What do you think of castelvania on netflix?

Its 12 episodes TOTAL

Maybe you should fix your ADHD

Edgy pretentious trash that fails to capture any of the spirit of the video game franchise.

A three hour struggle to stay awake, followed by the best anime fights of all fucking time.
And then everyone is sad.

The main trio were great, but the pacing was dreadful, plodding far too long with the church in part 1 and vampire politics for part 2. Ellis let his fedora be too tight and it became laughable to spend that much time against the church, which the series hardly even deals with, when Dracula is clearly commanding absolute evil and was always a douchebag, as established by the first scene of the series. The Lament of Innocence backstory actively hurts any sympathy even further, as it means he was the biggest twat in the entire universe and spent 300 years fucking over humans and even his fellow vampires for no reason whatsoever. The vampire politics were pitifully empty and dry, and just conveyed the sense that Dracula's entire offensive stopped due to one town being defended one night by Trevor's "get the band together" moment. It just made everyone look far more impotent and stupid than was likely intended.

Also, Ellis mismanaged his time so badly that Grant didn't get to exist in the series. What the fuck dude, it's a four-man group and Grant's the first guy you can meet. He's also the one dude with the most connections to saving Wallachia itself and rebuilding it from all the devastation. He'd be perfect for calling out Dracula and the church alike as being full of shit.

Sypha is way too cute for how brutally she kills dudes.

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fucking boring

>Hector in the Season 2 Finale.

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I liked the parts that have to do with the main trio and not the ALL POWERFUL DEMON, DRACULA moping around like a baby in his study in S2. It’s boring representation. That and I while I did like the backstory for each vampire/antsy to an extent I did feel like it dragged on far too long.

Honestly yeah, but the setup was pretty good assuming they adapt Hector's story next season.

The main trios banter was godlike tho

Beautiful cinnamon roll, too good for this world, too pure.

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The second season dragged on with vampire intrigue that went absolutely nowhere outside of setting up Carmilla but there were cool designs in there like the Russian vampire and the Chinese jiang shi mist vampire. It spent too long on things that didn't matter in favor of things that did, and there was painfully little Trevor/Alucard/Sypha interaction (no Grant?).

Dracula going soft pretty quickly, I'm not sure how I feel about it since it's not like Dracula hasn't thought twice about it multiple times within the series and it amounts to nothing. Hell, Symphony of the Night ends with Dracula begging forgiveness, and Symphony introduced the "Alucard's mom burns at the stake" plot to begin with. Trevor's great the whole way around and Sypha made me interested in the magic system that the setting abides by and where mages fit into the world.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODBRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND

I watched and it was fine aside from the black gay north african muslim who was most likely created to fulfill some sort of obnoxious diversity checklist.

It's the definition of okay. Though the 'I'm killing my boy' part is pure kino

DUDE FUCK RELIGION LMAO

He's a more interesting character in the anime than he was in Curse of Darkness

I want to drink Sypha's beer!

corrupt religion
>the priest as a possessed meat-puppet under a vampire's will was holier than the actual man and capable of sanctifying water

That's more or less "DUDE FUCK RELIGION LMAO". It's essentially implying that rather than holy power, it's more or less a magic trick.

You're such a faggot

Voiced by Peter Stromare too, why did he have to get killed off while that cunt Carmillia survived? ;_;

For being right?

For being a crybaby bitch

Weak second season, but overall not bad.

is OK at best, my biggest issue is that dont feel like castlevania at all. No medusa, no frankenstein, no conan vs hammer mosnters at all.

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Oh I fucking loved that shit out of it. I have a thing for subversive american media.

>holy weapons work

no, it uh it really isn't, it's about as direct a statement as you'll get that the priest thought he was a holy man but wasn't and even his unthinking body was more of a man of god, there's another priest that sanctifies water in the village led against demons and trevor remarks that he's a legit priest since he was able to do it

you're here every thread throwing a fit about "dude religion" but you tip your fedora even harder than the director did in the process

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Since the 3 main characters were fully developed at the end of season one the writers threw them in a basement for the bulk of season two.

>and even his unthinking body was more of a man of god
>Undead creature filled with negative energy, being controlled by a direct spawn of satan
>Ever having room to argue about this
Nah. This conversation is entirely meaningless until you get around these two points. There is no logical reason why any holy power would work for any unholy being, regardless of the composition of the corpse used, unless you relegate it to just plain Jane magic. Anything short of this is just sophistry.

Not even about religion. It was a corrupt member of clergy, showing corruption in the church.

The vampire politics drug on for way too long. Besides that it's great.
Also where the fuck is Grant?

I wanna fuck the girl. I forgot her name.

Have you not played a Castlevania game since 1986?

Constantly showing an entity only ever doing bad things is staunchly anti-that thing.

story isn't great but the animation and artstyle is fantastic

>Undead creature filled with negative energy, being controlled by a direct spawn of satan
and burning in the holy water he created as a result, god doesn't seem to be terribly picky in castlevania about what's invoking him as long as it isn't the unholy creature itself. hell there's holy-element demons like fallen angels in casltevania games, evil creatures can invoke good powers and often do

do i trust a character's statement that god was involved with the creation of holy water and thus you have to be a good enough man of the cloth to create it (something that the living man was not shown doing or even remotely embodying the virtues necessary) or do i trust an user trying to argue against the show's own plot because he doesn't agree with it

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the my boy is kino is like saying this scene is kino
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I have 0 prior experience with Castlevania and I enjoyed it. Something tells me that was the way it was intended to be experienced.

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Sypha. Unless you mean the vampire girl, that's Carmilla.

Not everything is a political statement, user. Making room in the story for some good priests would have just dragged this shit out even longer.

Yeah you can walk into it not really knowing Castlevania and make out fine. If you're a fan though there's shit-tons of stuff to notice in background details and you'll already have an idea of who does what, how, and why. Down in the Belmont hold there's references to almost every game in one way or another.

I don't follow what you mean by "constantly showing," the corrupt priest was a major character in season 1. Arcs can't focus on corrupt priests without you bitching or something? Besides, the holy weapons still work, which proves more than anything that faith is real and valid in the Netflix series.

>god doesn't seem to be terribly picky in castlevania about what's invoking him as long as it isn't the unholy creature itself.
Brrrt. Undead are full of unholy energy to make them move and are specifically unholy themselves. Try again.

>Not everything is a political statement, user
That's literally how propaganda works, user. They teach this shit in 4th grade in real countries. What's your excuse?

>Undead are full of unholy energy to make them move and are specifically unholy themselves.
headcanon

>Dracula: Indiscriminately massacres a whole town because they couldnt stand up to a tyrannical bishop burning his wife on a stake
>Also Dracula: Throws his best friend Leon Belmont under the bus by turning Leon's wife into a vampire while he himself trying to become a vampire who were sacrificed to create the Vampire Killer, jumpstarting an ages long clan-spanning vendetta and not even feeling guilty about it.

I want to sympathize with Netflix Dracula but the image of him being a giant whiny hypocrite is now stuck in my mind
Reminder he did all that to Leon Belmont because his first wife died, going "muh curse god" and needlessly adding Leon's wife into his stupid plan. Granted this backstory was in a game made after SotN and all that but still. I'm also pissed Grant Danasty is not in the netflix animated series

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I wish Hector was allowed to be cool.

But this is a cartoon show made for entertainment. Not propaganda.

Don't know why people disliked the Vampire politics. The two characters in it were interesting. God brand and carmillia are great while draculas human butt buddy's have some distinct personalities. Ofcourse they could've had more of the castle. But it was already heavily hinted that dracula didn't give two shits about existing and just wanted to destroy both sides

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It's anti-Christian because he says so, these rules for how Castlevania's good/evil dichotomy actually works and what's allowed under it that no entry of the series follows prove it.

>I don't follow what you mean by "constantly showing,
Gee, the roaming bandits of Church thugs, the fact that ALL of the Church actions cause all of the bad things to happen, the fact that a game that is deeply based in showcasing religious icons in a game that is about holy warriors vs Devil stand in is now relegated to spending 80% of its time fighting the Church...HMMMMM. Thinking emoji.

>Besides, the holy weapons still work, which proves more than anything that faith is real and valid in the Netflix series.
Shown to be explicitly false with the priest in the water scene.

Fact in the Castlevania series, and also generally assumed with how undead work with the forgemasters and magic present. Also the fact that the undead are generally unholy. To take your stance is to try and stretch, I think.

It's anti-christian because the main writer of the show is explicitely anti-christian and goes out of his way to bleed his ideas into the paper.
warrenellis.com/throwing-them-to-lions-was-probably-more-fun/
This is just writing and story-telling 101; Passing down ideas to the listener.

It has the Netflix "current year" quality.

Wasn't there supposed to be a Metroid show too?

Disappointed with how they handled the belmont-dracula interactions. When they finally fought him Dracula just kind of dismissed Trevor when his family has literally been trying to find and kill him for centuries.

DMC i think

Some of the dialogue, especially in season 2 was pretty iffy imo. The part that sticks out most in my mind was the quippy flirting between Trevor and Sypha. It read like a bad comic book. Liked it overrall though, that's more of a small personal gripe more than anything.

Daily reminder to not interact with christfags, it indulges their persecution complex

Season 1 had promise but Season 2 was a shitshow save for the last two episodes. Also Warren Ellis needs to stop slapping his religion hateboner in everything he writes already. And fuck them for blatantly stating they didn't add Grant just because Warren didn't like him.

I'm not even in an abrahamic religion, let alone Catholic or Christian. I just know how to look objectively at what the fuck I'm watching.

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Need a third season.

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This, desu. I think people were just so hyped by how awesome and relatable Trevor and his crew were that they were just sort of bummed out that the same momentum wasn't able to be kept in the second season.

Despite how well the second season fleshed out Dracula's crew, it's just hard for the audience to relate to them quite as much as the heroes.

>the roaming bandits of Church thugs
What, like 10 minutes of animation at most? In only season 1 too.

>the fact that ALL of the Church actions cause all of the bad things to happen
Human ignorance is what causes everything to happen. The series never defends Dracula's wrath as being a good thing either.

>the fact that a game that is deeply based in showcasing religious icons in a game that is about holy warriors vs Devil stand in is now relegated to spending 80% of its time fighting the Church
First off, calling the Castlevania games "deeply based in showcasing religions icons" is bullshit. The show has the holy weapons, does it not? It has depictions of religious architecture, does it not? That's about the extent of "religious icons" in the games. You have Trevor kneeling in prayer at the beginning of Castlevania 3 and that's basically it as far as any religious attitudes among the game characters go. Second, the Netflix series isn't about fighting the church "80% of its time," did you watch season 2 or not? Did you even watch season 1?

>Shown to be explicitly false with the priest in the water scene.
Holy weapons still have blessed effects regardless of who uses them, and the main antagonist is still Dracula.

It's good.
It has that anime style without the retarded humor.

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???

>All those Godbrand lines that Peter Stromare completely phoned in

I've never seen a more interesting character ruined by a completely half-assed performance

You're not serious. I watched 3 episodes and there was not a SINGLE character from the church that had ANY redeeming features. They even played out that the fucking gypsies were good bois dindu nuffin' wrong.
There was hardly a sentence that wasn't about how evil the Church was. Belmont didn't even care about fucking Dracula, who had sent his demons to scourge the towns, filling them with blood and corpses. He was too busy shitting on the Church, and the church was too busy being cartoonishly evil.
At some point, you have to cede that either you're full of shit or the cartoon is blatant anti-Christian.
I mean -- how would you take it if Richter Belmont ran into a self-proclaimed Atheist every 2-3 minutes and that Atheist was 1-dimensionally, diabolically evil, saying shit like "I don't believe in God, so I don't believe in right or wrong. Now I'm going to rape every girl I see!!! Bwa ha ha ha!" and it went on for several episodes that way? Would you eventually say "What is this bullshit?" or would you say "No, he's certainly not talking about all atheists! I can't wait for him to meet Dracula!"

Daily reminder not to interact with christfags, it indulges their persecution complex.

Devil may cry

>Fact in the Castlevania series
castlevania rarely if ever goes into any deeper workings of anything going on outside of "sick-ass demons from hell are on the loose" and i can't recall a single instance where it treats monsters as you describe, matter of fact there are a great many creatures that go against it such as valkyries in aria of sorrow
>and goes out of his way to bleed his ideas into the paper.
the series explicitly states god is real and extends favor to virtuous men several times user, i wouldn't call a local church-branch and its corrupt head trying to become the head of the entire faith, being slaughtered like a pig by sick-ass demons from hell who tell him god is real, and an actual priest creating holy water to be anti-christian by any stretch of the imagination

and don't out yourself with that Yea Forums-tier "looking at it objectively" nonsense, you jumped the shark there and this is the last reply (You)'ll receive from me

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>What, like 10 minutes of animation at most? In only season 1 too.
Incorrect. Also the entire opening of Season 2. And they are the core reason why Season 1 happens. This isn't even including the fact that the blame for Lisa's death shifted from "The villagers/Humans" in Symphony to "Explicitly the Church, who then go on to further ignore Dracula's very real threat".

>Human ignorance is what causes everything to happen.
In the game. Not in the Netflix series.

>First off, calling the Castlevania games "deeply based in showcasing religions icons" is bullshit
Gothic imagery is staunchly tied to religious iconography. Full stop. Check out the shit they got away with on the FUCKING NES during Nintendo's worst years as a censor king. I'm not even going to read the rest of this paragraph this is so blatantly wrong from the word go.

>Holy weapons still have blessed effects regardless of who uses them
Too bad the validity of their "holiness" is brought into question when you have undead creating holy water and the juxtaposition of alchemy and magic.

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And without the retarded power creep every anime has for the protag. I adored that they managed to have the three working together without it being some Trevor belmont God mode shit

And that is too many. It may not be anime tier slow, but there's still a whole lot of pointless meandering shit that could be cut to give way to more important shit, like adding Grant to the team.

Yeah, the only protagonist that's really powerful is the one should be. And that doesn't really come out until the last fight.

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>this projection
Please tell us how difficult those horrible Christians have made your life -- forcing you to go to Sunday School when you were little! The horror! Yes, it's the Christians suffering from a persecution complex and not you!

I rather liked them all having their own strengths and weaknesses and complimenting eachother as a result, or directly working together. Trevor being able to more than hold his own against Alucard was great.

It's netflix tier slow, like their marvel shows

>castlevania rarely if ever goes into any deeper workings of anything going on outside of-

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I had honestly forgotten that game even existed until I searched for it just now. I don't think I ever got far enough in it to meet the character in question.

The pope himself was the driving force in the fight against the villains in the series. Many of the protagonists were personally employed by the Church.

Sypha herself was a devoted Christian but they turned her and her group into god hating pagans in this series.

Her design reminds me so much of that Atlantis movie Disney made.

It is not as slow as fucking marvel/modern TV shows. I do hope S3 is more like 1, however.

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>I watched 3 episodes and there was not a SINGLE character from the church that had ANY redeeming features. They even played out that the fucking gypsies were good bois dindu nuffin' wrong.
This doesn't make it propaganda, except if propaganda means to you, "everything which expresses an attitude I don't agree with."

>Incorrect. Also the entire opening of Season 2.
Still a minor takeaway that you're blowing out of proportion.

>And they are the core reason why Season 1 happens.
So what? They were ignorant, and arrogant people. Why are you defending shitty people?

>This isn't even including the fact that the blame for Lisa's death shifted from "The villagers/Humans" in Symphony to "Explicitly the Church, who then go on to further ignore Dracula's very real threat".
It's not a major shift honestly. The church, when they did appear in the games, were fairly negligent and uncooperative. Symphony also suggested that there was a witch hunt like mentality that lead to Lisa's death, and Lisa tells Alucard not to do harm to them, as if they are small and ignorant things that deserve pity.

>In the game. Not in the Netflix series.
100% in the Netflix series as well. All the church members are just ignorant and arrogant people. It's just you who is attributing more to their characters.

>I'm not even going to read the rest of this paragraph
Because you don't want to contend with my argument, you'd rather ignore it altogether. Good one, glad to see you're really in this to have a discussion and not just beat others over the head with your personal views.

>Too bad the validity of their "holiness" is brought into question when you have undead creating holy water and the juxtaposition of alchemy and magic.
I don't see why it would. They are holy weapons regardless of the wielder. Even Alucard uses holy weapons in Symphony, and Soma in Aria.

>but they turned her and her group into god hating pagans in this series.
Not even, she describes herself and the Seekers as enemies of God for chronicling pre-Tower of Babel information, not literally being against Him.

And he still needs the help of Trevor and sypha. It really feels like a fresh breath of air see characters act like a team instead of just sitting in background
How's that war on Christmas going? Shouldn't you be in Alabama to keep your cousin from aborting your abomination?

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>Soma in Aria
Soma is not undead.
Also Soma isn't really evil unless you royally fucked up and got the bad ending

Soma is still the reincarnation of Dracula, but whatever. Alucard is still able to use them and he's a dhampir.

>The pope himself was the driving force in the fight against the villains in the series. Many of the protagonists were personally employed by the Church.
Uh, no? After Lament of Innocence, the Belmonts and the church had nothing to do with each other. Trevor only hears from them several centuries later when they're in need of his family's service. The church is overall either very low key or negligent in the games.

>Sypha herself was a devoted Christian but they turned her and her group into god hating pagans in this series.
God hating is a stretch. She called the Speakers enemies of God, which is a different thing. They seem dedicated to their own faith. It comes across as meaning that in the current time period, the church has soiled the image of God by being institutionally corrupt.

>Still a minor takeaway that you're blowing out of proportion.
Literally not, given the entirety of the context of the show, the context of the writer's stance on religion and the fact that he habitually writes the Church as the bad guy in all of his works, and the tone taken overall in regards to anything religious. To ignore this evidence is tantamount to simply agreeing with him and attempting to tell others "it's not a problem because I personally don't feel like it's a problem".

>So what? They were ignorant
>Why are you defending shitty people?
Because the writer completely changed the tone of the games to inject his personal philosophy in a series that wasn't his?

>All the church members are just ignorant and arrogan
Showcasing ALL of an organization or entity's beliefs in such a 1-sided way is propaganda per definition.

>Because you don't want to contend with my argument,
Except I did. I even included this sentence at the end of it because I so thoroughly blew the fuck out of your initial assertion that reading the rest would have been a waste of time. Address the main argument of that paragraph first before you try and falsely victory-eject.

>I don't see why it would.
That's because you are stupid. Observer your next statement:
>They are holy weapons regardless of the wielder.
The question isn't whether or not the weapons become more or less holy with the wielder. The question becomes "are they holy in the first place?"

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>The church is overall either very low key or negligent in the games.
Yeah, I recall the most prominent they ever were was Order of Ecclesia where it's a branch of the Church that created glyphs as an anti-Dracula weapon (that was then immediately subverted by their own Dominus glyph corrupting the head priest) and Portrait of Ruin where they send a bumbling Friar Tuck-lookin' priest out to check out Castlevania. Otherwise I only really remember Yoko Belnades saying she works with the church as an explicit connection past Castlevania 3.

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>The church is overall either very low key or negligent in the games.
False. Trever quests out for Sypha because the Pope asked him too after the Church sent her and her team out. Also, later on in the series in general, the Church remains fairly connected and interested in the events ongoing against Dracula. Aria's Dialog alone confirms this:
>Graham Jones: No, it's all true. It was leaked to the outside world. Usually, the church handles these things with utmost secrecy... Over the course of time, Dracula has resurrected many times... when people lost faith... and craved chaos and destruction...
>Yoko Belnades: Oh, forgive me. I'm Yoko Belnades. I'm a member of the church.

>"I don't believe in God, so I don't believe in right or wrong. Now I'm going to rape every girl I see!!! Bwa ha ha ha!" and it went on for several episodes that way? Would you eventually say "What is this bullshit?" or would you say "No, he's certainly not talking about all atheists! I can't wait for him to meet Dracula!"
The latter

>Because the writer completely changed the tone of the games to inject his personal philosophy in a series that wasn't his?
Where does it say God is bad, it says the church is bad and pretty much just that branch of the church that they deal with locally because of its powermongering (Is he anti-Christian or are you backpedaling to him being anti-Church?). All your posts are a lot of hot air saying you know better than the people that wrote the piece of fiction which makes you a pompous faggot more than anything.

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Wasn't that bad, good fight scenes and decent characterization for the main characters. The supporting cast doesn't really go anywhere and mostly just serves to set up carmilla and the black guy for later, which is a shame.
Nice touch having bloody tears play out during that big fight scene at the entrance of the castle, my dick hadn't been that hard in a while.

>Where does it say God is bad, it says the church is bad
Shifting the goal posts? When were we talking about God instead of Religion and the Church exactly?

Fuck it, let me kick one into those goal posts your moving, when is the Church not a representative of God exactly? Because YOU feel like they aren't?

Read the fucking manuals retard. The pope's involvement is even in Castevania III which this series is based on.

>anti Christian
Good

I should think latching onto just one point of your post instead of addressing the whole thing like the guy did previously would clue you in that it wasn't him and it's somebody else but there again your viewpoint is apparently objective by your own say-so from earlier so your head's somewhere in the stratosphere anyways
>When were we talking about God
About when you decided to start blatting on about the director being an anti-Christian and injecting his viewpoints into his work >when is the Church not a representative of God exactly?
Just about every point of its existence, muddied even further when more than one definitive church sprang into being

>Literally not, given the entirety of the context of the show
The context of the show being a spinoff series of a game franchise, right? A game franchise which I am showing you isn't all that church-promoting.

> the context of the writer's stance on religion and the fact that he habitually writes the Church as the bad guy in all of his works
Irrelevant to the discussion of details in this series.

>the tone taken overall in regards to anything religious.
Which I've explained you've exaggerated to suit your arguments, which I now think are fueled by a personal vendetta against the writer.

>To ignore this evidence is tantamount to simply agreeing with him
What a classy maneuver. "You're arguing with me so you must be part of them!"

>Because the writer completely changed the tone of the games to inject his personal philosophy in a series that wasn't his?
It wasn't "completely changed." As I stated here there are huge areas of the timeline where the church is pretty damn negligent all things considered.

>Showcasing ALL of an organization or entity's beliefs in such a 1-sided way is propaganda per definition.
No it isn't, because it isn't fiction's duty to constantly show all sides of the argument at all times.

>Except I did.
You didn't because you outright said you stopped reading. You're exaggerating the presence of religious significance in the games to suit your arguments.

>The question becomes "are they holy in the first place?"
If they work against vampires / demons, they are holy. That's how it works in Castlevania, dumb fuck.

Lament of Innocence introduced new facts to the story. If you faggots really cared about Castlevania's story, why aren't you aware of this? Per Lament's story, the church and the Belmont clan stop communicating.

>I should think latching onto just one point of your post instead of addressing the whole thing
Except he shifted goalposts, so he's not even addressing my posts. He's trying to shift the point and argue that. Actually might be closer to a strawman now that I think about it.

>like the guy did previously would clue you in that it wasn't him and it's somebody else
Why does that matter? Is this your first day on Yea Forums? We have arguments where the first two people who started it aren't the same people when it's over.

>when you decided to start blatting on about the director being an anti-Christian
Kay. Point to me the word "God" in any of those posts.

>Just about every point of its existence
????

Complete garbage and shit. I hate everything about this abomination. The unnecessary swearing, making Isaac black for the forced White Guilt of MUH SLAVERY bullshit, making Trevor Belmont NOT accomplished given he didn't really beat Dracula, all the constant repetitive "All men are manchildren" bullshit you can tell s o y drinking and estrogen injecting beta Leftist pieces of shit created this abomination. Complete garbage. Absolute shit. I wish CANCER on every single person who took part in the creation of this shit.

And I pray that those bastards do not get their hands on Devil May Cry which is another property these same hacks want to destroy with their Leftism.

>why are you shifting goalposts
>no actually i was talking about the other guy not you the guy i addressed
Lmao got 'em
>Why does that matter?
Don't address me as the other guy if you were aware, Cletus
>Kay. Point to me the word "God" in any of those posts.
Are you being dense on purpose
>????
Survey says

I was about to actually ask you something but I saw you sperg out with like fifty buzzwords mid-post and lost interest.

>making Isaac black for the forced White Guilt of MUH SLAVERY bullshit
I didn't get this impression from his character.

>all the constant repetitive "All men are manchildren" bullshit
Doesn't that just come from Carmilla? Who is a vampire and traditionally a lesbian as well. It didn't seem to be promoting her views.

Rest of your points are definitely valid though. It wasn't that good.

Go outside, /pol/ has rotted your brain

Let's not forget that Carmilla is portrayed as deceitful, vindictive and has no problem taking slaves herself. Not exactly what you'd call a role model.

>and here we have the rare unironic shitposter in his natural habitat

>The context of the show[...]
The context of the show's *plotline and themes. I genuinely thought this would be obvious considering the topic.

>Irrelevant to the discussion of details in this series.
Absolutely false. It is entirely relevant to the mens rea of the artist injecting the philosophy.

>Which I've explained you've exaggerated to suit your arguments
Except it's not exaggerated. The cartoonish villainous actions of the Church are explicit and over the top.
>which I now think are fueled by a personal vendetta against the writer.
Also false. I didn't know who the writer was until I started arguing these points with the /r/Atheism visitors we have to these threads, and facts were dug up in the process.

>What a classy maneuver.
I restate my earlier supposition of /r/Atheism visitors.

>As I stated here
And then myself and another user explicitely mentioned SEVERAL games where the Church was still implied to be heavily involved, and this isn't counting the games before 3 either. But, no, LoI not communicating with a cursed Trevor means...something?

>No it isn't
I even linked the definition of Propaganda for you. It is by definition propaganda.

>You didn't because you outright said you stopped reading
After addressing your initial assertion to a point where you can't argue anything except one tail end of the line.

>If they work against vampires / demons, they are holy
On what grounds exactly?

It also came from Dracula who describes Hector as:

"He has the body of a man, but the mind of a child."

And Dracula at this point in the story was fond of Hector so what a terrible thing to say to one of his Devil Forge Masters. Then there's also Sypha who describes Alucard as being another manchild because according to the hacks who wrote this Alucard ages faster than humans so he physically looks like an adult, but he is not. Something that is NOT in the games.

The whole "manchild this" and "manchild that" bullshit is just insulting. Fuck these sons and daughter of bitches who created this garbage. And more than anything I hate how many STUPID Castlevania fans are swallowing this shit. I want Konami to rip the property away from these bastards.

>>why are you shifting goalposts
>>no actually i was talking about the other guy not you the guy i addressed
>Lmao got 'em
?????
>Don't address me as the other guy if you were aware, Cletus
First day on Yea Forums, huh?
>Are you being dense on purpose
You know, you don't really make me mad if I know you're doing it on purpose.

>I didn't know who the writer was until I started arguing these points with the /r/Atheism visitors we have to these threads,
Which was months ago, because it's pretty much you and only you who maintains the show holds an explicit bias against the Church. You're in every one of these things in early-morning/late-night hours, dude.

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>Which was months ago, because it's pretty much you and only you who maintains the show holds an explicit bias against the Church.
Sorry I have facts that you redditors like to ignore because it feeds into your fedora tipping? The fact that you recognize me from earlier threads means you're probably one of the same noisy jackasses that gives up on the argument halfway through when you run out of facts yourselves.

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He's fond of Hector specifically because he believes Hector to be profoundly naïve and idealistic, and those are qualities he wishes were more prevalent across mankind. In his eyes that's a compliment. You have to be really fucking retarded to not understand that given that it's hammered down multiple times.

>Sorry I have facts that you redditors like to ignore
Where are they?

My ass

Here's the starter package for you.

So one overzealous and fanatical bishop and his henchmen thugs represent the entirety of the church.
I see.

Castlevania 3 is one of my top 5 favorite games so you can imagine I didn't like it.

>Ignores the links, the direct quotes, the images, and even the actual description of events
>Strawmans the typical "Oh it's only like 4 guys, it's not THAT bad!" statement that's been proven false several times already
Yawn.

>The context of the show's *plotline and themes.
Oh okay, well no problem, since I've already corrected you on what these entail over and over in this thread. For example, saying the show was blaming religion for Dracula's wrath, when it was clearly human arrogance that was being blamed, and everyone with half a brain at least realized this while watching.

>Except it's not exaggerated. The cartoonish villainous actions of the Church are explicit and over the top.
At no point does the show make explicit that the actions of the corrupt church members represent "the Church and Christianity at large."

>I didn't know who the writer was until I started arguing these points with the /r/Atheism visitors we have
>I restate my earlier supposition of /r/Atheism visitors.
lol, no personal vendetta indeed.

>And then myself and another user explicitely mentioned SEVERAL games where the Church was still implied to be heavily involved, and this isn't counting the games before 3 either. But, no, LoI not communicating with a cursed Trevor means...something?
I wonder how much you've even played these games. Do you honestly think any of the games ever strongly focused on the church? Besides maybe Lords of Shadow, I didn't play those games so I wouldn't know. The rest though, the church is really an afterthought or a background detail, nothing more. The Belmont clan is its own thing, separate from the church, dutiful and faithful, also utilizing alchemy to fight (which Lament also suggests the church does not like iirc). Also, whatever is mentioned about the church being a force of good, there are STILL mentions of the church not being a force of good, and the series took place closer to when these mentions were floating around in the games.

>It is by definition propaganda.
So is all art if you want to get technical, which I have no interest in getting, but you seem to want me to.

>On what grounds exactly?
They work against forces of evil. Nothing else matters.

Well, considering there wasn't any of that in any of your posts, I couldn't help but ignore the inexistent.

You even argue like a flat earther, amazing

I'm not reading all that self-fellating hogshit a second time, your core argumentative loop is "The show is anti-Christian because of its treatment of the Catholic Church -> The branch of the Church depicted in the Netflix series is representative of the Church in its entirety -> Anything holy in Castlevania is magic until further notice -> The director can't help but insert anti-Christian messages into his work, Castlevania included -> The show is anti-Christian because of its treatment of the Catholic Church", sprinkled with deft avoidance of any accusations that you're deciding what is and is not "legitimate" in the setting based on your own say-so. You're a solved puzzle, mate, the only reason you aren't ignored outright is because Yea Forums thrives by biting the bait.

Season 2 was 60% lame sidequest shit, the new villians are wet towels compared to how well Dracula was done.

>For example, saying the show was blaming religion for Dracula's wrath, when it was clearly human arrogance that was being blamed
In the game. In the Netflix series, the Church is shown to be the direct cause of her execution, and then again shown to ignore Dracula's curse. "Humans" don't enter into the equation. You don't need half a brain to just look and see what's being shown to you.

>At no point does the show make explicit that the actions of the corrupt church members represent "the Church and Christianity at large."
Except by the fact that it's literally all of the Church members in the show that are demonstrating these traits with absolutely no counterbalance to them whatsoever. Whoops. That's propaganda user.

>lol, no personal vendetta indeed.
You don't exactly need a personal vendetta to see a group of people that belong on lolcow. Or would it be a personal vendetta if I just said you were from /pol/ instead of reddit?

>I wonder how much you've even played these games.[...]
Enough to realize the entire premises of the games are Church vs Devil stand-in, something you've clearly been ignoring for the sake of your head cannon. You're still ignoring direct quotes and plotlines in many of the games, including Order of Ecclesia and Portrait of Ruin. The Church and Belmonts are fairly tight, and your ONLY excuse to the otherwise so far has been a strenuous background lore in a single game, Lament.

>So is all art if you want to get technical
The fuck? No it's not. I explained this to you several times. Showing a group only doing negative things is anti-group. That's propaganda.

>They work against forces of evil. Nothing else matters.
So does fire, retard.

Yawn.

False equivilency. You have yet to show any single fact that proves my statements wrong, whereas I have posted several facts that show my opponents directly wrong, such as user's assertion that the Church isn't involved in the games.

>Be Christcuck
>Get angered over a fucking cartoon series portrayal of God
MY FUCKING SIDES

>In the game.
In the show as well. It's very obvious; I don't understand how you can look at how the bishop and archbishop behave and think, "this show is clearly trying to make my religion look bad!" I mean, do you deny that there aren't corrupt members of clergy out there? Who's the propagandist then?

>Except by the fact that it's literally all of the Church members in the show that are demonstrating these traits
So there are no other church members in the show's setting? When did it establish this?

>Enough to realize the entire premises of the games are Church vs Devil stand-in
The only games you can really make this argument for is 1-3 and only during the years they alone were out.

>The Church and Belmonts are fairly tight, and your ONLY excuse to the otherwise so far has been a strenuous background lore in a single game, Lament.
The church isn't mentioned in quite a few of them, and that "strenuous background lore" is a major plot point of that game. That whole game's story sets the stage quite differently for every other game: the Belmont clan became a family of alchemists dedicated to studying and hunting Dracula beyond the church's own interests.

>Showing a group only doing negative things is anti-group.
Yeah, but the group isn't "the whole church" in the show, so this point is moot.

>So does fire, retard.
Fire works against anything. Holy weapons specifically hurt the undead. Working on the undead is all that matters to make them holy.

laffd

>be actual christian
>dont have a problem with how netflix castlevania portrays the church.
Wow its almost like i dont specifically look for stuff to be offended about.

>Be coward
>Don't reply to the guy you're insulting
>Plead to the audience instead, asking for people to agree with you

>It's very obvious; I don't understand how you can look at how the bishop and archbishop behave and think, "this show is clearly trying to make my religion look bad!"
1. Again, not a christfag, ain't my religion.
2. Because those actions, again, shifted from the actual story of "The villagers" who overreacted to Lisa's science, and then instead shift it solely on the shoulders of the Church, who then espouse Church-like reasons for why these actions are happening.
>I mean, do you deny that there aren't corrupt members of clergy out there?
Let me ask you this: Suppose I made a cartoon in which a large portion of the cast and the active villain were black people, and in almost every shot I show them jacking cars and mugging and raping. Is this not propaganda, even though there exists black people that do these things?

>So there are no other church members in the show's setting?
Are there no other black people in the world? What's wrong with my cartoon from above where I only show black people stealing cars and raping?

>The only games you can really make this argument for is 1-3 and only during the years they alone were out.
And 4. And Dracula X/Rondo of Blood. An the gameboy games. And 64. And CoD. And Portrait. And Order. And...

>The church isn't mentioned in quite a few of them
>I'm gonna ignore like half of the series because they don't say the word Church in it!
Lol. Not even gonna bother with this one. I think you know it's a dead horse at this point if this is your excuse to start out with.

>Yeah, but the group isn't "the whole church" in the show, so this point is moot.
Yeah, but the group isn't "all black people" in my show, so this point is moot.

>Working on the undead is all that matters to make them holy.
You're treating Holy as a magic keyword and not really at it's origin and why that matters.

Its not great but I enjoy it.

I'm from Romania and I can confirm the Church here is really corrupt so the way that it was portrayed in the series was pretty spot on.

>I'm gonna ignore like half of the series because they don't say the word Church in it!
Hey, why not, you did the same thing earlier. Point that first nigga to the word "Church" in any of the games.

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NOOOOO IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PROPAGANDAAAAAAAA AAAAHHHHHH

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Retard.

He is literally the first character you meet in the game at the very start

How about all those games where the Church is intrinsically tied to events but the word doesn't come up ever in the game, which is what you know that I was talking about?

my immediate dislike of both Carmilla and Godbrand's characters ruined the vampire politics for me. i just did not care about them at all. i found them both annoying.

>not liking Godbrand
What are you, gay?

Where they go with Carmilla will be entertaining, at least, they established pretty well she has a pathological obsession with being the "adult" in the room to the point of denigrating anybody she hates, disagrees with, or wants to use as a pawn as being a child. She'll be fun to see throw a tantrum when she's losing whenever S3 hits.

2. 3. 4. Portrait. Etc.

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Trevor asks for a validly ordained priest to step forward and make holy water and one does. Doesn’t that imply that a lot of the thuggish priests weren’t even validly ordained and were just stooges of the bishop? Even Catholics have a saying that the roads of hell are paved with the skulls of erring priests with bishops as signposts, so it’s pretty well known that evil people have gained power in the church at times.

it was pretty enjoyable.
Realest nigga of them all.
Just wanted to have fun and a good meal.

>Trevor asks for a validly ordained priest to step forward and make holy water and one does.
This used to be an argument until season 2, when a vampire makes a very renowned false-priest with no holy powers whatsoever use the magic to make a river into holy water, implying it's just run of the mill magic that targets undead.

2 mentions the church in-game and shows it benevolently, 3 doesn't go into it at all past the intro and relegates it to backstory, 4 I don't recall bringing up the church anywhere (was a CV1 retelling anyways), Portrait gives you a clergyman as a merchant. You're not listening to the question that's being asked of you, how is the church heavily involved in events with the games where the church is not mentioned whatsoever?

>Suppose I made a cartoon in which a large portion of the cast and the active villain were black people, and in almost every shot I show them jacking cars and mugging and raping. Is this not propaganda, even though there exists black people that do these things?
There are shows close to this and they usually depict real neighborhoods or time periods so no it's not necessarily propaganda depending on the presentation. It could just be entertainment or perhaps even a documentary.

>And 4. And Dracula X/Rondo of Blood. An the gameboy games. And 64. And CoD. And Portrait. And Order. And...
The church is basically not mentioned in most of these and in none of them is it expressed that you represent the church. You are given a family name for a reason. It's not Church vs. Dracula but Belmont vs. Dracula. A vampire hunter clan versus the lord of vampires. There is an individualistic aspect to the presentation. I would agree if any of the games put you in the shoes of a nameless "Christian missionary" but they don't.

>You're treating Holy as a magic keyword and not really at it's origin and why that matters.
I'm treating it as the games treat it.

>implying it's just run of the mill magic that targets undead.
That implies his corpse was more legitimate than the man that used to inhabit it, not that it's magic. Otherwise Trevor could've just had Sypha make holy water and wouldn't have specifically requested a priest.

Pretty good anime.

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Castlevania netflix is SJW propaganda GARBAGE
"Daily Reminder that Adi Shankar is a huge SJW cunt and so is the lead writer. They're revising Castlevania to fit their agenda"
It's true, and the entirety of season 2 is proof of that
>Issac's a fucking niggerfaggot
>Everytime Carmilla is given screentime every other character instantly goes passive/braindead too show how stronk she is
>Can't go one scene without ranting about how she hates men
>the viking vampire calls Hector a "bigot"
>Dracula can't even keep his men in line
>none of the main characters have any sort of chemistry
This is actual dialogue from Issac from around episode 5 8:15 from Issac to Hector
>Well maybe we should just kiss
>I've never heard you tell a joke before Issac
>And you never will
>Dracula and the diverse ghoul gang whinging and bickering
Isaac's entire character was fucking shit. Most of the shit in Dracula's castle was absolute shit, Isaac was a gary stu and obvious Netflix force in. Carmilla was awful. Who the fuck writes a 15th century woman to say, "manchild" not once but TWICE.

>unique IPs didn't go up

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The state of grace of the priest has no effect on the efficacy of the sacraments he performs

very mediocre, fight scenes are probably the best thing about it, and they are not particulaly good.
characterization is terrible.

That was my first post all thread, seethe or cope more resetera tranny

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I sincerely doubt that based solely on your choice of buzzwords

>replying to yourself
>twice
Please stop.

2 doesn't mention the church in-game. 3 doesn't mention it in-game either. Portrait doesn't mention it. All of these fit your specific criteria. None of these fit your initial question, and you've reworded it into what you think is an impossible task that proves...what exactly? Actually, don't bother answering that. I'm already bored with you.

>There are shows close to this and they usually depict real neighborhoods or time periods so no it's not necessarily propaganda depending on the presentation. It could just be entertainment or perhaps even a documentary.
The documentaries you mention are showing that those people are acting like that for "real reasons", such as the need to survive. The show I'm talking about would only depict them doing the evil acts with no real justification for it whatsoever other than immediate personal gain and fear, and of course with no black person acting with good morals or intentions to counterbalance this out. Would this be propaganda?

>The church is basically not mentioned in most of these and in none of them is it expressed that you represent the church.
3 does. Portrait has Charlotte and Jonathan being members of the Church as well. Bloodlines maaay do this, but I don't remember. Even if you choose to ignore this, there is strong implications that the Belmonts generally work with the Church closely, again the only "exception" to this being Lament. Even Curse of Darkness, Leon was a fucking crusader. I really don't know what else to tell you if you still refuse to believe that the Belmonts somehow would not be devout Catholics or Christians considering all of the writing on the wall.

>I'm treating it as the games treat it.
Mechanical has little relevance when we're talking about a narrative medium.

>That implies his corpse[...]
No, no it does not.

>The state of grace of the priest has no effect[...]
Contradicted directly by the show itself.

All the faggot shills on Yea Forums that eat castlevania netflix up are west cuck faggots with zero taste
If retards like these think this netflix garbage is passable or even good, then all of their other opinions are invalid

>Portrait doesn't mention it.
what

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>contradicted directly by the show itself
No it isnt

not even if you have only watched naruto.

The word "Church". I might actually be wrong on that, but I frankly don't care since you're boring me still. Here's your last (You).

Trevor: "You're the real thing. If you weren't, this wouldn't work".
The state of grace of the priest, according to Trevor, should directly have an effect on the efficacy of the sacraments he performs. Directly contradicted. Actually watch the show. Or don't, I don't actually recommend it.

>No, no it does not.
How come it implies your argument but doesn't imply mine and "no" is a sufficient rebuttal? There's a distinct lack of rebuttal for why the magician Sypha didn't just make holy water if it were magic. Did she not know the spell? Is there something barring her from making holy water? Is a priest a necessary factor and there's absolutely no distinction between "holy" and "undead-targeting magic" that isn't semantics?

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>How come it implies your argument but doesn't imply mine and "no" is a sufficient rebuttal?
Second portion. That's why.

>Would this be propaganda?
Depending on the presentation, not at all, although plenty of normalfags and the media would probably lose their shit and claim it was. The truth of the matter is it's mostly brainlets who get offended by works of high fantasy fiction.

>Even if you choose to ignore this, there is strong implications that the Belmonts generally work with the Church closely, again the only "exception" to this being Lament.
I'm not ignoring anything, it's just disingenuous to say that the player is made to feel like they represent the church in most of these games.

You’re a retard. State of grace =\= validly ordained.

The state of grace of the priest supports what I said, though. If a faithful and just priest is a necessary component of the sacrament, then God's power is being invoked and it's not magic.

This. It wasn't even passable. It was a hot mess of trying to make Castlevania super serious and political but they forgot to make the characters enjoyable to watch and basically just slapped Castlevania names on characters for the shits and giggles.
Which is especially bad in Issac and Hectors case because neither of them even have a passing resemblance to their original characters outside of homosexuality for Issac and Silver hair for Hector.

Yeah, imagine castlevania trying to be super serious...
That'd be silly !

Trevor's impression of Duke Nukem is the only good thing to come out of this trash.

H-hayai

I fucking hate how this show can't be discussed on Yea Forums cause of christ cucks. How they fuck did you people even get here anyway? Yea Forums was never religiously friendly ever.

They're larping

>Depending on the presentation, not at all
That's still false. It's clearly propaganda and you know it to be because I'm intentionally creating it as such. Again, showcasing only bad examples of a group of people is, per definition, propaganda. I'm attempting to showcase to you an idea with no counter-balances of what I believe (for the sake of this argument) a group acts like. Because storytelling is largely about passing ideas between people, if I pass only this idea, then act like it's normal, then yes, that fits propaganda definitions.

>it's just disingenuous to say that the player is made to feel like they represent the church in most of these games.
Except for the most part, they do, and even in the games they don't, the religious weapons and iconography would lead a rational person to believe that they are closely tied together.

Huh. I learned something about the Church. Either way, that doesn't matter, considering the show directly states that God has left the priest, and that he nor none of his men are able to produce working holy weapons, instead resorting to knives. There's also the matter of Trevor's quote up here:

Ah yes, I too remember when 8-10 vampires in Castlevania from all around the world gathered together to discuss how to divide up their armies as to assault the land.
Viking rape vampires are most definitely the epitome of seriousness, how could I forget.

Yes, I agree, it was pretty camp and not that serious, while keeping some dramatic gravitas, which makes it consistent with the tone of the games :^)

>being this mad
Have you considered accepting Christ?

I watched two episodes and I couldn't really get into it. There's something with the animation that bothers me, as if they were trying too hard on the anime shit without being anime. Besides that, the dialogue seems also pretty amateurish stuff.

how new r u

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Season 2's writing made me want to vomit.

Melodramatic* There was no drama in Netflixvania. It would need better writing for that.

What the fuck is this, Dragon Ball Super?

>roaming church thugs
Like the inquisition IRL or catholic church for more than half of the history?

So, again, like in the games
Perfect adaptation then :^)

I dunno, man. If it was a perfect adaption, people wouldn't be complaining now would they?

Bruh you’re taking the words of a fucking literal demon telling a man that God has abandoned him as truth when that’s literally what a demon trying to convince a man not to repent would say.

Sure wouldn't have one guy making it his mission to establish himself as the objective opinion of the thing, anyways.

The dead can't repent, and unholy vampires can't make unholy creatures repent sins of the body's former soul.

The same demon brings up that if it were a house of God he wouldn't even be able to enter, though. It's one of those "why would he lie?" deals since the priest is five seconds away from death no matter what, being that they're on earth to kill all humans.

Yeah you're right, most shows have a perfect consensus on how good they are, especially on Yea Forums

I swear to god all other vampire characters were fucking pointless.

You mean like you just tried to do without (You)ing anyone in the thread, coward?

Chapel had no tabernacle present. Was not a house of god.

What

See, I won't pretend for a second that the castlevania series have something cohesive, or that the story and characters are in any way well written or engaging, or whatever. But at least they're fun games. This show is unremarkable at very best. There's no fun, there's no good writing, the fights are like I'm watching naruto again. They should have tried something that without being overly faithful to the series, was decently written. A good experience rather than just appeal to the dumb fucks that just got into the series this decade

>why make a man continue to reject god right before his death?
Bruh come the fuck on

>implying my opinion is the wrong one.
I can't help it if the show is terrible and you like a terrible show.

If a show was great, it would have less people pointing out it's flaws, right?

Priest directly calls it a "house of god" right before the demon says "nah". No matter how corrupt the priest is, he should at least be an authority on whether or not the building can meet the requirements, shouldn't he?

Edgy fedora pajeet shit

>First season
Compact and short. Only downside being it was essentially a prologue to get the party together before the main quest.

>Second season
Why does this even exist? Seriously, writers watched too much Game of Thrones and you have vampires standing around talking. Real action could've basically been resolved in two episodes. Which it does.

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Bruh he had a fucking demon telling him his worship of God was a staunch rejection of Him by committing atrocities with the Church and righteousness as a shield from retribution. The demon was picking brain out of his teeth and he still thought he was a right and pious man of the cloth.

Most objectively correct people wouldn't be hanging around threads of things they hate at 4 AM, they'd be asleep

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>you have vampires standing around talking
Half of them, the other half don't even have a voice

I think the problem was S2 had too many episodes and not enough script while S1 felt just right in terms of pacing.

4am is when I do my best thinking.

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I cant help but laugh at carmillas switch from lol ima gonna win smugness to"holy shit,did just lose?" After the castle get dragged from the battle

I'm going back to my justice league shit, much better than this nonsense

>even wanting to discuss this abortion of a show
Why do you even want that? After all it's not a real show made by competent writers, it's a fanfic made by a retarded pajeet SJW to push his agenda. Just laugh at it and move on.

Watching Trevor go ham with the Vampire Killer made the whole season worth it, in my opinion

fuckthefuckshitspookycastlefuck

Only the movies suck. They actually try when it comes to shows... most of the time.

you can shit on voltron all you want but castlevania is fucking great, you shitters will hate anything on principle

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I finished the first season and it pissed me off that dracula got dabbed on like that.

Does he come back in s2?

Yes. For a Super Saiyan fight with his son.

I like all their cartoons,even voltron and she ra

she-ra needs to take off the nerf helmets though, treats its audience like tards

I liked the fight. It's two OP vampires going at it each at full power. Basically never happened anywhere else in the show.

I chalk up shitty movies due to streaming stigma. They had a movie whin reward recently and hollywood reee'd

tO mUSh taLk i liKe iT wEn tEy duN a FitE

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pacing is just non-existent. not to mention all the vampire talky-talky bits could've been condensed to like ten minutes.

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first season was pretty boring, but s2 was good, the action was well done

wZ guD whEn hE hiT dEr BITEMANz wiV Wip

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It had two good waifus

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>Implying it wasen't all part of god's plan because he knew it would backfire on the vampires

first season had some kino moments

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God genuinely works in stupid and contradictory ways, could very well have been he gave it a pass because it burned a bunch of minor guys and fucked over the big guys

11/10 desu

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absolutely shit like everything netflix related

Boring and needs better animation. You can count the well animated scenes on one hand

Made to be BLACKED desu

You could have at least tried that in a thread where it made sense

>This cartoon for little girls does not meet my rigorous intellectual standards

what will it be based on? castlevania 1 could get pretty boring since Trevor was a way more interesting protagonist

>mfw when "I'm killing my boy"

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They left on a teaser for Curse of Darkness' plot, and that game does feature Trevor

Sypha was way too fucking strong in the final fight in S2. Like where were all those super powered spells during S1? because i don't remember her having anywhere near that much firepower back then.

Why do you think they spent half the season in that library?

Give us Simon

Having a Simon season could be fun. I can’t help but picture him as a song le-minded slayer of evil. He’d be a big shift from Trevor’s flippant-ness.

ugly character design

i dunno
Trevor is more interesting because of this outcast status
Simon is kind of a Gary Stuo, it's fun to pretend that you are Simon, but I don't think it will translate well in anime form
I still think it's a miracle that he managed to make a good series from the plot of a nes game

>it's another christfags are mad thread
>only respond with le hat tip maymay
>anal bungled over everything ever
Never change you just LOOK to be offended just like sjws.

>le-minded slayer of evil
now that I think about it it could be fun to have an inflessible lawful-stupid protagonist

>song le-minded
helpim ahving astroke

I overall think it's ok, but S2 was kinda disappointing. I remember reading it was basically improvised after S1's success and it shows

Liked it well enough to buy this even though it's only the first 4 episodes.

Shame about the portrayal of the Church and Trevor doing literally nothing in the fight against Dracula.

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God I fucking loved viking vampire Tommy Wiseau

Technically (after Curse of Darkness) Adventure and Belmont's Revenge are next in the timeline. Which would suck because Trevor jobs all over again to Isaac in CoD. Belmont's Revenge would be good to see.

Should'a had Grant. Fuck those hacks for not adding him.

Pretty gay
Maybe one of the worst dracula/vampire vs christian stories out there. One of the worst adaptations by far.

Maybe he'll replace Alucard in the next season.

Given what happened the last time we saw him, maybe it's for the best

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It's a good thing we won't have to care about Castlevania anymore soon since Bloodstained is coming to replace it.

Its okay, but I didn't finish it, I dropped it after a few episodes of season 2 because while the episodes focused entirely on Dracula's literal who minions could be funny at times, they still felt like boring filler.
I think it was trying to be way too story-driven for a Castlevania show. One of my friends who watched it without any Castlevania experience had decided to play SotN afterwards, and while enjoying the game, he was disappointed at how the story was nearly nonexistent.

Why does she trigger beta males so much?

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I unironically wouldn't mind him showing up as a weird mummified pirate monster in the show.

Because they don't want to admit that they want to get chained up by her

There's probably some truth to that actually. I think we've seen the death of the MetroidVania games. There's a reason that the Collection was all the old school platforming Vania games. This anime was centered around CV3, the Smash representation was 90% Classic era things (aside from the Alucard AT.) KONAMI are leaning heavily on the original style of Castlevania recently. Stands to reason that they pushing the MetroidVania style of games to the side with Bloodstained coming out.

ClassicVania is likely here to stay for the foreseeable future and as a NES kid, I couldn't be happier.

Boring, too much "world building" and little to none watchable fights. You get the golem, the castle, and I think that is.

Season 2 was mostly dead air/conversations going in circles/exposition over development like all goddamn modern tv shows.

Unironically because she was poised to be forge man’s dommy mommy. Then she jumps him and pummels him until he cries. Ruining their ship.

But that might be her own way of showing affection, she could be into S&M. Vampires are usually crazy and degenerate.

Except for Godbrand. He was pure.

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>And without the retarded power creep every anime has for the protag.
Try watching something other than battle shounen.

Hector is going to murder the shit out of her and it's going to be glorious.

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I dunno, user. The only thing she hates more than humans and men would be human men. She’s upfront about it. I’m surprised that a little banter and a smile from Hector was enough for some viewers to think they would be a thing.

>No Skull Knight boss
>No Skeleton Warrior army raise hell in any village
>No Knights that throw axes
>No flying severed gorgon(Medusa) heads peering around the corners trying to find the protagonists
>No doppelganger(saving for the SOTN adaptation I guess)
>No mummies
>No Death the grim reaper
>Barely any universal studios/classic horror movie references

Are you SURE this is Castlevania? Doesn't seem as ridiculous enough as the source material.

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cringe

It was pretty good though I wasn't a fan of how much Trevor got side-lined at the end of season 2 in favour of Alucard. Also Dracula's character is fucked. In the games Dracula hates humanity so much he curses the entire land in Castlevania 3, which persists into CoD, and still wants humanity dead every single time he revives. In the show Dracula fucking gives up, and let's himself be killed due to remembering his "humanity" and not wanting to hurt his son.
This version of Dracula is finished, if they bring him back it'll be a cop out because it'll make 0 sense. Especially if we make it to SOTN.

I would portray Simon like Beowulf was presented in the Grendel novel. He was retard strong and more ominous than the monsters.

SPIRIT SOUL BLA BLA MAKE UP YOUR GODDAMN MIND YOU ROSE-TINTED FAGGOT

>GOD BAD CHURCH BAD DRACULA GOOD FOR SAVING BLACK SLAVE FROM WHITE MAN

>she will never look at you like this after sex

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It's good because it has realistic dialogue and characters in a time where most shows try to copy Shakespear while ending up with YIIK-tier characters and story
It's also good because it appeals to my fetish

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Post Syphas

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Fuck off

So how curvy is Sypha under the robes?

Isn't it weird that the christ-fag claims he's not even christian yet goes out of his way to make up his own headcanon about the show and literally strawmens everyone?

...

Sypha isn't real

>They made Sypha a female
Not watching their SJW garbage. Thanks for the warning.

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Am I really the only one on Yea Forums who unironically didn't like it? I just felt the interesting setting and character designs couldn't salvage the awful writing.

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Not hourglass-heavy, but nothing to scoff about either.

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Go back to your anime, Contrarian-kun~

Why are you implying I think anime has good writing?

None of the official adaptations ever have those things. The Belmont Legacy comic was the same. So was the Curse of Darkness manga. For some reason, people are scared of adapting what Castlevania really is.

get better writers voice actors and animators and then we can talk until then the only good western shit is catscratch

I'm always liked Castlevania but it just wasn't interesting, the sound quality absolutely sucked and the plot relied too much on the church being jackasses rather than anything dracula did

A lot more talking and a lot less fighting than I would have expected for a Castlevania series.

>FOR SAVING BLACK SLAVE FROM WHITE MAN
That never happened

I imagine they’ll leave Dracula out of Season 3. It will be Hector’s war against Carmilla and Isaac. Maybe a Season 4 would purely be focused on Dracula prior to the events of Season 1. They could show his turning into a Vampire. What his grudge against humanity was prior to meeting Lisa. How he came to possess Castlevania and powers beyond a normal Vampire (hoping they lean more towards the Lords of Shadow DLC explanation rather than Lament of Innocence.) They could explain that in becoming the Prince of Darkness, he’s forever fated to return every century (It could be known as Dracula’s Curse in a nod to the games.) Gives people a few seasons to forget the closure he got in Season 2.

Why not watch the Hellsing OVA's for vampire-infused action? The Dracula is literally an improved version of season 2's Dracula but not with the moping around like a crybaby

Imagine being upset that people dont like the church.
Get over yourselves, its not even fedoratipping to think that the church is bad. Seperate your idealogy from some shitty organisation who the only reason you think actually represents your beliefs is because they have shitloads of money to spread propoganda saying so.

I saw the first episode and there was absolutely nothing redeemable about it for me and I tossed it right into the garbage right there and thene. Not a single sweeping arpeggio orchestral track in the first episode, awful dialogue, the artstyle doesn't have that regal baroque artstyle, I don't think whoever made it has seen a single Hammer film.

It's Castlevania in name alone. It's fan fic, trash, garbage.

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Would you drink her beer?

I liked it
I am also not one of these brainlets who failed to read the description of the series and am under no illusion that this was supposed to be the game story 1:1

most people dislike because of how shit it is not because it's a poorly adapted cartoon

The church plotpoint of lament was solved during 3 and never came back to the rest of the series

>let me kiss you

The show's alright. Has a bit of that Helsing -era crappy monster action movie vibe, but enough good stuff to redeem itself.

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>2 doesn't mention the church in-game
No you literaly just visit churches as the ONLY way to heal in the game
Cities whitout churches are destroyed while the ones with churches are holding up

Stolen direcly out of lords of shadow

That's wrong

>But this is a cartoon show made for entertainment. Not propaganda.
>people actually believe this
Not you but there are faggots who do

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nah i'm right it's a shitty cartoon from the animation to the voice acting

ok so what is the propaganda in Castlevania? That men turns depressed when the love of their life is killed?

Point me to some proof of this being propaganda

>HAHA THERE'S NO PROOF THAT MEANS THEY CONCEALED IT WELL.

Another ginger design was changed to a generic nigger

How does that make it propaganda?

>anime

Why was Carmilla such a cunt to that guy?

It is a plot to erase redheadd from media
Its happening everywhere

I was browsing through the thread and saw that, I was commenting on the idea of "wow it's for entertainment, how can there be a political/ideological message within it", not the veracity of whether or not the show has an anti-religion slant.

>Point me to some proof of this being propaganda
That would depend on what you would consider proof. If I were to say, go to the creators twitter accounts and pull up statements such as "FUCK CHRISTIANITY" or some other such statement, would that be indicative enough of someone putting their ideological convictions into the show?
I'd assume not, and that you would require an entire framework of interconnected reasons as to why this should/n't be considered propaganda, which I cannot be fucked to do.

How does that make it propaganda?

Also, Godbrand is a redhead.

>anyone who dislikes this cartoon is an anime loving contrarian
fucking yikes

>which I cannot be fucked to do.

So you're content with just talking out your ass with no evidence or even any good clues. How surprising.

And he gets killed by the nigger

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So how does Dante's hair changing from white to black fit into your worldview?

Refer to the first part of this comment I am not out to prove whether there is or is not propaganda in this particular show, I'm criticizing the statement as seen previously.

thats the least of that game problems
>360 no scope abortion

Oh come on, surely there is some great conspiracy behind the colour change. There's no way it's somehow not anti-you.

well, DmC was made by Ninja Theory because Capcom wanted to export their productions to the West. His hair changing can clearly be attributed to this.

Not realy

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she cute, but she a thot

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SJWs ruined what could've been an amazing show

You come to every fucking castlevania anime thread, fuck off christfag

The show is actually based on Castlevania 3?

Highwaymen is pretty gud, user.

>anime

I liked it but I'm not a Castlevania fan so for all I know it was a massive butchering of the source material.

Honestly my biggest problem with it was the 2nd season spent half the time on the politics of Dracula's army, most of which had nothing to do with the end result of the trio killing Dracula. Hopefully the third season will make use of those characters as a part of the actual main plot.

She is a strong independent vampire