Why are there no good magical girl games?

>dub
Why you ruin a good precure thread?

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>Despite regularly preaching about the virtue of love and using heart shaped wands, Magiminx Doki Doki Ai Hiroko ended up being an overworked, unmarried vigilante
>Her archnemesis laughs at her now for acting like she knows anything about love

He already posted Smile.

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Q. Why is Team Chocolate blue?

There aren't even that many not good magical girls around.
For me an arpg magical girl game similar to Kingdom Hearts gameplay really is a no brainer. It would work with Sakura, it would work perfectly with Nanoha, great with Madoka and even with PreCure.

The closest thing I ever played to a good Magical Girl game was Gravity Rush.

>all of them have the generic anime "wah" face
youtu.be/U3o-gqUX9_A

Try Bayonetta.

Sounds like Bayonetta or Nier Automata

I would love a list of non-puzzle games that have at least one prominent magical girl character. No VNs either please.

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Bayonetta is cringe and Nier Automata has nothing to do with magical girls due to a complete lack of a.) magic and b.) girls because androids aren't humans.

Bayonetta is more of a parody of the magical tropes than an serious take on it. The first game is good but obnoxiously finger numbing.

Yes, because Precure is always serious.

Spec-ops asuka action game when?

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All the sailor moon beat em ups and fighters.

Magic Knight Rayearth for Saturn is fucking awesome.

But he posted Smile. That series is maximum fun.

I've always wanted to make a magical girl x-over fighting game. If only I had the skills..

The Sailor Moon fighting game isn't very good, but it's fucking fun

*cont*
Seeing that MG games nowadays are mostly puzzle, dance or dress-up games.

>Heartcasual

The closest you're gonna get is Super Heroine Chronicles.

Best of the beat em ups? The only fighters I've played are SC2 (100%'d the Xbox ver.) and the original MK (Genesis) so I'm not super into them.
Any rpgs or platformers? Or other action ones?

>Why are there no good magical girl games?
let me rephrase that for you:
Why are there no good magical girl games in 2019 that aren't for android and are not a VN.

youtube.com/watch?v=mh2CirS-L7s
Sailor moon fighting.

I like english dubs. This scene is KINO youtube.com/watch?v=cPCGFv6d-DM

Because late night magical shows don't make enough money and Precure makes way more money by selling cheap plastic.

What are good precure games for children that can't read nipponese or english?

I've never played any of them. I do know sailor moon also has a snes final fantasy kind of game.

Smile is the only Precure series I've watched, it was pretty fun and had a handful of genuinely funny and good moments. Sunny is my favorite

precure thread on Yea Forums ?
Did Yea Forums mods kick you out again?

Also wheres the games.

Any game that relies on being cute and moshi moshi desu is going to be crap 90% of the time.

That sounds good

because magical girls are shit in general

There is Super Heroine Chronicle, a SRW game made by SRW devs but with all female chars from different anime.

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Omega Quintet

/pc/ is just shit.

There's a few, but they're all on stuff like PC-98 and PSX.

Toky mew mew PS1 game

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is that fucking digiko

Another SRW like game with old magical girls for also for PS1.

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yes, she is playable in game.

>it's either this game, which is uncommon & short as fuck, or a crappy GBA puzzle VN in terms of Tokyo Mew Mew vidya
>the series will never be revisited in terms of concept & get cool new vidya made for it
I liked the idea of girls becoming magical girls via becoming genetically-spliced mutants, it kind of sucks that the series was only like 8 or 9 volumes. Very comfy series.
Berry was bad, but she wasn't that bad, all things considered. I've seen worse Scrappy-Doo-type chars, and for what it's worth, the rabbit ears were cute. A La Mode's ending was straight retarded though.

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There are shit tons of precure games counting GBA, NDS, 3DS and even Switch.

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The Wii had a couple as well.

This shit gave me my Kemonomimi fetish before I even fucking knew that was a thing to have.

Unless it features character customization and I can pick from the following types of magical girl I don’t want it

>Sailor Scout
>PreCure
>Magical Girls with big ol honking weapons
>Magical Girl in large frilly hoop skirt
>Kill La Kill style magical girl
>Edgy Magical girl (not Kill La Kill, this is an important distinction)
>Magical Girl that just transforms into a monster
>Magical Girl (boy)
>Magical Boy
>FemKamen Rider

>2020-1
>Nanoha STILL isn't in Super Robot Wars

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>What is Kingdom Hearts
Just imagine the main characters are girls and its literally a magical girl plot.

>no Precure Battride Wars
>no Precure Climax Heroes
>not even a 2d beat 'em up like Rider Generations

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Made by Toys for Bob, the people who did Spyro Reignited and Skylands

Be warned, the start of the game is one of the most grindy RPGs in existence.

Is it translated/localized?

>tfw I finally took the Maho Shoujo-Pill
Started with Princess Tutu, then watched all 210 episodes of Doremi and now I'm watching CCS and having a blast so far

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There is a fan translated version
It's called Sailor Moon Another: Story. It takes place after the 3rd arc of the Anime/Manga, and draws plot elements from both.

>It's called Sailor Moon Another: Story
Sorry, I meant
Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon: Another Story

It was translated and hacked many years ago by FuSoYa and Co.
romhacking.net/translations/401/
Note that this translation will use JP names
Also note that this translation came from a long time ago, so I think some of how it came out is a touch literal but unless you're really into Sailor Moon from the outset you probably won't notice issues with slightly too direct translation

Utena is the best mahou shoujo anime of ALL TIME and you can't convince me otherwise

Actually, Mahou Shoujo peaked in 1966, with maybe the last 'great' title being from the early 80s

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Thanks, this sounds like what I've been looking for

How can you play Magical Girl or Anime anything out loud with your speakers without shame?

Do you use headphones at all times or what?

I wouldn't be caught dead letting anyone hear that high pitched anime waifu voice escape my window/door

How many lambs (or talking 80s teddy ruxpin plushies) must i sacrifice for a precure fightan, and how many more i must sacrifice for this adorable bundle of fluffiness on the left to be a playable character, at least as DLC?

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If you're going to play I suggest using the code that let's you start at level 16. It makes the start of the game really easy, but if you don't you're going to spend an eternity grinding just to progress the main story in chapter 2.

>That one doujin where the girls are all defeated by some villain in front of everyone cheering them on and they completely break down
>Follow up is them mindbroken in a dungeon somewhere where his mooks have made them their sex slaves

I don't even fucking know what show this is, I just jacked like a motherfucker. Is it as autistic as it looks?

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Shame that game ruined itself by throwing in Harem LN trash, like IS.

Sure, here's the best one.

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What is it?

...

There IS a single one.

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I play every game with headphones because it helps me hear it all better. Why would anyone use speakers at all in this day and age where a good pair of headphones are 20x cheaper than a good speaker system?

I love you user

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>prehistoric anime
any other good 60s anime?

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because I'm 31 and my parents have accepted that I am a high functioning autistic loser who will never get a job or a girlfriend, fag.

Kyrie's such a goofball in the game. She tried to be all edgy in the movie.

Why aren't there more magical girl games in general, good or not? Blue Reflection might not have been good, but at least it was playable; I wouldn't mind a sequel.

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The game is better in pretty much every way. It even made the Force characters likable.

>Why are there no good magical girl games?
Yes there are

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Most of the good stuff is on the latter half of the sixties, Its kinda complicated because some of them have legitimately great episodes that go beyond anything you could expect from something of the era, if not encompassing that natural weirdness of the era, but 70% of the shows are always low-tier filler, even the good ones like Sally the Witch.

same.

>magical girl management game
>design a mascot/recruiter, pick a theme for your magical team
>set up shop in Not-Tokyo, scope out schools for girls to recruit (pick randomly? pick only athletes? pick only girls whose wish is to become a house wife? whatever criteria you decide)
>design the costume for each recruit, train them, send them out to deal with situations that pop up around the city
>situations/battles resolved based on stats and training, renders a scene to show the result
IMAGINE

A magical girl game seems like the easiest premise for a good game.
>easily co-op or team AI based
>color coded characters with unique abilities
>monster of the week format for bosses
The game designs itself at that point. It's weird that we don't see more of it.

>management game
Discarded.

magical girls are generic

In what way? They are actually quite niche.

The magical girl genre has been completely underutilized in gaming though.

Fuck, now I want Kingdom Hearts with Magical Girls.

So you want the adventure time porn action game?

Mischief Makers was pretty good

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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of this.

>magical girl team of several Ara Ara houswives
make it an H game

Utena isn't even a mahou shoujo anime. You could argue that Anthy's a magical girl but she's not even the main character and doesn't even fight.

Not all magical girls fight.

Fighting games with magical girls really isn't something I think captures the actual magical girl experience. FFS, GoD didn't even have any transformation scenes and you could play as a dude for half the game if you wanted to

Needs to have the structure of a game like Blue Reflection, but be an action RPG with flight and teamwork combo attacks and such

No one in Utena really uses magic

>inb4 car transformation
A bunch of dumb symbolic crap isn't in any way similar to magical girls as we know them

>Implying it's not one of the best.
Eat shit.

youtu.be/2qdNAbCh6NM
Look at this kino and say to me that it's nit a transformation scene from a mahou shojo anime

But there is

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also this

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You need more than clothes getting poofier to be a magical girl anime. Utena doesn't have any more than that.

Are you ready to regain your determination to fist?

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I'm ready for Mikugear to not come back.

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Is this shadowverse?

When? I need to finish watching the series before the new season airs. I only just finished GX.

I'm ready, but I think I'm just going to end up disappointed again

It never is, that pinkish magenta light is Shirabe

The new yellow cure is very ugly.

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>miku doesn't have a page on the site
$20 says that they reveal her new gear, either it being SSJ2 or gungnir, and they add her page to the site and her meteor in the poster.

Her merch sells the lowest so Japanese little girls probably don't like her either.

Nice series, i'm unable to handle them crying though.

Oh that happened to the tomboy blue haired guitar girl too.

I know exactly what doujins you're talking about
I feel the same way

>Are you ready to regain your determination to fist?

Can't fucking wait

July. They already have a release for the CDs

>I'm ready, but I think I'm just going to end up disappointed again
it can't be more disappointing than the last XV thing that came out (fucking Tabata)

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I liked Blue Reflection, warts and all.

Cure Gellato, i remember futaba posting pictures of her being ignored in stores, wish I saved them at the time.

Is the new season any good at least?

Does pachinko count as game?

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it's fun

>heartcatch
>best
back to Yea Forums

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don't you mean Glitter Force?

I wish there were more mahou shoujo like Shamanic Princess.

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its because its a little girls anime
it can't really be helped

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Cringe. Kill yourself normalfag

Because there is no good magical girl anything.

I'm actually surprised someone remembered Shamanic Princess

little girls don't like yellows and purples as much
those are for big friends

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Pretty much most mahou shoujo from the current decade resembles Shamanic Princess because of Madoka. Shamanic Pricness was ahead of its time.

If there can be trannies in Precure, it can be a good Precure action game.

Don't you mean Magical Battle Arena? It's still active

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>purple
Little girls love cool senpai/onee-san characters.
If I learned anything from watching anime girl for little girls is that their tastes aren't all that different from ours. If something is truly good, chances are it can be appreciated by anyone regardless of age.

they don't dislike any of them
they just like pinks and blues better usually

Aoi or Ellen?

You can play the Nanoha games on psp. They got translated last year

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Aoi apparently.

It's been a lot better since episode 10

Aoi Tategami

The target demographic doesn't play video games.

The problem is that my standard is too high, so anything worse than S1 is going to disappoint.

user, take look at your address bar

>not liking Aoi
those kids need a spanking

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>One Piece games
>they're shit
>PreCure games
>they're even worse

>Dragon Ball
>god tier games every 3-5 years

Why the fuck does Toei hate everything but DB.

Doesn't that show have the same character designer as the the Rayearth anime?

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>little japanese girls hate forced diversity too
based

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Smile bores me somewhat.

Vivio cutest magical girl

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I like Creamy Mami

We need an anime like this, but with Bad end Happy as a normal girl.

Was Blue Reflection good?

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Now that you mention it, a Toei FighterZ with a PreCure cast and MC's from Toei anime would be pretty cool. Not sure if any PreCure can survive God Usopp, though.

She's ugly

>yfw Mermaid Melody 3 never ever

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it doesn't feel forced though
especially compared to what I expected

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not really.

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DB gets preferential treatment in every fucking department. Sailor Moon Crystal should have been a 100+ episode show that looked like the 90s anime, too.

YES

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Nope Colorful Pastrale is the closest you'll get.

>Why are there no good magical girl games?
Because magical girl, as a genre, is kind of flaky and vague to begin with. Attempting to translate that into a player-action game, especially when modern magical girl anime requires MCs to act like morons, is rather difficult. What are you even going to do with a magical girl plot and pacing, outside the most linear of RPGs or something like Asura's Wrath?

So you end up with an IP and a franchise that isn't suited to video games at all. And, not surprisingly, you end up with just low-effort puzzle games and such because nothing else makes much sense. They could probably make a decent rhythm game with all the songs found throughout something like Precure, but that would probably require renewing licenses and they probably don't want to put in the effort.

So I'm a computer scientist, got a few free shitty little apps under my belt.

Art-wise, not that great. But maybe decent enough I could do a graphics-lite game, or just borrow/hire an artist to help out.

If you had a phone-game wish list (easier to handle on my end) what would it be for a magical girl game?

Any mention of "dark" magical girls goes straight in the trash,

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what was the dealbreaker?

Hello Nanoha

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If it has to be mobage, straight turn based RPG would be best. You sure you couldn't do it in flash or something?

For me it was just a bit of everything, maybe it gets better later on.
But the offputting graphics and animations combined with the pretty bad gameplay made it a slog to even put in a few hours into.
The dialog and story wasn't really keeping me interested either.

Well honestly, I was thinking less of a pure game and hopefully opening it up a bit more

>flash
senpai.

Nanoha thinks Vivio is VERY CUTE

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>Sailor Moon Crystal should have been a 100+ episode show that looked like the 90s anime, too.

I think Toei feared it would be competing against itself with Precure if they did that. That's probably why they went with a more excruciating faithful adaptation to aim for more adult women

>tfw I hope Nanoha and Fate are finally made canon wife and wife for the Olympics
It will be all worthy if that happens

some form of co-op multiplayer is mandatory, theres nothing worse than a lone magical girl

Yes.

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Was it any good?

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>Magical Girl Racing game never

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Why does the artstyle for these games/anime always suck ass? Are their no maturely drawn magical girl series?

>ctrl f touhou
>nothing
technically every character in these games are magical girls

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because its made for children, and """Mature""" magical girls are always shitty wannabe hack jobs written by hack frauds trying to make bank on madoka ripoffs

Something like Cardcaptor Sakura where the things you hunt down become powers you can use, so you can really customize your magical girl according to the missions you decide to go after and the cards you keep equipped.

what is maturely drawn you homo

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It was pretty mediocre which is a shame since the designs are fantastic.
YuYuYu is a much better successor to Madoka's legacy, and much more successful at building a multimedia franchise.

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They own a home, raise a child and fuck daily. They're basically married.

I liked the ED

Redpill me on magical girl shows. I watched the first Pretty Cute on YTV as a kid, and I remember being hooked to it. I also watched Madoka a while back and thought it was excellent. What else should I watch? Conventional or non-conventional, don't care either way.

At least that was a fun show until the last episode

Honestly, how hard is it to make a game that's like half-Persona where you go around town chilling with friends or doing school lessons and half action game where you fight and beat up monsters?

Smile's great though.

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My only concern with YuYuYu is that you need to bounced between that and the prequel since they spoil each other or someshit like that

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>Are their no maturely drawn magical girl series?
Mentioned a few times ITT, Shamanic Princess. Avoid post-2010 mature magical girl shows like the plague.
youtube.com/watch?v=ea1STzBHn_I

Are you talking gacha shit or just a normal game? Free or paid for? Is it some sort of project just to see if the game can be made, or are you looking to make money?

I'd say a rhythm game would be the easiest to convert into something functional. That is, a person could take the melodies in a magical girl anime and turn them into a game fairly easily. Rhythm games work on mobile. Set up the tone and the presentation and it could feel very fitting for the anime it is trying to represent. The problem is that rhythm games are most certainly not going to be an amateur project, and not something that you'd be doing without an existing license - the goal would be to make people think about the existing IP while playing, not to present its own magical girl story.

You could do a RPG. Especially if you have a somewhat unique RPG combat system, it could work out as something interesting. Magical girl probably presents an unique opportunity here for a mobage. Most magical girl stories and settings involve more interactions and speaking with others, and less fighting hordes of opponents. So if your mobage wants to limit how many fights are available to the player per day, then a genre which is about talking with others, finding out plot points, and watching the characters interact with the occasional monster fight might be an interesting way to handle that.

You could do some sort of shitty action game. Most current magical girl anime are about their magic monster nukes, to various degrees, so an action game which involves building up and laser-blasting enemies could function. It might make more sense as a Gundam game, but if we're insisting on magical girl, then a psudo-Nanoha could work as well. Again, you could do some VN story bits in between fights to justify the action stages. On the plus side, this would probably appeal to more casual players, while the RPG idea would likely only appeal to the most hardcore or nostalgia magical girl fans.

looked cool and teh story seemed like it could be cool. didn't really do much but looked nice.

Stuff that doesn't look like your infantile pic. Why do they all have those big af eyes, etc. ?

What about flip flappers. i hear about that sometimes.

because its cute

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Is the game still censored in PS4?

Does Magical Camp count as magical girl game?

The animation looks nice and character design has depth. I'll look into this thanks user

It never was?

Officially they are just really close """""""""""""""""""""""""friends"""""""""""""""""""""""""

If you want some darker stuff like Madoka:
>Princess Tutu
>Yuuki Yuuna
>Nanoha

If you want more straightforward stuff
>Various other Precure series
>Cardcaptor Sakura
>Sailor Moon
>Houkago no Pleiades (criminally underrated)

If you want to have some dumb fun
>Symphogear
>Magical Girl Spec-ops Asuka

Flip Flappers is excellent and is technically a magical girl show but it's more of a psychological adventure story with magical girl elements.

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if they're never gonna make a proper precure game where I can fight bad guys with fun combat can they at least make a crappy romance game where I can date Cure Passion

Ojamajo Doremi is the funniest magical girl show I know and I used to watch it religiously.

>Ojamajo Doremi is the funniest magical girl
user...

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the "censorship" in Blue Reflection is that they restricted the camera angle in the dressing room.

What?

Maybe hentai/world has truly ruined me. What is designed to be pure and cute repulses me. All I want is ara ara porportions now. ._.

The writers are very obviously taking the piss at this point. I'd like for them to finally acknowledge the obvious onscreen though, maybe if the series ever has a grand finale.

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Fuck off, friends don't do that.

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That's disappointing to hear. Aoi's the best cure in KiraKira.

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you're really confusing me
do you want an unorthodox artstyle or just big tits

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Are you fine with JP audio and subtitles? Because 99% of magical girl stuff is not localized. Also, note that most of this stuff extends for dozens of episodes (if not hundreds) if you try to watch it all.

Sailor Moon (the original one) and Cardcaptor Sakura are going to be the big two. Sailor Moon gets a lot of flack and honestly deserves it, but it also does a good job of having the characters interact and showing them change a bit over time. I'd recommend the first season, up until Beryl/Negaverse is done, at least. I'm less familiar with Cardcaptor Sakura but it also does a good job of characters interacting and not just fighting monsters all the time.

Heartcatch Precure, and Go Princess Precure, are two very good seasons of Precure. Heartcatch is a bit different from the rest of the series, but it really is great in how it handles Tsubomi and the background cast. Go Princess Precure was the season that took most of the lessons they learned from the previous 10 years and applied them all, and it ended up as one of the nicest and best seasons in the whole franchise. Hugtto Precure is a bit odder, but has a lot of the good points that Go Princess (and Heartcatch) does, and it a nice way to wrap up the whole Precure series.

Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha is something interesting to watch. It's called the Gundam of magical girls, although that's more the fights than anything else. If you'd like to see a more "classical" style of magical girl, then Kiki's Delivery Service is a good Miyazaki movie. And if you want something along those lines - more cute and wonder with no monster fighting - then Fushigi Mahou Fun Fun Pharmacy is one I've liked.

So is it still there? Guess I'll pirate it.

madoka is one of those things in life that I hate not because of its own faults but because of what it did to the genre it's a part of.

there really aughta be a flowchart for magical girl shows. or even just precure considering how long that's been running.

To be fair to Madoka, it wasn't even that dark of an anime, and there were already dark magical girls before then (I think mahoiku was even written before it?)

Madoka just made it big so all the anime studios started pulling random shit to get in on the action. Its a shame too, as far as magical girls go Madoka isn't that bad. Its still fairly magical girl focused with more of a focus on their interpersonal relationships as opposed to how dark and evil the setting is.
And even at the end of the day, none of the girls are really evil. Kyouko still had a heart, and even Homura with all her devil chuu2ing just wanted to make life better for everyone.

I feel you, brother. Well, I don't actually like Madoka itself either much. But I'm bitter about the way it's made people look at mahou shoujo.

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Despite Madoka's insane popularity there was never an outbreak of "dark" magical girl shows afterward. It's most obvious "imitator", Genei, was actually already in production before Madoka even aired and was not successful.

The issue is that little girls are not as profitable a market as they used to be, as Precure has almost all of the "actual little girl" market cornered and as we all know there are not as many children in Japan as there were twenty years ago. If anything the shift in mahou shoujo toward adult audiences is more Nanoha's fault than Madoka's, because Nanoha first showed that aiming magical girl shows solely at the male 18-40 crowd could be insanely profitable.

A lot of modern magical girl series have another aspect to them. For example, Symphogear is also a music anime and has the mecha musume themes making it an honorary mecha anime. Probably the closest successful series to be similar to Madoka tonewise are YuYuYu and Magical Girl Raising Project (and the latter's success is more in LNs)

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Oh man i can't wait for that nichijou dub

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I want Magical Gals user. T^T Girls that have alluring, "come of age" designs but are still pure.

>Max Heart costumes are worse than original Futari
>Gogo costumes are worse than original 5
Seriously why do they have to get rid of midriffs on the main character

>Sailor Moon Crystal should have been a 100+ episode show that looked like the 90s anime, too.
90's anime look? Fine. 100+ episodes wouldn't work because the og Sailor Moon is kinda dull aside from sailor earth being slightly useful

nanoha then maybe
they grow up after S2

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On this note, I hate symphogearfags more than any other anime. At least the dark magical girls have some appeal.

Symphogearfags are always obnoxious and annoying with their shit, and its not even a good anime. Plus the music is garbage.

As someone who actually likes musical focused anime, it annoys me how symphogear single handedly manges to fuck up not only their magical girl theme, but also its musical theme.
Like fuck nana, you're actually a good artist, how do you fuck up this badly.

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I enjoyed it, but it's was pretty trashy, especially since the villain's goal is to get Sun-loli pregnant. As well as green gal suddenly turning in to a werewolf.

Star girl was cool though, I like her.

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>Plus the music is garbage.

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It's the least marketable concept imaginable in the US though. Imagine the pink cute box art, literally no male would be caught anywhere near it. There's a reason every game needs to have a gruff 30yo male with stubble on the cover

Magical Girl is kind of simple. It started with Sally the Witch back in the 60s, which was inspired by Bewitched/I Dream of Jeannie. As such, it follows a lot of similar themes, except that the main character was a young girl in school and so learning to work with other people. Pretty much all of the "classical" magical girl shows followed the same formula, including the school girl thing and keeping her powers a secret.

In the 90s, Sailor Moon came out, and it had merged the existing magical girl with some sentai (i.e. Power Rangers) to make several-person teams fighting monsters every week. This turned out to be very popular, and a large number of shows followed the formula. Hell, most people aren't even aware that magical girl can even have no monster fights anymore.

Past that, your biggest titles are Precure, Cardcaptor, and Madoka. Sure, you have your Nanoha, your Vividred, your Dog Days, etc. But most of those are either one-shots that didn't see more (remember Tokyo Mew Mew?) or are fairly small and not well known. And it's next to impossible to find any of those classic magical girl shows given that so many people reject a show as not being "magical girl" enough because they don't have transforming costumes, or some other standard that Sailor Moon created.

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>announced in 2012
>promise 7 OVAs all with different artstyles and directors
>time pass
>pachinko, pachinko, pachinko
>3 years later, 2015
>1st OVA 'released'
>only shown in a small convention, never shown to public to this day
>time pass without anything
>2 years later, 2017
>2nd OVA 'released'
>free on Youtube for half a month, taken down afterwards
>time pass without anything
>now here
What the FUCKING FUCK is wrong with Shaft

oh what a surprise.

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it doesn't have the best story ever but I won't stand for you shitting on the music

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>hating fun
>hating symphogear songs
objectively bad taste
Also Synchrogazer is the best Symphogeah OP

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I don't know where the notion that Madoka invented dark or mature magical girl stuff came from to begin with. Dream Hunter Rem had a cute artstyle but with extreme violence back in the 80s and was specifically marketed towards and popular with otaku instead of children.

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The same kind of people who call Madoka a deconstruction
I love Madoka but it has a lot of dumb fans

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They're just objectively shit.

just compare
youtube.com/watch?v=PL96qmR-Wyg
to
youtube.com/watch?v=8rtF5R9QTlE

Symphogear is just generic shounen tier boring crap. While Star Twinkle is original and fun and appealing to people of all ages.

no but really, symphogear songs just get extremely boring and generic, and as stand alone songs they're subpar at their very best. you need more than shoving plot points into the lyrics to have it be a decent song.

No good games where you can be a precure

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#1 rule of CCS is
Don't
Binge

Go slow
You can only watch it for the first time once.

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>compare x to y
I hate this consolewarring mindset the majority of people here have

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Kiruminzoo is a very good show and you should watch it right now.

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>not liking LISTEN TO MY SOOOONG
>not like HIBIKE HIBIKE HAATO YO
>not liking ZENBU ZENBU ZENBU
>not liking the beef stroganoff song

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>t-they're both good in their own way!
sitting on the fence doesn't make you mature, it just means you're incapable of making decisions.

This was a good game, weird AU story that involves Nanoha Force somehow.

>liking songs where people don't even realize its actually being sung in english

they're songs user

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>Recording Sakura while she's sleeping.

Fuckin Tomoyo, i understand her recording Sakura's fights on a 'chronicler' standpoint, but this is being a fucking degenerate!

It's not that people think it invented dark magical girl stuff, but due to its immense popularity it brought the idea to the attention of a lot of modern anime fans who started looking at the genre filtered through expectations from Madoka.

how would you define "go slow?" when I watch my shows I tend to only do two episodes a day, so something like your annual precures takes about a month to get through

It doesn't mean they have equal merit.
>b-but the same 20 people spammed g-beat 1000 times in 1 thread! doesn't that mean its good!

I'm not denying there are some great shows outside the ones I listed, just that they aren't such major influences and aren't as well known. It isn't as much "there needs to be a flowchart" because everything is mostly going to boil down to classic magical girl, sentai magical girl, and straight derivatives of other works. I mean, there's this trend of "idol magical girls" that I've seen over the last few years or so, but that is really just taking the sentai formula and applying it to the idol genre.

Thanks for the recommendation, though. I'll check it out.

This only thing good about this anime are the CGI fight scenes and the porn.

Let her have her fun, it is not she will ever get any of Sakura pussy in any timeline anyways

Also meant to post the actual OP because it's awesome and one of the few symphogear song videos that hasn't been purged from youtube
youtube.com/watch?v=2GMkJKh_q-w

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Based. Post-2015 fags pretend garbage seasons like Maho and Smile are good.

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In some timeline she loses it and breaks Sakura's legs so that she'll belong only to her.

>only 1 mention of GoPri
>only 1 mention of Hugtto
>it's the same post

I knew Yea Forums had some bad taste, but this is next level.

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It's not

Huggto's MC's skin was too dark so I skipped that season and most likely everyone else did too

Fuck you and fuck the hypocrites at CLAMP

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the only good precure was futanari wa precure desu senpai
the later seasons just weren't the same.

why is nonohana so ugly

Hugtto went to shit too quickly to be remembered.

GoPri fans have all grown up to become chads and left for greener pastures, only returning to jerk off to Kirara every few months.

Hugtto can't be talked about here due to the crossdresser and the pedophile.

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>Dat note.

i like this translator, i mean, i like yuri as much as anyone else, but yeah, Tomoyo can sometimes border from 'REALLY nice friend' to 'Tying you up in a basement-creepy!'

?

>tfw you'll never be Sakura being literally kidnapped and raped by Tomoyo

i dunno what are you talking about, but Henri was a good guy, his whole 'im a cure'''Arc'' was forced yeah, but it wasnt that bad, it had a nice build up and all. and really, nobody complained like if it was a SJW deal.

about George? he was just a literal madman.

I only got into precure a few months ago but I've enjoyed the four seasons I've watched so far (HC, Smile, Krkr, Fresh.) Would probably say Smile is my favorite but Kirakira isn't that far behind.

What do you guys generally think is the best?

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youtu.be/EgZy3J15ORM

>that one madoka doujin where homura kidnaps madoka and rapes her for weeks to protect her from walgreensnight
I wish it was longer

Yes 5 + GoGo is my favorite, no contest. Generally people will say either Heartcatch or Gopri though.

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>He hasn't played the Sweet Knights series of games that literally has so many games, it's its own game universe
LUL
GTFO zoomer

youtube.com/watch?v=P1EHqo0nSAg

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bought a fancy blu ray for flip flappers, i'm glad i got that artbook desu

It's not really just about being first, but more like the first to do dark well. Nobody cares if someone just makes an extremely violent mahou shoujo, anyone can do something like that.

you're not looking hard enough, OP

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I hear the sailor moon fighting game was decent

youtube.com/watch?v=D2EX7_yGnv8

youtube.com/watch?v=TYTNgtnTc0c
youtube.com/watch?v=mjb0jG06V-E

Well Yea Forums.. can you find a better bear than Mofu or Kumata/DarkMatter? Spoiler: You cant!

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>Little girls love cool senpai/onee-san characters.
Based lolis.

she said "good" magical girl games user

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Washio Sumi got adapted into an anime, and honestly you don't lose much by going YuYuYu -> Washio Sumi anime (the one reveal about WaSuYu that watching YuYuYu first is supposed to spoil is super obvious anyway)

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I actually thought that's where Madoka was going at first based on mamis comments in the second episode

Smile is definitely my favourite, followed closely by Splash Star.

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I love Fresh and have never seen anyone agree with me or try to shill it like any of the more standout seasons of Precure.

Suite and DokiDoki are my favorites

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>Maho

1.- freedom planet is a good game.

2.-? this is not really a magical girl game, it has girls using magic, but its not really the same thing.

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Good fuck nichijou.

unironically Senran Kagura. gameplay has you transforming from your normal state to a ninja state which opens up far more combat options including finishers, also the whole "ninja identity being hidden from the rest of society" thing. Maybe there's more parallels I dunno but that's enough for me until a proper magical girl game that's even half as fun as these dumb titles are comes around.

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out of curiosity, where would one start with the senran series

Play the 3DS games. That's it, you're done.

Two episodes a day is good, but try not to say, watch 50+ episodes every day until you're done.

the last thing you want to do with a comfy feel-good show is burn out on it.

She's doing god's work.

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If you want story, Burst and SK2 on 3DS. If you just want a fun beatemup, Shinovi Versus on PC/Vita. Estival Versus is fun too but you'd better be prepared for that to be pure filler on the story standpoint.

The genre is stagnant and overdone and it's nearly impossible to refresh. Prove me wrong: Protip, you cannot.

Nanoha needs a new game

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Too manly for the average gamer to handle.

In general? Go Princess. It took a lot of lessons they learned over the creation of the series before then and applied them well. The biggest problem that I remember is the ending being quite weak, but everything else about it was great.

For personal preference? I liked Heartcatch and Happiness Charge. The first did a lot of things well, and I really do like Tsubomi as a main character. As for the second, it was nice to have a series where the goal was actually working out the problems presented rather than just punching them in the face harder.

I also really liked Splash Star. Both because it was a lot cleaner than the original, and because that was back when Precure was still very much its own thing. Precure these days tends to be very generic magical girl, while Splash Star was back when the show looked distinctly "Precure" with its goofy platform boots and when the show focused on two strangers getting more involved in each others lives and getting to know one another more.

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and it being overdone is fine since the genre has been mastered
prove me wrong Protip, you can't

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S: GoPri
A: Heartcatch, Smile, Doki, Hugtto
B: Fresh, Suite, Doki, Maho
C: Futari wa, Max Heart, Splash Star, Yes 5, GoGo
D: HaCha, KiraKira

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I still want my magic MMA tournament game that plays like God Hand.

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>YuYuYu
>exactly like Madoka
I'm triggered

Magical girl but it's Bully.

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I don't agree with about Madoka not affecting anything in the genre because I think that's just being in denial about it, but I do think he has a good point about market stagnation if Madoka had never been made and the genre had stayed on its current course. Honestly I don't think you should look at it as traditional mahou shoujo getting replaced by darker shows, even if the dark trend had never gotten off the ground we probably wouldn't see much more normal mahou shoujo than we see today.

Nanoha isn't really a dark as Madoka, or even as dark as Sailor Moon gets sometimes

Nah, I think Nanoha proper should stick to flying combat and Vivid should be a beat-em-up.

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Did precure jump the shark with the child birthing scene?

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Her issue is simply that the character they went for her is simply trash. Look at how through all the history of Precure every "I have a gorillion siblings muh family" character has been a total bomb.
If they had gone balls deep with a genki gyaru to go alongside the delicious brown they'd be sitting on gorillions from big friends and little girls who wanna be cheery and popular and fashionable like that too.

>spoiler
Good taste, I love HaCha. Although funnily enough one of the things I liked a lot is how hilariously violent it was sometimes. Megumi was a monster.

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>nanoha game
>not a flight sim

Not her fault Lala overshadows every other character on that show. Only Madoka matches her in popularity and that's only becsuse she's you typical Nadesico character the japs go crazy over.

Its fine, as long as they give us a proper lesbian next season.

My dick jumped if you know what I mean.

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Maybe "dark" isn't the right word but more "adult-oriented', which Nanoha definitely is.

it probably won't be as gay as mahou and kirakira but its pretty fucking gay so far compared to hugtto

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Pretty sure it was with the Actual Pedophile, but hey at least it was a happy ending, right?

Holy shit, how long has it been.

>tfw no mahou shoujo battle royale game
Fuck you madoka.

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>Megumi beam
>yellow cure just drops an energy bomb from space
>the late-season teamup attack involved multiple laser-nukes hitting the target, destroying the ground nearby
I'll admit, it was fun.

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Where do i even start with precure? shit has multiple seasons.

That episode broke me. I was bawling like a little girl right there, it was not fucking fair. Smile staff really loved shitting on Nao between this and the Majorina episode where she "killed" her siblings.
To this day I'm also still mad there was not a Nao x Reika focused episode.

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>tfw NoWaYu anime fucking never

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choose the one with the girls you find cutest and have fun, all the seasons are their own thing

>tfw no mahou shoujo game period
Madoka was the only one big enough to have an actual possibility of getting something real but Japan loves their mobage too much. No, mobages don't count.

It's fine
She's his wife.

Its kinda funny that YuYuYu and Genei are actually very similar, both even had a prequel novel and all, very similar business approach too. But Genei was planned before Madoka, so when it arrived, it got fucked for being too close to Madoka despite predating it and just being magical girl Higurashi.
YuYuYu, on the other hand, was planned after Madoka and had a good planning staff and a whole lot of luck to take the one niche for a dark magical girl after Madoka, thus being the only one which sold well despite the fact saying it was a product of the post-Madoka late night anime market is true.
Its a nice lesson in business, I guess.

Why were Nanoha Force's designs so good but the manga so bad?

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You're simply proving my point about how her character archetype sucks.

>Quirky lol so random retard
>Yamato Nadeshiko
Do you think "I'm perfect and I have a big family and love them" would be able to compete at all?
And it's gonna get worse now that the cat girl is a semi-recurring character now who will become a mainstay as she becomes the extra-cure.

boring male self insert with generic "I'm so weak and pathetic, BUT ACTUALLY I HAVE NULLIFICATION POWERS! AND THAT MAKES ME SUPER STRONG!"

Hugtto was a complete mess. I really fucking those two faggots of Ikuhara and Sato. Anything they touch is utter cancer.

>Digibro

It can't be helped.

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pick your favorite character out of this image and watch their season.

I'm not the kinda guy that cries at movies or tv shows but this was the one exception and honestly I'm not sure why a throwaway episode of precure of all things is what finally broke that straw.

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Is Madoka overrated? I remember it being just a solid 8/10 show. It didn't feel like it was anything incredible to me.

>no mention of Wish Upon the Pleiades

Weak.

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>I'm not sure why a throwaway episode of precure of all things is what finally broke that straw.
You have utterly have no soul to not be able to sympathize with was Nao was feeling and going through there.

But he was good in the PSP game. Why couldn't they have made him good in the manga?

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youtu.be/QD8JgRsh5ro

>Is Madoka overrated
Yes, Oriko is better.

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I-I liked Ikusei Keikaku and the novels are really good!

Only two seasons are sequels. The whole thing is designed for small children to be able to watch any season as their first one. I mean, it's aimed at 5-8 year olds, not to the now-adult fans who watched the first few seasons.

Go Princess Precure is generally considered one of the best done seasons, so it's a good place to dive in. If you can't accept the premise or the idea of daily monsters drives you away, then the rest of the series is probably not to your liking.

Smile Precure is another popular one. Smile is very, very much sillier. I stopped watching it because everyone was borderline retarded, but it seems popular enough.

The other option is to just start at the beginning. Futari Wa Pretty Cure is still watchable today, and arguably better than a lot of recent seasons given that it was still doing its own thing. I personally prefer the followup season (Splash Star) which sort of did the same thing, but better, but the difference isn't so huge as to make one objectively better than the other.

If you like what you see, then you can look for more recommendations. If you don't like those at all, then the other seasons are going to be far more disappointing.

My point is none of the Star Twinkle cast are all that deep. The 2 most popular simply soaked up the divide between little girls and big friends which leaves Hikaru and Elena with nothing. But this happens every sesson, you'd be hard pressed to find a Precure season with a +4 team where everyone is popular.

Even GoPri had a loser with Minami getting left in the dust by HaruHaru, Kirara and Towa.

It was retooled at the last second and it's clear the person writing it was just hopping onto the Seinen train that was going on at the time where everyone was making one and didn't think of a way to integrate it with the rest of the series.
The experimental armor/weapons were actually created to be an afterthought, inferior to the powerups the MC were getting, but then priorities changed when everyone hated it and suddenly Fortress mode Nanoha was on every cover until it went on hiatus in like 2008.

I'm glad they brought them back for Reflection.

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If the boom of new magical girl shows had happened in the 2000s, we would have had real games. Perhaps even crossovers.

How fucked up is it that the only time two magical girls from different companies had a crossover on video was in the 80s, with Minky Momo and Creamy Mami, two magical girls that don't fight normally, but new combat-focused magical girls never have crossovers.
youtube.com/watch?v=nA_rP_HIFaI

It helps that YuYuYu was a much better anime than Genei
People were definitely waiting for the other shoe to drop in YuYuYu and it handled it extremely well.

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No. Having actual tight plotting in a magical girl show is a big deal to me. Characterization is fast but dense.

Pretty much. Sucks for the brownfags. Better luck next time when they decide to try again in 10 years.

I love the cartridge system in Nanoha. I wish there were a game that had a similar idea.

>I stopped watching it because everyone was borderline retarded

That's exactly why I kept watching it. They're Milky Holmes levels of damedame and the only reason the villains lost was because they just happened to be even dumber.

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Which one is smug blondie on the lower right throwing the V sign with the blue dress from?

>I'm glad they brought them back for Reflection.
I'm not.
The designs are worse versions of the Force weapons, and the story is a worse version of Gears of Destiny. Reflection and Detonation shouldn't even exist.

>Nanoha dead
>YuYuYu dead
>Madoka in gacha hell
>Everything else is a literally who
What went wrong?

Kirakira Precure A La Mode

I hear mixed opinions but personally I loved it.

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I forgot to mention that Episode 8 was where the show began to get a lot more attention and preorders, it was doing okay-ish before but afterward went on to become a 10k seller

Yeah pretty much, typical great show with an annoying fanbase that overhypes it as the pinnacle of anime.
Rebellion was a mistake.

A shitty season.

Vivio still has the best transformation, It oozes money.
youtube.com/watch?v=wTiwaZ9VLrI

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Cure Parfait from KiraKira Precure.

That season was boring and they wasted a cute, cynical 100 year old gothic Lolita villain in it.

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>>Nanoha dead
Isn't Vivid Strike getting a sequel?

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>Rebellion was a mistake.

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Yeah as a Madokafag I'll say that YuYuYu did a great job in handling the dark transition in a post-Madoka environment where everyone is expecting it and waiting for it to happen from ep1. Still don't like that ending though unfortunately.

No one gives a shit about these literally whos.
Everyone just wants Nanoha and Fate but Yukarin is on suicide watch and Nana too busy making gorillions as a singer.

Maybe, they're doing a big announcement soon.

I'm gay but even I know you're all a bunch of faggots

There should be a game like Tribes, but with magical girls.
Maybe make it 3rd person with intricate character customisation.

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The old guard died because the studios running them couldn't think of a way to capitalize on their success.
Of course I'm speaking mostly about Nanoha. King Records had a golden goose and killed it.
Strike isn't really Nanoha. It's a spinoff. Nanoha probably won't appear in that one, either, because they fucked up Yukarin's contract with King Records.

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Too bad YYY went to fucking hell after S2 and ruined everything it had built up so far and development was a mess behind curtains.

Ah good, a controversial one. The easiest to shitpost about. Even if the show itself isn't good, the fringe benefits will be

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Precure has yearly crossovers with itself.

Actually, that might entirely be the reason. Precure is so huge that they can just crossover with their older seasons. They don't need to crossover with other series. They'd only be driving people to the competition that way. So Precure doesn't have crossovers, and everyone else is too small to have more than a single season, so it just doesn't happen.

I liked it more than Vivid. Shame the manga's on hiatus forever and they're too scared to revisit it.
They already did and it was just for some anniversary event in January.
Fuck this dead franchise.

I don't think YuYuYu was that good, but it was smart. It actually takes a fucking bold gamble, it doesn't go for the typical shock value, because the true shock value was in casually telling the dark twist of the series, to the point the viewer and the characters can try to overlook it as the series has two more episodes of increasingly tense Slice of Life.

Hell yeah
Proper Symphogear game fucking when?!

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Takes one to know one

Now come watch little girl cartoons with us.

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I once had this dream where there was magical girls on not-medieval fantasy and the twist was that it was the post-apocalypse and the source of the powers was super advanced tech.

It's not healthy to watch shows just to shitpost. If it was I wouldn't have dropped Kamen Rider Ghost like a lead balloon 30 episodes in when I knew I shoulda done it 15 episodes prior. Watch them to enjoy them.

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I assume the anniversary event will announce something.
Hopefully more Vivio

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At least half the people in this thread have vaginas.

>Nanoha lost a lot of momentum after StrikerS, going too far too fast and introducing too many characters, leading up to a universally-reviled manga sequel that's clogged up the continuity, leaving Nanoha to wander about with spinoffs
>YuYuYu ended its story pretty decisively, although the second season had a lot of interference by studio execs butting in where they don't belong, but NoWaYu anime is always possible as long as the mobage is ongoing, also Snokkoposting
>Urobuchi is too busy playing with Taiwanese puppets

So we've talked about a lot of magical girls in this thread. But there is one thing we have yet to discuss.
Who is the best girl out of all the best girls, and why is it Yagami Hayate?
Sailor Venus and Tomoe Mami are also acceptable answers.

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Sayaka's arc was the peak. Homura is a dork.

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nanoha has an announcement in january

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I'm still wondering why nobody has put together Magical Girls and the Monster Hunter genre yet. It's absolutely genius.

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That's a lot of anime. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the explanation for at least one magical girl show as well. Hell, Nanoha is technically alien tech.

If you want to shitpost, DokiDoki and Mahou are the seasons you want.

That isn't /ourautist/

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Hayate is a third wheel

My favorite cure is Setsuna from Fresh but the best girl in general isn't up for debate.

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I haven't seen S2 yet. You're making me nervous over here.

Reading through this thread I'm starting to feel that nothing "went wrong" necessarily. Madoka made an exception for itself and then inflated the size of the genre for a time but magical girls are just not a thing that people watch, and the money isn't there to sustain any more entries.

this desu

She is more fun than Nanoha and Fate put together.

Not even best within her show, that honor goes to Sailor Venus.

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I think Vivio is probably the most likely outcome of all of them, so you're gonna get your wish.
It's that Kana-chan, man.

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since we're hopelessly off topic, someone recommend me a magical girl anime that feels like Milky Holmes

That's the best philosophy to go by. That's why I don't watch Precure seasons that aren't worth watching.

Damn thats a transformation thats got something for everybody

Speaking of magical girls, what was the show again where the girl beats her three bullies to near death and apparently becomes a cage fighter or something? I kept forgetting to look it up when I did see the name and now I forgot it.

It's funny but almost every single game that company has made has been a magical girl game
ALMOST. EVERY. SINGLE. GAME.

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S2 is still really good but it's very condensed because for some reason it only got 6 episodes
Also it has a LOT of Yuuna suffering

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Vivid Strike

it's been said before ITT but Smile Precure

ViVid Strike, it's a spinoff of the Lyrical Nanoha franchise that takes place after the first three seasons and the Vivid manga.

Thanks bro. Also realized someone posted the .webm the exact moment. Though how much punching is in the show? I need my fill while I wait on Sympho

However, only the 3rd season and Vivid are remotely relevant to the events of ViVid Strike, and even then only because they introduce characters that the show expects you to know from those entries in the franchise.

Got to go with my based genki autist Sayaka.

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I think you are forgetting someone.

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Official Nanoha art is the best art

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I haven't been on /pc/ for a while now, but this has to be one of the best Precure threads I've been in a long time.

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>Though how much punching is in the show?
Most of the show is training for MMA tournaments and MMA tournaments.

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I literally can't find what you're talking about

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I want to hire Mami to come up with cringey names for every magical girl's special attacks.

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I'm not sure how childbirth is jumping the shark, not everybody can have their children magically extracted like Bulma.

I haven't been to those threads since the mass shitposting days of HaCha and DokiDoki. It straight up died once GoPri started.

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Of course, they all secretly think the names are cool.

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