TSR thread

I don't see what the presentation has to do with the writing itself.

I understand this but getting the balance between hitting enough pawns to keep the timer from running out, but not too many so that I dont max out on points before shooting 35 wisps is the difficult part

This strategy won't work for most of Yea Forums, but having a co-op buddy really helps on some of those side missions.

It feels like a soulless version of Transformed.

Prospective player and avid Kartfag here, how does the co op feel? Is it the game worth buying now or wait for a price drop.

Dont talk to my sons ever again if you dont have a golden chao car.

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I like the team mechanics. It's fun building up to your special move instead of just getting it at random from an item box like in the previous games.
It kinda already is on sale if you get it from Amazon or Walmart.

I'm on the fence as far as recommending it goes. I've been loving the game, but I'm not sure it's really a 40 dollar game.
Gold ain't cute

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Check out my golden meme too

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It's definitely worth the 40 dollars.

i really want to get it so i can talk about it on Yea Forums.
but i just got a $6000 dollar surgery and feel bad aboit spending $40.

should i still buy?

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This shovelware is not worth the $40.

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What are your financials like? Was that 6000 a devastating blow?

Why do I feel like Transformed looked better?

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$40 is a drop in the bucket compared to $6000. If its not going to break the bank than go ahead It'll give you something to do while you recover.
But if $40s can be the difference between paying the bills and keeping food in the fridge than no just wait until you are in a better situation and hopefully it'll be on sale by then anyway

It feels like they took the ideas from Transformed and made something new with it.
Honestly I commend them for trying something unique and taking a risk. It really feels like it fits the tradition Sumo has of taking the kart genre and doing something new with it.

Artstyle. The TSR artstyle, to me, is more in line with the first game, with a focus on more color and making wacky locales. Transformed had a more realistic look

The game excluded Cream the rabbit so it's not worth playing, Play Sonic riders instead.

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I'm getting bronze on the side missions then moving on. I'll come back to them when I find the ideal car/character to use.
Also how come the power char ai is trash.
It's at the point where I'm stuck playing as omega so the other 2 ai drivers can have fast characters and not lose as often.

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fbhcd

Did that for Big myself

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I don't think you got anything in Transformed either so I'm not that shocked you get nothing for it in this game. I guess just bragging rights
I'm going to make my Chao Pod resemble Cream, because I did that for Blaze with Marine. I just need the Sandopolis paint kit first

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>Good game

You got a sticker and the Yokozuna achievement in transformed for beating all staff ghosts. It also showed up on your licence.

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Ah, my bad then. I was only able to beat the Hard ghosts. I guess TSR is more akin to the first one where doing all the Time Trials doesn't earn you anything special

Based

>Using parts to turn a Technical character into a Speed character that can drive off road
Look at me i'm having fun!

You'll still fall behind the powerchads with our unlimited boost works.

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Are you able to recreate Rouge's dickmobile in this?
I already recreated the car Tails had in Drift

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Whats the trick to getting a good score in Daredevil courses? I can barely get a bronze medal.

You just have to drift into the red sides as close as possible

sucks that you can't select your character before joining a lobby. Half the time you join a lobby the match is about to start so it wont let you, and if the host disconnects then it resets to Sonic each time and I usually forget to select my character again.

JUST WIN THE RACE

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THAT DOES IT I NEVER SHOULD OF RACE YOU YOU MADE ME LOSE
IM NEVER GONNA SLOW THAT HEDGEHOG DOWN TO CATCH HIM
SCRATCH, GROUNDER I NEED YOU TWO TO HELP ME OUT
IF YOU BRING ME VICTORY, I'LL SHINE YOUR TREADS

HOW???

JUST WIN THE RACE JUST WIN THE RACE JUST WIN JUST WIN JUST WIN THE RACE
I DON'T CARE WHAT TAKES JUST FIND A WAY TO WIN THE RACE
WIN THE RACE JUST WIN THE RACE
JUST WIN JUST WIN JUST WIN THE RACE
I DON'T CARE WHAT TAKES
JUST FIND A WAY TO MAKE ME HAPPY

-THAT DIRTY RAT HES CHEATING LOOK
IM NEVER IN TIME FOR THE FUN STUFF
THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM I'VE ONLY JUST BEGUN TO CHEAT
I'M CERTAIN I'LL DO SOME MO-O-O-O-ORE

YOURE GONNA MAKE US, FASTER?

OF COURSE YOU IDIOT JUST GET OUT AND
WIN THE RACE JUST WIN THE RACE JUST WIN JUST WIN JUST WIN THE RACE
I DON'T CARE WHAT TAKES JUST FIND A WAY TO WIN THE RACE
WIN THE RACE JUST WIN THE RACE
JUST WIN JUST WIN JUST WIN THE RACE I DON'T CARE WHAT TAKES
JUST FIND A WAY TO MAKE ME PROUD

I GUESS THATS THE PRICE I HAVE TO PAY FOR CATCHING A HEDGEHOG
ILL HAVE TO GIVE MYSELF A PROMOTION TOMORROW :D

THE FUN IS JUST STARTING I SPENT A BILLION MOBIANS THROW THE RACE OR TAILS IS DOOM?
(shrug) THERES NOT MUCH CHOICE

AHAHAHA YEA HAHAHA I FINALLY DONE IT

YOU WIN ROBOTNIK
AHAHAHA YEA HAHAHA YES, I DID WIN, DIDNT I?
AHAHAHA YEA HAHAHA
NICE TRY- HEDHGEHOG

FINALLY EVERYONE WILL KNOW IT IM THE BOSS AND YOU KNOW IT
RIIIIGHT OH YES I AM AND NOW IM READY TO CONQUER EVERY INCH OF MOBIUS

FINALLY EVERYONE WILL SEE IT IM THE BOSS AND YOU KNOW IT
RIIIIGHT OH YES I AM
AND NOW IM READY TO CONQUER THE UNIVERSE

I WIN THE RACE I WIN THE RACE
I WIN I WIN I WIN THE RACE
I DONT CARE WHAT I DID I WON THE RACE, AND NOW IM HAPPY

WIN THE RACE I WIN THE RACE

I WIN THE RACE I WIN THE RACE I WIN I WIN I WIN THE RACE

I DONT CARE WHAT I DID
I WON THE RACE, AND NOW IM DONE

I GUESS THATS THE PRICE I HAVE TO PAY FOR CATCHING A HEDGEHOG
ILL HAVE TO GIVE MYSELF A PROMOTION
TODAY!

THE FUN IS NOW OVER AND I SPENT ALL MY MONEY I WON THE RACE TAILS IS YOURS

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Get comfy

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Technical characters are weird. They're slightly slower than the others, but to compensate all their other stats are super inflated. If you look at
and
for instance the difference they have in speed/boost is small but then all of chao's other stats are miles ahead.

what episode?

>can only play as Team Sonic and have to unlock the actual good characters via story
Yikes! When does this POS get good?

Debating on buying this. But is there a sound option where you can either turn voices off or lower the volume to effectively mute them?

You can play anyone you want in the other modes. The team unlocking shit is only a thing in story mode.

Yes.

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You literally unlock them by beating a chapter.
In fact, they're all unlocked for play outside of the adventure mode.
Yes, you can turn it off, or turn it to text only.

How do I get the "400 rings in a single drift" mission on the Sky Road ring challange?

Okay then I may actually pick it up. Game looks great and has a lovely soundtrack, but god fucking damn do I hate the modern voice cast

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How is the PC version? Good port? Any shitty DRM?

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why? People age after all.

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Pray

excellent
good port
denuvo

>denuvo
Guess I'm not getting it on PC then.

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It does have Denuvo
Is that from Night of the Werehog? I was hoping for a cameo from the ghosts in that short but if they still referenced it with the knights, that makes me love that stage even more.
I understand user, some of the replacement voices aren't that great either

How do I stop playing Grand Prix Missions as a Speed character

How do I get knuckles to stop being a fucktard

It's because the PC port is fucking wacky and seemingly isn't actually making use of DirectX properly or something, and also the graphical options are incredibly limited, basically putting it on par visually with the PS4 version. If they bothered to add antialiasing options greater than
>off
>on
it would probably look a lot better. Also shadows are extremely shit and there's no graphical options for them at all. Given how good the PC port of ASRT was in terms of graphical options, it's shocking that this one is so sparse.

How does the Switch version fare?

be knuckles, Power characters are just retarded for some reason, its not a balance issue, I watched omega fly off of the course 3 times while watching the minimap while in first place

locked at 30fps

Try being nicer to him.

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I bought the game with high hops that they'd include DLC. but I'm starting to lose faith, especially considering how dead online mode is. I don't think this game is getting anything. I wish I could refund.

What are you talking about? That sounds exactly in line with the graphics settings in Sumo's other racers.
In fact, I'll bet 5 bucks that the graphics settings still aren't in-game.

Honestly supporting the game helps. They may change their minds about it. At the very least I honestly think that some DLC stages and teams would make this game go from good to great

"A single drift" just means don't let go of the button long enough to get a boost. If you switch directions back and forth it's still 1 drift.

I had to boot up the configuration for ASRT to check and I guess you're right. That's a shitty bet to make though because you're dead wrong. Still though, it looks like the anti aliasing method and shadow quality is just way worse than ASRT for some reason, edges are way less smooth and shadows are so absolute dog shit that it's hard not to notice. There's definitely something weird about it.

The online mode is my biggest complaint. It takes far too long to get a match going. I don't really care about getting achievements or 100%'ing the game. I just want to beat other people.

Wow so brave, Sega is finally gonna learn there lesson now.

They removed Denuvo from the PC version of Mania, so I'm hoping they do the same for TSR.

I've yet to go online, as I want to at least become semi decent and get all the parts first. But chances are I'll be playing it with friends mostly

>They removed Denuvo from the PC version of Mania
Yeah like a fucking year after the fact or something. It didn't happen in a week.

is the pc version locked to 60fps?

Asking real questions here

nope
steamcommunity.com/app/785260/discussions/0/1653297026032919418/

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Is there a crack?

no

played 4-5 hours of this today. having a great time on the one x. 60fps is nice compared to playing transformed. i do miss the general sega theme but this game feels way more cohesive overall aesthetically compared to transformed. music is great, local co-op for the campaign is nice, and the presentation is nice. the only sad thing to me is the online sucks cause you can't party up with friends to race other players. this seems like such an obvious inclusion so i don't get why you can't do this. also it'd be nice to be able to co-op the campaign online. missed opportunity.

as far as the gameplay itself, it plays well. the outrun gameplay is tight and feels good. it does not feel like a kart racer though. the tracks are much wider and the cars themselves are much bigger in scale than go-karts.

and? its not like the game is gonna dissapear or something

I like Silvers voice because it's Makoto from Danganronpa

I suggest taking the multiplayer comment to twitter, usually for games like this pinging on twitter works.

Trying to 100% this before Crash comes out. But two cheevos require another local player.

>sky road's final lap song changes radically compared to the normal theme
youtube.com/watch?v=uFDfaHUCHds
This is good shit. I wish the other tracks did it too instead of just speeding up the track

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This comic is brutal

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Ocean View is normally a remix of "You can do Anything" but Super Sonic Racing gets added in on the Final Lap.
Although that was just a repeat from Transformed.

Holy shit vector

I've platinumed all the daredevil, ring, etc so far, I don't continue the story until I do.

>1699/1700 points daredevil
son of a bitch

>traffic race with Big

Why the fuck am I doing this to myself

I don't know, why are you? Power characters are fucking worthless for all side missions.

Why did he murder her?

My main issue is the boost effects. They feel much weaker.

Don't be ridiculous now, Sega never learns.

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Yeah, I think Boost stat is still OP like it was in Transformed. I set a platinum time with Sonic but then beat it with a max boost Zavok easily.

Reminder that the AI can't drive on haunted castle, especially on expert

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Knuckles's palette yellow looks exactly like gold when metal if you want a gold trim without flashy gold parts

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I used the Casino Park paint kit to customize my Knuckles. I specifically wanted it to look like grapes

>that 14 second gap
Wow, they sure can't

to be fair, Sega released it at the same time than Total War China

Jesus

>Get 100 rings in a single drift!
HOW

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You can snake in both Transformed and TSR. You can quickly let go of brake and then tap it again to drift in a different direction to keep your boost charging.

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It's real easy to chain drifts and snake in Sumo kart games.

See

>Team Eggman not playable in story mode

FUCK

Anyone else have massive graphical issues with the ice level on PC? It's a complete mess for me.

Pic related

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Wait I can't play the story with my man with the plan? That sucks

Here's your (you) I guess.

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Unfortunately no you can't

Some of the dialogue is genuinely funny when it's not shit like "oof, epic stunt fail"

>not this:
youtube.com/watch?v=F3GZDq8RSdw

youtube.com/watch?v=pTt2mEH7vFc

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god I fucking miss Ulala

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>Silver's voice

Just when I thougth hooba dooba Sonic and edgy smoker Shadow couldn't be topped it somehow gets fucking worse.

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At least Blaze has a good new voice

I love the self aware lines like when silver goes >Thanks Omachao, that was *actually* pretty helpful!

Or when Sonic expresses his love of bounce pads, as if Sega and Sumo doesn't know that everyone hated Rise of Lyric.

>tfw Blaze is a better current day Sonic than Sonic thanks to Pontaff and Graff's butchering of his character

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what would be the best handheld to read digital comics?

I'm sure they know, I noticed that as well

>Tails (male)
shit game

>Sonic's a self aware meme spouting goofball

I feel like this is some SEGA mandate

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More Switch reviews.(Posted this in the /vg/ general already)

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Not too bad. Though some may call a 7 mediocre, I would say it's a fair score. Even All Stars Racing is honestly a 7/10 in my book.

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>we like Humphrey-esque Shadow?
Which is what he sounds like.

mediocre is synonymous with average, which is what 7/10 is. not bad, but not good.

8/10 is good, or above average.
9/10 is excellent
10/10 is perfection

>I would say it's a fair score
I agree. Most reviews focus on comparing it to Transformed and saying it doesn't live up to its predecessor.

>they can't do 'roboticization anymore because its not Archie and Ken Penders is a dick bender'

>so now they're doing 'not-roboticization' by making them look like the Sonic Heroes unlockable skins

Neat.

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Which I can agree with, but personally I appreciate them for being bold and trying something different.
I do however ignore reviews that seem to dickride Mario Kart or just don't even bother looking into the game features, like people that don't know what items do even though there's literally a tips menu that tells you how they all work.

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>Metal
Check
>Loss of free will
Check
>Eggman wants to turn the whole world into his slaves
Check

They aren't even trying to pretend. If they don't want to incite the pendocalypse just steal something from Sonic Undergorund, who's going to sue?

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Roboticization was mentioned in LEGO Dimensions’ Sonic pack. They /can/ use it but chose not to.

Fuck Breampf and fuck rabbit people

Why are you posting this dead OC? They're dead and aren't in Sonic games anymore.

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Is this just supposed to be a zombie apocalypse but with robots?

You really need to read more books or play more games that aren’t LOOTY SHOOTY FIFTY FIVE

basically, but it can infect the ground, clothing etc. too and spread that way
plus Eggman is flying around on his faceship and is puking the infection all over cities

Ian is a huge SatAM fan, so perhaps that's why the arc is like that (even though that it now lacks almost half of stuff that made SatAM to be what is it in the first place).

>who's going to sue?
Oh, that's easy.

Ken Penders.

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Just like CNN

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this

That's been the goal since Colors. When Sonic Team make changes due to criticism they tend to be extreme about it. One of the main criticisms back before Colors was that Sonic games took themselves too seriously.

TSR is anything but soulless the OST alone oozes soul.

Your phone?

Is the game fast like transformed enough? I've been wanting to get it but have been weary hearing the mixed reviews from veterans.
t. got a top 10 leaderboard record on a track

More soul, less budget.

You can go fast, but it's very boost dependent, and it feels like you have to earn that speed/build it up

No, TSR is definitely soulless.

No victory animations
The same poster render is used 4 times in the game
Lifeless static animations while in cars
No animated cutscenes
No CGI ending scene
Only 15 characters
Only 1-2 tracks feel like they belong to Sonic

And that's why this game is 70%, because it's soulless.

Dude. The writing in this game can be funny at times but it's mostly just Pontac and Graff localization garbage all over again.

>Lifeless static animations while in cars
I can agree, they don't have as many animations as the predecessors
>No CGI ending scene
Trivial but alright
>Only 1-2 tracks feel like they belong to Sonic
I think they, for the most part, did a good job of taking the locations and making them have a Sonic esque identity thanks to the in stage cameos and references, even going as far as to incorporate stage elements to make each zone feel like the original or just make them feel new (mixture of forest and mechanical elements in the latter Planet Wisp stages plus a cameo from Mother Wisp, Rooftop Run having a daytime, sunset, and night variant, and two of that set of tracks referencing the game and short, Boo's House mixing Pyramid Cave and Sandopolis with Boom Boo traps and King Boom Boo)

>Honestly has some of the best writing in a modern game in literal years
The absolute state of /sthg/

>every score should be a reportcard from a classroom
Nah. 5/10 should be the medium for a mediocre/decent game as the strict median.

This is what happens when you play Sonic games and nothing else.

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This.
Forces is a 5/10 in my eyes, truly mediocre. TSR is a 7, a good game that nearly reaches that greatness, and needs only a few additions to get there.

If anything the 70% score confirms that it is soulful.

Static 2D images for victory screen instead of shitty looking 3D ones
The same SOULFUL image used sereveral times because it's that fucking good
Souldful car animations that reference old soulful 90s racers
Soulfull Adventure style static renders instead of shitty soulless CGI cutscenes that have plagued the series since Colors that bump the soul level to 11
14 soulful characters with the exception of Zavok
All of the tracks are appropriately themed and fit the Sonic universe unlike the garbage mishmash of SOULLESS garbage of LITERAL WHOS from previous games

It definitely has less soul because it's a Sonic only product. This game was made to appeal to the shitty Sonic fanbase and no one else. So fuck this game.

>they don't have as many animations as the predecessors
Predecessors made up for it by having a rich selection of characters. They get a pass on that.

>Trivial but alright
That type of passion attributes to the soul of the game. It's those little things that make an otherwise mediocre title into a good one.

>I think they, for the most part, did a good job of taking the locations
I am mainly talking about tracks such as Clockwork Pyramid, Frozen Junkyard and Hidden Volcano. Hidden Volcano especially feels very crappy.

5/10 isn't decent, that's terrible. A game scoring a fucking 50% wouldn't be considered a decent game. That's a critical failure. Do you know what "average" means? The average game isn't 50%.

>If anything the 70% score confirms that it is soulful.
Mediocre titles aren't soulful. Soul = 80%+.
It got a 70% purely because of the gameplay, which obviously is hard to fuck up considering they used the SAME engine as All stars. The team mechanic is what every reviewer raises, because it's the only thing in the game worth praising.

>Static 2D images for victory screen instead of shitty looking 3D ones
But..they're static 3D images. What the fuck are you talking about?

>The same SOULFUL image used sereveral times because it's that fucking good
Lmao, alright this is bait or sarcasm.

>Predecessors made up for it by having a rich selection of characters. They get a pass on that.
He's saying that the previous games had way more animation than TSR. the characters barely fucking move and are completely expressionless in TSR. Transformed they had a variety of taunting and celebration animations.

And god let's not even compare it to CTR or Mario Kart.

I didn't mention CTR because CTR just utterly blows this out the water with how much passion and soul it has.

It'd be an insult to compare this game to CTR, which will no doubt score 9/10~10/10 across the board.

If CTR had released before TSR, you can bet TSR would be a 6/10 right now.

Then that's not 1-2 tracks that feel like they belong in Sonic
If anything all of those stages still feel like they would be actual Sonic levels. Clockwork Pyramid is like an Eggman base with sand and ice elements added in, Hidden Volcano incorporates both ice and lava while maintaining the theme of stage interaction the game has, and Frozen Junkyard feels like an abandoned Eggman base as a leftover from Forces, even with a still active Death Egg Sentinel.
What saddens me is Mario Kart 8 dropped the podium finishes and victory lap animations after Grand Prixes. I miss those, even though I do love that game.

CTR look like an emulated psx game.
I've seen fanmade remake with more ambitions.

No idiot, You're thinking in terms of your reportcard in school.
If you do that the range of your judgement is going to be limited to mostly 4 different choices: a 7/10, an 8/10 and a 9/10 and a 10/10. At this point you might as well just use smiley faces to judge games.

A 5/10 is the raw median, for it's neither below Average nor above it.

And before you go
>5/10 isn't average
I invite you to add all numbers from 0 to 10 and divide them by 11 (because 0 is a number too)

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I'm thinking in terms of how games are rated as an industry standard. I don't give a fuck what kind of stupid logic you're trying to pull to justify calling this game good.

It's average. Mediocre. Get over it already.

>industry standard
I'd like to see your degree in shit tadte

how to make it soulfull:
>arts by Sindoll
>musicby Crush 40
>steam workshop
>Blizzard at the cutscenes

Can you play co op racing online?

Pretty sure you can

how much weed needles did you embibe

That's not an argument.

damn was going to pick it up but it looks like the game will be dead in a couple weeks

eh, like your dog

It literally is, you mouthbreather. We just had the whole Seriko debacle where reviewers were tanking scores because the game was too hard and lacked an easy mode and you want to put the """"industry standard"""" in the hand of game journalist and reviewers?

Ultimately a score is a subjective Fucking opinion and should be treated as such. In a scale 1 to 10, 1 being an unplayable, unfinished buggy mess and 10 being the best game to ever exist.

weeks? try now. I have spent 30 mins looking for matches online for PC. someone joins, then leaves after 5 seconds. No clue why.

I'd rather have a laggy, non-region locked match than nothing at all. It's not like this game is fucking competitive, especially if you have AI teammates. The rubber banding makes it more luck based than anything else.

damn you sure showed me but enjoy your dead game dont reply to me i already left the thread

The fucking games I buy every year looks so strange when I list them
>rage 2
>X4 Foundations
>Team Sonic Racing
>Dead Or Alive 6

That's your opinion man, ultimately it doesn't change the fact that TSR is widely considered mediocre.

Your'e just drawn to mediocrity huh?

>74% positive rates
nice

I don't give a flying fuck if it was considered mediocre, that's not what we were arguing about.

Is the online already dead? or am I in some d/c only type thing? I had to leave two races after the finished cause the game froze of the results screen

Even Roger was shitting on the bounce pad thing when he played SA2 on a Sega stream.

Yeah, it's nice that many people are enjoying the game. Sumo really does show a lot of love to SEGA and Sonic in their racing games.
I think it's just badly handled matchmaking like I've heard Transformed had, honestly

The problem pretty much is that you can only join lobbies before a race starts.

like most racing games

Ah, I see. You can still make your own lobbies and host them right? That's likely what I'll do most of the time

Silver's voice is fine since he finally sounds like the absolute dork he is.

Yes
ASRT had this too iirc. So you gotta keep looking for lobbies for a race that hasn t started yet.

So is this game worth getting?
I enjoyed the two games before it but the teamwork mechanic has me uncertain; I don't want to be penalised because my teammate is shit

I'm really enjoying it so far, the team stuff works pretty well and is easy to learn. Game has a bit of a learning curve and has a lot of side content to unlock for each character
Missions are also as brutal as the All Stars Racing games got

Fuck this game for not including Cream the Rabbit.

>alright this is bait or sarcasm

It's counter bait, actually

I find that 7/10 games are more fun than the 8 or 9 games.

You've been eating shit for so long that you're allergic to anything that isn't shit. It's ok. Some people are like that I guess. Really sad.

why the fuck is online so bad? cant join lobbies middle of race so you never find any lobbies. the low player count doesnt help either. what a fucking retarded downgrade from SART. Atleast you could join midrace there

>Yeah, it's nice that many people are enjoying the game. Sumo really does show a lot of love to SEGA and Sonic in their racing games.
I have never seen anyone be this impressed with a fucking average in the 70s. Jesus christ Sonic fans are pathetic.

I know you're baiting but I just don't care for most review scores, 7s tend to be those "diamond in the rough" kind of games, their quirkiness brings me more joy than some sterile 9/10 journalist approved game

9/10 games are "sterile"

You are sad. You are just trying to make yourself seem unique. You're still a sheep user.

Well yeah that's well and fine if you're talking about a young adult novel, but video games are a visual medium

I honestly think they're shills or paid advertisers. Not even /sthg/, the Sonic general, is praising the game that much. I don't even see that praise in the Steam discussions for the fucking game. I've only seen this behavior on Yea Forums.

Shut the fuck already you blabbering retard.

The writing is awful and I have how they basically made all the Sonic characters have their Sonic Boom personas even though these versions of the characters aren't the Boom ones.

Which was odd because Unleashed was the perfect balance of "serious" and "light-hearted whimsy".

Though I will point out that this wouldn't even be an issue in the first place if Sonic Team never put such a focus on narrative in their Sonic games to begin with in SA1. One of their biggest mistakes they've ever made. Look at what it's done to the franchise and the fanbase. You have retards like that buy Sonic games for the PLOT. Sonic's gameplay could be literally nothing but a string of QTEs in between cutscenes and they wouldn't give a shit as long as [Literally The Who] is characterized properly. You know, the REAL issues. Look, what I'm getting at is that Sonic Team created countless fans who have their priorities completely backwards by setting the precedent that Sonic games could have a big dumb story, and that the franchise would've been infinitely better off without that problem on TOP of the myriad of other issues currently plaguing Modern Sonic.

The bottom line is that the fact that we're even having this discussion is a problem unto itself. Gameplay should always come first. If someone disagrees with this then my only hope is that they're not listened to by anyone at Sonic Team. A "proper" Sonic story is the very last thing that needs to be addressed right now.

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Yeah, that's extremely odd, considering Yea Forums shits on EVERYTHING, even Smash Ultimate, the best selling Switch title. So when I see a thread with everyone saying the game is good, that sends off a red flag.

no if you prefer online. the online doesnt even works and you will never find full lobby

Honestly, fuck Sonic Team. Sonic games are usually better when their dirty incompetent hands don't the touch the game. They should've just stuck with Adventure formula and REFINED it but instead they when from Adventure to Team to 3rd Person Shooter and back to Adventure but worse. All those different playstyles fragmented the fanbase with no way to fix it. The most stable the franchise has been since Adventure is the Boost era of games where they mostly stuck to what worked and refined it up until Generations... and then regressed again in Forces and Lost World, how is that not a sign of huge incompetence on the side of the devs? Again, Fuck Sonic Team, just kill them off already and get them to work on other games because the people responsible for the design of the games don't give a shit about the franchise anymore. Hopefully Mania has taught them the right lessons but I'm not getting my hopes up on that regard.

if Cream was in the, what would her theme be?

You're a fucking idiot. Like seriously, you're a fucking moronic idiot and you need to kill yourself
I will never get why nu-males and pieces of shit like you get so offended by narrative and story focus in these games. I'm guessing your ideal game would be a boring ass piece of shit like Utopia. Just fuck off and kill yourself you double digit IQ retard.

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Remix from team rose, her stage theme from Sonic Battle, or anything from Sonic Advance 2.

Zavok's theme doesn't really belong to him, it's just the zeti theme. Vector's theme is team chaotix, which isn't his either.

Team Ultimate really needs to increase handling. Right now all it increases is speed, so if your character has terrible handling they just eat shit on a lot of turns.

thats why you only use it in places that you know will be linear for a good distance. or just hold down drift the entire time

I have been doing that, but I just think it's a bad design choice to have an "ultimate" ability that can be acquired at any time be detrimental in a lot of places. Especially since the moment you get it the AI constantly pesters you to use it right away.
>hold drift the entire time
Not good enough with power characters, unfortunately.

How is it compared to transformed? I've been feeling the itch to replay

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first sonic game i played, its pretty good but i dont understand how the weebs here literally fall inlove with the characters. they're like pokemons but theres less of them

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this game is shit. you sonic fags are delusional

The game controls about the same, outside of boosting. The boost mechanics are entirely different in this game. I personally would consider them to be worse, but some people say they prefer it.

I hate the visuals on boosting. You can barely tell its happening. I've said it before, but there should be way more visual clarity when boosting.

The lack of an audio cue is really bizarre. At least if you have vibration on it tells you.

I see, I didn't know that. I should probably buy a modern PC controller since mine doesn't vibrate.

Name other games with better writing

Amy already has team rose's theme. Also Zavok is weird cause while the Zeti do share a theme, the group has remixes that are for 2 members of the group. in TSR, Zavok uses the version for Zazz and Zonom (Mostly Zazz recently since he's in the spinoffs)

I used a trainer to get unlimited cash so I can unlock all the modifications.

>Amy already has team rose's theme
They can just make another remix of it if they wanted. Always room for tons of variations, though I doubt that'll happen since Cream isn't Amy's best friend anymore. I don't think she's even part of Team Rose anymore, even before this game.

Why would they use Team Rose's theme for Amy when she already had established themes from SA1 & SA2?

Her Heroes theme is a million times better than her SA song.

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I think he means that the games have much deeper problems than the story. Make a good game first and worry about the story later.

It's not hers. It's belongs to the entire team.

Is this gonna lead to another Adventure-styled game?
Or at least the return of Chao gardens?

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