What a scene, man! Hoo-wee! Then they just plop ya out here like a naked baby in the woods. How 'bout that? Ah... look, kiddo, this is probably a lot for you to take in, so uh, why don't you let me show you the VTMB thread. Whaddya say?
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Malkavian is best for a first playthrough
I cant wait to not keep all the cool weapons I find because they keep breaking or I keep tossing them away when I run out of ammo.
While it does sound retarded at first, it makes me think combat will play out a little like Hotline Miami. As long as it's deadly enough, it could work.
Still, I don't know how they want to do this exactly, packing heat is an important part of the aesthetic.
Youll be packing heat alright, its just that youll be using whatever your enemies drop or you find around the enviroment.
I wonder how people will react to having their precious pre order weapons breaking and not getting them back.
Reminder that in the game canon he is caine and the ending only makes sense that way.
>play out a little like Hotline Miami
Actually that could would be cool, but it would need some effort in game design. I'm still not sure what they have in mind with firearms.
I SWEAR IF I SEE A VENTRUE NIGGER IN THIS THREAD TRYING TO TAKE AWAY MY FREEDOM ILL PUNCH THE SHIT OUTTA YOU
I might have a business proposition for you.
>tfw giovanni
I actually did this, no regrets.
good evening
From what I understand they will either break or run out of bullets which will lead to you dropping the gun or doing some kind of animation where you lunge into someone and take their gun.
This guy looks like he dressed and shaved himself like this for a costume party rahter than because he actually goes anywhere looking like this.
>RAT SUCKER
Did you SUCC the rat at the tutorial lads?
>you cant keep weapons
GAY and LAME
Yes because I was a dumb little fledgling
reminder you can't keep guns because the devs are trying to make a comment on gun ownership
he kind of looks like lemmy from motorhead if he was bald
Who /toreadorchad/ here?
>sucked rats exclusively the entire game on first playthrough
>got through fine
Vampires are retarded just set up animal blood farms.
Started with a Toreador yesterday. Just couldn't bear it. but I did later in the sewers when I was low
What the fuck are you talking about?
>Vampires are retarded just set up animal blood farms.
that's what blood banks are
Bloodlines 2 has weapon durability of somekind.
Why would he even be getting involved with you in the first place?
is watching LA by Night worth it?
could be neat desu
I'm actually not sure what he wanted to accomplish.
Because it's a video game honestly. Gotta make your super hero MC feel special. If you read the description they give for him in the Final Nights book with the Gehenna scenarios it's easier to understand why WW made them knock that Caine shit off.
it's mostly meant to be a metaphor, for his blood being in your veins and affecting your DESTINY
I have only watched season 1 and normally don't watch roleplaying sessions/find them boring yes it was worth it and Jasper/Alex is great.
Why get involved with jack too, why does he care that lacroix wants to diablerize someone?
Except you throw away guns once you run out of ammo.
Why do these threads keep getting locked
I'm at the end of Chapter 1 Season 1 and I like it so far, to be honest I mostly watch it for background noise and to learn more about making a roleplaying character Jasper is my favorite so far, Alex plays his role very well
But now with v5 retcons and bloodlines 2 gehenna never actually happened.
i'm not seeing how that changes my point user.
So?
Anarchs working that peer pressure
He looks really cute here
I was playing malk for a bit but couldn’t get into the gameplay, I liked the wacky shit tho, I switched to toreador cause I heard of celerity with guns, which is cool but man you gotta pay for ammo I’m not sure what pick
I did the quiz and got malk
I read tremere or whatever has magic shit which is cool but apparently they’re the jews? from reading these threads
should o stick to toreador or what
I’m trying to get into this I really want to
You think dropping functional gear for no reason is "neat"?
have you ever played the condemned user?
Im talking about VTMB 2, this kind of mechanic makes no sense at all.
I think caine was handled subtle enough, for a major storyline and a video game. He never reveals himself, he never intervenes directly but nudges characters into certain directions. Also the whole Gehenna book is now non-canon for bloodlines.
WW can suck my dick.
and I said it worked well in the condemned so it might work well here. if you've never played the condemned how would you know the system wouldn't work/is shit?
Because I hate video games, therefore it's shit.
>for a major storyline and a video game
This is the problem in itself. Like I said, since it's a video game they pretty much have to make you a snowflake or randos get bored. I just agree with WW's reasoning behind making Troika tone down the Caine shit from a directly proven NPC to just a mysterious cabbie.
I completely disagree, actually understanding the prophetic shit is more enjoyable than simulating mental illness yourself.
I can't see them not including a way to buy ammo or keep a gun you really like. Tossing guns to pick up loaded ones might just be an option for people who don't want to invest that much in them. The original kind of worked in a similar way too, you'd just get ammo added to your inventory by walking over dropped guns. They might just be expanding on that instead of having it be an instant pickup with no real interaction.
But you aren't a special snowflake, thats just your interpretation. You are mostly a chess piece moved around by, well, everyone.
>I just agree with WW's reasoning behind making Troika tone down the Caine shit from a directly proven NPC to just a mysterious cabbie.
Did it really change anything? And I thought they only did that because they wanted Caine somewhere else and not that they had an actual problem with how he was used? Most players probably didn't even know he was supposed to be Caine until after they played the game and someone told them anyway.
Nigger shut up
It might work in a setting like that but your in Bloodlines 2 your in Seattle, your perfectable capeable of going to a store or somewhere else to buy yourself bullets, maybe even use some that enemies drop.
Theres nothing stopping you from keeping all the guns you can carry.
Pawns move where knights fear to tread user. You're still snowflake tier. The game takes 2 weeks at most and you go from fledgling to killing the sheriff and prince in that time.
>Did it really change anything?
Caine was going to be directly called out as the cab driver, but WW said "lolno" so now we only have vagaries and the credits. That's fine, but having him just be like "yeah I'm Caine, Dark Lord and First Vampire, here to help you out youngling" would have been hella lame.
Well yeah, thats a concession to it being a video game and not taking 200 hours to play for one character.
I guess they could have found a better way to beat Lacroix, but you know the game was rushed in the end.
>durability system
>throw away gun once out of ammo
Feel free to dab on me with proofs if I'm wrong, but it sounds like you're either confusing two different systems or making shit up
>Caine was going to be directly called out as the cab driver
Source? Never heard that before. Just that WW got butthurt because they wanted Caine to be somewhere else at the time VtMB was supposed to take place.
I think you're mistaking me for having a problem with being snowflake tier. Most games do it so it's no biggy. Let's call a spade a spade though.
I'm glad it didn't end up that way. But I still like the game canon, also makes it more hilarious as a malk who is the only pc that gets it
Also if they throw in a line in vtmb2 "yeah there was this crazy malk driver" or something I'm gonna be seething.
Malk dialogue, which while meme-tier 99% of the time, is always 100% true when it comes to major plot shit
Gangrel best clan
based and feral-heartpilled
The Malk just freaks out like with Mr. Ox, which is fine. Again most people still probably didn't understand what it meant unless someone told them he was Caine. It's still pretty far from "yeah I'm Caine, Dark Lord and First Vampire, here to help you out youngling" like the other post says. I don't think Troika was ever going to do it that way because this is the first time someone has said that.
Literally DLC tier
Pfft, let's hope they forget the entire clan so we don't have to deal with these faggots diluting them more than v5 already has.
Rate the (mandatory) levels
PrimoGONE = Jump over the stairs and grab her by the neck > Uninvited fun with two half-naked brothers > aWARE about numbers > Don't BONE the guards > Quick in and out with a lady mcBoatface > some forgettable tower, maybe more
What did they do to gangrels in v5?
its like halfway through the Ventrue breakdown video, they say thats the system now but stress that its still in development
Just fucked their aesthetics and themes. Protean is also shit.
Sounds pretty bad. Though bloodlines 2 doesn't follow strictly v5 so there is some hope.
>oh man you're a Malkavian too? hahahahahaha
t-thanks Jack
And gay.
you're gay
I'd still rather they leave Gangrel out at this point. I don't really trust these guys to "take them back" so to speak.
Because he is old as fuck and bored
There is a 100% change they'll be a DLC clan, maybe released along with Season Of The Wolf.
>Top tier
Tzimisce
Nosferatu
Salubri
>High tier
Malkavians
Gangrel
Tremere
>Mid tier
Lasombra
Toreador
Assamites
>Low tier
Ventrue
Giovanni
>Bottom tier
Brujah
Setites
Ravnos
Chance? Sure, but that doesn't mean it will, and I was only commenting on if they should. Those are 3 separate things. The Wolf thing is obviously werewolves and most famous Lupine hunting Kindred are Gangrel, but there's no famous ones near Seattle anyway.
>that time andrei called deb for shits and giggles
For the same reason I respond to posts like these even though I'm over 35 and have been on Yea Forums for over 12 years.
>I knew Santino was going to have to go through all this and Fredo... well, Fredo was... But I, I never wanted this for you. I work my whole unlife, I don't apologize, to take care of my family. And I refused to be a fool dancing on the strings held by the Camarilla. That's my unlife, I don't apologize for that. But I always thought that when it was your time, that you would be the one to hold the strings. Senator Giovanni, Governor Giovanni, something.
It ended up spoiling a ton of shit for me like the twin sisters being the same person
Well I disagree with you because as a new malk the whole point of their madness is that you're trying to discern between the truth and the bullshit. The clues and answers are supposed to be confusing to you while they are being drip fed into your sub conscious.
Also playing a mall feels like you have a companion with you. Where every other clan dialogue is meant to be what your character is saying, the malkavian dialogue feels like you have a crazy partner speaking for you. It's very enjoyable.
I don’t get this
If it’s your first play though and you didn’t spoil anything like a bitch
It shouldn’t spoil anything that you couldn’t find out yourself with little brainpower
Was that seriously a spoiler for you? I feel bad... actually I don’t hah!
Just finished a malkavian playthrough, i don't get what all the hype is about. The wackiness made me cringe at times. I'd rather play a malkavian like Grout.
Same. I don't get the hype. There's people who won't buy the game if their fucking lolz so random fish malk clan ain't in it.
Hey Yea Forums, which clan has the best song at Succubus Club and why is it Assamite?
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I'd love if they did that in 2. Maybe they will since Willpower will be in. Make you use your willpower to keep from breaking the masquerade, or pissing someone off, by reacting to the voices in your head telling you they're trying to kill you.
Um sweetie I think you mean Tzimisce
>tfw Toreador with Malk bf
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They start talking about it at 29:00
What happens if you let the Taxi driver get you backup instead of going it alone?
Both of you are wrong, objectively, Ravnos have the best song.
She cute.
>Ravnos
Just like in everything else, Gangrel have them beat.
That's like asking Americans to just eat crickets and worms instead of burgers.
>bat has nipples
L-lewd...
How can you have Nos on one extreme of the chart and not have Toreador in the opposite extreme?
why is this the only non linear arpg with unpretentious dialogue, that guy is a brujah but since independent iconoclast is not a brujah thing anymore what would this type be now?
Florian said what I was thinking, they gave them quite a challenge with this temporary weapon system and has to be carefully balanced on a level to level basis.
*they gave themselves
>but since independent iconoclast is not a brujah thing anymore
lolwut. they're the same retards as always.
What gives you that impression? I only kinda see it.
I haven't bothered to watch all the streams. Did they explain why they decided to do that? Wanting to encourage a more melee focused combat maybe?
Crickets and worms are legitimate sources of protein, not a second grade substitute, which non-human (you cheeky fucks) animals are for Vamps. Animals legitimately don't sate the Beast as well. So it's not just a case of being picky like Kine are with bugs. It's more like not just eating fucking potatoes forever.
>Every minor problem a grain of sand, every night I inherit the desert
What the fuck does that even mean? Speak English you French bastard. No wonder the Camarilla are such a mess their goons can't even understand what their heads are saying, that is if they can hear them in the first place all the way up there in their ivory towers lmao
you just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time and got embraced by someone who was not only put up to it but also betrayed by caine/jack. you are the pawn mentioned in those emails.
caine usually doesnt care about the world around him but that doesnt mean he will not step in to fix wrongs done by his children. the whole conspiracy with the sarcophagus was to bring out every single faction that would use it for ill purposes and destroy them. by the end of the game youve destroyed (depending on who side with) the kue jin, the sabbat, and lacroix.
Alex is a professional actor, but he always plays monsters. Jasper only gets better as things go by and everyone besides Nelli gets played really well by season 2
If they retcon that shit it'll make no sense.
The malk ending, the ending in general, fucking looking at the guy with auspex, it cant not be Caine.
Melee weapons are also supposed to break, if you use them with super vampire strength.
They said they wanted to have a more action movie feel, where the hero tries to shoot and the gun only goes *click* *click* and he has to jump for another gun or punch a guy to get his gun.
I think it fits urban fantasy very well, but hard to pull of with a more open rpg and not something very structured like Super Hot.
How do bloodlines work in Vampire?
Is it
>All vamps have Caine's blood
>But all Antediluvian blood is different based on Caine's curse/blessing
>So each member of each clan has the same blood, more or less
>Kine blood is overwritten by Antediluvian blood for the most part in the process of becoming vitae
Is that mostly it?
They already did try to retcon it but their new idea of it being a Malk who thinks he's Caine was retarded. They should've just let it be its own separate story instead of trying to make everything canon.
He's already been retconned that part senpai. Jack used to be whispered as one of the few current kindred to meet Caine but now it was just a crazy malk.
Caine made 3 vamps then those 3 made 13 (possibly more) camps of their own, then 12 of those 13 overthrew and diablerized the 3 Caine made. Those are the antes. Then Caine got pissed and cursed each ante in one way or another which are (of course) the clan curses.
it's kindof implied there were more 2nd and 3rd gens than we know about, they just didn't survive the kerfuffle that made caine disgusted with his entire species.
reminder that the new bloodlines game is going to be shit and all vtm thread will be garbage afterwards
did you play the game? your mc isnt anything special. they were just a pawn being guided by caine/puppet-masters to fulfill a purpose and nothing more
Like I tried to argue before that retcon doesn't matter anymore, especially with v5 and bloodlines 2 coming out and all events from gehenna being retconned. And I think the vast majority, if not all people from White Wolf back then are gone. So you can make up your own mind.
Aye but they're not really pertinent to a basic explanation of the clans.
I think a lot of 2nd and 3rd gen were killed in gods flood, but supposedly the 13 survived. Nobody knows exactly. But caine was pretty pissed at his own creation from 3rd gen on.
It means every night more problems arise, it's pretty clear to me
And he has to deal with all of them.
even in this case though all 13 antes that survived came from Zillah, Enoch, and Irod. the rest that could have existed are inconsequential really.
The Malkavian route reveals that within the first 2 minutes of you talking to her, no build up or anything. I didnt even realize it was supposed to be a twist before I replayed
Maybe he should speak real fucking words instead of using metaphors like he owns the place
I really hope they're the 5th clan. I played brujah and then malk in the first game. I want to go in blind as a malk this time around.
user, his name is on the fucking building. he does own the place.
Shut the fuck up cammy
Iirc he was just being a drama queen, when he gives you tasks he explains pretty clearly
>Iirc he was just being a drama queen
i love the response where you can call him "captain dramatic"
Hope he comes back so I can kill him this time
>Brujah
Not even once
meh, even he knows jyhad doesn't matter in the end.
Mine is when you can call Strauss 'dad'
He's a treacherous faggot, Don't understand why Cain appears at the end near him.
so glad you can skip the tutorial, it's so long.
Compared with today games is very short.
I would wear the shit out of one of those sweaters
>treacherous
lmao like you're special or something. this nigga is a multi-century old pirate, he doesn't owe your character shit. you were a bludgeon from the get. at least he swings you at assholes.
Yeah, and that's why I wanna kick his ass
breh i don't think you understand how jyhad works. There's no such thing as a non-asshole vampire.