So what has been your favorite league so far?

I just dig grinding, especially if I can have something easy to farm that lets me just zone out and watch TV shows or some shit. In Delve I just set up some great fossil routes and ran them over and over and over, bulk-selling fossils by the dozens. I also had like 30 self-found Ex over the league so that was nice.

Man the minion damage makes that so close to being a fucking crazy chaos jewel.

it was a crazy chaos jewel either way to be quite desu

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PoE just isn't fun. It's mind boggling that a game that is basically a love letter to D2 misses the mark in every single way. Everything that made D2 great is absent from PoE.

I have never made it to maps, farthest I ever got was the spider god boss. I can't get into it for some reason, think the genre isn't for me.

Yeah that sounds like a plan, I always forget to set something else up in the background. I mostly play PoE so I can make new builds or explore skill interactions. Learned a lot, just hoping Melee is buffed so I can start making cool things there too.

>Melee in PoE
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I think a lot of people have this idea that they can just like a genre if they force themselves to, and that's not always true.

But it's difficult to tell if a lot of people don't like the game because the campaign part just doesn't seem like the game they were promised, or they're not getting what the game is asking of them, or they actually just don't like the genre.

PoE has always been one of my favorite games because I enjoy the RNG, and the feeling of mowing through tons of enemies and huge onscreen explosions, and all the flashy cool shit, but also the Skinner Box of just playing the economy, making currency, and getting cool loot.

I think if more people actually saw what endgame stuff looked like, they would be more encouraged to push through the campaign and get to the real cool shit.

Literally the whole league is about overhauling melee, with shit like movement and animation cancelling, damage increases, collision based melee-damage, no more namelocking, instant movement skills that can cancel attacks, etc.

Will it be good? We'll see. But it looks like it's going to add a lot more fine control and active playing to melee builds.

>Literally the whole league is about overhauling melee, with shit like movement and animation cancelling, damage increases, collision based melee-damage, no more namelocking, instant movement skills that can cancel attacks, etc.

Most of these are in Grim Dawn. Took them a lot of time.

>Took them a lot of time.
I agree, but I'm not sure if that's meant to be a criticism of the studio or the game itself, or just a reason you're proposing to not play it and instead play Grim Dawn, which is a completely different style of ARPG that offers entirely different things.

>mfw i unironically enjoyed Synthesis

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Why not play both?

Is there anything as crazy fun as Flicker build? If not I'll just roll another one and finally try to push to Shaper/Elder shit instead of drowning in maps

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You follow a guide or just wing it? If your build isn't thought out in advance the game can kinda bog down post act 5, as stuff takes longer to kill and bosses can be a little frustrating. But on the flip side following some starter guide also detracts a lot of the feeling of making your own way so that can also hurt.

Kinda feels like the game is hard to get into since the most enjoyable part comes after you start really understanding all the mechanics and possibilities open to you, which is definitely not the first playthrough.

I do play both. I love all kinds of ARPGs, so I have both installed right now. I'm just not really into grinding in Grim Dawn, so I just play through it and then leave it for a while.

Depends how you define crazy fun. Personally, I haven't built a Flicker more than just to mess around with, so I never got into how they actually survive through big boss hits and stuff. But I had fun with the skill enough that if I can figure out how to make it survivable, I might play it in Legion.

I feel like Synthesis was a data collecting experiment to see whether players would stick around for a complex league if the loot potential was ridiculous, while rimming the trade manifesto's asshole by obscuring the mechanics used to get the good loot behind excel spreadsheets. I refuse to believe those crazy mega movement speed onslaught boots would've been a permanent staple in future leagues.

Started with synthesis, and I just can't grasp the appeal. The many builds and skills are cool enough, but the actual gameplay turns into something grindy and mindless. If you're into flipping items and making profit, I'm sure it's cool, but from a gameplay perspective it's just dull imo

>but the actual gameplay turns into something grindy and mindless
The company is called Grinding Gear Games.

It was maybe the worst possible league to start with user. It wasn't just you that didn't understand the appeal. A big appeal of the game is definitely getting sick loot up front. For me, it's all about getting bargain deals on equipment I want.

>So what has been your favorite league so far?
Delve. Been playing since beta and Delve is by far the best league this game's ever had imo.

>What are you playing in Legion?
Dunno. I'll look for something off-meta, theorycraft it, build it, then watch as Mathil steals my idea again. It happens to me a fair bit.

>Did you make any cool items or profit in Synthesis?
Not Synthesis because it bored me too much and I quit early, but I made like 5 mirrors crafting in Betrayal. Fossil crafting is F U N

onslaught
the only joy in this game was in watching akira lose three shav's in one league

delve was an ok add after they fixed the bugs
added mob scaling making it more interesting than grinding maps

What was so bad about Synthesis? I thought it was their attempt at doing Delve better

If that was their goal they fucked up real bad

Fair enough
Not saying it isn't a good game for what it offers
I guess I wanted to treat it like your run of the mill rpg, enjoying a build up of power and sure, the loot too. Maybe you're right about the league though, I hated diving into old man Jenkins' memories. The aspect of making my own build was also lost to me, due to many people advising me to follow a starter build instead of winging it.

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whats on your mind user

the entire mechanic is shit
fucking stupid pipe minigame piece of trash
glad you are still hanging in there sadposter

>league looks interesting and endgame mapping looks fun
>just going to farm lab for the 6th league in a row and never touch 75% of the game
I don't know what elder is and I probably never will

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just quit this game it's become a giant clown shoe
every instance you go into now is you going into one or more sub-instances and the betrayal shit is the worst thing they've ever added to the game, which is saying a lot

no u

>I guess I wanted to treat it like your run of the mill rpg,
It certainly isn't that. As I mentioned before, I think a lot of people who approach it like that get lost in the idea that the campaign & leveling is the game, when really it's not. In fact, if you put any time into the game and end up completing Zana's questline and killing Uber Elder, you'll find that the actual leveling process and campaign is just a small chunk of your overall playtime. Things open up so much in endgame, from mapping and Zana's Atlas questline, to league content and bosses, to crafting and trying to hit 100, to league challenges, etc. that leveling is just kind of irrelevant. Hell, by level 65ish when you finish Act 10 Kitava, your build should really just start working in it's full form and you can begin pushing the limits of what it can do.

As for builds, guides for simple starter builds are usually useful because the act of building and failing and starting over is one that a lot of people don't really like, but you're certainly welcome to try if you don't hate the leveling process. It's just that there are generally builds, skill combos, and tons of ways to gimp a character that will make you have a not-fun or hard or even impossible time as the game progresses that will hamper your enjoyment. So skipping that step and actually getting an understanding of how other people play the game smoothly and without such hurdles can help keep you enjoying things through to late game stuff.

i don't intend to play this shit ever again

>>just going to farm lab for the 6th league in a row and never touch 75% of the game

Why tho? If you have a Lab farmer, why not just do maps?

Grim Dawn was fun for like 30 hours. I have 500 hours in PoE. They're totally different beasts, Grim Dawn reminds me of Torchlight and D3: Pretty much just solo self found only.

I only play solo in PoE as well but it has probably the best economy in any game ever and trading is important even if you don't play in groups. Hell I've barely even stepped out of minion builds and I've rolled like 20 different characters because there are so many different build options. In D3 for a minion build there's MAYBE 3 different builds and each build has pretty much one gear set that is optimal. It's not even a competition on which game is the king of Diablo Clones.

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Why do you only farm lab? Can't your build handle maps?

It's a shame that trading for small shit is so fucking unbearable because the economy really is important. Only fucking game where trade bots are actually appreciated

what sub instances are you talking about, abyss maps? you have a chance to hit jackpot there if the boss drops a good loot

If you can farm labs then you can do maps easily I don't understand what you're trying to say user. Granted a very large portion of the player base never reaches the true end game (T16 maps and shaper) but you can still make it very far into it without a whole lot of effort.

Webm unrelated.

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lab is too comfy. Whenever I'm mapping I just wish I was labbing

damn i hate niggers too

are you talking about uber lab? I never really farmed that do you get rich there?

dat kung lao brutality

Not that user but yes, you can make good currency off Uber Lab depending on your luck and what you choose to enchant. It's pretty popular though so the enchant prices have dropped over time. I could be wrong about this since I haven't focused on farming it in a long time.

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It was breach, but I have never loved the game despite playing more than 1k hours. The animation locks always annoyed me, good loot drop rates are abysmal, nothing in game approaches the elegance of d2 rune words and as an autismo the trading scene is about as delightful as influenza.
I am pretty hyped for the melee rework, but also won't be shocked if it still doesn't entirely float my boat. Fingers crossed.

>I never really farmed that do you get rich there?
It used to be more profitable than it is now, because the stuff you got could still be sold. But now it's less so though you can get some currency out of it, leveled gems, and possibly score some valuable helmet enchants to sell for big cash.

Some people who don't mind running it farm early league since it can be a way to pile up things people will pay good money for, but it loses it's profit margins quickly as the community hits maps and such.

I died at the same time as uber elder and missed out on an eye so I'm taking a break again

rektarino

>and missed out on an eye
It's not like it would have been good tho.

it would have been another purity of whatever or vit/determination anyway but I just wanted to build up my collection

I'll give you one of my shitty ones next time

>play SSF every time
>get bored by not getting the maps I need by myself
>quit
I've played like 8 leagues and haven't done anything endgame-related yet.

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>The animation locks always annoyed me

Well that's at least one thing that they're supposed to fix with this patch.

So just quit playing SSF. Trading is so important in this game if you want to properly gear your character and roll multiple characters per league.

play standard so you can chill and take your time
if it's ssf it doesn't matter at all

So don't play SSF. You can still not group with people outside SSF, and just play solo.

This is good advice. I tried standard as a normal player thinking it would take off some of the stress as a new player and found out very quickly it's actually much harder that way. But if you're playing SSF there are basically no drawbacks except you don't get the latest content.

my favorite league was incursion with breach not so far behind

i'm not sure what I want to play in legion, i've been going ssf and trying to make my own builds the past few leagues.

didn't really like synthesis so I stopped super quickly after getting to maps desu

Dropped synthesis hard and never touched it again
This league tough, I’m ready to play CYCLONE BABYYYYYY
Put a bunch of cast when channeling gems on it and I’m good to go

I play casually and still end up with ~2000c in currency by the time I get bored each league. It's more consistantly profitable than mapping

yeah you get the new content 3 months offset (unless it doesn't immediately go core)
I do it just because I like the feeling of crafting my own stuff and don't have a lot of time to play consistently even though it was pretty shit before fossils and stronger bench options
map sustain isn't really an issue either (these days I do nonstop uber elder and supplement my maps with delve cities and level 83 temples)

fav league was betrayal

might try a coc trickster in legion

synthesis sucked dick