matters whether or not the restriction is on all loot boxes or p2w loot boxes. I think it's the former but I'm annoyed with this pointless ambiguity. But I also kinda assume that these lawyer types have some idea what they're doing and that they are following some professional standard.

Yes.

BUT MUH NAP

how long until it becomes law?

Which company will be the first to make a hugely successful 18+ gacha game?

>change the esrb rating to M being 18, instead of 17
>or have a disclaimer ingame saying you are of age
wow nice bill

it hasn't passed yet

Doesn't matter if the game is minor oriented based on content, not rating, it's arguable at any rate.

Quite a long time considering a lot of journalists have been paid off to be against the bill.

Schlop schlop oh please big daddy government, please regulate my hobby because I have no self control schlop schlop

There really isn't a grammatical necessity that either reading is more correct, so don't feel stupid for being confused. It is however more likely that it's meant like the user says, because it probably would have been written explicitly if it were the other way around.

Well RIP maplestory, shit was the only thing keeping it alive in the west, people used to spend 90k USD per character thanks to cubes.

what about ACTUAL lootboxes, like lootcrate or the other bazillion knock-offs, what about pic related, what about Trading cars? baseball cards, etc? prize tokens that only appear in some colas/cereal boxes, that's a a randomized element

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Yes most people have no self-control of money and impulses It's why we regulate gambling and alcohol

Considering the absolute cucked state of the Senate right now highly unlikely

I'm fine by this. If lootbox games are an automatic AO rating then that hurts them just as much as a ban.

and what is, "minor oriented content"?

who reviews it first?

You're all cheering now but when you give politicians power over something there's only a matter of time before they exercise it further. Before long they'll take away something you like "for da children ;_;" and you won't be smiling then.

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It means you should ask the customer their age before allowing them to buy

refer to minor oriented game under s5 of the act

Rated by ESRB below AO I would imagine.

Unrelated:
Does Yea Forums agree with this definition of Loot Box?

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>Nooo, please don't let me ruin the entire industry with my lootbox kuso

Fuck off back to your digital slum, EA.

So essentially, they laid the groundwork for lawyers to argue that any game could potentially be targeted at minors. And they wouldn't be wrong. Kids have been playing Mortal Kombat and CoD since they were released. I think at best you'll be asked to confirm you're 18+ when playing these games or before making a purchase, it won't actually stop the practice because it's not a ban overall.

Food analogy is different though, because it can feasibly be argued that the toy or token that is received in kinder eggs or cereal boxes is a bonus that you get with the food, and not something that you are actually paying for on its own, regardless of people that might.

Trading card companies sometimes even "officially" avoid association with rarity and all that purely to stop this sort of argument. It's certainly an interesting argument though.

>dude just trust the government to regulate video games

Why stop there? Ban all recreational drugs including tobacco and caffeine, restrict any source of empty calories, mandate the population log at least three gym dates a week bar physical disabilities.

>dude just trust the publishers to regulate video games

>don’t do good things or else you’ll get bad things later

Yes

>(D) the use of animated characters or activities >that appeal to individuals under the age
>of 18;
Yeah, what kind of grown man would enjoy cartoons?

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>just keep supporting the trash that has ruined videogames for the last decade bro corporations are cool

The government has hard-on for regulating video game violence after any shooting happens. FPS games are next buddy.

Yes. It's purposely vague enough that it basically fucks over any and all companies that have lootboxes in their game. They have to write it like this in order to cast the widest net possible and prevent these companies from basically metagaming their lootboxes to still being legal.

t. Fire Code Official

ANONS PLS EXPLAIN IM DUMB
What happens now? What house gets the bill first and what does it need to get approved?
I don't know about burgerland law.

this but unironically

not the same user, but a video game with virtual naked ladies cannot be argued as minor oriented content, so that is at least something publishers can use to classify their games as NOT minor oriented content

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I can't believe that video game publishers became so shitty they actually made me celebrate government regulation.

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Some of them are vague as typical with such terms
>visual content of the product
>the music or audio of the product
>the age of the charatcer or models of the product
>the audicence which the prosuct cater too(paraphrase this)

The one thing that might come back to bite is that the further the net you cast spreads, the more chance there is of a loophole or something like that because you can't cover everything exhaustively.

That said, this on its own is an exceptional foundation.

It goes to the senate committee, if they ok it then it goes to the senate floor. If it passes in the senate it goes to the house committee, then house floor, if they pass it goes to the president who signs or vetos it.

Oh you are right, I didn't like the wording because it seemed to easy to lawyer out of because I was only thinking about preteens.

>on its own is an exceptional foundation.

And this is how much the lootbox bill is worth in US real currency. 0% chance of passing and becoming law.

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what distributors
most game sales these days are digital
and steam allows adult games

>It goes to the senate committee, if they ok it then it goes to the senate floor. If it passes in the senate it goes to the house committee, then house floor, if they pass it goes to the president who signs or vetos it.
well Trump is pretty anti gaming so hopefully this passes as long has people last minute dont give his business billions

The language could be understood to include ANY transaction, even without money, that results in A or B. If you spent gold in MtG:A or Hearthstone for a card pack, that would still count as a loot box, because you're using a currency the game recognizes for a service that meets all other qualifications. It essentially means that any form of loot box can't be sold for anything, not even fake money.

Do you know the meaning of the word OR

Nintendo games.

my english is bad, sorry. :(

I kind of wish they would force wizards of the cost to do away with mythic rarity.

Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft refuse to sell AO games on their digital stores and most of the publishers that rely on lootboxes rely solely on console sales

Bullshit, ingame currency is allowed as long as it isn’t a proxy for real money, i.e. you can purchase it with real money.

Everything, that's the point, it's a bill designed to hit all lootboxs designed as a child protection bill so that it actually goes through.

Videogames and anime are made for children.

if the law passes lets all give EA a big pat on the back

for being so greedy that lawmakers had to make such a law and essentially screwing over other companies

so are books and movies

What about modern magical girl anime that aren't precure, those are quite blatantly written to appeal to people in their 20s and 30s

>only 4% of bills ever pass
hope you roll well, faggots

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You're forgetting that this bill is being proposed as a "save the kids" measure.

so we ARE the manchildren

brahss.....noooo

The bill goes to a committee (the top dog Republican and Democrats) and they iron out the details that would please both parties. Once they think they have something, they put it on the Senate floor to debate then vote.

If it passes the Senate, it goes to the House who votes on it. If the House passes it, it goes to the President who can sign or throw it out (veto). If the President vetoes a bill, both chambers of Congress have to vote an overwhelming majority of 3/4th to overule the President. Democrats do not control Congress, the White House, or the Supreme Court. Too confusing?

Congress: Both houses have to say YES to the bill.
President: Has to sign or refuse/veto.
Congress: Has to have a super majority to overrule the President's veto.
US Politics right now: LMAO at Republicans working with Democrats. President Trump owns casino. Now think about the odds of the lootbox bill passing.

It is a literally a never ever going to pass. Government regulation hardon fags are seething ITT.

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17 is still a minor
Hell 20 is considered a minor because you can’t legally drink

Allowing AO on shelves also allows porn games though as they are AO as well

>designed
*disguised

The only major storefronts that sell AO rated games at the moment are Steam and Amazon. Every other major game store, physical and digital, explicitly forbids them.

Just woke up and haven’t read the actual text, but unless the word “minor” is defined later in the bill, the things unworkable. “Minor oriented” is a pretty subjective measure and will absolutely be where the litigation happens. Also, if the bill is making loot boxes criminal, the text provided above will absolutely face constitutional challenged for being over broad or vague.

t. lawfag

youtube.com/watch?v=tyeJ55o3El0

>inb4 they dont touch AAA western shit but fuck over every jap game gacha trash because they dont get any money from them

Oh no no no

but the bill is met with bipartisan support. it was proposed by a Republican and 2 openly Democrats supported it.

Also Trump condemns videogames on the regular.

You fags act like this is actually happening.
Do you honestly expect this to go through when fortnitechinks and EA will step their foot (and moneybags) in the way?

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>actually goes thru
You do know that wont be the case, right?
They can pass it like with other bills but usually these bills get amended and can become a neutered version of itself in order please with groups (hint hint lobbies) and parties

It is, fellow lawfag, under the definitions at section 2 (5)

Fucking awesome

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The phrase “minor oriented”, didn’t mean to type “the word ‘minor’” as minor is clearly defined.

It basically means that if you know the majority of your playerbase is children you can't bullshit around and feign ignorance

>President Trump owns casino.
President trump also hates videogames

Fortnite has lootboxes and p2w microtransactions?

Pretty much anything short of manhunt

The only people who support government intervention are literal sheep who don't know anything. I'm glad that you will suffer for your stupidity.

holy shit dude, 2 Democrats and 1 Republican support the lootbox bill in the Senate. Only 48 more votes my dude!! Then work on the House. :^)

>Trump condemns videogames on the regular.

lol. Gambling bill, Trump against gambling, Trump owns gambling institutions, lol my Resetera pro government friend.

>implying politicians will ever pass up on a "muh chillun" bill
It's free good press and already has bipartisan support. And why would Trump veto it? It has nothing to do with casinos and he's already voiced support on regulation of the video game industry.

I’ll have to check it out after I’ve had some time to wake up. What are your first impressions of the bill’s constitutionality? I’m having a hard time imagining a way in which the phrase could be defined that would protect the bill from constitutional challenge for over breadth or vagueness.

he doesnt get the lootbox money so he wont give a shit.

Unfortunately fortnite only has cosmetics and no lootboxs.

Fortnite doesnt have p2w you retard gachacuck.

I trust them to regulate water, nuclear power and pay my military wages
If anything the government can whoop in fine motherfuckers and straight up give jail time to CEOs and other important figure heads to a company

If anything banning lootboxes would cause people with gambling addictions to find another outlet for it, and guess where the best place to gamble is?

“Constructive knowledge” is a legal term of art. IIRC, it falls under “known or should have known”

It's excellent, not for the content itself, but to showcase their hypocrisy when they forego their precious progressivism in favor of limitless monetization.

point 1
the white house literally posted a video on youtube about how they think video games
are causing kids to be more violent

point 2
the bill was proposed by a republican

he will sign it if it gets to him that much is obvious

just so he can have a stick to poke the other side with saying

"hey look we republicans passed a bill"
so re-elect me

>titties will make up for all the money they will lose

Lmao

How are the "for the children" gun control and global warming bills going for you? They literally use children as props, some climate apocalypse aren't having kids because of muh children. Anything happen yet for the gun control and climate change bills yet?

Can't wait for them to add "ban violence in video games" to the bill.

You're an idiot. Government intervention is an absolute necessity when the free market fails and it has failed big time here.

Nigger what the fuck is minor-oriented?? most whales are manchildren who play yu-gi-oh and watch shounen animes, these people are out of touch

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>B-but what about m-muh shareholders?

A lot of immigration amnesty bills have been authored by Republicans, none have passed. Just shut the fuck up you retarded mongoloid. There aren't any votes going into this and Trump isn't going to touch anything related gambling one way or the other.

>White House bitching about violence in games
>Violence has anything to do with gambling

Work on your debate skills too.

>gachacucks are shitting themselves all over the internet over this bill

Hope you faggots play the jp version, bwahahaha.

That’d tank the entire bill as it would be content-based discrimination which puts it in 1A territority.

The government has the able to jail and, fine
All the bad press is the world doesn’t hold a candle to “Cops knocking on your office door to arrest you for breaking us law”

>all lootbox games need to be 18+
Do publishers even care about age ratings on games anymore?

I'm not a US lawfriend (Aus) so bear that in mind, that said I think that the actual grounds are pretty solid. The definitions don't really leave any room for non-compliance or unfairness. In terms of lootboxes/pay to win sort of thing it's fairly clear cut.

Like you say though, overall they're going to go straight for the "minor oriented game" part, which although being pretty straightforward is the weakest part.

Overall I'm of the opinion that it's quite a good piece of legislation.

Literally defined within the text of the bill.

Not happening
People love violence more than life itself

Precure is great, shut it!

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Think of the children is just an excuse to get the law to pass.

Yea, that's why doom never sold well.
Shut the fuck up faggot, go pour another hundred on whatever gacha shit you're addicted to and fuck off my board.

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M rated games are 17+ AO games are 18+ Retailers flat out refuse to stock AO games. This would put games with gatcha shit in the same category with hatred, manhunt and porn games.

They never did. The ESRB is a literal meme. Kids just get their parents to buy them GTA and cawadoody.

But at least it will be fun to watch the devs take it up the ass. Nintendo was smart to stay out of it (for the most part)

Depends, some companies need a Teen rating to get money, CA, a company filling a niche, or companies like EA to get the most money of its consumers and to print money

Yeah
If you can’t get on store shelves or out in public eye you miss out on a ton of advertising
>But internet
Everyone is on the internet now the competition is insane

How bout also promoting time-gating to reduce the addiction of instant gratification?

I didn't say it was bad, just that it was the only magical girl show made for children first and foremost.

Yeah this will fail 1st amendment tests. Or just force gacha games to have even more lewd bikinis to argue it’s for adults.

Gacha games on mobile don’t get esrb ratings

After having more time to think about it, I do think he general idea could work. It’ll certainly be litigated, but (and I still haven’t read the text) if “minor oriented” simply means “games able to be purchased by someone under the age of 18” then I think it’s fine as it. Granted, compliance for F2P games will simply involve those “what year were your born” questions you see for M games on Steam. If you’re 18, you can proceed, if you put under 18, it’ll kick you back. For games with a set price compliance might require some restructuring of ESRB ratings such that M games require you to be 18, not 17 (which I think is the current status quo) and only M games will be able to contain loot boxes.

All in all, not a bad way to go about it if my interpretation is correct.

Still parents will be much more reluctant to buy an AO game the second the google it and see the word “Pornographic”
Parents don’t buy their kids a Hustler magazine

>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
???
I really hope you aren't saying lootboxes are speech, Chinaman.

THIS, most kids dont spend money on mobile games, it's the lonely adults..

If this does go through approximately how long would it take to do so?

They do, at least on Android.

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why would trump sign an immigration amnesty bill ??
your rebuttal makes no sense

and as for violence in video games
the video was posted in response to school shootings

and since we already know video games have negligible effect on that yet they still did it ?

they needed a scapegoat hence why they did it

this bill is a free ticket for his re-election
trump also doesn't get money from loot boxes since his business doesn't profit from it

ask yourself honestly if you were trump would you not sign the bill ?

Stop with this bullshit.

Games literally utilize time-gating to get you more addicted since it makes you think "shit, I only have 10 more hours left for this deal/mode? I better buy it today!" then you get the sunk cost fallacy.

>most kids dont spend money on mobile games
Kids literally get bullied in school for not spending enough money for skins in Fortnight.

No you retard. Video games are though and this is restricting games based on age. SCOTUS struck that down in California when it came to violent video games

Would buy currency and get free lootboxes with it (like what happens in China) still be allowed?

so gacha games are safe?

The supreme court already ruled that games cannot be banned for depictions of violence and gore based on the first amendment because some faggot Californian politicians already tried that.

>A lot of immigration amnesty bills have been authored by Republicans, none have passed.
Trump didn't run his entire presidential campaign on how much he loves lootboxs, he ran it on how much he hates immigrants, of course he will be willing to go against his party if it is in support of the entire reason he ran for president.

>If you spent gold in MtG:A or Hearthstone for a card pack, that would still count as a loot box
Good.
It was player card packs in FIFA that started this mess.

time to rev up those lobbying firms

Read the fucking bill moron

Nope.

The most opportune time for that was back in the days of Columbine and Jack Thompson. If they didn’t do it there, they ain’t gonna do it here

no

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I think they're overlooked, not safe.

This bill likely wouldn't target gacha players as it has language indicating that minor oriented games aren't those with a provable large adult player base.

If, god forbid, Street Fighter added in real micro transactions, I don't think you'd see that being affected by this bill.

The main targets of this bill is really stuff like EA games, Fortnite, and Candy Crush. These people probably don't even know what FGO is.

No they won't. They'll just make a fuss about it and cry indignation even if the box came with a giant WARNING: FULL FRONTAL TITS label.

It's the state's responsibility to raise their kids.

>Any game publisher that boycotts Israel should be sentenced to 50 years in jail
Ruh-roh

You can always trade something physical though. Plus, many of those go out of their way to associate with gambling, claiming that all draws are equally likely.
When your rewards are equally likely, and accepted to be of equal value, there's chance involved in what you get, but not in how much you get out of it

>Idiots thinking that dems wouldn't take this chance to start litigating and censoring the type of games they want made
>Thinking this won't pass when anyone can already see greedy states with fully engorged money boners wanting to dick down big corporations like EA and Blizzard with fees

Much like the legalization of marijuana, it'll take time but eventually this bill or one like it will pass. It's a multibillion dollar industry at this point with very little in the way of regulation. That will change. It's at the point where it's impossible to ignore. In the mean time, I'll just celebrate the inevitable collapse of the industry by playing the games I already own and have physical copies of.

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>Teen

Ripperoni

Go look at the ruling you're referring to and comeback. Try to apply the reasoning for the ruling to lootboxes after you come back.

Does the word transaction in lawfaf terms refer to specifically monetary or does that have to mentioned alongside transaction? Either way, it looks like this is gonna fuck over gacha games in the US as well.

Gatcha devs will still pull the plug on NA servers and since they don't release in the EU anymore already for the same reason they will tell you :" Learn nip you stupidfuck who needs mama goverment to tell you to be wise with money, fucking white pigs subhumabs"

It's just the way you have to write laws in republics. Always assume there's going to be shit heads.

FEH shut down their servers in Belgium after they banned lootboxes

Other way around.

I feel like card games should be exempted since it is the business model they have always ran in but I will glady give them up in exchange for getting rid of the rest of the cancer.

This is restricting game sales based on age retard

Age restriction =/= a ban. The US isn't a retarded country like Belgium.

Restricting artistic deceptions based on age = Not okay.
Unless you're trying to say lootboxes are art.

The card industry is so valuable that they could buy the entire legislative body for a Black Lotus and still have enough money left over for a Sensei's Divining Top

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Wait how did we go from Lootbox ban to
>Developers will have to add tits and nudity to games now

Whats the mental gymnastics behind this.

1A is subject to reasonable time, place, and manner restrictions. No rights are absolute.

The bill aims to restrict access of children to gambling like features, meaning a game that can be argued has minors as a target audience would not be allowed to have lootboxes. Meaning, you would need to get a higher age rating for your game to get the lootboxes in. Therefore, tits.

>this bill will never pass! Surely the boomers on both sides of the aisle have deep knowledge on video games and will be as split on the issue as we are!

Or they’ll just see “keep kids from gambling” and push it right along.

Lootbox ban protects minors via age restriction only, circulating it requires your game to be above the age limit. 18 years old, no gacha game gets released on consoles or PCs, so it would be targeting the 18 year old limit on Android GooglePlay and Apple's iCuck store.

No ironclad and expansive definition of loot boxes anywhere in that guide. That gives a foolproof loophole. More fake regulations, yay.

They don't have to but even shit like the new Super Mario Kart has to be rated AO
Imagine, FUCKING SUPER MARIO ADULT ONLY RATED

>if bill passes will fuck over all AAA devs and force them to make an effort
>but gacha incels are crying over it cuz they will lose their anime girls pngs

Gachacucks truly are cancer.

ESRB would just bump up M from 17 to 18.

Based.

Now kill Gacha.

Disgaea did that. The game was actually made for 3 year olds in Japan, but it was so suggestive to western audiences that they bumped it up and added lots of cursing.

based
fuck EA, fuck AAA """devs""", and fuck every gachashit developer

Gotta cope somehow.

>Force them to make effort
Lol
They will just shutdown, no more AAA titles
Only Indies from the west and japanese games

Why would any consumer be against this?
It seems to benefit us 100%.

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but it defines what lootboxes are

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yes just like how there were no AAA titles during the PS2 era

Did you even fucking read it?

Based.
Fuck the game industry and the greedy hooknosed kikes that defend this bullshit.

Voting with your wallet is a fucking meme and will never work in any serious capacity.

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I imagine banks hate it when being called up by a parent telling them that the charges on their card was made by a minor and need to be removed, that they are the real ones pushing this bill.

You can buy a senator for like 5k, they're cheap as shit.

people are afraid the government will continue to pass bills like this, but we can always just stop those when they happen

>no more AAA titles
Good.
Bring back A and AA studios.
Split EA up.

Interesting, to what is 8(B) referring? I’m having a hard time visualizing an example.

Voting with your wallet doesn't work because a single rich idiot can poison the water and "outvote" every other consumer.
Whales need to be banned, not lootboxes.

No, he means that developers will have to plausibly gate their games from minors. As in America showing a video of Mexican cartels skinning people alive gets at most a teen rating, to get an Adults-Only they'll have to show some cleavage

Or just film him getting a blumpkin in a gas station's restroom and blackmail him.

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>western shit dies and takes gacha garbage with it

Even better.

Buy digital currency and receive one lootbox

It’s more like voting with your wallet should always be the first measure of attack in dealing with a commercial trend that seems detrimental. When, and only when, that fails should the government step in to regulate where the market has failed to do so.

It was a different industry with different people, if this pass we are going for a dark age fir the western scene

see it means using in-game currency to buy lootboxes or roll gacha is also a no-no

Or ESRB/PEGI could just consider games with gambling as 18+, seems simpler no?

I guess that makes sense, though I’m still having trouble imagining a scenario in which 8(A) wouldn’t already apply. 8(B) doesn’t seem to capture any conduct outside the reach of the rest of the bill.

it will never pass and if it does companies will just find another way to fuck shit up

never underestimate greedy Jews

>2019 has republican and democrat senators mutually supporting a bill to ban lootboxes and pay-to-win microtransactions
>it so far has no significant opposition on the political level and has some chance of passing
>europe has had Belgium set precedent for banning them and several other nations are either investigating the matter or have done so and at best decided to leave the matter resting for the time being meaning they may eventually join in on the bannings

what a fucking time to be alive

i'm sure whatever the AAA industry comes up with next will be just as bad or even worse but god it'll be fun to see EA, Activision, and 2K scramble while it lasts.

>Every western game has lootboxes

Okay retard.

OH NONONONONOONONONONO

Now they're in with the likes of hatred and porn games. The media would eat them alive.

Oh man I’m retarded, that makes much more sense.

I don't want Mama Goverment to tell me how to spend my money
And the good gatchashit are perfectly playable F2P if you aren't a retard

Paid shills and anally devestated devs, mostly

For fun, keep an eye out for any leftie journos and see how hard they root for corporate interests and anti-consumer practices when this bill comes up

Gacha games often make you buy ingame currency or "roll tickets" to get another spit at the lootbox wheel.

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The ESRB has changed and erased ratings, sure. We had E10 and that rating disappeared. The original Persona 1 on PS1 got a Kids to Adults rating (KA) and that rating has been retired.

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Fuck you that's too reasonable, kill online games

Every big publisher has at least three or four games that make profit off of loot boxes

Selling a key to open lootboxes

Those are just guidelines, rating agencies have no authority. Their only relevance, besides guidelines for parents, is that retailers didn't use to accept AO rated games

Gachatards aren't normal people.

Voting with your wallet works in almost every other industry, the only difference between bideo lames and literally anything else is that gamers are fucking retarded
>REEEE EA is selling us lootboxes for the 100th time
>A week later. EA Presents: STAR WARS, A SHIT BATTLEFIELD CLONE
>*Buys*
>WOW WHY IS THERE MICROTRANSACTIONS REEEEEE

>europe has had Belgium
>2019 has republican and democrat senators mutually supporting a bill

>No chance of passing the Senate, House, or President
>Passing any law during election season
>Belgium thinks its relevant

wow, a whole load of shit out of your ass just like the law becoming real in the usa.

that's probably the hope.

they politicians want their cut of the vidya game monies. either they lobby or they get the law on their throat.

I never realized how bad lootboxes were until I spoke with some of my cousins last year and found out their kids had spent thousands on microstransaction crap and when they contacted EA to refuse payment EA threatened to cut off their kids from all of their online services forever.

Like how the fuck did they ever think this would stay legal? It's racketeering.

But if a game is cleary marked as "YOU GAMBLE HERE SO BE AN ADULT" that should be enough tbhpham

>Voting with your wallet works in almost every other industry
No it doesn't.

A game that has a younger large younger playerbase. Basically Overwatch and Fortnight.
Not even TF2 from back in the day could get by with its blood and gibs since there were so many kids playing it.
If this would have only come sooner epic wouldn't have had so much fucking money, I mean they still own unreal, but damn.

>FIFA becomes M-rated
>hooligan battles as a seperate mode

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voting with your wallet works in every industry. you just walk away, and no it's not your problem anymore.

the people who claim it doesn't work, are people who demand everything goes the way they want it to.

Devs will increase the price of games and will start selling overpriced DLC.

It actually makes me happy as I read this.

>you just walk away, and no it's not your problem anymore.
Your argument is "stop playing videogames"

Voting is useless and thus using your wallet is useless. You are an irrelevant part next to the majority.

Rating companies have no effect on the law. If a game can be considered "minor friendly" in any regard, it has the chance of putting the publisher at risk.

'Ate FIFA
'Ate Lootboxes
'Ate EA
'Ate Ubisoft
'Ate Gacha
Love Inazuma Eleven
Love Football Manager
Love pints
Love me wife

Simple as.

And actually ban children from playing them? And if they do their guardians face legal prosecution? YES PLEASE.

might be "stop playing newer games", but I find it unlikely everyone will follow the same practices.

Not him but that's obviously not his argument. If you would stop being a retard and supporting devs who fuck you over, devs who produce good games without any bullshit attached would get more money and edge out the competition, but unfortunately people who play video games are universally retarded so when they see some shiny game riding a tv show/movie hype train by EA/Ubisoft/Activision/Whatever other cancer devs they empty their wallet and act surprised that they bought a shit sandwich

Nintendo is royally screwed over by this. They already had to pull a FE and AC game from Belgium.

Or you know, lock up the credit card and don't let your children spend your money.

>saving the games industry from the nips, chinks and kikes
Absolutely based. God bless the USA.

I hope this bill pass.

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They probably retired it because it has horrible search results. Like in ye olde days when searching "Father to daughter" on google would yield child porn results. Those were wild times.

can't be done sadly, that would literally mean breaking the modern economic system, like it or not gacha is making money on a shady and unethical way but nonetheless legal.

So isn't really a ban, just push it to AO.

Sounds good to me since console manufacturers refuse to hold AO games.

Heroes is not a game and animal crossing is not a game.

>oh no poor Nintendo with their several billion dollar warchest now they have to make video games

the squeaky gear gets the grease

if you are above the legal age this does nothing but benefit you if you play video games

the only people who would oppose this bill

are

children and/or shills

and gambling addicts

Politicians are almost as corrupt as games corporation executives

>AAA fucked
>mobile fucked
>gacha either dead or forced to offer English on up servers
>hearthstone and MTGA forced to offer trading/singles (or mtgo redemption in the case of arena) to get in under existing carveouts for TCG
not really seeing the issue honestly

and it's probably going to pass, trump has indicated support for similar legislation in the past and it's not apparent who says no, it's similar to all the bipartisan think-about-the-children bullshit that happened under Clinton. Theres no clear opposed constituency in the house or senate
>t. DC knower

Millennials and gen y being poor as fuck is the reason why base game prices haven't risen past $60 for the last few years. Until student loan forgiveness happens, that won't change

Cutting out even more content to make DLC is very much possible, but it's still better than gambling for something specific

dont forget waifufags who spent hundreds and dont want to acknowledge how much theyve wasted

>using such subjective and non-definitive terms like pay-to-win and minkr-oriented
This bodes well

They should have gone with the TPCi model.

Almost every mobile Pokemon game goes unscratched from this bill since technically is not lootboxes.

I'll never understand the allure of gambling yet I play video games all day.

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>student loans
Hah

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the bill defines them, try reading it

>either have to live with no lootboxes
>or have to give up the crusade against titties and accept the AO rating
i like these crossroads the west has put themselves in

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Nobody is asking them to, retard. They're asking you to stop being an idiot and to stop throwing money at every shitty EA title filled with microtransactions

That too

>implying I buy EA games
Don't insult me like that, you faggot

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They brought it upon themselves, sadly enough. Government regulation is the worst kind of solution to problems but if businesses like EA weren't so goddamn retarded this would never have happened.

Huh, interesting how the dates correlate exactly with a certain other thing flooding into Europe and NA.

It has to be this way. Sony is fighting hard to make esrb irrelevant and making decusions on what the developers can and cant make weve been sold out by everyone involved

Wanna know what the funniest part of this is? that the shit that put this under governments radar EA has been pulling it for years now Just look Plants vs Zombies Garden Warfare 2 but they HAD to get ultra-greedy and add it on every single game.

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>tfw you play yourself into a situation where you lose or you lose

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based EYE bro

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Good.
If these jews won't stop trying to get kids addicted to gambling of their own accord, then government restrictions are required.

Americans are more afraid of tits than violence

Yeah
>what is Nintendo

but what about muh fire emblem heroes? will they just have 20$ DLC each book and then I can just inherit skills willy nilly with 5$ seasonal unit packs etc. so I can finally enjoy the game the way its meant to be played?

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>Until student loan forgiveness happens, that won't change
It wont happen since its easy to pay them as long you didnt went full retard and went for something like liberal arts.

A game that has lootboxes and a significant amount of minor players, and the publishers "push it to AO," would still be violating this proposed law. The proposed law doesn't mention game ratings at all.

Do you realize just how little they get from Belgium compare other markets? Why do you Belgians think anyone gives a fuck about your backwater irrelevant country?

Devs who produce good games without any bullshit attached immediately get bought up by EA or Tencent and injected with bullshit.
It's my wallet vs the shareholders of several multi-national corporations.

nice socialism you got going on there burgers

today it's
>unlawful minor oriented game

tomorrow it's
>you can only make money in the way the party has described

next week it's
>all your means of production belong to us, you join the gulag now capitalist scum

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if im finally allowed to say the n word and masterbate in global chat because the game is for 'adults', then thats a fair price to pay for gambling addiction fueling life ruining completely unfair and we should have lynched the first game dev who made them in the streets loot boxes.

Shut up! Nintendeo are the good guys, they don't do lootboxes, microtransactions, and hard mode as paid DLC like sony!

I don't think you know what socialism means

How hard is this to understand? Just don't buy from them after EA buys them up, you'll be cutting EA's revenue off and showing that independent developers will get your support instead of big companies like EA. EA only has the funds to buy them up because retards keep buying the shit they shovel out anyway.

I'm starting to think this ban is a good idea because it's obvious gamers are too retarded to make a smart purchase without some parent/government holding their hand the entire time.

Illegal immigrants, anita.

RIP Korean MMOs for good.

So the answer is implementing socialism
Commies played the long game and won, Marx was right

And that's unironically a good thing fuck Korea with hot coals

I live in a socialist country I do know what it means

>Just don't buy from them after EA buys them up, you'll be cutting EA's revenue off and showing that independent developers will
get bought by EA, as has happened time and time again.
EA suits don't understand wallet voting, when their multimillion dollar projects fail for being bad they just shrug and say "guess the market doesn't want this anymore", fire the entire studio and set sights on the next one.
Their exclusive sports licenses print infinite money and they will never learn from their mistakes.

First they banned lootboxes, next they commit gamer genocide. If only we let scummy publishers drain their customers for their v bucks instead of letting politicians have their minor victory.

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>dude trust me
>I know

So socialism is only appealing to a population too retarded to make their own decisions?
Oh wait, that's exactly how every socialist state started

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Reminder that for all the restrictions they put out, they'll always let you go and die for OUR GREATEST ALLY ISRAEL.

from /dlg/
I want to ask something
is DL Box count as lootbox?

And it's USA turn now

>oey vey goyim, ive spent my entire life undermining western civilization but this arguement might work on you... regulating gambling dens will lead to communism! you should allow my tribe to prey on children and the mentally ill otherwise you hate the west!

shut up, kike. loot boxes have literally ruined entire genres of vidya at this point. They are a cancerous poison that needs to be purged from the industry.

Wait a minute here...user, you got that backwards.

It looks like small indie games would still be allowed to sell lootboxes & p2w in kid's games.

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Does girl's frontline count as lootboxes because i play the game casually and never whaled?

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if a small indie company publishes their own game that makes them a publisher

You guys are forgetting that AO games are refused to be carried by any store in the US, along with the fact that console companies refuse to let AO games get published on their systems.
Basically meaning if your game gets an AO rating for loot boxes, your game cannot be put on consoles at all.
This will basically make it impossible to put loot boxes in games in the US.

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That's the dream.

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The ones bitching over it are just gachacucks. Even CoD niggers want lootboxes gone.

Socialism is the realisation by intellectuals that individuality is a meme.

No, you're guaranteed to get the cards, all the info is there, not a true lootbox

It will kill Gamestop
Steam allows porn now, Origin and Uplay will allow their AO too
Sony will cuck your ass with a "Adult pass" like system where you will have to pay fir access AO games on the store

>loot boxes have literally ruined entire genres
they haven't

>needs to be purged from the industry
I don't like it so nobody should be able to buy!

Why is nintendo so EA-tier yet Yea Forums hails them as the saviors?

Xenobros, what are we going to do?

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so basically it's not lootbox if they show the rates of what you are getting.
huh, fgo will be saved

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EA has money because of investors. Actual game sales matter little when they can just sign contracts with the NFL or whoever and get tons of cash for shitting out another year of whatever big title sports game they've got lined up. Even if literally every single individual stopped buying their games entirely starting tomorrow, corporations like Walmart and Gamestop would still buy crateloads of the damn things.

I haven't seen anyone under 19 to play nintendo titles

You say that like it's a bad thing
What's wrong with developers making their games less jewy

Yes, they just have to make sure they only allow 1000 users or less to play the game annually, then they wouldn't be affected.

>average gamer is 30+
>living fossil 70+ year old politicians still think video games are for children
fucking gigaboomers

>they haven't
They have actually.
You might think loot boxes have no effect on the games they appear in, but you'd only think that if you're tremendously naive or simply arguing from a point of dishonestly.
Obviously if the developer puts something in a box, they want you to buy it, so the rest of the game is made less fun or less convenient in an attempt to promote the box. If a box has exp in it, the world will have less exp in it to encourage you to buy the box.

Soulless

Based Cygames and their Monkeygate, i guess

About god damn time they started regulating this shit. It took them 5+ years to realize that lootboxes are the same shit as gambling.

>it's not lootbox if they show the rates of what you are getting.
>fgo will be saved
FGO has the shittiest rates out of any gacha
They'll have to change their practices or block NA completely from playing

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They will find a way to kike you out

Law is slow but effective

>crusty baby boomer senator inadvertently saves vidya

the gachashitter tears will be delicious

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youtu.be/VwVUAzBF7do

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FGO's rates are the average. The only difference is that DW doesn't lie about them

How would that work? Only 1k people a year can buy Game™ on Steam?

No, nigger, if there's 20 cards/characters/whatever but you get them guaranteed after 20 pulls it's not a gacha, rates = lootboxes

It will be bumped up to an age 18 rating or they'll have an age identification. These gacha games aren't at Walmart or Target buddy, they're digital only on Apple and GooglePlay. It's not a hassle to change it. I'm not saying closure isn't in the cards, but they have options before closing shop.

Global does like shit so they'll just kill it if this passes, lmao

>They have actually.
then what genre has been completely ruined by lootboxes? I can't think of a single one

Nintendo gets extra good guy points on everything because nostalgia. The Nintendo bonus is really Stockholm syndrome.

Are there any AO games on GooglePlay?

Imagine CS or Hat Fortress without loot boxes.

If you want hard evidence of this, look at Shadow of War before and after the jew orc and his shop were patched out.

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Tron Bonne game

>then what genre has been completely ruined by lootboxes?

>completely ruined

quit moving the goalposts, twitchfag

>ban shit video games
based

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any game that uses Lootboxes/MTX as its main source of income is not a game worth saving
change my mind

TF2's crates are horrible.
Was TF2 the one that started it all with their regular crates?

At first it was just junk items and

I support your post.

those aren't genres and neither games you need to buy any stuff to enjoy em

the stuff that is in TF2 has actually enhanced the game
can't say the same about CS though

I know it's not lootbox or gacha, but I actually blame Diablo 2 for starting the whole PERFECT RARE ITEM craze.

It opened pandora's box.

>Government can bar children from taking drugs, driving cars or going to casinos
>but online gambling should be a-ok

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>Yea Forums became THINK OF THE CHILDREN when convenient

Read the thread.

Most people here support the gacha-ban, aside from a few addicted faggots.

Then ban children from participating in online gambling, don't ban online gambling.

Americans consume corporate shit

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>it is gambling because I and the gubernment says so!

thats what the bill does though

What are you even doing in a thread about an American law you obsessed third world panty waist

how is it not?

>It's gambling
>the citizens say it's gambling
>Reporters say it's gambling
>the government says it's gambling
>I say it isn't gambling so everyone but me is wrong

And if you were a window licker, you'd believe that it was the causal link, as opposed to the rich lobbying to pass laws to let them get richer

here is a study that proves lootboxes are psychologically gambling
aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/Environment_and_Communications/Gamingmicro-transactions/Public_Hearings

We can agree GOW is GOTY 2018 objectively

>objectively
popularity is the only objective measurement we have
got a problem with that?

>using THINK OF THE CHILDREN as a means to get rid off lootboxes
No trick is too dirty for me

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>They're asking you to stop being an idiot and to stop throwing money at every shitty EA title filled with microtransactions
just vote with ur wallet bro :)

yeah nah fuck off that shit doesn't work m8.

skins don't count apparently

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Retards that buy lootboxes in the first place deserve to be parted with their money.

Well no shit
What fucking part of "pay-to-win" did you not understand dipshit

Isn't this the same as what SJWs do then?

>everyone agrees so it must be right!

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Nope
AO is 18
The esrb is actually pretty professional and if they see excessive gore, uncensored tits and if the legislation passes lootboxes that’s an automatic AO

It'd be nice if they could do that without ruining video games for everyone else at the same time though.
Like, casinos already exist.

That's only in the microtransaction part. Lootboxes have a separate definition in the document.

Gambling is a social construct, so sort of?

We let this happen. We are a group starved for content we were willing to give anything for it just to satisfy our addiction. The government stepping in is an indication how the industry has fed on this content addiction for decades. DLC, microtransactions, P2W none of these should have gone out of hand yet they did. I am worried about thw future of this industry if the government is involved but I would rather deal with the lesser of two evils when it comes to the corporations who have bled us dry over the years.

>psychology
>the field with less credibility than my hamster that has a doctor in philosophy

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>No trick is too dirty for me
is that how you are going to explain posting reddit pictures without even bothering to change the filename to hide it?

This
Dude kids are racking up like 6,000 dollars in charges
That’s really fucking expansive for a stupid fucking game like candy crush so of course they want to reject the charge

meant to say direct-purchase skins

Only a souless bugman would whiteknight for p2w microtransactions

It’s just ass covering user

>It's not credible because I say so!

What would change your mind?

The real origins of lootbox style bullshit comes from EA Sports games around fifteen years ago. It was basically a social experiment back then and they slowly carried that shit on to everything else.
Meanwhile, the Korean Cash Shop model got big around the same time and overshadowed the bullshit going on in EA Sports games. Most people tried copying cash shops (mostly kept to MMOs, but you still had a lot of Horse Armor tier microtransactions) until EA lootboxes took over (TF2 probably being one of the most popular and prominent at that time).
Lootboxes have since gone unrestricted for a decade or so, as most countries' laws are typically a decade behind actual societal happenings.

Diablo 2 was more or less the first game that really popularized that grindy bullshit, endlessly re-re-re-re-re-redoing monotonous bullshit for extremely tiny chances of getting some super shiny that allows you to re-re-re-redo the same thing slightly more efficiently. I hate how much "randomized gear" has infested video games because of that shit.

Yes, and ?
Do you think my enemy used this, doesn't mean i cant used it?

>Retards who buy lootboxes deserve to dictitate how games are made for everyone who doesn't buy them
No

Awesome Overwatch is now completely with Super Anime Scat rape and murder game 4000 also rated AO

None of the games I play have them.

If this bill passes, EA's stock price would probably crater 80% overnight. Get fucked.

It means you're the same so when they pull shit you can't complain.

>muh moral high ground
By any means necessary

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>the people who claim it doesn't work, are people who voted with their wallet

If I walk away from video games because of lootboxes then why should I care if they get fucked over by regulations?

If this bill passes, Nintendo's stock price would probably crater 80% overnight. Get fucked.

That's literally the same logic flat earthers and anti-vax use.
I'm sorry for your educational environment

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>Missouri

Nothing of value was lost

Unironically based
I remember Hockey games used to have fighting parts

>I won't have to play with americucks again because Japanese devs will just ban american IPs
great

Quintessential boomer

This is some fucking prohibition shit since you ban it for everyone, not just children. By all means, ban kids from just about everything but stay out of my adult video games.

Go to hell you p2w piece of shit

Sounds like you have an addiction problem.

Why does Yea Forums have unironic gacha insect subhumans?
I remember when gacha/mobage threads were instantly shitposted and told to fuck off

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Worse, I'm a bit of a libertardian.

calm down retard, this bill is about games for children

>"""""Play""""""
You mean gamble for anime girls images incel

They would loose a lot more money that way then just letting people buy unlimited number of copies without microtransactions

Because gacha is just f2p mmo by another name and you underage faggots just piggyback off of the idea of that if you play it you must be spending your entire pay check

I dunno if I should be happy that the only exposure I've had to Granblue Fantasy is that one doujin where the girl gets off on magically aborting her own fetuses.

That's not an excuse to defend their kikery

gambling is usually about money and a chance to get nothing

you can eventually regulate everything if you want but you can't regulate stupid and taking away responsibility from everyone because of a few idiots breeds stupidity and dependence

that is socialism, the state does not care about you they only care about their own interest
regulation does not create freedom and benefit but it's opposites

if more and more needs to be regulated it is a sign of a decaying culture that hate their own god

what qualifies as pay to win in the legal sense? How do you back that up?

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Just a question
Would this allow parents to sue back publishers if a kid buys for thousands in MTX without adult consent ? To get their money back.

>you underage faggots just piggyback off of the idea of that if you play it you must be spending your entire pay check

Gachashitter detected.

The problem is that any F2P game with microtransactions starts catering solely to whales. It destroys the game to appease the 1% of big moneyspenders.

Read the fucking document. It defines all the terminology.

Yes all modern f2p mmos are complete garbage too and they at least have some gameplay unlike your gambling sims retard.

read the bill

Literal manchildren, lmao.

kids are stupid
kids need to be regulated
this bill is about games for kids
kys retard

Thanks for proving my point summerfags

>that is socialism
Are you trying to make it sound more appealing? Because you're making it sound more appealing

Aren't these the same people who recently decided trannies aren't mentally ill?

Because only a mental defect would claim Nintendo is EA-tier. This bill effects Nintendo just as much as it effects Squeenix and every other Japanese company who puts out gacha. EA has done far worse than just shitty mobile games

oh no, they'll come after uhhhhhhhhh...
all modern games are trash, they can try to come for emulation fags but you should already have a personal stockpile of roms by now

>N-Newfags
>Defends gacha
Cope

Dumb phoneposters make up half the site. Take a look at /vg/ and you'll realize how big of a miracle it is nu Yea Forums doesn't have more mobile threads. Neo Yea Forums was the last to tell phoneniggers to fuck off and in the coming years proto Yea Forums will solely be a mobileshit discussion board.

>"Hey, kids shouldn't see violence or sideboobs in their games!"
>"Damn you're right let's ban it!"
>Yea Forums: "This is good!"

I can't because you're 100% right

violence and sex are part of age ratings
now online gambling will be too
this is not about a ban, retard
kys

>muh summerfags
only retards enjoy games whose only appeal is porn that you have to pay for.

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Tu Quoque bitch
Also banning p2w microtransactions is nowhere near the same as censoring titty

America is becoming more socialist. 1 out of 152 Americans is in prison getting free food, housing, clothing, life saving health care, ect doing government mandated work. We have private prisons lobbying for harsher sentences and countless laws and beefed up police force ready to send even more murricans to their nearest socialist fun camp.

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>Dilate, seethe, have sex, etc
Learn a buzzword that actually has context summerfag or better yet get an actual argument

I'm an ancap and I agree with this, fuck whales, gachafags, paypigs and retarded underaged ironic weebs.

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Nothing because p2w apologists are the anti vaxxors of gaming

Gachas are literally the successor to MMOs, why didnt they ban the free ones? Korean ones in specific were always kusoge tier

>science is objective and the truth!
it's not much different from people who believe the earth isn't flat but enlightenment fags are 10x times worse

A pretty decent amount of people incarcerated in the USA are in private prisons

I don't care. None of the games I play will ever have them once it's gone.

holy fucking BASED

XC 2 is fine because you don't buy lootboxes in it. Your only option is to grind all your boxes.

Games like FGO and FEH are screwed if this passes. Granblue would fine because there is no US app for it, you can only play the JP version unofficially.

Can’t wait to see how the Berg and Stein Attorneys at Law get around it.

Nintendo is nowhere near as reliant on lootbox revenue as EA and Tencent. This fucks over western companies who rely on non-asisn markets moreso than anyone else

Dumb Trump don't kill my Dragalia Lost, i don't even roll the gatcha if not once every 3 months and i am 100% F2P, yet i am up to current endgame without issues

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>only ones seething about this are gachashitters

Literal subhumans.

Nobody's seething about it you reactionary faggot

Pretty sure that user was joking

Interesting but nothing will happen, as in most things where there needs to be actual change. Lobbyists kill anything that would go against them, and hurts their bottomline.

If this somehow gets codified into law AND remains unaltered, then we can discuss. Otherwise this means literally nothing.

nah I'm glad Americans will finally fuck off

>Tfw i just want to play card games
A-user it's not my fault for animufag whales

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Nobody is banning card games. Just stop with the pay to win bullshit.

GOD BLESS THE USA
SAVING THE GAME INDUSTRY

no
that user just assumed so
there is nothing in fortnite with chance
you pay for what you want, the drive to buy comes from the time limited nature of everything that shows up in the store

This threads hows otherwise

>anti-p2w
>reactionary
bwahahahahahahahhahahahahaahahahahahaha what a faggot

Ban Habbo hotel

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"hows" about a second take at that post faggot

>science is not objective
>hating lootboxes and p2w is reactionary

The absolute state

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Why do gachafags think the game will just STOP? Mobage are so cheap to make that if they made every SSR 5 dollars they would still make a profit

>desperately clinging unto a typo
as if we need any more proof gachaniggers are pathetic retarded weasels.

>>Belgium thinks its relevant
The Brussels effect is a thing for a reason

The AMOUNT of kids that bought hc with their parents' phone and/or credit card

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>i-it's just a typo you gacha defender!!!
Further proof you're a reactionary faggot that hasn't read the thread

>you must be 18 to purchase loot boxes
>click yes to 18
Wow Fuck my lootbox scheme is ruined.

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Just restrict any online purchases to be paid for by only credit/debit cards. There, problem solved. Minors can't get credit cards on their own, so any minor legally using one will be blamed on the parents since they're the ones who signed off on it, or if used illegally, be blamed on the minor since they're breaking the law.

shit the fick ip retard

>stutter posting
>parroting
>still clinging unto a typo
>still calling anti-p2w """""reactionary""""

Further proof you're a seething bitch with literal shit for brains. cope

My account is NA based

Yeah, and while we're at it, make them confirm that they're 18 or older too.

>not reading the document and pretending you know what you are talking about anyway

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Would that mean I would get a refund?

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Please explain how I'm wrong then. Or are you saying minors can legally get credit/debit cards on their own now?

maybe if they started adopting more anti-enlightenment ideas into their occupation and weren't so corrupt sacks of shit

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That only works for mobile and browser games. Also what makes you think stores like Apple will carry adult-only games on their store.

The credit card kinda requires that already. You're just asking for an unnecessary step in between.

shut the fuck up retard

Learn to read or learn a new buzzword faggot

Geez user, writing "I am retard" would take less key presses.

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because I'm not a zoomer like you who used to buy all gacha shit they could get and now feels betrayed when they realize how much money they wasted that they want to get back at those companies to compensate for their own retardation

Seethe harder insect.

This is not a bad start but to make it actually effective you would have to enforce age restrictions AND make it so that you have to enter your credit/debit number every time you try to purchase a lootbox. Do those two things, problem solved.

see

You're just mad you didn't get your waifu with your f2p currency, you manchild.

see

I hope they ban lootboxes for ALL ages, not just 17 under. Most whales are probably over 17 anyways so they'll still leave a negative impact on everyone's gaming experience.

Would this apply to street fighter and it's fight money to get costumes, or like future fight and it's costumes?

Do the costumes make your character stronger in some way? Are you buying them or getting them from lootboxes?