NEVER

Funny story. I actually got into SMT thanks to catching snippets of Persona online. Then I got Devil Survivor, loved it, got more into SMT, played some Persona, and now I prefer SMT more.

>this series only got popular because of a spinoff released after like 10 games

by the time this comes out another switch homebrew entrypoint will be discovered for new model numbers and I'm going to pirate it out of spite

Friendly reminder, children lack object permanence

popularity != quality

The gameplay is a clear step up from iv, but while they fixed the smirk mechanic they introduced the partners which are broken and every other aspect of iva is so bad, especially characters, I perfer iv

Well, sweaty, quality > quantity

>Persona
>quality
Pick one.

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>uses unreal 4
Multiplat

Would you a demon, Yea Forums?

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Post dogs

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i want a pixie bodyjob so bad

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Ye

>tfw no Pixie gf
Life is suffering.

Reminder that true neutral, the balance of law, chaos, and neutral, is the true path.

Lawfags, chaosfags, and fence sitting bobofags need not apply.

Cute dog.

I am playong SJR right now.
Is there something like SMT IV where one route has specific NG+ quests/demons so it's better to save it for another run?

Every time I see this screenshot I feel the need to pray that V is sparred of such faggotry as this.

I propose a truce.

PS fags get SMT V too.
Switch Fags get Persona 5 Royale.

>PS fags get a good game
>Switch Fags get a mediocre game
How is that fair?

I'm going to buy a Switch for SMTV, but it was obvious it would take a while from the moment it was announced so there was no point in buying a Switch before a release date came along. However, I may buy one earlier than I had intended for Astral Chain.

No.

What are you, gay?

No.

I highly doubt that.

You can doubt it, but it's the truth.

>NEVER EVER
Didn't you niggers say the same shit about Persona 5 after the multiple delays and "Coming Winter 2014!" fiasco? This is simply how Atlus operates, give it a rest already with the retarded doomposting. Hell, I'd rather they take their time developing titles instead of pushing them forward as soon as possible like Gamefreak does with Pokemon.

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People will jump at any opportunity to whine, and that goes double for a good portion of SMTfags. They're not going to stop doomposting.

>Doesn't want to fuck a demon
>Gets called gay
Maybe he's attracted to actual humans, you know? Plenty of cutes like Isabeau around.

>snoy asshurt before even the release date
This is going to be one for the history books lads

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How about no?
Here's a better deal-
>Sony gets the same high school simulator a second time for 60 bucks
>Nintendo gets a new game in the super series

At this point, I don't even think SMTfags are primarily behind these posts. I've seen people from Xenoblade threads to random comments on Yea Forums saying they're waiting for SMTV. It's likely just people who are new to the series, and this will be their first game.

>wanting to fuck a monkey

I'm really tired of these retarded console wars, honestly. They reek of zoomers who can't afford two consoles, and feel the need to shitpost themselves senseless to cope.

>nobody in this thread knows about the typical announcement schedule of a major atlus game
Pathetic.

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Same here. I just wanna play SMT.

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>2025 game.
Ftfy, Atlus isn't done with milking Shitsona 5.

>SMT returns home
>Sony

is this guy actually fucking retarded

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Persona 5 and it spinoffs have nothing to do with the development of SMT5. Nobody at ATLUS is going to tell Yamai and his team to stop working because they outsourced a spinoff for Persona.

You do realize that Persona titles, and SMT titles have seperate teams, right?

How's the work on RE:Fantasy on going? :)
Totally separate teams. :)

Re:Fantasy is an entirely seperate project, but I'm pretty sure Atlus has more than one studio. Now that game, probably won't be out until 2024/2025 tops.

Post your favorite demons.

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>always pick either neutral or chaos answers so that I won't be faggy lawdrone
>play SJR and just pick what I feel is right.
>my alignment leans heavily towards law
Is this what Lucy felt like in SMT IV?

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Imagine how devalued it would end up being when the game is released

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Maybe a little late but yes, some paths have unique demons you can unlock
I remember chaos having Mastema, and I'm pretty sure neutral has an unique demon but I don't remember which one

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If you just choose what feels right in SJ you're almost guaranteed to end up Law because most of the Chaos options are just being an asshole for no reason.

what do you expect, snoyfags literally do not have brain cells.

Retard, the only reason SMTV is on UE4 is because Atlus themselves said the Persona engine is pretty bad for actual game development, it looks good, but it's horrible for developing games, chances are P6 won't use it either

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Console war fags don’t play the games they shitpost about, user.

if it's taking so long then it means they're pouring their souls into it

Based DeSu bro.

One systems plebs, I swear...

>t means they're pouring their souls into it
Sure they are.

Unironically this

>thing gets announced
>it's not here within a year
>B-BROS ITS FUCKING DEAD
Yea Forumsirgins always do this. though I do think it was an especially premature announcement this time considering they probably rushed it for the anniversary

And so SMTV will be easy to port, like Octopath.

>Atlus
>porting anything to other systems
don't make me laugh user

What are your hopes for SMTV? I’m personally hyped for more Kozuka tunes.

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DeSu 3 when

Catherine on PC, user.

Still getting it on switch since nintendo is trying hard to save the japanese industry while sony want to destroy it

SJ wasn't even good. They needed Redux to fix all its problems.

That's Sega of Europe.

I honestly don't know whether I'd want Kozuka doing some good shit on a system that doesn't have 3DS's shitty audio or if I wanted Meguro to return to his DDS/Nocturne/Trauma Center form.

that was SEGA Europe, and they couldn't even get Full Body since Atlus refused. If SEGA tried doing that with SMT or Persona, they wouldn't be allowed to get the newest game and instead would have to port an old one, like Nocturne or Persona 4 instead.

Can you mating press Pixie without killing her?

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Who cares me wants more Persona.

and that flopped HARD on PC for numerous reasons. I think Atlus knows that their audience isn't on PC, and I think SEGA knows the audience that plays PC games, and it's not people that buy Atlus shit, it's dudebros that play Yakuza.

Then play those games, dude.

Kozuka for sure. Meguro's sound is too bright and jazzy nowadays. The music of IV and IVA were some of the only redeeming factors.

Good thing you'll be playing Royal and Scramble then :^). Have fun waiting another 4 years for Persona 6.

you know that the Persona engine sucks when Atlus has to mention that they're now able to do shit like test the game as it's being made
>you can check what you made immediately on the game screen, allowing us to cut down on a lot of time working over ideas

>Meguro's music is too bright and cheery
What? He can still make great rock tunes like nobody's business.

dilate

>Ryan
Once again shitting things up.

>compose for a game that's supposed to be bright and jazzy
>comes out bright and jazzy
>woah... I guess... that's just his style now...
dumbass

When will this Jazz meme end? Persona 5's music is nothing similar to Jazz. People need to learn what music genres are.

a
Nah being chaos in SJ is basically being an abrasive dick that wants to avoid people. Even assuming you just want to be a normal guy you'll probably end on law. My biggest complaint with SJ is chaos is being a dick and neutral means flip flopping between every single choice given like your a schizo.

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honestly unless you're doing something like Capcom with the RE engine where you design the engine specifically for streamlining the development process, there really is no reason to create your own engine anymore. P5 especially made no sense to have its own engine since they are able to achieve the same things on other engines. Heck SEGA's already been using other ips for similar engines for years like how Project Diva is made in the Virtua Fighter engine and how Sakura Wars is being made in the Sonic Engine, Atlus probably could've made Persona 5 in the Catherine engine and it would've turned out almost the same.

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If they made obvious Neutral options, it would kill the difficulty in trying to reach said ending. Neutral is supposed to be hard to get, as keeping a proper balance between the ideologies is hard.

>Not giving your Pixie phys res
what are you a gurofag

Woomys are some sort of Demons too.

Semen Demons

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All things considered, Asahi was a good character. The fan service was excessive though, and I hope the plot and characters in V are more akin to pre IV titles.

I feel your pain, brother.

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Partners aren't even good. The gauge attack does shit damage and always misses. Its only useful for the removal of one boss turn. Asahi and Toki were the only good party members anyway

Take a look at all his work besides P5, retards. Just because P5 was described as "Acid Jazz" by Meguro doesn't mean that I'm only judging by P5. The music is much brighter post-PS2 than his PS2 era stuff, even compared to P3. Let's also look at the hardest hitting song in P5, Keeper of Lust. This song is the closest I think he can get to the SMT sound that he had back in the PS2 era, but it doesn't have the same kick to it, honestly. I personally think that Kozuka has a better grasp on what makes SMT's music great, just judging off of IV and IVA.

*cute goddess

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just HD release SMT3:Nocturne on switch, i dont care... fuck id take digital devil saga 1&2 at this point,

>Asahi and Toki were the only good partners, anyway
Asahi was objectively the best partner because of her wide plethora of support skills. Toki however, was trash outside of her ability to clear random encounter mobs. In boss fights, she was shit. If anything, Asahi and Isabeau were the best partners.

part of me thinks the actual reason Atlus initially went under was because they spent a shit ton of money making the Persona Engine, also probably why P5 was initially delayed.

Quit sperging. Nobody said Kozuka was a bad producer, or that he wouldn't be good for SMTV's OST either. However, I'm pretty damn sure Meguro could whip up some dark and atmospheric tracks for V if he got in the proper mood. Obviously his Persona tracks are going to sound more upbeat, as the games typically are.

Hopefully one day, user.

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>outside of her ability to clear random encounter mobs.
That's why. Asahi is for bosses, Toki is for mobs which is the majority of the game. Instant killing constant horde reinforcement spam is pretty good.

I really hope vocals make a return. I like SMT IVs OST but it's missing some quotable songs.
Give me battle themes with random lyrics and we're good.

Why are you guys arguing about whether or not Meguro is fitting to the game's atmosphere when we've seen jack shit? For all we know it's really upbeat and cheerful.

P5 was delayed for a number of reasons.
>Having to change engines to work with the PS4
>The earthquake causing Hashino to change the story concept of P5
Among other things.

>Take a look at all his work besides P5, retards.
I have dumbass. When he's composing for persoyna then no shit it is more lighthearted it's a fucking school anime vidya

>Mainline SMT
>Cheery and upbeat
>What we saw in the trailer
user.. I. Either way, Kozuka was confirmed to be working on the OST, so this discussion doesn't really matter.

The trailer starts with flower boy and his gf getting bodied by demons, dude. That said, I’m sure Meguro can whip up some atmospheric tunes if he gets in the mood.

No sperging here, amigo, but you should take a look at Catherine as well. Fantastic atmosphere and darker story than a typical Persona, almost exactly what you'd expect for an atmospheric soundtrack to appear. However, that's not what we got apart from the select few post game babel stages and the classical tracks. Obelisk is great, but how many tracks are like Obelisk in the soundtrack? Just saying that I dont think Meguro should be on mainline anymore because I don't think his current style works for it.

>For all we know it's really upbeat and cheerful
>protagonist gets ripped to shreds in the teaser

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That can change, though. Especially over a dev cycle this long.

>Majority of the game
You make it sound like hordes occurred 100% of the time or something, when honestly they didn't show up much when it mattered, like in bosses. Now in Apocalypse difficulty, she was handy since I don't think you could run from enemy encounters. Otherwise, Toki's attacks were pretty weak.

im probably going to sound like a retard but how can atlus refuse doesnt sega own them?

>Especially in a dev cycle this long
It's no longer than their usual development cycles, I don't really see the point. I doubt the game is going to go through a massive tonal change. Especially since the mainline is usually isolated and dark in tone.

>Nanashi isn't a girl

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That's what I'm basing it on, apocalypse. At least hordes showed up a lot for me.

She (male) can be

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I'm kind of neutral on this. Meguro is a good producer regardless, so I don't really care if he works on the mainline soundtrack in the future. That being said though, his style has indeed changed since the PS2 era.

Bruh.. Why didn't you say so? I thought you were basing it off of the other difficulties. Then yeah, she's in the top 3 as far as partners go for Apocalypse difficulty. I'd still say it's
>Asahi > Isabeau (Has Luster Candy) > Toki
In terms of partner ranking. The rest were bad.

I seriously don't understand how anyone can see HER as a man. As a man she would be the most boring edgy teenager I've ever seen, but as a woman she'd be a cool as fuck tomboy.

There's nothing to suggest that

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>It's no longer than their usual development cycles
That doesn't really detract from it. Plans change.

MC getting bodied doesn't even seem like that much evidence of it being dark. DeSu1 is fairly upbeat despite being a relatively fucked up game.

>Trannies
Time to dilate, right fucking now. Discord awaits.

>The earthquake causing Hashino to change the story concept of P5
Never heard this. Any details on what changed?

is it sacrilegious if I want to fuck a human sized pixie? The regular size just isn't practical

Literally how is this related to being a tranny, I just want tomboys.

You mean Phys drain.

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Now you're comparing a spinoff to the mainline, user. It's time to stop moving the goalpost. That being said, I highly doubt V is going to be anything upbeat or cheerful in terms of its tone or themes. Again, this is the mainline, the trailer is giving off heavy Nocturne vibes, and the director, Yamai said the game was going to have the atmosphere of said game.

Fair enough. I still think saying Meguro can't compose something for a game we know little about is silly.

Asashit is fucking trash outside of smirk skill.

Navarre and the monkey grill is better

Have you saw the concept art book, user? It suggests that
>Game was originally about world travel, instead of taking place in a high school in Tokyo
>Your team pulled off heists and stole treasure
It got changed because of the Earthquake that happened not too long ago in Japan, so here we are. It's a shame too. It sounded really nice.

Demikids revival when?

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*are

Please refrain from posting any more hoyboys. This is a SMTV thread.

Speaking of Devil Survivor 1, I really hope V has a steady beginning progression into the apocalypse like SMT I. You chill out in Tokyo for about an hour as a tutorial of sorts as demons start to appear, before the apocalypse tears Tokyo apart to set the tone for the rest of the game. It could be nice..

Not all of the music in P5 is bright and jazzy, he also just did the new songs for SJR which were as oppressive and militaristic as the songs from the original game. I still want Kozuka to do SMTV's soundtrack, and I believe he already is doing it, but if Meguro were to do it would probably turn out fine.

No one said he can't compose. We're just saying his current style doesn't fit mainline, and would prefer Kozuka.

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>he thinks he can stop the hee-hoyboys
ho ho ho

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Post some Jack characters.

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Redpill me on Demikids. How is it compared to the rest of the franchise?

I love Meguro's compositions, and I'm sure he could whip up a fire soundtrack for SMTV that fits the atmosphere. However, I'm pretty sure we're getting Kozuka again based on the music in the trailer, and I'd prefer him anyway honestly. IV had a great soundtrack that perfectly fit most of the events or locations in the game.

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I'm glad it changed honestly, I think some of the concept art looks cool and I hope Re:Fantasy has that sense of adventure that that game was supposed to have, but it seemed like a poor fit for Persona. I would have welcomed it if it were a different MegaTen spinoff or just something entirely original, but it's not what I would want Persona 5 to be.

Yeah I think I've heard this before. Didn't know the earthquake was what caused this development though.

>So many falseflagging toddlers trying to portray as though everyone cares about SMT
No one gives a fuck about SMT, toddlers, as long as it is a fucking dungeon crawlers and looks like a pixellated diarrhea.

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move out the way virgin frost a real jack is coming through

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Correction, console warriors don't give a fuck about quality games and should be ignored.

Shittier, since it was meant to cash in on gradeschoolers pokemon hype. Now with pokemon being what it is, it would be a nice niche filler - both the fans' and ATLUS's

I can somewhat agree with that. It's definitely a huge jump from the high school settings in prior games. Although, I'm sure we might have elements of it in P6, maybe. I could see the Metaverse, or whatever dimension allowing the Persona user crew of said game to traverse around the world somehow. It could be nice.

Console warriors do care about quality games if they can use that quality game to suck off their favorite company more.

>SMT
>dungeon crawler
There’s literally only been a handful of games that can be counted as dungeon crawlers, you stupid fuck.

>Devil Children revival with Himukai as lead artist

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Black Frost a best.

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Keep in mind Nintendudes supported Persona 5 and Nintendo even promoted it with Smash.
Meanwhile sonnyggers will do everything they can to make SMT5 fail and will shitpost about it.
Sony created an audience intended to destroy the japanese industry. Vote with your wallet and boycott this cancerous policy. Buy your japanese videogames only on Steam and Switch.

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>twitter
Stay there, Ryan

Yes they are dumbo, Persona is P team, re fantasy is whatever and SMT is another team

How many Atlus games have you bought in the past? Because this isn't the first time Atlus has announced a game before they actually started working on it, never mind the times when they were also delayed.

General rule of thumb is that if they announce a game, chances are it won't come out until several years after that initial reveal. Case in point, look towards things like Tokyo Mirage Sessions, which was pitched as being an SMTxFE game that was announced so early that they didn't have anything at all to show and just made a reveal trailer using random official art from both series (that ended up having zero relevancy to what the game ended up being). Or Persona 5, which also got stuck in delay hell.

You should have held off on buying a Switch if SMTV was the only game you wanted on it.

SMT3 release date 2003
SMT4 release date 2013
This is not a series that rushes releases out.

Who the fuck is Ryan?

Pixie is a demon, and demons are generally a lot stronger than a normal human. So yeah, probably.

>bought a Wii U for SMT x FE because it was half price
>SMT x FE turns out to be a fusion accident
>end up getting Xenoblade X instead
Cursed collaboration.

>you will never convince a Pixie to stick with you and reward it by turning it into an uberPixie just so you can fuck a Pixie without killing it

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I would always evolve my Pixie back into a High Pixie after supercharging it in the Kalpa.

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>Console warrior
>Ryan
Bad combination.

I’ve played P5 and honestly, the Switch owners aren’t missing much.

I mean, internal studios can still function pretty independently despite being owned by other companies. Plus they can hold things over them like have a big name threaten to leave or something like that if they don't get what they want. Like SEGA could say "put Persona on the XBOX and Switch" and Atlus could be like "if you make us work our dev team like that, Hashino will leave!"

Eh, honestly this. Console warriors picked the wrong game to use as bait. The only people truthfully getting offended by it, are apparently sperges on Twitter and Plebbit. Otherwise, P5 is a pretty mediocre game. I'd rather play Fire Emblem Fates, and that's saying something.

Again, who the fuck is Ryan?

Should I go normal law or redux law?

Neutral

Obviously a fucking shitposter. That's why I called you that name.

I liked the style and gameplay of P5, as well as some of the characters, but that’s honestly pretty much. It felt more style over substance at times and the absurd padding and pacing didn’t help much. I prefer the quicker pacing of the SMT games, tbqh.

My name’s not Ryan, though. And I’m not even the guy who posted that meme.

I want to save neutral for last.

Redux law is one of the best endings in the series, and the best law ending.

I wish, I already have both consoles but the reviews when SMTV comes out are gonna be filled with people comparing it to persona and wishing they got that instead. It's gonna be pure pain

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didn't that happen to SMTIV's review scores where they all bashed the game for being too dark and hated that it wasn't a fun high school simulator...

>The Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice of Persona

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I’ve seen more people complaining about it being the SMT equivalent of a Saturday morning cartooncompared to Persona fans calling it edgy

every review:
>it's like they took all the fun of persona 5 out of the picture to try and be "edgy"
>coming from the energetic and stylish persona 5, SMTV feels like a boring departure from what makes these games great
>gone are the engaging story of persona and the stylish elements the series is known for in favor of some generic light and dark story

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>most well-known entries in a meta-series about demons are the ones focused on boring anime teenager social lives with dating sim elements
I really feel like Atlus fucked up on this point. With Pokemon you can make tons of spin-offs based on Pokemon themselves. With SMT... it's all just "here are the Persona cast in a different scenario". If you removed all the Kaneko designs in favor of P3/4 esque shadows nothing would change. They're not a central appeal of the franchise, despite being the basis for it.

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I just want Nocturne to get a HD remaster that fixes the audio.

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I don't think that's how it will be, people get caught up on the SMTIV reviews, but I expect SMTV will be treated more like those DSJ reviews that called it a "Darker, more mature Persona" which is still a comparison to Persona, but it's a positive comparison, and I expect SMTV will be well received in general, it has all the makings for it in my eyes. SMT threads will go to shit though, they already go to shit when the more popular side of MegaTen comes out because it brings along both people who don't know what they're talking about and contrarians who think they're an enlightened elite because they played Nocturne, but you can at least have SMT threads where Persona isn't brought up. That's not going to happen if the popular game is a mainline SMT game though, and the most recent one with the most attention on it at that.

>you'll never catch, bind, and molest a pixie
Damn, this is suffering.

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>All my friends are still dead and I am betrayed by the very ideals that I killed them for
Being Hero is suffering

I would give a kidney and a few fingers for it, but it will never happen man. The dream is dead.

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>Unlike Persona 5 which I was able to complete with little trouble save a few dungeons, the harsh difficulty of SMTV was a huge slap in the face even when playing on easy and using a guide
>Unlike the colorful and unique settings and characters of persona 5, SMTV feels drab and colorless with bland character designs and samey environments
>The story tries way to hard to be philosophical and comes off like it was written by a 14 year old who just discovered atheism through the internet, a sharp contrast from the mostly lighthearted Persona 5 that handled dark themes with much more maturity

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The sad part is that I can honestly see this happening.

>PQ gets released, you can choose between P3 and P4, neither really gets more of a focus than the other
>PQ2 gets released, you're forced into P5, the intro is nothing but P5, P5 cast gets the majority of the lines, P5 MC is the only one who matters for fusion purposes, and on Risky P5 MC must be in your party at all times
Yeah, not even Persona 4 was this bad.

who is Ryan and why do people keep talking about him?

Yeah I like P5 and even I was disappointed by PQ2. What's the point of a crossover if 75% of the crossover cast is an afterthought?

Even capeshit did a better job.

I feel like that's just because the P3 and 4 cast already had their PQ game and so they wanted this one to focus on the cast of 5 instead. They really should have just had P2 characters instead of P3 and 4 characters instead if they didn't want another PQ game to focus on them, but obviously they wouldn't do that. I don't think P5 is going to be that much worse for milking by the time they're done with it though, it'll be as bad as P3 and 4 I'm sure, which is still a lot of milking, but I don't think it'll be much worse.

Source? Catherine Full Body uses P5's engine instead of it's original one and that didn't impact it negatively.

it came out first
This is like when people said Nocturne had Undertale mechanics

Idk why but I have suspicions that Re:Phantasy will be an ARPG.

SMTV's director said that Unreal allowed for steadier workflow because unlike the P engine, they were allowed to do things like actually test elements as they are being made.
>The game development environment has changed dramatically, and you can check what you made immediately on the game screen, allowing us to cut down on a lot of time working over ideas and trial-and-error.
gematsu.com/2017/10/shin-megami-tensei-v-will-game-sympathizes-times

meaning SMT 5 realise date is 2023

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Did people actually say this?

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>nigga frost

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GUYS, HERE ME OUT
SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI FPS

That's the issue though. Game journalists need to stop comparing the two franchises at every chance they get, when they're seperate entities. Like, no shit the two feel incredibly different. They focus on different themes.

imagine was a shit game but the reaction images made it worth it

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>planning on buying a switch for smt v and pokemon
>still haven't bought a switch yet
feels good

>The story tries way to hard to be philosophical and comes off like it was written by a 14 year old who just discovered atheism through the internet
That's true for IV though.

nintendo hire this man

Everyone needs to stop comparing them so much, it's not just game journalists that do it. There's fair reasons to like one and not like the other or to think one is good and the other isn't, but when people say things like SMT is better because you kill your friends instead of making friends they just sound retarded.

Why does Atlus keep announcing games before they start working on them?

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Ehh, given that came from 2017 and how we've had a steady amount of fuck all progression since then, I remain very skeptical of that statement.

Basically the reviewer was a casual who preferred light hearted shenanigans, and has no real experience with SMT. Yeah, figures. Most people nowadays learn about SMT through Persona, and expect it to a similar experience, so meh.

so people will hunger for information for a longer period of time

In SMTV's case I think it was done for the 25th anniversary and so they could announce it at the Switch presentation.

Jesus Christ. This is literally always how Atlus operates when developing games. They only show shit off during the tail end of development. V is nothing new, but people act like the development is being fucked over, or the game is vapor wave.

>the game is vapor wave.
One can only dream.

>started with persona 5
>get SMT4
>eh guess it’s about medieval shit
>game dropping big hints about the real world
>get to Tokyo
That’s kinda when I got hooked on SMT

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how long do you fucking think it takes to make a game? Persona 5 took like 3-4 years to come out from it's initial trailer and even then we have no idea how long it had been in development before that. its only been 2 years since the first announcement, so chances are the game will probably be out by next year or the year after. putting the development time at around 3-4 years, which is better than a lot of games

MegaTen will never get the credit it deserves for being the OG monster collecting RPG....everyone only thinks of Pokemon...........

>he’s right user well at least in the west he is

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here's the thing
smt was never popular

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>First mainline entry since Nocturne to be fully 3D, from the over world to combat, and demon models instead of sprites
>They're probably working on adding more in depth exploration to the game as well
>Everyone is freaking out and wanting them to push the game as quickly as possible
This isn't Pokemon. Let them do their work. We'll get gameplay or screenshots when they're ready.

I wish Pokemon would innovate more like SMT, honestly.

It actually hurts how true that is and it’s first attempt is still better than ya pokemon shit fusion and negotiations are so ahead of pokemon that it’s fucking hilarious

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He's literally the same guy who composed SJ though and even the new track for Alex sounds as though it could've been in the original game.
You don't just lose the ability to make tracks in a style you've done before user, music doesn't work that way.

Undertale fans are very dumb, user.

Fumi is a miracle of the universe. I would have rather had DeSu Q than Persona 5 Q2: featuring the Phantom Thieves from the Persona 5 series.

Fumi and joe are the best party members

>SMT was never popular
And that's a good thing. Especially on this board of all places. I'm not prepared for SMTV to suddenly bring a mass surge of people into the fandom.

>smt fan playing smt
>"this isn't persona and i'm not expecting persona"

>persona fan playing smt
>"this isn't persona and i'm not expecting persona"

>video game journalist playing smt
>"wtf this isn't persona where's the social links"

Dude, same.

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>this
Started SMT because persona was very good not because I want another persona game it’s because I wanted a good game and trusted atlus

The second comment is untrue most of the time. Especially with gaming journalists, and casuals.

>and jazzy nowadays.
That's a good thing. Where's my fucking Raidou 3

>>persona fan playing smt
>>"this isn't persona and i'm not expecting persona"
You literally couldn't be more wrong, the amount of retards that go into SMT expecting it to be more of Persona is pretty big.

SMT is popular on this board. It's probably the most popular JRPG series on here once you get passed the JRPG series that are popular in a general sense.

>Game journalists need to stop comparing the two franchises at every chance they get
people are more likely to buy into something if it reminds them of something they know. that's why people do it, and it is really annoying, but that's not gonna change.

I want to play desu 1 and 2
what am i in for?

I only played the first one, but it was alright. I'm sure the second is fine too. DeSu1 wasn't my favorite MegaTen, but it wasn't the worst.

Turn based strategy RPG, like Final Fantasy Tactics, Fire Emblem, Tactics Ogre, etc....

Cute girls, varying degrees of autistic protagonists, a doomed city with very little chance for salvation

Why keep making SMTs when Nocturne exists

based

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Death, magic dancing, bros, and anti-grav tits.

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Because Nocturne is never getting ported and I don't feel like getting out my PSN account just to play it again.

Because I like variety, user.

Devil Survivor 2 protagonist was best ever

>and anti-grav tits.
I gotta admit those were a pretty big reason as to why i'm interested especially the ones from that dead look in the eye chinese robe wearing slut

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>When continue the mainline series so people can enjoy more entries
Gee, I don't fucking know, user. Think about it.

Navarre is shit. Provides buffs and debuffs that make you cap which you don't want and all he does is waste your stones. Asahi's free smirk charge is the best support in the game.

>Got possessed by Lugh
This is why I like Devil Survivor. Wacky shenanigans like people getting possessed by deities, reincarnation plots being interesting, evangelion done right :^), the characters still retaining a sense of realism even with their anime cliches. AAAAAAAAAA DESU 3 WHEEEEEEEEEEEN

This, the only partners you should be using in the game are Asahi>Bobo>C*nny>>>>>>Hallelujah for that one Krishna fight

Endgame usefulness:
>Top tier
Asahi
>Bottom tier
Everyone else
>Worse than useless and instead actively harmful
Gaston, Nozomi

Almost every partner sucks, not that it particularly matters though. You really don't even need demons, all you need is a dimensional hourglass and your fuccboi.

Fumi a best.

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nocturne is easily the worst numbered mainline

How could anyone hate /ourguy/?

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Shut up before I kick your fucking ass, Ryan

Good taste

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try me Ryan, you fucking nocturnebab

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I play Persona 5 for the visual novel elements, i only want to feel good with my virtual friends in a comfortable atmosphere. Shin Megami Tensei, and Persona 1-2 are unappealing to me as they're too hardcore with the RPG dungeon crawling plus my beloved waifu Makoto only exist within the Persona Universe. You're free to enjoy SMT but i think i'll stick with Persona.

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How did they make DeSu characters so nice? I might actually prefer them over the more recent Persona casts, honestly.

>not within the personal universe

Was this localization or in the original script?

Nice copy pasta. I saw it in the last thread, friend. I don't know what people are going to do when Persona starts being more gameplay heavy. As of now, it's like
> 70% VN
> 30% Gameplay

>copy pasta
newfag

Why don't the people who think like this just play a real galge instead of a game where the "dating" side content has no real impact on the story and basically doesn't change the way characters act at all?

But how can you like P3 and 4 when Makoto Niijima isn't in those games?

Gentlemen, I want to get into SMT.
/smtg/ says to start with DDS, friends of mine recommend starting with Nocture, and I fear being overwhelmed.

The Fate System actually contributes towards whether or not they actually follow your lead and actually change up party dynamics. And Atsuro is the greatest bro ever.

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Persona isn't going to be gameplay heavy any time soon.

...

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The VN parts are part of the gameplay.

I don't believe anybody who harps on the dating sim part of Persona actually plays it for that, even if they think they do. It's far too shallow to actually satisfy anyone who's playing the game just for that and is just an extension of a different system in the game.

Not that user, but pic related is canon

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Based Ryan, still coping

play SMT IV. It's not the best SMT but it is the best entrypoint. whoever said start with DDS in /smtg/ is a fag because you'll be missing out on one some of the sells of SMT: demon collecting and fusion

It's not really hard to get into these games.
IV and Nocturne are good if you want to get into mainline games
DDS is fine as it has a lot of the core/frequent mechanics except demon fusing and plays similarly to the mainline games.
Really it's what's convenient to you.

Let's hope the next game has no gameplay and old-looking demon designs by Kaneko.
Soejima should just give everything the same pseudo-humanoid torso design.

I only played the first one, but I found the cast pretty forgettable. I didn't dislike them, but I wasn't really fond of any of them either. Amane, Honda and Naoya were the most memorable, but they still make too great an impression.

>The story parts are part of the actual gameplay
Hardly. Social Links give you new skills and Persona's to blast through dungeons with, but that's about it.

>posts a meme from nocturne
this is why nobody takes you cunts seriously

>not liking Atsubro

Don't start with DDS, DDS is gay.

based and tyronepilled

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Because the 4/5 are pure shit. 3 was the last good one.

>he can't tell I'm joking
and it's not even from nocturne, it's jack frost's solar data from DDS

The cutscenes aren't, but the S. Links/Confidants are. I think it's dishonest to act like they're not part of the gameplay when the whole novelty of the games structure is the flow between the dungeon crawling sections and the daily life sections.

What makes Strange Journey the best SMT game?

This, except I don't like SMT. People always praise the gameplay, but it's utterly brain dead.
>Buff/Debuff, repeat, win
>Critical hit, get more press turns, win
>Boost your agility, abuse weaknesses, win
The games aren't even remotely hard, or enjoyable. The dungeon crawling is especially overhyped. It's damn near babby's first Portal simulator with how much they abuse teleportation puzzles and nothing else. The story comes off as overly pretentious about religion and philosophy, but the characters nor the actual games take them self seriously. I'd much rather be playing a Persona game that doesn't force itself to not look like an ironic weeb game.

>Not Scathach
That was your first mistake

Nothing. It's not the best

Well-made dungeons that can be both difficult but rewarding to explore.

No, I thought he was pretty forgettable. People praise him because he sticks with you no matter what, but I don't like that, I'd rather he have ideals that he sticks to and circumstances where he can't accept what you're doing and won't follow you. Instead he just defaults to your choice no matter what, which I find kind of boring, especially when your choice can involve murdering people and he just acquiesces to it.

that's a loaded question, but the answer is pic related

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Yet still better than Persona which is complete shit
>Persona game that doesn't force itself to not look like an ironic weeb game.
P5 is THE ironic weeb game

>3 was the only good Persona
When are people going to shut the fuck up about this? The characters barely develop outside of specific intervals, Tartarus is shit, and the Tactics system is borderline artificial difficulty. You need to fucking cope Ryan.

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lol

rent free

Eridanus

>he doesn’t want a bro that helps you out no matter what
And people don’t just like him for that, user.
>actively contributes to the plot and is generally helpful
>is the reason you’re actually able to survive for most of the game
>likeable nerd
>punches demons to death and is a total beast when equipped with the right STR skills

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>"BAAAAW RENT FREE I DONT HAVE AN ARGUMENT"
Persona 3 is shit. Fuck you.

Unironically the DEMONICA armor.

It should return in V, preferably not as cosmetic DLC.

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When was that stated you fucking retard? Kill yourself Mike
>The characters barely develop outside of specific intervals
Completely wrong and that's literalt lie
>Tartarus is shit
And the dungeons in 5 are good? Yeah no
>Tactics system is borderline artificial difficulty
Git gud

>seething this bad

You have no explanation for your claim, as expected of coping SMTfags.

I wish people didn't crank their autism up to the nth degree at the mere mention of Persona. Almost any other MegaTen game people can acknowledge its flaws and its strengths and accept why some might like it and some might not without having a bitchfit over it, but when it comes to Persona it's just it's total dogshit and you're retarded if you think otherwise or it's perfect and you're retarded if you think otherwise. What's even worse is the only reason I can see for any of this is because its popular, as if that matters at all.

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>smt thread
>faggots shitpost about purse owner

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What explanation? If you play any Persona you know they are shit. Keep seething about it. One More is literally casualized press turn and the writing is pure dogshit

I hate this fucking meme. Anyone who isn't retarded can scroll up and clearly see that as usual it's the persoyboys who start the shitflinging with the same tired memes, non-arguments and samefaggotry
Kill yourself Ryan

People are bitter that Atlus pushes Persona endlessly while it's a SMT spinoff, and yet actual SMT gets sidelined. Persona fans get overly defensive as a result.

If you're talking about the autist who is sperging out right now, ignore him. Either way, people don't dislike Persona, they hate Personafags. I might find the gameplay mediocre compared to SMT, but I still play them regardless and have fun. Why metapost on something that'll only get worse as the series increases in popularity?

What do I need to buy for homebrewing a 3ds to play SMT?

P5 was a mistake for bringing all these retards in here

Multiple factors play into this phenomenon

meanwhile

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Well....I mean it's kinda Atlus' own fault. If they still made SMT spinfoffs other than Persona (and gave more updates on upcoming main SMT games) people wouldn't be as hostile........

I know people don't just like him for that, but that's a big point in his favor for a lot of people and it's not something I liked about him. I don't find his personality particularly likeable or charming, and I don't tend to get too caught up on how much a character contributes to moving the plot along, I understand why some do and sometimes it's a good thing, but him contributing to the plot isn't really the kind of thing that would make him memorable to me. I also didn't find him useful, but that's my own fault, I built the characters in DeSu like shit. I don't dislike him, I'm just not very fond of him either, I could take him or leave him.

hello me

Eridanus was honestly really easy, just take notes. Grus and Horo were more annoying and required more backtracking.

Its been in every single SMT since it was made. IV; Final, and of course Redux.

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You forgot the part in P5 where they will straight up tell you the solution to the """"""""""""""""puzzle"""""""""""""""

>I built the characters in DeSu like shit
Should’ve went for magic, bro.

>megaten game with the best dungeons was the one build in an EO engine
Didn't one of the designers ended up working on TMS/#FE? Was that game decent dungeon wise

I know about the Ryanposter, but it's not like this kind of thing only started recently, granted, SMT threads were good in the past month or so before the Ryanposting started, but in general this kind of thing has always happened to varying degrees. I'm just posting about it because it's annoying to see and I worry it'll only get worse if SMTV gets popular, and I think it will.

Then what's the best one?

FUCK YOU RYAN DONT TALK BACK TO ME, PERSONA 3 IS LITERAL DOGSHIT. PERSONA 5 PUT ACTUAL DUNGEONS IN THE SERIES AND REVAMPED THE GAMEPLAY

#FE is second peak MegaTen

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I mean return as an armor that you, the hero, can equip and see yourself wearing it on the map.

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I know, but I never go magic on my protagonist in MegaTen games and I usually get away with it just fine, DeSu and DDS were the only games where it felt like it really held me back. I was fine in IV even, despite how shit magic is there.

Probably Nocturne. In terms of just overall quality.

That's not SMT so it can't be the best SMT.

This is what you need to understand. Why would a company make spinoffs that would be far more niche, for an already niche series? Not only is that a waste of resources, time, and money, but they could easily do the same with Persona and make actual cash since it's more marketable. People think Atlus hates SMT or something, but that's false. They're only doing what makes them money to keep the company afloat. As long as I'm getting quality mainline titles, I'm content. I'd be happy with more spin offs too, but it's not happening at the moment.

Based #FE deserved way more attention shame it released on WiiU and wasn't advertised properly

Wurld of STR is still good in DDS, but it takes a while to get rolling. Wurld of STR in vanilla DeSu is the pinnacle of suffering and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Holy fuck I was miserable the entire time.

that's not how it works at all lmao

Shitposters will shitpost, what else is new? It'll only get worse as the series increases in popularity

if you're talking mainline then it's either 3 or 2

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I'd an Alice and a Pixie. Not exactly a demon but I'd also a Lady of the Fount.

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getting neutral in SJ is really fucking easy though, probably one of the easiest neutral endings to get because you get a constant read on what your alignment is. SMT IV is the most headass neutral route ever.

ATLUS still aren't bad for keeping niche series afloat anyway. Whenever I see people act like they're going to cancel SMT because there's no point in it when Persona is more popular I just wonder why on Earth they think they're still making EO games. Granted, EO re-uses a lot of assets and probably isn't the most taxing series to make games in, but they still keep it around, and as long as they would keep it around I never understood how people thought they would ditch SMT. I also haven't been keeping up with how they're going to handle EO without the DS though, so this comparison might not be as relevant as it used to be.

1 is better than 2 though. It doesn't have dumb road blocks and hours of boring backtracking.

>EO
Only has 2 million lifetime sales total out of all the games.

Stand alone yes
But everyone was pissed it wasn’t a tactical, demon fusing JRPG and instead was idol shit

SMT IV doesn't have a neutral route. It only has Law, Chaos, White, and Little Errand Bitchboy routes.

God I want to die for Alice.

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>demons can't level up
no thanks

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Oh you sweet naive summer child

I know, and they still kept making them.

They can't level in 2 either dumbass

VISUALS NOVELS AND SHIT I'LL BE HERE FIGHTING ANGELS IN THE NAME OF CHAOS WHILE YOU CLING TO MAKOTO CAN YOU EVEN TAKE ON THE ARMIES OF YHVH AND FIGHT IN THE NAME OF CHAOS? I BET YOU DREAM OF HOLDING MAKOTOS HAND INSTEAD OF CLAIMING THE WORLD IN LUCIFERS OWN GLORY DO YOU EVEN DUNGEON CRAWLING?

but thats still true of all of those games

Kill yourself

That's his point moron

What copy of SMT do you have that doesn't have the Kongo(shin)kai?

Hikawa was right.

persona is flat out inferior to smt mainline games in terms of dungeon design and battle design. you know, the actual "game" part of these games.

>can't appreciate classic megaten

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it been a while but remember hating something about smt 1

>I mean return as an armor that you, the hero, can equip and see yourself wearing it on the map.
Pretty sure that is how it worked in SMTIV, bro. and it isn't exactly like you can see yourself wearing it in SJ

I actually got into it in like 2012 because I looked into where the Featuring Dante thing came from

Why is Jack so based?

Ok!

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I think I prefer P5's dungeons to IV:A's, not that either have masterful dungeons, but I was really unimpressed by IV:A's, Cosmic Egg and YHVH's Universe were the only ones that were at all memorable. I also like the fusion in 4G and P5 more than the fusion in any SMT, though obviously IV and IV:A have more QoL in their fusion.

But the Persona spin offs sell like shit. PQ2 sold less than EO Nexus. P3 and P5 dancing bombed hard too. P4Arena is literally the only popular one. I guarantee more people will be interested in DeSu3 or Raidou 3 or something entirely new rather than Persona 5 Kart Racing

based and rogpilled

>Persona 5 Kart Racing
I'm still waiting for Persona x Bloodborne kart

I want to emotionally abuse this dog

It's almost like they had a whole game to focus on the P3/4 cast so they felt like the newcomers should get the focus this time and also cut time writing piles of alternate dialogue in a game that already has a bloated amount of text for a DRPG.

My point here is that, how long do you expect them to continue making overly niche games that barely bring in revenue? The only reason why EO gets a pass, is because they're low budget handheld games. You can't expect them to pump money into full blown projects like Raidou 3 or new spinoffs.

shut up fatty

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>barely bring in revenue?
Source?
>they're low budget handheld games
Now you're contradicting yourself
>You can't expect them to pump money into full blown projects like Raidou 3 or new spinoffs.
But the SMT spinoffs are equally low budget, Raidou for example reused the Nocturne engine and many of its assets which greatly cut costs

I don't expect that and I wasn't disagreeing with you. I just mentioned EO because it relates to what you mention about how people act like ATLUS hate SMT or don't care about it and only want to make Persona, but that they continue to make EO at all, even if it's a cheap game to make, is indicative that they don't just put all their resources into Persona and ignore all their other IPs, and as long as they're keeping the likes of EO around they're definitely going to keep the likes of SMT around.

Same, but physically and sexually too.

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Reminds me of people who bought the Playstation 3 for KH3. This is what you get for buying a console solely because of one game and not even having a release date.

How to disregard someone's opinion
>P5 has good gameplay

>how long do you expect them to continue making overly niche games that barely bring in revenue?
It's been 12 years and they've already teased the next game
Stay seething

Can't believe megaten died in 2007 bros.

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>Playstation 3 for KH3
Not for Versus XIII

Nice

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Seething about what? When did I ever say that they would abandon SMT? I was specifically talking about spinoffs. There's been less and less of them as the years go by. The last proper spinoff we've received was Devil Survivor 2 RB, which was truthfully just a port.

Hey guys, that's a pretty cute girl you got there. You wouldn't mind if I had a kiss, would you?

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How to disregard someone's opinion 2.0
>>P5 has gameplay

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>master

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Don't reply to me traitor

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??

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Bruh XD he bashed P5! He totally fits in now guys haha le based SMT Chad woo! Fuck off you utter troglodytes.

V will be a re-imagining of DDS.

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Cry more bitch.

you game fucking sucks mate sorry

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I said don't reply to me anymore you fucking faggot traitor.

calm down Ryan. all you have to do is ignore them

What the hell is this thread?

He is right that those posts, particularly the latter, were retarded, even if he expressed it poorly. There's a case to be made that P5 has bad gameplay, but it does have gameplay, that much is just a fact.

welcome to /smtg/ buddy

Is smug the greatest power known to man?

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I was truthfully just shitposting, honestly. People need to calm down though, because P5 does have gameplay. It's just flawed is all.

yes

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SOOOOOOOOON

>being so mad a shitty game was bashed
P5 is fucking garbage. Accept it already and fuck off.

>Rational, logical arguments
Reflected, absorbed, nullified
>Smug
Goes through everything

Accurate.

Alicefags, elitists, that one guy shouting the name Ryan like he schizophrenia, and your typical shitposting.

>literally make up a boogeyman to shitpost about at all times
/vg/ was a huge mistake, why would anyone talk about a game at all times?
And I have a tab of /smtg/ open all the time I regularly check.

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The White were right, smtg should have ended their cycle years ago.

>ctrl+f "Ryan"
>17 results

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More Alice

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It's /smtg/'s fault that Ryan exists to begin with. He was their issue until recently.
>t. Michael

Y'all need to learn not to feed the trolls, man. Report and hide, it's that simple.

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Who is Ryan. Explain

HE DOESNT EVEN FUCKING EXIST
STOP DERAILING MY THREAD
IM THE OP AND I WILL DELETE IT
ONE MORE GOD REJECTED
I AM THE RYAN INSIDE YOU

>IM THE OP AND I WILL DELETE IT
You're welcome to try, be my guest.

I'm about to go to /smtg/ and cuss those faggots out. The quality of our threads declined massively in the past couple weeks because of their little boogeyman. He literally has schizophrenia.

A survivor from the Schwarzwelt who shitposts in YHVH's name.

>generals for games that only come out every few years
Who the fuck thinks this shit is ever a good idea.

>Ryan
It's a character from Strange Journey. It really triggers people for some reason to call them Ryan

Tell Ryan I said hi while you're over there.

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good luck Ryan

I rather have doping than dia spamming. Fuck Asashit

>a general is responsible for a sole shitposter
Do you realize how retarded that sounds?

Is that really what this is all about?

>sole shitposter

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No matter how hard you try, you can't convince everybody for natural peace. There's a select few who run off of shitposting chaos, and that's why they come here.

>Buying consoles for games that aren't out.

Pokefag here, not buying a switch until Sword is out.

Doping, a skill that a demon can do which you only need once. As opposed to free smirks the best mechanic in the game and healing. You are a retard. Navarre is shit.

>Pokefag here
How are you holding up with your franchise, friend? Fuck Gamefreak.

>Pokefag here
I'm curious, if anything, what do you prefer about pokemon over smt?

How does it feel that your the games are shit?

>sword

How are you still a Pokefag in current year?

Praise Dilan..

#FE was the defintion of underrated

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GF making competitive shit possible to raise without hacking is what has been carrying them for me. The games haven't been fun since BW2 but breeding a competitive shiny in a fitting ball, raising it, then getting as many ribbons as possible on it while catching on TV keeps it just engaging enough.

Being able to transfer shit from game to game is the big thing Pokemon has over other monster collection games for me. I've got a Mewtwo all the way from Firered that I went full Ribbon fag on and fixed with Hyper Training.

>Wanting what will presumably be a defensive cover legendary with defensive is boring for in game play and banned from real battles anyway.

Not him, but you speak like Doping is the only skill that Navarre has. His wide array of buffs come in handy, and your MC should be equipped with a skill like Mediarahan anyway. Cope.

Do it faggot

Read the chain dipshit

Is Dilan the neutral to Ryan's chaos?

>and your MC should be a degenerate healfag
that's pretty unbased of you user

#FE is shit

The only thing shit is your taste. It's better than all of FE and most MegaTen.

I never really found breeding and going through all the work to make proper competitive mons engaging, honestly. Especially when I know people are whipping them together on PKHex in mere minutes, while I'm screwing around for hours with breeding. It's just overly tedious, you know? The competitive scene has the same set of Pokemon almost all the time anyway, like Landorus and what not, so it grew boring for me.

>One healing skill
>Degenerate
Cringe

I haven't even played competitive since gen 4, I just like collecting shit. I threw out most of my old hacks and replaced them with legit versions as they feel more satisfying to have. Breeding and shiny hunting is what I do while watching Tv/Youtube.

>>One healing skill
that's one less way to kill shit

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The reason why they originally went with their own engine is because they wanted to make their own shaders from ground up, and because of some other visual reasons.

lmao

Cope

Everytime I see that stupid face I hear the smirk sound effect

>dude let's nationalise the demons
based

>muh cope
Reminder that #FE sold like shit.

And?

It’s never getting that Switch port, dude. Or another game in the same vein.

And?

>bought a switch for SMTV and No More Heroes 3
>Nothing for SMT in years
>NMHs becomes a spin off but it was still a fantastic game

I feel the Switch will be great for years to come but its very much the waiting game

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And what?

WHO THE FUCK IS RYAN???????????????????????????????????

we've been "waiting for the switch to get good" for 2 years, user. Idk if it'll ever live up to the hype

It indeed is. It feels like most of the games that'll attract hype won't be out for the next couple years.

Are you dumb? Nevermind, don't answer that.

Seething #FE fag

Cope with the fact SMT will never have combat as close to good.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>tfw trying to find old SMT fanart websites I used to visit during high school with the Megaten Web Search
>the webring died years ago but some of the artists still have their sites and the link buttons up

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Yeah it's pretty fun. But also sad.

Incredible

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How so?

How so what?

How is it sad?

>kowashitai fags are so autistic they scare off /vg/ cucks and persoyboy shitposters
amazing

Well, they’re good for something, at least.

>no new Devil Summoner ever or a fucking in-game translation of the original
>people only think of Raidoushit
>no 6 party members ever again, just babby tier press turn or One More garbage
Epic, simply epic.

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I can fill in for one since I'm still here, just trying to fuse together Helel so I can finally get Lucifer.

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You pretend SMT has combat as good as it. Its not only funny but sad at the same time.

And it’s sad how you pretend that your idolshit game is actually worth shit.

It's okay user, maybe one day SMT will be respected.

Keep coping, kowaishitai.

Pretend? No I know. #FE is better than any SMT.

Cope with what?

>implying
youtu.be/NyB4wOn4lVM

A song changes?

Press turn has got to be the most mindnumbing shit. It makes it even more obvious how color matching the gameplay can get.

Hello me. The Switch is still a piece of shit.

>actually defending this shit
#FE fags are delusional, who would’ve thought?

At least I know you haven't played it. Have fun with shitty combat systems I guess.

It makes them feel hardcore, without it actually being hardcore.

Cant wait for the gay highschool shit.

Have fun with your garbage idolshit. I’ll be playing more SMT.