Why OLED technology is a HOAX

This is more of a /g/ thread than a Yea Forums thread but I feel like it has some Yea Forums undertones and it would get a much bigger result here.
In any case OLED TVs are by most considered to be the apex of image quality, mostly because of the insane color range their panels have compared to the more common LED panels, and that's because the way OLED TVs work is that they have individual pixels behind their panels which are either lighten up or completely shut down depending on the image. So the blacks appear VERY black, as if the TV is just off, while the bright tones are very bright. This is the biggest reason why this technology is so widely appreciated by many.
However it's not... that great when you look at it in a certain way. The technology suffers from the well known "burn-in" issue, which burns in part of the image in the display when it's turned on for long time. And this time is also cumulative. Very common burn-in examples are retentions of channel logos and videogame HUDs, for example.
But despite this issue being very crucial and important to consider when buying a new OLED TV (arguably the biggest reason to NOT buy one) that's not the issue I'm talking about.
Remember the part where I said that all these pixels can be individually turned off so that they can produce deep blacks? Well, let's say that these blacks can be VERY black. Unnecessarely black. Like you see an almost-black scene that has some kind of detail into it and the OLED makes these shadows look completely black, hiding these details in the process. Also content isn't exactly "tuned" for OLED TVs, but rather for LCD/LED TVs, and they behave by considering the latter in mind rather than the former. What happens is that, while OLED TVs are technically superior on paper, they lose some kind of image accuracy that is crucial for a HD panel.

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>OLED makes these shadows look completely black, hiding these details in the process
Sounds like those "photorealistic" GTA4 mods

>poorfag op bought inferior dated LCD technology and now has buyer's remorse.

Nobody cares about blacks

OLED is the future. Op is mad because he can't afford the best.

racist

Burn-in is and should be a concern to gamers. Fuck OLED, I'll never touch it due to that simple annoyance.

>t. plasma owning retard
The picture is absolutely amazing but the burns never heal.

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Not true. OLED has lowest input lag and highest color gamut. Two of the most important things for gamers. Go spread your propaganda somewhere else poorfag.

I don't have an OLED TV. I'm not sure if the tech is the same as OLEDs on phones but all of my Samsung displays tend to turn piss yellow over time. Also burn in.

Good thing OLED isn't plasma. Just because you can't afford it doesn't mean other people shouldn't be able to enjoy it's superior picture.

I play all the modern cinematic games on my plasma with the HUD turned off. Lots of modern games have dynamic HUD options. For example you can play RDR2 with no HUD except when you press the up button, IIRC

QLED is the future not OLED.

For the first part of your statement I have one word for you:
MicroLEDs.
Literally all the advantages of OLED without the O fucking everything up.
The rest of it isn't really a valid concern as you can either make sure the content is displaying properly on the display, or force the display to act like a backlit LCD display, with all the washed out colours from 'black' pixels never completely turning off, if you must have that "How the devs wanted it" experience.

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Thanks. Will avoid.

Why?

Because, while not having the same deep blacks or contrast of an OLED, it's a good alternative that is a major improvement over traditional LED and doesn't suffer from the burn-in issue.

That's not what burn in is.

they're LCDs with fancier backlighting bringing them close to OLED performance with none of the associated drawbacks.

Buyers who are considering an OLED TV sure do.

I know. What I was trying to say was my phone displays turned piss yellow AND got burn-in.

>They have burn-ins

I had a Plasma television my father bought for 2000 fucking euros and i was the first kid who had one in my class.
We had that shit for 8+ years and we had nearly nothing burned in and the image quality was suberb

>euros
lmao

>OP is afraid of rich blacks
Stay away from the South, white boi!

My vita and my samsung phone are both fine.

Same, had a pioneer plasma that I used as a PC monitor and I never had issues with burn in. I replaced it with an OLED and similarly have had no problems with burn in, image retention etc.
As long as you're reasonably sensible with your screen, you won't have issues.

BLM motherfucker

>RTINGS.com
The same website that rates gaming headsets higher than actual audiophile headphones?

>they lose some kind of image accuracy that is crucial for a HD panel
This is a problem that I have with many modern TVs. They push for fancy, flashy bright colors that look unnatural and oversaturated rather than more natural but more accurate tones. This is kind of my biggest complaint about modern TVs.

This is a little unrelated, but does anyone actually game or watch film/television with that horrible, smoothed out 'high refresh' shit newer TV's come with? What is the appeal of it?

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More like NLDM

How does BLACKEDRAW look on one of these sets?

Have you never played a game running at 60+fps
before?
That's basically what interpolation does, it doubles framerate by inserting in between frames. Unfortunately for games it causes significant input lag. Also high speed action scenes and some camera cuts look distorted.

>Also content isn't exactly "tuned" for OLED TVs, but rather for LCD/LED TVs
No, that's not how it works retard.
Content isn't "tuned" for anything.

That said, OLED is a stopgap solution until MicroLED comes out.

>QLED
You misspelled MicroLED.

Interpolation is shit currently.
Mark Rejhon of Blurbusters has talked about some groundbreaking lagless interpolation techniques that are currently being developed that will interpolate 60ps(and possibly lower framerates) to 1000fps laglessly without interpolation artifacts like the soap opera effect.

not only that but it looks absolutely terrible, especially since many modern games use motion-based tech like TAA, motion blur and checkerboard rendering which all look glitchy as hell with interpolation and make everything surrounded by ghosting artifacts

How the fuck would you interpolate a game?
You don't have the next frame. And if you do you can render it. Why the fuck would you interpolate between 2 old frames?

>without interpolation artifacts like the soap opera effect.
I wouldn't say that's an effect of interpolation, but of watching high-framerate live-action content in general. We are used to movies being 24fps. The Hobbit was actually filmed at 48fps and it still feels like it has the soap opera effect

to make it look smoother of course.
You don't have the next frame when interpolating a TV show or movie either.

Lg sk8100 or qled?

HD DVD is the future. KEKs need not reply

This is the average color of each frame frame Game of Thrones S08E03. Look at it on your computer monitor and then look at it on an OLED screen. On the OLED screen all the softer colors just become black.

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I typed CCK, but JANNIES just BTFO d me

You can't interpolate without having 2 frames to interpolate in between. Modern tv can preload and interpolate. It always has access to the next frame.

Fucking retard cope

Time for fortnight little jimbo
/thread BTFO

>why, yes, i picked up the first tv I found in the store without caring for stupid marketing mumbo jumbo, how did you know?

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how about configure your tv idiot and for the people saying oled and qled are the future its mircoled retards go do some research or play some games instead of shit posting

You sample the signal.
The trick is to do it fast enough(micro or nanoseconds fast) and do it correctly.

Have SEX
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yeah I guess you're right since video playback doesn't have to keep up with the players inputs. Ima dumb dumb

I'm doing this from my P30 and holy shit, that's true.

No there's definitely a difference.
You can watch 24fps@24hz on a CRT Monitor(which will be flickery as hell) and you'll still notice that the panning shots will be choppy anyways due to the low framerate.

Interpolating can mess this shit up making the panning shots look smoother than they originally were.

MicroLED and Uled XD will replace Oled.

Because OLED struggles in the transitions from pure black to near black.
Everybody has known this for years.

It doesn't. Are you still in 1990? You can even freeze the fucking tv and watch later. It can wait a second and it will stay ahead of the input stream.

Take your meds.

>dothraki secretly used shadow clone jutsu
>LED plebs didn't see it because of their shitty screens and complained about them being alive later

Fuck off with your cringey memes already you redditor piece of shit.
Reported.

>Take your meds.
cope

Nice mobile phone FAGGOT

It's pretty based for sports. Terrible for 24hz content though.

BURN IN and increased latency.. Stick to the low latency samsungs IMO. Burn in sucks, I have it on my panasonic plasma.

>increased latency
>I have it on my panasonic plasma.
based poorfag retard

>It doesn't.
that's what I said

Cope

I totally get why people are afraid of burn in, but it all depends on your use case. If you mix content, it's totally 100% fine. I play pretty much all the games I buy on console on an LG B7A and some of those titles I have hundreds of hours on. I have no visible burn in and I've checked plenty of times with test patterns because of how paranoid I was about it at first.

The key is mixing content. We use that same TV for media without static elements, probably 50/50 split between that and vidya. I certainly wouldn't buy an OLED TV to use as a PC monitor or to no life something like WoW with, but if you're going to use it as a general display it's going to be 100% fine.

VA>OLED>>>TN>>>>>>>>IPS

>Also burn in
go check micro dimming you dipshit

Fuck off OLED shill.
5000 dollars for a screen that isn't good at "displaying" without shitting itself is a shit investment.

Wait for MicroLED.
Fuck OLED and its legion of Apple/Steve Jobs-tier gayass fanboys.

>. On the OLED screen all the softer colors just become black.
I can see everything on an iphone oled as fine as on my ips and va displays.

In other words, cope.

Shitty opinions like yours is why Plasma TVs did dvdn through the image quality was far superior setting us back 5 years in image quality, Plasma was already doing shat LED was doing.

this is hilariously wrong, you must be blind or retarded. Or both.

>Well, let's say that these blacks can be VERY black. Unnecessarely black. Like you see an almost-black scene that has some kind of detail into it and the OLED makes these shadows look completely black, hiding these details in the process
You literally don't understand how HDR works do you?

VA is fucking terrible tho. VA has good black levels and doesn't suffer from IPS glow, but it does have its own glow issues that occur at even slight angles. Then, the response time between certain colours is atrocious, up to 30-40 ms even on high end VA screens.

TN is good in very specific scenarios, like if you have a monitor thats 24" max. anything above 24" and vertical colour/gamma shift WILL be a problem as its basically impossible to position the monitor in a perfect angle. For TV's, TN is basically unusable and hasn't been used ever.

IPS is best for monitors, if you can live with IPS glow. Its admittedly pretty annoying if you come from a VA or TN screen, but the advantages of IPS far outperform the other 2 panels. More accurate colours, TN-like response time between all colours, perfect viewing angles. The contrast is identical or better than TN too.

OLED will be amazing once the technology gets better. By far the best contrast makes it extremely impressive. As it can just turn pixels of display black. Cant get better than that. But the burn in is a real issue still.

Burn in isn’t an issue if you don’t have the OLED backlight constantly on 100 and there is a consistent moving image. Also oled tvs go to a screen saver after a couple minutes of activity and guess what, you can just shut the tv off when walking away from it and turn it back on when you return! No burn in!

IPS has absolutely terrible dark room performance. It triggers me royally. I love the viewing angles and colors but the glowing catches my attention so much that I can't use said panel technology

I have been playing games on plasma for years and there are burn-ins when there are static ui elements like health bars/ammo/borders. However, they disappear after a while when playing other games or watching movies. I also clean my screen for 10 min after I'm done watching/playing.

TL;DR OLED is GOAT
the problem is your
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Get a better console than this commiefornia kikepig infested turd

What about my CRT?

I have an oled vita and an lcd vita

I can assure you oled is not a hoax

CRT dabs on everyone and everything. That's why the jews killed it. It was too good for its own good and the kikepigs couldn't sell it for $2000 plus the newest meme like HDR or 3D

here's your IPS monitor bro.

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Here is your top end samsung and oled fren.

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That's the issue I was talking about in the OP.
How does such a technology get so much praise by self-acclaimed "critical viewers" if it doesn't even show you the most accurate image?

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>each frame frame Game of Thrones
KILL.YOURSELF.

I need a new TV. Like probably 70 inches at least for my living room. I've been reluctant to with all the bitching about OLED though.

>I AM NOT READING ALL OF THAT STUFF LOL

I have an 80" OLED TV for Yea Forums stuff and a 38" QLED monitor for Yea Forums stuff.

Best of both worlds. Watch planet earth on an OLED and you'll never, ever go back.

>yellow
Pretty sure you just turned on your "blue light filter" and forgot to turn it off like a dumbass. Also you only get burn in on the OLED screen if you turn the brightness up really high (like more than half) all the time. I have a samsung s7 and its been 3 years without any burn-in because I don't turn the brightness up and always use black OLED themes if possible.

Dual layer LCD shows a lot of promise but alas OLED is a superior technology that has made progress in mitigating burn-in and eventually will be solved enough. Reason OLED is superior is because of near instantaneous CRT like pixel response time. compared to traditional LCD panels OLED black depth and contrast is on another level. VA panels do a great job but OLED just blows it away. Anyone using an IPS or TN panel and thinks the black depth and contrast is sufficient shouldn't be allowed in front of a display device.

>STAX GOOD
Fuck off with your audiophile meme headphones they sound like shit.

im out of the loop but does most LED TVs use VA panels?

>Like you see an almost-black scene that has some kind of detail into it and the OLED makes these shadows look completely black, hiding these details in the process.
You're describing black crush, which is a known problem with any improperly calibrated display.

As of right now, the endgame of display tech (at least for the near future) is Microled, although viable consumer tech is still years away. ULED is a promising stopgap that would be make OLED a harder sell if it works as advertised.

t. samsung shill.

a QLED is just a brighter LED. it's completely different to an OLED and objectively worse. it's literally a marketing scam from samsung banking on the fact that Q looks a bit like O.

>most TV's use PWM
So glad I got a Sony TV before they too started adding this utter shit """""""""feature"""""""""" into their TV sets
PWM is a method for dimming the display. Problem is it causes motion artifacts and for many people myself included headaches and eye strain. It's different from simple strobing because it's not sync'd to the content being displayed and for this reason for some people myself included causes me headaches and eye strain. And yes this includes extremely high PWM frequencies and it doesn't matter how far away I sit from the TV. I can't believe they still use this shit feature on high end TV sets. OLED doesn't use PWM thankfully so in the future when I get a new TV hopefully OLED will improve more and I won't have to deal with this fucking awful PWM shit. Nearly every single decent desktop monitor uses direct current, PWM free these days thankfully at least the computer industry pays attention to these things.

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>burn in
Its easy to counter it by literally putting on a movie or tv show after a long game session. Annoying but its worth it. I would also point out my OG PSvita has a OLED screen and theres no burn in either despite me using it mainly for browsing this site. Your second point however is interesting. I would think with modern tech it has improved.

>t. Plays ps3/watches blu rays on a plasma

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OLED burn-in is way worse than Plasma burn-in.

Samsung said MicroLED is 9 years away from being viable as a TV sized display device much less anything smaller. Good luck ever getting that shit to be viable for a smartphone or monitor sized device.

You mean MicroLED.

>tfw all these faggos arguing about oled and ips
>mfw TN dell panel with perfect color representation, no crushed blacks, no crushed whites and perfect 2.2 gamma
>mfw it's also gsync compatible which means I can turn on ULMB and get crt level of response time
>no light bleeding around the edges
>no ghosting from improperly timed overdrive
>1440p because 4k is a meme for desktops

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also easy to counter by making the image shift a pixel to left or right every half an hour or so. something OLED tvs have had as standard since their conception. image burn on OLEDs is a meme. i worked in a shop where we had a 60 inch LG OLED on display. often a customer or someone demonstrating would leave it on a channel with a constant logo for hours, and there was never any issue with burn in. it's literally just samsung going reeeee because their QLEDs aren't in the same league.

TN is fucking garbage. Having better pixel response time than VA and IPS doesn't matter when you still see hideous motion artifacts. Having your ENTIRE DISPLAY look like fucking shit from hideous contrast and black depth is a lot worse than ever so slightly more pronounced motion artifacts on VA panel that you absolutely cannot see the vast majority of the time. And TN has the worst color shift of all display techs. It's the most garbage display technology ever invented. It's not even good for research purposes on high refresh rates because you can get >1000hz DLP projectors now. You're literally retarded if you buy a TN display in 2019.

Looks fine on my E8. You sure you aren't just braindead?

>TN has the worst color shift
How often do you play PC games on the floor user? This shit isn't relevant since your monitor should be straight on to your face 100% of the time. Even if you dual screen the secondary monitor should be to the side of your face, not sharing real estate.

Get the fuck out of here with your VA bullshit too. No one wants squished pixels that produce terrible to read text due to how improperly it handles anti aliasing.

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>How often do you play PC games on the floor user? This shit isn't relevant since your monitor should be straight on to your face 100% of the time.
That's not how color shift works you shit eating retard. If you literally move your head and eyes at all you experience it.
>No one wants squished pixels that produce terrible to read text due to how improperly it handles anti aliasing
That's not even a thing. There are three factors that will determine text legibility.
1. pixel density
2. screen coating
3. pixel matrix
VA panel can check 3/3 for legibility if it doesn't it's because they used some cocked up bullshit. TN frequently uses heavy AG coating and that will make text look like absolute shit along with everything else.

>he doesn't know VA has squished subpixels
Oops

It's about calibration apparently. According to RTINGS.com the LG E8 is one of the best "out-of-the-box" TVs out there apparently.

That's not an inherent problem with VA technology that is a decision by the display manufacturer on the type of pixel matrix used. Similar to claiming "TN is shit because of heavy AG coating" not a problem with TN but it's just a problem commonly seen on TN monitors because the display manufacturers choose to use that retarded bullshit.

My phone has no burn in and there are tons of static icons that never change

Cope

Ah yes the ultimate response of the perpetually wrong meme victim retard.

I've had a C7 for almost 2 years and I've yet to notice any burn-in despite many 12-16 hour sessions with a persistent HUD on the screen.

You're retarded because 90% of all panels have anti glare coating. Ips, VA and TN

My IPS monitor doesnt have this issue, then again I also didnt buy cheap.

Give it another 2 years. OLED has about a 4 year shelf life before the burn in starts happening. This may not seem like a big deal but most people will keep their TV for much longer than 4 years.

Do you understand that there are different types of AG coating? No you don't because you're a retard suffering from post purchase rationalization.

>Like you see an almost-black scene that has some kind of detail into it and the OLED makes these shadows look completely black, hiding these details in the process.
Sounds exactly like something VA does.

>Still propagating outdated information
Kill yourself OLED shill.
They already had a 75 inch 4K screen in CES.

ITT: user bought a cheap faulty TV and goes on a rant about technology

They have a 75 inch prototype made from hand stitched individual MicroLED. 75 inch is still way too big to be considered home ready use and it's not available for purchase. The smallest MicroLED you can buy is literally a wall sized display. It's common knowledge that a TV needs to get down to the 50 inch size range because these are the money makers. MicroLED is still a ways off from being able to be shrunk down to TV size much less desktop or smartphone if ever even possible.

I have never used VA panels so I don't know, but crushing blacks is a real concern for OLED TVs and for whatever reason it doesn't get much warning.

>They have a 75 inch prototype made from hand stitched individual MicroLED.
That's how MicroLED works idiot.
The seams have since then improved even further.

>75 inch is still way too big to be considered home ready use
LMAO get a bigger house poorfag.

It's hilarious how you obvious you OLED shills are.
OLED panels were only being sold on huge sizes for years and only recently started to go down in size and still no sub-50 inch TV screens out there.

>That's how MicroLED works idiot.
No, it isn't. That's a limitation due to having inadequate foundries setup to manufacture the devices.
>LMAO get a bigger house poorfag.
le epic meme reddit 10/10 xD
I use a bigger display
The average person, the people they make money off of, don't.
>It's hilarious how you obvious you OLED shills are.
You call me the shill but here you are trying to convince everyone of a far less proven technology with even bigger technological hurdles to overcome. top lel
>OLED panels were only being sold on huge sizes for years and only recently started to go down in size and still no sub-50 inch TV screens out there
Yes that proves my point. OLED is still early in its development cycle and it shows by the fact they're only offered in niche sizes. LG's next OLED lineup will feature 40-50" size ranges. Perhaps this implies they're comfortable with their performance to offer them to a non niche market.

>This kills OLED

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Can anyone here foresee and potential downsides to the ULED tech? It seems pretty promising to me.

>No, it isn't.
Yes it is.
That's why Samsung advertised it as being modular.

>Remember the part where I said that all these pixels can be individually turned off so that they can produce deep blacks? Well, let's say that these blacks can be VERY black. Unnecessarely black. Like you see an almost-black scene that has some kind of detail into it and the OLED makes these shadows look completely black, hiding these details in the process. Also content isn't exactly "tuned" for OLED TVs, but rather for LCD/LED TVs, and they behave by considering the latter in mind rather than the former. What happens is that, while OLED TVs are technically superior on paper, they lose some kind of image accuracy that is crucial for a HD panel.

Calibrate your TV, OP. Those blacks crush details in them because you didn't adjust the values in a way that the image correctly shows the source in the way it was meant to be. Not an issue of the technology when it's just about you being a lazy fuck who's not willing to toy with settings.

Even a burned in OLED has better screen uniformity than any FALD LCD

Ah yes modular I'll order me up some 24" 320x240 micro led's lel

The only reason OLED TV's are even a thing is because of LG being autistic.
Samsung released the best OLED TV years ago when they released that true RGB OLED screen and then saw that the technology was limited trash so they abandoned it in favor of MicroLED and Quantum Dot.

WOLED is fucking trash that only retarded faggots over at AVSForum gush over.

My Samsung s8 has clear burn-in after 1.5 years of use. It's only visible with bright colors but it's pretty annoying. The burn in is on the notification bar and navbar.

And QLED has vertical backlight banding

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You literally can if you have the money.

Samsung uses OLED on their flagship smartphones. It's quite clearly not trash to them or they wouldn't still be using it. They got out of the TV OLED game for monetary reasons.
>missing the joke this hard

Not him but you're wrong.
OLED has had this problem for years and they have still not resolved the problem fully.

>got out of the TV OLED game for monetary reasons.

It's because LG makes all the consumer grade OLED panels

>Samsung uses OLED on their flagship smartphones.
Ever wonder why they do that?
It's because people replace phones every fucking year now.

Samsung did it first before LG and they did it properly.
LG are the only who still make WOLED screens because they're autistic.

No they don't and it's why Smartphone market is drying up. I know more people with older generation Samshit flagships than brand new ones. I think only Apple has such loyal retards and they're definitely not committed to OLED anything so that argument doesn't work there either.

Because there wasn't really much of a reason to switch before if your TV wasn't broken. In recent years we got 4k, HDR, OLED and QLED. Soon we'll have MicroLED tvs. All good reasons to buy a new TV. If you're not a poorfag I'd recommend spending 1500-2000 burgers on a good OLED TV, it should last you long enough for affordable MicroLED tvs to hit the consumer market.

I'll stick to using my LCD monitor, thanks.

Hey guys not really reading the thread but just wnated to add my input

I have an LG OLED that was $3000

It burned in within 6 months. you have been warned. if you consume gaming content oled is not right for you

OP's thing about the blacks being too black is gibberish though, adjust the gamma you stupid nigger.

>No they don't
lol
In any case, using an OLED screen on a phone whose screen won't be active all the time compared to using an OLED screen for a TV or a Monitor which may be left on static content for hours on end is a completely different thing.

>adjust the gamma
Are you stupid or what?
That effects the rest of the image.

It has nothing to do with HDR, although HDR content makes the issue even worse.

>In recent years we got 4k, HDR, OLED and QLED. Soon we'll have MicroLED tvs
Dual layer LCD is far more interesting than any other display technology. Dual layer is so good that Sony abandoned OLED in favor of a dual layer LCD in their $30,000 broadcasting monitor.

Dual layer legitimately increases the contrast ratio by 100x. So if you have a dual layer IPS instead of having 1000:1 you will have 1,000,000:1. It also increases black depth similarly. You'll see black depth down to .002 IIRC. Dual layer also gets brighter and has better colors.

Hi-Sense may be coming to the market with a dual layer LCD tv at an affordable price. That shit's going to change the TV market if it does. OLED will have to solve burn in to compete.

>using an OLED screen on a phone whose screen won't be active all the time compared to using an OLED screen for a TV or a Monitor which may be left on static content for hours on end is a completely different thing
Smartphone has very much so static content and the amount of time people spend on their smartphones these days meets or exceeds computer use.

>plasma owning retard
Yes you are a retard, because you have several options to rekt that burn-in.
1)static, just turn the TV on to static overnight for a few days
2)the TVs included burn in reduction program, every TV has one usually just runs a pure white bar across the screen
3) YouTube pixel fixing videos they cycle through pure colors to burn the pixels evenly
Just give your plasma some tlc in the form of burn-in reduction every once in a while and as long as you dont have the TV in a room lit by the sun you will have no issues for a long time.
The real issue of plasmas is the dimming over time.

i dont think you understand how gamma works

Kill yourself, shill.

>afraid of burn in
>just turn off your tv once in a while and have sex
Easy

thats what they all say. and thats a 700 dollar monitor btw

>Finally stopped being a dumb cunt and updated my TVs firmware, now PS2 games don't look as bad as before

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This was an issue maybe 10 years ago. Not anymore. Unless you buy bad TVs, if those still exist.
Last time I had burn in problems was with a plasma TV, when HDTVs were just being introduced. Shit today is way more stable. If the TV isn't hot when you've been using it for hours then it probably won't cook the pixels onto the screen.

this

qled is just an lcd tv with a marketing buzzword created by samsung

If you're getting black crush on an OLED, you haven't configured it properly. Most of the time people have dynamic constrast cranked up which makes everything look more colorful at the expense of losing detail in dark areas

OLED produces the best image quality that is currently possible on a TV when configured properly. Once you see it you won't want to go back to backlit

>but crushing blacks is a real concern for OLED TVs
It's a concern that's completely grounded in how the TV is calibrated, not the TYPE of panel it is. ANY TV can have black crush if improperly calibrated, and OLED is no exception

It’s still possible if you use an OLED th as an PC monitor, it’s likely that the taskbar will burn in with desktop usage. But with mixed gaming/movie usage? Not a risk worth worrying about.

As someone who has calibrated multiple sets of OLED televisions, seconding this. Some of the older models have a bit iffy controls for adjusting the black point correctly (eg. moving settings from 50 to 51 made too huge of a jump at once), but it still was always possible to hit the proper target with a bit of work. Apparently, the newer models have better firmware that makes fine-tuning a bit easier.