What went wrong?

What went wrong?

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>Fortnite which is your biggest competitor releases weekly patches and adds a lot of stuff into the game all the time
>you try and compete with this by releasing a game and then doing nothing with it

No sexy female characters.

>casual fotm loses interest
>casual fotm that requires you to git gud, even if it is just a basic fps
>in b4 faggots saying other random bullshit thats not that

Being humane to your employees is more important.

video games are passing fads nowadays
imagine liking a game for more than a year

big facts right there

Are they going broke?

>Devs working at Fortnite will keep their jobs and get even higher wages because of their success
>Devs working at Apex will be fired because it's a dead game now
Yeah that clearly worked out well.

Shallow gameplay, ugly characters

There's plenty of motivated workers ready to take over for the pussies that can't do their jobs.

I don't think being the dev to a dead game pays well, user.

Streamers moved into classic wow. Zoomers stopped playing and thank God for that. My games are finally decent again.

Engineers who make 3x as much as average white collar workers should get the same work life balance they do, wahhhhhhh

The only thing that maintains a big playerbase for longer than a few months is constant "content" updates the likes of which a sweatshop-tier large team can pump out constantly, like Fortnite or League of Legends. If the game is not constantly running on the illusion of a game that is constantly expanding (with meaningless cosmetics and deliberate 'balance' patches that fuck said balance), then the overwhelming majority of easily bored players go looking for another carrot on a stick.

The thing that maintained playerbases to a game in the past were mods, community content and custom modes/settings. Virtually no games have that nowadays, but those that DO are unsurprisingly the ones that stand the test of time. Modern devs have been burdened with the task of generating the extra content that players loved to do themselves for free, for fun, because there's a revenue stream there. Not even the biggest teams can match the amount of content output as the whole of their base.

The last thing they did was release Octane. After a few matches, you pretty much see all there is to see, so it got stale pretty quick. I dont even think they plan on doing anything else until the season is over

Boomers don't have the attention span to stick with a flavor of the month for more than a literal month. Zoomers don't have the attention span to stick with something that doesn't have constant shiney new updates.

Ea is fucking incompetent. Even if they do get an occasional wonder hit like that they literally do nothing with it and allow it to slowly die. Completely out of touch with the industry, its like they arent in a very volatile and modern entertainment industry but making cardboard boxes, toilet paper or some shit and think that as long as they invest enough money into a new factory and all the logistics it will turn a profit and will continue to do so for years without any touchups. Literally why do they bother with something like games at this point? Just invest into more traditional industries if you are too lazy to even lift a finger to support your hits that just fall into your lap. Wasting talent and money at this point.

garbage ass store/economy

costs way too much to get any legendarys either through crafting or lootboxes or the store itself, can't break down skins etc. for crafting material

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>Devs working at Fortnite will keep their jobs and get even higher wages because of their success
You can't possibly be this naive.

3 things.

1. Economy blows
2. Nothing was worth getting. All palette swaps. Boring as fuck.
3. Noone in that game was minutely attractive. Believe it or not sex sells.

If your game lacks any of these usually the gameplay needs to be top notch. BR is not top notch gameplay.

Here's a hot take. When the game exploded in popularity and far exceeded their expectations; they could've hired more people for their crew to maintain their new golden egg cash cow.
Even if it was flippant and only lasted a month, they can lay off all the new hires later anyway.
Literally who the fuck was in charge?
Does Respawn basically telling everyone they don't give a fuck about this game and expected it to be DoA bode well for their single player Star Wars game or ill?
Lol maybe they drove apex into the ground because they were busy making that game good? unlikely

As long as they have FIFA, Madden and Battlefield, it is literally impossible for them to fail. They just continue to act as a blight on the industry and they always will until we're all dead.

>make game where money comes from people buying skins
>make ugly characters and lazy skins

>actually buying skins
I want retarded children to get off this fucking board.

fpbp spbp

>no FUCKING UPDATES
>meanwhile fortnite got another avenger crossover, john wick, a michael jordan collab in the same period between the last apex legends update
jesus fucking christ.

Fortnite literally sellls skins for 2000 VBucks around $20

they are actual skins though and not cosmetic color swaps.
are gun skins also 18+ dollars?

The Titanfall-franchise died for this piece of junk. I will never not be mad.

>Make a game that blows up hugely
>add 1 (one) gun and character
>Make a battlepass full of shit skins and titles or whatever
>do nothing else
Gee I wonder why
The whole team is probably making the star was game now anyway

They said theyre gonna leave actual content to seasonal updates, next update is in june. Expect one new gun, legend,some map changes and skins.

Man, I really miss those day trying out a shitload of HL1 mods.

Hardly any updates, trash tier season pass that was completely rushed and feels extreme unrewarding, close to 0 communication from the developers.

I don't know how the fuck Respawn/EA fucked up THIS bad with such a hit game.

this
also no cool white male characters

FUCK FORTNITE
FUCK EPIC GAMES
FUCK EPIC GAMES STORE
AND FUCK TIM SWEENEY

Not necessarily. If Respawn's Star Wars game does well they might do TF3.

>>Make a game that blows up hugely
fake news. the game lost all popularity the moment the checks stopped being send to streamers
it literally was just 100% bought

it's been like 3 months and we know next to nothing, fuck off.

And thats a good thing!

They haven't released anything in 2 months, why wouldn't it drop? Do people need someone to tell them that water is wet too?

>Apex Legends gets no updates
>Anthems gets no updates

face it, both games are pretty much abandonded with maybe a skeleton crew left.

They paid streamers to play it then claim it is popular.

Friendly reminder that the Respawn CEO promised that the Star Wars game they are developing wouldn't take away any resources from Apex Legends.

Now we haven't seen any content updates for 2 months and it took them 1 whole month to patch out extremely simple bugs.

literally no updates or meaningful content

Sure thing pal, and twitch views always reflect a games popularity

>Skins being boring and lame as fuck
>Characters personality and design are bland and unattractive
>Battlepass is a big waste
>Only one gamemode
>NO FUCKING U P D A T E S
Geez I wonder

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Nothing? It's a better game than Fortnite by miles. It's fast paced as well so you're not sitting there for 30m for one boring match.

>still no wallrunning and double jumping

Fuck this game. Give me Titanfall 2 movement. Why is a higher skill ceiling all of a sudden a "no-no" when it comes to movement skill?

Yeah, they put all their hopes on whales and it blew up in their face. They deserve it. Instead of making a "everything in store costs a billion dollars buy lootboxes" they should have monetized it better. Idiots. I wanted to buy a lot of stuff too but not for 20 dollars and not gambling.

unfortunately most people are drooling fucking animals and actually can't handle even Apex's movement.

>tfw Dota has more frequent updates than this.

It's not fucking hard to wallrun and double jump. That's the thing I don't get. You just have more tools to use to get around. I'm mediocre at FPS and Titanfall, the wallrunning and jumping isn't even something I have to think about.

Flavor of the week.

I noticed this only recently. I'm not sure when it started. But it's true. Now days people talk about games that have only been out for two years as being "at the end of their life cycle". I played, Diablo, Guild Wars, and other games for many years before getting tired of them. I still play Skyrim, though admittedly not as much anymore. I don't know what's changed.

I like gasman but he's literally the only white male

Ah WoW syndrome has finally come to the BR genre.
Fortnite is to shit to be good, but to big to fail.

1. Woke
2. Game exploded, then they did nothing with it to improve it/keep people interested. Their biggest competition pushes out patches and updates practically weekly.
3. Horrible store, the added cosmetics sucked
4. Their version of the battle pass was a complete joke
5. Gameplay pretty bland after 10 matches

it deserved to die.

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Their retarded philosophy of "well we're not like fortnite, we will push big BIG updates every 70 days instead of little ones everyweek". That and taking MONTHS to patch the slightest retarded shit
Having played 3 months ago and playing now is exactly the same. The only thing that has come out after that has been the havoc, octane, and then little bug fixes here and there (some of them created even more bugs). Gibraltar and caustic should have a 10% damage resistance thanks to a buff but it's been bugged ever since they released it; still bugged nowadays
They're just retarded. People were interested and apex could've ended up being a legit alternative to fortnite
Don't even get me started on their retarded business practices that actually punish you for playing the game too much. You know they are destined to be doomed if making a new account is more benefital to the player than buying their battle pass (which is one of the most retarded seasonal passes I've ever seen in a videogame)

They weren't prepared. They put everything into Anthem and BF5 and this shit was an obvious panic release to try to save their quarterly numbers. If they knew it would get so much people they would have jewed it up hardcore and they obviously missed that chance.

>still bugged nowadays
no it isn't

>Finally after months give the worst fucking characters a buff because their hitboxes are literally twice as big as everyone's, gives them 10% damage reduction
>The buff is actually horribly bugged and is in fact a nerf that makes 10% of the damage they take bleed through armor into health, creating situations where they die if that have full armor and low health.
>Was noticed within the hour by players and posted everywhere
>It takes them a full month to put a fix out for it

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I tried to play this game, I really did. But it wouldn't even load after I installed it. I kept getting an error and I gave up.

There's being humane and then there's Respawn aka not doing jack shit. I'm sorry but you don't need to overwork 50 people to add a gun and a skin to a fucking BR game. They're just incompetent.

Well they fixed it three days ago, almost a full month after
I was wrong but the other things still stand. It's a fucking BR it lives and dies by updates

>I don't know what's changed.
Games as a service and always online. As soon as you stop updating your game, retards* jump to the next big thing.

*Retards = people who spend money on loot boxes and cosmetics

Don't forget dedicated servers. A thing that no longer exists in the newest games.

>He thinks it's not because the game is stale as fuck and there's nothing to chase after
They could literally add 500 new p2020 skins and quips and sell them for 18 bucks and people would jump ship anyway because their model is all kinds of fucked up

>normie BR players dump games fast with fickle tastes(PubG)
>Titanfall's gameplay is so fucking solid people flock to it once it gets a Normie bait BR shell
>remove all the depth from Titanfall(complex movement, Titans, loadouts, etc)
>expect it to last with the audience you're targeting
>titanfall 3 died for this flash in the pan

How long before they slap Titans back in, in desperation.

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I'm still seething that they closed down Dawngate.

They never needed to go Fortnite levels of content. What they needed to do, however, is ensure regular meaningful updates. They tried this with Havoc > Octane > S1, and while the first two were cool, S1 was horrible. Add to this the fact that with every single bugfix, they introduced new extremely frustrating bugs. Add to this that it took them 2 fucking months to fix the latest bullshit, and then it turned out that, hey, they didn't even fix most of those bugs! No, somehow, they made the game even worse!

Add to that dwindling player numbers, no matchmaking, so you get matched with retards and go up against 10k kill no-lifes, and several other frustrating things (loot distribution, collision on drop, hitboxes, etc.) and you get why the game is basically killing itself.

It takes some real fucking retards to fuck up this hard, but Respawn did it. The base game is solid as fuck, but they managed to screw it up.

the differences between skins in fortnite are huge. From being a demon to a fucking banana. It works with their art style, they can do so much cosmetically. Apex has a realistic art style, they can't do nearly as much as fortnite does. All their skins are fucking recolors though, so they're not even trying at all. They should not be competing in price with fortnite skins.

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The Apex devs also have to deal with people needing to be able to tell their characters apart, and they want the game to have completely on-model hitboxes. Maybe the hitbox thing will change since it's a constant source of complaints from people nowadays.

>Noone in that game was minutely attractive. Believe it or not sex sells

Vidya games are popular escapism for power fantasies not sexual fantasies. Attractive females are not a requirement for a game to be successful. And the kind of degenerate you're thinking of catering to (anime loving discord trannies) are somewhat niche.

GET WOKE

Then why do waifu gatcha games literally rake on money? Checkmate retard.

People hate Fortnite so much that they immediately crowned Apex Legends as the best battle royal but for the wrong reasons.
This is like how everyone was sucking Battlefield's dick in the early 2010s because they want it to replace COD which was all people talked about at the time.

>Vidya games are popular escapism for power fantasies not sexual fantasies
Why can it not be both? Only you believe this. It helps a fuckton. Look at all the free advertisement overwatch gets via porn. I can guarentee you the game would not be as popular if every character looked revolting.

They went up against a juggernaut like fortnite with no real gameplan. There has been two things added to the game since release and the battlepass was complete garbage. I still play and enjoy it though

>almost killed Fortnite
>suicides by having ugly characters, overpriced skins, greedy micro transactions and lootboxes, shit battlepasses, pisspoor update schedule with no new gameplay changes and more

Apex Legends can be used as evidence on how if you manage to get something really big, you need to quickly drop everything you have to support it. Fortnite killed PUBG because Epic dropped every project they had and moved them all into Fortnite which resulted in Fortnite killing PUBG, Apex legends could have done the same but respawn never did anything to the massive popularity it had for a month or so.

for me it's the fact that nobody is playing it

I was having fun and liked it

Sex sells to a point, sure it brings in the weebs and basement dwelling trannies who are so far gone they're sexually attracted to cartoons. But it pushes away normies.
Is fortnite number 1 because of its fucking sex appeal? No.

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>>almost killed Fortnite
????

Devs at Fortnite will be fired anyway.

don't forget
>yearly releases (cod, ac etc)
>a lot of games being generic and forgettable, no matter how casual friendly they are
>a lot of casuals simply not liking games as much as actual video game nerds
>video games never getting as much respect from its own publishers, audiences or media like other mediums
>the fact that "flavor of the month"/"consume them drop" behavior is already a staple of "gamer/geek" culture because

This, they probably have a line of unpaid interns there already

When it came out Fortnite revenue dropped, streamers all moved to it, social media was abuzz with love for the game.
Then they blew it.

No, they made 100m and now made a quarter million. No matter what they do at this point the game is more profitable than anything else they done

>because of its sex appeal
they "have" that, and their aesthetics are arguably one of the biggest reasons for success

They didn't even lose any players playing Fortnite at all.
Just because EA literally paid streamers to play the game and paid of journalist to talk about the game does not mean the other game is "dead"

EA only paid streamers for a day to do it, then they streamed it on their own volition because the game was fun.

It was soulless

In fortnite? The most expensive wrap added so far was like 8$ and it was animated. Others are 5$ and 3$

Good, we want our sequel

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so their designer was dumb for having hitboxes different

Season 1 has been going on a bit long, and all of its skins look like shit.

games as a service is one thing for multiplayer-focused/only titles as updates are never a bad thing unless they break the game or make it worse, but god am I tired of all the jap singleplayer games that practice "games as service" as DLC updates until the next sequel comes out

>Releases game with novelty features
>Said novelty features gets stolen in a week
>Take a month and half to deliver a pathetic update
>Main competitor already stole all your good ideas and also released a new season with lots of content zoomers want

It didn't have the necessary to compete against Tim Sweeney predatory tactics

Shroud was paid over a million dollars to keep going

they aren't adding new shit.

>People actually thought this wasn't just a fad
>People actually thought it'd be the next fortnite
>Didn't even last as long as Overwatch

lol

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Nothing will kill Fortnite except for Epic, it's WoW tier for the BR genre.

Streamers will continue to play Fortnite even if they hate it because there's millions of dollars in it through the support a creator program, and the massive amounts of money that they dump into the tournaments. Before this recent Fortnite season there were tons of streamers complaining about the game all the time, but they never stopped playing it. I don't know if this new season made things better or if they're still complaining while playing it all day.

Look up fucking pornhub trends lol. People are totally not interested in searching for fortnite porn or anything. Ridiculous amount of sfm porn with overwatch characters is not even worth mentioning.
>Sex pushes away normies
>Vidya games are popular escapism for power fantasies not sexual fantasies.
Those are such fucking outlandish assertions that I'm really curious what do you have to back them up.

>Streamers will continue to play Fortnite even if they hate it because there's millions of dollars in it through the support a creator program, and the massive amounts of money that they dump into the tournaments. Before this recent Fortnite season there were tons of streamers complaining about the game all the time, but they never stopped playing it. I don't know if this new season made things better or if they're still complaining while playing it all day.

This is the best part, Reddit and steamers seethe and are mad as fuck over the changes Epic makes to the game while the actual playerbase likes it.
Meanwhile if you look at games like PuBG and APEX the devs do everything in their power to cater streamers.

>Before this recent Fortnite season there were tons of streamers complaining about the game all the time, but they never stopped playing it.
because PUBG doesn't make the revenue it used to and there's basically nothing able to be streamed quite as efficiently and for profit as Fortnite, besides League and GTA5

I am not aware of any game that succeeded from catering to e-sports/streamers first and just having a fun game second

>Overwatch
>Heroes of Newerth
>HoTS
>Practically most of the indie survival genre games

Apex devs cater to no one. Sweaty streamers have their own set of frustrations, casual players have another, meanwhile they spend like a month fixing about 30% of bugs that have been in game since day 1 and introduce new bugs in process.

Ugly brown faggot characters

I want to be impregnated by a black boi

Those motherfuckers banned me for absolutely no reason
I was getting hype for the season pass, I bought it the day it came, played the whole day for 10 hours straight and next day I was permanently banned allegedly for "cheating"
I tried to inquire from EA what the fuck was going on and I kept getting the same copy-paste automated response for +3 times in a row
It's fucking ridiculous that they don't disclose any information about the ban, they just tell you "you cheated, you're banned, that's it" because I absolutely never cheated on the game.
EA's support is also a fucking joke with their robot answers, I want to have a fucking phone number where I can call and settle this thing among the people working at EA, because now I've been robbed from my account that I spent so much money and time on, all gone in a snap of a finger and there's no way to contact EA and get further information and not even a chance to prove that I have not cheated on the game.

No wonder their game is dying, they're fucking removing players players from the game. There was lots of talk about them using some form of "new anti-cheat methods" to discover 3rd party programs more easily. If I get in touch with EA more personally, I really want to hear their excuse as to what got me banned, but that won't be possible unless there's some way I can actually get in contact with them, not this fucking automated bullshit.

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>Try to join in on a shit genre when your competitor is the biggest thing around right now

Apex Legends was the only Battle Royale I ever played. I played about four rounds total and then uninstalled it and Origin. Do the other big ones like Fortnite and PUBG have as stark of a weapon tier list as Apex Legends does? Some weapons seem to be so shitty it was better to just not pick them up than try to fight with them.

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Maybe I'm just out of touch with just how much baseded up zoomers are sexually attracted to vidya games.

Sexual factors may influence retainership of messed up minds. Obviously art style has an influence in drawing people in initially but I don't believe that's tied to sex

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hots had the opposite problem of apex

it was a good game with a good dev team

>it was a good game with a good dev team
No it was not, the actual gameplay was the most casual and shallow in existance. It was so boring and casual that even the most hardcore bIizzdrones got bored of it.

I got banned too, apparently easyanticheat detects if you have any offending programs on your computer which includes a lot of random shit if you pirate games before.

Imagine being such a fucking normie garbage that you search all of your porn on Pornhub
Patricians use exhentai, gelbooru, e621, rule34.xxx, rule34.paheal, lolibooru and sukebei.nyaa

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it's different weapon in each game, like in fortnite not picking up a shotgun is literally just trying to die.

>casual and shallow
only on an individual level

They probably pulled an Anthem and dragged everyone to work on the next big garbage

Apex was fucking long dead before the wow beta came. It's barely a fucking week moron.

Delete this. Fuck fortnite players

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>anthem's last twitter update was a month ago

LOL!

>THIS was supposed to be the Fortnite killer
AHAHAHAHAHA Yea Forums is wrong again

Not enough gay sex.

Sure, you can believe that.

And when your product tanks because the other guy is outworking you, you can at least go to bed at night knowing your bankrupt company instituted casual friday.

Banning literally just corporate theft.

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he's cringe as fuck

Nobody is talking about literally playing with perma erection or whatever, it's just that apex characters aren't just not sexualized, they don't even qualify as neutral on that scale. I have no idea why they decided to make a hero shooter where everyone is fucking ugly. Obviously, you can make your characters attractive in some other way (see tf2), but writing actually interesting and memorable characters in multiplayer games seems to be a lost art nowadays, so at the very least you can make them visually attractive even if their responses are the blandest shit (see overwatch).
Oh and on the topic of attractiveness, take a wild guess what character has the most fanart on apex legends (spoiler: it's the mostly normal looking weeb bait, what a surprise, who would have thought)

I still remember how Yea Forums tried to claim Apex was Valves/Steam games because it was run on source and how it BTFO Epic.

They killed themselves through there own laziness. i.e lack of update, loot boxes, poor crafting.
When (IF) they ever release a new map, they might save the game.

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This shit is just so scary to me. Never trust a woman if you never see her with her hair up.

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Love when corporations push industry problems and blame on their customers.

Dilate, xigger.

Don't forget
>people pretended that asian-goblino twin afro chick is somehow "cute"

>>Devs working at Fortnite
>Devs at Fortnite
First of all, it's Epic Games™
Secondly, I know they aren't paid shit, because Fortnite's BR mode was made by former Unreal Tournament developers in about 6 weeks, and I used to work on UT4 mods before it was completely dropped for Fortnite.

Literally only fortnite zoomers make that argument. Anyone playing videogames longer than that can come up with examples of games being updated often* without working employees to death.
*And by often I mean literally anything faster than one minor content update in several months and taking like a month to fix bugs that were reported day one and are 100% reproducable (and also leave a lot of other bugs untouched).

yes fuck them and their shit brown shit characters!!!

>it's WoW tier for the BR genre.
Let's give it some time. I am pretty sure that's PUBG. But you gotta give it time.

At least do some balance changes, that doesen't require a lot of work and is probably the games biggest problem

This is fucking retarded.

GIVE ME TITANFALL 3 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

who cares

You're a total fucking retard.

this:

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its a mystery why?

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lol apex legends sucks, eat shit shtskin beaner
and she really was a minority hire!!

>no union
>get exploited
Yea no shit

What are the big problems balance wise? Honestly asking. I don't think devs should be making balance changes simply for the sake of change in any game

>Online-only again
>More microtransactions
>Less content and features
Yeah, nah

Fuck off to your dating sim, tranny. Viewing vidya through a sexual lens is not normal.

>he thinks EA treats its employees well

Americans hates unions and love getting exploited by ((corporations))

>EA
>shit battle pass
>update droughts

>developer
>producer

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>being attracted to attractive things is not normal
whatever you say tranny

The gameplay is too bland. Titanfall would be unbelievably bland without the 2 things that take it to the next levels of fun, competition, and gameplay/skill. The titans and the free running.

I understand why the titans were removed, they'd be hard or almost impossible to 1. implement, and 2. balance. But getting rid of the free running was on such a level of incompetence it's unreal. It's what makes titanfall so inherently fun to play so much fun to come back to at any one moment; especially titanfall 2 which has improved mechanics, as well as the newer things like the grapple. Without it, it's just call of duty, and that's it. It's not deep enough of a game when there's nothing to do but shoot others while moving. And the battle royal genre doesn't work for it either because it doesn't have the instant-replayability like a TDM game does like the "bland" CoD.

The removed wallrunning because they literally said casual players wouldn't be able to keep up or handle it. Fuck em. And fuck Respawn for going that route. Apex would have been infinitely more fun, long lasting, and enjoyable with the better mechanics; which would have also separated it from the other BR games because it would be unique.

The people who play games like Fortnite aren't people who are interested in playing a lot of games, they're like WoW players or mobile gamers in that way.
Trying to sell them a new game that's just Fortnite again was obviously a pointless effort.

How did they get away with making such a racist design of a Japanese person?

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Guess we will actually get Titanfall 3. Cheers.

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this

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Reminder that it was Valve drones thinking that Apex Legends would kill Fortnite

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>battlefield v was a flop
>only thing that saves EA from disaster is apex
>anthem also flops not long after that
>and apex is flopping too
bros...

simply epic

Damn dude, seems like just yesterday every Zoomer on this board was telling me how big this game was going to be and how its momentum meant it would climb to the top. I said it would start to dip hard after a month, but you little retards laughed. Where are you little queers at now?

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Same thing will happen to WoW classic. I can't wait for all the zoomers to seethe when that game dies.

fuck you nigger give me titanfall 3

the article could've just been titled "apex legends hasn't released new content in 2 months". the way this guy did it just comes off as sensationalism, especially with that tag line. this is what's wrong with "journalism"

Get Woke...Go Broke

They are free to quit and get a real job anytime. What is the problem?

You let women and normalfags in, so be nice to them.

Ugly character design. Shit character backgrounds. I liked OW just because of the Husbands.

For starters, they released it for free.