GTA IV.......SOUL

That looks like literal shit and is the reason why there's so many graphical overhauls for the game. One of IV's major problems is the shitty washed out color palette. At least tbogt tried to fix it.

Why GTAV feels like everything in the game is made out of plastic?

Cause it's a soulless cashgrab.

Can you help me, then? All I want is smooth 60fps with normal graphics.

>GTAIV
everything is desaturated
>GTAV
everything is oversaturated

pick your poison

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The only saving grace for v is the mod the game and better performance. Other than that it's shit.

Honestly looks way more realistic than this Real life is not that brown.

GTA IV and use SweetFX or mods. I'm not a console peasant after all

It's fine, I don't know why everyone acts like GTA 5 is the worst game ever on Yea Forums

God i forgot how fucking ugly this game looked

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Cause it is.

literally the worst GTA ever, made me to never preorder anything again

Daily reminder.

Where the fuck did these zoomers who think GTAIV is a good game suddenly appear from?

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go outside once or twice if you think that is oversaturated

>IV
>zoomers
Wew lad.

This. Fucking zoomers and their ""nostalgia""

Is there still no way to get this to run smoothly on PC?

At least it had one 'till dey fucked errythang up.

Get a load of this fucking retard, V is literally aimed at low iq zoomers.

Based, V zoomers will never understand how kino IV was.

It's cause in order to feel vindicated in saying GTAV is bad brainlets have to point at previous games and go "muh quality" rather than making an argument.

Same thing happened when GTAIV released and all these faggots latched on to San Andreas like it was some swan song of the series slain before it's time.

Also Crowbcat made a cherry picking video like he does for those views from the v/core

The same shit was said for IV. V will get the IV treatment when VI drops. If you were older you'd have lived long enough to see this happen all the time.

The only ones who like it are contrarian zoomers whose first GTA was IV, or contrarian zoomers who played the original trilogy but were too young to understand what made them so special.

If that was the case then people would say the same shit about III, SA and VC. Also VI is going to be worse than V if it does come out.

IV was way more soulless than San Andreas, stop being a nostalgiafag.

Holy fucking cringe.

fuck yeah nigga

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Simmer down, zoomer. We all know you just played GTAIV as a kid and clapped when you did things with the ragdoll physics.

He's right you know

>IVfags are zoomers now
Is this the new hottest meme being forced on Yea Forums? Please feel free to go back to your discord.

nope

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>omg guise gta v is fucking awesome! fuck gta 4!

Does every obscure opinion have its own discord now? The fuck? I'm just saying that compared to Vice City and San Andreas, GTA IV felt bland and soulless. It also removed all of the fun cheats and the jetpack. Soulless.

>contrarian zoomers who played the original trilogy
stop falseflagging you dumb zoomer

>It also removed all of the fun cheats and the jetpack. Soulless.

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>oh how i love having nothing to do outside the campaign missions

>obscure opinion
Sure thing bub, also IV may have not been as good as the ps2 trilogy but it still has way more soul than the cancer that is V.

the pic is so true, and it's fucking hilarious. we all KNEW this would happen.

>Also VI is going to be worse than V if it does come out.
Exactly why V will vet the IV treatment you dumb fuck. Goddamn

RDR2 was amazing. GTAVI will be great if they give it the same care.

This. Idk why this meme is so fucking prevalent on this site. GTA IV almost feels like a fucking tech demo or some shit there is so little to do. V is objectively the superior game. The only thing IV has on it is the car deformation and some of the physics. And even then you have to remember V and IV were made for the same consoles, so there is a reason some of that shit was probably tuned down.

True. also lmao at the pimples in the bottom panel.

Lol no, V was already shit from the start and VI will not make that change.

Campaign missions which are almost all the same and are all inferior to SA

>implying fun, wacky cheat codes aren't the epitome of SOUL
I used to print out cheat codes for San Andreas and spend hours just fucking around next to a friend in Los Santos without even doing any missions. Then IV came out, and it was fucking dull besides the decent missions. You finish the story then put it away and never play it again.

>every mission need to be CUHRAZEEE for my retarded zoomer brain
this is literally the reason gta v sucks ass

Zoomers never played IV, V is literally babby's first GTA nowadays.

>Everything grey and boring
>Soul

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just don't make it a depression sim which gta 4 is

V missions aren't even "cuhrazeee" they just become boring and repetitive after the first heist. Protagonists are shit too.

but GTA4 was the first game in the series that didn't have a SOUL, it was a fucking tech demo

>RDR2 was amazing
soul

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Is that why Yea Forums never talks about it anymore?

The brown represents the taste of the people who think GTA IV is good.

there's threads up all the time for it kiddo

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Jesus fuck the Brown Green Grey Grunge is old enough to be nostalgic for some people

Except there was more to do than the campaign missions. Better police AI, combat and causing chaos on a small scale using car bombs and escaping in subways also made for more interesting chases. What can you do with a tank other than blow shit up?

RDR2 is the worst game Rockstar have made since Red Dead Revolver, and that was shit. I couldn't believe how boring and needlessly obstructive it was. I probably should have seen it after V

you had to go small scale because the map was fucking tiny
muh ai doesn't make it more fun

>once in a blue moon amidst the constant cancerous smash and e celeb threads
Ftfy.

>Not playing as a nigger
>Downgrade

liberty city is till the best city ever created in a game

Why do Rockstar have such a hard-on for highly scripted missions? Do they not remember that the series is supposed to be a sandbox series?

You’d think they’d try to make the series more like Hitman or Deus Ex rather than making the campaign a series of Uncharted style missions.

>tiny
IV’s map is bigger than SA’s.

>muh AI
AI is a legitimate reason to prefer IV. The moment to moment gameplay and mechanics are more satisfying.

This, IV did a great job at capturing the atmosphere of NYC.

>RDR2 is the worst game Rockstar have made since Red Dead Revolver, and that was shit. I couldn't believe how boring and needlessly obstructive it was

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Now this is how you recognize a zoomer.

Rdr 2 was fine, it's the online that sucks cause it's just more of the same grinding and micro transaction bullshit from V.

>GTA IV's map is tiny
Holy shit user. You stopped playing Vice City because the brigdes were close by the storm?.

Post better games than RDR2.
I'll start.

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Oh shut up. Stop trying to derail the thread

Nice peasant quality game you got there

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no, i loved vice city, at it's time it felt huge

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>You’d think they’d try to make the series more like Hitman or Deus Ex
>You'd think they'd copy another dev instead of doing their own thing that's proven to more successful

Fucking idiot

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>he wants his gta to look like a gtav YouTube thumbnail
use the contrast and saturation sliders then you dumb brainlet

Why is that orange tint so pleasant on the eye to look at?

We now live in an era where zoomers defend early 2010's brown, grey and bloom

Was GTA IV peak zoomercore?

All GTA games are good. Rockstar hasn't made a bad game in over a decade.

Except the SP was fucking great. They are finally expanding upon the depth. Which is why most normies and other brainlets like yourself hated it

Name better theme
youtube.com/watch?v=xh40QxwZz7Q
you can't

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True, but V is the weakest of the 3D games. It’s a 6/10.

youtube.com/watch?v=xzH7h465MMM
Dumb zoomer.

Ehh. Not that user, but in my opinion its a toss up between IV and V. But considering the hardware those games were developed for i can give a little slack. It seems like they were getting back into form with RDR2

Except Red Dead Revolver was fun, you collossal queermosexual

GTAV is the most popular while GTAIV is the least popular. Now I know that doesn't necessarily show the level of quality of each game, but Yea Forums's contrarian nature means it has to hate V and love IV.

>make shit textures
>cover it up with brown 'n' bloom
Wow, showed me. GTAIV is a visual masterpiece. And no, GTAV didn't invent "color." Try playing any other video game ever made.

i got legot eye strain from looking at the second image zoomed in

Only good thing in gta III was MSX FM

>They are finally expanding upon the depth
By making the gameplay a cutscene as well with endless horse riding journeys? Or taking out player control in favour of endlessly filling bars and micromanaging pointless cosmetic features?

Nice meme, V is peak zoomercore.

...Less

Tanned chads and leather daddies?

V isn’t that fun to mess around with in the sandbox due to the mechanics being dumbed down more than necessary. IV’s a lot of fun to just mess around with and has arguably the best story in the series.

I’ve not played RDR2 due to V putting me off it.

It wasn't even the best radio station, let alone the best thing about the game.
Just listening to the game's music on Youtube doesn't make your opinion worthwhile, dumb zoomer.

They're both zoomer trash.

An underrated choice coming through
youtube.com/watch?v=J0_LIU8EUcE

>normgroids
>not eating up cinematic cowboy "experiences"
K E K
E K
K

>screenshot is at sunset
>sunlight is at golden hour
>everything is burnt orange
>"WHAT THE FUCK EVERYTHING IS BROWN"

retard

Just not true.

but gta4 doesnt have any bloom
cope zoomer

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because OLD GAME GOOD NEW GAME BAD

Not an Argument

this is actually quite accurate. Been here since arond GTA 4 came out and the turn people made on it just because 5 is more popular is fucking hilarious

You're a fucking retard. Saying that IV is shit doesn't imply V is good. What an incredible fucking brainlet

And zoomers think VI is going to be good.

nice spacing

Nice strawman. If the only compliment you can give to GTAIV is that it's better than GTAV, you know your game is shit. It's like the cripples fighting the retards.

>oversaturated
What? That looks like a typical sunny Californian day. GTAV has pretty natural colors for the different kinds of weather. GTAIV looked like brown and grey shit even on the sunniest of days

Color = bad, how dare they have customization options.

All the bottom picture is saying is that Online is shit, which it is. But that says nothing of GTAV's singleplayer, which is much more fun than GTAIV's.
>hurr but GTAIV has the better story/characters!
If you play games for the story may I suggest killing yourself? Modded GTAV is the best singleplayer GTA experience you can have in 2019.

>V is peak zoomercore
>with arcade style driving
Do you put thought into your insults or do you just go with the latest meme mindlessly like a true zoomer?

GTA V was just so shit when it came to writing and characters. GTA IV was more like the Sopranos than a straight faced crime game, I prefer that by miles than the gimmick characters we got in V.

Guess how I know you're a newfag, zoomer?

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There's a saturation slider in the options: it starts at a middle ground. Filling it makes the game basically as bright as GTAV: depleting it makes the game Lost and Damned.

Honestly pretty good depiction of the difference between the 2.

If 6 gets more crazy its going to be just like the difference that I'd compare between GTA and Saints Row. Which is terrifying.

it's about atmosphere only gta 3 and 4 are dark
3 have bad gameplay though

How did this war between GTAIV and GTAV even start? Was it that dumb crowbcat video that cherry picks examples of GTAIV having details that GTAV doesn't? Am I even allowed to like both games anymore? GTAV is a little better if you don't have mega autism about things like muh pushing people down stairs and wannabe realistic boat driving.

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the GTAV characters are completely one-dimensional cancer cutouts
Lel le edgy wicked psychopath who murders casually and says fuckwords
Dude the 80s action movies lmao
Black man
and a ton of boring and repetitive missions that also suck due to the atrocious and robotic ai of the police and enemies, not to mention just ripping off a ton of Michael Mann movies but far worse
And V has worse radios

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GTA 3 was amazing and came out over 15 years ago and was the greatest game at that time.

GTA isn't necessarily about being dark. VC moved away from the dark vibe of III and it's a favorite to this day. I bet if Yea Forums existed when VC was released, old jaded faggots would be shitposting about how much better III is and how terrible VC is just because it's newer.

Dark Souls is grey and boring

>at that time.
exactly

>I’ve not played RDR2 due to V putting me off it.
Such a fucking dumb thing to do. If people lived with logic like that they wouldn't like anything. Even though I objectively think GTAV was good, if we were to go off your assumption that it's bad and we shouldn't play Rockstar games in the future, then that same logic can be applied to every other developer. All of them has "fumbled". If we're supposed to judge one fumble and not allow them to redeem themselves then like I said earlier, you shouldn't be buying or playing any new games from any dev.

>with arcade style driving
Arcade games are zoomercore

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And surprise, Dark Souls is ugly as fuck.

>one dimensional characters
>hasn't come close to describing each character's personality and values
Please tell me you are one of those idiots that spent thousands of dollars on an English degree and yet still can't analyze a character worth a shit and automatically assume they are one dimensional because someone likes to kill people.

>Was it that dumb crowbcat video that cherry picks examples of GTAIV having details that GTAV doesn't?
Yes

>boring repetitive missions

Are we talking about IV? Every single fucking mission in GTAIV is "drive to dot on map and shoot dudes". Saying this about V while defending IV shows that you're a delusional fucking faggot. GTAV has boring missions too, but there are a lot more unique missions in it than in IV. One of the only standout missions in IV is the heist and V had 5 heists, plus a dozen or so other missions that break away from the typical formula. Also I never said the characters in V were good, I'm saying that prioritizing anything story-related over gameplay is retarded. I agree about the radios though. GTAIV had much better music.

So your going to compare the Atmosphere of 3 and 4 but complain about gameplay of a game that had 2 new GTAs in between and was on previous gen Console.

Not really fair, but Yea Forums never is.

I think people underestimate how much SR2’s success retroactively damaged GTA as a series. Rather than continuing with the clear artistic vision they set out in IV and offering something that was different to SR, they instead decided to basically mimic SR.

It's a retarded comparison. The IV part focuses on the singleplayer and the V part focuses on the multiplayer. Why compare the SP of one game with the MP of the other? Cherry picked bullshit, as with every other GTAIV vs GTAV comparison.

i really want to install GTA4 again but get a good modding experience this time. are there any sort of total conversion assassination mods?

Life isn't fair
GTA 4 is playable 10 years from release and probably will be forever
GTA III in 2011 was clunky and now is even worse

Sad how the opinions of so many retard here are unironically dictated by e-celebs

Trevor is offensively one-dimensional and the equivalent of a Rick and Morty character or any number of "edgy and funny" characters who have no purpose outside of being "edgy" and "funny"
Michael is a boring "Man I've escaped from crime and the fucked up nature of my profession but rich white people problems drive me to jump back in and also muh dick and ego" standard that Bojack horseman faggots love but was done best in the movie Sexy Beast
Franklin is a goddamn blank, constantly exasperated and complaining at his situation but always willing to continue his path
None of them are at all interesting
I didn't say IV had good missions, most of all the mainline missions in the GTA franchise are shit, and it's more about what you can do in the world and interact with it that has drawn me into the franchise. GTAV, in my opinion, is a step back in these departments and a fucking mile-backpeddle in terms of emotion and character, and this is without the technical nitpicks
None of the heists are good

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>fortnite
>arcade style
I know being as young as you are, you may have never had the chance to step into an arcade so I'll try not to be too harsh. To put it simply, fortnite isn't an arcade style game. Whacky=/=arcade. My second job growing up was actually in a funpark with an arcade. We used to frequent it a LOT when I was a kid and is why I'm awesome at those coin drop machines.

>GTA 4 is playable 10 years from release and probably will be forever
More due to the fact games have been mostly the same for 10+ years now

>I’ve not played RDR2 due to V putting me off it.
Play it. I was worried for the same reasons but RDR2 blew my expectations away

>fortnite isn't an arcade style game
Yeah it's real military simulator, up there with Arma
lmao

>Trevor's relationship with those around him is only based around being edgy and funny
So did you not lay the game, not pay attention to the game, or just a complete idiot? Just because YOU only pay attention to a single aspect of the character does not mean he is one-dimensional.

No it's just garbage

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Until revenue and sale's stop increasing that isn't going to change.

Always hear people talking about how their game play is out dated. Not going to say that's not true. But when you're outselling the competition, making billions and getting exceptionally high praise why would you stop?

>tfw this thread is giving me the urge to play IV again but I know it will never be the same because jewstar gimped out on royalties and removed half the iconic soundtrack

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While i agree it compares SP to MP, rockstar is to blame.

IV focused on SP and SP content, MP was an added bonus with Lost and BOGT dlc.

V has been gimmick added MP content focused on trying to get more Micro transactions and no thought of any single player content.

You mean the single most intense facet of the character? The one that basically is the backbone of every single action and line he has in the game? His beef/jealousy of Michael doesn't vindicate any of the other one-note psychosis of his writing
He's beyond shallow, he's shallow but faggots think a single additional detail makes him less so
There are mods to fix that

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I honestly think V would have been better if the 3 MCs had their own fleshed out campaigns in DLC.

>V has been gimmick added MP content focused on trying to get more Micro transactions and no thought of any single player content.
We got a new game from them that had 60+ hr or so campaign (RDR2). I'd rather get new games then SP DLC

>My only choices are gimped console version or broken PC version

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The heists weren't great because GTA missions are usually too scripted for their own good, but it was miles ahead of 99% of the missions in GTAIV, automatically making it the better game. I truly don't care about emotion and character in a fucking GTA game. Sure, I appreciated it in GTAIV, it was okay, but that's not what I buy these games for. I buy them for the fun they can provide me and GTAV simply offers a lot more fun than GTAIV. Niko keeps preaching about trying to be a better man but then screams "get out of the fucking way" while running a dozen innocent people over on his way to do a mission. The freedom you have as a player takes away from the attempted grimdark approach to the story in GTAIV because there will always be a dichotomy between the two. The whole point of the game is for Niko to make some money for him and Roman but then in the end when you have a couple hundred thousand bucks there's nothing to spend them on. The only side activities in GTAIV were a half-baked bowling and darts minigame. Meanwhile GTAV has
>skydiving
>golf
>tennis
>jets
>hunting
>monster trucks
>triathlons
>buying vehicles of all kinds online
>extensive weapon customization
>extensive vehicle customization
>much more in depth character customization
>buying properties
>the same shitty darts game from GTAIV

Not saying all those activities are fantastic additions to the game but they're miles ahead of what GTAIV offered, which was almost nothing.

just play 1.0.7.0. then
you're not a console shitter are you user?

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Just pirate it you fag. Cracked copies still have the full original soundtrack.

other way around for me

Again, you are mixing up arcade with whacky. What exactly do you think "arcade style" means user? Regardless of your answer, it means it plays like an arcade game. Mortal Kombat is an arcade game. What properties would you say MK and Fortnite have in common user? Also why are you simplifying things into being either arcade style or sim? Even worse, some arcades even have simulators in them... I mean, your "real military simulator" comment makes absolutely no sense. Please elaborate.

>brown n bloom era of games is now considered "soul"
Back to fortnite, zoomie.

Because normies, reviewers included, eat that fucking shit up. Calling a game a "cinematic experience" is a compliment everywhere except on Yea Forums. People unironically want their games to be as much as movies as possible, and Rockstar is giving the vast majority exactly what they want.

are you implying gtav's dogshit boring driving mechanics are "arcade like" in the same way as Daytona's 4-2-4 drifting mechanics, or IDAS brake cancelling or eraser technique?
You're a fucking retard

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Ultimately I think the best way I can articulate my opinion on five vs four is going to be completely inadequate
Four to me is a living world with people in it and some good atmosphere
I enjoy nearly every second I'm in the world
Five to me feels like an empty level with a bunch of minigames and bad writing
I despise the storyline missions and all the side stuff has no impact on free play and is really boring
Likewise five short heists don't automatically redeem the other tremendous amount of bad missions and mandatory boring sidemissions
It's not broken if you fix it user
You dummy

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bro, I can't take this reply seriously 'cause you're just dead wrong from the first sentence. Trevor is not a 1d character, he's very much hidden 3d. If you wanna get into it there's a buncha psychological shit and masking feelings to hide his true feelings etc, but all of this has apparently gone over your head and for that I can't keep reading your reply.

>3D
>releassd on 7th gen
>tries to be as realistic as possible
absolutely soulless, I hope to god you're baiting, op

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>The one that basically is the backbone of every single action and line he has in the game?
The biggest focus he has in the game is on being betrayed. Again, did you actually not play the game, not focus on the game, or just a complete moron?

See you in 4 more years then user.

that leg is not anatomically correct with the rest of the body

genuinely looks better

I hate the ICEnhancer mod. And the game crashes it I try to use ReShade. Is there any way to inject some AA into this game, anons? I dig the vanilla look but it's jagged to fucking hell even in 4K.

>retards complaining about muh grey and brown
>it takes place in New York
are you niggers serious?

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>brown
GTA IV is supposed to be early 2000's user, the place wasn't full of disgusting illegal spics back then

>the pic is so true, and it's fucking hilarious. we all KNEW this would happen.
>This. Idk why this meme is so fucking prevalent on this site
>also lmao at the pimples in the bottom panel.

Why do GTAVfags type like zoomers?

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Psychobabble doesn't justify that kind of character to me, it's a very cheap way of going "Hey this character has trauma, he's not JUST a cartoon!"
And much of his backstory is so incredibly edgy-contrived that it still comes off as though he's not even a real person but a very specific archetype/caricature that was injected into a world that's supposedly got real humans
Niko at least was trying to change/find a new life
Trevor just wanted to keep the ball rolling and murders a bunch of people just because
The whole "I had a bad life so that justifies me being absolutely bonkers and evil" isn't in any way interesting to me

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isn't there a lot of spics and niggers in the gta 4 campaign, been a while.

GTA IV is literally about killing immigrants

never ever pcman

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Only it was, you just didn't notice them because you weren't even alive then. Try again, zoomie.

Stupid Malaka!

actually having looked the statistics up that place hasn't been properly white in like half a century, wtf? all the movies I watched of it have been a lie :^(

holy fuck "reddit spacing" fags irreparably btfo

>we'll never get car chase kino again

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meme meme meme meme. shut the fuck up

COLOR BAD
BROWN AND BLOOM GOOD

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>gta2
>daytime screenshot

Into the trash it goes

Okay so I have no clue where you are trying to go with this conversation. You are making idiotic comparisons, seem to think only a single arcade game exists as long as it supports a strawman you seem to be fighting, and ignore questions. Fuck, if you want to bring up Daytona USA, then feel free to explain how Fortnite and Daytona USA are the same. Are you not even paying attention to the reply chain? Is every post you make an attempt to say something that has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with any other replies? Fuck it, don't respond. I don't want to see how off topic you get with your next reply.

youtube.com/watch?v=4Y227D1u0o8

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tell me where i mentioned fortnite

>GTA IV
>dark as fuck
>all characters are depressed, self-hating fuck ups
>multitude of ethnicities and gangs, especially ones that are rarely depicted in popular media
>base game + add-ons, no microtransactions
>GTA V
>capitalism is still shit
>"PLEASE buy a shark card!"
>uh here's that thing you liked in San Andreas
>Michael is the only character with a fleshed out background story
>didn't even bother adding any single player content

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I'm a zoomer and I bought IV the year it was released

>especially ones rarely depicted
Such as?

The only unique one I can think of that they touched on was the Jewish Mafia.

GTA IV car chases are all the same. Follow the person at a moderate speed. Don't try to hit his car before it breaks down by itself. The enemy can do impossible drifts.

I remember skipping GTA IV because the PC port was shit. Is that still the case?

>The enemy can do impossible drifts.
lol git gud

>follow the person at moderate speed
>not driving as fast as you can
i bet you're the faggot who just wants to instantly blow up the car with a sticky bomb instead of enjoying the car chase and doing skids

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>Can't complete the final mission without limiting your framerate to

Y'all some funny ass niggas is all I'm sayin lmfao

Irish Mob/Bratva?

It’s a continuation of the cancerous trend SA started where you can’t destroy a car in advance with appropriate set up. Granted, IV had some instances where you could bypass or shorten chases, but it became even more scripted in V

B R O W N

V by FAR

Old mafia flicks focus on micks a lot. It’s kind of expected for a crime story set in NYC. Even Mafia 2 had an Irish mobster as an antagonist.

Refer to >b-b-but I'm a new user
If you can't follow reply chains and continue the flow of the conversation then you are more of an idiot than the original user. Please don't use this as an excuse for your ignorance.

>gta 4 car physic is good
get a driver's license lmao

>Yea Forums is just one person

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Wait wtf am I seeing here? Why does the car look like it is about to flip over from slight adjustments in driving angle? Is that the most you can turn the car at that speed? I thought this game was supposed to be the most "realistic" of the GTA games.

>good = realistic

lol!

Played all GTA since GTA2 and IV + VC are my all time favourites. If you hate on IV I don't think you understand how a step up that was from the previous formula and how incredibly "next gen" this shit was when it came out.

>completely missed the second part of the post
I'll say it one more time. Being too idiotic to follow a reply chain that you are replying to does not make you a smart person. Fuck zoomers...

it's also unrealistic lmao

its almost as if it prioritises fun over realism
you know, like a video game

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okay

>its almost as if
Reddit

>prioritises fun over realism
What is fun about not being able to turn a vehicle? I mean, your videos look stiff as all fuck... In fact, it looks like an even worse version of 3D sonic games. Seems like they even had to make things a bit easier to dodge to make up for the fact that you can't turn much in the game.

>What is fun about not being able to turn a vehicle?
Learning to git gud at it.

why do zoomer-hipsters like gta iv?

it's fun and looks great in 4k :)

>what is fun about game mechanic
>what is fun about manually aiming instead of pressing autoaim button
>what is fun about playing game instead of watching game
kys zoomer

>it prioritises fun over realism
...So like every other game in the series does, including 5? Your arguments don't even make sense.
GTAIV fans pride the game being the most realistic in the series, yet the most fun part about it is it not being realistic?

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>Learning to git gud
But what I just saw in both vehicles shows a lack of difficulty user. If you can't do sharp turns then the game is dumbed down to allow it to be handled with minimal input. I mean, what you showed me is the OPPOSITE of impressive. I was thinking about giving IV a try but IDK if I want to anymore...

>5 priorities fun over realism
yeah because cars behaving like freecam and having no momentum or physics on them is fun

Yeah you sure are good at watching someone else pull it off ;)

>what is fun about manually aiming instead of pressing autoaim button
I'm 32 years old user. The first second I can pause a game and look at menu options I automatically look for turning off any autoaim options. You are barking up the wrong tree and making the other user look bad by associating with him. Please give up replying now so he can do a better job defending himself.

Can't wait to play this on PS5 along with MGS4

Very strange seeing people calling a game as new as GTA IV "boomer".

That looks like real life to me, and I'm a credible source because I went outside once.

and yet you made that argument, curious.

2008 was 60 years ago

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Isnt that a screenshot of the 360 version running on a Xbone X? I swear my game looks better on my pc.

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Red Dead Redemption 2 is better than any GTA

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IV bad because cars arent stuck to ground

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Nigga it's set in 2008

IV bad because cars arent stuck to ground

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After pulling off complex things in video games, yes I can appreciate the difficulty of pulling something off and can usually tell something is difficult by watching it. One constant through games though is that the more precise controls are, the easier the controls are. Aiming is easier at slower speeds. Driving is easier with more precise controls. Again, the video shows slight changes in direction which means controls are more precise and to make matters worse, it looks like the way others drive and people walk are designed with that in mind. Yes, it can be harder than it looks, but it would take a miracle for it to spike in difficulty well beyond what I'm seeing.

IV bad because cars aren't stuck to ground

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HIT THEM HARD

You creating a strawman is not the same as me making that argument. Again, please give up and let that other user make his own defense. You are just hurting him with your idiocy.

>gta 4 driving is reali-
youtube.com/watch?v=BxiNgI8avR4
youtube.com/watch?v=U_aDUFdPh7c
lmao the suspension is way too soft

yes because your head stays perfectly aligned with the horizon when your car leans side to side

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Why is it so low res? you playing this on a computer from 2005?

How do I run this shit at all? I dont want to go through the entire MVSCP.DLL error 2000 mess, I bought it on Steam while it was on sale. I expect them ti reprimand it.

>he doesnt have a winxp machine and CRT for old games
>he stretches out old games to resolutions they werent designed for on a shitty ultrawide LCD monitor
kys zoomer

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camera has attached to car

I won't disagree because I don't think I've played the game enough to form an opinion on it, but I do know for a fact that the driving was absolute dog shit, and having to input cheats through the fucking CELLPHONE made it the worst GTA so far.

Does GTAIV offer a good representation of Jew York?
What are the best graphics mods for it?

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Imagine a GTA game except every car handled like this.

No wait, that's GTAIV.

Staten Island isn't that well represented.

You don't get the really residential parts of Brooklyn or Queens.

No Long Island.

Don't use mods your first play through, except the ones that patch in the original soundtrack.

GTA3 is early 2000s

>original soundtrack
???

It's a damn shame we didn't get Liberty State. According to an interview Dan Houser thought it was "too big" and "MMO-like" when he first saw it.
>and now we have the grindfest that is GTAO

I really just care about Manhattan.

>first play through

My first playthrough is my only playthrough.

The licenses for several songs have expired and have been removed from the retail version.

Just use mods to get money in gtao lol

i mean that's pretty much how queens/bronx look. just shitty old brown buildings and the whole place is a shithole.

Not them but i never had an issue with driving in gta iv, it promotes more skilled turning and using the hand brake and either spinning out or hitting the turn.

Makes a perfect drift so much more satisfying.

RDR2 is boring as shit and a step back from the first one on every level except technical

Simpsons: Hit & Run - GTA edition

I went back to playing GTA IV because I never finished it when it first came out.
The story and the charcters are better but the gameplay is even more repetitive than the other GTAs, literally just go there are shoot people. The story overall is better but playing the actual missions is not fun.

>if a car doesn't turn 180 degrees instantly while going 100mph the game is bad
based retard

>GTAIV
>Soul

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But what about the craziness of other drivers and pedestrians on the road? Maybe those videos posted are bad examples, but the game looks like it is dumbed down to make up for your driving. They seem more formulaic an concise in their movement than other GTA games.

Pay attention to the other posts. I'm not going to give you a satisfying response when you want to post a strawman.

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>All that soul
Looks fun

Notice how the game rewards you for doing that? It's intended.

You wanna talk crazy!? Have you played V?

The drivers in 5 literally turn into you, can be going 150 mph and pedestrians will turn into a head on collision with you.

Don't know what you mean by dumbed down for your driving.

I'm 22 and I started with GTA 3. Lot of my friends did. Does not matter that it was not the newest GTA at the time, pirating was not that easy back then, older games were less expensive and more likely run well on your pc.
I would willing to bet the people who make these stupid zoomer/boomer memes are younger than 20. This site got worse than tumblr when it comes to dismissing opinions due to some retarded reason

>SoulGraphics/Saturation/Color
Nope everyone who says that is trolling, a redditard, or both. Its about story, setting and character charm. Graphics are secondary in all cases.
Also, story, setting and character basically required this game to be bleak and depressing.
>After reading this, still wants a GTA4 that has fucking sunshine and rainbows.

>doesn't know there was a cheat shortcut on the phone after you dialed the #

Based

>drivers in V are crazy
Yes, that is the staple about the game I am talking about. Drivers and pedestrians are designed to be a nuisance. If you don't like that in GTA, you should literally be playing any other series. This is something that is purposely programmed into the game. Saying the game is pretty calm is meant to be a bad thing, not a compliment.

VC > all

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So I've seen some place some dude had put some gta v footage through deep learning footage to convert to real world footage, whateve is called, you know those AI shit. An the the result looked like gta iv. Made me realize that the colorful shit is not realistic thats why rockstar went with the less saturated look.

Thank you user.
One of the rare sane posts I've read on this board in the past few years.

I do know that, but having to navigate to that shit while you're being shot at is crap. You can't even get to the phone when you're swimming, so you're fucked there, and you're fucked if you misclick the buttons to take you to the cheat menu. It's much better to have the same cheat code scheme in every other GTA game.

If that picture looks oversaturated to you get your monitors checked. Lot of people turn up the saturation/vibrance in their settings only later to complain about everything being oversaturated.
I'm using a properly calibrated wide-gamut monitor and GTA V has incredibly nice colors but without the oversaturation. it is the best example of it by far. Just ride into the sunset in GTA V and you can even in those condition, it does not turn into an oversaturated mess.
The ugliest oversaturated color toning would be Witcher 3

For me? It's SA. But It's hard to get mad at VC fags, They're like the little bro

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How are they supposed to be a nuisance in any other way than being traffic?

Programming a pedestrian to be retarded and turn their car into you when they're coming up to a stop is not a nuisance, it's dumb and the fact that half of the driving in the game is avoiding traffic like that instead of like 4 which is more weaving in between and hitting sharp turns is a compliment.

Anyone can hop in their Zentorno/Adder super boosted car and cut corners like butter. Its just super dumbed down for kids and I didn't think it's as enjoyable as IV especially when 75% of the game is driving.

I thought only adults were allowed to go outside like in most games

SA soundtrack is too blackpilled
VC has the real jams

IRL is also over and undersaturated depending on where you live. Some places are more sunny, the grass is greaner and people drive more colorful cars, some places and more gloomy.

>GTAV
>oversaturated
That game is borderline unsaturated on consoles and lower tier PCs without mods

True, SA is second best when it comes to the music, But K-DST had some tunes
youtube.com/watch?v=amKJEVagPnE

that looks fine you retard

Disagree I guess.

Up, Up, A, A = Full health

what's there to talk about? everyone has already played through it and discussed it. nothing has changed except the online shit

maybe by e3

What's that haters? Can't hear you over the sound of all this soul.
youtube.com/watch?v=kOfoqP70rp4

>IV
Cherry pick images showcasing actual gameplay and assets
>V
Show cringy youtuber thumbnails and multiplayer microtransactions

We know GTA Online sucks but this doesn't make GTA IV any better

>Programming a pedestrian to be retarded and turn their car into you when they're coming up to a stop is not a nuisance, it's dumb and the fact that half of the driving in the game is avoiding traffic like that instead of like 4 which is more weaving in between and hitting sharp turns is a compliment.
Wait, how is someone doing something dumb like turning into you not an annoyance? Also, how is weaving inbetween vehicles that put no pressure on you more satisfying than weaving inbetween vehicles that are trying to take you out? For example, how can you be dissatisfied with getting from point a to b in record breaking time without even a scratch on your vehicle when the game is designed to try and cause you to be in accidents?

>Anyone can hop in their Zentorno/Adder super boosted car and cut corners like butter
Have you played V?

3, VC, SA, IV were played and discussed years and years after release, without any games as a service online bullshit.
Yet RDR2 barely goes a month until its forgotten and irrelevant

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I've always loved GTA IV, even when I played it on a laptop on low settings at 25 fps at launch.

Get a grip on your lives, V kiddies.

sorry user i cant hear that soul over the sound of all this soul
youtu.be/1uY-goxZ-tc

Then you're retarded, Vice City is smaller than III's Liberty City

>yoomer thinks the 3D games were the original trilogy
Raki taki teriyaki, motherfucker.

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fitgirl-repacks.site/grand-theft-auto-iv-complete-edition-v1-0-8-0v1-1-3-0/

Downgrade to 1.0.4.0 and get the Real Recoil mod. Be warned the game uses negative mouse acceleration which makes aiming a pain in the ass.

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Is there any way you can still find and install the individual expansions for GTA IV, or do you have to play EFLC with the radio all completely fucked up?

my tiny brain can only comprehend Yea Forums as a repository of one guys opinion. did i mention that this opinion is contrary to my own? i hate him. he is just so.... ugh.

Going into the phone slows you down though. By the time you exit the phone you're already peppered with more bullets. It's just not a good system.

I loved GTA III, VC, SA, IV and V
Don't know about the handhelds
Don't care about the topdowns' gameplay

Can we just all agree that V Online is a fucking travesty and killed the Franchise

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user, Vice City's map is about 1.4 times the size of 3's. This isn't an opinion. This is a measured fact. Go look it up...

Not him but the old system had as many inputs as the new one, haven't played it in a long time but I remember I memorized the cheatcodes in the phone and I could quickly select the cheats through my phone with only a few inputs.

>actually having to use cheats because you're dying, and not just to spawn vehicles and make the world sillier

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Not him, but I learned in SA that the game became extremely easy for me once I stopped using cheats to heal. Guns blazing with cheats makes the game so much harder... Why do you prefer to play the games in EZ mode?

jesus christ is that what it was? i tried playing gta 4 again recently and i was wondering why the fuck my cursor kept stopping on people with assist off. i could not play with it

IV actually sucked all the soul out of GTA.

This guy speaks the truth

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>ran like shit on consoles
>no one gave a shit
>ran like shit on pc
>everyone went apeshit

at least not Saints Row 2 :DDDD

I never said it wasn't annoying I said it was dumb.

Because people don't just turn into oncoming traffic typically killing themselves.

I have, everyone drives supercars, that can be taking to a garage and have upgraded handling when they already handle the best in the game.

What are you trying to prove?

most newfag post ITT

One possible solution is to turn in-game sensitivity all the way down and up your DPI or windows sensitivity to the maximum.

I don't know if it works with this type of acceleration.

for

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>2008
>early

Yeah no I beat the game without them, was just explaining that 4 buttons for cheats is better than doing the same 8 button combo over n over.

>I never said it wasn't annoying
>is not a nuisance
Please don't bring lies into our conversation.

>I have, everyone drives supercars, that can be taking to a garage and have upgraded handling when they already handle the best in the game.
Why do people love using GTO as examples for GTAV? Do you not realize they are 2 separate games? Again, have you ever played GTAV? Keep your answers relevant to the conversation at hand please.

>4 buttons for cheats
Previous GTAs always had you enter either a terribly long or a terribly unintuitive cheat code. How is typing AIYPWZQP any better than bringing up the phone and pressing the arrow up and enter key twice each to select a cheat phone number you've used before?

cringe

What I am saying is that VC's map fells more empty, Mainland Vice City is a fuckton of copypasted building and empty spaces.
Go to Little Havana/Haiti and you will see a lot of twin houses
Go to Downtown Vice City and you will see a lot of empty alleys.
Go to Escobar Airport and the Air Base, absolutely NOTHING there.

Compare that part of the city with Vice City Beach or Starfish Island, much more detailed but smaller.

n-n-no that soulless boring multiplayer mode has nothing to do with the soulless boring singleplayer mode! t-they're totally different!

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GTA 5 is a fine example of what games SHOULD look like. No disgusting colour grading or gamma shifting.

What are you talking about? driving is the exact same for both, they dont change driving mechanics besides with Franklin's stupid power mode. The driving is super easy and dumbed down and peds turning into you is dumb and makes no sense.

It isn't better, which is why I said that it wasn't better.

The PC port of GTA IV is a famously terrible port.

Okay so you preferred 3's map. What does that have to do with you calling the other user an idiot for saying Vice City's map was huge, which is factually correct?

>looks better than console
>runs better than console
>controls the same as console if you plug in a controller, but also has mouse + keyboard support
sorry, please explain how it was badly ported?

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>ywn play III again and feel the gigantic leap from 5th to 6th gen
>ywn play SAMP with your old friends anymore
>ywn play the kino masterpiece that is IV for the first time again

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Nope. It's PC on highest settings.

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It seems bigger because you have more things to do and more places to explore

>runs better than console
You're out of your mind. If you try to play the game on the equivalent of xbox360 hardware and settings it runs like complete dogshit.

Buy a PC

>GTAO
>new vehicles
>able to upgrade high end vehicles
>using said vehicle for an argument
Ever heard of a Motte-and-bailey fallacy user? You are taking something similar yet definitively different, and arguing against that instead of the actual game being talked about just because GTAO is an easier argument to win. Yes, GTAO is based on the same code used in GTAV. They are still separate games with separate things available in them. If you want to use GTAO as the basis of your argument then we have nothing to talk about. GTAO is shit and is not the same thing as GTAV.

Is there an easy way to restore the removed music in the Steam version of the game?

no it doesn't
the reason IV "runs shit" is because R* made the mistake of allowing users to push the distance slider past what the game was designed for. consoles use a distance value of around 20%, but then you get a bunch of retards who see a slider and think "hur dur this must be maxed out", push it to 100%, tank their framerate, and wonder why the game runs shit
for a platform that's supposed to filter out retards, PC gaming is surprisingly full of retards.

>tfw you will never play
>mode: free roam
>area: airport
>weapon: rpg only
>friendly fire: off
>police: off
>weather: rain

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>Same game
>Use it to make argument about same game

Yup I sure took that low hanging fruit to make my point. How dare I say that...

My point remains the same the game has vastly easier driving the IV and can be made even easier in both modes. And the Peds behavior is dumb.

youtu.be/LjQ134HKrMk
youtu.be/yIlnbsE_JMg

4 is just incredibly fun to play. fuck 5

GTA IV is perhaps one of the most boring video game experiences ever released perhaps besides airport multiplayer.

There are guides for it, but you just have to download an easier version with the music still intact.

>runs better than console
On 2019 hardware. The game engine for IV is one of the most inefficient and terrible performing I have ever witnessed. That being said it also ran like ass on consoles too anyway.

>same game
Feel free to blow me out of the water on how they are the same game. Does using the same engine make something the same game? Does being on the same disc make something the same game? How does having different vehicles, different gameplay features, different story content, and so on make something the same game? Are you saying some reused assets make them the same game? Does that mean most Castlevania games are the same game? Please enlighten me on how you are just calling them the same game only because it makes your argument more likely to be true.

Cars can get absolutely rekt in GTA IV. You can take an explosion and bail out of your car and tumble across the ground with the ragdoll physics. Fun.

Cars in GTA V barely suffer any major body damage unlike IV. You typically cannot take an explosion unless you max out armor, even then no major body damage will happen, if you bail out you'll at best skid across the ground, likely die if you come into contact with any object at all. Not fun.

yeah and call of duty 4 and call of duty 4 multiplayer are different products because they use different exes and have different features

it's the same game you retard
same mechanics same physics same map same shit
>b-b-b-b-but it's a different game look it has new vehicles! and they added snacks! it's a new game!

Congrats. You learned how packaging works. 2 different things can be included on a single disc. Isn't it wonderful?

>the vehicle is the reason why...
>but user the vehicle is different between games
>WELL EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE SAME WHICH IS WHY THE VEHICLE DOESN'T MATTER
Fuck off already. I'm done with your goalpost changing faggot ways...

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To answer your question: Yes.

They are 100% the same game, the online just has more content.

With you argument you could call a game like Super Mario World a different game because you're playing as Luigi and he has a different colored outfit.

You're also getting further away from my original point. It's not hard to admit that the driving in V was made super simple.

I've never seen such a detailed gore in a game.

>With you argument you could call a game like Super Mario World a different game because you're playing as Luigi and he has a different colored outfit.
Don't fucking strawman now... What your REAL comparison would be is creating a new game using Super Mario World's assets, creating brand new maps, giving Luigi new abilities, and creating a whole new scenario for the game. Yes, that would be a brand new fucking game...

yes based fun-poster

>mfw i first unlocked this achievement and thought i killed a dev
gta.fandom.com/wiki/Let_Sleeping_Rockstars_Lie

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>driving in V was made super simple
Trying my best not to argue against a god damn opinion you retarded piece of shit... I've already talked about how SIMPLE looking IV's driving looked and you have in fact told me things that MAKES it more simple. Then you want me to accept your opinion as fact. Fuck off...

>looked
says enough faggot
you dont know shit

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bros...

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GTAV cars take tons of damage, but they had to tone down the deformation to account for the (more) arcadey driving mechanics. I like both games though.

You asked what made it the same game. If you think DLC/features for an Online portion of a game automatically makes it a new game we have totally differing views, which is fine.

But acting like I give a shit about if its a separate game from the SP was never my concern. The cars handle better in V from top to bottom and I enjoyed the driving in IV more because it didnt feel like Saints Row and had more of a curve to being "good".

>2008 was 11 years ago...

HEY ROMAN I DON'T THINK WE'RE BOWLING IN LIBERTY CITY NO MORE

2 different things. Your dumb rant about GTA V and GTA O "different games" is semantic in the same way I can say Team Deathmatch and Search and Destroy are different games (and different things included in the same package). Does he have to spell game with a capital G to confirm he means the Game that is sold as a complete package?

Its a person driving straight through normal traffic. There are no sharp turns or car chases here, what you want me to tell you?

Nah, there's much less fauna and the lighting's worse in O... pretty big differences

was for

if it's so easy (which for me it is) then how come threads are full of kids whining about how hard the driving is?

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are you seriously trying to argue that Vs driving wasn't simplified? You can even steer your car in the air lol

Because they need to git gud obviously and they don't want to.

They want the fastest car with the best stats. Which is why they prefer V's driving.

Yeah I like Crowbcat too

youtube.com/watch?v=GWVtZJo-HqI

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>BROWN BAD
>QUAKE GOOD THOUGH

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No I was arguing that it was.

I was arguing that clip was super simple driving because it's a straight shot through normal traffic.

>gta iv
>boomer
huh?

this will be graphics in 2013

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realer than real life

or they just find it ridiculous that the car behaves like it's on ice even while driving 10 mph, hmmm

this, but unironically

sounds like they never played
so their opinion is worthless

they did play it though, seethe more

?? Never felt like this while driving in IV.

gta 4 all the way, dropped v after that first scripted heist. driving in v is arcadey and the combat is dumbed down to press the triggers fast until pedestrian dies. gta 4 had combos and the cops couldn't predict the future. fuck the expansions tho, best one is liberty city stories with it's mafioso theme.

turn down the distance slider

implying

EVERY FUCKING THREAD

It is pretty good aside from the texture flickering nonsense. The only problem is the headlamp shadows are CPU calculated, but I'm running at usually 60fps with dips in some areas at 4K with a 2080ti :)

>play GTA V
>want to just chill and walk around
>cant stand still more than two seconds before i start agroing some pedestrian
What was the though process that came up with this stupid NPC behavior

uh, waiter, a dash of your finest soul please

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Spoonfeeding action to zero attention span zoomers.

mmm that hits the spot

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>Unique-paintjob Coquette
Exquisite

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You can't

who cares about which games better just play the one you like you faggot nerds

But then I wouldn't be about to brag about nonsensical bullshit for e-cred with internet weirdos!

this is one of the best pieces of bait I've seen in a while, bravo

Dark Souls had plenty of colors. Don't tell me that you're still stuck on Undead Parish.

they're both awful

Silence shitter boomer

fuck up retard kid, go buy a shark card

Or was it SOULLESS

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nigger its literally almost summer. if you arent living in the frozen tundras take a peep out your basement window and observe just how colorful real life is

IV is absolutely soulless compared to San Andreas.

you don't user. it's a horrible port, second only to Saints Row 2.

you leave revolver out of this user

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>sorry, please explain how it was badly ported?
You can't even complete the game on certain GPUs due to the very last QTE cutscene, it also runs like shit.

People who play ANY Rockstar games have to be the biggest goddamn complainers ever. Fucking why? Just play the games and shut the fuck up.

because it is. unironically. it almost ruined GTA.

>just stop complaining
this is the shit that people who c

>finding SOUL in a random youtube video
youtube.com/watch?v=0hbchN67mPI

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god i wish that were me

LA

This.

Quake has more colors than brown, the levels are also actually interesting in it's architecture and has a gorgeus style that is still unmatched.

Also, don't bother replying to this post if you haven't played Quake without texture filterering, your opinion literally holds no weight and you have shit taste

GTA IV had the best story, physics, and realism.

But it was hated because it wasn't as in wacky as GTA SA (one of the best roleplaying games of 2004).

Though it really is good, there's multiple ethnicities like Alb*nians which you can kill.

Fuck your console-war tier discussion, Grove Street OG here.

GTA San Andreas is a fucking masterpiece, it's unmatched in storytelling, interesting ways to keep the player invested, and a fuckhuge map (at the time) that's fun to explore. That's why Rockstar desperatly came back to Los Santos in GTA V.

Quake is also a god-tier game, one of the best games ever created.

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>brown and bloom
>soul
lol

to be honest if you guys look at it deep enough you'll see that most of the technology/ car models present in date are from 2004 at best.
even the best cellphone you can get in the game is dated.
the decision to set the game in 2008 was clearly done on the last moment.
hell, the supercar models are all based on their real life 2004 counterparts.

I hate this soul shit. When gta 4 was the new gta, all you contrarian niggers hated it. Now that it's old and 5 is the new one, its supposedly well liked now? How's it feel to be the hipsters of the internet?

Launching gta4 on my ps3 right now bros. Thanks for the thread.

Why is the PC port so shit? I played it on Steam but never understood its poor performance, is it spaghetti coding?

Brainlet plebs detected

I'd fuck that horse

Yeah, I just replayed SA not too long ago. Riding around san fierro and the countryside with k-dst on the radio is pure kino.

*Turns on Radio*
*SNORT* *SNORT*

V and its not close.
GTA is a strange franchise because it literally improves vastly with each iteration.
GTA3 on the Ps2 plays terribly today

>GTA San Andreas is a fucking masterpiece, it's unmatched in storytelling
user I love SA to death but the story was absolute dogshit.

How? I felt like the main characters got some neat development, with all the changes going to the hood, seeing CJ go from some nigger to a businessman was very great, and the betrayals were well foreshadowed (except for Ryder's)

I dont like how nobody found any actual interesting secrets in gta4

>Yea Forums is one person
How does it feel to be the dumbass of the internet?

CJ going from hood to businessman was just as exciting as Tommy buying businesses and calling himself boss. He was still the same boring, sane-man character who gets into dumb shit because of his dumbass pals.

I say this almost every time there is a GTA IV thread. It's obvious all the people whining about shit optimization just have the sliders all cranked to 100%

Nothing worse than a fucking retard like you who pretends everything is fine because fuck consoles. The port is dogshit. Look at benchmarks videos of high rigs, shit can't even hold a steady 60, dips below 40 are common.

>he doesn't patch in widescreen support
get with the times boomer

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GTAIV takes place in Liberty City which is based off New York though..

New York is always grey. They are both pretty close to accurate, this thread is just full of idiots.

Wait wtf, why is everything grey and brown?

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I keep seeing this posted but I don't see what's wrong with this webm?

>queens/bronx
Too completely different places wtf are you talking about?

>Too

>we lived long enough for brown and bloom to be considered soul
I guess mgs4 is now the best game of the franchise

>brown shit filters
>soul
ugh

>goes outside in new york city
>colors look virtually identical to gta4
autistic user: "brown shit filters" "ugh"

GTAIV looks like shit. It's hard to look at. It actually impairs the gameplay because normal scenes where you're under an El train pretend the shadows cast by the rails are as dark as midnight in the hills of Arkansas despite it being mid day in New York. No place on Earth looks like GTAIV.

The "person" who made this image and everyone who replied to it should be killed.
Fucking meme slaves are cancer.

>only the taxi looks good

lol

You are definitely a newfag who was not here when GTAIV came out.

gta 5 driving is way better, even if you only consider the fucking cancerous camera that gta 4 had, swaying all over the place

The sad thing is that people will claim you are full of shit and that it controls fine. The developers themselves said sorry for the boat-like controls and promised that GTAV was going to be a huge improvement. How can someone be so blind when even the devs admit that the game has the exact problem that those fanboys want to pretend is all in your head?

They whine about how unrealistic it is

If they hate it so much they could try this
youtube.com/watch?v=TKBgfN6be8Q
Looks pretty good

>apologized for boat like controls
as far as I'm concerned, this doesn't really seem to have been improved since the sluggish controls have been tedious from gta iv to rdr 2

Devs always cater to whiny casuals. They just agreed for damage control.

Also isn't it funny how so many games that comes out nowadays is too hard for 90 percent of game reviewers? Good job contributing to that.

>Devs always cater to whiny casuals
How you enjoying Sekiro's easy mode faggot?

I also find it funny that when everyone complains that the game controls like shit, everyone tries to pretend people are complaining it is too hard. It is literally the easiest driving in the entire franchise. Just like boat races are easy as fuck.