343 insider here, got some general info about the direction and gameplay style in Infinite.
Here is the 343 E3 presentation summarized basically.
>Sprint is in
>Ground pound and Spartan charge are out
>Clamber is in, but it's used more sparingly in map design
>Slide is in
>Hover is out
>E3 demo takes place on the Halo Ring, as chief rescuing a squad of marines from a forerunner tower in the forest (think halo ce level 2)
>Shows off open levels. NOT open world, just really big maps which are revisited and used in many ways/changed
>Shows off new graphics, Flora&fauna
>Encounters CORTANA'S COVENANT
>Shows off new AI, brutes are emphasized as returning, callbacks to H3
>Promethean Knight is used as a boss encounter, very powerful moreso than H5
>Shows off new weapons, brute explosive sniper, Forerunner beamsplitter
>A mysterious robotic character communicates to chief in his radio
>Demo ends when they stumble onto village of farming humans and hobbits, marines crack joke, pelican touches down in distance
>2 multiplayer maps are shown
>One of them is a Valhalla remake, revealed to be part of a large "forge world" open map, that shares area with the campaign map we saw
>Other map is a small snow-themed map underneath a big glacier, ice caves forerunner tunnels etc. (Shows off snow deformation)
>MP info ends there but they promise "huge new modes"that will let you play Halo in ways you never have before , and modes you have enjoyed for years already
>Teaser with elites and hunters approaching red/blue mp spartans, Spartans act shocked
>Release slated for late 2020. Cross-gen, made for Xbone but runs enhanced on new gen
343 insider here, got some general info about the direction and gameplay style in Infinite
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>sprint is in
dabbing on bungietards
I would believe you if you didn't say
>Encounters CORTANA'S COVENANT
>Shows off new AI, brutes are emphasized as returning, callbacks to H3
>Shows off new weapons, brute explosive sniper, Forerunner beamsplitter
>Demo ends when they stumble onto village of farming humans and hobbits, marines crack joke, pelican touches down in distance
You're are the only one that came close to making a realistic leak that doesn't sound like it came straight from your ass and completely contradicts what 343 said about it.
>Demo ends when they stumble onto village of farming humans and hobbits,
Not Lord of the rings Hobbits, it's homo florsiensis which is an extinct Hominid / "cousin" species of humanity that went extinct 50,000 yrs ago. Called Hobbit because they're little humans that are 3ft tall.
They're the grunt equivalent for the new enemy faction, ancient humanity, which is comprised of many species of humans/hominids. At first you encounter them on the Halo Ring living a simple lifestyle, but then you awaken their leader "The Lord of admirals" deep within the ring and they are forcefully turned into a fighting army using combat skins/power armor that controls them (this is similar to the Didact in H4, but with a twist)
The brute equivalent is neanderthals, and there's a sort of not-quite-hunter tier but still powerful Gigantopithecus enemy
That's why I don't believe you.
E3 is coming soon, youll see.
>hobbits
Riiiight, I can see the main enemies as followed
>The Covenant controlled by Sali Nyon just like how Jul Mdama took Merg Vol's place
>The Flood
>The Forerunner Prometheans controlled by Cortana
>>Sprint is in
Dropped
LET ME DIE
Hobbits or sprint.
Which is worse bros?
>Halo in 2019
>sprint
>clamber
They never learn do they... Don't see point of taking ground pound out, it was the one thing that didn't alter/break gameplay.
Can you Atleast fly a fucking pelican in this game? That’s literally all I’m asking for
>sprint is in
they said they would focus more on classic gameplay
>clamber is in, but used more sparingly in map design
so clamber is useless. so that might be something 343 would do.
if its anything but classic movement its garbage
Nobody cares. We only want MCC on PC.
Any other Halo stuff happening?
MCC flight tests are most likely to begin shortly after E3, got nothing else for now.
>MCC flight test
But video games aren't plane yaes ?
>think halo ce level 2
This is where your LARP went wrong
>Promethean
DROPPED
All these halo infinite leaks have sounded like bullshit but this one seems pretty possible except that I can't see sprint and sliding working, those need to get out.
Cringe
>The Covenant controlled by Sali Nyon just like how Jul Mdama took Merg Vol's place
Literally who?
This is genuinely the most retarded fucking shit I've ever read in my life, but since 343's making this it's probably 100% true
Probably bullshit but just in case
>Takes place on a Halo ring
Good
>Open areas but not open world
Good
>"CORTANA'S COVENANT"
Fuck, didn't 343 learn we didn't want this shit after the dumpster fire of Halo 5's story?
The new halo ring is full of ancient species from earth that were thought to be extinct.
Hobbits and ancient humans will look VERY weird and out of place when you first see it, in fact it's going to be played as a humorous moment during the E3 demo (marines see them and go "wtf are those?? Am I crazy or does he look like sarge?") But you get used to it and they become a big threat quickly
>Sprint is in
>Encounters CORTANA'S COVENANT
>hobbits
OH NO NO NO
You give way too much information to be an insider. if you're right tho good job.
Fuck I hope you're genuine, this could be either great or a massive disappointment.
Any news on Flood? We're on a Halo so I wanted at least 1-2 levels with them
Answer me this
Can we finally spawn AI in forge mode?
Wow, this sounds even dumber than Halo 4/5, which in itself is quite an accomplishment.
Bravo 343!
This is so dumb that I completely believe 343 came up with it.
Been a while since I had a good laugh, thanks bud.
I'm friends with a few employees, and even they don't release information. There are people that have been outsourced by 343i, but they're possibly facing legal troubles after a few did spill the news.
Bitch they've made a lot of good lore for this game which bungie had added none, it's closer to mass effect now
this is complete bullshit
What news was this
Guy that weakened Jul's Covenant prior to Halo 5 in a comic book series, a shitty comic book series, he gets mentioned in Halo 5 and in Warzone, you still see Covenant fighting Prometheans.
There's a thread on /trash/ where you can post your OC all you want bud.
Ok, but when is MCC coming out on PC?
>tfw no elite bf
A few of them were talking about MCC on PC since August. As for Infinite related content, I was told very little.
Okay.
I can't even begin to tell you how shitty this would be if it was true.
>sprint
>clamber
>slide
This would mean 343 has learned nothing and they think we only care about the art style
>CORTANA'S COVENANT
That is so god damn stupid, why not just ignore 4 and 5 and make a new story following halo 3? It's what we want anyways, they can even make a joke about having a very bad nightmare.
>Promethean Knights
ew
>HOBBITS
This is bullshit but I believe it
Honestly if the other dumb bullshit was omitted I'd be very happy about this information if it was true.
>>E3 demo takes place on the Halo Ring, as chief rescuing a squad of marines from a forerunner tower in the forest (think halo ce level 2)
>>Shows off open levels. NOT open world, just really big maps which are revisited and used in many ways/changed
Hey that sounds pretty go-
>>Encounters CORTANA'S COVENANT
>fighting an army of literal human midgets in Halo
what the fuck am I reading...
Hey, you probably won't respond to this but do you actually know how much of a loser is frank o connor for him to actually use resetera?
>>Demo ends when they stumble onto village of farming humans and hobbits
>>hobbits
I see you read the books halopedia.org
Uh, so the marine jokingly calls them a hobbit or OP's bullshitting on us.
I just know a number of people affiliated with the company that either appreciate or jerk off to elites. I don't know Frankie, nor do care enough to spam my porn his way.
>343 insider here, got some general info about the direction and gameplay style in Infinite
You fucking better, because this Halo drought is unacceptable if you're trying to release a relevant product.
Uh, ok, so you unironically jerk off to elites, good to know they endorse that
>I just know a number of people affiliated with the company that either appreciate or jerk off to elites.
BASED
Humanity according to the lore has no cousin because they were created by precursors. If anything, their 'brother' species would be the forerunners. Humanoid enemies would only ever be slightly possible if they explained them as being yet another species which the precursors created alongside Humans
While fighting primitive human species would be cool, it's just not realistic in terms of halo.
>Sprint is in
>This is a noteworthy feature in 2019
I want to die, video games are dead
>Uh, ok, so you unironically jerk off to elites,
Reread what I typed.
Also, what kind of degenerate would not grow some form of attraction towards them?
No offense, but if you somehow thought 343 were going to remove sprint, thrusters, slide, hover, clamber, and smart scope, then you're an idiot. After making so many changes to the gameplay, do you honestly believe that they would just throw all that out just to please some crying ass 3babies. This is why they put MCC on PC, to contain the 3babies who never moved on, they were never going to drop the gameplay changes fully and you're retarded if you thought they were. Now the rest of that shit like, the removal of hover, Cortana's Covenant, Brutes, and Ancient Humans, I know is full of shit.
So fucking garbage, but I believe it.
>implying classic movement with thrusters wouldn't be goat
Keeping thrusters or hover is just useless, its not enough for 5tards to onlt keep those and it just muddies the gameplay for classic fans.
>Based retarded thinks that he knows anything about Halo Lore.
Hope that 343 don't forget about HW 2 and what is happening in the Ark
I mean I doubt they will, but they changed the art style back after years of working with the nuHalo art.
>Sprint is in
It's going to be fun watching 343i dodging the questions about why they didn't remove sprint.
Not even a pic related? Come on, dude. Weak bait.
cringe and unbased
The art was changed because Kenneth Scott finally fucked off, they've been wanting to change the art style for a while.
based
Gonna be more entertaining than the game itself
>Sprint/abilities in campaign and customs/party modes
BASED
>Sprint/abilities in Matchmaking
UNBASED
You can't possibly prove me wrong
And I'm extremely thankful for that. I can guarantee Halo will get some more popularity again 100% based on that decision. Whoever thought it was a good idea to change an appealing and recognizable arty style to the mess that was 4/5 is a complete retard.
>why not just ignore 4 and 5 and make a new story following halo 3?
No self respected retard would throw out the opportunity of idiots buying H4 or H5 to "keep up with the history", the more that we can hope for is that they summarize the history so much that they could start from 0
>sprint is in
Thanks for confirming it’s shit in your first line.
>CORTANA'S COVENANT
i can.
>sprint forced AI to be more accurate and punish you getting in close, enemies rarely engage you but shoot from cover instead, game turns into first person GOW.
Also
>splitting the gameplay for MP and campaign up
Terrible idea.
Do you also think classic playlists would even have a chance to be good?
Slippery slope. I've played multiple custom games without Sprint and Thrusters are always next to go.
It's just a worse strafe that doesn't let you shoot and player no longer have to commit to jumps. Over time it starts to feel like it's always getting you killed.
Clamber was actually more easily salvaged by increasing jump height, whereas Thrusters need a lot more changes.
>Cover shooting in Halo is good
>Defends Sprint
Checks right out. Get the fuck away from Halo.
>I just know a number of people affiliated with the company that either appreciate or jerk off to elites.
Explain
>As for Infinite related content, I was told very little.
Spill it!
I don't know what the fuck Kenneth Scott's thought patterns were but I remember Sparth wanted to make Halo look like Halo artistically in Halo 4, this was clear for 343 entirely with Halo 2A but Kenneth was a piece of shit.
Actually, sprint didn't cause that, the garbage squad mechanics did.
>As for Infinite related content, I was told very little
Don't leave us hanging.
Some of them have the hots for elites. Others just appreciate the anatomy non-sexually.
The music will include somber tunes akin to ODST. I don't know if it's to the extent of using the sax, though.
>Demo ends when they stumble onto village of farming humans and hobbits
>Clamber is in
>Slide is in
Fucking dropped. These do not fit in fucking Halo, Halo does not need these.
>huge new modes"that will let you play Halo in ways you never have before
Sounds like more shit that Halo doesn't fucking need, why do they keep trying to reinvent the fucking wheel? Just make fucking Halo 3 again, that's literally all the game needs to be. Pepper in y our more modern QOL features and more content, but the core gameplay blueprint they KNOw fans want has been there for 12 years now.
And where's the fucking splitscreen?
Damn, so this is the power of elite bussy.
>Demo ends when they stumble onto village of farming humans and hobbits, marines crack joke, pelican touches down in distance
>village of farming humans and hobbits
>hobbits
It never needed any lore, it's a shooter.
Not sure I see the logic there
>actual infinite info
>good music incoming
>The music will include somber tunes akin to ODST.
Now we're talkin
>bungie added no lore
are you vengeful vadam
Im actually ok with most of this
Glad the art style and music are getting fixed.
>are you vengeful vadam
No, I'm someone else. You can just reverse search these images.
>Promethean
Just fucking get rid of them, they suck, they're boring, they're ugly, they're impersonal.
>CORTANA'S COVENANT
...
>You can just reverse search these images.
I'd rather not unless it's Elite pussy
>Promethean
Who at 343 has such a raging hard on for these shitty Michael Bay Transformer Bionicles? Does anyone actually like fighting them?
>tfw long time Halo fan
>the Eric Nylund books (Fall of Reach, First Strike, Ghosts of Onyx) are the stuff of legend. Not coincidentally, they're what the new Halo games are pulling characters and story beats from
>Halo: Reach which was, if I remember correctly, the first piece of canon media to really contradict with The Fall of Reach and Halo CE
>see the canon be destroyed and raped into a ditch by 343i
>Greg Bear's The Forerunner trilogy set up all that great lore then 343 pissed it away
>Karen Traviss completely butchered her trilogy. Makes sense why Halo 4's and 5's story is so bad considering the Traviss books lead into 4 and 5. She has super genius Dr Halsey, the Mother of the S-II program, think it would be a great idea to get into an argument with, and draw a gun on a S-III with the intent to threaten and/or possibly actually shoot the S-III.
>Spartan Ops as a whole was bad, no one wanted Spartan IVs
>The Librarian cutscene itself is a good example. Rather then just gradually introducing that information, it dumps it on the player and the explanation they give for what a Geas is is so poor it's no wonder people wrongly think MC is a chosen one
>343i have been trying to replace Master Chief since Halo 4. Palmer was the first candidate and she failed, Locke was the second attempt and failed. Fireteam Osiris screamed "diversity team with an old face plastered on to force people to like them"
>343 boss Bonnie Ross can't go two seconds without screeching about wanting strong women in STEM
>Frank O Connor is literally a member of Resetera and regularly posts tons of self-hating anti-white garbage. Frankie also confirms he wrote most of the story and script for Halo: Reach.
>tfw can at least take pleasure in the fact that no matter where the series goes it can't be as bad as GOT
Infinite is going to be full of SJW bullshit
The return of sprint is literally the only thing I dislike here. If this isn't bullshit, then good on 343.
Theyre 343s legacy enemies, theyre never going to get rid of them until they make them fun, leaving them out would them be admitting they made a mistake which they will never do.
>Elite porn is either gay bara shit or men fucking female aliens
It's not fucking fair.
>Infinite is going to be full of SJW bullshit
>doesn't hire trannies
>permantly ban trannies on their website
No, they're not, stop trying to pit Bungie's fall from grace on 343.
>Cortana's covenant
yeah like anyone would worship while she wants to wipe everything from existence unless it's the prometheans
Are you being serious? I mean if they wanted to replace chief then they did a terrible job since everyone hates palmer and locke, everyone still loves chief.
This, plus they were made to fight the Flood, I want to see them fight the Flood, they and the Flood make things interesting. I thought I wanted an all Covenant Halo game and then I played Reach, from there I was already wishing the Flood were back.
He lied about the Halo 4 DLC debacle. He promised a full, detail explanation on what happened with MCC that took him over three years to give. He told us that the story for Spartan Ops was planned long long in advance but then it was revealed that the big conclusion of Requiem being hurled into the sun was something he thought of on the spot then and there. He told us during the backlash from Black Team's deaths in Halo:Escalation that this wasn't something done on a whim or lightly but had been planned as part of the story for a long time. The Halo Escalation Volume 1 commentary from Brian Reed and others says completely otherwise. When Halo 5 was still very much hush hush and we only had a small bit of information Michael Colter said that Locke is the primary protagonist of the game and will have the most screen time. Someone then stated on NeoGaf that it would be similar to MGS2 which the new guy Raiden(Locke) taking up the majority of the game. Frankie came in and said that that was outright false. Of course it was fucking true as we know. When people got up in arms about ADS in Halo 5 when it was first revealed he lied about it and said it wouldn't increase your bullet's accuracy to calm everyone down. Then the game out and look at that it does increase your accuracy. Of course thats not even the beginning of the lies with Halo 5. There are many more Frankie lies I'm sure I'm forgetting. Remember how Hunt the Truth was supposed to connect with Halo 5? I do.
Nah, Halo games even during the 343 area, are one of the mosty conservative in terms of SJW shit all things considered.
That's why I know it's fake, they already tried the Covenant are allies with Prometheans thing in Halo 4 and it didn't work. I like them as enemies of each other, that's why the Covenant will just be under the control of Sali Nyon.
Cortana convinced them that shes actually a forerunner goddess and will bring them closer to the great journey, there now it works.
Its not like theyre thinking of a story related reasons, they just need the covenant to be enemies or the game would be shit.
No one is talking about how Frankie is a lier, we knew this since Halo 2, I was just telling that guy or you that don't expect Halo Infinite to be an SJW game.
Good thing they're sticking with Chief now.
>tried to replace Chief with Palmer and Locke
>both attempts fell flat on their faces and failed miserably
>marketing for Infinite so far has basically been "Don't worry, you don't have to play as that nigger anymore"
>343 had the perfect chance to make up whatever the fuck they wanted to
>chose to retcon/rehash ideas from Bungie instead
is the video game industry as creatively bankrupt as hollywood nowadays?
Then why are the Covenant still fighting Prometheans even with Grunt Goblins in Halo 5 Warzone, it may be a simulation but it's based on real Halo universe events? There will not be a Cortana's Covenant, the Covenant will just have a new leader.
This. I just want fem elites, man. Why is it so rare?
Let me try explaining
>Marathon 1
Objective: Survive
>Marathon 2
Objective: Strike Back
>Marathon Infinity:
Objective: rewrite the fucking space time continuum several times over to fix it and solve all the dumb shit you caused
>Halo 1
Objective: There's aliens attacking you, and there's a huge alien planet you both have discovered. You fight on it.
>Halo 2
Objective: The covenant found Earth. So did the Flood.
Arbiter Objective: Keep shit together as your world falls apart.
>Halo 3
Objective: Save Cortana, stop the flood
>Halo ODST
Objective: Uncover what happened to your crew, and survive.
>Halo Reach
Objective: Survive
Notice a trend here: The games never got very deep. Any time they did get anything resembling depth it was really just something shallow to add onto the shallow main story. Bungie writes stories, they don't write epics or universes. That's why they hired other writers to do it, and that's why they also had to retcon said writers because Halo's universe is fucking ridiculous. The only time it got deep was when it got retarded (M:I)
The dumb thing is that 343 got ahold of the franchise, decided they wanted to retcon huge amounts of the lore to introduce a third enemy faction and a new story arc, AND THEN decided they didn't have to plan this shit out.
Half the reason 5 is bad is because the entire writing team from 4 left and 5 was given to the Spartan Ops team. And now THOSE guys are gone!
>4
Be an emotional tampon for cortana and fight some bionicles
kek
>Marathon Infinity
>Not complex
Sounds like a good game to me.
I think 343 is shit and all but some of the crap you anons are whining about is dumb
Aside from the travis books the 343 novels have all been great, m8. Broken Circle and Last Light in particular are ghosts of onyx tier
there's also zero evidence either palmer or locke were meant to replace chief. That being said, chief SHOULD be retired, his story should have ended in Halo ; we can't just have MC saving the galaxy over and over again;
Not to defend 5's plot, since 5's campaign and story was dogshit, or to defend locke, since he's also shit, but all the people who whined about WHERE'S MUH MC were being retards and now had made 343 commit to shove MC into everything even though it makes zero sense for him to save the galaxy over and over
What's really ironic is the same people who bitch about "wtf why are we still fighting the covenant for the 20th time shouldn't that have ended", such as , , , , and are probably the same people who would freak out if MC was retired or killed off.
I disagree: 2 had a lot of narrative complexity and did a lot of worldbuilding which was planned out a ton, which is why in contact harvest, written by the guy who wrote halo 2, has a ton of expanded references to one off lines of dialog in Halo 2 or shit in Halo 2's marketing. There's also the MB shit in Halo 4's IRIS campaign and in the terminals.
Also, 343 didn't retcon any lore; I assume you are implying they retconned forerunners to not be humans but Halo 3's aformentioned marketing and terminals already did that, though some other lore still implies forerunners were humans": there was contradictory info.
>we can't just have MC saving the galaxy over and over again;
Why not?
It would almost be as silly the universe needing to be saved literally every game.
Chief is the doom guy of halo and should stay, deal with it.
Not to be confused with me not accepting other type of halo games, i would like a covenant or marine POV halo games.
But replacing chief with just another spartan that does the same thing as chief and has the same story and perspective is retarded.
lol people still play these things?!? thought this series was irrelevant xD
>replacing Chief
Yeeaah... seeing how that's working out for MS' other franchise I don't think you want that
prove you're a 343 insider - name every member on the internal 'pro team'
>Internal """"pro"""" team
Is this comprised of retards like Ghostayame?
Who are you quoting?
Ghost works on Apex now but yes a new team was hired to replace the old for competitive settings
>It would almost be as silly the universe needing to be saved literally every game.
Correct, that shouldn't be happening either: It totally kills the sunspeisopon of disbelif for there to constantly be new galactic threats nonstop. The covenant war ended, both the UNSC and the covenant races were weakened and needed to recover. Having the UNSC just bounce back, and then for the Didact, Promthjiamns, Jul's Covenant, The Banished, and now the Created all pop up and be defeated in less then 10 years is stupid as shit and is just 343 trying to invent new confloict for the sake of it even though the UNSC being able to win against all that makes no sense.
Obviously, there DOES need to be conflict for newer games and newer books, but it doesn't need to be galaxy threatening shit, it can be terrorist incidents or whatever; or if they MUST have big huge threats, have it take place a few decades later so it makes sense. And per , replacing MC with another character that can do the same shit at least avoids the problem of the suspension of disbelif: MC saving the galaxy over the over in contrived series of events is silly, but it makes sense if like 30 years later another really good spatrtan manages to do incredible things too.
see above and
is 343 gonna try to make autos work in competitive play again and actually try to make them skill based, or did they totally give into MLGfags whining and are just having them be shit guns for casuals like in past halo games?
the executoion in 5 with skill based autos wasn't the best, but I apperciated they were TRYING, at least.
Here's a hot take: There's no such thing as "classic" halo gameplay, and most of 5's movement shit is fine and works well within the context of Halo';s gameplay
2 added duel wielding and vehicle hijacking, both of which were core new player traits, and 3 added a whole new sandbox category, which actually broke the ONE thing bungie publicly said is a core tenant of Halo's gameplay, which is the golden triangle of melee, grenades, and guns: Equipment broke that. So, if anything, Halo 3 is actually "not classic" wheras 2 arguably is and CE is obviously classic since it came first. That being said, all 3 games do share a few core elements:
>Even starts
>on map pickups
>Emphasis on platforming as part of the level design
Reach breaks not only the Golden Triangle like H3, but also breaks even starts, while 4 goes even further and removes pickups
But H5 brings back even starts, as well as map pickups, AND restores the golden triangle by not having an additional damage/sandbox element like equpment or armor abilities. And while it adds new base player abilities, 2 had already done that, so none of that should be "inherently un-halo", especially since most of 5's new abilities actually enhance the "emphasis on platforming" part. If anything, Halo 5 is more classic Halo then Halo 3 is
Furthermore, most of 5's new mechanics work well and enhance what makes Halo good: The "ADS" actually still works like zoom: not slowing your movement, guns still being fairly accurate without it (it enhances accuracy, but so did zoom in certain past halo games), and being knocked out of it when damaged, just given to more guns; which makes autos less shit. The thrusters, hover, and slide enhances the platforming focus and makes up for the relative lack of movement complexity compared to other arena shooters and also makes clamber not a problem since they add more skilljumps them clamber removes
need one more post ran out of space
>Half the reason 5 is bad is because the entire writing team from 4 left and 5 was given to the Spartan Ops team. And now THOSE guys are gone!
It's like the old saying, third time's the charm.
They can make new chief trilogies every 4-6 years and make games inbetween that take place in the past or from the perspective of marines.
Would eliminate this problem you seem to have.
Most people just want a halo game instead of this character driven bullshit.
cont:
People always whine about sprint is bad because it doesn't actually speed the gameplay up and it expands the maps, but that's not quite true: Yes, the maps are expanded, so as a result the overall rate of map traversal may not be faster; but it still does lead to fastert gameplay in the sense that the movement itself still is: So in terms of strafing, avoiding fire, having to track moving enemies; etc, that speed increase still matters, not to mention that with the scaled up maps more interactions are having over a given amount of space, and that + the additional movement options means there's more player decisions being made per second, which is another core element of game speed; and finally, the animations, time to kill, etc is all faster, which further means that, yes, the game is faster even if map traversal isn't.
Ground pound, however, doesn't really add anything, and Spartan Charge is straight up broken, and just rewards players for running around like retards.
In summary: None of Halo 5's abilities are inherently "un-halo" or "not classic", with some like thrust, hover, slide, etc actually enhancing the core pillars of Halo's game design; and with sprint, clamber, and ground pound either being subjective or neutral, Only Spartan Charge is actually "bad"
prove me wrong
>cortana's covenant
can't they come up with new ideas
>Not to defend 5's plot, since 5's campaign and story was dogshit, or to defend locke, since he's also shit, but all the people who whined about WHERE'S MUH MC were being retards and now had made 343 commit to shove MC into everything even though it makes zero sense for him to save the galaxy over and over
That's something that should have happened a long time ago, it took Microsoft long enough to get it, what the backlash of Halo 2's campaign and the low sales of ODST and Reach meant nothing?
New sandbox items are not the same as base mechanics.
TLDR because i know youre that same 343drone that shows up in every thread, fuck off.
Forgot, no one even played Spartan Ops that should have told Microsoft to just stick with Chief in FPS games.
Also, Chief can live for eons, he's never retiring.
This, thank you, you don't like playing Master Chief in Halo, Samus in Metroid, Doomguy in Doom, then maybe you should move on to other games, read the books, or just play Halo Wars.
This
Who would even call these hobbit?
Are we going to Isengard as well?
>tfw your shitpost will create history
Based
>New sandbox items are not the same as base mechanics.
Duel Wielding nd Vehicle Hijacking are base mechanics, not new sandbox items.
And as I said, bungie LITTERALLY said what makes Halo Halo to them is the golden triangle, not adding or removing core gameplay mechanics; and equipment does violate that golden triangle.
>fighting against the same in uyniverse enemies over and over again is bad
>but playing as the same in universe character over and over again is good
Not really, since cheif is still human: he won't live forever: Even if there's a new galactic threat in like 2580 and it's feasible for it to be beaten, MC will be in his 60's or 70's then. That's still doable given the advances in the halo universe for him to be in combat, but that's about as far as you can go.
What WOULD solve it is if they just moved back in time and had mainline halo games take place oin the Covenant War again, but people seem to not wanting to be fighting the covenant over and over even though they want to still play as MC
>equipment does violate that golden triangle.
No it doesn't. You have to pick them up.
That's like saying vehicles violate it.
Obviously they were referring to base Spartan traits.
equipment are just wierd grenades so i wouldnt say they violate the triangle
Vidya series shouldnt last forever, halo should be retired in 10- 15 years anyway.
>People always whine about sprint is bad because it doesn't actually speed the gameplay up and it expands the maps, but that's not quite true: Yes, the maps are expanded, so as a result the overall rate of map traversal may not be faster; but
There is no 'but' dumbfuck
>Duel Wielding nd Vehicle Hijacking are base mechanics
Theyre attached to sandbox items, SMG's are a new class of one handed weapons, hijacking is still not a base mechanic because you can only use it on a map specific vehicles, surprised you didnt bring up assassinations since they seem to fit what youre looking for, but assassinations are still just exucution animations for backsmacking.
>fighting against the same in uyniverse enemies over and over again is bad
>but playing as the same in universe character over and over again is good
Yes
Also, on Chief's age Spartans can fight well past a century and after the Librarians enhancements Chief will most likely live for eons.
Halo is dead,
It's a vintage game if the 2000s that lived it purpose of enjoying ourselves in that era. Just Let It rest and leave it alone. You done enough damage. Halo 3 was the final chapter. Now your poking a resting coffin.
this desu
>of the 2000s.
Fixed
the same could be said about Mario and countless other video game icons, they are doing fine. Halo is just mismanaged.
Here you go, fags.
>Mario.
Mario is a trademarked character that even little children can look up to as the same as comic books characters like superman.
Halo is one of the many sci-fi vintage games that dines uts purposes and is finished with its trilogy.
Mario can be ok on practically every genre cause how flexible he is.
There a difference.
People played Halo 3,
Finished it and are done with it.
The more the coffin get poked the more it angers those that played.
Just let it rest.
>does its purposes like many other back further.
Fixed
>Halo is one of the many sci-fi vintage games that dines uts purposes and is finished with its trilogy.
Are you retarded? Master Chief is Halo's trademark character, he is the Samus Aran of this series, it's been proven since 2004 that you can't replace him.
Nope. I've played since the beginning and am not done with it. Sounds like an autist problem.
>Samus Aran of this series,
Woah there speedy!
Nintendo was around more before Xbox. Xbox didn't even have a mascot when they're First gen Xbox kicked off. It was originally Ninja Gaiden but they want with Halo after it generated the fame of it being Medal Of Honor in Space. Ever since Halo 3 it as chapter done. Them Halo took a long nap with people assuming it was done. Then 343 comes along and open something that shouldn't be open. I remember people doing funerals of halo 3 and even Avery Johnson when it was finished. 343 is touching something that shouldn't be open. Halo was done Hell even metroid is going through some trouble with its series.
Good for you!
Your post is literally drooling of bias and bitterness so do what you want to do. It means nothing to me.
This
........
>being this triggered
Meant for As well
If that truly is the case tells us something that won't be shown in the E3 showcase
Finished my ass, people were literally begging for Halo 4 even making fake ass mock-ups, people were mad when Bungie stated that Reach was originally Halo 4 but they made it a prequel instead, everyone lost their shit when Frankie came up and announced that they weren't done with Master Chief. The hype for a Halo 4 and the return of the Master Chief was unreal.
gameinformer.com
>Finished my ass, people were literally begging for Halo 4.
Oh lord....
Your bias is showing also articles don't solved the fact that game is recently on its lifeline. Look your obvisiouly a 343 wonderman and it's obvisiouly nothing won't get in your ears so just run along with the this vegative state franchise.
Based security officer bro
Forgot pic
Wrong, Halo is actually selling well under them, Halo was on its death bed when Bungie released those last two Halo games before they left because no one had any interest in ODST and Reach so both sold like crap.
So it's not a reboot then.
Big yikes, they should have just caned the shitfest they created with H4. They again, my dad too works for Nintendo and he says you're lying about everything.
If any of this is real I'm going to blow up all of Halo games, books and my Halo Reach legendary statue with tannerite. I think the only thing keeping me from doing it now is the MCC collection coming on PC.
Hey man, genuinely interested.
When you saw or read this first hand, and as the time as passed since then, what do you sense? Do the visuals and atmosphere leave an impression?
>Wrong, Halo is actually selling well under them
>Halo selling well under 343.
Oh shit!
Your that paid shill everyone talks about that be shilling hard that Halo 4-5 did better than the original.
I'm not going to post to you any longer.
Go shill somewhere else.
He was doing kind of well but he completely lost me at Hobbits.
It did, ODST and Reach are the most ignored Halo games in the series for a reason.
>my Halo Reach legendary statue
Hey if you don't want it I'll buy it.
I don't believe a word of it, I'll wait till the game is released.
Been watching Lord of the Rings lately friend?
>sprint is in
hmm?
Mm, perhaps
quite hmm indeed if I do say so myself yes
>M-m-my pr-precious!
Now we're talking
It was, the MP was the Shitty thing but a lot of the halo 4 story is kino
That's partly why i said it, the levels were pretty memorable too
This, I agree with both of you.
Any of you fags know how's the progress on that eldewrito campaign mod?
sdsa
>halopedia.org
Fuck, what if he's legit?
Story was meh, muh cortana drama never sit right with me, it was also made useless with the existence of 5's campaign.
Levels were also forgettable, mostly just linear shooting galleries with no innovations or variety, ontop of sporting the worst covenant AI in the halo franchise.
>"Halo 5 is more classic Halo then Halo 3 is"
You are such a fucking retard holy shit.
Halo 3 added equipment which were A: Situational and B: Pickups. They weren't inherent abilities you could pull out of your ass whenever you feel like.
The bubble shield was a pickup that when thrown it placed down an invulnerable shield that could be entered by vehicles and players
The Grav lift lifted you to otherwise places like the Spartan Laser tower on high ground which you could get to going up the tower
The Trip mine was a loud fucking mine that was used more as a meme than anything else
Power Drain disabled vehicles and drained shields which shared a function with the plasma pistol albeit at a larger range. Not to mention you could fuck up your throw and waste it
Plus you still had the Overshield and Active-Camo from CE which again were pickups on a timer.
Most of the time you were dealing with the golden triangle and every once in a while there was a wild card, just as there are power weapons in the game, there is equipment to break up some monotony.
Literally the only things that Halo 2 added to base abilities were vehicle boarding, Dual Wielding capability, a faster rechargeable shield which removed health packs, and no fall damage. These are things that were QOL changes and they were a welcome element to Halo. Halo 3 built upon that and kept most of your inherent abilities the exact same.
Adding a bunch of movement abilities and loadouts without any real drawback is what is wrong with 4 & 5. At least with reach you were limited to one kind of ability at a time and everyone had the same starting weapon.
Sprint had horizontal movement that had a cooldown
Jetpack had vertical movement that couldn't be used in all situations and sometimes would just make you a flying target
Armor lock was annoying but could be countered.
We have these threads EVERY SINGLE YEAR and they are ALWAYS WRONG. Though to be fair, that fanfiction leak involving Didact and Jun was better written than Halo 5.
I forgot to mention that the one thing I liked about Halo 5 was the seat switching, that has very minimal impact on gameplay and is a QOL change I can agree on. It was always annoying to have to get out and switch so I do hope they keep that in Infinite.
>>Sprint is in
Stopped reading right there. Dropped.
this
Well, in Halo 5 that wasn't the real Cortana but more of a rampant fragment she removed in Halo 4 on the Didact's ship, the real one died saving Chief at the end of Halo 4, the fragment in Halo 5 also has the Flood's Logic Plague that the Gravemind implanted in her between Halo 2 and 3.
Thats a fan theory
>Well, in Halo 5 that wasn't the real Cortana but more of a rampant fragment she removed in Halo 4 on the Didact's ship, the real one died saving Chief at the end of Halo 4, the fragment in Halo 5 also has the Flood's Logic Plague that the Gravemind implanted in her between Halo 2 and 3.
Who writes this shit?
No rocket race no buy
>Sprint is in
How to keep Halo dead
What is the armor design going to be like? Is it going to be grounded in reality like Reach and 3 or anime bullshit like 4 and 5?
The Data drops kind of spell it out.
Better than "OH Cortana's back! But she's evil now because she is".
Hope it's like Halo 3, Reach was too grounded for Halo.
Enemies factions I expect in Halo Infinite
>Covenant Remnants under Sali Nyon
>Forerunner Prometheans under Cortana
>Sentinels controlled by the Monitor
>The Flood
Am I the only person that doesn't have a problem with sprint? Literally every game has it, who cares?
No, you're not, I don't see an issue in having it and I started with Halo CE, I got use to change.
What about
>hobbits
>Literally every game has it, who cares?
It turns the pacing to shit because the killtimes are too high
This isn't Lord of the Rings, man.
It doesn't work with Halo gameplay because you have a fuckload of health
>>Encounters CORTANA'S COVENANT
Why did they make her evil again? This shit never made any god damn sense to me, especially when she had such a nice send off in Halo 4.
I don't get this character assassination, I mean, it served no purpose.
>Series is about giant evil rings
>New midget enemies likened to Hobbits are 'leaked'
I'm imagining 343 naming all the new types of Fantasy characters now. Hobbits are "Dwarves", snipers are "Elves" and brutes are "Orcs"
Because Brian Reed
I mean, it isn't like you can make a threat on par of the Covenant in terms of how someone can have a powerful army and evil goals. It's like making a brute lead Covenant with scrappy vehicle redesigns called "The Banished" that...
Oh wait.
It was even dumber because she went against all tropes and was actually an AI who didn't go evil and tried to kill humanity instead saving it...but then they revived her and fucking did it anyway
>>Sprint is in
>>Ground pound and Spartan charge are out
>>Clamber is in, but it's used more sparingly in map design
>>Slide is in
Dropped.
*teleports behind you*
*writes the worst fucking campaign in the series*
Heh, nothin personnel... kid
halostory.bungie.org
Did Bungie write the Master Chief part?
Thank god this fucking mongoloid is gone
>Le soiiface
>"We want Halo 3 to be our own Return of the king"
t.bungie
imagine having any hype for a halo game in 2019 LOL
Well, did they?
Arena Shooters do not, so no, fuck you.
I guess that's one way to interpet it, I was assuming it meant "player usable combat tools", vehicles wouldn't count because you are in a vehicle when using them
nah they are clearly a sort of 4th pillar, or 5th if you count vehicles as that other user brought up
except what I said there is true faggot
>Yes
why?
The "but they are contextual" thing always seems super arbiutrary to me. So if bungiew HAD introduced thrusters in Halo 2, ypou think people would have said BUT IT'S NOT CONTEXTUAL LIKE DUEL WIELDING SO IT GOES TOO FAR? Of course not.
People are just having arbitrary standards. Nevermind that 2 also added binoculars which are non-contextual, albiet it's basically pointless in actual gameplay
>So if bungiew HAD introduced thrusters in Halo 2
Thrusters are not contextual because theyre base abilities you fucking retard, and brings up the QOL zoom feature like theyre in any way similar.
Wow youre retarded
Because you don't throw out the series main character to push agendas, and ODST and Reach proved that it was better to have other enemy factions in a Halo game instead of just the Covenant.
Sounded semi-realistic up until
>Demo ends when they stumble onto village of farming humans and hobbits, marines crack joke, pelican touches down in distance
Then you lost me.
Can someone please answer this?
>except what I said there is true faggot
You literally prove yourself wrong
>if you count vehicles as that other user brought up
Well, we dont, because you cant just spawn inside of a vehicle by pressing x or something, its in interactable object just like picking up a weapon on the ground.
When we say base mechanics were talking about what the player can do from the start of spawn and before interacting with the environment.
Goddammit! Did Bungie write this or what?!
All I can say is that I want the Reach Grenade Launcher to come back, exactly how it feels in Reach, day 1. I want to see it in Campaign and every other game mode.
Great taste, i would like them to bring back the brute shot aswell and do something with it so its not just a discount fuel rod, let us bounce around with it by shooting the ground like a rocket jump since it has such low explosive damage.
Grenade jumps have always been kind of shit in halo, i would like to be more in control and have them be more fun.
Is Halo back?
Not until it stops trying to be Halo: Advanced Warfare and not until Frankie gets fucking fired.
Astounding that the best games in the series are 18 and 15 years old.
Unironcally sounds fun and good. But this probably fake
>HOBBITS
I can't even
That would be cool if you could play as more covenant races in certain gamemodes.
>it's a "still no news on mcc pc" episode
What should I get next anons?
They need to introduce more side characters no like 5 that was trash. More charcaters like arbitor johnson miranda et. Halo wars 2 was phenomenal. Who wrote that? Make them in charge
I doubt anybody would ACTUALLY be pissed if sprint was gone in Halo Infinite.
This has no room in the lore, nice try.
>343 insider here
Oh you poor sod
Based 343 will make room for based hobbits.
They already brought it back in Halo 5, expect it to return in Infinite in the campaign.
That's as much as I can realistically hope for.
>let us bounce around with it by shooting the ground
So a bit like the Concussion Rifle? I could see the Brute Shot coming back, and replacing it. I hope the Brutes and the Flood come back, enemy variety felt really stale in Halo 4, and not much better in Halo 5, with its addition of damage sponge Soldiers).
I can see the Flood and sentinels coming back but not the Brutes.
Brutes could come back under the "Cortana Covenant".
Reach was an incredible game for what it was. Story-wise it fell a bit short but it still had that Bungie magic.
>Halo wars 2 was phenomenal.
That game had shit characters, though. Only the commercials for that game actually did anything.
There is no Cortana's Covenant, we're getting Sali Nyon's Covenant.
>says the 3baby
I was born in '97 though.
>97
Dear god
>tfw born in 96
Starting to feel old compared to the average Yea Forumsedditor
CAN WE PLAY AS ELITES?
No fucking way.
>spr
stopped reading there
>sprint is in
All I needed to see.
This game will flop hard. (if true 343NiGGERS never learn)
I really doubt it, why would they kill Jul off just to bring in a another literal who elite thats gonna look just like Jul.
They have something more planned with Cortana and the covenant.
i thought reach was pretty good
They set up Cortana's Covenant within Halo 5 not within some shit comics. The post-launch updates added weapons, maps, and enemy (grunt goblin) which all had descriptions about how the created are taking over the universe and making the covenant species serve them. The grunts in particular are benefiting from this relationship because they got a lot of resources and their homeworld back, allowing them to build the Goblin.
Why do they do half the dumb shit they do? On the other side of the retarded coin, why would they let an AI lead a religious organization that has outlawed AI?
Killing Jul was mistake number one, either of those options is just making another one to put a bandaid on it.
big if true
>let an AI lead a religious organization
It's not the old covenant, it's cortana's covenant. She's not after the crazy religious ones, she's luring them in with promises of recourses and security.
Sounds like shit. At least my expectations will be low.
They already did before, Merg Vol's group was named the Covenant and when Palmer killed him Jul Mdama took his place, Jul had already created his faction called the Covenant so when Merg died Merg's Covenant moved to Jul's. Sali Nyon was a part of Jul's Covenant but turned on him after Halo 4 and took half of his Covenant with him naming his ow group the Covenant. Now that Jul has died and his Covenant fell, they now see Sali Nyon as the true Didact's Hand and joined his Covenant. In other words it's an excuse to keep the Covenant alive and fighting both the players and the Prometheans.
And the Grunt Goblins attack Prometheans in Warzone instead of fight alongside them, even the Banished have Grunt Goblins. The Grunts of their homeworld are the only ones that joined. Plus no one wants a repeat of Halo 4 having the Covenant ally with the Prometheans to blow up their faction because a lack of enemy class, weapons, and vehicles.
*own